The Many Failures of 343 Industries

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  • @Slender_Man_186
    @Slender_Man_186 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    It says a lot when you’re biggest success is just a release of the previous developer’s previous successes, especially when it doesn’t even end up being as good as the originals were on their own.

    • @KangFasho
      @KangFasho  2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      And they managed to completely fuck that simple concept up for half a decade.

    • @Random_Fanatic
      @Random_Fanatic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Basically, Disney with buying everything in sight.

    • @johndodo2062
      @johndodo2062 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@KangFasho they only fixed mcc because one x was coming out and they had no games

    • @johndodo2062
      @johndodo2062 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And Microsoft

  • @VSDeluxe
    @VSDeluxe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Back when halo 4 was released I was skeptical and did expect that what they delivered at least. With Halo 5 me and my brother sad there and thought "That's all?" Played it through on day one after like 4h.

  • @thegrayyernaut
    @thegrayyernaut ปีที่แล้ว +2

    343 and Grove Street Games, two studios named after the one job they're made to do, failing at it.

  • @normal-use7628
    @normal-use7628 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Great video man, I liked the comedy of your video and how it was very factual of how 343 probably could toast a piece of bread correctly.
    However, in the end the only way I think Halo can recover from 343 is by it dying, in death Halo can find rebirth. As something I see many people not talk about is, if Halo Infinite succeeds 343's greed will also be allowed to continue. Halo's future is in turmoil if 343 wins with this game. As 343 is already showing their greed with the MCC.

    • @KangFasho
      @KangFasho  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you and I’m glad u enjoyed the vid, and that’s a great point of view that I’ve never considered. Although I don’t see Microsoft letting halo die anytime soon as it’s too much of a part of Xbox’s branding. What I can see and personally hope for is 343 getting replaced, I’m honestly shocked Microsoft has kept them around for as long as they have with how badly they’ve screwed their flagship franchise.

  • @Kampfender_Krieger
    @Kampfender_Krieger 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    TH-cam didn't send a notification, but DAMN I'm excited to watch this!!

    • @KangFasho
      @KangFasho  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for keeping an eye out for it ik that’s an issue with TH-cam. Hope you enjoy it!

  • @MarluxiaX2
    @MarluxiaX2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Bro I gotta say this now, I found you via your dkoldies video, enjoyed it. Jumped into this video after finishing Halo Infinite and can confidently say you are a very very overlooked and underrated TH-camr. You kill it! Look forward to the day when you get some serious exposure

  • @fivespade3036
    @fivespade3036 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Another amazing video! Great job

    • @KangFasho
      @KangFasho  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you I’m glad you enjoyed it!

  • @u.a.perfectace7786
    @u.a.perfectace7786 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    The foundation of Bungie's Halo games was about making a fun video game to play. Each game, even if you didn't like the changes, improved/expanded on what came before it. Hell, the game's actually innovated with community features, forge, and custom game types. Although not considered an Arena shooter by Quake fans, the game still had its roots and payed respects to genre while still doing its own thing. Halo set its own fucking trends, it didn't follow them.
    343 on the other hand, is the complete opposite of Bungie. There is no intention to make a fun video to play. The interest lies in milking the consumer through microtransactions, removal of features, half completed games that have less content than the games that came before it etc. 343 chases trends, it does not set them.
    For the record, the MCC was a mistake. The collection was too ambitious for a console that couldn't handle the intensity of porting over 4 Halo games and all of their content. It would have been far easier and better to just release Halo 2 Anniversary by itself, update the graphics/sounds, leave the gameplay/physics alone, and apply that to the MP/Campaign without touching a single thing on the maps (thus preserving the spirit and feel of the original game).

    • @KangFasho
      @KangFasho  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It sucks cause infinites base gameplay is really fun. It’s just that their ideology of trying to squeeze as much money out of players by any means necessary sucks any enjoyment out of the game. Really wish 343 would just let their talented devs do their thing and make a fun game but the higher ups need their money.

  • @abyzz1602
    @abyzz1602 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    this content is amazing. luv the video man. How you don't have more subs is beyond me. keep it up!

    • @johndodo2062
      @johndodo2062 ปีที่แล้ว

      The algorithm doesn't like the truth

  • @internethistorytrash7464
    @internethistorytrash7464 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Its very weird that Halo 4 looks better in terms of graphics and is running on 360 compared to Infinite.

    • @KangFasho
      @KangFasho  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Most likely cause infinite is in engine while 4 is pre rendered but still very impressive for a 10 year old game. Even gameplay wise 4 is nearly on par with infinite.

    • @internethistorytrash7464
      @internethistorytrash7464 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KangFasho Im 100% agree with your video, however I will give at least some credit to 343 for the halo 2 remaster, it looks amazing my favorite halo look in terms of visuals, but they drop the ball with the lack of maps. halo 1 remaster/remake whatever was terrible though.

    • @KangFasho
      @KangFasho  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree halo 2 anniversary is one of the best looking games I’ve ever seen (cutscenes specifically which you could mistake for being live action). Although even this u can’t give 343 the complete credit considering that the remaster was handled by saber interactive. And the stuff 343 did do (the gameplay changes as well as the servers etc.) where all received terribly. To this day I still don’t understand why 343 decided on changes the games maps, physics, weapons, balance, etc.

  • @johndodo2062
    @johndodo2062 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They delayed infinite because they had to. There was no choice involved. And it still released with nothing

  • @webbyoyster
    @webbyoyster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    9:45 That Halo campaign scale is criminal
    But other than that, great video

    • @KangFasho
      @KangFasho  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I was very clouded by hype with Halo Infinite, definitely would put that much lower now. But glad you enjoyed the video!

  • @Hyperiumon
    @Hyperiumon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Considering how much a cluster fuck destiny was and its sequel maybe after the 3rd game bungie had barely any gas in the tank so I doubt they could make a better fourth

    • @markfreeman4727
      @markfreeman4727 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Bungie never wanted to make halo
      they wanted to be a 'think tank' constantly coming up with new ideas and IP. When they were told to make more Halo they acted basically like children and did as little work as they can. One of there top talent even said "If i have to keep working on halo i quit!"
      when they made Destiny that same ideology was still there, so its really no suprise Destiny and bungie in general is such a cluster buck

  • @halo52744
    @halo52744 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Brilliant video Kang, keep it up and you'll get big in no time! :)

    • @KangFasho
      @KangFasho  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you enjoyed it and thank you it means a lot to hear that!

  • @johndodo2062
    @johndodo2062 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    They tricked me with infinite. Wasn't until I was done with the campaign that I realized I was tricked. They had to have paid for some of the reviews. No way is that game better than a 7 worth all the problems and everything it is missing

  • @tokindaily7103
    @tokindaily7103 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    343 is definitely killing halo.

  • @PSYCHOPATH_AT_LARGE
    @PSYCHOPATH_AT_LARGE 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Don’t forget that 343 hired developers that hated halo,to develop halo

  • @CoolDude5633554
    @CoolDude5633554 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hot take: I actually enjoyed Halo 4; Campagin, Spartan Ops (who remembers that), Multiplayer, and all.
    However, when Halo 5 released and co-op Campaign was no longer there (meaning I couldn’t play with my Dad who was sitting next to me) my 12yr old self decided to take the game and throw it in the back of his car trunk and leave it buried there, completely forgotten. Funny thing is, it worked for a good 3-4yrs. and when I unearthed it wanting to play Halo with friends, Heoric/Mythic Warzone Firefight became an instant love…
    I was the main person giving 343i some slack thinking they’d improve with Infinite while everyone else was hating them but now? I find myself after having beaten Infinite on Legendary and spending a couple months in Multiplayer (I found out on initial release that the Battle Passed costed $200 to complete) I completely uninstalled it as Halo was dead to me.
    I only wish Gears of War doesn’t follow in the same footsteps, because it’s been 6yrs. since 5 was released and though it’s great for Horde Mode, it was terrible for Multiplayer and Campaign
    Edit: Halo Infinite’s campaign made no sense when you paid REAL close attention to the dialogue and asked questions almost every sentence that was spoken.

  • @CODxxPROxx
    @CODxxPROxx 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro I have just been watching ur vjdeos while doing my workout laughing during all this one being my 3rd I was so surprised u didn't have millions of subs keep it up bro u gone make it for sure

  • @flumpdinkronk1551
    @flumpdinkronk1551 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    the AI for left 4 dead in 2006 was better than this shit

  • @koomell
    @koomell 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice vid, got my sub.

  • @Jector935
    @Jector935 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Okay first off....the intro was great as soon as you said bungie made their last halo game I got upset and 343 messed up halo when they took charge :/ shit ODST was more fun than 343 Halos..Halo is dead 🥺💔

  • @RandalReid
    @RandalReid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    And surprise, surprise hit registration is still borked on Infinite. Maybe it's desync, maybe it's something else, point is the game is still inconsistent which is basically the overall theme for Halo since 343i's incompetent hands got a hold of it.

    • @KangFasho
      @KangFasho  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They seem to be trying to push out more frequent monthly updates on the game so hopefully it’ll get fixed over time but this is shit they should’ve learned in 2012. Also I don’t think I’ve seen u on the channel before so if ur new thanks for watching I hope u enjoyed!

    • @RandalReid
      @RandalReid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@KangFasho Truth is I'm just venting on how frustrating this game is. I'm not going to hide the fact that I was actively looking for videos criticizing 343i because I enjoyed the multiplayer that I'm near 400 hours playing what is essentially a broken game. It's very good when everything is working as it should but in the same breath is equally maddening how once again 343i dropped the ball big time. I do hope they fix it, and soon, but I'm not holding my breath either. Even almost a decade in, 343i has yet to prove MS made the right decision to hand them the key to one of their marquee titles. I wouldn't be malding so much if the game is outright garbage - I would just walk away and play other games but the spattering of good things make me stay and give it countless chances.

    • @KangFasho
      @KangFasho  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I feel you, that’s the whole reason I made this and my previous halo vid cause of how frustrated I am with this company. They seem to constantly fuck up their games one way or another no matter how good and infinite was the last straw for me. I can see it becoming one of the best halos but it’s gonna take a lot of work and dedication which 343 hasn’t really proven to be able to do.

  • @Kampfender_Krieger
    @Kampfender_Krieger 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Watching you go through all the bullshit 343 has been up to these past few Halo games helped put thing into prespective for me.
    I really REALLY hoped Halo infinite would be the great comeback 343 needed to put Halo back in its rightful place at the throne of fps multiplayer, But until some massive changes in 343 take place, I'll think I'm done with the series.
    I'm not angry, just dissapointed.

    • @KangFasho
      @KangFasho  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Happy the video helped show why the community is so frustrated and fed up that’s exactly what I was setting out to do!
      As for a comeback I can see it happening and I hope it will. Infinites great at its core and I could see it becoming one of the best halo games. But LOTS of work is needed and 343 basically needs to put all hands on deck while at the same time actually listening to their frustrated community for that to happen. And even with all that I’m not sure how many people are willing to wait around for the rest of the content to be added over the course of 10 years, looking at the player count already proves that people are tired of waiting.

    • @Kampfender_Krieger
      @Kampfender_Krieger 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KangFasho A comeback like Rainbow six is possible, sure. But I'm not sure 343 can do it tbh.

  • @lewisgrant7622
    @lewisgrant7622 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bruh. Halo 4’s layout is exactly how black ops 2 looks.

  • @jimmyispromo
    @jimmyispromo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good thing I played only halo2 in 2004-2005 then life and college happened and never played halo again til earlier this year on infinite. I do like infinite though so just skipped all that mess. Jeez

    • @KangFasho
      @KangFasho  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I got into halo a little after 3’s release, maybe a year later and it was so fun back then. Never reached that same peak for me with 343’s games which is incredibly unfortunate. I agree Infinites gameplay is fun but it’s just lacking in every other aspect.

  • @NightmareKillerz
    @NightmareKillerz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Found this channel from the DKOldies video love these reviews 😂

  • @logan_jp3
    @logan_jp3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    #fire343
    They are unfathomably incompetent

  • @sami-scott4160
    @sami-scott4160 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Bungie's games have aged poorly. 2 is a bugfest and 3/Reach are barely playable in how shitty they feel to actually play
    So yeah, 343 has been far better

    • @KangFasho
      @KangFasho  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I still greatly prefer bungie over 343 imo. Although I will admit that infinites gameplay loop is fantastic and the perfect blend of new and old, if 343 can get their act together and complete the game it could easily be the best. And while the bungie games do show their age (especially ce and 2’s multiplayer) I do think they’ve still aged shockingly well (especially the campaigns) which is insane for games that are 20+ years old. But 3 is still my favorite imo, maybe it’s nostalgia but it still feels great to play to me.

    • @normal-use7628
      @normal-use7628 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is some pure stupidity you typed right there mate. Halo 2 is only a bugfest, because 343 fucked it up in the MCC, I'll give you button combos, but they're nowhere as bad as 343's issues like desync and gun jamming.
      As for Halo 3 and Reach feeling shitty to play, sorry to say man, but that's literally just you. I can agree Reach can feel awkward at times but to say Halo 4, 5, and Infinite feel better with all their issues, is ignorant to say the least. What exactly about the gameplay feels shitty? If Halo 3 and Reach is shitty to you then 343's dog shit attempts has to be literally worst than shit.
      Also to say the games aged poorly how? Halo 2 and 3 graphics maybe, but Halo 2, Reach, and 3 have graphics that can make Halo Infinite look like dog shit easily, things clipping in and out of existence doesn't help Halo Infinite either. Did the games age poorly due to their gameplay? If that's your answer that's also a claim built upon ignorance, the gameplay feels like Halo Infinite, just slower. Also if you're gonna say the games aged poorly because their old, that means you'd have to think any game that's old is dog shit.
      In conclusion you're claim is completely false and shows incompetence in every word. To say 343 has done better than Bungie is just straight up stupid. Say what you want about Bungie games, but somehow they all have more content than all of 343's games, all of them also released finished and in a playable condition. Not only that but Bungie was focused on making an actual game people wanted to play and enjoy, 343 is just focused on money. As I haven't even gotten into the many lies, and deceptions of 343, and their many many many many fuck ups.
      So no 343 has not been far better.

    • @dontcallmejohn8962
      @dontcallmejohn8962 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This dude gotta be trolling 💀

    • @OscarHernandez-dm7hp
      @OscarHernandez-dm7hp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sami sure bro 343 killed halo so go cry to ur 343 daddy’s 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @AndrewBarsky
    @AndrewBarsky 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    “We’re not trying to copy successful companies and take their ideas.”

  • @tomakamijo6047
    @tomakamijo6047 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had the full Hayabusa armor in Halo 3

  • @Heyyofryman
    @Heyyofryman 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 28:11 is that nick offerman’s voice ?

  • @Hey_yall_Jared_here.
    @Hey_yall_Jared_here. 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Even tho I’m not a halo fan,this has expanded my knowledge and I may consider buying bungie’s trilogy of the halo franchise as now I see why everyone hates halo 4

  • @arslanmuzafer
    @arslanmuzafer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How in God's name has this Dude Only 9700 Subscribers?

  • @xArnetta
    @xArnetta 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the noob dog clip 😳

  • @JustStop19
    @JustStop19 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have never played Halo, so explain to me, please, how 6.4 is a bad score?

  • @markfreeman4727
    @markfreeman4727 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I...don't like Halos multiplayer
    hard to 'get good' when i'm stuck using using an assault rifle all the time because i get killed two second after i pick up a different weapon..usually long before i can find a different weapon

  • @SuperSnakePlissken
    @SuperSnakePlissken 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    #SAVEHALO
    #FIREBONNIEROSS

    • @KangFasho
      @KangFasho  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      After the recent news I wish I had waited two extra months before making this video. Expectations were on the ground and 343 brought a shovel, Jesus Christ

    • @SuperSnakePlissken
      @SuperSnakePlissken 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KangFasho 100% of this falls on the c-suite of 343. Bonnie Ross has literally had the privilege of running one of the greatest and biggest IP's into the ground for a decade. She should have been fired after the worst video game launch in history Halo MCC.
      She should have been fired after over-promising and under-delivering as well as bait and switch marketing with Halo 5.
      Nope, that cunt has destroyed the franchise and Halo Infinite will never ever recover...and that bitch still has a job! It's unbelievable!

  • @himboslice_
    @himboslice_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    wait, you put infinite above reach campaign lmao

    • @KangFasho
      @KangFasho  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’ll admit I was a bit clouded by hype with that one, definitely would lower it now in hindsight.

    • @zacharybecker8228
      @zacharybecker8228 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      i personally put infinite dead last

  • @theholydoge7616
    @theholydoge7616 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    343 made reach and you guys liked it.
    We just gonna ignore that huh?
    And before somebody in the comments say, bungie made reach. They did not. Theres even a 343 thank you message at the ead of the credits sequence on both the pc version and xbox 36p version. The only place it isnt present for some reason is the mcc.

    • @343Films
      @343Films 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Literally fake news 😂 Your attempt at trolling is obvious

  • @Nodes805
    @Nodes805 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Glad to say Im glad I never bought any 343 Halo games, therefore my essence of Halo series remains pure..

  • @AyBee9725
    @AyBee9725 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    25:56 also 343 is 7 times 7 time 7…

  • @Mojojojo9001
    @Mojojojo9001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    to be fair, at least 343 updated the MCC until it was actually good, so now we can play the good Halo games from Bungie.
    And Halo 4…

    • @KangFasho
      @KangFasho  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree I am glad they stuck with it until it was fully fixed instead of just giving up on the game, (ala EA and Ubisoft) but the game never should’ve launched like that in the first place. Release a game when it’s ready not a beta test to patch overtime.

    • @thetruestar6348
      @thetruestar6348 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@KangFasho Funny thing is that MCC is about to get even more support than Infinite

    • @KangFasho
      @KangFasho  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea, including a fucking micro transaction shop to squeeze the money out of us even more cause 343 has to ruin every good thing 🥳

  • @OscarHernandez-dm7hp
    @OscarHernandez-dm7hp 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some one who said halo 4 and 5 where dog shit of a game and it’s not halo

  • @Ghostman223
    @Ghostman223 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel like almost every halo 343 game is good in some way. 4 (Personally) was decent. It isn't terrible but could've been better.
    5 had great multiplayer, one of the best multiplayer i played in 2015-2017. Campaign did suck.
    Infinite, now in a finished state for once, is generally a good game. Classic stuff is back, Gameplay is kinda replayable. Campaign was fine. Again not terrible.
    So yeah 343 does suck. They aren't the best at all, but each of these games have a good side. Especially infinite. And im not saying "Oh forget about the start of them" Because you shouldn't, keep those memories, and use them against a terrible company.
    I personally like all of these games since there is at least one good thing about them.

  • @Personat0r
    @Personat0r 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good video, although in my preference you could do with a lot less f-bombs. I do understand the usage of it to express frustration and disappointment but it was rather over the top and there are other ways to express those feelings.

    • @KangFasho
      @KangFasho  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yea sorry about that it’s just been in my vocabulary forever so I kinda just do it naturally when I’m not in a formal setting or anything like that. I do always make sure that my videos are marked as “not for kids” but I know there are still ways for them to work around that. I have considered using a censor before, will likely experiment with it. Thanks for the feedback tho and I’m glad you enjoyed the video!

    • @luffymonkey9552
      @luffymonkey9552 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KangFashodon’t be who cares

  • @ChainedBaird
    @ChainedBaird 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey, love the video. However i find that repetition, although funny. Can start to get annoying after long periods of time. Also you tend to lean without audio for long periods of time. I may not have any videos myself, but in the future i would aim to maybe to make clips shorter so that people can come here more for you than for just a slide show presentation with you flipping back and forth.
    Still following you tho!

  • @MrRhysReviews
    @MrRhysReviews 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    As someone who never really cared for Halo (especially Master Chief and the main games that follow him) I finally did play through the entire MCC on my Xbox Series X, now I'd already played Halo 3 ODST and Reach and LOVED them for what they were on Xbox 360, but Halo 1/2 AE/3/4 were new to me. I actually REALLY LOVED Halo 4 honestly 🤷‍♂️ I would put it up alongside ODST/Reach personally for "Favourite", I mean so is Halo 2 AE actually and I do respect Halo 1 (or AE anyway) since I played it back to back about 3 times on Legendary with my friend who has been an Xbox and Halo fanboy since the beginning so there's that 🤷‍♂️

  • @conor5411
    @conor5411 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the reason I don't play halo and I have a playstation and I uncharted

  • @AlphaZeroX96
    @AlphaZeroX96 ปีที่แล้ว

    Timesplitters series is better anyway.

  • @TheMothdemon
    @TheMothdemon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    MCC isn't a failure though 😑

    • @343Films
      @343Films 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It was for the _first 4 fucking years after release._ It was literally broken in many, many aspects.

  • @Powsifu
    @Powsifu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You honestly lost me at insulting destiny, destiny was just as good if not better than halo and I used to play halo a shit ton in the early 2010's but I just have better memories with friends from D1