Warframe also shows that you can continue to do live service for a prolonged time. But you have to do it right AND be mindful of the competition. Not to mentions that Helldivers 2 and Warframe also have cautionary lessons they managed to survive. The race to the bottom nerf phase of HellDivers 2, the past history of overextension and ongoing lack of commitment to some of those then new ideas in Warframe. Not to mention some of the excess pushes towards ever greater monetization that feel like they were handed down from above DE. Oh, and Rivals shows a lesson of how to take everything that made a competitor's flagship successful, improve on it while everyone knows what they did, and be praised for it. Or a lesson of how everything good you have can be copied and bettered, leaving you in a crater of your own making.
I don’t think people understand the magnitude of the damage that Batman’s plan does to his character. He willingly got himself and the league captured and cloned, and then allowed those said clones to kill or conscript hundreds of thousands of people into brainiacs army. And this is made doubly egregious by the end that shows that Batman can just punch brainiac and defeat him. So all those innocents suffered and died from a conflict that could have been ended before it even began. Also, despite how the game props up Wonder Woman, she might have been the most disrespected league member outside of Batman. She did nothing in the watchtower for 3 weeks and then dies. Wow so cool 😒
I dunno Flash not succeeding in doing anything when he was the other member who was free (Dude loses to Green Lantern? Then gets wrecked by Batman, even with the excuse he's injured?), getting brutalized/his finger lopped off and his clone getting pissed on. Green Lantern getting stripped to his boxers, the whole constant ACAB cops thing with him and then how he's treated while he's being saved. Everything about Batman's capture, torture and death was unsatisfying. Then the all according to plan retcon. Wonderwoman gets retconned a pointless death after getting glazed to heaven. Superman got off free though.
@@1ProAssassin Did he get away Scott free? Mr "we have to go in good faith" the naive to down right stupid superman that had the league walk into Brainiac's ship in good faith? Another one for lantern is him agreeing with superman despite the warnings from, flash, Batman and wonderwoman. The whole league was character assassinated.
Here's the thing tho. Apparently rocksteady never pitched a superman game, it was a puzzle solving game before warner bros gave them the suicide squad ip.
This whole game is a delusion happening in Harley's head. She's just giggling to herself in a padded cell while the security guards argue over how much prep time Batman would need to defeat the League.
Make games purely for entertainment, and you shall receive money from your customers. Make games purely for money, and customers will not entertain the thought of paying you.
Once again. The game would have been "better" off as a videogame where Waller ran multiple simulation VR-wargames to test out stratagems to beat the Justice League if they went rogue. Even stupid ideas could have been signed off since nobody died. >_>
I say this often on these videos, but I still find it ironic that the "B team" made Gotham Knights, the game that made the most sense taking place in the Arkhamverse, has much of the Arkham games' gameplay, and could've been tweaked had they had a better team working on it and no SBI writing. But the game they _claim_ takes place in the Arkhamverse, has you killing the Suicide Squad, using guns in every battle, and an aesthetic that looks absolutely nothing like the Arkhamverse. Oh, and shitty SBI writing that hates both Batman and gamers as a whole. Meaning, Rocksteady should have just made Gotham Knights and improved the gameplay, and WB Montreal should've just made a Superman game or something. Hell, a Wonder Woman game would've been better than Suicide Squad. WB and DC been trying to make them a thing for ten years, including in the comics, the same way Marvel kept trying to make Miss Marvel a thing. Nobody likes them! They're never gonna be a thing.
If I had a nickel for every time Warner Bros has ruined a game by making it a live service with their greed and incompetence (S-Squad: KtJL & MultiVersus), I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice in one year.
I remember how some channels were dedicated to defend this game. And even after release there were a lot of guys defending it. And how all of their claims proven to be lies at the end.
Count yourself lucky thanks to my stupid need to be fair and impartial I said, “you know what? I’m sure as an Arkham and comic fan I’m gonna hate this but maybe as a fan of looter shooters it’s redeemable?” So buy it and good god was I wrong. The skill trees are just word and number salad, all the loot looks, shoots and feels the same, and the endgame is probably the worst I’ve ever seen, destiny 2 handled endgame better than this, it’s just grinding to do more grinding and you have to do that 13 times?? The only two victories the ONLY two are that the movement system is great, and they at least stuck to their guns and gave us everything they promised us in terms of content instead of just taking their ball pulling the plug and going home so you at least get the amount of content you paid for. Don’t do what I did stay away from this game
29:40 When I heard that, I instantly thought "That would be do cool (no pun intended)" since this an alternate dimension. Have Nora be the one to take the mantle instead of Victor. Like Victor managed to revive her, but the operation weakened him. Hearing that Braniac had advance technology, she sets out on a desperate mission to find something that could save her husband's life.
@@micahfurlow2624 As stated, Rocksteady was just as baffled of the concept of this games as much as we were. After the terrible launch and the lackluster comeback with the "Twinkler", any hope or honest effort for the game was buried. At that point Warner Bros. were too desperate to remove their diseased cash cow out of sunken cost fallacy and RS probably just gave up knowing that this was a DOA and wanted to finish any content that wasn't already scrapped as fast as possible so they could hopefully see this as a scar that eventually will fade to obscurity. At least with Concord, when Sony realized that that was a dud (albeit four years too late), they immediately pulled the plug and scraped most of their live-service projects.
I love how after Joker they chose the bottom of the barrel characters for each season as if they weren't eating shit. Having Deathstroke pop up feels like they went "maybe we should actually choose someone cool instead of some b-list OC character." Honestly, I would've applauded if they added Snowflame for shits and giggles.
It ending with Batman just punching out Braniac Seems like them trying to save face after how disrepectful Batman death was and how unfortunate it was to be one of Kevin Conroy's last roles Also anyone else find it Kinda Funny that The Treatment of Wonder Woman was kinda Flipped? At first she was giving a Serious Death and mourn by the Suicide squad seen after Flash got pissed on, Green Lantern got stripped to his Boxers and Batman getting a Moral speech from Harley. Then jump cuts to the ending, Flash and Green lantern got to be in the last fight against Brainiac Batman One punches him and Wonder woman is just dead and not brought up. ok so the rest of the justice league don't come out the best in the ending but still
Batman Beyond: Arkham would've been the golden-iest gooze making even more golden-iest eggs for WB with Terry McGinnis bringing his attitude to an Arkham game and/or movie, but we don't live in that timeline...
Kevin Conroy died for this? Fucking disgraceful. Honestly, if you want a true videogame where Conroy gives one final performance in his final years, just look at Injustice 2. That game at the very least kept true to Batman's character, despite not entirely being Arkham related. But I'd settle for that over this bloated mess anyday. Which begs the question, why is WB *so obsessed* with making Suicide Squad "a thing"? At best James Gunn's movie was fine, as well 'Assault on Arkham', but other than that its been mostly garbage. What is their obsession with it? Idk if its from the failed DCU mimicing MCU, the constant Fortnite hype to aim towards the "young/hip" generation, maybe recently with the cynical view on superheroes ala The Boys/Invincible. Whatever it is, its definitely outstayed its welcome if this is the quality they're able to produce. imo.
Despite being memed to death online, the first Suicide Squad movie did quite well at the box office. I would think that initial success plus all the money from merchandise is why WB keeps pushing for the squad.
Not giving Rocksteady every green light for a Superman game after the Arkham series is absolutely INSANE!!!!! That is an actual crime against humanity.
Bro what an absolute disgrace to Kevin Conroy’s legacy. Having a decade in development and it releasing garbage like this. I won’t even pick this up even with PlayStation making it free.
His appearance in crisis pt 3 was more respectful than this and there hasn’t been a good adaptation of crisis since graphic audio. And his cameo in that amounted to the league we grew up with being destroyed by antimatter.
You forgot about the game breaking bug during the early access lauch when it automatically completed the game when you first boot it up. Then they had to take servers down for hours
let's not forget Kevin Conroy also passed away around the time of this game's release, making this game, his Last Video Game Voice Role, adding even more Fuel to the fire
Don't forget people also tried to say Kevin would have defended Sweet Baby and would have told the fans off. They tried to virtue signal a dead man that people love.
Bro, Marvel is just as trash. Marvel Rivals just copied Overwatch 1. To be fair, it was a winning formula. Everything else Marvel has put out in the last decade has been below 5/10s, both video games and shows/movies.
@Big_Bulli Rivals is fun, and since OW1 no longer exists it's fair game imo. Then there's Midnight Suns, I love that game personally. And idk if the Spiderman games count but they're nice too I've heard. Movie stuff wise... well I liked the Loki show and the Moon Knight show. Shang Chi was cool. Spiderman into the spiderverse is one of the best movies in that genre I've ever seen. uuuuhm... hm. ok that's about it, point taken.
While it's a shame KTJL failed and died, the silver lining is that the founders of Rocksteady made a new study, so far they haven't announce anything yet but wouldn't be hilarious if the game they announce was a Daredevil Game with the Batman Arkham Games?
The original Rocksteady team originally wanted to make Arkham City first, but because Eidos and Warner Bros. didn’t have much faith in them yet, they made Asylum first as a compromise to prove they can make an outstanding game. They were so ballsy and confident it would succeed that they teased City in that same game. What happened to THAT Rocksteady that took risks and knew what they were doing? Ever since Sefton Hill and Jamie Walker left, they are a shell of their former selves.
Urban Chaos: Riot Response was a great AA game that had the misfortune of releasing for PS2 right when the PS3 era started. Campy but fun, an absolute banger for a first title. You could play it and tell it was from a team with potential.
I just hope this is the last of these abominable "services", games need to go back to being fucking products with actual love polish and fun put into them like what we saw in the 7th gen era. It's probably not over, but I hope this is at least a step towards redemption. Also as a "fun" sidenote, the game was bugged at launch with servers that didn't work and gave everyone 100% completion instantly, thus requiring Rocksteady to take it offline while they fixed it. So all the people who paid $100 to play the game on its actual release date couldn't play it on its actual release date. All they got as compensation was $20 worth of LuthorCoins. Bravo, Rocksteady. 👏
Rocksteady basically was suffering alongside Arkane, forced to swap from great single players to a forced Live Service that turned out horrible and was shut down
Where the hell was azrael? You would think Batman would have continued to train him because he’s just back around again to form the justice league after faking his death.
Bad game might make not enough profit Worse game might only lose money This game ended up being Worse than that by basically destroying their own products, their own Reputation, and IP, FOR NOTHING It's like Golden Goose tale, but the owner bought and used "KILL THE GOOSE MACHINE" and Surprised that the Goose is dead, and somehow think they should Stuck their arm into machine and flabbergasted that they lost their arm. Truly one of (sadly) many case study in few years, of effect of "Toxic Positivity" "Delusional" "Greed" and much more, that somehow many Companies still unable to understand??!?!!
This game was going to fail from the second it was Live Service. Then failed even harder with it being online only for what I've been told for a long while until it was finally offline. Either way the game failed and where do you see me? Playing Batman Arkham Asylum, playing Batman Arkham City, playing Batman Arkham Origins, and finally playing Batman Arkham Knight. Don't have vr so can't say anything about Batman Arkham Shadow. But do you know how many hours I've racked up with Arkham Knight? I've 240% completed the game. On Nightmare
Literally one of the WORST Superhero Game EXPERIENCES OF ALL TIME. This Story doesn’t make any sense. The Justice League is alive and the Squad were fighting clones the whole time and it turns out it was Batman’s plan from the beginning? And for some reason his plan involved Wonder Woman being killed by a clone league member? It’s apparent Rocksteady didn’t care anymore about the story after the HUGE Backlash the game received should have just made a Superman game instead you’re already in Metropolis. I would rather play Superman 64 than Suicide Squad Kill The Justice League. Gameplay is very repetitive, main characters are annoying and they have zero growth throughout the story. The mission design is TERRIBLE there are literally 7 main campaign missions where you have to protect a very slow moving vehicle against waves of enemies it’s so boring and repetitive! Man I can’t believe Rocksteady made this game it feels like Ubisoft created this crap the quality is a TREMENDOUS drop off from the Arkham Games. It was a huge mistake to set this game in the Arkham Universe because it retcons everything in the Arkham games. Rocksteady Studios might not be able to bounce back from this mess. We went from playing as “The BATMAN” to transgender Mr. Freeze… oh how the mighty have fallen.
If Rocksteady REALLY wanted some good will back, they should remaster Urban Chaos for modern day systems. I know that will NEVER happen with the (idiotic) opinions of the terminally online being ACAB, and therefore ANYTHING related to the police being shown in a positive light is shit on relentlessly, but I would genuinely LOVE to play Urban Chaos Riot Response on my PS5 instead of having to find a functional PS2 PLUS, If games like The Thing (2002) or even the 2000 Jedi Power Battles can get graphical upscale remasters, than so can one of the coolest First Person Shooters that hardly anyone has ever heard of.
Oh, and Kang - on the topic of "how is this ass was positive on Steam" - for around 2 years now, Steam has been blatantly removing negative reviews on tripple-A games exclusively at the launch date and some time after. You can see the same on Dragon Age: Failguard and some other recent titles. They probably justify it in the same way as by-default-hiding some reviews in "recent spike of reviews" - it has been a feature for even longer. I get that they more than anything protecting their own income, but this is shady AF. Rotten tomatoes territory.
thanks for reminding me i really HATED the sushi squad when WB started cramming them down our throats no doubt trying to make their own versions of the Guardians of the Galaxy or something...point is they ALL freaking suck, and I can't STAND Quinn anymore thanks to all the cramming they did...
If Warner Bros. decides to release a compilation of the Arkham games please include Origins not just Asylum and City. Don’t fuckin pull a Ubisoft like the Far Cry compilation. I don’t live in Europe.
15:20 Just want to quickly chime in. Realistically, reworking this abomination into something RESEMBLING batman games, would have took around 2 years of development, at least. I'm talking strictly game-mechanics and necessary stuff, such as models/animation work. Re-doing the STORY would take from a year to god knows how much. Just because every story change would chain into gameplay changes, into new areas that need to be made, new models, new voice acting, just the whole bunch of stuff.
Great Video Kang. Cant remember the last time i laughed this hard at a video. The Review is on Point. Love your Videos man! Keep it up! Its great seeing ur back with videos TH-cam was dry as hell when you were gone ngl. :)
Still funny that a few months before the servers were announced to be shut down, they were putting the ultimate edition of this game on sale for two dollars on PS5, and they also gave it away for free on PS+. It was that bad lmao.
Leave it to Sweet Baby Inc to kill Rocksteady as of now they are barely clinging onto life as half the staff got laid off. That poisonous DEI Company forced this turd to be made and well we all know what happened afterwards XD!
Dawg as much as I dislike SBI, they barely had any involvement in the development of the game, they are the consulting company, the ones who support their Idea after the project got approved by the higher ups and the director of the game. You are giving them way too much credit for the trainwreck of this game
@@bensadfleck9972 Well that explains Mrs Freeze and Lawless being turned into a black woman outta nowhere and Harely looking like she got bad plastic surgery XD!
The Batman beyond movie was NOT CANCELLED. It was a PITCH to WB. They didn’t say no to it but they didn’t say yes. It’s up in the air if it will ever become a thing.
They made Urban Chaos ??? Well color me surprised. Sometimes I still think of that game and how it was pre-GTA III logic for sure, given the controls scheme. The control scheme on pc was definately NOT thought out that well. How can you design shooter in 2006 without a proper mouse usage ?
The only thing that works in this game is Wally Wingert's performace as Riddler except for one sentence. But as he was out of practice I will give it a pass this time. Also, Bat-Man: Arkham Dracula or Court of Owls prequel.👇
Corporate boardrooms have nothing to do with it. The problem are incompetent developers who take 10 years to make trash. AAA gaming is dead until the competency crisis is solved.
This colassal fuck up really made me lose all my faith in Rocksteady/WB. What a fall from grace. I understand that it was mostly WB telling Rocksteady to do this shit, and Jamie Walker and Sefton Hill probably left before launch because there was nothing they could do to stop it besides disassociate themselves from the project. Being that the leadership is gone and a lot of the talent went with them, I don't think we'll ever get an Arkham game as good as the original trilogy ever again (even though I LOVED Arkham Shadow). At least not from WB. I hope I eat these words and either Rocksteady or WB Montreal picks themselves up and does something great. I just can't believe this franchise I grew up with and sunk so much of my childhood into turned into this. I remember being 9 years old and watching Batman Arkham Asylum walkthroughs becuase I couldn't get past the Killer Croc section. I remember getting Arkham City Christmas morning and playing it for the first time and it blew my mind that I was playing as Arkham Batman in an open world. Arkham Knight also completely blew my mind with the Batmobile and its gameplay and the even BIGGER open world and its graphics which STILL hold up 10 years later. I'm heartbroken. Spider-Man 2 also hurt me deeply with all its woke propaganda. These companies really have no idea what their fanbase wants and it really shows.
The fact the writers of this trash tried to make the demon that is Arkham Harley be more like her hbo max cartoon self was hilarious. They really thought that the same person who killed kids for the lulz would be the right person to give a speech to Batman about trauma? Damn
This just hurts me as someone who grew up playing the Batman games Arkham Asylum Arkham city and Arkham knight (yes I need to play origins so you guys won’t attack me in the comments) I just lost faith with rocksteady now like I can’t even know how they would explain this
More and more we become the world where Adam Warlock found a colossal tower of garbage contaminated with precious gems. And the gems this time are made of Lego. First we get Lego making the best game where you play as the doctor, then Lego made a better story where Kang fights the avengers than the MCU, and in 2024 we got Lego making a better game where we play as Dc villains than the company behind the Arkham games. And for the record, I like the Lego games.
Meanwhile, the live service game that released less than a week after Suicide Squad: Helldivers 2
And Marvel Rivals releasing 4 days before Suicide Squad Season 4 lol
Yep!
But the difference is, that game is GOOD!😎
@@Mojojojo9001 Both games are!😎
Warframe also shows that you can continue to do live service for a prolonged time.
But you have to do it right AND be mindful of the competition. Not to mentions that Helldivers 2 and Warframe also have cautionary lessons they managed to survive. The race to the bottom nerf phase of HellDivers 2, the past history of overextension and ongoing lack of commitment to some of those then new ideas in Warframe. Not to mention some of the excess pushes towards ever greater monetization that feel like they were handed down from above DE.
Oh, and Rivals shows a lesson of how to take everything that made a competitor's flagship successful, improve on it while everyone knows what they did, and be praised for it. Or a lesson of how everything good you have can be copied and bettered, leaving you in a crater of your own making.
PSN did that one in
I don’t think people understand the magnitude of the damage that Batman’s plan does to his character.
He willingly got himself and the league captured and cloned, and then allowed those said clones to kill or conscript hundreds of thousands of people into brainiacs army. And this is made doubly egregious by the end that shows that Batman can just punch brainiac and defeat him. So all those innocents suffered and died from a conflict that could have been ended before it even began.
Also, despite how the game props up Wonder Woman, she might have been the most disrespected league member outside of Batman. She did nothing in the watchtower for 3 weeks and then dies. Wow so cool 😒
Sadly everyone was written HORRIBLY written in that game!😥
wonder woman did nothing for 3 weeks in the watchtower and then she gets all emotional death scene with sad music cuz she a woman
Plus they made her an ugly middle eastern woman. Like isn’t she supposed to a Greek goddess there’s no way she’d be average looking
I dunno Flash not succeeding in doing anything when he was the other member who was free (Dude loses to Green Lantern? Then gets wrecked by Batman, even with the excuse he's injured?), getting brutalized/his finger lopped off and his clone getting pissed on. Green Lantern getting stripped to his boxers, the whole constant ACAB cops thing with him and then how he's treated while he's being saved. Everything about Batman's capture, torture and death was unsatisfying. Then the all according to plan retcon. Wonderwoman gets retconned a pointless death after getting glazed to heaven. Superman got off free though.
@@1ProAssassin Did he get away Scott free? Mr "we have to go in good faith" the naive to down right stupid superman that had the league walk into Brainiac's ship in good faith?
Another one for lantern is him agreeing with superman despite the warnings from, flash, Batman and wonderwoman.
The whole league was character assassinated.
Here's the thing tho. Apparently rocksteady never pitched a superman game, it was a puzzle solving game before warner bros gave them the suicide squad ip.
Insane editing and witty writing for such a small channel. Subbed
Wow didn’t even realize until I saw this comment. Youre totally right!
This whole game is a delusion happening in Harley's head. She's just giggling to herself in a padded cell while the security guards argue over how much prep time Batman would need to defeat the League.
Make games purely for entertainment, and you shall receive money from your customers. Make games purely for money, and customers will not entertain the thought of paying you.
"It has to be better than this"
My sweet king, that's not a high wall of expectations, that's a fence, like, for toddlers.
It's a couch high fence. I'm sure they'll reach it. After the studio shuts down
For toddlers Harley likes to kill
A suicide squad game was teased during Origins. During a post credit scene with Deathstroke. So, WB games had this idea for a while.
*Then where the hell was Deathstroke*
@@CamelofDestiny DLC
Once again. The game would have been "better" off as a videogame where Waller ran multiple simulation VR-wargames to test out stratagems to beat the Justice League if they went rogue. Even stupid ideas could have been signed off since nobody died. >_>
I say this often on these videos, but I still find it ironic that the "B team" made Gotham Knights, the game that made the most sense taking place in the Arkhamverse, has much of the Arkham games' gameplay, and could've been tweaked had they had a better team working on it and no SBI writing. But the game they _claim_ takes place in the Arkhamverse, has you killing the Suicide Squad, using guns in every battle, and an aesthetic that looks absolutely nothing like the Arkhamverse. Oh, and shitty SBI writing that hates both Batman and gamers as a whole.
Meaning, Rocksteady should have just made Gotham Knights and improved the gameplay, and WB Montreal should've just made a Superman game or something. Hell, a Wonder Woman game would've been better than Suicide Squad. WB and DC been trying to make them a thing for ten years, including in the comics, the same way Marvel kept trying to make Miss Marvel a thing. Nobody likes them! They're never gonna be a thing.
If I had a nickel for every time Warner Bros has ruined a game by making it a live service with their greed and incompetence (S-Squad: KtJL & MultiVersus), I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice in one year.
I would say 3. Mk 1
I say it’s more sad
Gotham Knights wasn't that far off... and yeah, I'd say MK 1 counts too, this isn't new to WB, they're just that stubborn
@@evandaymon8303 yeah, definitely three
37:59 Actually, if you look closely, Brainiac actually does turn around just like all the previous times. They just didn't show it in a cutscene.
Now I'm EXTREMELY happy that I never got this game.
It’s sad, that Lego did a better job making a game where you play as DC villains than the company that made the Arkham series.
I remember how some channels were dedicated to defend this game. And even after release there were a lot of guys defending it. And how all of their claims proven to be lies at the end.
I'm EXTREMELY happy that I never got COD: Vanguard and any other future CODs after that.
Count yourself lucky thanks to my stupid need to be fair and impartial I said, “you know what? I’m sure as an Arkham and comic fan I’m gonna hate this but maybe as a fan of looter shooters it’s redeemable?” So buy it and good god was I wrong. The skill trees are just word and number salad, all the loot looks, shoots and feels the same, and the endgame is probably the worst I’ve ever seen, destiny 2 handled endgame better than this, it’s just grinding to do more grinding and you have to do that 13 times?? The only two victories the ONLY two are that the movement system is great, and they at least stuck to their guns and gave us everything they promised us in terms of content instead of just taking their ball pulling the plug and going home so you at least get the amount of content you paid for.
Don’t do what I did stay away from this game
@@nathanhendrickson790 Don't worry, I will DEFINITELY never get this game.
WB must be allergic to batman beyond cause they keep shutting out ideas that relates to that
29:40 When I heard that, I instantly thought "That would be do cool (no pun intended)" since this an alternate dimension. Have Nora be the one to take the mantle instead of Victor. Like Victor managed to revive her, but the operation weakened him. Hearing that Braniac had advance technology, she sets out on a desperate mission to find something that could save her husband's life.
Yo, that sounds like an awesome idea.
It just boggles the mind why they didn't do anything even half as interesting as this
@@micahfurlow2624 As stated, Rocksteady was just as baffled of the concept of this games as much as we were. After the terrible launch and the lackluster comeback with the "Twinkler", any hope or honest effort for the game was buried. At that point Warner Bros. were too desperate to remove their diseased cash cow out of sunken cost fallacy and RS probably just gave up knowing that this was a DOA and wanted to finish any content that wasn't already scrapped as fast as possible so they could hopefully see this as a scar that eventually will fade to obscurity. At least with Concord, when Sony realized that that was a dud (albeit four years too late), they immediately pulled the plug and scraped most of their live-service projects.
I love how after Joker they chose the bottom of the barrel characters for each season as if they weren't eating shit. Having Deathstroke pop up feels like they went "maybe we should actually choose someone cool instead of some b-list OC character."
Honestly, I would've applauded if they added Snowflame for shits and giggles.
"B-list" I wouldnt even call lawless and mrs freeze d-listers
@@chrisrodriguez1308 Yeah, they're not even on the list.
It ending with Batman just punching out Braniac Seems like them trying to save face after how disrepectful Batman death was and how unfortunate it was to be one of Kevin Conroy's last roles
Also anyone else find it Kinda Funny that The Treatment of Wonder Woman was kinda Flipped?
At first she was giving a Serious Death and mourn by the Suicide squad seen after Flash got pissed on, Green Lantern got stripped to his Boxers and Batman getting a Moral speech from Harley.
Then jump cuts to the ending, Flash and Green lantern got to be in the last fight against Brainiac Batman One punches him and Wonder woman is just dead and not brought up. ok so the rest of the justice league don't come out the best in the ending but still
Batman Beyond: Arkham would've been the golden-iest gooze making even more golden-iest eggs for WB with Terry McGinnis bringing his attitude to an Arkham game and/or movie, but we don't live in that timeline...
Kevin Conroy died for this? Fucking disgraceful.
Honestly, if you want a true videogame where Conroy gives one final performance in his final years, just look at Injustice 2. That game at the very least kept true to Batman's character, despite not entirely being Arkham related. But I'd settle for that over this bloated mess anyday.
Which begs the question, why is WB *so obsessed* with making Suicide Squad "a thing"?
At best James Gunn's movie was fine, as well 'Assault on Arkham', but other than that its been mostly garbage. What is their obsession with it?
Idk if its from the failed DCU mimicing MCU, the constant Fortnite hype to aim towards the "young/hip" generation, maybe recently with the cynical view on superheroes ala The Boys/Invincible.
Whatever it is, its definitely outstayed its welcome if this is the quality they're able to produce. imo.
his final voice role as Batman was thankfully Justice League: Crisis on Infinite Earths - Part 3, just watch the clip, movie means nothing
Despite being memed to death online, the first Suicide Squad movie did quite well at the box office. I would think that initial success plus all the money from merchandise is why WB keeps pushing for the squad.
Rocksteady DID end the Arkham series at Arkham knight!
Suicide squad Kill the Justice League is NOT part of the Arkham series!😡
Not giving Rocksteady every green light for a Superman game after the Arkham series is absolutely INSANE!!!!! That is an actual crime against humanity.
Bro what an absolute disgrace to Kevin Conroy’s legacy. Having a decade in development and it releasing garbage like this. I won’t even pick this up even with PlayStation making it free.
His appearance in crisis pt 3 was more respectful than this and there hasn’t been a good adaptation of crisis since graphic audio.
And his cameo in that amounted to the league we grew up with being destroyed by antimatter.
Another case of WB hates making money
exhibit C: Mad Max 2
1 live service flop apparently wasn't enough for 2024, we just HAD to have 2
what was the other one?
@avocadothecat there was concord and suicide squad kill the justice league
@@avocadothecat Gotham knight
@@Jackdeadcrow Never heard of that one... yikes
@@JackdeadcrowNo that’s not what he’s talking about. Gotham Knights didn’t even come out in 2024
You forgot about the game breaking bug during the early access lauch when it automatically completed the game when you first boot it up. Then they had to take servers down for hours
29:04 subzero with a bane themed ak 47 wouldve went crazy
let's not forget Kevin Conroy also passed away around the time of this game's release, making this game, his Last Video Game Voice Role, adding even more Fuel to the fire
He passed away around Gotham Knights release. Had SSKTJL not been delayed, the backlash would have been way worse.
Don't forget people also tried to say Kevin would have defended Sweet Baby and would have told the fans off. They tried to virtue signal a dead man that people love.
Why tf does WB have to ruin everything? I will never forgive them in 2017 of Shadow of war and now this. This company needs to be dismantled
Meanwhile Marvel:
Seriously... what are WB thinking???
Bro, Marvel is just as trash. Marvel Rivals just copied Overwatch 1. To be fair, it was a winning formula. Everything else Marvel has put out in the last decade has been below 5/10s, both video games and shows/movies.
@Big_Bulli Rivals is fun, and since OW1 no longer exists it's fair game imo. Then there's Midnight Suns, I love that game personally. And idk if the Spiderman games count but they're nice too I've heard.
Movie stuff wise... well I liked the Loki show and the Moon Knight show. Shang Chi was cool. Spiderman into the spiderverse is one of the best movies in that genre I've ever seen. uuuuhm... hm. ok that's about it, point taken.
dude you are so entertaining! subbed
While it's a shame KTJL failed and died, the silver lining is that the founders of Rocksteady made a new study, so far they haven't announce anything yet but wouldn't be hilarious if the game they announce was a Daredevil Game with the Batman Arkham Games?
I remember when the script got leaked man oh my
36:07 to be honest being cool is all Deathstroke has going for him.
The original Rocksteady team originally wanted to make Arkham City first, but because Eidos and Warner Bros. didn’t have much faith in them yet, they made Asylum first as a compromise to prove they can make an outstanding game. They were so ballsy and confident it would succeed that they teased City in that same game. What happened to THAT Rocksteady that took risks and knew what they were doing? Ever since Sefton Hill and Jamie Walker left, they are a shell of their former selves.
Urban Chaos: Riot Response was a great AA game that had the misfortune of releasing for PS2 right when the PS3 era started. Campy but fun, an absolute banger for a first title. You could play it and tell it was from a team with potential.
I just hope this is the last of these abominable "services", games need to go back to being fucking products with actual love polish and fun put into them like what we saw in the 7th gen era. It's probably not over, but I hope this is at least a step towards redemption.
Also as a "fun" sidenote, the game was bugged at launch with servers that didn't work and gave everyone 100% completion instantly, thus requiring Rocksteady to take it offline while they fixed it. So all the people who paid $100 to play the game on its actual release date couldn't play it on its actual release date. All they got as compensation was $20 worth of LuthorCoins. Bravo, Rocksteady. 👏
Rocksteady basically was suffering alongside Arkane, forced to swap from great single players to a forced Live Service that turned out horrible and was shut down
Where the hell was azrael? You would think Batman would have continued to train him because he’s just back around again to form the justice league after faking his death.
Bad game might make not enough profit
Worse game might only lose money
This game ended up being Worse than that by basically destroying their own products, their own Reputation, and IP, FOR NOTHING
It's like Golden Goose tale, but the owner bought and used "KILL THE GOOSE MACHINE" and Surprised that the Goose is dead, and somehow think they should Stuck their arm into machine and flabbergasted that they lost their arm.
Truly one of (sadly) many case study in few years, of effect of "Toxic Positivity" "Delusional" "Greed" and much more, that somehow many Companies still unable to understand??!?!!
This game was going to fail from the second it was Live Service. Then failed even harder with it being online only for what I've been told for a long while until it was finally offline. Either way the game failed and where do you see me? Playing Batman Arkham Asylum, playing Batman Arkham City, playing Batman Arkham Origins, and finally playing Batman Arkham Knight. Don't have vr so can't say anything about Batman Arkham Shadow. But do you know how many hours I've racked up with Arkham Knight? I've 240% completed the game. On Nightmare
Literally one of the WORST Superhero Game EXPERIENCES OF ALL TIME. This Story doesn’t make any sense. The Justice League is alive and the Squad were fighting clones the whole time and it turns out it was Batman’s plan from the beginning? And for some reason his plan involved Wonder Woman being killed by a clone league member? It’s apparent Rocksteady didn’t care anymore about the story after the HUGE Backlash the game received should have just made a Superman game instead you’re already in Metropolis. I would rather play Superman 64 than Suicide Squad Kill The Justice League. Gameplay is very repetitive, main characters are annoying and they have zero growth throughout the story. The mission design is TERRIBLE there are literally 7 main campaign missions where you have to protect a very slow moving vehicle against waves of enemies it’s so boring and repetitive! Man I can’t believe Rocksteady made this game it feels like Ubisoft created this crap the quality is a TREMENDOUS drop off from the Arkham Games. It was a huge mistake to set this game in the Arkham Universe because it retcons everything in the Arkham games. Rocksteady Studios might not be able to bounce back from this mess. We went from playing as “The BATMAN” to transgender Mr. Freeze… oh how the mighty have fallen.
Putting out the trash Suicide Squad over making a Superman or Batman Beyond game is disgustingly stupid.
cpt boomerang needed the gunnerang from borderlands
I don't understand why they didn't let you fight alongside the justice league just crazy
If Rocksteady REALLY wanted some good will back, they should remaster Urban Chaos for modern day systems.
I know that will NEVER happen with the (idiotic) opinions of the terminally online being ACAB, and therefore ANYTHING related to the police being shown in a positive light is shit on relentlessly, but I would genuinely LOVE to play Urban Chaos Riot Response on my PS5 instead of having to find a functional PS2
PLUS,
If games like The Thing (2002) or even the 2000 Jedi Power Battles can get graphical upscale remasters, than so can one of the coolest First Person Shooters that hardly anyone has ever heard of.
I hate that THIS is the closest we'll ever get to having a comic-accurate Deathstroke game.
amazing video loved it from start to finish
Oh, and Kang - on the topic of "how is this ass was positive on Steam" - for around 2 years now, Steam has been blatantly removing negative reviews on tripple-A games exclusively at the launch date and some time after. You can see the same on Dragon Age: Failguard and some other recent titles.
They probably justify it in the same way as by-default-hiding some reviews in "recent spike of reviews" - it has been a feature for even longer.
I get that they more than anything protecting their own income, but this is shady AF. Rotten tomatoes territory.
thanks for reminding me i really HATED the sushi squad when WB started cramming them down our throats no doubt trying to make their own versions of the Guardians of the Galaxy or something...point is they ALL freaking suck, and I can't STAND Quinn anymore thanks to all the cramming they did...
If Warner Bros. decides to release a compilation of the Arkham games please include Origins not just Asylum and City. Don’t fuckin pull a Ubisoft like the Far Cry compilation. I don’t live in Europe.
15:20
Just want to quickly chime in. Realistically, reworking this abomination into something RESEMBLING batman games, would have took around 2 years of development, at least.
I'm talking strictly game-mechanics and necessary stuff, such as models/animation work. Re-doing the STORY would take from a year to god knows how much. Just because every story change would chain into gameplay changes, into new areas that need to be made, new models, new voice acting, just the whole bunch of stuff.
This video deserves a sub
Agreed
At least 4chan posts can be funny, we've all laughed at greentexts. This is deviant art levels
Just randomly hearing toy man at the end of the rushed ending as if he was part of thr squad. Bro has he there season five pick or something
I've never seen a video dripping with so much vitriol and contempt before this. 10/10, would watch again
Great Video Kang. Cant remember the last time i laughed this hard at a video. The Review is on Point. Love your Videos man! Keep it up! Its great seeing ur back with videos TH-cam was dry as hell when you were gone ngl. :)
When we needed him most....
He returned~
Even if they are doing a good batman Arkham game, SO!? That continuity has been poisoned by the Task Force X game!
18:45 watching my friend keep doing the “I’ll have a little snack” and beat everyone was the funniest shit ever, bro is op lmao
This video is a better movie than the movies based on SS. Amazing work here
Still funny that a few months before the servers were announced to be shut down, they were putting the ultimate edition of this game on sale for two dollars on PS5, and they also gave it away for free on PS+. It was that bad lmao.
Leave it to Sweet Baby Inc to kill Rocksteady as of now they are barely clinging onto life as half the staff got laid off. That poisonous DEI Company forced this turd to be made and well we all know what happened afterwards XD!
Dawg as much as I dislike SBI, they barely had any involvement in the development of the game, they are the consulting company, the ones who support their Idea after the project got approved by the higher ups and the director of the game. You are giving them way too much credit for the trainwreck of this game
@@bensadfleck9972 Well that explains Mrs Freeze and Lawless being turned into a black woman outta nowhere and Harely looking like she got bad plastic surgery XD!
This was like Sonic mania being tied in with forces
The Batman beyond movie was NOT CANCELLED. It was a PITCH to WB. They didn’t say no to it but they didn’t say yes. It’s up in the air if it will ever become a thing.
That's corpo lingo for being shot down
33:22 Casey Boo mentioned
Damian Wayne Batman Beyond is a nightmare beyond comprehension.
You made me laugh so hard you are the true Angry Joe!
Is this one of those plots to cause a company to tank so you can buy off the pieces cheap and gut it
My dad king fasho is back with the milk let's gooo🙏
Ngl this video made me laugh so I’ll follow good sir
This is exactly what I've been waiting for! I don't wanna sound like Katt Williams
The Outro is 10/10.
Amazing vid
with the Arkham trilogy being my favorite trilogy and the reason why I love batman and the cast, this game was my canon event
That is a mf good video 🔥🔥🔥
BABE WAKE UP KANG FOSHO UPLOADED
44:07 That Outro 😂😂😂
They made Urban Chaos ??? Well color me surprised. Sometimes I still think of that game and how it was pre-GTA III logic for sure, given the controls scheme. The control scheme on pc was definately NOT thought out that well. How can you design shooter in 2006 without a proper mouse usage ?
The only thing that works in this game is Wally Wingert's performace as Riddler except for one sentence.
But as he was out of practice I will give it a pass this time.
Also, Bat-Man: Arkham Dracula or Court of Owls prequel.👇
Corporate boardrooms have nothing to do with it. The problem are incompetent developers who take 10 years to make trash. AAA gaming is dead until the competency crisis is solved.
Duuuuude THOSE WERE THE DLC CHARACTERS??????? DUDE NO FUCKING WAY
This colassal fuck up really made me lose all my faith in Rocksteady/WB. What a fall from grace. I understand that it was mostly WB telling Rocksteady to do this shit, and Jamie Walker and Sefton Hill probably left before launch because there was nothing they could do to stop it besides disassociate themselves from the project. Being that the leadership is gone and a lot of the talent went with them, I don't think we'll ever get an Arkham game as good as the original trilogy ever again (even though I LOVED Arkham Shadow). At least not from WB. I hope I eat these words and either Rocksteady or WB Montreal picks themselves up and does something great. I just can't believe this franchise I grew up with and sunk so much of my childhood into turned into this. I remember being 9 years old and watching Batman Arkham Asylum walkthroughs becuase I couldn't get past the Killer Croc section. I remember getting Arkham City Christmas morning and playing it for the first time and it blew my mind that I was playing as Arkham Batman in an open world. Arkham Knight also completely blew my mind with the Batmobile and its gameplay and the even BIGGER open world and its graphics which STILL hold up 10 years later. I'm heartbroken. Spider-Man 2 also hurt me deeply with all its woke propaganda. These companies really have no idea what their fanbase wants and it really shows.
The devs actually put a lot of the blame on Sefton Hill for how this game turned out.
5:52 You're not just preaching to the choir, but to a PRIEST of anti-Task Force X schpeals. AMEN, brother!
The fact the writers of this trash tried to make the demon that is Arkham Harley be more like her hbo max cartoon self was hilarious.
They really thought that the same person who killed kids for the lulz would be the right person to give a speech to Batman about trauma? Damn
This just hurts me as someone who grew up playing the Batman games Arkham Asylum Arkham city and Arkham knight (yes I need to play origins so you guys won’t attack me in the comments) I just lost faith with rocksteady now like I can’t even know how they would explain this
OUR DADDY IS BACK🔥🔥🔥2025 WILL GO INSANE🗣🗣
It should be illegal for wb to make live service
COULD'VE FUCKING HAD A NEW BATMAN MOVIE OR GAME BUT NOPE NO APPARENTLY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS
18:45 nah; ON POINT COMPARISON. Maybe like, pre android saga yamcha vs SSGSSKK3 goku TOP saga if you tweak it a bit.
Yea, what was RockSteady thinking.
Checking in on an alt account, my comment is simply GONE without a trace
@@BotLobby-t5j yeah it's just full on GONE, not even a trace
sushi squad unalive justice league finally live up to his name😂
31:47
That's Sweet Baby Inc. for ya.
Urban Chaos was awesome
Robocop batman... sounds familiar...showgirls 2....
These morons could've done a Justice League vs the Suicide Squad video game and it would've been (moderately) better than this.
Wb is not done with lived services game, harry potter legacies 2 going to be lived services
Short version i like Metropolis
live service, wokeness, mediocre game
recipe for california wild fire
More and more we become the world where Adam Warlock found a colossal tower of garbage contaminated with precious gems.
And the gems this time are made of Lego.
First we get Lego making the best game where you play as the doctor, then Lego made a better story where Kang fights the avengers than the MCU, and in 2024 we got Lego making a better game where we play as Dc villains than the company behind the Arkham games.
And for the record, I like the Lego games.