Ironic that Bonnie Ross would step down after I had this video set to publish while I'm on vacation. Still, not sure what to think. Do I boycott/stop playing a game because promises were made that weren't kept? What if those promises were made by people no longer with the company? Not sure how to feel about it tbh. But I'm still tired of talking about this game. We'll see what the future holds. I hope Forge is fun
Heads at 343 got pop off at least with the back clash also why an animatronic was for 15 years at the head of 343 Ps one of the new heads is the one who saved MCC so maybe he will bring back coop we have to wait.
Some of my best gaming memories were from Halo 2 and Halo 3. I’d play Rainbow Six Black arrow/Vegas as well, but if you say “Xbox” halo is what used to come to mind. I was so hyped for infinite but I haven’t touched it in months. The lack of content makes you feel like “yeah I’ve been here before” and it’s such a shame.
I was hyped too, I hadn’t played a Halo consistently since Halo 3, where I got introduced to the series. Me and my friends still play it a little bit, but we can only get a couple games in before we get extremely bored and decide to go into a custom game or just go play Fortnite.
Xbox Series S cant run current gen games in splitscreen, it's not anyone's fault Xbox One X (A LAST GEN CONSOLE) has more RAM than Xbox Series S (a "current" gen console). I'm gonna say it again, Xbox One X had 12GB of RAM, Series S has 10GB of RAM, and only 8GB usable because things like "quick resume" are oh so important in this adhd generation. Memory is very KEY when it comes to how ambitious devs can be when making a game
@@victory7763 I honestly love the Series S because of how easy it is to fit into a backpack and the hardware just looks so solid and well-built. That being said the 512GB SSD size, 4TFLOPS of GPU power and 10GB of VRAM... yeah Microsoft screwed the pooch on that one. BTW it's 10GB of GDDR6 vs 12GB of GDDR5 on the One X. So it's not a fair comparison.
The vibes always indicated that it was going to be sub par. The most money spent on the least amount of content ever. It has to be a world record or something.
The “tearing down the different communities” is the realest point ever man. I was soooo pumped to play team slayer, shotty snipes & ranked swat off the rip when this game dropped. When I saw what they offered.. and what they are offering now, I’m actually astounded at the stupidity of this company.
As a casual once and awhile player of Halo (not a super fan yet) I was wondering what are the biggest grievances you guys have with this game? I’ve heard that it’s absolutely awful and was wondering how bad it could possibly be.
@JC Denton it's something he cares about. Simple. He wants it to be good. And in a sea of content creators constantly bigging 343 up and defending them, we need larger content creators calling for change and for 343 to fix their shit.
@JC Denton so you don’t play halo and yet here you are complaining that a halo TH-camr isn’t making the content you want. Are you slow in the head or something?
@@judeyovichin7326 I get that people loved bungie we should for halo. But bungie wanted to leave halo and wanted it to end to move on. Bungie was never perfect enough (no one is) (corrected I didn’t mean to make it seem like bungie wasn’t great I meant to express the idea that bungie still wanted to give halo up regardless and that even the best studios can’t always keep a great game great. Maybe some of you are correct if bungie ended halo on a high note maybe there wouldn’t be all this now. But there also might not be a halo game be for better or worse). But it’s so shitttt that 343 have continuously downgraded. I pray the new management can do an mcc turn around.
only if you do your honest best to fix mistakes, aknowledge them and do your honest best to prevent them. and don't stand in the way of more capable people, but support them. making excuses for your own destructivity just makes you a monster.
Crazy how 343 dropped the ball with this one. They had all the good will and motivaton from the fans. I remember last year when everyone was so hyped around release and the first month had positive vibes DESPITE all the delays and cut features. Halo fans really were a very forgiving and generous fanbase with 343. And then the company just mismanaged the shit out of Infinite.
@@Harbingeruprisingofficial at the time of release yes but the campaign gets old and repetitive real fast and once you've done it it has no replay value unlike the other games.
@@stevenborg102 oh wow, I’m on my fourth co-op replay amongst friends. Each with different game variations. Hoping to 100% achievement on one of my slots
@@stevenborg102Xbox Series S cant run current gen games in splitscreen, it's not anyone's fault Xbox One X (A LAST GEN CONSOLE) has more RAM than Xbox Series S (a "current" gen console). I'm gonna say it again, Xbox One X had 12GB of RAM, Series S has 10GB of RAM, and only 8GB usable because things like "quick resume" are oh so important in this adhd generation. Memory is very KEY when it comes to how ambitious devs can be when making a game
343: The technology just doesn’t exist Act Man: Here’s your technology right here. I’ve simply asked you to create maps in a reasonable time 343: Ok sir that’s what we’re trying to do, but honestly, it’s impossible Act Man: HARDY LEBEL WAS ABLE TO BUILD RAT RACE IN A CAVE! WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS!
@Flare The irony of people in a nutshell. I honestly thought Halo 6 would fail when Halo 5 was released. And I was right. I hate being right sometimes.
My favourite thing about this whole "343 not giving a fuck" impression is that you can literally see the armours which are not available yet in the armour hall; you can see the armours and the player can demo the armour on them when you hover over it. You just can't unlock or buy it yet, and you need to wait until 343 release it as part of a new season, even though it literally is right there. The assets exists. You can demo it on your body. Why not just fucking release it when it's clearly ready? They delay things that should have already be in the game and have existed from the start of launch in order to inflate the content in their staggered season launches. Also, most of the armour in this game look like dog shit. The Mark V core has a serious texture issue on both shoulders where everything looks stretched and bad, and they still haven't fixed it. You still cannot customise armour on your feet, shins, calves, glutes or thighs/quads, most armour pieces clip through each other, chest armour pieces are lazy (they just plonk a dull looking knife on the default chest armour and call it a legendary) the texture quality of these assets are PS3 tier, all armour have these odd looking orange glowing parts, and the lighting looks very off and dull. Legendary paints look less impressive than lower tier ones often, and you cannot remove the scratches or rust/dirt/mud/dust off of the armour. I would have thought you could apply a layering system with the pristine paint as the base, then sliders for battle-worn scratches, mud and other layering on top to get the look you want. This is something so easy to implement as a developer. Also, there are no assassinations in the game, which Reach had literally 12 years ago, which means the only time you see your character's cool armour is when you die, which is negative reinforcement. I basically get to see my cool armour only when I'm annoyed cause I died, not when I'm doing a cool assassination. The armours are all modular, which means the assets can be edited individually retroactively and the changes should propagate across the game, yet these assets are never revisited by the developers/artists and reworked to fix issues, increase poly count or improve on the design and how they line up with the rest of the armour pieces, and the new assets/armour/cores from new seasons look better than the launch items, which creates a skew in terms of graphics. Half the stuff in your inventory looks blocky and shit, and all the new stuff looks much better, yet no one is going back and improving the old stuff to match. There is still no DLSS or RTX in this game, which is an expectation at this point, and you can't see your feet if you increase your FOV, even though you can for other Halo games with the same FOV. It's a complete joke. This game is a soulless money grab in every way imaginable.
I really believed in Halo Infinite and that I'd be playing it for 10 years straight with all the "live service" campaign DLC content that I thought was coming. I thought that's what "Infinite" meant. I must've misunderstood something. It's disappointing. I wish they'd just called it Halo 6 and left it at that. Anyway, I'll always love Halo.
Me too man. I thought there would be content and service and a full damn game for having paid the full price. Also, remember the Reach-style armor customization? Instead we got a paywall. Fuck 343i, those guys are lying faithless dogs.
Killing splitcreen was the nail in the coffin for me. Couch coop was an integral part of my love for halo. Me and a bunch of buddies hop on the couch, one friend brings a few extra controllers and we’re up till 3am having the time of our lives. Halo hasn’t really felt the same since then.
Same here. A friend and I were awaiting for that feature to finally jump into Infinite because split-screen co-op Halo is part of our DNA at this point. So sad.
I want to see a 90 minute documentary about how 343 mismanaged one of the greatest gaming franchises to ever exist with a bunch of insider info. It would be really interesting
There is one. Look up "343 industries versus the world" by Macrostyle on TH-cam. It covers mostly everything from 343i's inception to just before Infinite's release.
i think the only reason they canceled split screen at this point, is to force you to buy another console for your brother/sister/daughter/son whatever, and thats bad because they are expensive
Thats what I hate about Microsoft and why ill be going playstation, they get you with these little tactics of forcing you to pay extra. Much like how they make controllers so they break easily opposed to the long lasting 360. I hate when people love seeing Xbox and Playstation come together, their rivalry and competition in the 00's was what made the next console amazing, they had to compete with each other. Now they know they'll get a massive audience and just try to squeeze money out of the consumer for profit.
Gotta find a way to peddle bullshit consoles that people just arent interested in buying anymore. The console industry is absolutely fucked at this point. People have figured out that building computers isnt rocket science and that they dont have to replace it every 5 years because its become an antiquated useless pos. Thats the killing blow.
@@mast3rchief536. I own Switch, Series X, and Ps5. I only got Series X cause I have about a decade's worth of 360 and One games. I much prefer my Ps5 over the X. People praise Gamepass when Microsoft have been fumbling since the end of the 360 with Kinect. Series X will be my final Xbox console cause the Xbox games are just trash anymore. Epic and Bungie poured their hearts into Gears of War and Halo. The Coalition and 343 Industries have shown that they are in it for the money only
@@thebadwolf3088 so? Their mistakes aren’t *nearly* as big, bad, or meme worthy as Microsoft’s screwups; so you saying “w-what about PLAYSTATION??” makes you come off as a fanboy.
You guys remember when Halo Reach had so many game modes you’d literally never run out of content? With a beautiful menu, a satisfying upgrade system, LOBBIES THAT STAYED AFTER MATCHES. You guys remember as kids seeing that one player with a ghost helmet and being like wow this guy is so cool lemme send him a friend request? Halo used to have so much life, so much community, such a reason to invest. Weekly challenges, firefight, forge, swat, infection, big team battle, capture the flag, oddball, griffball, coop campaign, it was… perfection, and it was over a decade ago
Never forget bungie blessing us with invasion, Reach will forever be under appreciated. Aside from how you feel about the armour abilities or whatever to me that was peak halo
bro you could launch any mode in halo reach and have so much fun i played more on community made maps then the regular maps. its honestly gut wrenching to not be able to sit down and play halo reach
I've literally been saying since they released 4 that they would continue to ruin Halo. I have never been proved wrong. The company is rotten to the core. The Halo franchise needs a soft reboot back to the end of Halo 3 and a return to its identity, and for 343 to be either scrapped or to have the entire company burned and rebuilt.
@@Chinesepenistrap Saw the red flags early too. When I played Halo 4 it literally felt like COD with a Halo skin. It’s amazing how these companies like Dice and 343 manage to fuck this up. The formula was already created
Halo fans before the 2020 gameplay reveal: "Sprint doesn't belong in Halo!" "Yes it's okay!" Halo fans after the 2020 gameplay reveal: "Wait a minute forget sprint what the fuck have they been doing all these years?!"
I think a lot of us are cursed with experience of the amazing games we grew up with. To see games now makes us all frustrated and sad - especially with Halo. Further, to see the next generation of gamers enjoy and even praise them completely floors us. Standards have fallen so far, corporatization has sunk in, and we're more or less conditioned to it. I'm glad we have big voices like yours to recount what games were like and should be today.
Reasons this is happening. #1 All the people who were actually good at their jobs and could make a functioning game or write good stories either retired or were driven out to make room for the diversity hires #2 Game Devs prioritized meaningless metrics like, "16x bigger, 128x the graphical fidelity, 0.2% faster loading of Cash Shop" rather than ensuring the actual game worked first #3 Devs were too spineless to tell the executives that what they wanted wouldn't work, would take too long or shouldn't be in their game just because Fortnite is doing it and they want those dollars too. It's not like the marketing team could code the game. #4 A slurping up of the "Gamers are bad" mentality pushed by bad actors who hate games but want to chase it for clout because it's becoming a bigger industry than hollywood so they all have to proclaim how much they loved playing The Mariotendo and the Halo Box when they were growing up when the actual aspect of playing games is revolting to them and they despise the people who play them.
I think this is the trend of entertainment. Music is watered down nowadays. There’s a ton of Netflix, Prime, etc originals with B actors and booty ass filming techniques. We have an abundance of content now and I think we just have to sift through all the shit to find what’s good. I think the advancement of technology has made it easier to produce games, movies and music to the point where refinement and talent is lost. For example, filming movies on digital. Back then they were filmed on film, meaning that you can’t fuck up the scene. Whether it’s actor, the shot, the lighting, etc. The actor had to really sell the scene and make it believable. For video games, the developers released it on a disc and so they had to make sure that the game was as perfected as much as possible before they released it. For music, they didn’t have all the takes in the studio because it was recorded on tape. Meaning that it’s costly and when the band records the studio version of a song then they must make sure everyone is ready. Also all the other shit like software can fix many imperfections with a song nowadays. In all, it’s all money driven and less effort.
I was done long ago. It is an absolute tragedy what has happened to Halo, a slow death is something I NEVER thought I'd see for the franchise. Press F to pee pee on 343 Industries
I used to have this friend on halo reach who didn’t speak English but he would host these huge custom games,and every time I would join him it was always some fun custom maps,like racing or halo reach dayz and I think halo is missing that,missing the ability for me to make friends with someone who literally speaks a different language and missing the fun in mind mentality
That's most games these days. Good luck finding a buddy online, everyones talking on discord, or are gone at the end of the match. You don't get to join a server and see the same people constantly like the old days. Now you need an invite to a discord, and it's just awkward.
I say get yourself on MCC, download a bunch of customs, and host your own lobby in the customs browser. I do this from time to time and it is a lot of fun. I always put on Jenga or Speed Halo as it gets people to join, but also put on some whacky shit that people don't expect and will hopefully enjoy. Or get yourself in someone else's lobby and see if you can get people to put their mics on!
I’ve seen so many people say we don’t understand how much 343 loves Halo and how hard they work. The thing is, sometimes people/companies are just not right for the job no matter how hard they work. Would a sports franchise keep a terrible coach just because they were nice and worked hard? No. The job needs to be done no matter what and 343 has failed at that.
As far as I’m concerned halo ended with halo 3 and everything after that has been non canon… meanwhile at bungie they are doing a pretty good job D2 is stays at the top of steam for some time now.
The fact that split screen was canned entirely shows just how bad things are at 343.I mean a feature that has existed for 20 years being so hard to put in a game.
@@Daren6111 I agree. I dont play. I go a month here and there without playing. But sometimes I see a free weekly aware I want then I play to get it then I stop playing. Last week the award was a Key charm that said "WORT" on it haha
@@Joshua-qv1ho Hopped on yesterday for the first time since season 1. UI crashed to desktop twice. 5 minutes to load a single match. Rubber banding every game. Banned before reaching level 1 of the battle pass. Checked out customs while outwaiting the ban. Loading a forge map crashes the game. Uninstalled Infinite. Installed MCC.
The bad part about this is that splitscreen co-op totally works. It's literally 90% done, aside from some glitches and a little needed polish it works from beginning to end. There's no good reason to scrap a feature that is this far into development.
They want you to buy an extra copy. With splitscreen coop, two or more players can play the campaign with a single copy. That's pretty much the only "good" reason for 343...
As someone whom worked on this game as an artist, thank you for sharing all of this. i cant speak for 343, but i can say i as a gamer and HUGE Halo fan do hear you and you are justified in your thoughts.
It was U that let this happen? ...U watched this unfold and didn't jump on the grenade....we all died 😢..."soon the great journey will begin.but when it does the weight of your heresy shall "stay your feet"
Artist? As depressing as halo infinite is. I can't deny it's at least a gorgeous game. It's really the only thing the game has going for it. Very beautiful work ^^
Lol no it doesn't 343 has never understood halo and never will. Horrendous map design in every halo not having a dedicated ranked slayer Playlist and forcing objective based game modes no halo player ever liked lol. Like you could tell the halo franchise was going to die when 343 added jet packs and load outs in reach and it's on the dev team as much as leadership.
May as well, no physical release was made to be special or sentimental to own. We got 3 hours notice of the special console release and now account holder pre order, just here ya go scalpers. I'm nearly done with the Xbox brand.
It’s ironic, as much as there have been games that over the years have labelled themselves as “halo killer”, the real halo killer might end up being halo itself.
Funny isn't it? The ones to kill massive, successful franchises were those franchises themselves. Well, maybe delusional upper management and incompetent, passionless staff would be more correct. Halo is dead, WoW is dead, CoD is shit, Battlefield is dead, Gears of War is dead, Saint's Row just recently buried itself, you wouldn't give a shit about Ubisoft games in a million years. MGS and Silent Hill? Dead. Final Fantasy franchise? Laughably mediocre. Most Sony owned japanese studios? Dead. This is a gamepocalypse and only few companies manage to churn out something competent and even they are becoming mired in controversies and making bad news.
@@Shiroi0moi No, the ones who "killed" those franchises were gamers themselves. We allowed microtransactions, and said "oh but it's just cosmetics" We allowed preorders and said "Oh, it's just this one time". We allowed games being launched in a half baked state "Oh, but it's good 1 year later". Do i need to go on? If your looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror.
@@Orcawhale1 Yeah, I'm not the one hiring people to fill diversity quotas and bringing in top executives that only ever worked in movie production companies and haven't touched a video game in their lives. Sure, complacent, half witted consumer is the one who allows this shit to happen, but the companies themselves are the ones that pushed all those harmful business practices in the first place and hapless, soulless devs that work because they couldn't find anything better for a career, who actively call their consumers "ungrateful chuds" are also to carry the blame for ruining gaming. It's a complex set of issues, but I prefer to shit on people who are forcing me to buy a game full price and then pushing dlc's and mtx and also calling me a racist and mysoginist for no reason but for wanting a good game. Fuck them.
"This is a roadmap for what they're aiming for..." - Exactly everything wrong with the AAA gaming industry today. They aim, they strive, but they just don't have what it takes to deliver.
I think of it more of what’s wrong with customers. Image any other product being sold half-complete but the seller says “well here a roadmap of how the product will work at the end”. I’m not going to blame companies for duping easily fooled customers.
@@BoredPodcaster These days lying in a commercial is part of free speech. Maybe it different in other places but in the US there almost no protection for a false claim and it happens way more often than you think.
@@TNTITAN I live in the US, and false advertising isn't protected speech as far as the market goes. The difference today is most people won't sue because most people can't afford to do so, and those with enough money to do so are probably involved or have a stake in it somehow.
They do what you allow them to get away with. I don't give them money because clearly thats all they care about. The gaming community is full of naive wishful thinkers
I always come back to this video because I feel the same way. The winter update was exciting to me until tonight. I actually sat there and wondered why I’m even giving infinite my time.
Hats off to you. I lasted all of 2 weeks before I realized I was playing a beta. The lack of content/creativity shows me this was their last ditch effort to make a ton of money off the halos reputation. Rip halo. You will be missed.
You guys remember when Halo Reach had so many game modes you’d literally never run out of content? With a beautiful menu, a satisfying upgrade system, LOBBIES THAT STAYED AFTER MATCHES. You guys remember as kids seeing that one player with a ghost helmet and being like wow this guy is so cool lemme send him a friend request? Halo used to have so much life, so much community, such a reason to invest. Weekly challenges, firefight, forge, swat, infection, big team battle, capture the flag, oddball, griffball, coop campaign, it was… perfection, and it was over a decade ago
This is exactly how I feel. How the hell does an 11 year old game have more content then one released last year? It's to the point now where I'm past the anger and it's just sadness. Halo used to be so much fun.
Why does 343 get so much heat but Xbox doesn't? Xbox oversees all of this. Ultimately its on them. 343 made 4, 5 and Infinite. When does xbox step in and correct this
@@garedbi Oh ya higher ups can be road blocks. I think people thinking the devs of every gaming disaster as "angels" is misleading. While devs if not part of abig corporation can be passionet say indie games. Alot of devs in triple A might be burnt out leading to cutting some corners and lack of caring because they are just trying to get a pay check at the end of the day. Just like Corpos are just seeking profits. Similarly to how sometimes gamers still preorder in this day and age. Thus The gaming industry being bad can have all sides of the problem be blamed in a sense.
Ten years ago Halo was one of the biggest franchises out there. Everyone knew who Master Chief was like they knew who Mario was. He was the face of gaming. What 343 has done to this franchise is awful.
@@jouille4524 i mean if I didnt roll with xbox as my selected console and wasnt too poor or stupid to know how to buy/set up a computer as a kid I probably wouldnt know who masterchief was either.
I remember when my brother got an Xbox 360 for his birthday, he woke me up at like 3am and we played halo 4 all night. Sucks they never got split screen figured out
The bad part about this is that splitscreen co-op totally works. It's literally 90% done, aside from some glitches and a little needed polish it works from beginning to end. There's no good reason to scrap a feature that is this far into development.
i have a preety good idea why it was scrapped. Split screen is not a hard feature to implement,hell it existed for decades So it was probably assigned to 1 guy,or a very small group. Aaand my best guess was that the person in charge of doing the split screen left the company before finishing it,so managment decided to scrap it cuz why would they try to assign resources to that. Managment in 343 seems completely fucked atm and it clearly shows that most of them are not competent enouggh to be in that position and are probably alien to the halo franchise
I'll tell you what it is, it's probably the fact that we're still trying to make this compatible to OG 2012 Xbox One Hardware, so to make sure the thing is still chugging along, split screen got cancelled for everybody, so it wouldn't blow up the console.
Once again proving why you are the true voice of the Halo community thank you for making sure our voices are heard and hopefully we can inspire change for our favorite fps franchise
@@TheActMan People might forget, but when halo 5 came out people were gaslighting the halo fanbase and saying they are overreacting and the game is great! Other youtubers "HaloWaypoint" "halo xphirea" were pretending it was great. Here comes 3k subs actman making a 5 part series about how horrible halo 5 was and he didn't hold his punches. This is why i stuck with you all these years after that 1 video. Im so happy you turned into such a champ.
It's so sad to the point that it's sort of impressive that 343i is struggling to build core Halo features Bungie mastered 10+ years ago. I have pretty much completely given up on the series.
Yo Walshy! Just wanted to say thanks for hosting all those halo montages, you propped up a big part of the prime halo community. Left a permanent mark on game culture too. I still go back to Dualtality every now and again lol
The moment we were told, "Co-op is dead," when Halo 5 released, I became pretty convinced that this was part of some 10 year buisness plan to phase out local co-op. I think the idea is to try to force people to buy the game themselves, rather than have the _sheer_ audacity to play at someone else's house. Considering I have always played Halo games with my brother and we grew up playing games with our uncles (and still do), I'm calling this line of thinking: bullshit.
@@kyotheman69 Oh yes. My brother and I haven't touched Halo 5 and beyond. They said our bonding time was dead, so we just took it (and our money) elsewhere.
Gears 5 has split screen even on PC. Halo 1 is over 20 years old and ran on a 64mb celeron 733mhz cpu. There is 0 excuse not to have split screen. besides greed
Playing Halo Infinite during the beta and launch period was some of the most fun I’ve ever had playing Halo, and now I can’t play more than a few matches without getting bored out of my mind
I was really enjoying the campaign then halfway through I just stopped and never felt like going back. My brain realized that it was boring and the story was lame. I just liked grappling around everywhere
@@mysteriousastrolabe Excuse me? Odst and Reach are absolute bangers. Halo 2 will always be my favorite, but I'm comparing a 10 out of a 10 to other 10s. Halo C.E, Halo 2, Halo 3, ODST, REACH are perfect. You're crazy to think otherwise.
As soon as I read "live service" " ten year plan" "micro transaction" I knew there was a high likelihood that infinite could be the death of Halo. It's incredibly saddening.
Splitscreen is how my dad and I played Halo together back in the day, and we were both saddened by the fact that we couldn't do that with Halo 5. Then Infinite was announced to have Splitscreen on launch, and I told my dad "hey dad-we can play Infinite together at least" and he agreed... And then Infinite launched with no splitscreen... I was upset and told my dad about that-he just shook his head in dissapointment. Then come to find out splitscreen is just cancelled entirely, and it just felt like a giant slap in the face. Complete and utter ignorance is what the decision to remove splitscreen was based upon-nothing more. So many people were looking forward to this-far more than some realize
100% I remember playing all the halos co-op with my best friends, completing halo 2 legendary with my buddy after an all nighter. I just had a similar experience but with FF crystal chronicles I played that with my cousin for years, bought the remastered version and no local play...
Yep same exact story with me and my dad actually. I have fond memories of playing halo as a kid with my dad, was excited to experience it again. Almost bought an Xbox after 15 years of not having one to play with him. Glad I didn't waste that money
@@gillboy131 Yeah my dad and I were considerring splitting money to get a Series X for splitscreen Infinite... Didn't happen just yet, and probablu not ever unless this awful decision by 343 is reversed
Act Man, you shouldn’t take 343 not inviting you to early access and events personally. You’re the voice of the people, people’s champ. That’s worth more than being on the good side of a company with shady and unprofessional business practices.
It's funny how obviously clear who is on 343's bitch list. You see plenty of TH-camrs who downplay and give them a pass over and over again, and it's kinda disgusting how they shill so hard for a clearly bad studio.
maybe little late, but I am done with Halo as well! 343 has no respect to gamers and gaming community as a whole ,,they promised but they cancelled it! My son and I spent $800 Xbox series X with 2 years of ultimate game pass and we told each other we would play together like playing First Halo when me scoped and my son fired the cannon from the tank - it was so fun!! Until my son now 13 years old told me a few months ago 343 cancelled, even told me "they cheated us dad" - I feel 343 is really bunch of disrespectful adults and not worth for buying any game from them - They do not keep the promise!
It really hurts. I’ve been a Halo fan since I could hold the controller, just sitting in the warthog while my brother beat Halo 3 was enough for me. It’s such a shame to see it crash and burn like this…
"It dosen't matter how a game launches it just matter where it ends up" Look I'm not here to say what people should and shouldn't do. I AM here to say however, that we shouldn't let Todd Howard be right. Todd Howard being right hurts gaming and the industry for everyone
Agreed, the abuse of post-launch updates is disgusting, bug fixes and additional content is fine but the game should be complete at launch, NO exceptions or excuses, especially for such a high profile game.
Yeah it's a bad take. like with no man's sky, I keep hearing "oh but its good now!" If it wasn't good at release or soon after release it's forever bad. I come from a time where games came finished
@@jetmcgee4218 I give NMS a pass because while what you say is true, they were definitely reaching beyond what they could get at the time. But now after all these years, they've delivered on their promises and provided more than they originally promised all without a single paid DLC or microtransaction. It would have been so easy for them to take the money and run, or deliver sub par updates. But they show clear passion and love for their game and that's what we need more of today. Does it excuse the launched NMS? No. Does it mean we can forgive Hello Games for going above and beyond? Yes. I think so.
@@jetmcgee4218 That's a bit pessimistic. Sure, the game should've been MUCH better at launch and shouldn't have come with so many broken promises, but I feel like calling No Man's Sky a game that's "forever bad" is a bit of an exaggeration. And a bit unfair considering all of the improvements that came after its release. Still should've been good on launch, but that doesn't mean that it didn't improve.
Match xp beta is the most telling part. They are so afraid of accidentally being too rewarding, even for just a few days before any potential adjustments/nerfs, they have to beta test it.
I think Griffin Gaming put it best in one of his newest videos: “The only people on planet Earth that could literally do the worst job possible and sit around doing nothing all day while still getting paid are either 343 employees or the Congress”
@JC Denton Apex is pretty popular while halo is doing worse than battlefield 2042... I can imagine EA are really pleased with their cash cow and the apex fans actually. like. the. game. mad right?
For years, every time someone asked me why I still had an Xbox I’d say “because Halo”… but that hasn’t really been a good answer for about a decade now. I uninstalled Infinite back in February and have been watching it whither and die from the sidelines. It’s so depressing what they did to Halo.
So true man. I've really been considering moving to PS. If not for game pass and the fact it's impossible to get your hands on a PS5 I prob would have already done so.
The fact that we literally had to glitch in campaign club is fucking abysmal can’t you goddamn money, hungry companies give us these fucking features instead of seeing us as mindless sheep that gives you money?
This hurts man. You've been one of the biggest streamers of Halo content and one of the franchises biggest fans. Halo has sank so low that even their diehard fans are leaving them.
He said he’s done with Halo Infinite, not Halo altogether. And with that lead recently leaving and people with a better track-record taking her spot, we’ll likely see Act Man at the next Halo game, 1 that is better managed
I am as profoundly hurt by the greed and stupidity of 343 executives as every die-hard _Halo_ fans. My beef is mostly with the way the lore was handled since the latter half of the last decade. The dumbing down of the lore, the MCU-isation of the tone, the sheer incoherence and retardation of the latest canonical developments have worned out my soul. My mental health is literally worse because of it. They should've hired Greg Bear as the chief scenarist. The lore would at least have been salvaged. They could've hired Neil Blomkamp as the showrunner for the TV show and make it a new exciting addition to the established lore. But nope! They had to trash it. There is no justification for these idiotic and retarded decisions. The only reason they do it is because they get away with it, they get their paycheck and they don't have to care one bit about the consequences and ramifications of their actions. Even if the game sucked, we could've had our _Halo_ fix through other media. But nope. They had to thoroughly ruin it all. There is *NOTHING* , absolutely *NOTHING* 343 has touched at this point that hasn't been run into the mud and bastardized. I am so angry, bitter, disappointed and sad. In fact, I am grieving the slow agonizing death of my beloved franchise and what it could've been. RIP _Halo_ (2001-2015) *Nothing* past _Halo 5: Guardians_ is part of my headcanon. I literally regard *ANY* post-2015 lore development as non-canon. I regard what 343 has done a personal injury and insult. They could still fix it! That's the worst part! It's not too late! But they won't. I have seen no willingness in the last six years to make amends for the damage they've done to _Halo_ and I have absolutely no hope that they ever will. I wish _Halo_ died with some measure of dignity in 2015. At least, we could tell ourselves we had a decent run.
@@zayIrwin Oh, they'll make another game, I'm certain of it. But it'll be trash and not worth our attention one bit. I'm already *NOT* looking forward to the next game and I already declare that I will *NOT* play the next _Halo_ game.
@@christianmartinez9751 There will be no better managed _Halo_ game. The standards are rapidly plummeting and there is no reason to expect things to magically change overnight. It's what it is.
Seriously those few weeks after when the multiplayer beta dropped. It really felt like halo was back. Friends I’ve been playing with since CE were back online…… and now we’re here…
@JC Denton ig we're all entitled to our own interpretations of what is good, bad, right and wrong. I just don't like how fans of the game are more passionate than the devs, but it's the nature of a franchise as old as halo to get bogged down, corporatized, and passionless. Agree to disagree my friend
As a guy who grew up playing Halo, and who had high hopes for Infinite, I'm extremely saddened by the state of Infinite and how 343 just can't get things right no matter what. Great video as always :)
did you all forget the og gameplay trailer where y’all got craig from?? let alone the other 2 dumpster fire games, it was clear this game was gonna be no different.
@@yoursecrxt lol I said that all along and all I got was “stop pre-judging what you haven’t even played” and “those graphical bugs in the gameplay reveal will be fixed by release” (referring to the original launch date of late 2020, which never happened and was delayed an entire year which I also predicted lol). Now look at everyone’s reactions. It was obvious this game was going to be yet another of 343’s steaming piles of trash, but everyone was just too blinded by nostalgia and hype to see it.
Honestly Act Man, you're the voice of a lot of Halo fans in my opinion. I grew up playing split-screen Halo campaigns, on legendary, with my best friend that's no longer with us. Just two dudes with physical disabilities trying to save humanity and have a few laughs along the way. And I cherish those memories, sitting in his room together and playing Halo CE, 2, 3, and Reach together. It makes me sad that 343 has basically said fuck you to people who want to create memories exactly like the ones I value more than any possession I own. I wish things were different for 343 and Halo since Bungie left. But I'm grateful I was around for the golden era, and I'm grateful someone like you can speak so elegantly for someone like me
I'm sorry to hear you lost your friend and gaming buddy. The anniversary of Reach dropping reminded me of the times in college when I would play Halo with one of my best friends who also passed and it brought up so many memories together. I do wish we could go back to the days where Halo was both a party game and a competitive one too. Even Nintendo can toe the line with Smash Bros making stages and options for both competitive and casual fun modes, it's sad Microsoft and 343 can't get their act together.
When halo infinite released, I haven’t played halo in my life until that time and I was like “cool free game” got bored after 2-3 weeks and dropped it, not so long ago I buoyed the MCC and played the original trilogy for the first time, and halo 2 might be one of the best campaigns I’ve played in a shooter ever, now I fully understand the anger of the community.
@IGogetaX10I my first experience was Halo 4 which I actually enjoyed the story in 2012 and I got the MCC Christmas 2014 and the night of Christmas Eve I remember playing Halo 2 campaign I still remember that night
yea i dont really like this trend of youtubers saying "i blame the management, the common devs for sure work hard". sure ultimately its managements fault since they recruit and hire people (and make sure the good workers stay or rile them up to leave), but when you look at 343i its not hard to imagine a lot of the common workers are halo fans who dont know anything about game making. you cant believe its just managers strangling competent devs when everything gets delayed or comes out half-there. devs have a huge blame and im sure there are plenty who say "who plays split-screen anyway?"
my first experience with videogames was when me and my dad we’re playing outside and we were exhausted and heated, then I remember he said “let’s go inside and play some halo” and I was like “halo? what’s that?” we played halo in split screen and I was amazed how fun it was
It’s enough to bring a tear to gamers eyes. 343 heard that they were being called the worst developer right now and said “We can be worse than that hold our beer” It’s like running a race in the wrong direction.
@@NoNameTaken117 Worst one under Xbox right now, but Rare is in a very close 2nd right now But since Rare are assisting with Goldeneye, & Perfect Dark hoping that means they are going back to form and eventually will make multiple teams to make Rare games that are new Franchises and also existing dormant IP too
@@Yeti_Talks Bro people are free to whine about whatever they want, it's a franchise we care about and it's gone to shit, stop defending this pathetic excuse of a company
"game devolpment is hard, but it cant be THAT hard" has to be something ive been shouting for the last few years at every triple A game. Its fucking wierd, why are games with smaller studios so much better at getting content made, why are modders wio work for free able to make shit at 10x the pace AND 10x the quality. I really dont understand.
I have a buddy who works cinematics at 343. According to him, just about everyone involved with the main creative team was either let go or has quit. Apparently, their equipment is outdated and the company refuses to give them the help/tools they need to turn out new content. Now they're filling the gaps with temp contract works and inconsistent/bad design, causing multiple restarts. Their leadership has no vision as they jump from problem to problem with no clear idea of what they want the game to actually be.
I wonder, why is contract work bigger than the main team a thing anyway? You expect contract work to be for content like new maps and cosmetic, and not just... basically the whole game.
@@Revkor yeah, I almost wonder whether microsoft has a hand in that type of problem, most likely both. Literally screw the AAA studio's practice of being giant pieces of shit about everything.
2004 Bungie: "We have hidden the scarab gun somewhere in a map, you have to glitch out a bit and do gimmicks with a banshee to get it!" 2021 343i: "haha, noobs, we have hidden CO-OP! , you have to glitch out the game to have the co-op splitscreen somewhere in the code! try playing it now!"
It's wild how much games companies are getting away with these days. I've been boycotting blizzard games since their employees walked out bc of Bobby Kotick's behavior. Looks like I'll add 343 to the list. It completely blows my mind that AAA companies can't even do the bare minimum while indie developers are making the best games. We need to vote with our dollars, people.
It's the only way really. And the sad part is they'll abandon the ip for a few years then hype it back up. Creativity isn't a money maker, push out title after title is the motive.
Loads of my friends still play hearthstone. And obviously a lot still play WoW. Unfortunately when overwatch 2 actually launches it will have a bunch of players too who just can’t say no to more Overwatch. It’s really annoying but lots of people just don’t care.
So, as much as I've been playing Halo since 2012-13, I don't really understand what is it that the halo community is missing? (It's cause I never played halo multiplayer up until either 2019 or 2021). Is it Halo's identity as Xbox's titan killer app, or important things like forge and split screen campaign coop being launched in day 1? I can understand the frustration on both sides, but idk which one? Am I missing something?
@@angelfilms4886 It's the latter. No one cares if it's Xbox's killer app or not, it will be Xbox's killer app if the game is great and actually finished by launch day. (I'm a PC halo player since 2002) Halo revolutionized the FPS genre and gave us memories from the early 2000's that nothing else did, and 343 has just wiped their ass with the franchise to make a quick buck. I don't want to buy an unfinished game and then be given a roadmap for when they'll actually finish it. Splitscreen, forge, CUSTOM GAMES, good maps, the most amazing story from an FPS game; that whole legacy is just being shat on. The games are still mostly fun and that gives us hope, which makes the dissapointment even worse.
Damn. I've been seeing the replies and, it must've been awful not been able to experience the fun stuff of a new halo game (especially, at launch day). I remember my father got us an Xbox one in 2016, iirc, just to play halo mcc and halo 5, and I remember that, with halo mcc, I kinda had a bad feeling about halo mcc (mostly cause it didn't have halo reach), but I mostly had fun with what it had with my older brother (and no, we didn't play online multiplayer at the time). And, after that, we havent played it for years up till halo reach came out on mcc. But, with Halo 5, I was super letdown, cause it didn't have split screen campaign coop, and I couldn't play the campaign with my older brother. And now, I can't even play campaign coop with both my little sister and my older brother :"V. So, yeah, the winter update does pique my interest a little bit, but what's the point, tho? I stopped playing halo infinite for months, and I was playing other games, including mcc. So, yeah, it's safe to say that they should give halo to another developer thay deserve it. I suppose a Halo game from Respawn would be nice, but idk (*cough* EA *cough*)
I remember skipping a dance in middle school to have an all night LAN+Split screen party the night Halo 3 released. These are the kind of Halo memories I miss. Other content creators just don’t make constructive criticism entertaining quite like you do ActMan! Please keep up the content
I've had so many great memories with the Halo franchise and especially Halo 3 ! I was hoping that Halo: Infinite would bring new fans and loyal old fans back to the game and it DID... for a short period of time. I went out of my way to buy a Halo: Infinite limited edition Xbox Series X to spoil my little brother for Christmas. He was stoked about it, but he was sad that we couldn't play together AT ALL... not even on 2 separate consoles ! When I heard about the cancellation of split-screen co-op, that ember of what was left for me and my excitement with the Halo franchise is now gone. Thank you 343i for making the gaming franchise that grew the Xbox brand turn into a pile of failed potential.
The situation becomes really dumb when you realise that split screen was basically finished, but 343 couldn't be bothered to iron out the bugs in order to make good on their promises!
@@mup8661 That is difficult to believe. The reality is that this is a feature that only a small minority of people will use. Most people would find it difficult to have to go back to playing games with just 1/4 of the television screen. I don't think that would have sold additional consoles, especially given that supply has only recently caught up to demand.
@@captainthunderbolt7541 Split screen co-op is a huge part of the culture of the franchise. I don't play anything split screen, rarely play co-op. But was really looking forward to playing Infinite co-op with my wife. I would have to disagree with you that only a small minority of players would have utilized it. In most games, sure but split screen Halo campaign was always something special.
@@ljunderground I wasn't trying to diminish the importance of split screen. I know that it is very important to the hardcore fanbase - but I just think that demographic is a small enough niche that Microsoft didn't really stand to materially benefit in console sales by withholding the feature.
@@captainthunderbolt7541 Ah ok yeah I see what you mean. It definitely more than likely is just due to a lack of execution on 343's part. And from my perspective it seems like a lack of passion/understanding from the leadership team.
343 is like the high school kid who had 6 months to complete a book report and decided the night before to finally start working on it. Except instead of a high schooler, it’s grown ass adults paid six figure salaries and instead of 6 months, they had fucking 6 years.
Ironic that Bonnie Ross would step down after I had this video set to publish while I'm on vacation. Still, not sure what to think.
Do I boycott/stop playing a game because promises were made that weren't kept? What if those promises were made by people no longer with the company? Not sure how to feel about it tbh.
But I'm still tired of talking about this game. We'll see what the future holds. I hope Forge is fun
Heads at 343 got pop off at least with the back clash also why an animatronic was for 15 years at the head of 343
Ps one of the new heads is the one who saved MCC so maybe he will bring back coop we have to wait.
Move on, new Fortnite season will be out soon. Get hype
Forge will obviously be fun cus you know, the players make the content
The lead engineer in charge of the engine just left too.
Nah man you just gotta go play Destiny. Lmao.
To 343: Your inability to safeguard Halo was a colossal failure.
Nay, it was _heresy!_
S tier comment
Halo fans are some of the cringiest most unfunny people on the internet
…that’s lasted for 10 years now.
@@Toni-ic7ki not true, but okay
This video goes HARD. And is AMAZING.
Thanks boss!
500 Million dollar game, 1 year of delay, and still they manage to ruin everything, what a joke is 343.
He really dropped a fucking bombshell here 🤣 I love how Acting male does not give a single fuck anymore
This video go hard feel free to screenshot
@@TheActMan Act man the bots are imitating you
Some of my best gaming memories were from Halo 2 and Halo 3. I’d play Rainbow Six Black arrow/Vegas as well, but if you say “Xbox” halo is what used to come to mind.
I was so hyped for infinite but I haven’t touched it in months. The lack of content makes you feel like “yeah I’ve been here before” and it’s such a shame.
Bruh did not expect to see you here, that is awesome
Same man
Had to do a double take when I saw who posted, crazy my only two content viewerships overlapped
I was hyped too, I hadn’t played a Halo consistently since Halo 3, where I got introduced to the series. Me and my friends still play it a little bit, but we can only get a couple games in before we get extremely bored and decide to go into a custom game or just go play Fortnite.
I remember when rainbow six was just as good as cod, battlefield and halo. At least someone remembers Vegas
Thank you for standing up for couch co-op. I feel cheated out of the experience we were promised, and once had.
The complete infinite experience
Xbox Series S cant run current gen games in splitscreen, it's not anyone's fault
Xbox One X (A LAST GEN CONSOLE) has more RAM than Xbox Series S (a "current" gen console). I'm gonna say it again, Xbox One X had 12GB of RAM, Series S has 10GB of RAM, and only 8GB usable because things like "quick resume" are oh so important in this adhd generation.
Memory is very KEY when it comes to how ambitious devs can be when making a game
@@victory7763 I honestly love the Series S because of how easy it is to fit into a backpack and the hardware just looks so solid and well-built. That being said the 512GB SSD size, 4TFLOPS of GPU power and 10GB of VRAM... yeah Microsoft screwed the pooch on that one.
BTW it's 10GB of GDDR6 vs 12GB of GDDR5 on the One X. So it's not a fair comparison.
@@victory7763And yes, Quick Resume is absolutely a fantastic feature. Like wtf are you even talking about LOL
@@israelhammans7329I think you mean incomplete lmao
I knew we were in trouble when the multiplayer “beta” was over and it wasn’t any different then the actual game. I was like “this is it???”
We got trolled.
That was always the plan. Sigh.
i was so confused and disapointed at the same time
No “beta” ever is any different
The vibes always indicated that it was going to be sub par. The most money spent on the least amount of content ever. It has to be a world record or something.
The “tearing down the different communities” is the realest point ever man. I was soooo pumped to play team slayer, shotty snipes & ranked swat off the rip when this game dropped. When I saw what they offered.. and what they are offering now, I’m actually astounded at the stupidity of this company.
They also killed the ability to make new communities. Grifball is just an assault variant, and they’ve totally neglected assault.
I just wanted to play infected. Such a disappointment.
I uninstalled with no regrets early on. Not surprised it didn’t change much. I remember I couldn’t even get into a BTB match lmao. Such a joke
As a casual once and awhile player of Halo (not a super fan yet) I was wondering what are the biggest grievances you guys have with this game? I’ve heard that it’s absolutely awful and was wondering how bad it could possibly be.
I was hyped to drop into a f2p Team Slayer dude. Not having it meant I was out immediately. And I imagine a majority of players just quit right there.
I agree with everything you said here
Yes
Nice 👍🙂
concordo
Agree
This aged insanely well
Oh yeah
explain plz
@@Hutchyy it aged extremely well
@@haydenk6459 Thanks
I wish it hadn't
Our boy looks the brightest he ever has while talking about Halo’s darkest hour
Fr like 343 Flashed him and he instead talks about the problems about their half ass game
It’s all about the hair man
@JC Denton it's something he cares about. Simple. He wants it to be good. And in a sea of content creators constantly bigging 343 up and defending them, we need larger content creators calling for change and for 343 to fix their shit.
@JC Denton kind of funny how much of a fanboy you are
@JC Denton so you don’t play halo and yet here you are complaining that a halo TH-camr isn’t making the content you want. Are you slow in the head or something?
“We all fail, we all make mistakes. It’s what makes us human.”
-343 Dev after putting out new update
I seem to remember Bungie not making mistakes like these
@@judeyovichin7326 I get that people loved bungie we should for halo. But bungie wanted to leave halo and wanted it to end to move on. Bungie was never perfect enough (no one is) (corrected I didn’t mean to make it seem like bungie wasn’t great I meant to express the idea that bungie still wanted to give halo up regardless and that even the best studios can’t always keep a great game great. Maybe some of you are correct if bungie ended halo on a high note maybe there wouldn’t be all this now. But there also might not be a halo game be for better or worse). But it’s so shitttt that 343 have continuously downgraded. I pray the new management can do an mcc turn around.
@@crusader7eth163 they at least left after making some great games. 343 is still making shit games and they aren't fired or anything.
@@crusader7eth163 I don't think Bungie wanted to leave Halo behind.
only if you do your honest best to fix mistakes, aknowledge them and do your honest best to prevent them. and don't stand in the way of more capable people, but support them.
making excuses for your own destructivity just makes you a monster.
Crazy how 343 dropped the ball with this one. They had all the good will and motivaton from the fans. I remember last year when everyone was so hyped around release and the first month had positive vibes DESPITE all the delays and cut features.
Halo fans really were a very forgiving and generous fanbase with 343.
And then the company just mismanaged the shit out of Infinite.
You don’t enjoy Infinite over Halo 4 and 5? I personally enjoy Infinite leaps and bounds over both.
@@Harbingeruprisingofficial at the time of release yes but the campaign gets old and repetitive real fast and once you've done it it has no replay value unlike the other games.
@@stevenborg102 oh wow, I’m on my fourth co-op replay amongst friends. Each with different game variations. Hoping to 100% achievement on one of my slots
@@stevenborg102Xbox Series S cant run current gen games in splitscreen, it's not anyone's fault
Xbox One X (A LAST GEN CONSOLE) has more RAM than Xbox Series S (a "current" gen console). I'm gonna say it again, Xbox One X had 12GB of RAM, Series S has 10GB of RAM, and only 8GB usable because things like "quick resume" are oh so important in this adhd generation.
Memory is very KEY when it comes to how ambitious devs can be when making a game
Reply 5, halo 7 will drop the marble
343: The technology just doesn’t exist
Act Man: Here’s your technology right here. I’ve simply asked you to create maps in a reasonable time
343: Ok sir that’s what we’re trying to do, but honestly, it’s impossible
Act Man: HARDY LEBEL WAS ABLE TO BUILD RAT RACE IN A CAVE! WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS!
343: But..we’re not Hardy Lebel
@@dumlord1581 they really do be like those dysfunctional people at stark industries without tony
BOX OF SCHRAPS
@Flare The irony of people in a nutshell. I honestly thought Halo 6 would fail when Halo 5 was released. And I was right. I hate being right sometimes.
Okay I gotta hand it to you, that's a good reference. Favorite scene from Iron man 1.
Don’t make a Halo fan a promise, if you know you can’t keep it…
Should have listened to Cortana instead of turning her evil (I know that’s a halo 5 issue, but still).
They could have. They chose not to.
Sounds similar to when courting a girl
Foreshadowing at its finest.
343i: You know me… when I make a promise…
Fans: You don’t… ship it.
Them cancelling split screen when they guaranteed that they will have it after the game has already launched is disgusting.
Reasons not to pre order games
Honestly it should be grounds for every single person who bought it for consoles to demand their money back.
@@GeoStreber 100% Agree. It was blatant lie
fr I wanted split screen
Evil stuff
My favourite thing about this whole "343 not giving a fuck" impression is that you can literally see the armours which are not available yet in the armour hall; you can see the armours and the player can demo the armour on them when you hover over it. You just can't unlock or buy it yet, and you need to wait until 343 release it as part of a new season, even though it literally is right there.
The assets exists. You can demo it on your body. Why not just fucking release it when it's clearly ready? They delay things that should have already be in the game and have existed from the start of launch in order to inflate the content in their staggered season launches.
Also, most of the armour in this game look like dog shit. The Mark V core has a serious texture issue on both shoulders where everything looks stretched and bad, and they still haven't fixed it. You still cannot customise armour on your feet, shins, calves, glutes or thighs/quads, most armour pieces clip through each other, chest armour pieces are lazy (they just plonk a dull looking knife on the default chest armour and call it a legendary) the texture quality of these assets are PS3 tier, all armour have these odd looking orange glowing parts, and the lighting looks very off and dull. Legendary paints look less impressive than lower tier ones often, and you cannot remove the scratches or rust/dirt/mud/dust off of the armour.
I would have thought you could apply a layering system with the pristine paint as the base, then sliders for battle-worn scratches, mud and other layering on top to get the look you want.
This is something so easy to implement as a developer.
Also, there are no assassinations in the game, which Reach had literally 12 years ago, which means the only time you see your character's cool armour is when you die, which is negative reinforcement. I basically get to see my cool armour only when I'm annoyed cause I died, not when I'm doing a cool assassination.
The armours are all modular, which means the assets can be edited individually retroactively and the changes should propagate across the game, yet these assets are never revisited by the developers/artists and reworked to fix issues, increase poly count or improve on the design and how they line up with the rest of the armour pieces, and the new assets/armour/cores from new seasons look better than the launch items, which creates a skew in terms of graphics. Half the stuff in your inventory looks blocky and shit, and all the new stuff looks much better, yet no one is going back and improving the old stuff to match.
There is still no DLSS or RTX in this game, which is an expectation at this point, and you can't see your feet if you increase your FOV, even though you can for other Halo games with the same FOV.
It's a complete joke. This game is a soulless money grab in every way imaginable.
I really believed in Halo Infinite and that I'd be playing it for 10 years straight with all the "live service" campaign DLC content that I thought was coming. I thought that's what "Infinite" meant. I must've misunderstood something. It's disappointing. I wish they'd just called it Halo 6 and left it at that. Anyway, I'll always love Halo.
Me too man. I thought there would be content and service and a full damn game for having paid the full price. Also, remember the Reach-style armor customization? Instead we got a paywall. Fuck 343i, those guys are lying faithless dogs.
How old are you? destiny launched in 2014 and they said the same thing about that, if you believe this garbage you deserve to get burned
Halo Infinite disappointment
Heyo. Nice to see you commenting on this as well
Hahaha you my friend, are an absolute fool.
Killing splitcreen was the nail in the coffin for me. Couch coop was an integral part of my love for halo. Me and a bunch of buddies hop on the couch, one friend brings a few extra controllers and we’re up till 3am having the time of our lives. Halo hasn’t really felt the same since then.
Same man I feel the same 😞 I miss those old days it breaks my heart.
Idem. I wanna play this with my girldfriend and nope. Fuck 343 im out
Same here. A friend and I were awaiting for that feature to finally jump into Infinite because split-screen co-op Halo is part of our DNA at this point. So sad.
@@Sgto.Wolvington Same man 😔
Let’s be honest, when was the last time anyone has played a game couch coop?
I want to see a 90 minute documentary about how 343 mismanaged one of the greatest gaming franchises to ever exist with a bunch of insider info. It would be really interesting
More like a mockumentary
There is one. Look up "343 industries versus the world" by Macrostyle on TH-cam. It covers mostly everything from 343i's inception to just before Infinite's release.
More like depressing and maddening
play the 343 halo games
Let's get gvmers on it!!
i think the only reason they canceled split screen at this point, is to force you to buy another console for your brother/sister/daughter/son whatever, and thats bad because they are expensive
Thats what I hate about Microsoft and why ill be going playstation, they get you with these little tactics of forcing you to pay extra. Much like how they make controllers so they break easily opposed to the long lasting 360. I hate when people love seeing Xbox and Playstation come together, their rivalry and competition in the 00's was what made the next console amazing, they had to compete with each other. Now they know they'll get a massive audience and just try to squeeze money out of the consumer for profit.
Gotta find a way to peddle bullshit consoles that people just arent interested in buying anymore. The console industry is absolutely fucked at this point. People have figured out that building computers isnt rocket science and that they dont have to replace it every 5 years because its become an antiquated useless pos. Thats the killing blow.
@@mast3rchief536 imagine being dumb enough to think sony is any better. Your problem is wasting money on consoles. Not the company making the console.
@@mast3rchief536. I own Switch, Series X, and Ps5. I only got Series X cause I have about a decade's worth of 360 and One games. I much prefer my Ps5 over the X. People praise Gamepass when Microsoft have been fumbling since the end of the 360 with Kinect. Series X will be my final Xbox console cause the Xbox games are just trash anymore. Epic and Bungie poured their hearts into Gears of War and Halo. The Coalition and 343 Industries have shown that they are in it for the money only
@@mast3rchief536 Idk about you, but I've never broken an Xbox One nor Series X controller, but I have broken multiple 360 controllers.
I hope they do a documentary on how badly this was managed
They will it will be released in year 2090 (subject to change)
Crowbat has something in the works about 343. :)
@@kanden27 Again? Sony makes the worst decisions in recent times the dude won't do shit, Microsoft fucks something up and he shows up lol
I just don't understand why nobody has held these adults accountable for this long
@@thebadwolf3088 so? Their mistakes aren’t *nearly* as big, bad, or meme worthy as Microsoft’s screwups; so you saying “w-what about PLAYSTATION??” makes you come off as a fanboy.
You guys remember when Halo Reach had so many game modes you’d literally never run out of content? With a beautiful menu, a satisfying upgrade system, LOBBIES THAT STAYED AFTER MATCHES. You guys remember as kids seeing that one player with a ghost helmet and being like wow this guy is so cool lemme send him a friend request? Halo used to have so much life, so much community, such a reason to invest. Weekly challenges, firefight, forge, swat, infection, big team battle, capture the flag, oddball, griffball, coop campaign, it was… perfection, and it was over a decade ago
I remember playing reach and there would always be new maps being introduced. Reach was awesome
Never forget bungie blessing us with invasion, Reach will forever be under appreciated. Aside from how you feel about the armour abilities or whatever to me that was peak halo
bro you could launch any mode in halo reach and have so much fun i played more on community made maps then the regular maps. its honestly gut wrenching to not be able to sit down and play halo reach
And I remember people shit on reach during that time, now I bet they wish they could go back to that time.
Bro you’re just talking about nostalgia lol
343 has done one thing successfully with infinite, they’ve united the community but not how we hoped, they’ve united every halo fan against them
Their own creation will be their own demise
Get outta my walls
I've literally been saying since they released 4 that they would continue to ruin Halo. I have never been proved wrong. The company is rotten to the core. The Halo franchise needs a soft reboot back to the end of Halo 3 and a return to its identity, and for 343 to be either scrapped or to have the entire company burned and rebuilt.
@@Chinesepenistrap Saw the red flags early too. When I played Halo 4 it literally felt like COD with a Halo skin. It’s amazing how these companies like Dice and 343 manage to fuck this up. The formula was already created
Halo fans before the 2020 gameplay reveal: "Sprint doesn't belong in Halo!" "Yes it's okay!"
Halo fans after the 2020 gameplay reveal: "Wait a minute forget sprint what the fuck have they been doing all these years?!"
I think a lot of us are cursed with experience of the amazing games we grew up with. To see games now makes us all frustrated and sad - especially with Halo. Further, to see the next generation of gamers enjoy and even praise them completely floors us. Standards have fallen so far, corporatization has sunk in, and we're more or less conditioned to it. I'm glad we have big voices like yours to recount what games were like and should be today.
Reasons this is happening.
#1 All the people who were actually good at their jobs and could make a functioning game or write good stories either retired or were driven out to make room for the diversity hires
#2 Game Devs prioritized meaningless metrics like, "16x bigger, 128x the graphical fidelity, 0.2% faster loading of Cash Shop" rather than ensuring the actual game worked first
#3 Devs were too spineless to tell the executives that what they wanted wouldn't work, would take too long or shouldn't be in their game just because Fortnite is doing it and they want those dollars too.
It's not like the marketing team could code the game.
#4 A slurping up of the "Gamers are bad" mentality pushed by bad actors who hate games but want to chase it for clout because it's becoming a bigger industry than hollywood so they all have to proclaim how much they loved playing The Mariotendo and the Halo Box when they were growing up when the actual aspect of playing games is revolting to them and they despise the people who play them.
I think this is the trend of entertainment. Music is watered down nowadays. There’s a ton of Netflix, Prime, etc originals with B actors and booty ass filming techniques.
We have an abundance of content now and I think we just have to sift through all the shit to find what’s good. I think the advancement of technology has made it easier to produce games, movies and music to the point where refinement and talent is lost. For example, filming movies on digital. Back then they were filmed on film, meaning that you can’t fuck up the scene. Whether it’s actor, the shot, the lighting, etc. The actor had to really sell the scene and make it believable.
For video games, the developers released it on a disc and so they had to make sure that the game was as perfected as much as possible before they released it.
For music, they didn’t have all the takes in the studio because it was recorded on tape. Meaning that it’s costly and when the band records the studio version of a song then they must make sure everyone is ready. Also all the other shit like software can fix many imperfections with a song nowadays.
In all, it’s all money driven and less effort.
I was done long ago. It is an absolute tragedy what has happened to Halo, a slow death is something I NEVER thought I'd see for the franchise. Press F to pee pee on 343 Industries
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I used to have this friend on halo reach who didn’t speak English but he would host these huge custom games,and every time I would join him it was always some fun custom maps,like racing or halo reach dayz and I think halo is missing that,missing the ability for me to make friends with someone who literally speaks a different language and missing the fun in mind mentality
That's most games these days. Good luck finding a buddy online, everyones talking on discord, or are gone at the end of the match. You don't get to join a server and see the same people constantly like the old days. Now you need an invite to a discord, and it's just awkward.
I say get yourself on MCC, download a bunch of customs, and host your own lobby in the customs browser. I do this from time to time and it is a lot of fun.
I always put on Jenga or Speed Halo as it gets people to join, but also put on some whacky shit that people don't expect and will hopefully enjoy.
Or get yourself in someone else's lobby and see if you can get people to put their mics on!
That happened to me too! I 100% agree
I’ve seen so many people say we don’t understand how much 343 loves Halo and how hard they work.
The thing is, sometimes people/companies are just not right for the job no matter how hard they work. Would a sports franchise keep a terrible coach just because they were nice and worked hard? No. The job needs to be done no matter what and 343 has failed at that.
They don't just fire an entire team tho. Management gets booted first
@@SaintsFan09-z3s yeah, but the new management usually shakes up the team and replaces some of the old players with new ones.
@@SaintsFan09-z3s Entire teams get axed all the time in private industry. Steve Jobs was notorious for it.
If you’re talking about the Dallas Cowboys than yes, a sports team would keep terrible coaches because they were nice and worked hard. 😊
As far as I’m concerned halo ended with halo 3 and everything after that has been non canon… meanwhile at bungie they are doing a pretty good job D2 is stays at the top of steam for some time now.
23:56 Call of Duty: Vanguard wants to know your location 💀
LMAOOOO
"Every decision you have made has led us from bad to worse." Sums up the whole video.
halo infinite is now battle field 2042. Both are cumbuckets 🥛
Pirates of the Caribbean lets go i love the references
Farewell, everyone. We will reconvene in a few years when the game is finished.
Hopefully.
Or when halo 6 or 7 whatever they call it comes out in 2030
Halo Endless
If delay industries is making it, I ain't touching it.
Thank you for the good times Craig
Infinite needs to die in a hole. Live service microtransaction-oriented Halo will never have a future and no one wants it.
The fact that split screen was canned entirely shows just how bad things are at 343.I mean a feature that has existed for 20 years being so hard to put in a game.
“Take one step forward, take 343 steps back.”
Sadly, that’s been Halo’s status for about a decade now.
How are you everywhere
3 steps forward 43 back
Makes more since
@Saul Goodman Is a company running your once beloved franchise into the mud? Better call Saul!
To everyone still playing this, your determination is unreal.
Anybody still playing this got no self respect..
@@Daren6111 I agree. I dont play. I go a month here and there without playing. But sometimes I see a free weekly aware I want then I play to get it then I stop playing. Last week the award was a Key charm that said "WORT" on it haha
To anyone still playing, stop it. Get some help
@@Daren6111 I can attest to this
@@colepeltier8472 the only one that was worth it in 10 years IT HURTS
The fact that BF2042 rose above Halo with player count, support, updates, and live service features is really telling
Match XP BETA That's what I call spit in your face lol
Dice redeemed themselves and their game real good
I’m Terrified
@@nealang9520 is it? i wanna give it another try but i dont wanna waste my time
2042 has risen from the grave
Rewatching this 3 months later reaffirms how I felt back then. Halo infinite made me regret getting the series X instead of a ps5.
This video is outdated as hell
@@Joshua-qv1ho Hopped on yesterday for the first time since season 1. UI crashed to desktop twice. 5 minutes to load a single match. Rubber banding every game. Banned before reaching level 1 of the battle pass. Checked out customs while outwaiting the ban. Loading a forge map crashes the game. Uninstalled Infinite. Installed MCC.
@@maicoxmauler2825 The biggest Chad move in gaming history
@@maicoxmauler2825 The game isnt in a good place but you have issues on your side because it works fine for me
Lets be honest this game was dead before it even came out
I literally haven't played Infinite in the last 4 months. I completely agree. They only understand you hitting them in the pocket.
Havent played it since two weeks after it came out.. game was a 💩
Havent played it since two weeks after it came out.. game was a 💩
@@nashonabo821 I suck with it for a little over a month then just faded to nothing.
I haven't played since November 24th, and I never will.
I hopped off when BTB broke. I’m waiting for desync and other latency issues to be fixed. Halo with unreliable melee is no fun.
The bad part about this is that splitscreen co-op totally works. It's literally 90% done, aside from some glitches and a little needed polish it works from beginning to end. There's no good reason to scrap a feature that is this far into development.
Dont worry i know for sure.
My uncle works at Bill Gates.
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It’s because it won’t make them money so their spending time and resources on something that wouldn’t increase sales. Soulless these people are
@@cpt.flinch3930 People already glitched into the splitscreen mode. As far as I know it seems to work nearly perfect.
They want you to buy an extra copy. With splitscreen coop, two or more players can play the campaign with a single copy. That's pretty much the only "good" reason for 343...
As someone whom worked on this game as an artist, thank you for sharing all of this. i cant speak for 343, but i can say i as a gamer and HUGE Halo fan do hear you and you are justified in your thoughts.
It was U that let this happen?
...U watched this unfold and didn't jump on the grenade....we all died 😢..."soon the great journey will begin.but when it does the weight of your heresy shall "stay your feet"
@@plaernotree holy shit bro go outside
Artist? As depressing as halo infinite is. I can't deny it's at least a gorgeous game. It's really the only thing the game has going for it. Very beautiful work ^^
words words words so many words.
@@Druyter0 heresy...lol
Infinite on the surface is great but something about it feels lacking. It just always feels it’s missing something.
it's the lack of stuff to do bro after completion.
Lol no it doesn't 343 has never understood halo and never will. Horrendous map design in every halo not having a dedicated ranked slayer Playlist and forcing objective based game modes no halo player ever liked lol. Like you could tell the halo franchise was going to die when 343 added jet packs and load outs in reach and it's on the dev team as much as leadership.
@@rams3955 i think you're speaking from a multiplayer perspective moreso but for me campaign is so dead and lifeless
Soul.
It's missing soul.
@@Disl3cic well put
I'm never done with the Act Man
Me neither
Are you sure you’re not lying?
You’re goddamn right.
No one is😁
Sames-ies lol
I seriously have no idea what the people at this studio do everyday. Its incredible how much work doesn’t get done
Feels like the government is wasting my tax
@@digduck9463 That's the least unknown part of it
That actually happens alot
i dont think they actually show up to work
@@ThBlueSalamander indeed
The split screen being cancelled is a slap in the face.
Yep. Nothing less.
Wait what?!
Big time
Slap? A Slap? They sent a plasma grenade in our faces
The only positive thing I can say about Infinite, was that they put it on Game Pass so I didn't waste any money on it.
May as well, no physical release was made to be special or sentimental to own. We got 3 hours notice of the special console release and now account holder pre order, just here ya go scalpers. I'm nearly done with the Xbox brand.
@@messiahlad join the pc gaming world like the rest of us
@@koolkiller35 Pretty arrogant to assume that I don't do both.
@@messiahlad or be like me get a ps5 and pc and have the best of everything
@@yeah-rb6kz still need the switch to have it all. My family loves party games and split screen gaming.
It’s ironic, as much as there have been games that over the years have labelled themselves as “halo killer”, the real halo killer might end up being halo itself.
Funny isn't it? The ones to kill massive, successful franchises were those franchises themselves. Well, maybe delusional upper management and incompetent, passionless staff would be more correct. Halo is dead, WoW is dead, CoD is shit, Battlefield is dead, Gears of War is dead, Saint's Row just recently buried itself, you wouldn't give a shit about Ubisoft games in a million years. MGS and Silent Hill? Dead. Final Fantasy franchise? Laughably mediocre. Most Sony owned japanese studios? Dead. This is a gamepocalypse and only few companies manage to churn out something competent and even they are becoming mired in controversies and making bad news.
343 in 2012: fine, we'll do it ourselves
@@Shiroi0moi No, the ones who "killed" those franchises were gamers themselves.
We allowed microtransactions, and said "oh but it's just cosmetics"
We allowed preorders and said "Oh, it's just this one time".
We allowed games being launched in a half baked state "Oh, but it's good 1 year later".
Do i need to go on?
If your looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror.
@@Orcawhale1 Yeah, I'm not the one hiring people to fill diversity quotas and bringing in top executives that only ever worked in movie production companies and haven't touched a video game in their lives. Sure, complacent, half witted consumer is the one who allows this shit to happen, but the companies themselves are the ones that pushed all those harmful business practices in the first place and hapless, soulless devs that work because they couldn't find anything better for a career, who actively call their consumers "ungrateful chuds" are also to carry the blame for ruining gaming. It's a complex set of issues, but I prefer to shit on people who are forcing me to buy a game full price and then pushing dlc's and mtx and also calling me a racist and mysoginist for no reason but for wanting a good game. Fuck them.
it's not dead I play every night on Xbox Series X, it's a great game, more to come.
"This is a roadmap for what they're aiming for..." - Exactly everything wrong with the AAA gaming industry today. They aim, they strive, but they just don't have what it takes to deliver.
I think of it more of what’s wrong with customers. Image any other product being sold half-complete but the seller says “well here a roadmap of how the product will work at the end”. I’m not going to blame companies for duping easily fooled customers.
That’s what happens when a game studio is no longer developing and a corporation is instead
@@TNTITAN Except for the fact that any other company that sells a product would be sued into oblivion for false advertising by now.
@@BoredPodcaster These days lying in a commercial is part of free speech. Maybe it different in other places but in the US there almost no protection for a false claim and it happens way more often than you think.
@@TNTITAN I live in the US, and false advertising isn't protected speech as far as the market goes. The difference today is most people won't sue because most people can't afford to do so, and those with enough money to do so are probably involved or have a stake in it somehow.
Its actually sad to slowly watch one of the most iconic series ever made be just squished into the gutter
They do what you allow them to get away with. I don't give them money because clearly thats all they care about. The gaming community is full of naive wishful thinkers
@@nashonabo821 how many times do we have to get burned before we realize this
Marathon can still be exist, what about Bungie ?
I always come back to this video because I feel the same way. The winter update was exciting to me until tonight. I actually sat there and wondered why I’m even giving infinite my time.
Hats off to you. I lasted all of 2 weeks before I realized I was playing a beta.
The lack of content/creativity shows me this was their last ditch effort to make a ton of money off the halos reputation.
Rip halo. You will be missed.
Same here, could smell the bs a mile away, left after 2 weeks, only because 1 friend played with me but we both got so bored and disappointed
Fuck Beta this game is barely Alpha with the amount of content right now.
You guys remember when Halo Reach had so many game modes you’d literally never run out of content? With a beautiful menu, a satisfying upgrade system, LOBBIES THAT STAYED AFTER MATCHES. You guys remember as kids seeing that one player with a ghost helmet and being like wow this guy is so cool lemme send him a friend request? Halo used to have so much life, so much community, such a reason to invest. Weekly challenges, firefight, forge, swat, infection, big team battle, capture the flag, oddball, griffball, coop campaign, it was… perfection, and it was over a decade ago
Good old Bungie days
Back when bungie could crank out a full halo game every 3 years. Now takes 6 years and a year+ long beta lmao.
Yeah man most of the best online gaming experiences are long dead and buried. The golden age didnt have to end, it was stabbed in the back by greed
What im saying! Where has the spirit and love for the game gone?! Does no one give af anymore?!
This is exactly how I feel. How the hell does an 11 year old game have more content then one released last year? It's to the point now where I'm past the anger and it's just sadness. Halo used to be so much fun.
Why does 343 get so much heat but Xbox doesn't? Xbox oversees all of this. Ultimately its on them. 343 made 4, 5 and Infinite. When does xbox step in and correct this
Finally! Tired of developers using us as the Q&A department, shipping broken or incomplete games and thinking that's OK.
Developers now a days are scum and idk why people keep saying higher ups as if that excuses incompetent coding.
@@keonkla not saying there aren't any bad devs out there but being rushed by said higher ups can lead to "incomplete coding"
@@garedbi Oh ya higher ups can be road blocks. I think people thinking the devs of every gaming disaster as "angels" is misleading. While devs if not part of abig corporation can be passionet say indie games.
Alot of devs in triple A might be burnt out leading to cutting some corners and lack of caring because they are just trying to get a pay check at the end of the day. Just like Corpos are just seeking profits. Similarly to how sometimes gamers still preorder in this day and age.
Thus The gaming industry being bad can have all sides of the problem be blamed in a sense.
Ten years ago Halo was one of the biggest franchises out there. Everyone knew who Master Chief was like they knew who Mario was. He was the face of gaming. What 343 has done to this franchise is awful.
tbh, I only first heard of master chief like 4 years ago, while mario was literally at the beginning of my childhood, lets say a decade ago
and the fandom is worts
@@noalt4028 you only heard of master chief 4y ago? I don't care about halo but damn man idk how you didn't know about him lmao
@@jouille4524 i mean if I didnt roll with xbox as my selected console and wasnt too poor or stupid to know how to buy/set up a computer as a kid I probably wouldnt know who masterchief was either.
Same what Disney did to Star Wars.
"Dont make a girl a promise if you know you can't keep it."
Hits Hella different now
Maybe he’ll wake up in the pod one day, and halo 4+ will have all been a dumb dream.
@@elcidS15 I really hope so, the fact I enjoy the books more than these past few recent halo games is saying alot to me XD
@@elcidS15 I'd let Halo 4 slide, but 5 and after? Yeah they should've stayed in the conceptual void.
@@fojisan2398 shit, Halo Infinite makes Halo 4 look like pure gold.
@@caseyhall2320 I,mean goddamn it makes Halo 5 look good. I despise Halo 5 and even that game had things resembling worthwhile content in it.
I remember when my brother got an Xbox 360 for his birthday, he woke me up at like 3am and we played halo 4 all night. Sucks they never got split screen figured out
The bad part about this is that splitscreen co-op totally works. It's literally 90% done, aside from some glitches and a little needed polish it works from beginning to end. There's no good reason to scrap a feature that is this far into development.
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i have a preety good idea why it was scrapped.
Split screen is not a hard feature to implement,hell it existed for decades
So it was probably assigned to 1 guy,or a very small group.
Aaand my best guess was that the person in charge of doing the split screen left the company before finishing it,so managment decided to scrap it cuz why would they try to assign resources to that. Managment in 343 seems completely fucked atm and it clearly shows that most of them are not competent enouggh to be in that position and are probably alien to the halo franchise
they’re focused on MTX
@@omgitsabean15 mtx?
I'll tell you what it is, it's probably the fact that we're still trying to make this compatible to OG 2012 Xbox One Hardware, so to make sure the thing is still chugging along, split screen got cancelled for everybody, so it wouldn't blow up the console.
Once again proving why you are the true voice of the Halo community thank you for making sure our voices are heard and hopefully we can inspire change for our favorite fps franchise
Thank you kind sir!
@@TheActMan People might forget, but when halo 5 came out people were gaslighting the halo fanbase and saying they are overreacting and the game is great! Other youtubers "HaloWaypoint" "halo xphirea" were pretending it was great.
Here comes 3k subs actman making a 5 part series about how horrible halo 5 was and he didn't hold his punches. This is why i stuck with you all these years after that 1 video. Im so happy you turned into such a champ.
ur buggin this is the same guy that trashed on halo 5. the same game that gave you freedoms other halos couldnt
@@DarthVantos thats exactly why i hate this guy. hes the reason most of the fun stuff is now removed in infinite
It's so sad to the point that it's sort of impressive that 343i is struggling to build core Halo features Bungie mastered 10+ years ago. I have pretty much completely given up on the series.
Yo Walshy! Just wanted to say thanks for hosting all those halo montages, you propped up a big part of the prime halo community. Left a permanent mark on game culture too. I still go back to Dualtality every now and again lol
The moment we were told, "Co-op is dead," when Halo 5 released, I became pretty convinced that this was part of some 10 year buisness plan to phase out local co-op. I think the idea is to try to force people to buy the game themselves, rather than have the _sheer_ audacity to play at someone else's house.
Considering I have always played Halo games with my brother and we grew up playing games with our uncles (and still do), I'm calling this line of thinking: bullshit.
seriously best way to hurt a company, stop supporting them, stop giving them money, then they get the message
@@kyotheman69 Oh yes. My brother and I haven't touched Halo 5 and beyond. They said our bonding time was dead, so we just took it (and our money) elsewhere.
Gears 5 has split screen even on PC. Halo 1 is over 20 years old and ran on a 64mb celeron 733mhz cpu. There is 0 excuse not to have split screen. besides greed
Playing Halo Infinite during the beta and launch period was some of the most fun I’ve ever had playing Halo, and now I can’t play more than a few matches without getting bored out of my mind
That’s wild because halo custom games with friends will always destroy halo multiplayer infinite or reach
It all went downhill after Halo 3..
I was really enjoying the campaign then halfway through I just stopped and never felt like going back. My brain realized that it was boring and the story was lame. I just liked grappling around everywhere
@@mysteriousastrolabe Excuse me? Odst and Reach are absolute bangers. Halo 2 will always be my favorite, but I'm comparing a 10 out of a 10 to other 10s. Halo C.E, Halo 2, Halo 3, ODST, REACH are perfect. You're crazy to think otherwise.
@@mysteriousastrolabe I feel like it went downhill after reach tbh
As soon as I read "live service" " ten year plan" "micro transaction" I knew there was a high likelihood that infinite could be the death of Halo.
It's incredibly saddening.
The amount of people that fell for it is just as much as a problem as 343i the community is full of smoothbrains unfortunately
@@gtrblackhawk perhaps, but getting duped and hoping for better aren't the sane.
Very true!
@@IllusiveSpartan having hope after seeing what 343i have done for over a decade isn’t a viable excuse. I’m sorry but fool me once shame on you….
Then when it launched and the only functioning part of the game was the fortnite shop
Splitscreen is how my dad and I played Halo together back in the day, and we were both saddened by the fact that we couldn't do that with Halo 5. Then Infinite was announced to have Splitscreen on launch, and I told my dad "hey dad-we can play Infinite together at least" and he agreed... And then Infinite launched with no splitscreen... I was upset and told my dad about that-he just shook his head in dissapointment. Then come to find out splitscreen is just cancelled entirely, and it just felt like a giant slap in the face. Complete and utter ignorance is what the decision to remove splitscreen was based upon-nothing more. So many people were looking forward to this-far more than some realize
100% I remember playing all the halos co-op with my best friends, completing halo 2 legendary with my buddy after an all nighter. I just had a similar experience but with FF crystal chronicles I played that with my cousin for years, bought the remastered version and no local play...
At least you can play customs together, or play multiplayer together, I guess…
Yep same exact story with me and my dad actually. I have fond memories of playing halo as a kid with my dad, was excited to experience it again. Almost bought an Xbox after 15 years of not having one to play with him. Glad I didn't waste that money
@@adnancharif9296 We'll play firefight on occassion and sometimes replay a campaign or two
@@gillboy131 Yeah my dad and I were considerring splitting money to get a Series X for splitscreen Infinite... Didn't happen just yet, and probablu not ever unless this awful decision by 343 is reversed
Act Man, you shouldn’t take 343 not inviting you to early access and events personally. You’re the voice of the people, people’s champ. That’s worth more than being on the good side of a company with shady and unprofessional business practices.
facts
Yeah, go the Gamers Nexus Route. Make them accountable and as transparent as possible.
@@hanging4176 Facts!
100% nailed it! Act Man has creator integrity, and I respect it.
It's funny how obviously clear who is on 343's bitch list. You see plenty of TH-camrs who downplay and give them a pass over and over again, and it's kinda disgusting how they shill so hard for a clearly bad studio.
I love the Halo games. It's a shame they stopped making them after Halo Reach...
Big facts
Don't worry, I heard rumors of a brand new Halo game in development called "Halo Infinite" that's going to be released late into 2024!
@@limewater4074 Man That Sounds Epic!
@@TRG_R17 I’m here from the future, BURN IT, BURN IT NOW *runs back in to portal*
@@limewater4074 were to pre order
maybe little late, but I am done with Halo as well! 343 has no respect to gamers and gaming community as a whole ,,they promised but they cancelled it!
My son and I spent $800 Xbox series X with 2 years of ultimate game pass and we told each other we would play together like playing First Halo when me scoped and my son fired the cannon from the tank - it was so fun!! Until my son now 13 years old told me a few months ago 343 cancelled, even told me "they cheated us dad" - I feel 343 is really bunch of disrespectful adults and not worth for buying any game from them - They do not keep the promise!
It really hurts. I’ve been a Halo fan since I could hold the controller, just sitting in the warthog while my brother beat Halo 3 was enough for me. It’s such a shame to see it crash and burn like this…
"It dosen't matter how a game launches it just matter where it ends up"
Look I'm not here to say what people should and shouldn't do.
I AM here to say however, that we shouldn't let Todd Howard be right.
Todd Howard being right hurts gaming and the industry for everyone
Agreed, the abuse of post-launch updates is disgusting, bug fixes and additional content is fine but the game should be complete at launch, NO exceptions or excuses, especially for such a high profile game.
Todd ruined fallout
Yeah it's a bad take. like with no man's sky, I keep hearing "oh but its good now!" If it wasn't good at release or soon after release it's forever bad. I come from a time where games came finished
@@jetmcgee4218 I give NMS a pass because while what you say is true, they were definitely reaching beyond what they could get at the time. But now after all these years, they've delivered on their promises and provided more than they originally promised all without a single paid DLC or microtransaction.
It would have been so easy for them to take the money and run, or deliver sub par updates. But they show clear passion and love for their game and that's what we need more of today. Does it excuse the launched NMS? No. Does it mean we can forgive Hello Games for going above and beyond? Yes. I think so.
@@jetmcgee4218 That's a bit pessimistic. Sure, the game should've been MUCH better at launch and shouldn't have come with so many broken promises, but I feel like calling No Man's Sky a game that's "forever bad" is a bit of an exaggeration. And a bit unfair considering all of the improvements that came after its release.
Still should've been good on launch, but that doesn't mean that it didn't improve.
Match xp beta is the most telling part. They are so afraid of accidentally being too rewarding, even for just a few days before any potential adjustments/nerfs, they have to beta test it.
Exactly what I was thinking lol
Like wtf??? Just add SOMETHING. I don't care if it's good or bad.
how dare we have fun
ok
Live services has ruined gaming.
This is one of the best Acting Male videos in a long time, straight facts in this video.
Acting male😂
I think Griffin Gaming put it best in one of his newest videos:
“The only people on planet Earth that could literally do the worst job possible and sit around doing nothing all day while still getting paid are either 343 employees or the Congress”
LOL great quote
@JC Denton At least EA have Respawn
@JC Denton I think you missed the part where I was quoting someone
@JC Denton Apex is pretty popular while halo is doing worse than battlefield 2042... I can imagine EA are really pleased with their cash cow and the apex fans actually. like. the. game. mad right?
@@thelemoneater the Titanfall community is getting ready to celebrate the 1 year anniversary of Respawn saying that they are going to fix the game.
Finally… been waiting for your take on this, halo deserves better
343i: “what is it?”
Halo community: “that stench, I’ve smelled it before.”
343: "Splitscreen will appear in all future Halo games"
Me: Don't make the fans a promise.... if you know you can't keep it"
For years, every time someone asked me why I still had an Xbox I’d say “because Halo”… but that hasn’t really been a good answer for about a decade now. I uninstalled Infinite back in February and have been watching it whither and die from the sidelines. It’s so depressing what they did to Halo.
The only things keeping me on Xbox is the game pass and the quick resume feature (also the fact that I don't really care for GoW anymore)
So true man. I've really been considering moving to PS. If not for game pass and the fact it's impossible to get your hands on a PS5 I prob would have already done so.
@@thebadwolf3088Gow is good enough to "betray" Xbox for or you can just have both.
i made the switch from xbox one s to ps5 this gen. haven’t looked back since, best decision i’ve made.
I can get Halo on pc now and even use mods. There's genuinely no reason for me to go boot up my xbox now.
How in the fuck is split screen hard to implement??????
The fact that we literally had to glitch in campaign club is fucking abysmal can’t you goddamn money, hungry companies give us these fucking features instead of seeing us as mindless sheep that gives you money?
This hurts man. You've been one of the biggest streamers of Halo content and one of the franchises biggest fans. Halo has sank so low that even their diehard fans are leaving them.
He said he’s done with Halo Infinite, not Halo altogether. And with that lead recently leaving and people with a better track-record taking her spot, we’ll likely see Act Man at the next Halo game, 1 that is better managed
@@christianmartinez9751 i mean if they get to make another game thats past our expectation.
I am as profoundly hurt by the greed and stupidity of 343 executives as every die-hard _Halo_ fans. My beef is mostly with the way the lore was handled since the latter half of the last decade. The dumbing down of the lore, the MCU-isation of the tone, the sheer incoherence and retardation of the latest canonical developments have worned out my soul. My mental health is literally worse because of it.
They should've hired Greg Bear as the chief scenarist. The lore would at least have been salvaged. They could've hired Neil Blomkamp as the showrunner for the TV show and make it a new exciting addition to the established lore. But nope! They had to trash it. There is no justification for these idiotic and retarded decisions. The only reason they do it is because they get away with it, they get their paycheck and they don't have to care one bit about the consequences and ramifications of their actions. Even if the game sucked, we could've had our _Halo_ fix through other media. But nope. They had to thoroughly ruin it all. There is *NOTHING* , absolutely *NOTHING* 343 has touched at this point that hasn't been run into the mud and bastardized. I am so angry, bitter, disappointed and sad. In fact, I am grieving the slow agonizing death of my beloved franchise and what it could've been.
RIP _Halo_ (2001-2015)
*Nothing* past _Halo 5: Guardians_ is part of my headcanon. I literally regard *ANY* post-2015 lore development as non-canon. I regard what 343 has done a personal injury and insult. They could still fix it! That's the worst part! It's not too late! But they won't. I have seen no willingness in the last six years to make amends for the damage they've done to _Halo_ and I have absolutely no hope that they ever will.
I wish _Halo_ died with some measure of dignity in 2015. At least, we could tell ourselves we had a decent run.
@@zayIrwin Oh, they'll make another game, I'm certain of it. But it'll be trash and not worth our attention one bit. I'm already *NOT* looking forward to the next game and I already declare that I will *NOT* play the next _Halo_ game.
@@christianmartinez9751 There will be no better managed _Halo_ game. The standards are rapidly plummeting and there is no reason to expect things to magically change overnight. It's what it is.
Dear 343i:
Don’t make a player a promise…if you know you can’t keep it.
Sincerely,
A long time Halo fan.
@Тhе Асt Маn 🅥 fake lol
@@Zinin4 that’s what I thought
fun fact I've seen indie games made by a single person have split screen that works properly.
ps:its stardew valley
343i: Halo Infinite is so new, unfinished, I'm not sure what will happen if we release it.
Xbox: Let's release it and let's all profit!
Rest in peace halo infinite. You were fun for 40 hours ten months ago. Your concept and first month of gameplay will be missed
Facts
Seriously those few weeks after when the multiplayer beta dropped. It really felt like halo was back. Friends I’ve been playing with since CE were back online…… and now we’re here…
@JC Denton I'm honestly glad that you're enjoying it. The thing is, it's a problem when your game has less care going into it than Overwatch 2
@Adolfizzz0 what in the fucking world 🌎 🤣🤝
@JC Denton ig we're all entitled to our own interpretations of what is good, bad, right and wrong. I just don't like how fans of the game are more passionate than the devs, but it's the nature of a franchise as old as halo to get bogged down, corporatized, and passionless. Agree to disagree my friend
Microsoft built 343 studios with game developers who didnt like the OG halo games. They wanted halo to compete with call of duty.
As a guy who grew up playing Halo, and who had high hopes for Infinite, I'm extremely saddened by the state of Infinite and how 343 just can't get things right no matter what. Great video as always :)
did you all forget the og gameplay trailer where y’all got craig from?? let alone the other 2 dumpster fire games, it was clear this game was gonna be no different.
@@yoursecrxt I found it funny, but considering how long this was in the making, it *should’ve* DEFINITELY been different.
@@yoursecrxt lol I said that all along and all I got was “stop pre-judging what you haven’t even played” and “those graphical bugs in the gameplay reveal will be fixed by release” (referring to the original launch date of late 2020, which never happened and was delayed an entire year which I also predicted lol). Now look at everyone’s reactions. It was obvious this game was going to be yet another of 343’s steaming piles of trash, but everyone was just too blinded by nostalgia and hype to see it.
Honestly Act Man, you're the voice of a lot of Halo fans in my opinion. I grew up playing split-screen Halo campaigns, on legendary, with my best friend that's no longer with us. Just two dudes with physical disabilities trying to save humanity and have a few laughs along the way. And I cherish those memories, sitting in his room together and playing Halo CE, 2, 3, and Reach together.
It makes me sad that 343 has basically said fuck you to people who want to create memories exactly like the ones I value more than any possession I own. I wish things were different for 343 and Halo since Bungie left. But I'm grateful I was around for the golden era, and I'm grateful someone like you can speak so elegantly for someone like me
And you just put it so elegantly for me. So many of us have the same core, precious memories of having fun with people we love.
I'm sorry to hear you lost your friend and gaming buddy. The anniversary of Reach dropping reminded me of the times in college when I would play Halo with one of my best friends who also passed and it brought up so many memories together. I do wish we could go back to the days where Halo was both a party game and a competitive one too. Even Nintendo can toe the line with Smash Bros making stages and options for both competitive and casual fun modes, it's sad Microsoft and 343 can't get their act together.
When halo infinite released, I haven’t played halo in my life until that time and I was like “cool free game” got bored after 2-3 weeks and dropped it, not so long ago I buoyed the MCC and played the original trilogy for the first time, and halo 2 might be one of the best campaigns I’ve played in a shooter ever, now I fully understand the anger of the community.
Welcome to the community my friend
@IGogetaX10I my first experience was Halo 4 which I actually enjoyed the story in 2012 and I got the MCC Christmas 2014 and the night of Christmas Eve I remember playing Halo 2 campaign I still remember that night
I am really glad you gave the original trilogy a chance it was a truly ground breaking game.
Halo 2 is the *Black Sheep* of the OG Bungie Trilogy
Working for 343 doesn't sound too bad, tbh. Getting paid to do absolutely nothing and eat each other out all day sounds like a pretty good time.
yea i dont really like this trend of youtubers saying "i blame the management, the common devs for sure work hard". sure ultimately its managements fault since they recruit and hire people (and make sure the good workers stay or rile them up to leave), but when you look at 343i its not hard to imagine a lot of the common workers are halo fans who dont know anything about game making. you cant believe its just managers strangling competent devs when everything gets delayed or comes out half-there. devs have a huge blame and im sure there are plenty who say "who plays split-screen anyway?"
my first experience with videogames was when me and my dad we’re playing outside and we were exhausted and heated, then I remember he said “let’s go inside and play some halo” and I was like “halo? what’s that?” we played halo in split screen and I was amazed how fun it was
@Adolfizzz0 'jaw drops and claps'
You should become a writer ...just saying.
It’s enough to bring a tear to gamers eyes. 343 heard that they were being called the worst developer right now and said “We can be worse than that hold our beer” It’s like running a race in the wrong direction.
they really did go "the worst developer so far" huh
There are more worse game devs than 343, aka EA
@@NoNameTaken117 Worst one under Xbox right now, but Rare is in a very close 2nd right now
But since Rare are assisting with Goldeneye, & Perfect Dark hoping that means they are going back to form and eventually will make multiple teams to make Rare games that are new Franchises and also existing dormant IP too
Ngl, when I first saw the trailer my erection ripped straight through my jeans. Now it could never be more flacid.
@@y3l10wflash6 Why exactly is Rare second?
The fact that your video has more views than the actual update video posted by the halo developers should tell you all you need to know
The sad part is i am entirely sure every member at 343 has seen it as well 😂😂😂
It tells you people prefer whining over anything else.
@@Yeti_Talks shit game, L opinion, snort on some copium harder. EFT is a superior game.
@@Yeti_Talks Bro people are free to whine about whatever they want, it's a franchise we care about and it's gone to shit, stop defending this pathetic excuse of a company
@@Yeti_Talks hence you being here
"game devolpment is hard, but it cant be THAT hard" has to be something ive been shouting for the last few years at every triple A game. Its fucking wierd, why are games with smaller studios so much better at getting content made, why are modders wio work for free able to make shit at 10x the pace AND 10x the quality. I really dont understand.
You know it's bad when Dice is doing a better job of fixing their game than 343.
We've entered the forbidden timeline.
Damn. So true. Big oof
Ikr
Holy sh*t
Dice did an amazing job fixing battlefront 2 when it released years ago. I just hope they can do the same for 2042
I’m so happy the community finally came together to say enough is enough
I was already at that point when I saw halo 5.
It took you morons way too long. You guys buy into every hype train that companies push out and wonder why games suck.
@@GIacius agree. This is nothing new
im going back to halo MCC
i would play halo 3 BUT DAT GOT SHUT DOWN
@@uykolyx it seems more popular then ever tbh. I play MCC almost every day at this point
I have a buddy who works cinematics at 343. According to him, just about everyone involved with the main creative team was either let go or has quit. Apparently, their equipment is outdated and the company refuses to give them the help/tools they need to turn out new content. Now they're filling the gaps with temp contract works and inconsistent/bad design, causing multiple restarts. Their leadership has no vision as they jump from problem to problem with no clear idea of what they want the game to actually be.
Yep, sounds about right
I wonder, why is contract work bigger than the main team a thing anyway? You expect contract work to be for content like new maps and cosmetic, and not just... basically the whole game.
then 343 needs to die
@@Deliveredmean42 I would say it means they don't have to provide employees with benefits. Probably a max profit thing
@@Revkor yeah, I almost wonder whether microsoft has a hand in that type of problem, most likely both. Literally screw the AAA studio's practice of being giant pieces of shit about everything.
3 for 3 halo flops - 343 studios
I have to say halo infinite I found VERY VERY DISAPPOINTING. Its the only Halo game I've only played once.
2004 Bungie: "We have hidden the scarab gun somewhere in a map, you have to glitch out a bit and do gimmicks with a banshee to get it!"
2021 343i: "haha, noobs, we have hidden CO-OP! , you have to glitch out the game to have the co-op splitscreen somewhere in the code! try playing it now!"
2004: a cool gun is a easter egg u prob wont get it tho
2021: you cant fucking play co op without fucking up the code
Hell I’m sure they’ll patch it out anyway. They patched out flying the Pelican for no reason other than it was actually fun I guess.
@@Comkill117 they also Patched out that Cannon you could pick up.. which was a cool Easter egg, even though it wasn't an intentional one.
It's wild how much games companies are getting away with these days. I've been boycotting blizzard games since their employees walked out bc of Bobby Kotick's behavior. Looks like I'll add 343 to the list. It completely blows my mind that AAA companies can't even do the bare minimum while indie developers are making the best games.
We need to vote with our dollars, people.
It's the only way really. And the sad part is they'll abandon the ip for a few years then hype it back up. Creativity isn't a money maker, push out title after title is the motive.
@@spookzie4208 that market model is on a timer regardless. more and more people in the community are waking up
Loads of my friends still play hearthstone. And obviously a lot still play WoW. Unfortunately when overwatch 2 actually launches it will have a bunch of players too who just can’t say no to more Overwatch. It’s really annoying but lots of people just don’t care.
@@simunator while I agree that it's on a timer, I don't see any major changes to their formula in the next decade.
The last 4 minutes of "Remember Halo" in Crowbcats video perfectly show what the Halo community is desperately missing and how far Halo has fallen.
So, as much as I've been playing Halo since 2012-13, I don't really understand what is it that the halo community is missing? (It's cause I never played halo multiplayer up until either 2019 or 2021). Is it Halo's identity as Xbox's titan killer app, or important things like forge and split screen campaign coop being launched in day 1? I can understand the frustration on both sides, but idk which one? Am I missing something?
@@angelfilms4886 It's the latter. No one cares if it's Xbox's killer app or not, it will be Xbox's killer app if the game is great and actually finished by launch day. (I'm a PC halo player since 2002) Halo revolutionized the FPS genre and gave us memories from the early 2000's that nothing else did, and 343 has just wiped their ass with the franchise to make a quick buck. I don't want to buy an unfinished game and then be given a roadmap for when they'll actually finish it. Splitscreen, forge, CUSTOM GAMES, good maps, the most amazing story from an FPS game; that whole legacy is just being shat on. The games are still mostly fun and that gives us hope, which makes the dissapointment even worse.
@@angelfilms4886 It's important things like forge, split screen and the I think most importantly the community aspect has been gutted from the game.
@@angelfilms4886 It makes sense that you don't understand, as Halo's glory years were over by the time you even started playing.
Damn. I've been seeing the replies and, it must've been awful not been able to experience the fun stuff of a new halo game (especially, at launch day). I remember my father got us an Xbox one in 2016, iirc, just to play halo mcc and halo 5, and I remember that, with halo mcc, I kinda had a bad feeling about halo mcc (mostly cause it didn't have halo reach), but I mostly had fun with what it had with my older brother (and no, we didn't play online multiplayer at the time). And, after that, we havent played it for years up till halo reach came out on mcc. But, with Halo 5, I was super letdown, cause it didn't have split screen campaign coop, and I couldn't play the campaign with my older brother. And now, I can't even play campaign coop with both my little sister and my older brother :"V. So, yeah, the winter update does pique my interest a little bit, but what's the point, tho? I stopped playing halo infinite for months, and I was playing other games, including mcc. So, yeah, it's safe to say that they should give halo to another developer thay deserve it. I suppose a Halo game from Respawn would be nice, but idk (*cough* EA *cough*)
They replaced cortana with bing
I remember skipping a dance in middle school to have an all night LAN+Split screen party the night Halo 3 released. These are the kind of Halo memories I miss.
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and sadly we will never get that feel again from any game that releases today the technology has moved past that but also left something behind
I've had so many great memories with the Halo franchise and especially Halo 3 ! I was hoping that Halo: Infinite would bring new fans and loyal old fans back to the game and it DID... for a short period of time.
I went out of my way to buy a Halo: Infinite limited edition Xbox Series X to spoil my little brother for Christmas. He was stoked about it, but he was sad that we couldn't play together AT ALL... not even on 2 separate consoles ! When I heard about the cancellation of split-screen co-op, that ember of what was left for me and my excitement with the Halo franchise is now gone.
Thank you 343i for making the gaming franchise that grew the Xbox brand turn into a pile of failed potential.
@@Dat_Zupra_Dude maybe try the split screen glitch
You had *DANCE* classes in middle school? I shudder in horror.
The situation becomes really dumb when you realise that split screen was basically finished, but 343 couldn't be bothered to iron out the bugs in order to make good on their promises!
I feel like Microsoft told them to stop in hopes doing this would sale more consoles
@@mup8661 That is difficult to believe. The reality is that this is a feature that only a small minority of people will use. Most people would find it difficult to have to go back to playing games with just 1/4 of the television screen. I don't think that would have sold additional consoles, especially given that supply has only recently caught up to demand.
@@captainthunderbolt7541 Split screen co-op is a huge part of the culture of the franchise. I don't play anything split screen, rarely play co-op. But was really looking forward to playing Infinite co-op with my wife. I would have to disagree with you that only a small minority of players would have utilized it. In most games, sure but split screen Halo campaign was always something special.
@@ljunderground I wasn't trying to diminish the importance of split screen. I know that it is very important to the hardcore fanbase - but I just think that demographic is a small enough niche that Microsoft didn't really stand to materially benefit in console sales by withholding the feature.
@@captainthunderbolt7541 Ah ok yeah I see what you mean. It definitely more than likely is just due to a lack of execution on 343's part. And from my perspective it seems like a lack of passion/understanding from the leadership team.
343 is like the high school kid who had 6 months to complete a book report and decided the night before to finally start working on it. Except instead of a high schooler, it’s grown ass adults paid six figure salaries and instead of 6 months, they had fucking 6 years.
noble six fought 1 day & 14 hours straight holding off the covenant in a last stand…
for THIS?
shame 343, shame.