it took me all but 0 seconds to realize that the guy front and center at 1:09 is me! changed so much since then. I think everyone's Flight Sargent told their cadets to put covers on when the highest-ranking officer had his/her own on. I had no idea this was not the case. maybe they just told us that to troll with us idk.
Hmm I was taught different about wearing covers in the vehicle. I was told to put my cover on when the driver has his cover on If not then I would take it off
That was the point of this video, you and so many cadets like you have always been taught a myth, a rule that does not exist and never has existed. The point being next time someone tells you it's the rules, you'll know it's not, and you can tactfully and respectfully challenge them to cite said rule, because I guarantee you there is not one.
As a former Cadet we were taught Senior Driving cover on OHHH Get your cover on LOL now ahdays im that Senior member that does the same thing with My cadets.
I was in the honor guard went to Maryland for it from 095th squadron in texarkana Texas won the spirt award while I was there in 2009 still have my wooden rifle..with everyone's name on it
Being a spaatzn I can tell you it does not mean you know everything, there's a lot I don't know. But that's why we should all be experts at looking things up rather than enforcing rules that don't exist!
I'm in the Air Force, we tend to take them off because it's more comfortable but it's not a requirement. I leave it on all the time, has nothing to do with the driver or rank.
I'm the youngest and newest Cadet where I live... They call me "The newbie" "The new girl" "Fresh meat" stuff like that.... I don't like it lol but ya know idc really..... my question is like do ppl always do that? xD
That is pretty normal. As a young cadet it can seem kind of frustrating but having been in your shoes and in their shoes later on I can guarantee you it means nothing. It's just something cadets do. Your cadet career will move quickly and before you know it you'll be a cadet staff sergeant and there will be some new airman joining.
Hence the title of the Video,This decision is USUALLY by the Person at the Wheel,during some activities,such as Basic Encampment. At least with the Officers I had been under,so far.
Michael Saul the officers were wrong. And after a decade in CAP you definitely had the time to figure out the truth ;) I was in CAP for 15 years and continually had to try to dispel this rumor. Been in the Air Force for 8 years now and not once has anyone said anything about wearing a hat in a vehicle. We all just do what we want since there's no rule on it.
Wearing a cover inside a building signify's the Sentry Of The Guard is armed with a Sidearm. That way you know who to go to incase there's a breach of Security.
I guess you would know who the followers are, lol. I too was told to only wear cover outdoors and do not wear them in vehicles but it’s different depending on which uniform you are wearing, no regs on the BDU’s cover in vehicles.
Matthew Peamoon 1. CAPR 39-1 6.2.7 calls it a BDU "Cap" not a cover. Cover is a navy term I believe. 2: You clearly didn't watch the video because it explains why you are wrong. :)
Cover applies to the Maritime Forces. Marine Corps, Coast Guard & Navy's 8 Point Cover otherwise it's refferd to as a PC - Patrol Cap 3 Point in the Army , Air Force & Space Force .
@@Texasmilitarydepartmentvid9654 ive been in the Air Force for nearly a decade and have yet to hear a single person call it a "PC" but I hear army folks call it that all the time.
When you can find the citation directly from the uniform regulation that says this, I will take this video down and announce you as the new uniform expert. But until you find that citation... I'll be waiting ;)
Hi there, publisher of this video and person driving the van in the video. I am also a member of the military, and not a try hard thanks. You have to understand the difference between military and cadet life. Being a cadet means you are constantly in training, learning the basics of the military. Learning the rules, traditions and lifestyle that comes with the military. That being said, cadets are held to a much much much higher standard than the military. Just because they have more discipline for the rules than you do, doesn't make them try hards, it makes you a slacker. :)
I beg to differ. Are you/were you a member of CAP? Having been a member of CAP for 11 years I can tell you I learned a whole lot more about leadership and teamwork in CAP than in the military or school. Also there is an operations side of CAP, did you ever do that? That's real world missions from search and rescue to border protection. If you're comparing CAP to the military itself, yes the scope of what CAP does is limited, however, CAP trains for and does a whole lot more than the boy scouts, do you go around dogging on the scouts too? If that's the case... get a life :) or... should I just bow to your holiness and all knowing and godly like being... that's what you want isn't it? I mean... that's why people make fun of other people right? looking for praise and power and feel goods. Well, you wont get it here, move along :)
Not everyone is like that, but the program realizes that has been a problem in the past and is taking active steps to mitigate that issue. TIG requirements have gone up, and they are trying to limit people from shooting up in rank and getting big egos. The USAF itself is assisting in restructuring and bettering our professional development program, with our new command under ACC and First Air Force the program is seeing lots of good things for the future. Don't even pretend to tell me the military isn't just as bad. Every organization has its asshats, and I'd almost argue that I see more asshats in the military than I do in CAP. You cant judge an entire program because of a few douche bags. That's a pretty narrow vision, personally, I choose to ignore those people and make the program worth while for me and anyone who I have an influence on. It sounds to me like you had a common experience we all have, and that is a run in or two with some idiot in CAP, yeah, it happens, I wont deny that, but CAP has a lot to offer, and especially military parents are all about getting their kids involved in a program like this, its better to put up with some idiots and gain a lot of training and experience, than wasting your time on the streets.
Some cadets join C.A.P. and think it will be common to the military.Others,want something to do productive to better there community,state, and nation.Me,I join to help me stay on the right path and have something good to look back on.You may have you opinions of what the C.A.P. is about.Mabye you meet a cadet(or senior memeber.) that was lazy or was just moronic.(Our NCO is lazy but Chief Master Sargent is straighting up.)But please base you opinions on C.A.P. with facts and please not say it (type it or write it.) to make your self look idiotic. P.S. also refraim from using vulgar words.It does not make your statement look or sound very reasonable.
LOL!!!!! the music really goes along w/ this!!!!
it took me all but 0 seconds to realize that the guy front and center at 1:09 is me! changed so much since then. I think everyone's Flight Sargent told their cadets to put covers on when the highest-ranking officer had his/her own on. I had no idea this was not the case. maybe they just told us that to troll with us idk.
I was watch a Wisconsin Encampment video and i saw my Chief Master Sargent and also my tech Sargent in there
I do this at encampment each year to see who is paying attention.
Hmm I was taught different about wearing covers in the vehicle. I was told to put my cover on when the driver has his cover on If not then I would take it off
That was the point of this video, you and so many cadets like you have always been taught a myth, a rule that does not exist and never has existed. The point being next time someone tells you it's the rules, you'll know it's not, and you can tactfully and respectfully challenge them to cite said rule, because I guarantee you there is not one.
Nhân Van I was taught the same! We had to do that at encampment lol.
I was taught the same!
lol pretty funny I wish our Ranking officer would do that also greetings from Hawaii Civil Air Patrol
This brings me to my cadet days in CAP. RMR-MT-012 RMR-MT-008. Those were the two squadrons in Montana that I served in.
As a former Cadet we were taught Senior Driving cover on OHHH Get your cover on LOL now ahdays im that Senior member that does the same thing with My cadets.
It’s a cover in sea cadets
Joe Quinn This is not sea cadets 👍🏻
Skylar Caldwell got it man
Everything a Boy Scout can’t do I think
Sergeant Condor a hat for the civilian way
@@skylarcaldwell7208 it's still cover though
for some reason the main thing I paid attention to was the guy next to you who reached Spaatz
I too was a Spaatz cadet and shared with him my plan for this test haha. He also knew the hat thing wasn't a real thing either.
@@skylarcaldwell7208 lol I still got a looong way to go before Spaatz (I’m a C/Amn)
During Encampment and other activities, we don't wear hats inside vehicle's or inside, unless you are Honor Guard or Color Guard.
I was in the honor guard went to Maryland for it from 095th squadron in texarkana Texas won the spirt award while I was there in 2009 still have my wooden rifle..with everyone's name on it
😂😂i guess haveing your spatz dosnt mean you do everything right.And thanks it has been an ongoing debate in my squadron about this topic.
Being a spaatzn I can tell you it does not mean you know everything, there's a lot I don't know. But that's why we should all be experts at looking things up rather than enforcing rules that don't exist!
I have generally noticed that Active Duty Personnel tend to take it off in the vehicle.
I'm in the Air Force, we tend to take them off because it's more comfortable but it's not a requirement. I leave it on all the time, has nothing to do with the driver or rank.
THE POOOOWWWEEERR
What does CAP Do?
Nice use of the Benny Hill theme song...😂
I'm the youngest and newest Cadet where I live... They call me "The newbie" "The new girl" "Fresh meat" stuff like that.... I don't like it lol but ya know idc really..... my question is like do ppl always do that? xD
That is pretty normal. As a young cadet it can seem kind of frustrating but having been in your shoes and in their shoes later on I can guarantee you it means nothing. It's just something cadets do. Your cadet career will move quickly and before you know it you'll be a cadet staff sergeant and there will be some new airman joining.
If your in a building or anywhere inside always remove your cap
Unless you're in a vehicle :)
What squadron is this?
Hence the title of the Video,This decision is USUALLY by the Person at the Wheel,during some activities,such as Basic Encampment. At least with the Officers I had been under,so far.
Michael Saul where does it say this decision is up to the person at the wheel? An unwritten rule? Then it's not a rule. :)
Skylar Caldwell Just The Officers I had been under for the decade I served.
Michael Saul the officers were wrong. And after a decade in CAP you definitely had the time to figure out the truth ;) I was in CAP for 15 years and continually had to try to dispel this rumor. Been in the Air Force for 8 years now and not once has anyone said anything about wearing a hat in a vehicle. We all just do what we want since there's no rule on it.
Wearing a cover inside a building signify's the Sentry Of The Guard is armed with a Sidearm. That way you know who to go to incase there's a breach of Security.
Military standard in a military vehicle (covers) on. Private vehicle it's optional. C A P vehicles owned by USAF makes them military.
It's not a standard in the Air Force, and CAP vehicles are owned by the civilian CAP corporation not the Air Force.
How about we not try this while the colonel is in the vehicle.
Check out the elevator experiment.
I guess you would know who the followers are, lol. I too was told to only wear cover outdoors and do not wear them in vehicles but it’s different depending on which uniform you are wearing, no regs on the BDU’s cover in vehicles.
Is that flwg encampment?
This was Arizona 2015
Should wear the hat, its represent a nation, while outside 9f the building.
Born to late to get to wear BDUs
😢😢😢😢
No one cares, just keep it on and save time and hassle for when getting out and having your hands full.
BDUs are going out of style in 2032 I believe.
15 June 2021 is the official phase out date for BDUs in CAP.
According to the New Cadet Guide which I received roughly 2 weeks ago the BDUs are being phased out by 2021.
I heard they were almost completely phased out already. My squadron uses ABUs nos
Tye spaatz cadet should have known better
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Really a cadet colonel
lol
1. It’s not a hat it’s a cover. 2. No cause you are in doors
Matthew Peamoon 1. CAPR 39-1 6.2.7 calls it a BDU "Cap" not a cover. Cover is a navy term I believe. 2: You clearly didn't watch the video because it explains why you are wrong. :)
@@skylarcaldwell7208 Agreed - Cover is a drill term
Cover applies to the Maritime Forces. Marine Corps, Coast Guard & Navy's 8 Point Cover otherwise it's refferd to as a PC - Patrol Cap 3 Point in the Army , Air Force & Space Force .
@@Texasmilitarydepartmentvid9654 ive been in the Air Force for nearly a decade and have yet to hear a single person call it a "PC" but I hear army folks call it that all the time.
You are to take your cover off in the vehicle
I want to see the reg
Nick Sowerbutts then look at them covers are to be off in vehicles because that indoors
What reg? Where did you read this?
When you can find the citation directly from the uniform regulation that says this, I will take this video down and announce you as the new uniform expert. But until you find that citation... I'll be waiting ;)
@@skylarcaldwell7208 I found something, not really sure what it counts as but let me find it.
wow! so gay to see tryhards in cap
Hi there, publisher of this video and person driving the van in the video. I am also a member of the military, and not a try hard thanks. You have to understand the difference between military and cadet life. Being a cadet means you are constantly in training, learning the basics of the military. Learning the rules, traditions and lifestyle that comes with the military. That being said, cadets are held to a much much much higher standard than the military. Just because they have more discipline for the rules than you do, doesn't make them try hards, it makes you a slacker. :)
Skylar Caldwell cap trains for nothing honestly lol
I beg to differ. Are you/were you a member of CAP? Having been a member of CAP for 11 years I can tell you I learned a whole lot more about leadership and teamwork in CAP than in the military or school. Also there is an operations side of CAP, did you ever do that? That's real world missions from search and rescue to border protection. If you're comparing CAP to the military itself, yes the scope of what CAP does is limited, however, CAP trains for and does a whole lot more than the boy scouts, do you go around dogging on the scouts too? If that's the case... get a life :) or... should I just bow to your holiness and all knowing and godly like being... that's what you want isn't it? I mean... that's why people make fun of other people right? looking for praise and power and feel goods. Well, you wont get it here, move along :)
Not everyone is like that, but the program realizes that has been a problem in the past and is taking active steps to mitigate that issue. TIG requirements have gone up, and they are trying to limit people from shooting up in rank and getting big egos. The USAF itself is assisting in restructuring and bettering our professional development program, with our new command under ACC and First Air Force the program is seeing lots of good things for the future. Don't even pretend to tell me the military isn't just as bad. Every organization has its asshats, and I'd almost argue that I see more asshats in the military than I do in CAP. You cant judge an entire program because of a few douche bags. That's a pretty narrow vision, personally, I choose to ignore those people and make the program worth while for me and anyone who I have an influence on. It sounds to me like you had a common experience we all have, and that is a run in or two with some idiot in CAP, yeah, it happens, I wont deny that, but CAP has a lot to offer, and especially military parents are all about getting their kids involved in a program like this, its better to put up with some idiots and gain a lot of training and experience, than wasting your time on the streets.
Some cadets join C.A.P. and think it will be common to the military.Others,want something to do productive to better there community,state, and nation.Me,I join to help me stay on the right path and have something good to look back on.You may have you opinions of what the C.A.P. is about.Mabye you meet a cadet(or senior memeber.) that was lazy or was just moronic.(Our NCO is lazy but Chief Master Sargent is straighting up.)But please base you opinions on C.A.P. with facts and please not say it (type it or write it.) to make your self look idiotic. P.S. also refraim from using vulgar words.It does not make your statement look or sound very reasonable.