Freakin beautiful sequence here. Alia is terrifying. I understand that if you want to see the novel portrayed as it’s described by Herbert, you may not be satisfied by, well, any of this. But if you can separate this from the novel and simply treat it as a (studio compromised) Lynch film, there’s a lot to love.
Having lived your entire life without ever even seeing a cloud, In a world where water is so preciouses it is recovered from the dead, and the living's own waste. Where your personal wealth is measured not in monetary units but in how much water belongs to you, how would you react if water just started pouring out of the sky?
Not true. In that scene in the movie it only rained in Arrakeen. And even once the planet started to become temperate... There will always be a place on Arrakis for the worms and spice.
Charlotte Rampling (along with Ferguson) are the only two actresses who stood up in the occasion of the recent Dune... the rest were Burger actors... I also wonder whom they will cast as Reverend Mother Ramallo in t he Part II... she was portrayed by the great Italian Actress Sylvana Mangano in Lynch's version... I hope they dont cast Kim Kardashian :D
it's sad to know that child was dead from very beginning of her life. She's not completely just a husk but sure she had never the chance to build her own personality properly. She do not have her 'own' system of priority, her judgemental view of point. I think this is fate worse than death. Death could be coup de grace, Reverend mother Gaius Gelen Mohiam said the sad truth. Alia is an abomination.
When Alia uses the Voice...ai ya! That's downright terrifying. Just the way she ought to be. Flawed as this movie is (and I'm not a fan of David Lynch anyway), it did get a lot of things right, and she was one of them.
I would say it's in a way better than the book. The book never describes it as anything other than subtle changes with intonation and tone to fit the weaknesses of the person being exploited with it. Without something like internal narration though you wouldn't really know the voice is being used in the movies. This I think is a great way to make the voice obvious and ominous. Going to see Dennis' version tonight and I hope he does something similar to make it obvious when the voice is being used.
it got EVERYTHING right, it was a Masterpiece that because the critics didnt like Lynch disregarded it... it was SPECTACULAR... the recent Dune effort was a Fast Food version for the Bubble Gum Hollywood
@@LohengrinVintageMovies I beg to differ, it definitely didn't get everything right as even in the books the baron does not float, he has special apparatus' to help him get around. Also the new dune was great and am excited to see the second part.
Yes because when her Mother Jessica, Paul's Mother, drinks the Water of Life to transform into Reverend Mother and replace Reverend Mother Ramallo, she is pregnant to Alia, so Alia survives the Water of Life test as well, but becomes a Reverend Mother insideJessica's womb (GORGEOUS mythology!!! GORGEOUS!) th-cam.com/video/uk9FeRXx8kc/w-d-xo.html&t
I never understood golden path. Someone tell me please why was 3500 years of tyranny needed. Didnt finish it. And was always sorry for Duke Leto. Like.. Really sorry.
During its reign God Emperor stagnates human civilization with an iron fist, stops any kind of freedom while, stops its spreading to the rest of the universe, bans galactic travelling etc. 3500 years of his horrendous rule is such a long time that he manages to condition humankind to exact opposite of this time, "great scattering" happens where humans are scattered to never explored corners of the galaxy and have a desire for constant progress
@@Chuckyboy25 it's sad to know that child was dead from very beginning of her life. She's not completely just a husk but sure she had never the chance to build her own personality properly. She do not have her 'own' system of priority, her judgemental view of point. I think this is fate worse than death. Death could be coup de grace, Reverend mother Gaius Gelen Mohiam said the sad truth. Alia is an abomination.
it's sad to know that child was dead from very beginning of her life. She's not completely just a husk but sure she had never the chance to build her own personality properly. She do not have her 'own' system of priority, her judgemental view of point. I think this is fate worse than death. Death could be coup de grace, Reverend mother Gaius Gelen Mohiam said the sad truth. Alia is an abomination.
Hiring a convincing child actor can be difficult and they missed the mark here and tried dubbing over it to make up for her "aww cute" child actor expressions. Not every kid can be a young Hailey Joel Osmond, Kirsten Dunst, or Justin Henry.
@@LohengrinVintageMovies you realize the reason people are thinking that is because quite literally the following scene shows what looks to be ocean waves right?
@@kickedfromcampaign they should google the words metaphore, symbolism, artistic freedom, metaphysics and stop trying to place High Art inside their toilet can brain
@@LohengrinO there’s nothing academic about this. It shows rain, then the next scene is an ocean. It’s a logical conclusion that anybody with a brain would make. Except you, obviously.
Why must they be bald? Is there any explanation ever given? Villeneuve made it so the Harkonnen are the hairless bunch. Is it some kind of a Dune necessity? Some people, either a cult or a house has to be hairless and look creepy or otherwise it isn't Dune?
I understand the childish-yet-demon voice is meant to be creepy and unsettling, but it's so cliche and overdone that I cannot take this scene seriously, and am very jarred out of my immersion. : /
Freakin beautiful sequence here. Alia is terrifying. I understand that if you want to see the novel portrayed as it’s described by Herbert, you may not be satisfied by, well, any of this. But if you can separate this from the novel and simply treat it as a (studio compromised) Lynch film, there’s a lot to love.
Agree... Well said...
Far and away the most genuinely 'abomination' rendition of Alia.
Having lived your entire life without ever even seeing a cloud, In a world where water is so preciouses it is recovered from the dead, and the living's own waste. Where your personal wealth is measured not in monetary units but in how much water belongs to you, how would you react if water just started pouring out of the sky?
And here we have why a sequel was never made. The sandworms were killed off.
Not all the sand worms were killed some were removed to another planet
Golden Path
yes because when it rains everything transforms into an Ocean!!! u people are really stupid
Actually there has been made. It's called WaterWorld :)
Not true. In that scene in the movie it only rained in Arrakeen. And even once the planet started to become temperate... There will always be a place on Arrakis for the worms and spice.
“Get Out of My Mind” 😂😂
NOT UNTIL YOU TELL THEM BOTH WHO I REEEEEEEEEEEEELEEEEEEEEEE AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHM.
Alia Is badass in this version better than the other. Im curious how she’ll be portrayed in the news one
Charlotte Rampling (along with Ferguson) are the only two actresses who stood up in the occasion of the recent Dune... the rest were Burger actors... I also wonder whom they will cast as Reverend Mother Ramallo in t he Part II... she was portrayed by the great Italian Actress Sylvana Mangano in Lynch's version... I hope they dont cast Kim Kardashian :D
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@@LohengrinVintageMovies why tf would they cast Kim Kardashian???
@@he96765 why did they cast zandaya, timothe coulamet etc etc... completely ridiculous casting
@@LohengrinO because they're actors? the Kardashians aren't
Think of the epic sandcastles you could make with Dune getting all wet after a good rain!
Yes: Sian Phillips is a proper showplayer. See her in the very well directed "I, Claudius" (1976).
Alia is so powerful
it's sad to know that child was dead from very beginning of her life. She's not completely just a husk but sure she had never the chance to build her own personality properly. She do not have her 'own' system of priority, her judgemental view of point. I think this is fate worse than death. Death could be coup de grace, Reverend mother Gaius Gelen Mohiam said the sad truth. Alia is an abomination.
So Lady Jessica had two powerful children. Excited to see who's gonna play Alia in Dune part two.
I hope not one of the Kardashians 😁 Hollywood has no actors anymore
@@LohengrinO haha not them
Scarlett Johansson
Turns out to be Anya Taylor-Joy- great choice, imo!
@@Cauldron6 Fabulous choice but they butchered Alia by giving her role to Paul and giving the mom more screentime.
i'm trying to reproduce the voice in audacity for myself. anyone point me to a tutorial?
When Alia uses the Voice...ai ya! That's downright terrifying. Just the way she ought to be. Flawed as this movie is (and I'm not a fan of David Lynch anyway), it did get a lot of things right, and she was one of them.
I would say it's in a way better than the book. The book never describes it as anything other than subtle changes with intonation and tone to fit the weaknesses of the person being exploited with it. Without something like internal narration though you wouldn't really know the voice is being used in the movies. This I think is a great way to make the voice obvious and ominous. Going to see Dennis' version tonight and I hope he does something similar to make it obvious when the voice is being used.
it got EVERYTHING right, it was a Masterpiece that because the critics didnt like Lynch disregarded it... it was SPECTACULAR... the recent Dune effort was a Fast Food version for the Bubble Gum Hollywood
@@LohengrinVintageMovies I beg to differ, it definitely didn't get everything right as even in the books the baron does not float, he has special apparatus' to help him get around.
Also the new dune was great and am excited to see the second part.
The small child is a reverend mother? How astonishing.
Yes because when her Mother Jessica, Paul's Mother, drinks the Water of Life to transform into Reverend Mother and replace Reverend Mother Ramallo, she is pregnant to Alia, so Alia survives the Water of Life test as well, but becomes a Reverend Mother insideJessica's womb (GORGEOUS mythology!!! GORGEOUS!) th-cam.com/video/uk9FeRXx8kc/w-d-xo.html&t
In spiritual sense.
I never understood golden path. Someone tell me please why was 3500 years of tyranny needed. Didnt finish it.
And was always sorry for Duke Leto. Like.. Really sorry.
During its reign God Emperor stagnates human civilization with an iron fist, stops any kind of freedom while, stops its spreading to the rest of the universe, bans galactic travelling etc. 3500 years of his horrendous rule is such a long time that he manages to condition humankind to exact opposite of this time, "great scattering" happens where humans are scattered to never explored corners of the galaxy and have a desire for constant progress
@@ozberkoz to become a tyrant so all others are forgotten. So they can never claim. "X leader was great...maybe leto2 was an exception." That's why.
0:24 Facebook/Instagram ads got me
xDDDDD
For so much criticism, there was a lot good in the Lynch version, especially this scene.
but paul was not the kwizatz haderach, but one other unexpected thing.
and in real, in the book, there is no rain.
0:55 🤣
read the title as:
Alia SCAMs Reverend Mother...
She very well could! Alia is awesome.
@@Chuckyboy25 it's sad to know that child was dead from very beginning of her life. She's not completely just a husk but sure she had never the chance to build her own personality properly. She do not have her 'own' system of priority, her judgemental view of point. I think this is fate worse than death. Death could be coup de grace, Reverend mother Gaius Gelen Mohiam said the sad truth. Alia is an abomination.
Alicia Witt........
Brilliant at birth!
it's sad to know that child was dead from very beginning of her life. She's not completely just a husk but sure she had never the chance to build her own personality properly. She do not have her 'own' system of priority, her judgemental view of point. I think this is fate worse than death. Death could be coup de grace, Reverend mother Gaius Gelen Mohiam said the sad truth. Alia is an abomination.
she missed the part that Alia is her and the baron's own granddaughter. yup she personally killed her own grandma and grandpa
Hiring a convincing child actor can be difficult and they missed the mark here and tried dubbing over it to make up for her "aww cute" child actor expressions. Not every kid can be a young Hailey Joel Osmond, Kirsten Dunst, or Justin Henry.
So the sand worms all drown?
it rains not everything transforms into Ocean with a rain :D
@@LohengrinVintageMovies you realize the reason people are thinking that is because quite literally the following scene shows what looks to be ocean waves right?
@@kickedfromcampaign they should google the words metaphore, symbolism, artistic freedom, metaphysics and stop trying to place High Art inside their toilet can brain
@@LohengrinO fair but at the same time you shouldn't ever expect anything from anybody because it will always lead to disappointment
@@LohengrinO there’s nothing academic about this. It shows rain, then the next scene is an ocean. It’s a logical conclusion that anybody with a brain would make. Except you, obviously.
Pause at 0:57 she kinda looks like Scarlet Johansson
And Sheng-Ji Yang standing in the middle of the group behind her
Yea the far right one, yea good eye
For he did test drive the new Cadillac!
She looks like Liv Tyler
"Sian" is Welsh for "Jane".
alia daughter of duke (forgets) 0:38 leto
0:24 😂😂
"NATALIE."
Why must they be bald? Is there any explanation ever given?
Villeneuve made it so the Harkonnen are the hairless bunch. Is it some kind of a Dune necessity? Some people, either a cult or a house has to be hairless and look creepy or otherwise it isn't Dune?
Was alia's voice dubbed? i know this sounds like a stupid question but....
No actually! That's Alicia Witt performing. Apparently she would use that voice to prank the other actors on set.
I understand the childish-yet-demon voice is meant to be creepy and unsettling, but it's so cliche and overdone that I cannot take this scene seriously, and am very jarred out of my immersion. : /
I just finished binging Sex and the City and I just now realized that Charlotte's first husband was originally the Paul Atreides in this film. 🥹