bro that shit was so annoying like, BITCH YOU WERE GRILLING HIM FOR EATING AT TACOBELL, THEY SAY WHY THATS DUMB, AND YOU GET ALL DEFENSIVE AND ACT LIKE THEYRE BEING WEIRD
@@abagofchipzlol3667 for context's sake, 3:34 is the first mention of Taco Bell, with Brandon explaining what he orders. 13:09 is the second mention. 13:24 Patty and Elizabeth very calmly and non-confrontationally say that there are vegan options at TB. 13:48 Erin flabbergasted that her word isn't taken as gospel and pretending they ganged up on her.
she’s definitely made him not want to be vegan. shes made it out to be like a religion, and I know I left my religion and found it to not be the truth because of others making me feel unwelcome and that I was doing everything wrong. I really dislike people like her who think they have some kind of superiority over others in that way
It was completely unfair for Erin to attack Brandon the entire time and then when the rest of the group stood up for him a little bit she victimized herself??? Hello???
I am so HAPPY Erin didn’t root out the mole cause it shows her condescending behavior and supposed “expertise” wasn’t good enough to do the one job she had.
@@ThePrinceHerbWasn’t it glorious watching her lose and have her soul crushed right in front of us? Lol it couldn’t have happened to a better (or worse) person. People like her trick themselves into believing things that aren’t true, strictly based off of the fact that their narcissism causes them to believe they’re correct about everything 100% of the time. Man, she was SO obnoxious. Idk how people like her have friends, if I’m being honest. I truly couldn’t be her friend lol 🤷♂️ Side note: Meat, particularly steak, is a gift from God and should be enjoyed by all humans 🐮🥩🍖 🥓 Bacon as well lol
Been vegetarian for 8 years and I refrain from telling people unless they’re close to me so I don’t get mistaken for people like Erin. She’s doing so much more harm than good
ummm chicks are actually not vegan according to my encyclopedia of veganism, chicks are baby chickens and chickens are made of meat and using the m word in a sentence is against the policies so maybe you should rethink your wording.
Exactly, the goal is to consume less meat to reduce animal cruelty not live a militant vegan lifestyle. If Americans ate meat one less day a week that'd be a huge shift not that Erin would care about that.
@@Lucarioguild7I’d even go so far as to say you can have the ultimate goal of living a militant vegan life style, but trying to impose that on others in such a vicious and frankly annoying manner is counterintuitive.
EXACTLY, even if you can reduce meat consumption a few times a week, that is very helpful. Imagine if half the world that eats meat didn't for one day a week or something, that would be a great start!
The fact that Brandon was the ONLY on getting grilled is so funny. Poor dude was just trying to be vegan step by step. The fact that every food he named was vegan is crazy.
Brandon is the person I’d most want to be friends with and learn about veganism from, if I could choose anyone in this group. His story and motivations were interesting and I kept getting frustrated when he was cut off or judged.
They way Erin behaved sucked and Brandon seems like a sweet guy who’s trying his best but he actually wasn’t vegan. Honey isn’t vegan and if he’s still eating it, he’s vegetarian. Which is fine! When I first tried to be vegan I also ate honey because I didn’t know it’s not vegan. Depends on how you act after people tell you that the things you do/eat aren’t actually vegan.
@@kj285 Tbf there is still debate within vegan communities about whether it's ethical for vegans to eat honey. Honey production is very important for the environment. People usually raise bees for the honey and considering the decline of wild bees due to pesticides and urbanization of the environment, raising bees is a very very good thing. Removing honey generally doesn't harm hives and hives can even become "honey bound," requiring the hive to move altogether as there's no longer space to lay eggs. It is a nuanced issue and Erin is quite unreasonable to insist *no* vegans eat honey.
This was made a few years back, I remembered ppl harassed her into disappearing off social media but idk what happened afterwards. But she sure got the memo haha
@@ksina5458 Nerds are vegan which is why she kept pressuring him to name another one and once he said sour patch kids she went all crazy even tho they r in fact vegan. She ignored the nerds response cuz she knew damn well those were vegan
Guarentee she's the one who's gonna have a breakdown in 5 years, go to town on a cheeseburger and decides to give up on veganism altogether. Been a vegetarian for years, it's always the most strict who do the least because they end up giving up.
Erin is the textbook definition of insufferable. I don't think I could spend more than 10 minutes around a person like that without having to excuse myself from the room.
as a vegan, erin INFURIATES me. most of us want so badly to be inclusive and accepting so others get just as excited or at the least more open minded than the norm about alternative options and the sustainability of the lifestyle, and people like her give us the worst rep. she’s actively doing damage that she’s attempting to stop by belittling people and making them feel unsafe/unsure within themselves to try anything new
Right I have a vegan friend from my first ever job and she would always let us try her food and her like impossible meat and answer our questions about veganism which made and makes me consider being vegan but Erin was just so aggressive for no reason and he said he just became a vegan lol
she's right though, veganism is an ethical belief to minimize animal suffering as much as possible, and it's not just a diet. this undermines the whole movement, especially when people just use it to be trendy and go on and off. but tbh she could've taken Brandon aside after the show and talked in private about things like 'hey if you still use/consume animal products you're not vegan but just eating a plant based diet, because veganism is a lifestyle choice' and give him tips on how he can change things like suggest good candy and explain why honey is not vegan. and maybe suggest some documentaries or something 100% agree with what she said, but 0% agree with the delivery and time and place too.
Not everyone is as educated on veganism but at least he's trying. She wasn't helpful at all, she was pratronizing and condescending. She's exactly the type of person to push people away from wanting to be vegan. Him wanting to do it for his overall health is his main reason which is still considered veganism seeing as there are different categories of veganism. He was still very new to it so having someone from that community come in and completely bash him and his willingness to try is just gross. @@iamtherealbritney
I just hate how Brandon was literally questioning himself because Erin has a superiority complex and made him feel like because he wasn’t making sure if the soap he used was vegan he’s wasn’t a real vegan. Also she asked about candy then says she doesn’t eat candy like wtf why did you ask?
cause she knew the candy one would be an easy "gotcha" for someone who isn't super vigilent with every single ingredient. Lots of candy "seems" vegan but in reality has gelatin or colouring made from bugs etc.
@@eedaj The most annoying thing is they are basically vegan. There are some potential ethical issues with the processing of some cane sugar (using bone char), but they don't directly use animal products. If she actually knew that she could've lightly suggested that maybe the production isn't as ethical as would be ideal. But she flat out stated it wasn't vegan which makes me think she pulled it out of her ass.
Right?? And not only that, he TOLD her that he went vegan only a few months ago, where she's been vegan for TEN YEARS. Of course he's not going to be perfect.
@@veemaxine5257she said 10 years COMBINED, which means she must have fallen off the wagon once or twice. She should be able to have empathy for those just starting out and softly correct their honest mistakes; every vegan should be excited for those who are putting in any kind of effort to be more sustainable. Unfortunately, her superiority complex makes her absolutely unforgiving. Funny how she targets Brandon the entire game, but plays victim when everyone softly corrects her on a mistake SHE made.
I bet that Erin was fighting with the producers afterwards like “well technically Brandon isn’t a REAL vegan so we should still get the money because we did vote the NON vegan out 😤”
i wish the producers fact checked during the episode so that after the conversation they could tell erin "btw taco bell wraps and sour patch kids ARE vegan"
@@TylerWardhaha Yeah andI feel like when Brandon got eliminated he definitely searched it up and realized he was in fact right. He seems so sweet tho he prob didnt say anything
Erin is literally the kind of person that makes people staunchly anti-vegan and makes people think that making better choices has to be 100% all or nothing. I feel so bad for Brandon being bullied by that weirdo.
@@paradoxicalmadness4507 around 1% of the world is vegan, in the us and eu it's around 2%. thats 1 in 50. so unless you never left your house and never interacted with anyone outside since you were born, the odds of you not having interacted with tons of vegans over the years is practically zero. it's like saying you've never talked to an orphan, obviously you have but they just didnt mention it :)
@@NacrunoCreationswhere the fuck do you get your statistics from lmfao. I’d guess its far more likely to be 0.00001%. did that study ask the entire world or just a small group of people willing to answer?
@@zig_da_pigI’m not anymore, but when I was vegan for 6 years taco bell was a savior. You can order anything “el fresca” style & they will replace all the dairy with salsa. That’s probably not good enough for bougie raw vegans, but it is better than nothing and accessible.
@@abbyz13 I know, but she was trying to tell the other guy that Taco Bell couldn't be vegan because there's eggs in the tortillas, but that's just false. She was just lying or she just didn't know the truth.
its the way she interacts in the competition. like no tact, politness. idt this is how she necesserily is in normal settings where theres no prize to win
I've been vegan for over ten years, and Erin's behaviour is really disheartening, it's about minimising harm, and encouraging people to become aware, not being competitive and morally superior. And sour patch kids are vegan, jesus h.
especially bc she was talking down to newly transitioned vegans. diets are hard to change, and you can’t look up all the ingredients to every single thing all the time…god forbid she make them feel welcome.
Bruh as a korean that eats buckwheat, that buckwheat comment from Erin made me laugh cuz for someone who practices things other cultures like yoga, she certainly isnt very open to the possibility of other cultures eating more uncommon foods
Ikr, eastern european here, we eat that stuff all the time. Hearing this ascended being go wHo eAtS bUckWhEaT with such a condescending tone made me roll. Millions of people, missma’am.
right, and it's funny she pushes people away/gaslights people who are trying to be vegan when she thinks that's a good thing. also, serving raw food doesn't even make one a chef, so she needs to check herself (lol kinda joking)
For me the issue is that Erin sniffed out the most insecure person in it's veganism and that was Brandon, because he wasn't vegan for that long and then she just went to town on him. It's just sad to see people take a morally superior stance over people instead of encouraging them or being understanding. Sad.
She's the perfect example of why people have a bad opinion of vegans. When someone says they're vegan we think of someone exactly like her: militant, pushy, angry, lecturing, judgmental. You don't want to be around someone like that. You can't be yourself because they're constantly judging you. And it's even worse if you aren't vegan. So for someone like Brandon who is new to veganism, meeting someone like Erin has to be demoralizing and embarrassing. I can see why he was questioning himself. Erin was the worst person for him to meet. I wouldn't be surprised if he said "forget it. I'll just go back to eating meat. Apparently I'm messing this all up and have no idea what I'm doing."
It's sad cause veganism isn't bad in itself at all but the vegans that gatekeep and bully like Erin make it such a toxic community that actually prevents other people from considering veganism. Instead of encouraging people if they take a step towards becoming vegan, they're always like "that's not good enough, you can't have this" "you're not a REAL vegan", I've literally seen a lot of people stop being vegan or vegetarian cause of that doubt Brandon was feeling after being grilled by Erin. She may as well just say "you can't sit with us" lol this literally has the same vibe
If i was vegan and met someone like that, I'd straight up chow down on a rare steak just to put her in her place....shes not a vegan shes someone who needs an excuse to enforce her "presumed superiority"
What sucks is Brandon was a new vegan so obviously it makes sense that even if he was doing it for more than just food (which in itself is literally fine and normal lol) he wouldn't have every single thing figured out yet. Poor guy. I wonder if he's still vegan today, or if Erin traumatized him too much lol
Also, Erin is so not knowledgeable about veganism outside of her own bubble. I'm not even vegan and somehow I knew that people can be vegan for lots of reasons. When she said "his ethics didn't match" I went ???? ok???? There's no ONE single reason for people to eat vegan lol she's wild
Erin is exactly the type of person who does more bad than good for the vegan community. You cant be that self righteous and aggressive and have people be open to your message of veganism.
@@pregerzoreo4886Abuse isn't an intrinsic trait. Everyone is capable of learning and doing better. Being an abrasive person isn't going to help if you have a goal of winning people over to your side.
@@ElixirSpice when did I state it to be an intrinsic trait? I said you either something or you are not that does not imply it's intrinsic, you could say you either passed this test or you didn't that doesn't mean that is intrinsic either it's just a statement to show how two things are dichotomous
As soon as Brandon said he went to Taco Bell all the time and got a crunchwrap done fresco, with beans instead of beef, I knew he was vegan. Same, brother.
Love how Erin believes she has the moral high ground because she's a strict vegan when being rude and disrespectful to someone is probably one of the most immoral things you can do. I get this was a game with a cash prize but you couldn't pay me to be that mean to someone.
I really love that while reveling in her own self proclaimed ethical superiority, Erin is so obviously wearing fast fashion brands which are some of the biggest contributors to environmental devastation and sweatshop labor. But whatever. Enjoy feeling better than everyone else because you don't drink milk.
as a long time vegan, tacobell is literally the most realistic & easily veganizable fast food spots and sour patches are famously vegan wtf is this girl ON
@@maryschlidt6693 Same, I’ve been vegan for a few years and haven’t met a single raw vegan irl in that time. I think it’s because in order to eat fully raw, you need an amount of money and privilege that a lot of people will just never have. The cheapest and longest lasting vegan foods are things like dried beans and rice bought in bulk. Fresh produce is expensive and goes bad fast so you have to go shopping several days a week. Most people can’t afford that and don’t have enough free time to make salads and smoothies for every meal 🫠 and coming from that level of privilege can definitely make a person out of touch with reality, thus the bizarre way a lot of raw vegans act
Erin is really giving the rest of us a bad name. She is so hostile and judgmental when the rest of us are just doing our best and define our own boundaries. For example when Mallewi (denim jacket guy) said he still wore leather he's had for years. That might not technically be vegan but it's sure as shit more durable and ethical than throwing it in the garbage and buying some bullshit "vegan leather" from Shein. Erin does not care about that. She cares about being right and being better than people.
@WinWinWooListen Erin, it’s a fair “assumption” because you literally spent the entire video judging people and assuming things weren’t vegan that absolutely were. Lol. Erin clearly wanted to be right more than anything else
@@BabyMango Honestly, in my opinion, everything you don't buy yourself, you don't have control over anyway. People often call me out for eating the birthday cake at a party when there is no other food and I am hungry. Does it contribute, in any way, to more demand for birthday cake? No. Would the people have brought it anyway? Yes. (but I understand when people say that it's not vegan!) When I bring stuff to parties, it's always vegan. My grandma doesn't understand veganism (I've explained it for +7 years now) and instead of discussing it with her too much and her being confused, I let it be. I try to focus on her trying her best and her caring so much that she still makes food for me and sometimes I'll drop the lil "oh, erm, that is not vegan technically" and she's like: o___o (out of confusion) I have a vegan friend that literally got wildly angry at me because I was happy to be able to drive a car. It has been a dream of mine for +10 years and it was an emotional process for me because I used to drive in the car with my dad a lot ... anyway, I was shoked to the core how angry he got at me for "not caring about the environment" and he said "you wouldn't be happy about driving a car if you knew how bad it was." ... it was ... so shocking and sad, honestly. It contributes nothing but hate. I now own a car just to experience it once in my life how it is, I don't even know if I'll drive it often or how long I'll keep it for. But, yeah, I am the devil and the sole reason for climate change. When I am on my death bed, I want to be able to say that most of my life has been vegan and that's it. There is no such thing as a 100% life without cruelty agains living things (including children i.e. child slavery/work) under this capitalism anyway. The only thing we can do is try our best and not strive for perfection while hurting ourselves or others. I am always happy when my friends tell me that they eat less meat now and I'm like "you go gurlll" but that's it. Lol, sorry for my random rant in this comment section but I have a thing with those vegan Erins, they actually scare the heck out of me now ^^'
@UkjACk300, but we can ensure we don't explicitly pay for abuse. You conflate necessity and choice. You choose to eat animal products (when people buy them), but you can't decide to avoid child slavery with products like phones
@@UkjACk300I completely get what you're saying and some people would disagree, but I don't think there even is a right answer. I'm only vegetarian but people will say like "well I bought this meat and if you don't eat it then I will eat it anyways so you're not really contributing to the problem or supporting it, so you might as well." But I think if I were to eat it, I would still be contributing to it because then they might start buying more expecting me to eat some of it or something like that. I get the cake thing though it would probably go in the garbage anyway. I feel like vegetarianism is so much easier not only for the obvious reasons but also because it's much more defined than veganism. veganism has so many levels and variations to it. I think it's just about what it means to you personally, and the reason why you do it. Mad respect to those who do because the amount of research you have to do alone would be insane.
13:44 her victimizing herself after everyone said she was wrong about Taco Bell drove me nuts. People are trying to tell you because you’re wrong. Doesn’t want to hear she’s wrong but I bet she’s the kind of person that tells people they need to “educate themselves”.
poor Brandon, he was already making a big impact by not eating meat & dairy, and someone like Erin puts people off even trying to be vegan or reducing their meat intake. It doesn't have to be all or nothing
@@agnosticmanquestionsall2409 so if a person who has been vegan for 10 years accidentally eats or drinks something that has regular milk instead of like soy milk do they just lose their vegan certificate forever?? like be fr, it's about the intention, also all the shit that Erin called him out on turned out to actually be vegan, so she was straight up wrong. Maybe the honey thing, but there's ethical honey producers. I had a friend who was 100% vegan but she would eat eggs every now and then bc our other friend had chickens and she knew they were ethically sourced. Ppl like Brandon are already doing way more for the environment than ppl like Erin who give vegans a bad rep and make it this super strict thing where if you fuck up once you're a terrible person.
Erin’s attitude of self superiority towards Brandon is so comical when you realize she was wrong about nearly everything she attacked him for. Buckwheat isn’t a normal breakfast food: *wrong* Taco Bell doesn’t have vegan options: *wrong* Sour patch kids aren’t vegan: *wrong* Meanwhile Brandon (humble king that he was in this video) is still going strong as a vegan (and enjoying sour patch kids) all these years later according to his instagram.
She's definitely being unnecessarily aggressive, but she is not wrong on "nearly everything". I think at the time the video was made, the distinction between plant-based and vegan wasn't as common. Brandon is plant-based and shouldn't have been attacked for it, Erin is a vegan because the essence of veganism is based on a moral philosophy. She assumed everyone else in that room was vegan in the definition that she was and then it got confusing. inb4 everyone thinks i'm defending her, I am not.
She gives me the same vibes as a person who quit smoking cigs for a few months and just starts levitating two inches off the ground everytime they talk to someone who still smokes cigs
they’re not actually, the way they process the sugar it’s filtered through bones or something. i don’t remember exactly but i watched this video when it first came out so i looked it up
@@soybeanokra that's an extremely old way of processing sugar and it's highly unlikely they still do it that way. also it's one of those things most vegans don't care about bc it's nearly impossible to avoid.
if i had to guess, probably super insecure and undefined. she acts like she found all her self-worth and identity in being vegan, which allows her to feel like she’s inherently better than others.
Well she did say she had a substance abuse issue so she probably didnt form any identity or self worth. Then she found veganism and used that to elevate her self worth.
She said she used to be an alcoholic so I think we have a good idea. And alcoholism kills your braincells, so it makes sense why she is the way she is even though she's vegan now, you can't reverse that😅
My favorite is when head vegan girl acts like everyone is attacking her as they kindly explain vegan options at TacoBell, meanwhile she's been attacking every person who dares to speak for 10 minutes straight.
Fun fact for the crazy vegan- the honey market (most specifically local farms) actually HELPS bees because the process doesn't harm bees and it helps bee populations :)
dangerous half knowledge: The problem is dieing of wild bees. So domestic bees often dont help or even do harm. But im with you, honey eating isnt that bad.
YeSSSSS THIS! Eating honey actually causes the least harm for bees and the environment so it is in line with vegan morals. I always find it so funny when hard line vegans are so literal
Thats not neccesarily true. A lot of beekeeping does damage to the enviroment (w certain pesticides for instance) and als o sometimes uses cruel or exploitative practices like clipping the wings of the queen bee. There's plenty of non-harmful beekeeping (look for local small-beekeing-byuisnesses and traditional beekeeping) but it bothers me to consistently see this misinfo being spread that all beekeeping is ethical when in reality a lot of it is bad for both the bees and the enviroment.
i feel like brandon just wanted to have a normal day at work and jubilee just tossed him in here- poor guy did not sign up for erin’s “that’s not vegan”
Erin ruthlessly grilling everyone about how pure of a vegan they are. They softly correct her about taco bell, "I dont know why you guys are trying to tell me what-"
When a group of people try to convince others to make a lifestyle change or to better themselves, and a person tries to make changes, and the group basically makes them feel like they are not good enough and tear them down, that is what will turn them away. I felt bad for Brandon.
EXACTLY. It's so upsetting. As a vegan, I do everything I can to squash the in-fighting, and try to approach people with positivity. Also the preachiness is annoying too. But it's the policing that can literally make someone step back from the thing they were initially passionate about.
as a russian hearing erin say “who eats buckwheat” is so weird. in here it’s one of the most consumed grains and when COVID started people were fighting each other for in in the stores. and btw it tastes amazing if you know how to make it right so it’s not a surprise that many people eat it…..🤷🏼♀️
I was also like o.0 and I don’t even have it that much as an American, but I know a lot of people who are “gluten sensitive but not gluten allergic” who tolerate and use buckwheat for EVERYTHING. She literally just acted out her assumption without regard to any facts or realities because she likes to feel superior.
yes!! im russian too and buckwheat is sooo popular …. justice to греча she didn’t deserve it 😔🙏 никогда не понимала почему она такая непопулярная на западе
Lmao at the entire group convincing themselves NOT to raise their hands at the end, despite their very visible uncertainty, all because the loudest/most obnoxious people in the group (led by Erin) bullied them into a bad decision. They all deserve it for not standing up to her. I wish the producers had just done a plot twist and given Brandon the prize, to make up for his bad treatment.
brandon was instantly so likable to me he just seems like such a relaxed and friendly guy i would love to talk to him about breakfast lol. erins attitude towards veganism seemed unnecessarily strict when it came to other people like do what u want but uhm eating honey actually helps out the bees and promotes the save the bees movement and then with the leather like... pleather is worse for the earth and theres really no reason to be anti-vintage or second hand leather bc it already exists and like... if you take a "use every part of the animal" approach its still supporting animal rights??? i dont understand the extremism bc its just not helpful. honestly i think erin was so insufferable because shes always hungry like girl please let yourself experience joy so that you can stop making everyone around you miserable
And they bring it up mostly because of people like her. Everybody thinks being vegan is now your only personality trait because that's what she portraits.
As a vegan (over ten years now) I hate people who approach veganism like Erin. How are are we supposed to convince people to become vegan if they feel harassed 😭 never understood the aggression if you’re not being insulted first!
I've been toying with the idea of having specific vegan days in my week, like only eating vegan foods on Tuesdays and Thursdays to at least *contribute* to the good that vegans are trying to do, but I feel like I'd get reamed if I told people I was only vegan sometimes haha - I know that's only a handful of the vegan population but they are SO vocal and aggressive that it scares people away
Well favourite doesn't mean to love something, you can have a favourite vegan documentary that involves animal slaughtering and it be your favourite because it say, made you go vegan.
@@swaggerline8918no vegan i have ever known has a “favorite” animal cruelty documentary. they might have one that stood out…but no one loooves those documentaries. they exist to inform, not to be rewatched and enjoyed. that’s why i think it was dumb to expect exact titles rapid fire like she did
@@abbyz13 As I said in half of my comment, a favourite doesn't imply loving something. Land of Hope and Glory would be my favourite vegan documentary, because it depicts the industry-standard cruelty these animals go through, and the cognitive dissonance of us as a society in allowing these things happen to them. I don't 'love' the documentary. The last thing you mention answers a question nobody here raises though. Favourite doesn't imply enjoyment either.
@@abbyz13Just because something is meant to inform doesnt mean it cant be something youlove... If someone becomes vegan because they dislike animaI cruelty, it follows that they are very passionate about the subject and seeing how widespread meat-eating culture is and how much vegans are mocked, it makes sense that some vegans will have an attachment or love for a documentary that helps to vindicate them by exposing how crueI the meat industry is. YaII are nitpicking what she says but ironically what yaII are saying makes no sense. She enjoys those informative documentaries so she assumed that others would feel the same, it's not that deep
erin's the type of white american that walks into her poc friend's home, asks if it's a no-shoe household, and then in prayer position whispers "your home is so beautiful. thank you."
i hope erin knows that there is an entire massive group of people out here who genuinely despise her. if i was in the room w her we would not have gotten along well is all i’m gonna say.
no truly ??? bc as a vegan, we want so badly to be inclusive n get people interested and excited about what we consume and the how much more sustainable the lifestyle is, and insufferable people like her make it SO difficult
Ever since I watched this video a year ago, I’ve wanted someone to watch it and experience the amount of anger and frustration I felt watching it because of Erin and her questions. Thank you, Cody.
I’ve revisited this episode time and time again just to think to myself “This is exactly who I do not want to be” and it keeps me level. I can be a bit of a button pusher online out of fun but in reality just be kind and not a prick. Looking at you, Erin.
The way she got defensive after someone treated her the way she treated everyone else is amazing
literally. definition of matching someone’s energy 💀😂
and they were way less intense too they were nice abt it 😭
bro that shit was so annoying like, BITCH YOU WERE GRILLING HIM FOR EATING AT TACOBELL, THEY SAY WHY THATS DUMB, AND YOU GET ALL DEFENSIVE AND ACT LIKE THEYRE BEING WEIRD
Time stamp that shit bro lol, I wanna c but don’t wanna watch the whole video
@@abagofchipzlol3667 for context's sake, 3:34 is the first mention of Taco Bell, with Brandon explaining what he orders. 13:09 is the second mention.
13:24 Patty and Elizabeth very calmly and non-confrontationally say that there are vegan options at TB. 13:48 Erin flabbergasted that her word isn't taken as gospel and pretending they ganged up on her.
I feel like Brandon deserved an apology after being berated. Poor dude
I dont think a lady like erin would really apologize though.
@@Jackson-cd3mv "I'm sorry YOU don't understand what being a real vegan is" vibes, you're so right
Gods are all knowing and never wrong, so she will apologize for NOTHING! 😂
Fr even some of the things she attacked him about were actually vegan. She was wrong but she ofc isn't the type to apologize.
she’s definitely made him not want to be vegan. shes made it out to be like a religion, and I know I left my religion and found it to not be the truth because of others making me feel unwelcome and that I was doing everything wrong. I really dislike people like her who think they have some kind of superiority over others in that way
Erin wasnt looking for the fake vegan , she was looking for the TRUE vegan
(aka herself and having to prove it to everyone)
oh shit this deep
She sucked
She was looking for a single crack in a single story of a single person’s life
so real
It was completely unfair for Erin to attack Brandon the entire time and then when the rest of the group stood up for him a little bit she victimized herself??? Hello???
can i say it… typical PETA vegan? LOL
I am so HAPPY Erin didn’t root out the mole cause it shows her condescending behavior and supposed “expertise” wasn’t good enough to do the one job she had.
@@ThePrinceHerbWasn’t it glorious watching her lose and have her soul crushed right in front of us? Lol it couldn’t have happened to a better (or worse) person. People like her trick themselves into believing things that aren’t true, strictly based off of the fact that their narcissism causes them to believe they’re correct about everything 100% of the time. Man, she was SO obnoxious. Idk how people like her have friends, if I’m being honest. I truly couldn’t be her friend lol 🤷♂️
Side note: Meat, particularly steak, is a gift from God and should be enjoyed by all humans 🐮🥩🍖
🥓 Bacon as well lol
Been vegetarian for 8 years and I refrain from telling people unless they’re close to me so I don’t get mistaken for people like Erin. She’s doing so much more harm than good
That was painful to watch! Let someone agree with Brandon FFS. She had it out for him.
That chick wasn't here to win she was there to prove she was the most vegan of the vegans
ummm chicks are actually not vegan according to my encyclopedia of veganism, chicks are baby chickens and chickens are made of meat and using the m word in a sentence is against the policies so maybe you should rethink your wording.
@@helengrugettwhat the fuck 😂
@@helengrugett you gotta be related to her
If she was the odd one out it would have been a good tactic but she was just annoying
@@helengrugett👏😂
For a yoga teacher, Erin is extremely stress-inducing
She’s only got the most childishly shallow understanding of yoga, clearly
its a marketing strategy
LMFAOOO
@@whm3317 REALL
heyyyy I see ur trying to do chatturanga dandasana and your hips are in the wrong place! Oh that’s as far as you can go? Then you can go, away :)))
"I could have had 5 vegan friends, but they all voted me out" broke my heart :(
What a nice attitude that is, wish it was the norm even more + that more vegans had the courage to oust the assholes, y’know?
Poor dude!
IKR😭😭😭
dodged a bullet
That was the worst part 😭😭😭 lol
Erin doesn’t realize the biggest impact is gonna be made by lots of people doing veganism imperfectly, not by only a few doing it perfectly.
Exactly, the goal is to consume less meat to reduce animal cruelty not live a militant vegan lifestyle. If Americans ate meat one less day a week that'd be a huge shift not that Erin would care about that.
True, shes making it about herself.
@@Lucarioguild7I’d even go so far as to say you can have the ultimate goal of living a militant vegan life style, but trying to impose that on others in such a vicious and frankly annoying manner is counterintuitive.
EXACTLY, even if you can reduce meat consumption a few times a week, that is very helpful. Imagine if half the world that eats meat didn't for one day a week or something, that would be a great start!
PERIOD
The fact that Brandon was the ONLY on getting grilled is so funny. Poor dude was just trying to be vegan step by step. The fact that every food he named was vegan is crazy.
Brandon is the person I’d most want to be friends with and learn about veganism from, if I could choose anyone in this group.
His story and motivations were interesting and I kept getting frustrated when he was cut off or judged.
They way Erin behaved sucked and Brandon seems like a sweet guy who’s trying his best but he actually wasn’t vegan. Honey isn’t vegan and if he’s still eating it, he’s vegetarian. Which is fine! When I first tried to be vegan I also ate honey because I didn’t know it’s not vegan. Depends on how you act after people tell you that the things you do/eat aren’t actually vegan.
@@kj285
Tbf there is still debate within vegan communities about whether it's ethical for vegans to eat honey.
Honey production is very important for the environment.
People usually raise bees for the honey and considering the decline of wild bees due to pesticides and urbanization of the environment, raising bees is a very very good thing.
Removing honey generally doesn't harm hives and hives can even become "honey bound," requiring the hive to move altogether as there's no longer space to lay eggs.
It is a nuanced issue and Erin is quite unreasonable to insist *no* vegans eat honey.
@@kj285people like you and erin give veganism a bad name and scare people away from veganism
sour patch kids are not vegan
i hope erin watches this video and realizes how embarrassing she was being
Tbh I bet it lives with her far more often than she’s willing to admit
probably not. entitled beach.
she really wont
@@monmon21050 not enough energy?
This was made a few years back, I remembered ppl harassed her into disappearing off social media but idk what happened afterwards.
But she sure got the memo haha
I really wanted them to vote Erin out just to piss her off lol
it would have been the biggest W for all of humanity to see her get booted off.
@@HollowdTVfr she’s literally the most intolerable person, I’m just she didn’t get any money she doesn’t deserve it with that attitude lol
That honestly would’ve been hilarious
Erin: "not to cut you off"
* cuts you off*
lmao right
If Erin ate candy, she would know that Sour Patch Kids are indeed vegan. And Oreos, too, the most important accidentally vegan snack.
Look at her. She's definitely snacking.
My thoughts exactly. Also aren’t Nerds vegan too?
@@ksina5458 Nerds are vegan which is why she kept pressuring him to name another one and once he said sour patch kids she went all crazy even tho they r in fact vegan. She ignored the nerds response cuz she knew damn well those were vegan
THATS WHAT I WAS CONFUSED ABT LIKE WHAT
Hardcore vegans be like ok no gelatin but the sugar is processed with animal bone char
Erin wasn't even there to play the game she just asked leading questions so she could catch people out and assert her superiority as a vegan
As the "better" / "real" vegan
Guarentee she's the one who's gonna have a breakdown in 5 years, go to town on a cheeseburger and decides to give up on veganism altogether. Been a vegetarian for years, it's always the most strict who do the least because they end up giving up.
Spot on!
@@ArturGlass.Cfemale.version of nickocado avocado
Naturally people who doesn't abuse animals, are superior.
Erin is the textbook definition of insufferable. I don't think I could spend more than 10 minutes around a person like that without having to excuse myself from the room.
I wouldn’t last 30 seconds
10? God damn this person must have super powers
she's also pretty great for a textbook definition of gatekeeping
Dude insufferable was the exact word that came to mind listening to her
THATS NOT VEGAN
I wanna give Brandon a hug. He was so tame and he had to compete against Erin, the most obnoxious person on Jubilee ever.
i agree… she made me cringe
Erin was absolutely hideous. I’m glad I don’t know her
Vegans are crazy bro. Self-righteous to the core. Can't stand them
Erin and that incel guy should date. They are the perfection of obnoxiousness and cringe.
nina
as a vegan, erin INFURIATES me. most of us want so badly to be inclusive and accepting so others get just as excited or at the least more open minded than the norm about alternative options and the sustainability of the lifestyle, and people like her give us the worst rep. she’s actively doing damage that she’s attempting to stop by belittling people and making them feel unsafe/unsure within themselves to try anything new
@@strawberry.peppermint0101 and also wouldn't wear fast fashion. It seems like her main reason for being vegan is to feel morally superior :(
Exactly!!!!
exactly!!! i’m a vegan too and these were my thoughts exactly
Very well said.
Right I have a vegan friend from my first ever job and she would always let us try her food and her like impossible meat and answer our questions about veganism which made and makes me consider being vegan but Erin was just so aggressive for no reason and he said he just became a vegan lol
Erin didn't want to vote out the liar, she wanted to tear someone apart for not being a vegan that met her own standards. Idk how people are like that
fr
she's right though, veganism is an ethical belief to minimize animal suffering as much as possible, and it's not just a diet. this undermines the whole movement, especially when people just use it to be trendy and go on and off.
but tbh she could've taken Brandon aside after the show and talked in private about things like 'hey if you still use/consume animal products you're not vegan but just eating a plant based diet, because veganism is a lifestyle choice' and give him tips on how he can change things like suggest good candy and explain why honey is not vegan. and maybe suggest some documentaries or something
100% agree with what she said, but 0% agree with the delivery and time and place too.
Not everyone is as educated on veganism but at least he's trying. She wasn't helpful at all, she was pratronizing and condescending. She's exactly the type of person to push people away from wanting to be vegan. Him wanting to do it for his overall health is his main reason which is still considered veganism seeing as there are different categories of veganism. He was still very new to it so having someone from that community come in and completely bash him and his willingness to try is just gross. @@iamtherealbritney
mayor of yappington
@@iamtherealbritney
@@iamtherealbritneyBrandon said he’s vegan for health reasons. He has zero obligation to adhere to every facet of veganism.
brandon was literally gaslit by erin into thinking he wasn’t vegan
He isn't. He has a plant based diet. Veganism means you avoid all animal products, not just in your diet.
@@jelatinosawhat academy gives you a badge in vegan policing? doesn’t seem like a lucrative career but i’m glad ur happy
@@abbyz13I’m dead 😂
@@abbyz13 umm it's easy to just look up the definition you know. Don't be so lazy.
@@jelatinosahe said he doesn’t own leather, what does he do that’s not vegan?
I just hate how Brandon was literally questioning himself because Erin has a superiority complex and made him feel like because he wasn’t making sure if the soap he used was vegan he’s wasn’t a real vegan. Also she asked about candy then says she doesn’t eat candy like wtf why did you ask?
cause she knew the candy one would be an easy "gotcha" for someone who isn't super vigilent with every single ingredient. Lots of candy "seems" vegan but in reality has gelatin or colouring made from bugs etc.
@@eedajbut… he named vegan candy. It’s so ironic.
@@eedaj The most annoying thing is they are basically vegan. There are some potential ethical issues with the processing of some cane sugar (using bone char), but they don't directly use animal products. If she actually knew that she could've lightly suggested that maybe the production isn't as ethical as would be ideal. But she flat out stated it wasn't vegan which makes me think she pulled it out of her ass.
Right?? And not only that, he TOLD her that he went vegan only a few months ago, where she's been vegan for TEN YEARS. Of course he's not going to be perfect.
@@veemaxine5257she said 10 years COMBINED, which means she must have fallen off the wagon once or twice. She should be able to have empathy for those just starting out and softly correct their honest mistakes; every vegan should be excited for those who are putting in any kind of effort to be more sustainable. Unfortunately, her superiority complex makes her absolutely unforgiving. Funny how she targets Brandon the entire game, but plays victim when everyone softly corrects her on a mistake SHE made.
I bet that Erin was fighting with the producers afterwards like “well technically Brandon isn’t a REAL vegan so we should still get the money because we did vote the NON vegan out 😤”
Except the mole was a complete meat eater so she lost
The fact that sour patch kids are actually vegan just makes this 10 times better
Well I’m not eating those anymore
AND taco bell wraps!
@@MarkusARCand no one just pulled out a phone to google it?? they did him so wrong 😭 and he’s literally doing his best lol
@@DetectiveBillaccurate pfp
Ya I was like “I eat those cause they don’t have gelatine..”
i wish the producers fact checked during the episode so that after the conversation they could tell erin "btw taco bell wraps and sour patch kids ARE vegan"
I think she would have told them they were wrong
@@TylerWardhaha Yeah andI feel like when Brandon got eliminated he definitely searched it up and realized he was in fact right. He seems so sweet tho he prob didnt say anything
Erin is literally the kind of person that makes people staunchly anti-vegan and makes people think that making better choices has to be 100% all or nothing. I feel so bad for Brandon being bullied by that weirdo.
My first interaction with a vegan was a vegan like this
@@paradoxicalmadness4507 You had 100 interactions with vegans before that, you just didnt know.
@@NacrunoCreations You don't know that either
@@paradoxicalmadness4507 around 1% of the world is vegan, in the us and eu it's around 2%. thats 1 in 50. so unless you never left your house and never interacted with anyone outside since you were born, the odds of you not having interacted with tons of vegans over the years is practically zero. it's like saying you've never talked to an orphan, obviously you have but they just didnt mention it :)
@@NacrunoCreationswhere the fuck do you get your statistics from lmfao. I’d guess its far more likely to be 0.00001%. did that study ask the entire world or just a small group of people willing to answer?
"I could have had five vegan friends but they voted me out" made me deeply sad I'm so real
Erin's sense of superiority and condescending tone is making me grit my teeth
"it's her or me" in the round 1 vote if I was there
Erin was absolutely insane, but she did create the legendary quote "That's not vegan"
But sour patch kids and Taco Bell tortillas are both vegan. She literally doesn't know what she's talking about.
@@zig_da_pigI’m not anymore, but when I was vegan for 6 years taco bell was a savior. You can order anything “el fresca” style & they will replace all the dairy with salsa. That’s probably not good enough for bougie raw vegans, but it is better than nothing and accessible.
@@abbyz13 I know, but she was trying to tell the other guy that Taco Bell couldn't be vegan because there's eggs in the tortillas, but that's just false. She was just lying or she just didn't know the truth.
@@abbyz13 And they voted him off after he said he eats sour patch kids. When sour patch kids are literally vegan.
its the way she interacts in the competition. like no tact, politness. idt this is how she necesserily is in normal settings where theres no prize to win
I hope erin knows that everyone thinks she’s insufferable
She definitely knows how everyone felt. People found her socials, and she received a lot of hate after this video.
@@MaddyBlu9724any idea what happened after that?
@AsuraSK I mean she deleted all her socials and blogs and stuff but idk what else happened to her. It was a long time ago I looked it up.
@@MaddyBlu9724good
shes never responded to any of this. she really should.
I've been vegan for over ten years, and Erin's behaviour is really disheartening, it's about minimising harm, and encouraging people to become aware, not being competitive and morally superior. And sour patch kids are vegan, jesus h.
She seriously is the reason why most folks run from veganism
That's exactly what I was thinking xD vegan gatekeeping is weirdo behavior.
Agree, it's also sad knowing that there are a lot of people like her in the community.
i wish they had live fact checking or something lmao, she should’ve gotten called out for that
It's almost like she doesn't want others to even try being vegan because she wants to feel special and gatekeep it
erin is definitely the kind of person to stop being friends w you for accidentally eating something that isn't vegan
Or something that *is* vegan that she randomly decided might not be! 💀 All the vegans I know love taco bell…
No way she has friends
Would you keep your friendship with someone who voluntarily ate dog it cat meat?
@@ifrooscouldflyyes😐
As a vegan, people like her are the reason we get made fun of and not taken seriously
Yur good we know that's not every vegan💀
the way we all know who ur talking about without saying her name lmaooo
especially bc she was talking down to newly transitioned vegans. diets are hard to change, and you can’t look up all the ingredients to every single thing all the time…god forbid she make them feel welcome.
the reason you get made fun of and not taken seriously is because you’re vegan LMAO
@@Dexatron You're right, I'm a total loser for showing compassion towards animals.
Bruh as a korean that eats buckwheat, that buckwheat comment from Erin made me laugh cuz for someone who practices things other cultures like yoga, she certainly isnt very open to the possibility of other cultures eating more uncommon foods
Lmao right? i died when she said she teaches yoga
THIS!! I was stunned no one called her out.
Ikr, eastern european here, we eat that stuff all the time. Hearing this ascended being go wHo eAtS bUckWhEaT with such a condescending tone made me roll. Millions of people, missma’am.
@@burberryswitchblade2242it’s like how vegans co-opted quinoa. that was never a western white lady food, but now 😂
buckwheat waffles are yummy
The way she gaslit him into thinking he wasnt vegan was wild. I feel like Brandon deserved an apology after being berated. Poor dude.
this comment is just two other top comments copy and pasted together?
@@julieriesgo1401 Yeah the last 2 comments! Wild. Good catch!
Erin is crazy towards everyone but then gets so offended when people push back towards her
When she got all defensive about being questioned I wanted to SMACK the ever living HELL out of my counter while I watched.
Right??? Shes attacking everyone since the beginning and then got soo offended when ppl were defending Brandon for eating taco bell
She turned into a victim quick when she got questioned
right, and it's funny she pushes people away/gaslights people who are trying to be vegan when she thinks that's a good thing. also, serving raw food doesn't even make one a chef, so she needs to check herself (lol kinda joking)
For me the issue is that Erin sniffed out the most insecure person in it's veganism and that was Brandon, because he wasn't vegan for that long and then she just went to town on him. It's just sad to see people take a morally superior stance over people instead of encouraging them or being understanding. Sad.
She's the perfect example of why people have a bad opinion of vegans. When someone says they're vegan we think of someone exactly like her: militant, pushy, angry, lecturing, judgmental. You don't want to be around someone like that. You can't be yourself because they're constantly judging you. And it's even worse if you aren't vegan. So for someone like Brandon who is new to veganism, meeting someone like Erin has to be demoralizing and embarrassing. I can see why he was questioning himself. Erin was the worst person for him to meet. I wouldn't be surprised if he said "forget it. I'll just go back to eating meat. Apparently I'm messing this all up and have no idea what I'm doing."
I’m not a vegan but honestly encountering people like that would make me want to stop trying to be vegan at all if I was Brandon.
Also while wearing that sorry excuse of an outfit that was probably made by child slave labor from SHEIN. She needs to hop off her high horse
It's sad cause veganism isn't bad in itself at all but the vegans that gatekeep and bully like Erin make it such a toxic community that actually prevents other people from considering veganism. Instead of encouraging people if they take a step towards becoming vegan, they're always like "that's not good enough, you can't have this" "you're not a REAL vegan", I've literally seen a lot of people stop being vegan or vegetarian cause of that doubt Brandon was feeling after being grilled by Erin. She may as well just say "you can't sit with us" lol this literally has the same vibe
If i was vegan and met someone like that, I'd straight up chow down on a rare steak just to put her in her place....shes not a vegan shes someone who needs an excuse to enforce her "presumed superiority"
Erin seems like the kind of person to use “therapy talk” to manipulate you
Shes a yoga teacher too- she does this for a living.
Such a specific type of person, this is a bar
Hahaha xD I've never read something so specific that is so accurate
she’s like a professional gaslighter and virtue signaler
Hell yesss!!
What sucks is Brandon was a new vegan so obviously it makes sense that even if he was doing it for more than just food (which in itself is literally fine and normal lol) he wouldn't have every single thing figured out yet. Poor guy. I wonder if he's still vegan today, or if Erin traumatized him too much lol
Also, Erin is so not knowledgeable about veganism outside of her own bubble. I'm not even vegan and somehow I knew that people can be vegan for lots of reasons. When she said "his ethics didn't match" I went ???? ok???? There's no ONE single reason for people to eat vegan lol she's wild
On the other hand, the actual mole had a killer strategy, that was so sick I love it
Erin is exactly the type of person who does more bad than good for the vegan community. You cant be that self righteous and aggressive and have people be open to your message of veganism.
You are either pro-abuse or not, and abusers are not capable of comprehending this
@@pregerzoreo4886Abuse isn't an intrinsic trait. Everyone is capable of learning and doing better. Being an abrasive person isn't going to help if you have a goal of winning people over to your side.
@@ElixirSpice when did I state it to be an intrinsic trait? I said you either something or you are not that does not imply it's intrinsic, you could say you either passed this test or you didn't that doesn't mean that is intrinsic either it's just a statement to show how two things are dichotomous
@@pregerzoreo4886the abused steaks taste sooooo good though.
@@user-if4ke6en9r Okay, bro, you are so edgy. Maybe if you touched grass and visited an abattoir, you would feel different.
Former Taco Bell worker here, almost anything at Taco Bell can be made vegan and we only use egg in the breakfast wraps
Dude, I was annoyed at Jaelin at first but then it turned out he was just annoying people into not asking him anything... Respect
Pro gamer move
I thought he was odd, turns out he's a genius lmao
As soon as Brandon said he went to Taco Bell all the time and got a crunchwrap done fresco, with beans instead of beef, I knew he was vegan. Same, brother.
I love how she feels bad for animals but is straight up cruel to humans.
While I kinda agree with you, veganism isn't about being kind to animals, it's just about not killing them for taste pleasure.
Found the vegan lol
@@micaheller6426 good eye
@@PeterBalfori’ll eat a juicy bacon burger in honor of you
@@michaelgonzalez4912very mature
Erin doesn't even want the money, she just wanted to out-vegan everyone
She got so caught up telling everyone they weren't vegan enough. Instead of the fake vegan lol
felt like she was just there to lecture people instead of win, it was SO fucking funny
@@IsaVarg yea she got waayyy too caught up lecturing everyone lol
Love how Erin believes she has the moral high ground because she's a strict vegan when being rude and disrespectful to someone is probably one of the most immoral things you can do. I get this was a game with a cash prize but you couldn't pay me to be that mean to someone.
The way she gaslit him into thinking he wasnt vegan was wild
frrr
Cody: This must be when they first started Odd One Out because the production is all janky - it looks like ass
Us rn: 👁👄👁
we all start somewhere
I mean... was he wrong lol
Lmao I love that you watch these
No I eat eggs when watch
shut up
I really love that while reveling in her own self proclaimed ethical superiority, Erin is so obviously wearing fast fashion brands which are some of the biggest contributors to environmental devastation and sweatshop labor. But whatever. Enjoy feeling better than everyone else because you don't drink milk.
Good observation.
fucking thank you. why has no one else pointed out her heinously cheap poorly coordinated fit
FOR REALLLL
literally her outfit screams shein like shut up
Oh yeeeeeees, words!
as a long time vegan, tacobell is literally the most realistic & easily veganizable fast food spots and sour patches are famously vegan wtf is this girl ON
“Does she have any joy” after saying she doesn’t eat candy is making me laugh so hard
erin reminds me of every single bad vegan stereotype
I kept thinking that she should have been a cop; that stare of hers is chilling.
Became a yoga teacher, and turned her life around
@@simplethings1363or quiet in a forest since she wanna eat like a deer
@@gregothy9190 yeah i can see it's really mellowing her out
She makes me think of that vegan teacher.
Cody really pumping out these videos on the daily is keeping me going in life lmao
fr every time feels like christmas morning
HAHAHAHAH PUMPING HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHJAJAJAJAJA
Same bruh lol
same
FACTS
Brandon could eat his own hair and Erin would be like “that’s not vegan”
Erin: "Ummm but we ARE animals, after all 😬You know there are suitable plant-based hair substitutions out there..."
Hahahhahahah
Learning that Erin is a raw vegan was so enlightening. Like of course she is lol
i dont even understand the appeal of raw veganism like what u dont want ur food to taste good or😭
@@highoninfinityno they just want the flex
ms girl is literally starving herself no wonder shes the worst person ever 😭
i've been vegan for 7 years and i've never met a sane raw vegan
@@maryschlidt6693 Same, I’ve been vegan for a few years and haven’t met a single raw vegan irl in that time. I think it’s because in order to eat fully raw, you need an amount of money and privilege that a lot of people will just never have. The cheapest and longest lasting vegan foods are things like dried beans and rice bought in bulk. Fresh produce is expensive and goes bad fast so you have to go shopping several days a week. Most people can’t afford that and don’t have enough free time to make salads and smoothies for every meal 🫠 and coming from that level of privilege can definitely make a person out of touch with reality, thus the bizarre way a lot of raw vegans act
You can see the misery in Erin’s eyes. She made this PAINFUL to watch.
She’s definitely a miserable person
10 years of veganism including blending juicing dehydrating etc bullcrap will do that to you xd good for your body not necessarily for your soul lmao
I feel bad for Brandon.
Erin: do you breathe air?
Brandon: yes
Erin: *that's not vegan*
Right, she is doing so much damage..it's people like that that actually cause trauma to others..straight up bullying
The way she gaslit him into thinking he wasnt vegan was wild. brandon was literally gaslit by erin into thinking he wasn’t a vegan.
Erin is really giving the rest of us a bad name. She is so hostile and judgmental when the rest of us are just doing our best and define our own boundaries. For example when Mallewi (denim jacket guy) said he still wore leather he's had for years. That might not technically be vegan but it's sure as shit more durable and ethical than throwing it in the garbage and buying some bullshit "vegan leather" from Shein. Erin does not care about that. She cares about being right and being better than people.
She should not shame people for eating what they like. That’s not Vegan
@WinWinWooListen Erin, it’s a fair “assumption” because you literally spent the entire video judging people and assuming things weren’t vegan that absolutely were. Lol. Erin clearly wanted to be right more than anything else
@@BabyMango Honestly, in my opinion, everything you don't buy yourself, you don't have control over anyway. People often call me out for eating the birthday cake at a party when there is no other food and I am hungry. Does it contribute, in any way, to more demand for birthday cake? No. Would the people have brought it anyway? Yes. (but I understand when people say that it's not vegan!)
When I bring stuff to parties, it's always vegan. My grandma doesn't understand veganism (I've explained it for +7 years now) and instead of discussing it with her too much and her being confused, I let it be. I try to focus on her trying her best and her caring so much that she still makes food for me and sometimes I'll drop the lil "oh, erm, that is not vegan technically" and she's like: o___o (out of confusion)
I have a vegan friend that literally got wildly angry at me because I was happy to be able to drive a car. It has been a dream of mine for +10 years and it was an emotional process for me because I used to drive in the car with my dad a lot ... anyway, I was shoked to the core how angry he got at me for "not caring about the environment" and he said "you wouldn't be happy about driving a car if you knew how bad it was." ... it was ... so shocking and sad, honestly. It contributes nothing but hate. I now own a car just to experience it once in my life how it is, I don't even know if I'll drive it often or how long I'll keep it for. But, yeah, I am the devil and the sole reason for climate change.
When I am on my death bed, I want to be able to say that most of my life has been vegan and that's it. There is no such thing as a 100% life without cruelty agains living things (including children i.e. child slavery/work) under this capitalism anyway. The only thing we can do is try our best and not strive for perfection while hurting ourselves or others. I am always happy when my friends tell me that they eat less meat now and I'm like "you go gurlll" but that's it.
Lol, sorry for my random rant in this comment section but I have a thing with those vegan Erins, they actually scare the heck out of me now ^^'
@UkjACk300, but we can ensure we don't explicitly pay for abuse. You conflate necessity and choice. You choose to eat animal products (when people buy them), but you can't decide to avoid child slavery with products like phones
@@UkjACk300I completely get what you're saying and some people would disagree, but I don't think there even is a right answer. I'm only vegetarian but people will say like "well I bought this meat and if you don't eat it then I will eat it anyways so you're not really contributing to the problem or supporting it, so you might as well." But I think if I were to eat it, I would still be contributing to it because then they might start buying more expecting me to eat some of it or something like that. I get the cake thing though it would probably go in the garbage anyway. I feel like vegetarianism is so much easier not only for the obvious reasons but also because it's much more defined than veganism. veganism has so many levels and variations to it. I think it's just about what it means to you personally, and the reason why you do it. Mad respect to those who do because the amount of research you have to do alone would be insane.
Brandon is an absolute gem. The composure and patience of that man. 🤯
Honestly, I was hoping Erin was the mole because that would’ve been the most INSANE play on this show
that would’ve been so funny lmao
13:44 her victimizing herself after everyone said she was wrong about Taco Bell drove me nuts. People are trying to tell you because you’re wrong. Doesn’t want to hear she’s wrong but I bet she’s the kind of person that tells people they need to “educate themselves”.
Fr 🤣 she can dish it out but can’t take it
The fact that Erin is a yoga teacher baffles me… she is the exact opposite of zen lol
Deadass😂😂😂
I’d rather get eaten by sharks repeatedly for eternity then spend a second with Erin
riiiight, but that wouldn't be vegan
@@corvdklooster899 lmao
Imagine Cut put you in a box with her for 12 hours...
@@lukeclifford2807there’s no amount of money I need that much
poor Brandon, he was already making a big impact by not eating meat & dairy, and someone like Erin puts people off even trying to be vegan or reducing their meat intake. It doesn't have to be all or nothing
Riiiiiightttt but that's not 150% vegan
@@agnosticmanquestionsall2409 so if a person who has been vegan for 10 years accidentally eats or drinks something that has regular milk instead of like soy milk do they just lose their vegan certificate forever?? like be fr, it's about the intention, also all the shit that Erin called him out on turned out to actually be vegan, so she was straight up wrong. Maybe the honey thing, but there's ethical honey producers. I had a friend who was 100% vegan but she would eat eggs every now and then bc our other friend had chickens and she knew they were ethically sourced. Ppl like Brandon are already doing way more for the environment than ppl like Erin who give vegans a bad rep and make it this super strict thing where if you fuck up once you're a terrible person.
the rage that erin induces in me is simply astronomical
Erin’s attitude of self superiority towards Brandon is so comical when you realize she was wrong about nearly everything she attacked him for.
Buckwheat isn’t a normal breakfast food: *wrong*
Taco Bell doesn’t have vegan options: *wrong*
Sour patch kids aren’t vegan: *wrong*
Meanwhile Brandon (humble king that he was in this video) is still going strong as a vegan (and enjoying sour patch kids) all these years later according to his instagram.
What’s his insta btw?
thank you for the reassurance lmao poor guy shouldn’t have gone through that self identity crisis 😹 but theres always room for improvement
All of Russia, Ukraine, and Belarus eat buckwheat for breakfast. WTF does she know?
She's definitely being unnecessarily aggressive, but she is not wrong on "nearly everything". I think at the time the video was made, the distinction between plant-based and vegan wasn't as common. Brandon is plant-based and shouldn't have been attacked for it, Erin is a vegan because the essence of veganism is based on a moral philosophy. She assumed everyone else in that room was vegan in the definition that she was and then it got confusing. inb4 everyone thinks i'm defending her, I am not.
*defends her*
"I'm not defending her"
Erin has got to be the last person on earth I would want to spend a single minute of my time with
Gorlock.
as a former vegan, erin is doing nothing for the “vegans are annoying stereotype” oops
how long were you vegan and why'd you stop?
literally, she’s making a hostile environment even for other vegans
who cares you're not vegan
@@joyfromthemountainname three vegan right now
@@kairabyrd2790 you can't lie it was kinda funny
She gives me the same vibes as a person who quit smoking cigs for a few months and just starts levitating two inches off the ground everytime they talk to someone who still smokes cigs
saddest thing is that sourpatch kidz are actually vegan😭😭 she just hated that dude's guts
Exactly
She said she didn’t eat candy too so why would she even need to know which ones are vegan 💀
they’re not actually, the way they process the sugar it’s filtered through bones or something. i don’t remember exactly but i watched this video when it first came out so i looked it up
@@soybeanokra that's an extremely old way of processing sugar and it's highly unlikely they still do it that way. also it's one of those things most vegans don't care about bc it's nearly impossible to avoid.
Telling you, she’s got to be the vegan teacher’s daughter or something!
As one of the girls in the video, I'm so honored you finally reacted to this 😭
Wait your the one with the non vegan makeup😂
shereen they did you so dirty in this 😭
“vEganS d0n’t wEar maKe-uP” THEY HAVE VEGAN MAKE UP FOR GOD’s SAKE. Bless you, Shereen. Keep being you.
you ate that i loved your style
was Erin truly that insufferable in real life?
i wonder what erin’s personality was like prior to eat, sleep, and breathing vegan
if i had to guess, probably super insecure and undefined. she acts like she found all her self-worth and identity in being vegan, which allows her to feel like she’s inherently better than others.
@@mea2429 I mean she's probably still incredibly insecure. People who are truly confident in who they are don't act like this.
I'm guessing exactly the same, just about something else
Well she did say she had a substance abuse issue so she probably didnt form any identity or self worth. Then she found veganism and used that to elevate her self worth.
She said she used to be an alcoholic so I think we have a good idea. And alcoholism kills your braincells, so it makes sense why she is the way she is even though she's vegan now, you can't reverse that😅
my fav part is when the others are trying to explain to Erin how Taco Bell can be vegan, and she gets so defensive lmaoo
“I was vegan once. I only ate fries… somehow I gained weight”
Cody with the comment of the year
My favorite is when head vegan girl acts like everyone is attacking her as they kindly explain vegan options at TacoBell, meanwhile she's been attacking every person who dares to speak for 10 minutes straight.
It’s peak dish it but can’t take it
Erin is the stereotypical personality I think most people get when thinking of someone who is vegan in the worst way
Fun fact for the crazy vegan- the honey market (most specifically local farms) actually HELPS bees because the process doesn't harm bees and it helps bee populations :)
dangerous half knowledge:
The problem is dieing of wild bees. So domestic bees often dont help or even do harm.
But im with you, honey eating isnt that bad.
Honey is a byproduct of an animal and is therefore not vegan
It's like saying "fuck wool! It's harmful to sheep!"
YeSSSSS THIS! Eating honey actually causes the least harm for bees and the environment so it is in line with vegan morals. I always find it so funny when hard line vegans are so literal
Thats not neccesarily true. A lot of beekeeping does damage to the enviroment (w certain pesticides for instance) and als o sometimes uses cruel or exploitative practices like clipping the wings of the queen bee. There's plenty of non-harmful beekeeping (look for local small-beekeing-byuisnesses and traditional beekeeping) but it bothers me to consistently see this misinfo being spread that all beekeeping is ethical when in reality a lot of it is bad for both the bees and the enviroment.
“How are you vegan when you’re a grill master” went so hard
If Erin was actually the mole this would’ve been ICONIC. I would’ve screamed.
Nah she’s just trash
I know! Instead she looks like an ass but she could’ve been ITtt
I actually was 70% sure it was her, because I didn't want to think anyone could be that genuinely unlikable.
i feel like brandon just wanted to have a normal day at work and jubilee just tossed him in here- poor guy did not sign up for erin’s “that’s not vegan”
Bro she did Brandon dirty imagine watching it in RT😂
@@jaylyn true i bet there’re hours of unedited footage of her interrogating him 😭
Erin ruthlessly grilling everyone about how pure of a vegan they are. They softly correct her about taco bell, "I dont know why you guys are trying to tell me what-"
When a group of people try to convince others to make a lifestyle change or to better themselves, and a person tries to make changes, and the group basically makes them feel like they are not good enough and tear them down, that is what will turn them away. I felt bad for Brandon.
EXACTLY. It's so upsetting. As a vegan, I do everything I can to squash the in-fighting, and try to approach people with positivity. Also the preachiness is annoying too. But it's the policing that can literally make someone step back from the thing they were initially passionate about.
she is so weird. why gatekeep a lifestyle you’d want others to pick up too?
I feel so bad for Brandon. He didn’t deserve to be attacked like that holy shit. Erin literally is a classic
I'm so glad Cody is going to witness Erin as well. She was...intense.
Yea it's kinda funny now. I hope she changed lol
@@claff4573seems like the type to die from COVID this year
Erin is single-handedly out here making people NOT wanna be vegan.
Lol he fooled them by being annoying like a vegan, this is pure gold
as a russian hearing erin say “who eats buckwheat” is so weird. in here it’s one of the most consumed grains and when COVID started people were fighting each other for in in the stores. and btw it tastes amazing if you know how to make it right so it’s not a surprise that many people eat it…..🤷🏼♀️
I was also like o.0 and I don’t even have it that much as an American, but I know a lot of people who are “gluten sensitive but not gluten allergic” who tolerate and use buckwheat for EVERYTHING.
She literally just acted out her assumption without regard to any facts or realities because she likes to feel superior.
yes!! im russian too and buckwheat is sooo popular …. justice to греча she didn’t deserve it 😔🙏 никогда не понимала почему она такая непопулярная на западе
@@wwxluvr2643 правда, греча лучшая….😭😭😭
Erin doesn’t care about being vegan, she cares about being better than everyone
Lmao at the entire group convincing themselves NOT to raise their hands at the end, despite their very visible uncertainty, all because the loudest/most obnoxious people in the group (led by Erin) bullied them into a bad decision. They all deserve it for not standing up to her. I wish the producers had just done a plot twist and given Brandon the prize, to make up for his bad treatment.
brandon was instantly so likable to me he just seems like such a relaxed and friendly guy i would love to talk to him about breakfast lol. erins attitude towards veganism seemed unnecessarily strict when it came to other people like do what u want but uhm eating honey actually helps out the bees and promotes the save the bees movement and then with the leather like... pleather is worse for the earth and theres really no reason to be anti-vintage or second hand leather bc it already exists and like... if you take a "use every part of the animal" approach its still supporting animal rights??? i dont understand the extremism bc its just not helpful. honestly i think erin was so insufferable because shes always hungry like girl please let yourself experience joy so that you can stop making everyone around you miserable
she was so fucking MAD
Erin didn’t even make money and just made herself looks like a really fun person to be around
So good
That poor guy. It took me forever to go vegan because of women like her and I feel like people bring it up to me more than I bring it up to them.
And they bring it up mostly because of people like her. Everybody thinks being vegan is now your only personality trait because that's what she portraits.
As a vegan (over ten years now) I hate people who approach veganism like Erin. How are are we supposed to convince people to become vegan if they feel harassed 😭 never understood the aggression if you’re not being insulted first!
I've been toying with the idea of having specific vegan days in my week, like only eating vegan foods on Tuesdays and Thursdays to at least *contribute* to the good that vegans are trying to do, but I feel like I'd get reamed if I told people I was only vegan sometimes haha - I know that's only a handful of the vegan population but they are SO vocal and aggressive that it scares people away
Erin wasn’t even interested in the actual game… she just wanted to go after Brandon 😂😆
kind of a weird question, what is your favorite documentary? which video of animals being slaughtered did you love the most? 😅😳
Please😭😭😭😭
Well favourite doesn't mean to love something, you can have a favourite vegan documentary that involves animal slaughtering and it be your favourite because it say, made you go vegan.
@@swaggerline8918no vegan i have ever known has a “favorite” animal cruelty documentary. they might have one that stood out…but no one loooves those documentaries. they exist to inform, not to be rewatched and enjoyed. that’s why i think it was dumb to expect exact titles rapid fire like she did
@@abbyz13 As I said in half of my comment, a favourite doesn't imply loving something. Land of Hope and Glory would be my favourite vegan documentary, because it depicts the industry-standard cruelty these animals go through, and the cognitive dissonance of us as a society in allowing these things happen to them. I don't 'love' the documentary. The last thing you mention answers a question nobody here raises though. Favourite doesn't imply enjoyment either.
@@abbyz13Just because something is meant to inform doesnt mean it cant be something youlove... If someone becomes vegan because they dislike animaI cruelty, it follows that they are very passionate about the subject and seeing how widespread meat-eating culture is and how much vegans are mocked, it makes sense that some vegans will have an attachment or love for a documentary that helps to vindicate them by exposing how crueI the meat industry is. YaII are nitpicking what she says but ironically what yaII are saying makes no sense. She enjoys those informative documentaries so she assumed that others would feel the same, it's not that deep
erin's the type of white american that walks into her poc friend's home, asks if it's a no-shoe household, and then in prayer position whispers "your home is so beautiful. thank you."
Cody's Erin impression the entire time has me in tears!! I have never laughed this hard during a Jubilee video.
i hope erin knows that there is an entire massive group of people out here who genuinely despise her. if i was in the room w her we would not have gotten along well is all i’m gonna say.
I was surprised no one called her out, but I get that its awkward being filmed and stuff
no truly ??? bc as a vegan, we want so badly to be inclusive n get people interested and excited about what we consume and the how much more sustainable the lifestyle is, and insufferable people like her make it SO difficult
Imagine wishing the worst for someone you never met once in your life…
@@Sunrise-fr9jbare you erin or something because ur defending her personally in all these replies 😂
@@aritoocool lol. No actually. I just got recommended Erin videos again
Ever since I watched this video a year ago, I’ve wanted someone to watch it and experience the amount of anger and frustration I felt watching it because of Erin and her questions. Thank you, Cody.
Erin got bullied off of social media, her book got thousands of bad reviews, and she changed her name. 😂
Best news I’ve heard all week
Glad to have read this comment
Wonderful news
does anyone have a story they can link🙏
Wtf is wrong with you people lol literally laughing over doxxing and harassing someone just cause they were a little bit annoying
I’ve revisited this episode time and time again just to think to myself “This is exactly who I do not want to be” and it keeps me level. I can be a bit of a button pusher online out of fun but in reality just be kind and not a prick. Looking at you, Erin.