I have that same van, 2WD with the 2.0L, though mine is the low roof version. Mine has the full side interior cargo panels but no ceiling panels on the cargo area. I've towed quite a lot with this van. I have 11k miles on it and have had it about 4 months. I towed a 20' flatbed trailer loaded with steel parts that was at least 5000 lbs. I towed that setup about 2300 miles. It tows great! It is the first auto-trans vehicle I've owned where I like its gear selection on hills. I almost always leave it in Auto mode instead of using the paddles to force a gear. Every GM or Ford pickup that I've owned with their 3 or 4 spd transmissions required pulling the gear down one notch so that it wouldn't hunt between gears while climbing a hill. The MB is better. I don't think the noise is a problem because I always use nice noise-cancelling headphones. Its MPG is only a little better than my Ford V8 pickup when on the highway, but much better in town. I averaged 11-12 mpg on that 2300 mile trip towing the heavy trailer. It is 16-17 mpg on the highway at 75 mph unloaded. It averages around 20 mpg in town. I just ordered a trailer brake controller and it looks like it will be ultra-simple to install. It has the trailer brake controller connector under the driver's seat. I liked the automatic lane following feature at first but now I cancel it most of the time. It is irritating. The parking sensors and side lane change warning feature is nice.
Glad the Sprinter is working out for you and thank you for sharing! Always great to hear from people who own the vehicles we review and have some longer-term experience with them. Safe travels!
I'm in the market for a full size van, and I'm between the sprinter and the transit. What's your opinion of the sprinter? Has the badge mark up costed you? I would prefer not having to drive an hour and a half for computer failures.
Really appreciate this video bud. I placed an order for the 2023 3500xd with DRW a few weeks back to get a bit more towing rating. Going to upfit the interior and pull my gt3 around. I don't really have a need for a 1/2, 3/4, or 1ton truck. The ability to upfit to camp at the track vs going to usually crappy motels in the middle of nowhere was very appealing. Not to mention just all the van things I can do as well.
Glad it was helpful! We see a few Sprinters set up as campers (towing track cars) and it looks like a really great setup that's more maneuverable vs a Ford/GM van-based RV or any bigger pickup.
I just ordered a 144 wb high roof with 2.0 gas engine. I will be primarily hauling around my tools in the back. This review was definitely helpful. I expect delivery in November this year. I went with the gas as I dont do a lot of towing and I am concerned with Diesel emission system reliability. To be honest that little 2.0 only about 130 cubes is a concern to me. I drove the 2.0 around the lot empty and it was peppy. After 1500 lbs or so in the back after its upfitted might be another story.. can anyone share their experiences regarding power and durability? Thanks
Acceleration with the trailer was adequate but a bit labored. We'd pick the diesel V6, for sure. Neither will feel super fast (V6 wins on torque but is similar/same on HP) but the extra torque would be helpful. The speed demon of the modern cargo van options will be a Ford Transit with the 3.5 EcoBoost...
I have a Sprinter passenger 144" high roof and there was no insulation from Mercedes. I put my own insulation in. And I haven't really noticed much of a difference either way. I'll keep plugging away though in order to make a superior limo with a bed and shower.
Honestly don't remember, this review was a little while ago now! Without the trailer, expect 15ish, maybe 17-18 if you baby it. Towing, about 13-14 depending on weight and aerodynamics of what you're pulling.
We have two at my work, one with a cage divider and one with a solid plastic sheet and having driven both the solid plastic between the box and cab made a huge difference.
Sure, lift the turbo four. The diesel is rated for the same horsepower but makes more torque. Probably would be better to lift/big-tire the diesel if you have the option to choose.
@@OutMotorsports I was thinking of going with a 144 gas turbo and lifting it with some 17 inch rims & 265/70/17 all-terrain tires. Doing it more for looks and better ride, not really going to be off roading all crazy or anything.
Also the 4 cylinder has a 9 speed transmission instead of the 7, So if you're not doing a bunch of operating your heavy duty telling some people have said that the gas is nicer for a get up and go/cuty driving.
The (very, very simple) difference that most people will claim is that AWD is always engaged, i.e. no option to only use two-wheel drive. "True 4WD" or "4x4" is a system that starts off as 2WD - usually rear-driven - and via buttons or a lever, allows the driver to select when they want all four wheels driven. Both options *can* have a low-range gearbox but it's not guaranteed. So, a Range Rover is AWD but has low range. A Honda Pilot is AWD but has no low range. A Chevy Suburban is 4WD - it runs in rear wheel drive unless you tell it to engage 4x4 and thus the front wheels.
I have this 2 litre in my Metris. There is no lack of power but gas engines just don't cut it for pulling because the fuel economy drops so much. Diesel is the only way to go if pulling trailers. I pull regularly with my Metris and I wish for a diesel, just for fuel economy.
Yeah, the MPG of gasoline engines does drop when towing. They do offer a lower buy-in and lower cost of ownership in many cases though, so for people who aren't towing every weekend, they can make a lot of sense. What do you pull with the Metris and how much does it weigh?
@@OutMotorsports I tow a duel axle cargo trailer, load it up with cabinets since I own a cabinet business. I have had the weight up to around 4500Ibs, pulling with around 750Ibs cargo in the back of the van plus 2 people. Again no problems with power, just fuel economy. about 25 % of the Vans life is spent towing. I presently have 90,000 KMS. 2018 Metris long wheelbase,
I’ll never buy another diesel Sprinter I love them but the blueTEC a nightmare so happy to have a gasoline alternative. However the 9 foot height Plenty drive-through fast food locations.
@@OutMotorsports got ya. I was super confused for a second. I'll be towing my track car to vir with my new diesel for Hyperfest. Look for me! I'll also be doing a review on my channel. Mine is a 3500 as well so I can get another 2500 pounds. I still can't believe this truck tows with a little turbo 4. Lol.
I have that same van, 2WD with the 2.0L, though mine is the low roof version. Mine has the full side interior cargo panels but no ceiling panels on the cargo area. I've towed quite a lot with this van. I have 11k miles on it and have had it about 4 months. I towed a 20' flatbed trailer loaded with steel parts that was at least 5000 lbs. I towed that setup about 2300 miles. It tows great! It is the first auto-trans vehicle I've owned where I like its gear selection on hills. I almost always leave it in Auto mode instead of using the paddles to force a gear. Every GM or Ford pickup that I've owned with their 3 or 4 spd transmissions required pulling the gear down one notch so that it wouldn't hunt between gears while climbing a hill. The MB is better. I don't think the noise is a problem because I always use nice noise-cancelling headphones. Its MPG is only a little better than my Ford V8 pickup when on the highway, but much better in town. I averaged 11-12 mpg on that 2300 mile trip towing the heavy trailer. It is 16-17 mpg on the highway at 75 mph unloaded. It averages around 20 mpg in town. I just ordered a trailer brake controller and it looks like it will be ultra-simple to install. It has the trailer brake controller connector under the driver's seat. I liked the automatic lane following feature at first but now I cancel it most of the time. It is irritating. The parking sensors and side lane change warning feature is nice.
Glad the Sprinter is working out for you and thank you for sharing! Always great to hear from people who own the vehicles we review and have some longer-term experience with them. Safe travels!
I'm in the market for a full size van, and I'm between the sprinter and the transit. What's your opinion of the sprinter? Has the badge mark up costed you?
I would prefer not having to drive an hour and a half for computer failures.
Really appreciate this video bud. I placed an order for the 2023 3500xd with DRW a few weeks back to get a bit more towing rating. Going to upfit the interior and pull my gt3 around. I don't really have a need for a 1/2, 3/4, or 1ton truck. The ability to upfit to camp at the track vs going to usually crappy motels in the middle of nowhere was very appealing. Not to mention just all the van things I can do as well.
Glad it was helpful! We see a few Sprinters set up as campers (towing track cars) and it looks like a really great setup that's more maneuverable vs a Ford/GM van-based RV or any bigger pickup.
That's one really strong 2.0L engine right there
it has a turbo
Its tuned for towing and for heavy applications.
Very impressed with the gas engine 2.0 turbo. Amazing power.
MPG? with load and without it
Isn’t the V6 version good for 7500 lbs?
I just ordered a 144 wb high roof with 2.0 gas engine. I will be primarily hauling around my tools in the back. This review was definitely helpful. I expect delivery in November this year. I went with the gas as I dont do a lot of towing and I am concerned with Diesel emission system reliability. To be honest that little 2.0 only about 130 cubes is a concern to me. I drove the 2.0 around the lot empty and it was peppy. After 1500 lbs or so in the back after its upfitted might be another story.. can anyone share their experiences regarding power and durability? Thanks
Any updates?
Does the gas engine ever have issues going up hills? Worth the upgrade to V6? I have to drive work vehicles up some steep grades, but not very often.
Acceleration with the trailer was adequate but a bit labored. We'd pick the diesel V6, for sure. Neither will feel super fast (V6 wins on torque but is similar/same on HP) but the extra torque would be helpful. The speed demon of the modern cargo van options will be a Ford Transit with the 3.5 EcoBoost...
Can you add third row seating?
Not on the Crew trim (our tester) but other trim levels of Sprinter do offer more rows of seats.
These are made in ladson SC. Right next to my office.
I'm not sure if you're confused or I am but I was reading that the inline four option is either turbo or twin turbo and it's diesel.
There is a diesel 2.0L inline four and a gasoline 2.0L inline four. Or at least, there were for the 2020 model year :-)
I have a Sprinter passenger 144" high roof and there was no insulation from Mercedes. I put my own insulation in. And I haven't really noticed much of a difference either way. I'll keep plugging away though in order to make a superior limo with a bed and shower.
If you put your own in, that likely helped. And if you have other items in there (if you're making it a camper) that helps absorb sound too.
What van would you choose to tow with?
crazy, 2.0 on a van + capable of 5000lbs towing. My friend's accord is a 2.4l :)))
It’s all in the gearing!
Nice van. Mpg?
Honestly don't remember, this review was a little while ago now! Without the trailer, expect 15ish, maybe 17-18 if you baby it. Towing, about 13-14 depending on weight and aerodynamics of what you're pulling.
@@OutMotorsports thank you!!!
I have a 2019 2500 v6 diesel. had for over a year and I get 18 city and 21 hwy
@@AG-ew2sj which model of 2500? High roof or low roof? 144, 170, or 170 ext? Thanks!
@@FeralPhysicist high roof , 144 passenger .
I wonder with the cargo with the divider would be quieter?
Probably so! It'd reduce the size of the big open box so the reverb might not be so bad.
We have two at my work, one with a cage divider and one with a solid plastic sheet and having driven both the solid plastic between the box and cab made a huge difference.
Nice to be able to stand up in the van for the video while it's raining.
i scored a 2022 With the v6 and love it
What is the interior length between the rear seat and the double door?
10 ft
Would you still be able to lift a 4 banger sprinter and add bigger tires? or do you need the diesel engine for that?
Sure, lift the turbo four. The diesel is rated for the same horsepower but makes more torque. Probably would be better to lift/big-tire the diesel if you have the option to choose.
@@OutMotorsports I was thinking of going with a 144 gas turbo and lifting it with some 17 inch rims & 265/70/17 all-terrain tires. Doing it more for looks and better ride, not really going to be off roading all crazy or anything.
Also the 4 cylinder has a 9 speed transmission instead of the 7, So if you're not doing a bunch of operating your heavy duty telling some people have said that the gas is nicer for a get up and go/cuty driving.
@@pinkfiffty3094 might tow a 4 seater rzr so that’s around 3k pounds with the trailer included.
What’s the difference between all wheel drive and 4x4?!
The (very, very simple) difference that most people will claim is that AWD is always engaged, i.e. no option to only use two-wheel drive. "True 4WD" or "4x4" is a system that starts off as 2WD - usually rear-driven - and via buttons or a lever, allows the driver to select when they want all four wheels driven. Both options *can* have a low-range gearbox but it's not guaranteed.
So, a Range Rover is AWD but has low range. A Honda Pilot is AWD but has no low range. A Chevy Suburban is 4WD - it runs in rear wheel drive unless you tell it to engage 4x4 and thus the front wheels.
What is the inside height of the normal van?
Looks like 67" on the standard van.
I always wanted the V6 Sprinter to tow the V6 GTR.
You didn't mention 2.0L diesel, why?
Hmm, thought we did mention it as the other available engine choice. But this one was the 2.0 gasser.
Loving these videos Jake 😁
Towing is a lot better without wind, my sprinter is exhausting to drive in the wind when I'm not towing
The high roof really adds something (difficult) to the whole experience. Tradeoffs!
This is good thank you
Glad you enjoyed!
That screen is pretty useless if no carplay though. Not going to order that option if I'm just going to replace it with a carplay capable unit.
I have this 2 litre in my Metris. There is no lack of power but gas engines just don't cut it for pulling because the fuel economy drops so much. Diesel is the only way to go if pulling trailers. I pull regularly with my Metris and I wish for a diesel, just for fuel economy.
Yeah, the MPG of gasoline engines does drop when towing. They do offer a lower buy-in and lower cost of ownership in many cases though, so for people who aren't towing every weekend, they can make a lot of sense. What do you pull with the Metris and how much does it weigh?
@@OutMotorsports I tow a duel axle cargo trailer, load it up with cabinets since I own a cabinet business. I have had the weight up to around 4500Ibs, pulling with around 750Ibs cargo in the back of the van plus 2 people. Again no problems with power, just fuel economy. about 25 % of the Vans life is spent towing. I presently have 90,000 KMS. 2018 Metris long wheelbase,
Is that a 2WD??!
Yes, this one was 2WD.
Would help if you give your viewers mpg numbers
It surprises me it can haul 5000 lbs. I a 4 cylinder???
I’ll never buy another diesel Sprinter I love them but the blueTEC a nightmare so happy to have a gasoline alternative. However the 9 foot height Plenty drive-through fast food locations.
We completely agree with the blueTEC. It is a very sad situation.
It's a 7 speed, not a 9... I just brought one.
It is a 9-speed if you get the gas four-cylinder, which our van had. The diesels (both 4 and 6 cyl) have the 7-speed.
@@OutMotorsports got ya. I was super confused for a second. I'll be towing my track car to vir with my new diesel for Hyperfest. Look for me! I'll also be doing a review on my channel. Mine is a 3500 as well so I can get another 2500 pounds. I still can't believe this truck tows with a little turbo 4. Lol.
Awesome! We'll be there and definitely want to check out your setup!
Colour is a eyesaw. Black will be better
Nooo! We are very anti-black/white/silver/beige/gray over here because colors are so much more fun! But if you want black, go right ahead 😉