Cheap Mini-LED Monitors Are Taking Over the Market

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  • Finally, Mini-LED gaming monitors with a reasonable price tag! 576 zone full array local dimming, 160 Hz & 165 Hz and not much more expensive than a regular gaming monitor.
    Color accuracy measurements & ICC Profile download:
    KTC M27P20 Pro: bit.ly/M27P20P
    KTC M27T20: bit.ly/M27T20-CA
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  • @Sam3532
    @Sam3532 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    8:55 them headshots though 😲

  • @mwbeck
    @mwbeck ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I just found your channel not long ago (within a week). Your content is top notch and you have earned my subscription, Sir.

  • @OC.TINYYY
    @OC.TINYYY ปีที่แล้ว +96

    VA+mini led looks so much better than an IPS mini led monitor. Native contrast of the VA panel makes a huge difference to blooming and dark detail when combined w/ mini led.

    • @metacube9913
      @metacube9913 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@k12rising G7 Neo, gtfo

    • @helloguy8934
      @helloguy8934 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But what about the vrr lag.

    • @syahrildesign9707
      @syahrildesign9707 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      for color VA is good, but respond time of Hz IPS is more better than VA

    • @helloguy8934
      @helloguy8934 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@syahrildesign9707 *contrast

    • @laserloui2008
      @laserloui2008 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      VA panels have very bad viewing angles though. Not sure how it would end up being with a triple monitor VA setup.

  • @flxdrv5020
    @flxdrv5020 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I emailed KTC and said the firmware update to enable freesync with local dimming on would be available by april 16th

  • @malithaw
    @malithaw ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I would not have even heard of this brand if it weren't for your covering their products. Great work!

  • @Dianaranda123
    @Dianaranda123 ปีที่แล้ว +139

    Still waiting for a 32inch Oled or MiniLed at 144hz+ that does all this stuff at around 800ish€

    • @KTC1995
      @KTC1995 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      KTC M32P10 Miniled might be your choice

    • @gavinderulo12
      @gavinderulo12 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The Samsung neo G7 has twice as many zones and is 32 inches. Might be the right one for you, though it is a little more expensive.

    • @gavinderulo12
      @gavinderulo12 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@KTC1995 when will this one release in Europe? Couldn't find much info on it.

    • @DandyDude
      @DandyDude ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You'll have to wait quite a while

    • @Dianaranda123
      @Dianaranda123 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@DandyDude Sadly and super annoyingly so.

  • @CobiesTech
    @CobiesTech ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Never heard of this brand, thanks for the very detailed information of this monitor and brand !

    • @rezwan_edit
      @rezwan_edit ปีที่แล้ว +6

      perhaps they're new to the market and they're already killing it

    • @Aecerbot
      @Aecerbot ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rezwan_editnew to their own branded monitors specifically but have been in the game since the 90s

    • @gottachange
      @gottachange ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Good job KTC!!!

    • @retrotechpinas3640
      @retrotechpinas3640 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rezwan_edit KTC has been making monitors mostly as OEMs for other brands since 2003

  • @fxarts9755
    @fxarts9755 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    interesting. seeing such cheap options makes me very optimistic about the whole mini led coming down in price a lot. hope it will be like how 4k came down in price a few years ago. super hyped for the mini led future!

    • @user-xg5lg4ow6f
      @user-xg5lg4ow6f ปีที่แล้ว

      miniled is bad for gaming dont get too hyped

    • @chungisyoung4good
      @chungisyoung4good ปีที่แล้ว

      seeing how its 'you get what you payed for', I wouldn't hold my breath.

    • @fxarts9755
      @fxarts9755 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@chungisyoung4good like i said, 4k was also super expensive in the past. now u can get 4k for the same prices as HD few years ago. same goes for ips panels.

    • @chungisyoung4good
      @chungisyoung4good ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@fxarts9755 that would be true IF the performance was the same at a lower price but its not. It slots as a lower tier product to the actual ones its being compared to. Therefore not pressuring any price drops. In fact its probably cementing those prices.

    • @socialreport2836
      @socialreport2836 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@user-xg5lg4ow6f Nope. For gaming mini leds in HDR overall are even better than OLEDs. They are much brighter and the contrast is very good.

  • @ffh2303
    @ffh2303 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Thanks for the review. I almost bought this but the quirks with SDR is a dealbreaker for me. Here's hoping next gen models fixes this.

  • @GewelReal
    @GewelReal ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Fast, non-curved VA? 500+ zones? Under 500$?????? Shut up and take my money!

    • @ValkryNL
      @ValkryNL 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Isn't curving important for VA's viewing angles?

    • @sekir9694
      @sekir9694 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@ValkryNLIt s horrible 💀 my experience with curved

    • @ValkryNL
      @ValkryNL หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@sekir9694How so

  • @DarkKnight896
    @DarkKnight896 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Picked up the M27P20 Pro recently and so far I am very impressed by it!

    • @isaackass6093
      @isaackass6093 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      How is it holding up?

  • @Simon_Hawkshaw
    @Simon_Hawkshaw ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much for this excellent review of this technology. It is very helpful and much appreciated.

  • @Triro
    @Triro 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Jeez, only 11 months later and prices have come down to 329$ on sale form KTC

  • @igavinwood
    @igavinwood ปีที่แล้ว +119

    Great overview. Thanks. I've been wondering for the last 2-3 years why the mini-LED tech hasn't hit the consumer market at a price point for the average user. It seems strange to me that the tech isn't being utillised while OLED is now becoming available at a cheaper price point. I'd love to see the mini-LED as a standard and for it to be available in sRGB and standard colour setting as the consumer would benefit from great picture quality and not be afraid of burn-in. But here's the question; will it? What will come first I wonder. OLED no longer suffering from burn-in or mini-LED at all picture/panel settings?

    • @ohkey2999
      @ohkey2999 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The burn in is still there.

    • @FNLNFNLN
      @FNLNFNLN ปีที่แล้ว +56

      OLED comes with obsolescence built in at the tech level, MiniLED will last you a decade easy.
      As for which one will get it's problems fixed... neither will ever. Burn in is fundamental to OLED technology. It can't be "fixed". In terms of contrast and color performance, MiniLED ought to be able to catch up with OLED pretty quickly... if there's investment. But even then, OLED is probably still going to be superior in terms of response time, since switching an LED on or off is always going to be faster than the liquid crystals in an LCD literally moving to block light or let it through.
      The real solution for both of these, and kind of where you end up anyways as you "fix" their problems, is MicroLED, aka, OLED except with non organic LEDs that don't have a built in chance to degrade, or miniLED when zone count = pixel count and you can just get rid of the LCD. That or AMQLED, which is MicroLED except the LEDs are based on quantum dots.
      When either of those will come to market... who knows. Samsung is allegedly releasing a MicroLED TV for the low low price of.... $80,000. How long that will take to get down to something reasonable, if ever, who knows.
      As for AMQLED, some Chinese company released a tech demonstrator a while back, but I haven't seen any rumors of anyone trying to go commercial with them, and I've seen some studies bringing up issues with... burn in.

    • @ascendantMethEnjoyer
      @ascendantMethEnjoyer ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@FNLNFNLN quality reply

    • @griftgfx
      @griftgfx ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The answer to the final question is neither. MicroLED or another technology entirely will overtake MiniLED before it gets near that performance level.

    • @tablettablete186
      @tablettablete186 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is also something that Samsung is working on:
      The basic idea is that you have an OLED display if a single color and a filter that "produces the final color". Tha backlight is an OLED basically. (QDOLED if I am not mistaken)
      This allows for more resistant OLED, while having multiple colors

  • @NedimTabakovic
    @NedimTabakovic 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great vid with deep insight 👍🏻

  • @rafaelcarreno778
    @rafaelcarreno778 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Blooming doesn't bother me. I think this is the best alternative to OLED, without the high price, and many of the advantages.

  • @sefaisgames9843
    @sefaisgames9843 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Much needed KTC and couldn't be better timed, Thanks a lot!

  • @gottachange
    @gottachange ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good job KTC!!

  • @govip4725
    @govip4725 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i was looking for a second affordable monitor and that sceptre one might be perfect. and since its a second monitor it doesnt need to be a good monitor so thanks for haveing that there cuz i might buy it

  • @EnnTomi1
    @EnnTomi1 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    its coming.
    next gen monitors. hell yeah !!!!

  • @cablestick
    @cablestick ปีที่แล้ว

    I wouldn't have heard of these brands if it wasn't you. Thanks man!

  • @arsnosatu6
    @arsnosatu6 ปีที่แล้ว

    impressive review. keep up the good work.

  • @ygmr._.08
    @ygmr._.08 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome monitor!!may i ask whats the difference between this and the M27T20 except for the refresh rate?

  • @pressrepeat2000
    @pressrepeat2000 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Think I’m going to buy the KTC one. It’s actually similar in price to the non-mini-LED gaming monitors with similar features, including 90W USBC for MacBook Pros.

    • @helloguy8934
      @helloguy8934 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What about the gp27q

  • @rohanleander
    @rohanleander ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love your videos.

  • @germanfernandez1203
    @germanfernandez1203 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the info that I need!!!

  • @deereboy8400
    @deereboy8400 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The updated firmware for the KTC M27T20 is now available. VRR/g-synch now works with local dimming. Brightness and color adjustment are still locked while in HDR mode.
    I bought the monitor because of this video and an mostly happy with it. No dead pixels, BLINDING brightness, and minimal blooming. Color is over saturated, especially in the cyans. The warm color temperature setting is still too cool for my eyes. Reading black text on a white background is uncomfortable. Previous monitor was a Dell Ultrasharp IPS U2410.

    • @gentle_singularity
      @gentle_singularity ปีที่แล้ว

      So the monitor is too bright? My room is pretty dark most of the time so I'm wondering if this is too bright for me.

    • @deereboy8400
      @deereboy8400 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gentle_singularity Possibly. It gets dim enough to game comfortably in a dark room. Not quite dim enough for falling asleep with a movie on.

    • @michiszc
      @michiszc 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@deereboy8400how much did you pay for it?

    • @tomek_l
      @tomek_l 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      In VRR and HDR simultaneously, is overdrive setting also locked?
      And did you experience any flickering using both VRR , HDR and Local Dimming at the same time?

    • @deereboy8400
      @deereboy8400 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tomek_l
      All overdrive settings are available when HDR and VRR are enabled.
      Flicker is only a problem when HDR is off, local dimming is at the higher two settings, and brightness and contrast are turned way down.

  • @Haisezed
    @Haisezed ปีที่แล้ว +6

    is the KTC M27T20 fine for gaming considering the VA Panel or is there too much ghosting/smearing?

  • @TalonsTech
    @TalonsTech ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Got my Innocn 27M2V 4K 160Hz Mini LED with 1152 dimming zones a couple weeks ago. Blows away my old 27GN950-B 4K 160Hz non Mini LED screen.

  • @C0BEX
    @C0BEX ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I have bought the VA one. Very satisfied with the performance, no defects, and some of the issues mentioned have already been resolved by firmware update. Still cannot use 165Hz with HDR. So far I wanted to take advantage of the miniLED local dimming and HDR by watching a movie. Big problem are dark scenes, especially everything that is near black. You are basically watching a black screen, all shadow detail is gone. Bright colorful scenes are amazing.

    • @josil708
      @josil708 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have the same monitor. Can use 165Hz in HDR by creating a custom resolution in Nvidia control panel but will disable DSR. Not sure how to do this with AMD if that’s what you have

    • @C0BEX
      @C0BEX ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@josil708 for me the 144Hz is not a big deal. The way too dark hdr in movies is way worse.

    • @C0BEX
      @C0BEX 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I just want to add more information. I have resolved the issue with too dark HDR. The problem was that I was using an older version of Kodi, which was doing HDR tone mapping wrong. When I updated Kodi to the latest version, there is a specific option for HDR tone mapping that can be enabled. Shadow detail is still not the best, for example the famous House of the Dragon episode is still unwatchable, but that is the case on many good TVs as well.

    • @donsly375
      @donsly375 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      how is the dimming in SDR? Is it good?

    • @C0BEX
      @C0BEX 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@donsly375 no dimming is never good in SDR on any monitor
      Edit: for desktop use. For games and videos it is fine

  • @MaTiCeK
    @MaTiCeK ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review! If I understood correctly, I can turn off HDR and local dimming while doing office work. and the display will turn to a basic IPS, there will be no blooming?
    Some context for my plans:
    I am looking to buy a new display (actually my first display in 20 years as I was only using laptops due to spatial constraints). My main computer will be a Mac (MBP14 I currently already own). I am planning to do some music production, occasional really basic video edit, otherwise it will be more or less office work (reading pdfs, writing documents, preparing presentations).
    Additionally I plan to connect a Playstation 5 to the same display.
    At first I was looking at Ultrawide displays, but they are no good for PS5 and also only 1440p. I understand Mac OS has limitations with scaling & 1440p is a great resolution for the system. I am afraid the jagged text and my OCD with pixel peeping would go into overdrive...
    So next I settled on the Gigabyte M32u, but it has the problem, of only 15W PD via USB C, so there is no way to have only one cable going to my MBP. Next I came across the Cooler Master and eventually the KTC. I hate that they are 27", as I went to a local Media Markt and sat at a desk with a 27" monitor and next 32" one, and the 32" seem like a sweet spot to me... But coming from a tiny 14" laptop screen, 27" will seem huge once home with no 32" monitor next to it.

  • @hashneurosys
    @hashneurosys ปีที่แล้ว +2

    there is another monitor called Titan Army 27A6MR. not sure its available in your country market but if does i would love to see a review on it. it got similar spec

  • @kapoioskapou
    @kapoioskapou 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hello there, and thank you for the settings! May I ask, the ICC profile is for SDR or HDR (ICC advanced)? Cheers!

  • @jasonnugent963
    @jasonnugent963 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    As a tech guy who’s been in the industry since the 80’s,.. the advances and improvements in technology is just mindblowing.

    • @geoded
      @geoded ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Every now and then a single product comes along and sets the bar at a new level. It doesn't necessarily have to succeed commercially (they often don't) but take the Game Gear, the PSP or the M1 MacBook. They raise what "acceptable standards" for the industry are and then you can never really go back.

    • @The1Music2MyEars
      @The1Music2MyEars ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Monitors haven't really advanced that far, TVs have. Most monitors are being made at 250 nits. Most monitor companies are hyper focused on Hz that by next year, 2000Hz will be the main reason to upgrade from the thousands of sub models each company releases. Picture quality is still not priority and yes that includes giving consumers the ability to choose a screen finish

    • @bremer1701
      @bremer1701 ปีที่แล้ว

      so are the improvements in pricing.

    • @dariomladenovski7047
      @dariomladenovski7047 ปีที่แล้ว

      these monitors push way ahead of 250 nits

  • @ChrisWilleitner
    @ChrisWilleitner ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, i wanna have a new Monitor, which would you choose for gaming, i play both fps and Singleplayer games, Dell S2721dgf, KTC h27t22 or KTC M27T20?
    Thank you already

  • @despooked
    @despooked 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I wonder how the black smearing is in the VA model? Does the local dimming help mitigate it?

  • @Mark-ie9hi
    @Mark-ie9hi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! Thank you very much! May i ask if you are from Germany or Austria? 😅😄

  • @voisewolfteam9976
    @voisewolfteam9976 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    900p gamer here. I really advise this resolution at this price point, especially if you play shooters/battle royale. It can be really easy to spot enemies that are far. $799 would be affordable

  • @g1zmo85
    @g1zmo85 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Kind of leaning towards these, KTC fixed the issues with a firmware update, were you able to test the new firmware?

  • @Keivz
    @Keivz ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Incredible. I just ordered the m27t20 yesterday. Doesn’t arrive until March though. I’m ok with using it as a 144 hz panel (given the 160 hz limitations) and I always have hdr on in windows with my oled tv (looks fine to me and I’ll just be gaming on the thing anyway) but lack of vrr+hdr+local dimming is an absolute deal breaker. I’ll be returning it within the 30 day return period if they don’t update it like coolmaster did. I would have just got the coolmaster but it’s been sold out forever. Anyway, huge thank you for the review!

    • @RokerSMisisipi
      @RokerSMisisipi ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think that KTC mentioned that a firmware update is on the way to fix the issue and let you have VRR+local dimming at the same time like Cooler Master did. Let me know if you hear anything about it please, I'm very interested in M27T20 as well.

    • @FirstMomentsOf
      @FirstMomentsOf ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I want to know why VRR is such a big thing. The display also has FreeSync / G-sync and that should be enough.

    • @Keivz
      @Keivz ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@FirstMomentsOf vrr is a synonym for g sync, free sync, adaptive sync these days. Bottom line, this display can’t do any of those things when local dimming is active which is a huge handicap

    • @Keivz
      @Keivz ปีที่แล้ว

      Fwiw, I returned the monitor. Still no update.

    • @RokerSMisisipi
      @RokerSMisisipi ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Keivz oh man, that's a bummer. What did you think of it in general?

  • @leeknow.h6681
    @leeknow.h6681 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Much needed and couldn't be better timed

  • @BenSake
    @BenSake หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi, images on VA panel look more saturated than on IPS. Could you comment on that? When viewing in real life, do colors on pro version with IPS panel look more pleasing? Would you be able to do video editing on VA panel?

  • @Kadir67_471
    @Kadir67_471 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nice Video! Can you review the xiaomi mi 2k gaming monitor 27" a budget monitor with WQHD IPS 165hz 95% DCi-p3 and 100% sRGB and 400nits- idk if it's a good price/value the spec sheets look decent and you can buy it n germany for 300 Euros atm. But there are almost no 3thrd Party reviews. Would you still recommend it?

    • @Areen51
      @Areen51 ปีที่แล้ว

      Seems like a good deal tbh

  • @akaChriss4L
    @akaChriss4L 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wonder if that FreeSync added lag on the VA-model is fixed or if this fixable. I use VRR always in every situation.

  • @Razorfiend
    @Razorfiend ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is an awesome review, great information. I ordered the M27T20 on Amazon and should hopefully have it by Feb 15th.

  • @bakakafka4428
    @bakakafka4428 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How does the local dimming and switching between sdr and hdr now look after firmware update? An update short video would be great.

  •  ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My monitor is 1080p with 60 refresh rate but my friend said I should get one or more with higher.because the experience is unbelievable.it’s actually affordable tho

  • @JohnDoe-su8ew
    @JohnDoe-su8ew ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very informative video. Was surprised to learn that the mini-led feature only works properly if there is software that can utilize it.

  • @Agp1597
    @Agp1597 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    NICE , PERFECT i really want those prices go down to be honest the monitor manufacturers have being soo greedy at maintaining those daamm high prices in the market i hope we see soon decent HDR monitor below the 200 dollar mark

  • @alp4info
    @alp4info ปีที่แล้ว

    t-
    Thanks for the info...
    Will either display in HDR for creativity or editing.?
    Regards ✌🏾

  • @ConstanceVNs
    @ConstanceVNs 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    From my understanding even if you can't turn HDR in desktop mode it still have great colour coverage and is very good for colour work?

  • @motiveminute01
    @motiveminute01 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can usb data transfer be sent over that usb-c port which also sends video output and power? Like use that 2 usb ports on it?

  • @maykelm.g1227
    @maykelm.g1227 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video. Pls could you review the gigabyte g24f 2 ?? Or a comparison between the gigabyte g24f and g24f 2 ? Thank you

  • @mk_787
    @mk_787 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    MiniLED is definitely the future because it's cheaper and theoretically not inferior to OLED at all. If one day somebody figures out how to put 1920*1080 zones into a panel, thing will look very very bad for OLED as it has much worse lifespan compare to MiniLED.

    • @heroninja1125
      @heroninja1125 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Micro-LED is basically what you described, each pixel is its own dimming zone, or more accurately its just oled but the lighting element for each pixel is a non organic compound which makes it an LED as opposed to the carbon based organic element used in OLED (which causes burn in and lower brightness)

  • @NewBreed2205
    @NewBreed2205 ปีที่แล้ว

    @techless, have you got the chance to check the new firmware? Maybe a follow-up video if you still have the 2k monitor available :)

  • @MarvinSpiegel
    @MarvinSpiegel ปีที่แล้ว

    Gutes Video!

  • @flockelocke2297
    @flockelocke2297 ปีที่แล้ว

    In HDR sieht der VA Monitor viel besser aus als der IPS. Ich habe ein bisschen Lust auf den 1440p Monitor, da er ein gutes VA Panel hat, dass auch einen hohen Farbraum hat und womit man wohl einigermaßen geschmeidig daddeln kann. Ich weiß jedoch nicht ob meine Augen und mein Kopf das vertragen, da ich seit 2019 ca auf 4K zocke (28 Zoll und 32 Zoll).

  • @alexk6745
    @alexk6745 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was thinking that my eyes get less tired with cfl light. few years back I bought at the auction a monitor for that reason and I still use it.

  • @nfmc6640
    @nfmc6640 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool video 👍

  • @waltuh6984
    @waltuh6984 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    when do you think the first 4k 120+hz 27" 500+ zone monitors will come out that dont have annoying quirks and 4k 120+ oled 27" monitors

    • @heroninja1125
      @heroninja1125 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      oh there already is a few out, at the moment the most competitively priced one is the innocn 27M2V which will set you back around $799 USD or $1129 CAD. It is a 4k 160Hz monitor with 1152 dimming zones and vesa displayhdr1000 certified.

    • @waltuh6984
      @waltuh6984 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@heroninja1125 yeah was looking at that one but i live in australia and it has like 250usd import fees

  • @History_Repeats-cu5je
    @History_Repeats-cu5je 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A comparison with the AOC Q27G3XMN would be amazing. Seems like a comparable monitor. Although I've heard that the europe version (AOC Q27G3XMN/bk) seems to have firmware issues regarding the srgb color space. A video comparison would be amazing.

  • @teamvrzo
    @teamvrzo ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can you please review gigabyte g27f 2 . Thanks 🙏

  • @laserloui2008
    @laserloui2008 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I want good black levels in desktop use (web-browsing, youtube and so on).... so what are my choices?
    OLED is not an option since i need 4K and the text clarity is not good enough (messy subpixel-layout).
    Whats left? VA Panel? IPS-Black (limited to 60hz)?
    Does anyone know a 4K Monitor with more than 60hz that has good black levels?
    Price is not an issue... it just seems that there are no decent monitors out there. :(

  • @tomikivela7634
    @tomikivela7634 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Got the non pro with firmware 2.0.4 but can't find any info anywhere what does it do or what are the diffrences, auto HDR mode is gone and replecments are off, standard, Movie and HDR600. also local dimming is now auto, standard or high... also this firmware hasen't been uploaded to ktc site... thinking there might be hardware diffrences..

  • @ludvigafklercker7722
    @ludvigafklercker7722 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I tried following the download link for your ICC profile for the m27t20, but I couldn't get the file to download? I remember one of your older videos mentioning the file should pop up via google, but that didn't happen, instead I was prompted to open an app I do not have. Is this working as intended?

  • @dingo23451
    @dingo23451 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is ghosting a big problem with these VA panels?

  • @SephirothVG
    @SephirothVG 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Woher hast du die gekauft? Ich kann die beiden nicht auf Amazon finden..Bei otto gibts der non pro version aber es kostet fast 600 eur....

  • @thatpitter
    @thatpitter ปีที่แล้ว

    How do they perform with a Mac? / can Dolby Vision content be displayed?

  • @carnifex8
    @carnifex8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you do a review of the "legendary" Gigabyte G24F 2. Apparently an updated v2 came out.

  • @MaunaGuerrero
    @MaunaGuerrero ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I received today the Redmagic 4k 160hz mini-led with 1152 dimming zones, and it Is amazing!!! $869 (launched April 6th), and they don't charge tax here in the US.
    The monitor Is much better, and cheaper than my Sony Inzone M9 by a huge margin. It works flawlessly with hdr, local dimming, vrr, and 160hz enabled at the same time with no issues at all, Zero flickering.

    • @Lex-vf2fo
      @Lex-vf2fo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They don’t charge tax?
      You mean they have taxes included in their prices…

  • @kelownatechkid
    @kelownatechkid ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this coverage... Very interesting for all these details that are crucial to know!

  • @WanceBrito
    @WanceBrito 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have an issue with mine where it doesn’t seem that bright in HDR did you have a similar issue

  • @goldkat94
    @goldkat94 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any news about the HDR enabled with adaptive sync firmware update?

  • @skylk559
    @skylk559 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Having owned Samsung Neo G8, I feel like the 576 zones are not enough to have the best experience for the 27-inch screen.

    • @dariomladenovski7047
      @dariomladenovski7047 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it's enough for that price considering that mid range TV's have 100-300 zones, if you want the best shell out more cash

  • @drunkensailor775
    @drunkensailor775 ปีที่แล้ว

    1440p variant of Cooler Master has IPS panel from AUoptronics, and 1440p KTC got HVA panel, don't know which. Want to point that out, it's a huge difference. 4k got same panels I think.

  • @torukmakto6246
    @torukmakto6246 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great content! May I know the wallpaper of the thumbnail? Thanks!

  • @injured_lion
    @injured_lion 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You're the best monitors reviewer period 💛

  • @Dantido
    @Dantido ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Well, those annoyances are a shame. These monitors could become the absolute best if HDR didn't grey out basically every setting.
    Hopefully that firmware update will fix it.

    • @heatnup6899
      @heatnup6899 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      thats typical with nearly every HDR capable monitor

    • @herrerkan
      @herrerkan ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Its false information in the Video. Thats Windows when you enable HDR. U need to adjust every setting then in Windows itself

    • @iKrieGtube
      @iKrieGtube ปีที่แล้ว

      @@herrerkan yeah but the Freesync incompatibility with Local Dimming/HDR is false too? I want to buy it, but this downside is pushing me away from this product

    • @herrerkan
      @herrerkan ปีที่แล้ว

      @@iKrieGtube For my last 3 Monitors HDR with G or Freesync glitched always. I recommend not using G/F-Sync in general, above 120 FPS is much more useful. Also with them enabled you get a bit of Inputlag, which is very noticible

    • @takishan
      @takishan ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@heatnup6899 the MacBook pro 16 inch's display does this perfectly. HDR on constantly, it's mini-led but blacks are always dark, even in non-HDR content. near no blooming, and the colors are fantastic.

  • @abdelrahmanaboelnasr
    @abdelrahmanaboelnasr ปีที่แล้ว

    Please can you review the Philips momentum 3000 24 inch IPS monitor?

  • @Milofox1
    @Milofox1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    micro or mini led will be my next, but I want it in 32-34 inch 3440x1440 resolution

  • @HutjeSiu
    @HutjeSiu ปีที่แล้ว

    right now u just have to manually switch on local dimming while enjoying hdr content, and keep it off for daily browsing and gaming, you have to consider the local dimming lag too when gaming
    even the best asus miniled model had to compromise with this mini led flaw

  • @Killerhippo111
    @Killerhippo111 ปีที่แล้ว

    Heyho, hasst du dir die aus den USA importiert, wenn ja werden die deutlich teurer oder kann man die auch bei uns kaufen ?

  • @ployth9000
    @ployth9000 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    since we are on the mini led monitor topic can you review the INNOCN 32" Mini LED 4K UHD 3840 x 2160 Computer Gaming Monitor 1152 fald zones 144Hz 1ms IPS HDR1000 HDMI 2.1 Monitor, 99% DCI-P3, USB its on amazon for $899 and its a pg32uqx at a better price

  • @SuperSuperka
    @SuperSuperka ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing how far from good-support of HDRI computers (OS, monitors) are, when more-less common TVs has this for few years. I even think spending money on TV (to use as display) maybe a better idea.

  • @soloistcool
    @soloistcool ปีที่แล้ว

    Hallo Techless, sehr informatives Video. Viele Dank! Weißt du ob KTC das Update, welches VRR mit local dimming möglich macht schon veröffentlicht hat?

    • @RemD-pn9of
      @RemD-pn9of ปีที่แล้ว

      Ich bin zwar nicht Techless, aber da ich den Monitor selbst Samstag bekommen habe: Das entsprechende Update findest du auf der Seite von KTC unter Downloads (runterscrollen). VRR (in meinem Falle GSync) + LD funktioniert problemlos mit dem FW-Update. Kleiner Hinweis: In der Anleitung steht man solle den Stick mit Fat formatieren, funktionierte bei mir aber nicht, NSFT hat dann aber geklappt.

    • @History_Repeats-cu5je
      @History_Repeats-cu5je หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RemD-pn9of
      Hi,
      paar Fragen wenn du so nett bist als Besitzer:
      1) Ist nach dem Firmware Update die Helligkeit in HDR gesunken wenn Local Dimming + VRR + HDR gleichzeitig aktiviert ist?
      2) Kann man die Helligkeit einstellen wenn HDR aktiviert ist oder ist es ausgegraut?
      3) Ist die Helligkeit in HDR/SDR in der Nacht in einem Raum ohne Licht akzeptabel oder zu hell?

  • @vividas
    @vividas ปีที่แล้ว

    How does the M27T20 handle dark smearing?

  • @Mustis91
    @Mustis91 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    honestly if you can't afford or don't want to get an oled, you could get a va monitor of the newest generation.
    I've got the aoc agon ag275qxn which is around 300-320 $/€ and i really like it. It's flat(!), 1440 p and the colors and contrast are amazing! plus it has a faster panel than older va monitors so the typical side effects of va monitors really arent't that noticable if you're not looking for them with a microscope. Sure it's not an oled but for the money i'm really happy with it . Liebe Grüße 😜

    • @stanislavkimov2779
      @stanislavkimov2779 ปีที่แล้ว

      How does mini-LED compare to OLED? I heard OLED was much better, totally another level. But maybe it was said by people who followed the OLED marketing hype and are now justifying their expensive purchase.
      It feels wrong to have OLED for PC, for the concern of burn-in. I wouldn't be able to use it normally. OLED would be only good for movies/gaming, so as a TV.
      I want to upgrade my monitor now, and am thinking, should I take a 4K mini-LED? IPS or VA.

    • @dariomladenovski7047
      @dariomladenovski7047 ปีที่แล้ว

      watch the Hardware unboxed test he compared miniLES to OLED and his conclusion was that miniLED with a lot of zones gives you pretty much OLED blacks

    • @heroninja1125
      @heroninja1125 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@stanislavkimov2779 a good quality mini-LED will give an oled a run for its money, part of it is oled marketing however if you REALLY want absolute perfect blacks 100% of the time then oleds are for you, and if you want the 100% best gaming monitor then oleds are for you, however mini-led monitors will give you way better brightness and often colors as well for a lower price, and consequently you will get a better monitor for the same price as a 4k 160hz miniled with stunning colors will set you back just as much as a 1440p 144hz oled monitor with subpar colors.

  • @Dor_sap
    @Dor_sap ปีที่แล้ว

    what wallpaper do you use on your setup ?

  • @jasonycw1992
    @jasonycw1992 ปีที่แล้ว

    Time to check out Innocn 27M2V as well

  • @ClayCowan
    @ClayCowan ปีที่แล้ว

    Curious how other think these compare to a 42” (or smaller if that’s a thing) OLED used as monitor?… (eg LG C2)

  • @reboot3d
    @reboot3d ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @techlessYT, thanks for this video! Would it be possible to get a video on other gaming monitors with usb-c? There are not a lot of high refresh rate monitors out there with usb-c. The reason why I am asking this is because I would like to use the monitor both for work (usb-c adds some convenience) and gaming. Also, would it be possible to cover why a lot of the new monitors do not come with usb-c out of the box (I guess price plays some role here)? The new LG monitors look awesome but for some reason they do not add usb-c. At this price I would expect this port to be there.

  • @Gradzik1441
    @Gradzik1441 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How is ghosting? Very noticeable? I play a lot of cs:go, overwatch and apex legends

  • @footbollpro
    @footbollpro ปีที่แล้ว

    The difference between ktc and the coolant master is that ktc is va and coolant master is ips. Which is better for gaming an ips or va, I will use Xbox series s

  • @wadez1000
    @wadez1000 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you have a link for that wallpapper?

  • @petrsonTD
    @petrsonTD ปีที่แล้ว +1

    idk guys. I bought ktc m27t20 (1440p VA) and the blacks are really something you want, but I really mind that when you have areas that are only 50 light up you can see that back light is also turned down. so you are in situation when differnt between fully light up part of screen vs part of screen thats light up only for 50% brightness is higher than it should be. because pixels are set to block 50% of the light and then another 50% its taken from local dimming and its just looks like a broken monitor to me sometimes.
    plus whole hdr 1000 isnt good. like do you really want to get your eyes burned out in your evening play? it might be goog if you play in summer day, but i dont. i personally bought it with the hope for better blacks... and it's doing it in some ways, but in other ways it's ruining it.
    i'll probably going to return it. and I'll also sell my IPS monitor and just buy a VA panel. it has better blacks than IPS and with the good VA you should see smearing. i would be really happy if i could just buy this same version of the monitor without the mini-LED. i know that i can just turn off the local dimming, but that would be a waste of money.
    one day maybe I'll just buy woled monitor.

  • @lextr3110
    @lextr3110 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    we are all waiting for 4k 165hz RGB oled with perfect white on black..

  • @MasterCloud22
    @MasterCloud22 ปีที่แล้ว

    is the m27t20 available in germany ? i can't find it anywhere

  • @iSeyven
    @iSeyven 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you have any KTC M27T20 profile for HDR?

  • @MrLPWatcher1000
    @MrLPWatcher1000 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wo gibt es die denn in/nach Deutschland zu kaufen?

  • @carsonj4031
    @carsonj4031 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    now we have mini led displays under $300. I just bought one and its really great.

    • @hazemam
      @hazemam 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      which one did you get under $300?