Are they THE SAME SPECIES???
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pamphobeteus sp machala
I can say with absolute 100% certainty that they are all tarantulas....that's about as far as my knowledge goes.
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Brilliant! 👏
Kkeeheheghhehe 🤭 ikr
LOL your comment literally made me laugh out loud haha. 🤪👍
"So much pinkier"
You are awesome. Don't ever change.
First male is definitely a machala but the second male is a xenesthis sp white. Someone messed up the labels lol
@@carop7007 pamphobeteus sp. platyomma*
I would even argue that's the *pinkiest* male in the Ts world, LOL
I adore him too...
(me who plays Pokemon): maybe one of them is a shiny?
😭😂😭 I'm ded lol so funny :) 🙏👍
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Same
The second one it's Pamphobeteus platyomma Petko hehehe they are look like similar when they are slings 😊😊
We agree here!
I thought this too
Just my thoughts 😄
Its definitely that one, absolutely identical
There's no mistaking hes a pamphobeteus platyomma!
Looking at the carapace, both the female and the darker male appear to be the same species, Pamphobeteus machala, due to the mark that both present on their carapace... while the pinker one must be a different species, maybe Pamphobeteus sp. platyomma
I have a mature male of P. Nigricolor, and he has te same color.
Never thought I would ever say this, but damn those are some pretty tarantula's. I like both of them.
I effing hate spiders but am in love with how pretty these 2 are!
Three months ago I started watching your videos , and now I just got my first tarantula , a brachypelma Hamorii, it is still a small sling !! Cant believe I was scared of spiders and now I have a tarantula 😬
B. hamorii is often confused with B. smithi, whith hamorii tending to be more aggressive of the two. smithi also has more distinct leg banding.
I got into the hobby about 4 months and also have a B. Harmorii 😁 "She" is an unsexed sling *BUT* "She" is by far my favorite T (I have 3 tarantulas so far) TONS of personality!! I also have a T. Albopilsus (adult) and my first Tarantula is an Aphonopelma Bicoloratum (sling).. My Bicoloratum is a little devil tho!!
Tom Moran would definitely know. He loves this genus
The first is definitely Pamphobeteus machala.
I'm almost positive that the second one is a Pamphobeteus sp. platyomma
I have platyomma in my collection and he looks just like my male(:
I think you're spot on here. I second your suspicions!
Agreed
thank you now I don´t need to type it too ^^, spot on Alicia
I was thinking the same. The Pamphobeteus and Phormictopus genus realllly need to be sorted out. Maybe the two most underrated genus in the hobby, in growth rate, beauty (metallic colours for days), husbandry, size and fun feeding response. Also found that they have pretty good temperament. Pamphobeteus even gives you a reason to want a male. Love these guys.
Yeah but could also be p. nigricolor. I have a feeling these guys get mixed up in the hobby.
Petko If I wanted to get you a species you don't have how would I go about doing that? I've been watching your channel for years. You got me over my fear of Tarantulas and now I own a numerous amount of them. I checked out your webpage only to notice there was one species in particular that was missing from your collection. One that is a dream Tarantula of mine and one I feel everyone should have in their collection. That species being Harpactira pulchripes. People please thumbs up this so he can see.
I held my breath when he had them beside each other.... Scared they would sense each other and attack. Yikes. Ha. That second one is beautiful... Huge guy.
yeah bc it was irresponsible
I agree that this was irresponsible
Social Distance www.inaturalist.org/observations/19570419
I pulled a Ron Weasley when you poked the second one....
"Bloody hell! Why spiders?! Why couldn't he keep butterflies?! 😭"
i fully agree with u on that lol
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Hello, my name is Paul and I am addicted to T's. It all started a while ago after binge watching some Petko vids. What a TY rabbit hole that was. It is all your fault.
Seriously, thanks for your channel. You turned an interest in T's to a new hobbyist.
Same goes for me!!
Yes recovering T junkie here allso
petko calling the female a plain girl and then being surprised when she gets cranky
8:36 😂 I don't know why I find this very funny. It's nice that you made this video as a discussion although I can't help with that.
11:27 You can see a hint of purple on the females legs.
I still think the females r stunning! Just not as pretty compared to the nales
@@davidknep Still would have been nice if the females colour pop like the males, as you could appreciate the more vibrant colour tone for longer with females having longer life spans. You could have a male for that you just get it for less time.
Right one appears more fuchsia with a matching carapace, while the left one looks more of a grape, with a mostly black carapace.
What a beautiful species! I would love to come across one of these locally. Such impressive coloration.
The moment the 2nd one stretched his legs, I immediately thought of Phampobeteus sp platyomma... One of my fave male tarantula.
3:45 that T needs more substrate
The color is more vivid on one versus the other. Maybe one is just more pretty. They're both beautiful. One of my favorite carapaces on tarantulas.
I just saw one of those while walking in the jungle of Colombia, the colours were unreal.. I’m glad I found out which kind of tarantula it was
The first male looks like a Pamphobeteus Nigricolor I say that because of the definition between the marking on the carapace the bigger one is definitely a Pamphobeteus Platyomma! The female would be difficult to identify however I would be able to tell if you uploaded some pictures of her with her juvenile markings/color. I’ve owned a lot of different Pamphobeteus species and it is much easier to identify the species when they are juveniles or adult males most of the mature females are almost indistinguishable with the exception of the Ultramarinus.
Pamphobeteus is a cool genus but with how similar so many of them look it makes me wonder if many of these are different localities rather than species, I think genetic research would be so interesting for these guys. I mean out of all the different spider genera Pamphobeteus is the one that gives me the most headache because it feels like there are 10 giant spiders with purple males and dark brown/black females so I have no idea if I even wanna think about breeding these because I feel like I would end up with hybrids.
In the end I find that tarantulas are a great example of how the whole classification of species is somewhat arbitrary since many species blend into each other, African cichlids are also a good example of this same thing.
This is the man who inspired me to take care of tarantula's. Been a subscriber for a few years now and i just got my first tarantula just a few days ago. Brachypelma boehmei and brachypelma hamorri. Keep up the good work man.
If i was you i would contact Tom Moran, he is incredibly knowledgeable about Tarantulas.
@panfriedd my thinking was that if Tom doesn't know, he may know someone who will, or know where to find the info.
@@heleninglis9961 im certain that he got the answer he seeks here in the comments, there are a bunch of tarantula nerds out there with as much knowledge or more than Tom. They just dont have TH-cam channels.
The second one looks like a Pamphobeteus Platyoma and the First one was the Pamphobeteus Machala because of the patterns in the carapace.
Looks to me like the bigger one is P sp. platyomma and the smaller darker one is machala. I am no expert and I don't have these Ts, but a quick google search can come up with some info
I don't think that this is outside of normal variation for this species. Genetics just be funky sometimes.
Second male, the bigger and brighter one, looks a lot like Pamphobeteus platyomma to me😜
Your videos ALWAYS bring me great happiness. Thank you for another GREAT video 🔥🔥
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Same! In the car with the car on and late!! I HATE being late! I did though get out and leave the car running to see the video "on the big tv." Totally worth it.
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Same here 😂😂😂
I've gotta go full dad mode and say, save it as a reward for completing your work.
@@CaptIronfoundersson muhaha i have no dad!
I'll try to get an opinion from a breeder I've talked with a few times before - the guy is actually a taxonomist so he might provide some valuable information in regards to this issue.
I'll forward the video to him.
Update:
The breeder responded stating that spiders from this species can look a lot different even among sack-mates.
Seeing those 2 males tarantulas so close to each other throughout the video was giving me major anxiety. Wasn't feeling that. 😭 Great video though 👍🏾
dude that one is huge.. you might want to rehouse that one if isn't already no wonder he cranky. Such crowded for the poor thing. Beautiful tarantula though. I didn't watched to the end when I made the comment but yeah the spider was more docile when it was out of that small enclosure. At the end that spider was like I don't want to go back in there though.
Both males are beautiful species, however I think the smaller one with darker purple is better looking as amethyst and dark purple colors are my favorite. But those long legs on the bigger one are beautiful too. You're so enjoyable to watch. You bring a smile to my face even as I sit here with horrible chest pain and miserable from my heart failure. Bless you and thank you for being you😉
I hope your pain will disappear soon and that your heart will stay strong during the rest of your life. I send you all of my support from France 🖤
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the second different looking one is sp. platyomma images.app.goo.gl/J9WJaKxUsFSkyjGp6
the other two sp. machala images.app.goo.gl/kwEju9n4Sucy2f7eA
most prominent differences are the different scopulae = the color and shape of the longer feather-like hairs called setae, the palpi which can´t be stretched on a living specimen as well as the apophysis, obviosly the habitus and body lenght is slightly off, platyomma are more leggy than sturdy machala and the radiallines on the carapace are slightly different too.
The biggest mystery in the world- when it comes to tarantulas- it's the Pamphobeteus species.
Definitely all need a rehouse
Hello Marko. I am convinced they are both the same genus. I have kept tarantulas for over eight years now and I have seen this happened twice. I am positive they are both the same Pamphobeteus species. One of them just matured 1 molt earlier. In 2-3 weeks they will be the same color. I observed this happened in Chilobrachys sp. Kaeng Krachan and Poecilotheria sp. lowland.
I really like this species it reminds me of all of the Halloween decor you see. Those big huge plastic tarantulas they sell for decoration they always have purple and black or they have brown n black but yeah they are so pretty even the darker male is still pretty
Hey Petko! After some research I'm almost certain that the smaller guy is either Pamphobeteus flammifera or Pamphobeteus mascara. They both have that really unique looking carapace, these two little Stripes that kind of make them look like they are wearing a bandit mask haha! The other one I'm not entirely sure.. I'm undecided between Pamphobeteus machala and Pamphobeteus platyomma.
Greets from Germany and also: Love your videos, keep goin!
Second male I’d say is a Pamphobeteus platyomma! An absolute stunner 🤘🏼💜
Great video, I always learn something, very educational!
I'm always a fan! I love your channel. You're one of the reason that I started my T collection. Keep up the good work. 🥰🥰
After learing for months tommorow is the Day! My first tarantula! Learend a lot from you dark den! Thanks!
Happy keeping!!! 🕷
Good luck! I got my first tarantula (Caribena versicolor) about 4 months ago and I have 6 at the moment and no plans on stopping soon xD
Happy keeping!
Thanks for the love People! Really looking forward to tommorow!🤗
@@Dutch_Spiderman what did you go with?
@@gr33kb0i starting 'easy' with a brachypelma hamorri.
Also a female platyomma would be a more brown color overall also bigger with nice pink eye markings. So the female and smaller darker guy are the same species for sure...the second dude is definitely a platyomma.
Hi Petko. The 2nd male looks to be the purple bloom bird eater or Xenesthis immanis. Looks exactly like the big male you have.
Most majestic Amazon blue bloom I’ve seen to date! Wow what a specimen.
Maybe they are the same species but from different regions? I don’t know if that would change how they looked or something
Beautiful colors 🕷🕷
The female and first male have a tell tale arrow shape on their carapace. Real definitive. The second male had no such marking. Anyone agree?
I have heard your opening so many times I can now dance to the rhythm of it.
I wouldn’t even be mad if I had this species and it ended up MM. Theyre beautiful!
Any nature adventures planned? Love those.
Pinker one is Pamphobeteus Sp. Platyomma
I love these tarantula videos though I'm not allowed to have 1 because of landlord and this shows me the good sides of owning them without breaking rules thank you
I definitely don't know a thing about spider species but just looking at them, there is a definite difference. When the male on the right stepped out, I actually said "oooff!" That is one big tarantula!!
While other comments have covered the topic thoroughly before I got here, seeing how wild caught parents can sometimes be mis-identified, and slings looking very similar.
If the slings came from two different species in the same genus there are possibilities of the slings sharing combined and therefore differing DNA to both of the parents species, or (and more likely) would choose characteristics from one of the parents.
However if the species of parents are confirmed to be the same, and there were no sling escapees while trying to package/remove/care for the slings, mutations due to selective breeding/inbreeding are a small possibility.
Wow the purple on those spiders. Beautiful 😍💜 It almost makes me want to have one. 😊 BUT I'll just enjoy ur's Petko
Is that second ones common name called a Giant blue bloom? I bought a small sling from my exotic pet store but it had no species name on the tag unlike most of their slings. It has very long legs for his size kind of like that. Regardless that is a gorgeous tarantula. Massive leg span too.
They are a living spot the difference competition!
Absolutely gorgeous Ts. Feel like you should swap the males enclosures so the big one has extra leg room lol
There's nothing Pink at all in that tarantula, they're pretty much just purple 🟣
The 1st boy is for sure a Machala but the second one is a Platyomma. Not just the colors but the carapace pattern as well.
I currently have a pink toe tarantula and as we all know... it's never easy to stop with one. *pauses and looks at 25 fish tanks* I've been working on a new terrarium for a new arboreal T. My current was a rescue from people that thought it would be cool to own T's but then were afraid to open her box to change her water or feed her. I watch Josh's frogs ...yes, for T's, but I was curious where you guys shop for yours. I'm in the US.
I'm also finishing up a bearded dragon tank, all tanks are bioactive so I set them up and allow them to "stabilize" as if they were fish tanks. Lots of research later I'm ready to look for a bearded dragon as well.
Thanks for any suggestions!
Love your videos Petko! You always put a lot of effort and it shows. Keep doing what you do best and best wishes :)
hi i'm new here! Love the content, got no knowledge of spiders and creepy crawlers, but i am glad to learn a thing or two here!
2nd one is more like P. Sp. Platyomma like others have mentioned 👍
That is one really torn up straw, so many fang holes.
These T's are amazing!!! The prettiest tarantulas Itever seen.... I think I'm gonna haves
to abb these to my collection!!!🕷🕸🕷🕸🕷🕸🕷🖤
You should ask Tom from Tom's big spiders that is one of his favorite species. He is a really smart guy and is very knowledgeable
Tom Moran is his full name
I didn't even know tarantulas like that existed :S. They look amazing!
These are some serious nice tarantulas you got there petko
Speaking of pretty looking spiders I would love the day I see a Dark Den upload titled Peacock jumping spiders male and female so we can see the mating dance. It’s amazing. That and the full room tour I keep mentioning of course 😜🤣 Great video by the way 👍🙂 I love those colours. I remember as a kid thinking T was identified by it being orange and black and that is all. It’s great to see a thing so feared and that can gross (some) people out to look so beautiful and have such a mix of colours.
I'm a newbie in the hobby, but I'll try my best to help you. I'm from Germany and on Facebook, there are many tarantula groups. There is a guy who can tell you what species you've got, by having a look at the molt. Mabye there is someone like that in Croatia, too. Try asking in some groups or communities, there are very experienced keepers and breeders :)
13:06 ...did Borat just come into the Dark Den? ;)
Wow! The colors are so amazing. Do not even look real!
Im not a spider guy (not a spidercman either) but their may be an easier
way to measure. You know the desk mats or pads you use on your desk
for a writing surface? They're available in in 1/4" quadrant graph paper.
So you just let them stand on it and take some stills. Each square is a
quarter inch.
The bigger one is pretty 👌 but I like the smaller one more. The darker purple with the black looks so nice and like the pattern on the carapace.
Lol, the way they both leaned sideways in the side by side footage. Yes the first guy's carapace was very different from the second.
Omg he is HUGE!!! Beautiful Boys for sure 🖤🕷🕸
The Tarantula With The Bright Pink Colors Is Mixed With Puerto Rican Species Tarantula.
Anastasia from Netbugs is a pampho specialist! She sold me my machala and ultramarinus.
I was going to say the second looks like platyomma - the colouration is closer although they are very similar to machala - hope you figure it out :)
You need to get an amazing picture of Chromatopelma Cyaneopubescens!!! She’s soooo Pretty!!!!!
The pinker male looks more like a P.i Isignis and the smaller mail the the P. Machala
Purple is my birthstone & favourite color.
Royal Purple
Beautiful Tarantulas!
And I agree.....they look so different.
Best of both world's. (Bright & Dark)
♥The Video!
i also think that 2nd one is Platyomma sp. by look and also behaviour. Mine is skittish as hell as well :D
They are the same type and genus of tarantula but one leaves in a different environment than the other
I love anything Purple 💜
I'm not super versed in Pamphobeteus, mine are all slings/juveniles, but the brighter colored guy looks more like Pamphobeteus platyomma to me.
The chance for a female in 3 slings is 50:50 - for each sling. You just get 3 rolls of the dice.
Purple and blue tarantulas are the absolute prettiest
What a nice looking spiders holy
I love spiders the way they run
I've never seen such pretty spiders! Even though the bigger one is prettier, the smaller one sort of seemed to be more docile (except when presented with food) 😜 so I think I like him just a tiny bit more.
Absolutely beautiful all three of them! I am newer to the tarantula collective type stuff, but those are beautiful so I don’t know exactly what species they are. Thank you for sharing this great response from the first tarantula (female)feeding. 😮😮😮your biggest male is of course so beautiful. But they just might be all the same. Let us know what you find out.
Maybe the second one is pamphobeteus platyomma? The bright pinkish one.
Looks like a xenethis intermedia and a xenethis megascopula
The more pinky one is Pamphobeteus sp. Mascara :)