Why Modern Comic Books Are Horrible - Jordan Peterson Is The Red Skull?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 เม.ย. 2021
- This is why modern comics are so bad. Apparently Dr. Jordan Peterson, a man who has mainly talked about self-help, an individual's place in the world and the danger of being too politically correct, is the Red Skull now. You know, he's that villain from the second WW and one of the most evil people in the Marvel universe... hmm... sure. #redskull #Captainamerica #Marvel
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"Stand up straight with your shoulders back."
"Treat yourself like you are someone you are responsible for helping."
"Make friends with people who want the best for you."
"Compare yourself with who you were yesterday, not with who someone else is today."
"Do not let your children do anything that makes you dislike them."
“Hail Hydra”
“Do not let your children do anything that makes you dislike them” So if your kid is gay and you’re a homophobe aww you gonna stop your kid from being gay? Because that’s problematic to say the least. What a quack.
@@kobayashi1194 ARE YOU REALLY GONNA ARGUE WITH THIS GUY AND IGNORE THE HAIL HYDRA?
The hail hydra made me laugh pretty hard not gonna lie.
@@tincho0o The quote I was arguing against is one if the “Rules for Life” from Peterson’s book. I understood the joke.
@@DegenerateJay all hail hydra
Haven't started this vid yet but the title is hilarious
Clickbait 101
@@the.nerd58 how so? A lot of the video is about how there's no subtlety left in comics messaging which I'd say is an issue in general with modern entertainment. The fact that I can always turn on a show and tell who the writers probably want to be president is boring. I feel like I'm watching CNN or Fox.
@@the.nerd58 It's not really clickbait, more so attention grabbing, he talks about why he feels comics are getting terrible this day an age, so how is it clickbait?
Sadly dude it's real.
Why can't we have good, honest writers writing good, honest stories?
we dont have a good honest culture
Can’t believe a man that preaches about responsibility and you taking accountability for everything you do is being compared to a man that wanted control over everything completely polar opposites. Absolutely ridiculous. He’s helped so many people find their footing in life and improve their lives. Some people are unbelievable
He is Far-right author. That's why
Hi. I’m asking this sincerely, how are you defining far right?
@@luistoomuch Anyone right of far left is usually the under the surface definition.
@@luistoomuch notice they didn't even bother trying to answer or defend their point
Can i just say this is an amazing video, Jay. It's both really fucking humorous and really informative and well thought out.
I'm sure it'll make some people upset but hey, that's the nature of the beast. I get some people hate Peterson because of his disliking created pronouns like Xem Xer and being so outspoken on Canadian law but I really think he's pretty milk toast on things. I don't understand all the anger and I'm a pretty big advocator of lgbtq and trans rights in general. Him being concerned with free speech etc is a positive imo. Thanks for the support btw means a lot Natalie.
By the way Coates is going be writing the new reboot Superman film with one of Hollywood’s worst directors, JJ Abrams. What a a great duo. Can’t wait 😂😂😂😔😔
I liked Abrams Star Trek stuff but that sounds horrible
no superman fan with common sense is gonna watch that movie.
I quite like JJ Abrams but I have 0 hope for that Superman film
@@richardauthement3105 I swear to god watch his version of Superman struggle and get away with it because he's black and an alien, yet Henry Cavill's Superman struggles through 3 movies trying to come to term with himself and be the Superman we read in comics but yet everyone hates it.
@@ryanbobadilla2527 I think it's going to be 2 hour long lecture from that scumbag coates about his messed up views, without anything comic related.
I love Jordan Peterson.
I love him too
Marvel: *injects toxic and unwanted political commentary into their comics*
Also Marvel: “Why are our sales declining?”
Well there was always that in their comics though.
yeah go ahead and pretend comics havent always been political
“Unwanted political commentary” = whatever doesn’t fit your world view.
@@kobayashi1194 Political commentary is fine. Lack of any subtlety and treating readers like idiots is the real problem.
@@visionary1138 how was it not subtle? That was as subtle as it gets.
What in my opinion is the biggest problem with comics, (except for politization) is that NOTHING changes. Iron man is still an asshole in an iron suit, Captain America didn't retire and Batman is still fighting with The Joker...
Hey Jay are you excited for The Long Halloween movie
Anybody remember when the Joker and Darkseid teamed up with Donald Trump to steal the 2020 Election? 😂
What
Wait what? When did that happen? 🤣
@@voiceoftheknight1939 In the The Dark Knight Returns IV 😔
@@brendanferrell9519 interesting
So I think religion and politics both have a very strong relation to comics because cartooning is taking reality and making it more so. -Frank Miller
I still want to see politics represented but more smart and meaningful.
I actually agree. Some of my favorite comics have been political or politically motivated.
I think this is true, Miller himself has used politics in his stories really well in his comics, for example the dark knight returns, to show context and give us a good setting for the story whereas most modern comics, in my opinion, dont
So many people forget just how political a lot of comics used to be, but ever since they made a black Spider-Man, people freak out
Daredevil is a great representation of religion having a nice effect on the character as well as his moral understanding.
I quit my antipsychotic medication cold turkey, and the pain I felt was unholy.
I'm really sorry to hear that. I geniunely hope you're doing better.
@@DegenerateJay I was diagnosed with Paranoid Schizophrenia some years back. I quit therapy and my medication, and have been living comfortably since. Picked up writing, exercise, I'm pretty well off, truth be told.
I hope you do well for yourself too!
This sounds like a song lyric haha. Hope you are doing well, God bless!
SJWs dont get that the superhero genre are meant to inspire Western Men to reject Fascism, not push them into Embracing it as the only way for them... WELP.
Last time I checked comics weren’t ever telling people to become fascist. Also the fact that you bring up “western men” is extremely telling.
@@kobayashi1194 of what, EXACTLY..? You REALLY don't want to go down this road...
@@panthergod Well I can immediately tell you listen to those commentators that never shut about how the west is being attacked by “cultural Marxism” like they live in a Lord of the Rings movie. Stephan Molyneux comes to mind. I still want to know who’s pushing “western men” to embrace fascism. Because if it’s them being angry at the SJWs for stupid crap like this, that’s their own fault.
@@kobayashi1194 Why assume to know this person's lifestyle or beliefs before talking?
@@hughjass7777 Because of the language he uses. I’ve seen it all before.
And the guy who wrote this is writing a Superman movie? Kill me
I know my comment is not about the content of the video but
I am a fan all the way from Iran I love your work and what are you doing in here
Hey man, thanks a ton for the support. I hope you're doing well!
So i was wondering what kind of comics i should start reading
Whichever Genre you like most 👍🏻
@@MW-dd8vk ok thanks
Old ones
New 52 Batman is a great starting spot
@@visionary1138 agree
I keep saying this, but this whole situation is funny af to me
They made one of the most terrible villains inverse into an......incel Jordan Peterson knock off 😂
And I too also like Jordan Peterson
Shocker.
Not only is manga dominating comic book sales, but publishers like Image, IDW and Boom studios are making quality content that people are actually paying attention to.
I knew I liked you for a reason Jay. Much respect for standing up for the Lobster King.
What next? Donald Trump as Thanos?
Well, Marvel beat you to it. Several years ago, Marvel made MODOK look like Trump in an actual comic. I forgot what comic it was, but it’s pretty easy to find the image online.
Nah. Trump is more like Penguin
@@sunnyhoarder7424 Oh dear God
@@thetruej7872 It’s true.
@@kobayashi1194 Im on my second account but that comparison made me chuckle lol
I think the issue with modern day comic books are less so the writers and more so the executives that run Marvel or DC. Like the heads of those companies want politics in their books because they think it will please the masses so they hire people like Tasha. Not saying that Tashas not an idiot but he’s just doing what he’s being told to do.
There's a reason why Indie comics are making more money than mainstream comics and why Cyberfrog by Ethan Van Sciver made over a million dollars on Indiegogo
Jay and Jill are the best, the comic book industry is awful right now especially Marvel, bad writers and and bad artists equals garbage books. It's not about story telling or presentation anymore, it's about these SWJs agendas and if you don't agree with them, they'll call you every ism out there, good video and topic.
Dude I can tell from the title this is a spicy one, I'll watch it tomorrow, very excited
Can’t think of a single great superhero comic arc since ‘Batman: The Court of Owls’. That was 10 years ago.
Injustice and Injustice 2
Death in the family, dceased, flash by joshua williamson ,detective comics by james tynion, green arrow by benjamin percy the list goes on and on clearly u dont read comics
I love these rant videos.
Tbh I don't. They just make a subset of people super angry even though if argue I'm probably closer to centrist than right or left but if I want to talk about something I just do.
@@DegenerateJay I respect that Jay. I feel that a lot of people are afraid of having a bad take, so they hide their true thoughts to appease the masses. You don't have to comment on everything, but I'm glad that you don't shy away from things that are important to you.
speaking of Taneshi-Coates, DO NOT buy his run of Black Panther. Shit is sooo boring and 97% talking throughout the volumes. It sometimes has interesting concepts, but dude forgets he's writing a comic book....
The problem is that people take a hard stance on everything now days. Leaning to far either way will be your own downfall. You need liberalism to fly but you need coservatism so you dont get too close to the sun.
Your neighbors arent you enemies, there is a middle ground. You have to be willing to find that middle ground and not look at eachother as enemies. Most people have the same goals just a different path on how to get there.
That, I completely agree with. Unchecked right or left politics and beliefs are bad. This is also a reason why early founding fathers warned against hardline political parties. Sadly, we're now at the point where really only 2 parties are taken seriously, and they're both willing to do some pretty bad things when it serves them. I don't think everyone has to be in the middle on everything, but there's a difference between leaning one way on an issue and just sprinting towards the left or right headfirst with no regard as to what you're actually pushing towards in the end. They're supposed to balance out.
@@DegenerateJay Respect.
We need Jesus so much right now:
"Love your enemies"
"Forgive them for they know not what they do"
Keep making a false equivalency and blaming both sides while lefties ruin everything
@@Hates-handle did... Did you not read the original comment? :(
Thank you for this video and level headed perspective it’s nice to see!
That's why I rather support anime/manga.
I don’t understand how your worst opinion of JP could be any lower than indifference. Why do people hate him I don’t understand it? I’ve listened to a little bit of what he’s said and it’s cool i guess, if it helps people dope. Just weird behavior from people.
Buddy you clearly hadn’t heard enough 😅
@@kobayashi1194 no not really, I don’t care for personalities like him on either side.
@@thegoose2630 That’s fair
I don't like peterson personally I find him to be an opportunistic self help charlatan and a fence sitter but lefties jus hate him cause he won't honor pronouns and hes popular
I don't even hate Peterson I just disagree a lot with him
I'm politically speaking quite middle. A centrist is what I'm I suppose. I find a lot of value in his stuff about self improvement but find his views on gender really stupid. That's about it. I do like him tbh I do respect him although I think if we ever met we will argue more than have a discussion
Love the Video! You have the right idea.
Hello based department
I’d like to file a claim
The next comic will mock Gina Carano smh.
Good.
@@kobayashi1194 Why are people so preoccupied with her? If she's what so many say and is just a provacateur is she really worth devoting all this energy and attention to?
@@teezoowazoo7272 Idk as long as she apologizes for what she said, I don’t see the big deal. That’s the problem with today’s generation. We need to stop cancelling people and just convict them about what they were wrong about and set them right instead of condemn them and turn them away.
This world crazy af
Not all modern comics suck but a lot of them are very PC and that’s turning people off to them
i agree, their target demographic isn't really looking for that sort of thing imo
@@magicaljill Could it be because the "target demographic" you're talking about isn't the target anymore?
Marvel Fans: *wHy iS ThERe pOLitICs iN CoMiCs*
X-Men Exists
The problem isn't politics in comics at all. It's always been political to a degree, but the problem is the horrendous, condescending writing nowadays, and constantly tearing down old heroes just out of pettiness and spite.
@@stainedclassv0114 So you just don't like it when they attack your politics?
@@YouScareMe1 No, not at all. I don't mind viewpoints being challenged. It can lead to some very interesting stories. I said that my problem is with the writing, not with politics. Politics has always been in comics, but the thing is that the heroes aren't likable nowadays, at least to me, and the writing has become more and more obnoxious about it. I don't like the idea of seeing characters being sabotaged for the sake of petty politics, like what happened to Captain America a few years back when it turned out that he was apparently a Nazi sleeper agent the entire time.
You really missed the point didn't you?
Never heard anyone say in the video that there should be no politics in comments. Nice strawman
Not sure why there’s a lot of backlash in these comments but THANK YOU to those who are kind and respectful with their opinions here. We really appreciate it. And anyone who’s mean to my jay will be kneecapped :)
Sweetest man alive. Thank you, they wanna bully honesty out of him and have made his life hell. But he’s a genius and will surely be ok. Just sad this guy has been just nice
Thanks for the amazing commentaries they are some of the most interesting content that I listen too
Just want to let you know the crusades were a defensive wars with a lot of internal squabbles
I honestly had no idea anything like this was going on in comics. Month to month I’ve been reading miles morales, Peter Parker, Thor, and daredevil sprinkled in there sometimes. Kinda disappointing that there are bad ones like this. And I’ve liked all the art in those books lmao
Congratulations, your channel has been put on an alt-right watchlist somewhere......
Dang I haven’t watched this channel in a while, just wanted to remind you that your content is great man
This video needs more likes.
Do you think maybe this is why King in Black has been doing so well because it is a full on super action comic with decent writing
Probably. The venom stuff has mostly been good for the last handful of years imo in general.
I get what youre saying, I agree on some points and disagree on others but the title is kinda hurtful to modern comics. Like a few wonky (to say the least) marvel storylines dont speak for the interesting stuff their doing at DC, the always interesting independent comics and the constant fire that Image Comics has been releasing for decades. I feel like making generalizations about one thing while being critical or rooting for change in another is really really regressive in my opinion. I dont think this is a slippery slope situation.
Hey Jay, I was wondering if you were watching the new Invincible Series on Amazon Prime
I love Jay skirting that algorithm by saying “Yahtzee😂”
Keep up the great work bro.
Hopefully you and Jill are doing great
Although I have no doubt that you guys are. Stay awesome and stay schwae👊🏼
love you, thanks for being awesome!
The world is colapsing to shit. Sadly.
Can someone find the WW cover he's talking about?
I feel it’s weird to say things like “comics are not worth reading today” while comparing single issues from a current day comic to Watchmen and The Dark Knight Returns, often considered to be some of the best comic books ever made is really unfair. There a tones of comics being released today are worth reading today and writers such as Donny Cates, Al Ewing, Joe Hill and Johnathan Hickman are writing amazing stories that are worth reading. I also want to add the art in comic books now is just as good now than it was back in the 80s and 90s, Greg Capullo, Jason Faboks and Joe Bennett are creating amazing art in comics so saying comics nowadays just have mostly bad art just is wrong. Comic books still have value, if you want to read stuff without political correctness or whatever read less mainstream comics.
You know that's fair. I'm not trying to say that not a single one has value, although I know my title is an over generalization. I still think there's good comic series even in mainstream. I think that Spider-Man is doing well right now and so is immortal Hulk and there's a lot of interesting stuff happening around venom. I get its divisive but I also actually really enjoyed death metal. But I think that it's becoming far too common for comic books to be less impactful and more just a repeated cudgel of the same ideas over and over again. Personally I'm a bit tired of that and every time there are interesting changes to one of these universes it finds a way to revert back to its original state in some way or another too. I guess I'm a little tired of lack of creativity, a constant pushing of one ideology even if I sometimes agree with that ideology, it's still a little bit obnoxious, and I'm tired of what is now the accepted standard of comic book art. Not all artists are bad but I feel like the art was generally better 20 years ago. That's all just me though. I'm sure there's a lot of people who love comics to death and think I'm just being a boomer and fair enough.
Oh no modern comics are utter garbage if this new interpretation of red skull wasn't indicative enough
@@Hates-handle I mean this is just one single issue of a comic, there is heaps of good stuff out there being released today, in the original comment I listed a handful of writers and artists that are writing interesting and compelling stories that are definitely worth your time. In Jays reply he also lists some good stuff as well if your tastes align more with his.
@@dogquin1001 I haven't purchased a comic in almost 2 decade because every time I even just glance at em they look terrible.
For example couple years ago i strolled through a comic shop to see thor was replaced by jane foster and she fought some ancient norse villian that was literally quoting mgtow shit then i saw falcon became the new captain america and flew to the border to fight border patroll..
Shitty political pandering aside tho i find the eternal reboots, redesigns and reimaginings tiring asf and all the different writters ensures none of the characters have any consistency.
Dcs no better and while I'm sure there's some gems out there I don't wanna sift through the shit or enrich either of these companies to find em
@@Hates-handle if you havent read or purchased comics in 2 decades how can you say they suck by just glancing at them? Like i get some stories might be a turn off cause of a character like i was turned off by far sector but it turned out to be a really good story and was well recieved dont judge a book by its cover
Jordan Peterson is the GOAT
Jay I love your vids keep it up !!
Thanks Joshua!
Great video. Jay or anyone that reads this comment what are your favorite comic series currently coming out? Or favorite stories
My current favorites are American Vampire 1976, Immortal Hulk, Nightwing, and Wonder Woman
My favorites are nightwing and Spider-Man also really enjoying radiant black
damn this episode of thequartering hits different
All your comments are whining or being a troll
This is why I play it safe and read x men even today with dawn of x
I'm here for the title.
Great video would love to see you make vids about current comic tittles your enjoying right now because I just got into it myself and was shocked how they just beat you over the head with there politics and it’s only one way of thinking.
Immortal Hulk is a good title. Spiderman got good again too for Marvel. I don't love X-Men right now but a lot of people do so maybe I'm too harsh on it. Dcs Death Metal I loved tbh.
@@DegenerateJay I saw someone say you would never mention immortal hulk as good but here it is haha. These people know nothing about comics
they sound like anakin "If you're not with me, you're againt me!"
I don't agree with Peterson on a few things but most of the time he's based af 😎
But Red Skull is Hitler I am super confused how did Hitler become someone else
If they're going to pull this shit about captain America and red skull i want to see a DC comic about batman taking on the antifa thugs in gotham
Lmao then go play the Anarchy mission from Arkham Origins. They already did it there.
What am I even watching
i think the only comic ive ever finished is the first volume of the bloodborne comic
For me, I haven't read much mainstream regular comics since Ultimatum (I know, a while ago) and the had Blob eating Wasp. I was just completely turned away because it was for pure shock value. I was also picked on mercilessly in high school for being into this stuff. I just wish they were more interested in telling decent stories over the shock value single issue
Who are your guys’ favorite artists rn?
Greg Capullo is fantastic imo.
@@DegenerateJay One of my favorites at the moment is francis manapul
Doc Shaner
Oops I meant Shane Davis
Myself this is why I love Manga now more then comics
I definitely agree that the general societal movement back towards Tribalism has been a serious downgrade towards humanity. As a autistic teen who just wants to learn, see and understand the world it sucks that alot of that kind of stuff are things that already existed years ago and there's no new knowledge and enjoyment to gain. And even though I've lived in the US for all of my nearly 16 year life I don't associate it being the best thing ever. I've learned enough about the natural world and human history to understand that the US is a place, just as any other. It has Propaganda-like National anthems, messed up histories and divided peoples with varying opinions like everywhere else. That's just fact. It sucks though that those divisions of people don't realize that it's ok for others to have different opinions.
But the human world never changes. No matter the levels of communication, power of weapons or bodies in power the structure of society and it's minute details never changes in the end. Hell, Superhero comics started out as Propaganda Machines, they might as well end that way too. The human world and it's aspects just don't change unfortunately.
Can't wait for the Superman film... Seriously take DC out of WB hands they are gonna keep dropping the ball
“This is gonna be a divisive statement”
“I like the most dominant, common, accepted and widely supported political person in our time” wow, truly fighting hard against the tides of.... someone
There were some mad people in the comments still that I was seeing at least. I think you might be underestimating the amount of people who aren't that bright and get mad fast at nothing.
@@teezoowazoo7272 like two or three people lol, Peterson makes so much money by acting like a messiah, telling people advice they would get from any scam self help book, the difference with Peterson is that he has done stuff such as: an interview with Stefan Molyneux, a man who openly claims black peoples are genetically inferior LMFAOO
@@debbiehargreaves3350 My thoughts exactly!
@@kobayashi1194 I've been reading through these comments and you're one of the people who came off as very annoyed and disagreeable about anyone even liking Peterson.
So, because he interviews somebody, he holds all the same views as them? What about all the reporters that interviewed Jordan Peterson? Are they now as bad as him?
I couldn't agree with this video more.
Can I buy those kneecaps
Of course, what size necklace would you like
We support you man. This is a community that values free speech, which gives me some hope
See I'm not the biggest fan of Peterson. I like some of what he says and also heavily disagree with him on other things. But, as a rational human being, I can disagree with him and not label him a literal Nazi
Completely reasonable. I definitely don't want to advocate that someone should love him. I get that many won't just like many won't like me. Though to compare someone to a perpetrator of one of the most vile human atrocities in human history is to me not only disrespectful to the truth but also to the victims.
@Rahim Mian So what's your evidence then beyond an overused phrase
If you focused more on "prescence of politics vs agendas" you might have done better with some viewers. Some of these comments just have the mindset of a cultist. But really I don't think you can ever win with them.
You're probably correct. I did the best I could but it'll certainly never be perfect either and I'll never claim that everything I say is ever without any fault at some point.
This and other reasons..
I was going to say something stupid but I change my mind and yeah I think politics in comics is great but you have to be smart about it and not just inject your feelings into it.
you can put your feelings into it but it cant just be all feelings and no intelligence so i kind of agree how comics are getting a little worse.
and this coming from a person who doesn't read comics that much and just casually reads comics here and there.
These are the same writers who prefer writing villains because their role models are the ones that failed to improve themselves, since the best villains are failed heroes of the same story ie Spider-mans villains all being arrogant, intelligent or emotionally unavailable which is basically the person Peter was before uncle bens death. The hero is the one who experiences trauma and improves themselves and those around them rather than spreading it: Batman/Joker. Modern comic writers like the villains more because the heroes make them feel like they should be better and you know not the kind of petty lil' b... who makes people they don't like into comically evil nazis.
i still like more X-MEN LEGENDS 1,2 than that Spider game
...
wish a new X-MEN game with that gameplay but free from modern Cancer
The sad truth is that comics have been like this since the late 70's and the beginnings of the 80's. Comic writers calling people they disagree with a Nazis!
Not sure if this is the place to promote this, but I wrote a new, wholly original, superhero book (it isn't a comic, but it's something, and I'm not the greatest writer)
I am a Republican
Nice comment
Wow you’re so brave
@@huhhuh364 Why would you get triggered at someone just saying they're republican.
Interesting insight
@@andyowski1515 hm, I didn’t know I was triggered after writing a 4 word response. But okay
Yeah I agree I still collect some of mordern comics just main comics not the ones where i need to have moral lesson shoved down my throat and I don’t mind Jordan Peterson. Yeah that comic after saw just few pictutes from it was so bad. Have a good day
So what actually happened in the whole comic issue cause just me personally think this is red skull weaponizing it like how he always weaponize things did the writer personally say this himself or did he use it as a idea in his comic
Who’s Jordan Peterson never heard of him
Only real good Marvel books nowadays are Zdarsky's Daredevil and Cates' Venom, the rest range from passable to horrendous
Nick spencer run on spiderman is good
@@sunkaiju45 Ironically it's good because spencer understands why readers loved Spider-Man in the past. It still does some new things but it's interesting one of the best received comics today is looking to the past to get that praise. A lot of the newer ideas in comics do seem to lack any subtlety and deep thinking.
@@andyowski1515 Spiderman and daredevil every time marvel is in the dump are the only ones I notice that seem to be consistent, not including the clone saga or the late dan slott run after surperior spiderman with a few shining examples like spiderverse or spider island and than sucking until spiderman fans from what I heard decide to throw fits until the end of his run dan slott made the red goblin and a couple issues that were good, dan slott from what I know can write good stories is just that he didn't want to out of spite which didn't do him any favors, but hey at least we got the chip run of spectacular spider-man which was also fantastic.
Also another thing I heard was that nick spencer quit his addiction to twitter correct me if I am wrong.
The red skull never said total bullshit about lobsters lol
Lmao exactly
Kinda unrelated to the topic of the video at hand, but holy crap, I love Jill.
I do want to talk about Clownfish TV a bit. If you like thethe channel, I think you shouldn't read the rest of my comment. It's not because I don't think you guys can handle a different opinion, but that might ruin you enjoyment and I don't want that. I'm also a bit biased when it comes to channels like these. And my opinion is drawn out of a single topic.
Because of some videos in the topic of the new She-Ra cartoon, I did draw some conclusions about the channel. One of them being that they are overreacting. They didn't watched the whole show because of the first season and called it bad because of it. Like, you can say it has a bad start, but that doesn't give you the right to criticize something that you didn't watched. Even some titles are hige exaggerations. In one of them they have said that it was a multi-milion dollars fan fiction, which it makes it sounds like the show was expensive, when in actuality it runned over a small buget. Because of those videos, I was wondering if they even use more then one source when they make videos. Still, if you like it, fine! I just don't see enough effort in their videos.
Ikr I saw the thumbnail on those videos on she-ra and I was like, “great more toxicity and the unnecessary drama from other cis men on a show that is actually what Minorities can enjoy and relate to the representation of who they are like” I always see other guys talking like the cartoons in the 80’s were better but then watching a clip of 80s she-ra was the most boring and cliche I’ve seen. I rather enjoy different versions of my favorite characters to see the difference of each interpretation.
@@legoben98productions I've watched a lot of those she ra videos and while I don't one hundred percent agree I don't know how it was toxic. One of them is a woman who didn't like the characterization. I don't think they called for the deplatforming of the creators or anything crazy that was toxic in any way that I saw.
@@kylebutler9281 one of them (don’t remember who because it was forever ago) talked about how she-ra shouldn’t have muscles because it makes her look tomboy, how unnecessary it is and how it’s disgusting or unattractive it is into having her more being fit and heroic than being in Barbie portions and more of a damsel in destress, I’m like she’s supposed to be a warrior fighter why wouldn’t she have muscles and strength is something people appreciate it doesn’t diminish that it has to reflect on the fact she’s a girl fighting evil, how she was in the old cartoon because it was mainly to sale toys like he-man didn’t give any interest in making her independent or even capable of being a defender of the universe when they had the love interest more dynamic than the title character being dynamic, forcing random romantic stuff that doesn’t feel comfortable nor needed and have any guy taking charge than she-ra whenever they have her faint and give up without trying to then wait for any male character to takeover.
I'm a manga reader who has tried to get into comic books but it's just difficult to get to the good stuff. Not even for political reasons. Manga is miles ahead of comic books because comic books are still stuck in the 20th Century.
I agree with the idea that being subtle is key and that every story does not need to reflect or preach some sort of ideology but I can't help but feel like your own biased might be getting in the way. Just because you disagree with someone or their approach does not mean they are any less genuine.
Mischaracterizing a cheap self help guy as a nazi is disingenuous asf
@@Hates-handle I honestly have not read the story, however, from what I gathered solely from this video and what I know of Jordan Peterson, it just seems like the author is taking his own observations and no so subtly replicating them in his art. That does not make it good art, or smart art but it certainly does not make it disingenuous.
@@extonjonas6820 It's disingenuous because there is no observation of peterson's nazism to be made, hes just an opportunistic self help guy with milk toast politics that often askew right anyway
@@Hates-handle But obviously he is not mean that he is literally a nazi. Its hyperbolic and allegorical. He is relating the fear mongering and victimhood of the nazi movement to Peterson's ideas. Also Nazism is a form of facism which is a far right ideology, so I am not sure what "askew right anyway" was supposed to mean.
@@extonjonas6820 It is hyperbolic but not allegorical because peterson's ideas aren't nazi ones, he often askews rightwing views that is to say he doesnt align with them 100%.
You're either disingenuous or jus really ignorant of nazis to think this vanella charlatan preaching basic bitch self help and personal responsibility is akin to them
I think it’s fine, Red Skull has lost everything, Hydra is gone, he has no resources, so he is now trying to recruit followers the way many extremist groups in the United States currently do, the thing about recruiting people looking for a purpose and telling them what they want to hear is entirely in character for Red Skull, Skull has always been portrayed as a brilliant speaker, and this is showing him using the internet to create what most likely will be some form of Neo-Hydra, everything the Skull is doing makes sense for his character because he has never been shown as an idiot, he knows how to influence people into believing an extremist ideology like that of Hydra’s
Edit: fuck Jordan Peterson
Jordan Peterson: "Always tell the Truth or at least never lie."
Ta-Nehisi Coates: "That's what a Nazi would say!"
I’m a conservative and this personally disgusts me. I agree with jay wholeheartedly when he said that comic books can coexist with politics but this is horrid. Someone who love captain America and is my favorite marvel hero, I’m disappointed. But hey, what did I expected from someone like Mr. Coates.
@trey darling please don’t make this a political discussion. I’m not having one. If my comment had been centered around one then I would oblige but it wasn’t. I will say that I am conservative because it aligns best with my Christian views in my opinion.
@trey darling The Christian views follow the teachings of Christ and the ten commandments. You have baseless claims that we are wrong on all policy? Which ones. The fact that you’re blanket terming either speaks of how misinformed or hateful you are. God does use the death penalty for sinners. Babies whom God has created into this world that are terminated have not sinned. Scientists and the like would be jumping for joy at even finding a cell on another planet because that’s life. A baby starts as a single sell. I can see that my comment was loosely based on politics. I just don’t see how stating ones political belief and that calling someone a nazi is bad as a topic for debate. I can’t speak for our entire population but not all of us the only reason we have to even debate when we post is because people like you come in and shout cries of horror because we believe differently than we do. Not every person believes the same and not everyone should go and call debate someone about their political views unless they are so far as to be a nazi, Marxist, etc. contrary to what you state, I do not want everyone dead. That’s why I’m pro life. I love everyone on this planet because God and the son have loved me. It is certainly not a Christian view to kill a fellow human. That’s one of the first commandments.
@trey darling 😐
Hail Lobster.
I prefer older comic books, to be honest.
jay how dare you like jordan peterson and have a opinion on the internet. smh
I think the title is generalizing it a bit too much the video is basically more about politics in comics. Comics now don't suck all we recently had Batman Three jokers, Marvel King in Black, Death Metal, Joker war etc . I could go on and on and on its just that some writers put their views in there work and that sometimes compromise the art.
Agreed. Jake was never really good at titling these kinds of videos.
@@kobayashi1194 nah its really clickbaity
He is talking about how they sre declining there is still good but less good than there was. The good is starting to get worse and worse
@@Tacoterm still he mostly talks about politics in comics not comics in general.
Well to be frank, he titles the videos like this to attract new viewers, the title, its attention grabbing, that's the point. What would you recommend he change the title too that will also be attention grabbing?