UK Covid inquiry: Patrick Vallance claims ‘complete lack of leadership’ in diary
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- Boris Johnson and Rishi Sunak suggested Covid should let "rip" - even though people would die from the virus, according to evidence at the public inquiry from the UK's former chief scientist.
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The hearing was shown diary entries written by Sir Patrick Vallance at the time - including comments from Mr Johnson's then senior advisor, Dominic Cummings - who commented: "Rishi thinks just let people die and that's okay".
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Negligence when in charge of a car is an offence but negligence when in charge of a country is not. Stunning
Well said.
I’m speechless. Well said Sir/M’am!
Malfeasance in public office is though.
Tonight on the news a woman avoided prison for $6.5M of tax evasion. Someone I knew was done for £400k VAT and got 3.5 years. The moral is, if you are going to do a crime, make sure it is beg enough that you don't get punished. Mone is another example of this kind of thing.
@@Andrew-rc3vh Make sure you are in the right tier (class) of society!
Criminally incompetence , They need to be stripped of power permanently.
Including Starker who wanted to impose more controls for longer.what would the economy be like now?
They tell me a twelve year old can understand this. Send out for a twelve year only as I cannot make head nor tail of it. Groucho Marx. This was meant to be a joke.
they are to rich for the laws that govern us plebs
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the worst part is I don't find the total & utter incompetence of the tory government shocking anymore
Labour will be worse
@@alexanderde-sowah857 Which is why Cummings wanted to get rid of the lot - Civil Servants, Ministers, you name it. Is it possible to be worse?
Haha you must be a Russian bot.
Both are worse then one and other
@@alexanderde-sowah857ones proven to be terrible.. I’d rather role the dice and at least give them a go at this point.
"Boris Johnson has no concept of risk" Chief Medical Officer, UK
Do whatever you can, canvas, talk to friends and family, make sure these people who have such little value for human life are out of office for a generation.
@@pete__wild Yes, we all need to make sure that everyone knows this is the truth of it.
Boris Johnson fans....."voted for him because he's a funny guy,"
Dumb people like dumb people 😢
Boris strikes me as the kind of man who'd be bamboozled by a capri sun
😂😂😂
Lol
brilliant haha
I don't have the patience for Beano English, however much it appealed to that flabby eight year old.
😂😂😂😂
This is criminal incompetence
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Boris not recalling something?,what a shocker
That's the education Eton gets you - he doesn't know how to look at a chart a 14 year old would understand.
Eton teaches confidence not competence
Embarrassing for Eton and Oxford
@@kenmay1572 mic drop
@@EthanZoidHe studied classics at Oxford. Admissions to Classics courses are not competitive at all.
@@kenmay1572 So true, it beats the humanity from it's pupils. Perfect for placing them in positions of power that require sociopathy as a key trait.
This should have prison sentences
Calm down ffs
@@timcomley5948 thousands of people d ied due to their incompetence, there needs to be punishments from this.
It’s understandable that some mistakes were made. But to repeat mistakes, not prepare, not give a damn and not get any consequences for the arrogant lies and scams is unforgivable. I’m sure every country has a similar tale to tell.
Plus the UK was affected later than countries like Italy and France. We all saw it on the news, we knew what they were going through and what was coming our way. To still be so unprepared is inexcusable, verging on negligent.
Most European countries were far more competant than ours
Johnson was the worst person to be in charge, at this critical time, the man's a complete numpty, only interested in his own popularity
We have politicians who are versed in the classics and have no idea about science, technology, or anything that the modern world uses to survive. Quoting Homer is well and good, but it they can't understand a chart or scientific methodology, then you have a problem.
it would have been fine is boris just left the science to the experts, you cant expect the leader to be an expert in everything. Its his personality of thinking he knew best and downplaying the panic with a keep calm and move on attitude which was misused. I mean eat out to help out was so silly.
@@glens18account I'd replace the term silly with criminal.
Maybe Classics should be relegated to the level of "non-degree" that the Tories seem so fond of - unless you're going to teach it or write about it, what purpose does it serve anyway?
@@HowardLeVert a sense of place in the world, the birth of a lot of the values the UK currently has come from ancient greece. I don't think it's vital but if you want to understand the UK, the West and the world then history, even ancient history is all important for that. leaders should probably have a deep understanding of the country they are leading.
@@HowardLeVert aristocracy, since charlemagne being inbred in the upper class, will not change in such election system, esp. winner takes all
Why've are we surprised that the government couldn't care less about people?
They must have had hand puppets to explain things to Boris.🤣🤣
Yep, was thinking of the 2DTV sketches from years ago when a US general was trying to explain anything to Bush Jr 😅😅😅
paper straw or plastic?
Boris Johnson would be bamboozled by a laser pointer.
Nah, he'd be chasing it like Larry the Cat.
I think most of could see this happening at the time, 2 years of this before anyone gets a £15 fine?!?!?!
”What you see is what you get.
You’ve made your bed, you better lie in it.
You choose the leaders and place your trust.
As their lies wash you down and their promises rust”
- The Jam
Oh, how appropriate - Eton Rifles...
@@HowardLeVert And they're STILL there.
@@HowardLeVertGoing Underground
It has never been more true: you get the government you deserve.
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Yes, that is true. But the First Past The Post System does distort the overall public vote. Proportional Representation is a better system, although it takes longer to produce the final results.
And people will keep voting for them in spite of all this.
the Thames is a big river with beautiful floodplains covered with flowers and herbs
What about those of us who didnt vote for these entitled Wannabe dictator? Do we deserve to loose our schools, businesses, homes, our pensions, even our lives?
Genuinely blood boiling
Especially from the two scientists thinking they were above everyone and everything else. What a mess they made as well as expense and fear
We can now finally see how Totally & Utterly out of their Depth they were. Politicians so removed from Humanity.
In fairness Johnson is bamboozled by a word search, Sunak doubtless got a kickback for eat out to kill.
Got all the big calls right, eh? Pretty clear that he had no grasp of the situation at all.
They where sorting their stocks and share's out and waiting for the nod from their Donners. Only thing is time ran out and they missed the chace to shut the door, we would have not had to go into such a hard lock down isolate small groups or a small Area but as hard as it was NHS not put under such preasure "All those Doctor's and Nurse's" did not have to die they scrifiiced all those people /evil Gross Mismanagement /Jail for the lot of them.
COVID sure has lasting impacts. Were still recovering from it to this day.
As intended...this virus was no accident!!.❤️🇬🇧🇺🇦
Actually it was the idiotic decision mAking of the day that causes our lasting impact!
It's NOT over!
Call environmental health. There's a rat in that restaurant!
the country where I am from which many will consider third world seems to have done better than first world countries like the U.K . I am shock & very surprise form what is coming out of this Inquiry . Seems to me Like Boris Johnson at the time was no different than Trump doing the height of the pandemic .
The UK is very much a 3rd world country.
Both in the grip of the FSB, Trump courtesy pf Trump Tower Moscow, Boris courtesy of Lebvedev at his Perugia Estate.
This is why government ministries should be led by people from an external pool of experts who know what they’re talking about. Obviously not all ministers can be experts and thus require advisors like Valance and Witty to fill them in.
Huh? Vallance and Whitty were up to the corruption in their necks, with both having very comfy stock options in the big pharma companies pushing the muck. You need to give your bonce a SERIOUS wobble.
You'll find them in the Select Committees, co-opted experts borrowed from outside. But they'll walk out before being forced into the Civil Service.
When is covid coming back?? We don't want to go to school
Lol fr 😂😂😂😂
I’m 2020 the hospitals were empty ….
The least surprising headline from this enquiry...
It'll make for some watching when Hancock and Boris have to give their testimony
Where are all the Boris fan boys and girls. He must be prosecuted
To Jean Adamson and everyone who lost loved ones - Not just by this terrible virus, but selfishness and the most depraved incompetence, I am so sorry that you have to hear this...
If this was a private company they would be in court for criminal negligence or corporate manslaughter. What I really want to know is whether there will be reap tangible consequences for this government after the inquiry
Misconduct in public office is a very old common law offence. It seems to fit the bill for a lazy prime minister and a chancellor on both of whose watch tens of billions were defrauded from the taxpayer.
Say it plainly: they're incompetent, unable to understand anything new, and so completely unsuitable for a crisis. As a result, they should have resigned, but didn't.
And still haven't. Given they're now after basic human rights, I'm not going to hold my breath about elections in the near future.
I'm sorry but everyone knew that encouraging people to go out and eat increases the risk of infection. People need to take personal responsibility. No one was forced to leave their house
"Wilfull ignorance" seems to cover it, which is no defence at law in any other circumstance.
But no one is challenging the scam.
Well Boris took care of hope of his ovenready deal. He had no time to waste 😂.
Lots of old age died because they taken from the hospital and back to the old age homes this was done on porpoise
Common porpoise, not the harbour species.
So much for an Eton Education. 😅😅😅😅
Johnson knew what he was doing from day 1. He had science advisors. Not a case of bamboozled, he knew what he was doing. So did sunak.
Here are your Covid millionaires
Can we have an election please
Not till sunak has finished his mission for his master's in Brussels...to utterly destroy Brexit and lose catastrophicly to labor so they can claim a mandate to push the UK back into the EU!!.❤️🇬🇧🇺🇦
All that will achieve is changing the establishment house colours from blue to red. There's no real democracy in this country.
Election's are Rigged.
In about 2100 do you?
No
W. H. O. were the worst.
There seemed and seems to be so much incompetence, negligence and callousness in Downing Street that there is only one resident of that building who can be excused from any responsibility for that incompetence, negligence and callousness - Larry, the Downing Street Cat.
Sunak can't even serve food properly
No one is shocked it was bad as we all figured it was
Rishi deserves a very good farewell, and it should be arranged as soon as possible without undue delay.
There is a broader issue of gross scientific illiteracy in government. It’s all PPP students from Oxford.
Imagine listening to the tories and big pha rma.
Thanks for posting
Incompetence is the word.
Why there isn't a clear consequence of criminal charges for such extreme incompetentence and ignoring scientific advice is beyond me. I would hope that would actually cause them to follow rules and procedure.
Rishi Sunak has always been seeking photo opportunities 🤣
Much respect to Jean Adamson, who speaks good sense in a measured fashion, when I would want to shout and scream at the stupidity and injustice of it all!
OH NO!!!!!
Bamboozled is the wrong word. PV meant disconcerted, I'll guess.
Johnson is a waste of time - a man who cannot manage his personal life, with multiple marriages, unknown number of children fathered etc. This points to someone with psychological problems, and he should not be allowed to run anything!
We need an election now
Tories will delay it as much as possible because they know they will lose.
They all blame Johnson. Face facts the Current PM was party to all of this. Also broke every rule that Johnson broke. Vallance was also there to advise both parties on Covid. So what springs to mind is covering your own backside.
There are people in jail who have done less harm,than those criminals.
um, we all KNEW that eat out to help out was risky.. it was about striking a balance and at that time giving people the freedom to act responsibly IF they were safe to do so and if they chose to do so. it's like everyone that is being critical right now forgot what was going on.
Those diary exempts about Johnson's incompetence sounded like an Onion skit
Why didnt he make this public at the time. Untrustworthy is perhaps the most polite description i can use for him.
Boris Johnson would struggle to complete a three piece Jigsaw without the box.......
Normalizing a lie
Here am I, a scientist and now trainee patent attorney, who'd love to go into politics, but I seriously doubt whether any political party would give me the time of day. I wouldn't even be allowed to get to first base. I certainly would not be selected as a candidate in any constituency, not even a local council constituency.
SNP or Greens and lib dems wld take u.
Oh how the rats run and scatter when the light is shone upon them.
This is normal for UK governments, why do you think they care anymore about it's own citizens compared to Russian, Ukrainian, Palestinian or Iraqi citizens?
Can Paddy tell us a single prediction the ‘science’ got right?
The science had endless models of infectious disease transmission patterns and mitigation measures backed by historical and, eventually, COVID statistics.
The fact that BJ was bamboozled proved he is not the sharpest tool in the box and never has been.
The only one Bojo never blamed was Larry
Who recorded the lot.
@@JelMain Makes great mystery for the anti British media that couldn't find any of this in 2020 ?
@@aleccap5946 That's because they're run by Common Purpose, and so couldn't spot a Communist Purpose if it bit them.
Strange how he didn't say anything at the time seeing people were supposedly dying......
I ask again did you and your family have the genuine injection.
It's obvious it would increase infection rates, but it was a decision based on balancing out the risk of businesses collapsing and people retaining jobs.
these conspiracy theories are so stupid.
*Ah, BoriSty, the Bamboozled Pride of Eton and Oxford! Who could ever have imagined it?*
What did people expect putting this narcissist in charge of the country??
God bless all those eho Lost someone dying alone ehen hearing this incompetent news.
2 simple rules for life;
No.1 - Never trust a tory
No.2 - Never forget rule number 1
Jean Adamson is clearly a very intelligent person and she is right. In the initial stages when knowledge about this virus was still being gleaned, it was inevitable that mistakes would be made and this is true the world over. However, as Jean Adamson rightly says, the Johnson Government failed miserably to learn from the mistakes of the first wave and like Jean, this is the point where I too feel anger. Not only where they the Government incompetent, but arrogant, selfish and incredibly disorganised. I am also suspicious of these experts that are now coming out to deride Boris and his gang as they too failed to make them understand and I am sensing that their evidence now is also part of their 'get out of jail card' and 'it wasn't me, it was them' attitude. They too need further scrutiny.
You're entitled to be furious at the first wave, too. In 2006, the WHO published the lessons learned from SARS in 2002, half a page with maybe a dozen bullet points. I'd held the EU's hot desk at the time, but Cameron fired the lot of us in 2011. I was socially close to them again in 2015, when Boris repeated the exercise. Not a thing had been learned.
Blame the scientists but subtlety right?
How’s the day job at central office going?
The scientists are not coming out now and deriding Boris. Their diary entries that they wrote AT THE TIME are coming out - they are merely explaining why they wrote those words at the time.
I disagree. As with brexit, where tories told everyone to ignore the experts, they clearly did the same thing with covid. That's a public school education for u. The specialists cld have explained to this lot til they were blue in the face, and probably did, yet it wld make no difference. The blinkers were on, the minds set, nothing was gonna move them.
@@geezerbutler4582 Me? I thank God I met Boris on the way up, and was side-swiped by him. I'm probably the original weirdo and misfit they wanted in there, but discovered firstly we're few and far between, and secondly that I'd never work for them - the job description was an illegal nightmare akin to slavery. In fact, my dad was the Select Committees' Materials Technologist of choice, and advised HM on the entire Engineering Sector - Prince Philip was mentored by Grandpa Tom as a snotty.
WHO voted for BJ? Who said bring Boris BAck?! Well the man was useless and unfit for the job. There you have it 😅
The enquiry is a waste of money when a newspaper could have got this evidence
the ‘enquiry’ is a cover up
Unelcted bureaucrats
Why isnt that surprising
Absolutely disgusting
it is commonsense and pure obvious that there was going to be a rise in covid cases and transmission back then because of people falling for the eat out to help out. I for one didn't go out to eat during that time and decided to stay at home. I was fine staying at home. Though my brother and others who did go out ended up getting sick because my brother was more interested in getting meals cheap. The eat out to help out was a pure trap and people didn't realize the risks.
It took them only three years to discover what I knew three years ago! And how much are they paid in benefits again?
Simply not good enough . He should have been asked to described what the options were as he saw it
Now everyone knows how brilliant an Eaton education is!
Such a "scholarly education" should prohibit "one" from being anywhere near Westminster- Parliament- & Definitely No.10 ffs!!
Responsibility? DO BRITISH PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WORD OF "RESPONSIBILITY"
We do, but revenge is a dish best eaten cold.
@@JelMain Revenge is the consequence of inhumane ..Responsibility = If you are responsible for something, you will be held accountable for the outcome of what comes from it, as this was your duty. For quality management systems it is important that you take responsibility for your actions.
@@KoKomusic83You still don't understand. They lack all understanding of the subject. The content of these hearings has established beyond any doubt that the entire Party is unfit to govern. And yet they're still there.
@@JelMain Yeah, I really don’t understand British political and British society..So my criticism may be wrong..Western and Eastern are completely different,so I can’t compare with Eastern countries..
@@KoKomusic83 We're a very stoic people, asking nothing more than to be left alone. Unfortunately, politicians think it's their job to interfere, when they're not capable of it, triggering an advanced hygiene reaction: we'll get rid of them. I've succeeded by moving fast and leaving little trace: but when they finally got to see for themselves, they made the usual pig's ear of it and now it's nasty.
I'd handled SARS on the European crisis desk single-handed, although it's only by divine grace it didn't escape. That's how I can comment with information: I had it straight from the Chief Administrator of the French Hospital in Hanoi. If you look at the films of the US Air Traffic Control conversations with pilots on 9/11, they faced the same problems: you can only decide on what facts you have, and get idiots replying "Oh, but I'm going to Boston" - I'm an old sergeant, and my reply would have been to demonstrate what happens when you disobey an order. Hauling an MP out of the Commons like a bear of very little brain, with his head hitting every-single-step -as-he-left would have been a real pleasure.
Brits have to choose amongst Keir Starmer, Rishi Sunak, Boris Johnson, Liz Truss.
No wonder there is the cost of living crisis.
And so the truth comes out as it had to. Life is unfair and truth will always say as much.
It's not that life can be tough. It's that this bunch were homicidal maniacs completely out of control - including the medics who were used to lend a gloss of plausibility to what was actually unmitigated chaos.
So, are we all still "sick of experts", or is it about time to let the experts do what they studied all their lives to do instead of relying on populist "strongmen"? Nobody should have this much power.
DumBo Johnson always seems to fall up the way? He's a dangerous fool who's day will come and when it does I'll be celebrating indefinitely.
What's the purpose of this circus. Those criminals will be free anyways.
"Dine out to Die out". Fixed it for you. Whrn i saw it advertised everywhere i had a flashback to the same govt making a video explaining to the public how going to a restaurant etc was a high risk for covid so i just sat therr with my mouth open in disbelief.
Agree with all of it BUT you have to appreciate that our PM’s don’t study virology and they were also trying to balance the collapse of the hospitality industry that would leave hundreds of thousands of people jobless. It’s well and good criticising in hindsight, but how would any of us handled those tough decisions? It was a global pandemic.
HOW SHOCKING (NOT)! THE SEEMINGLY MOST UNSUITABLE PRIME MINISTER HAD DIFFICULTY UNDERSTANDING THE SCIENCE. THE CONSERVATIVE PARTY MUST TAKE COLLECTIVE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE OUTCOMES!