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- In a profound talk about technology and power, author and historian Yuval Noah Harari explains the important difference between fascism and nationalism -- and what the consolidation of our data means for the future of democracy. Appearing as a hologram live from Tel Aviv, Harari warns that the greatest danger that now faces liberal democracy is that the revolution in information technology will make dictatorships more efficient and capable of control. "The enemies of liberal democracy hack our feelings of fear and hate and vanity, and then use these feelings to polarize and destroy," Harari says. "It is the responsibility of all of us to get to know our weaknesses and make sure they don't become weapons." (Followed by a brief conversation with TED curator Chris Anderson)
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"You should never underestimate human stupidity. It is one of the most powerful forces that shape history." Truer words were never spoken.
Psychologically weak as well
+Awakened2Truth You should drop your prejudices concerning communism, christianity and socialism, and become a more skeptic as well as realistic person. To start with: consider that A: the hypothetical figure Jesus Christ from the bible is a very socialist person, that B: so many people were killed was also due to that so many people have been able to become alive due to improvements in agriculture, infrastructure and healthcare, and that C: these murders were mostly motivated from political perspective, not to promote their ideology, but just to gain or hold power.
Why, history repeats itself and the errors get repeated too.
Shauday Smith Should we also not _overestimate_ human intelligence as well?
And everyone clapping as if they are not also a stupid human. Pretentious
“A dictator may not be able to provide me with good healthcare but he will be able to make you love him and hate the opposition” Dang this hits hard
... China is now facist.
@@1mol831 Yes they are. Fascist under leftist ideology.
India and modi lovers prove this argument!
Israel is fascist
This young man is brilliant!
As a Congolese I was first a little offended when he mentioned my country as being not "nationalist" and therefore poor. But once I thought about the bunch of egoistic leaders we have in power, I have to admit he's right. Congolese leaders sadly don't serve nationalistic interests but rather their own or tribal interests. His statement leaves out the complexity of foreign interventions + the damage that causes this country to be poor (Afghanistan is as much concerned as my country) but from the nationalistic point of view alone he's right.
Decolonize your mind. Dont let his eurocentric narrative influence your view of your country. The premise of his entire argument is flawed. He is comparing countries that were not colonized to countries that were colonized. Sweden, Switzerland, Japan are basically ethnostates with one dominant ethnic group that created their own borders based on a sense of ethnic unity. Congo, Afghanistan, Somalia have all been colonized by various foreign powers who have created borders and heightened internal divisions to conquer those states IF you view any TH-cam video with a history of wars in Europe. you will see how the borders changed frequently as they fought to create a sense of 'nationalism' for hundreds of years and once they found that sense fought each other almost to mutual destruction in the world wars. Dont the short period of history of internal conflict post -colonization denigrate your view of your country. Israel has a strong sense of 'nationalism' because they drove the Palestinians from their lands and put them into an apartheid state. The Israelis didnt want to live in one state- Palestine with Jews and Muslims. They created an ethnostate only for the Jews and this is touted as 'nationalism". This is very similar to the problem he was criticizing in fascism- the fascist state tries to create an ethnostate based on nationalism.
Sorry but his analysis & yours are fundamentally flawed. Claiming that nationalism is the reason that countries are rich and prosperous is just one aspect of the story. Congolese leaders not caring about national interests has a history going back to leaders who have been placed in power by colonial European entities for their own interests. African countries are dependent economies a situation that feeds into corruption and nepotism, those fake leaders have no interest in developing industry or the economy as a whole because they are on a gravy train that is in place to keep African countries poor to access the resources at the lowest possible price.
Nobody can look at the situation in African countries without considering the wider economic and political reality & how African countries fit into the global economic system. Further to this the uncertainty & deprivation in African countries is a leading cause in the tribalism and tribal ideation.
In the past the Kingdom of Kongo featured a large & centralised kingdom with elected elites who were accountable to the people.
@@dugebuwembo ~ You might have cause & effect reversed in some cases. Consider the post-colonial literature (memoirs, e.g.) that express a preference for colonial governments such as in India and Nigeria. Why? Tribal conflicts were often violent, common people gained more and not less representation (e.g. they got paid for their labor), and the round table provided a means for making compromises and settling claims that weren't, again, violent. Tribal, ethnic, and religious conflicts often have a long history, one that precedes absorption into an empire. My nuanced perspective is that empire was in some cases preferable to eternal inter-ethnic fighting. By analogy, do we blame US foreign policy for the rise of fundamentalist or extremists groups that rush to fill the "vacuum" of devastation left in the wake of US departure? Do we credit imperial Japan for the strong sense of national identity experienced by Chinese, or do we consider, as I do, China's consistent ancient traditions and values? Maybe there's no vacuum, only age-old grievances that are not amenable to democratic processes, nor in all cases should they be. For that matter, anti-Semitism long predates the creation of the Jewish state in Palestine.
@@ShunyamNiketana Where is your evidence regarding tribal conflicts in Africa? Africa has always had multiethnic diverse empires, for example Ancient Nubia in Sudan, the Kingdoms in the Horn & the West African empires like Mali.
I don't think that Africans have been any more or less tribal than any other region in the world. Europeans are very tribal and European history has been defined by conflict, warring factions and vying powers right up into the modern era with WW1 and WW2.
The idea of that precolonial Africa has been subject to anymore conflict than other regions is a myth. The two world wars fought in Europe led to more than 70 million dead, genocide and ethnic cleansing, Europeans have been warring for millenia.
His point was bs. Correlation doesn't equal causation.
“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.” - Sun Tzu
Pretty smart for a hologram.
This guy is an idiot. Fascism has nothing to do with nationalism. It is state protected capitalism, the opposition to communism, capitalism owning the state. Nationalism can happen in a socialist country, communist or a standard capitalist country. It has nothing to do with nationalism.
Is it me or is his hologram glitching?
@@plastictouch6796 if he is an idiot, what are you?
@@plastictouch6796 Personal attacks are not protected by the freedom of speech.
"The crowd believes more easily a great lie than a little one"
- a failed painter
But it remained for the Jews, with their unqualified capacity for falsehood, and their fighting comrades, the Marxists, to impute responsibility for the downfall precisely to the man who alone had shown a superhuman will and energy in his effort to prevent the catastrophe which he had foreseen and to save the nation from that hour of complete overthrow and shame. By placing responsibility for the loss of the world war on the shoulders of Ludendorff they took away the weapon of moral right from the only adversary dangerous enough to be likely to succeed in bringing the betrayers of the Fatherland to Justice.
All this was inspired by the principle - which is quite true within itself - that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods.
It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying.
- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf
If attempting treason, go presidential !!!
You took that quote out of context nerd.
@@fredrikwiberg7365 explain yourself
@@konyvnyelv. Have you even read mein kampf or did you just take the quote from the internet? If you read the book it becomes clear that he uses that quote to describe the strategy of his enimies. Not that he says that the national socialists should lie to the people lol.
"dictatorship might come back" ... were they ever gone???
He means in the western hemisphere.
@@cleanwaternasenyiuganda8124 There have been plenty of dictatorships in the western hemisphere
@@cleanwaternasenyiuganda8124 Quite a few propped up dictators by the west in the west.
At least in the west, yes
@@aldoushuxley5953 I feel like the word is used to describe guys from the past in a absolute evil leader. Mao, Stalin, Saddam, Gaddafi, etc. But we call it monarchy in Saudi Arabia cuz we do business
I'm rather surprised that he kept this talk so neutral, and how he can be seen as essentially describing what is happening among Liberals as well as among Conservatives.
My mind has just been blown. I'm going to need to rewatch this video more than once. Whew.
Never underestimate human stupidity and human ingenuity,
Both will exceed your wildest imagination.
Yes, there he is talking as if Israel is not a apartheid regime
Like many I cannot believe that TED has had someone 'big-up' nationalism. Yuval has done the right thing here, not condem any one side, blame those who are actually to blame for this mess and ask people to come up with solutions for this problem.
Peace and love to all.
Democracy will become an emotional puppet show?
Uhmmm....where ya been bra? We're pretty deep into the puppet show stage of things.
Yup. And the capitalist control of the world itself is a form of proto-"friendly fascism"
Im very glad that we are asking these questions.
Criticizing fascism live from Tel Aviv 😬
I R O N Y.
Can you clarify the comment? I legitimately don't understand why criticizing it from Tel Aviv is any different than criticizing it from anywhere else
@@magicskyfairy69 says:
"Can you clarify the comment? I legitimately don't understand why...."
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www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Tel+Aviv+is+the+epicenter+of+the+fascism
BADASS
Stupedest comment ever
This video should be promoted worldwide. We should all understand this new challenge. Excellent as usual, Mr. Yuval.
Just over two years since this and YNH's warnings seem even more salutary. Towards the end he says that humanity has overcome major problems in the past and the ones faced in 2018 were "nothing". I think he has changed his mind.
"In times of crisis people are willing to take risk they wouldn't otherwise take" Bookended by the aphorism popularized by Rahm Emanual, "Never let a good crisis go to waste."
I maintain that people are not actually stupid, but distracted. And when distracted are easier to lead around by their emotions. There are, on the other hand, few more sobering, terrifying forces than the full attention of a nation's population.
I STUDY ENGLISH WITH THIS MAN BECAUSE HE IS AMAZING AND HAVE A EASY ENGLISH TO LISTEN
i think so
Yeah, he says powerful things in a simple way.
Human stupidity but also ignorance is the most dangerous thing we face today.
The more I hear this genius, the more I want to hear
As an engineering, I can state: decentralization is still better. The amount of AI necessary to create a dictatorship with the powers of a democracy would ensure a country is run by AI, not dictators.
Decentralisation from the point of view of the state is like going back to feudalism (called neofeudalism nowadays) and, therefore, weakening modern states to the point that they'll be easily beaten economically and militarily by any other strong, centralised state.
@@m.x. No. Decentralisation, done right, places the power of decision at the level equal to the compentency required to make it. For decentralisation done right, refer to the subsidiary principle. The real test for modern states is resisting the temptation to blow up the administration and amass perceived power which in the end leads to indecision and powerlessness. There is a tendency to inflate administration, where power is not delegated, but amassed at the top level. This needs to be resisted, as this is what leads to what we see in our own examples as the "weak west".
The AI is owned by the Oligarchs.
Never underestimate the power of a crowd of stupid people.
George Carlin
I was also thinking about Carlin while watching this video! I remembered the time Carlin said he doesn't vote because politicians are people stupid public selects into government and then complain about why the government sucks... My, GC really was well ahead of his time
The crowd: Murica'
Yes, but did he ever believe he was one of the stupid people? Or did he believe every word that came out of his mouth was pure gold?
This one. ♥️😁
@@allies7184 it's definitely not what this fella is talking. Globalization ain't gonna. Cut. It. 👏
He is not super accurate on the definition of fascism. There is more to it than the nationalism
But he specifically says there's more to it than nationalism in the video.
@Romulus Wow, all I did was question the original comment and you call me a flat earther? At least I know up front that you're not arguing in good faith. I didn't even claim that his definition of fascism was accurate, just that he does distinguish it from nationalism.
I agree. Fascism is very loosely defined, but I feel its defiantly more about opposing liberalism... instead of encouraging free choice society should be rigidly organized, etc. I feel like nationalism or socialism, though often associated with fascism, are not fascist themselves. In-fact, I would almost describe what he's talking about as liberalism.
He's comparing fascism and nationalism so of course he's going to talk more about nationalist side
@Romulus is an idiot
As an engineer I don’t agree that centralized computation is more efficient than distributed computation
HSandrw what field of engineering are you in?
He doesn't say that centralized computation is always more efficient. He says that because of technology we are likely to develop in the 21st century, governments may have enough central computing power to run a society
Electrical energy has to travel shorter distances, so yes, it is more efficient to have everything under the same roof.
@@davidgutierrez3312 Dictatorships have always been the most efficient forms of government. Whatever the dictator wants gets done. But if you are trying to do a good job, algorithmically it leads to spaghetti code and therefore extremely difficult to do a good job as the number of tasks increase. A decentralized system arrives at the solution algorithmically more efficiently, and therefore with less consumption of power, although slower. So I disagree with the speaker. He's probably another one of those people who think China does everything so good and therefore will take over.
He is simply asking engineers to find way where distributed computation is more efficient because if it is centralised than that would mean access is provided to very few hands leaving everything in their power which might have adverse impact
Nationalism going by his definition is tribalism with larger tribes. What Lennon wants is to get along across the entire world, not just within one nation.
few minutes in and already a not well-thought/justly considered/well-researched remark regarding a low sense of nationalism being directly proportional to Congo/Somalia's poverty and unrest has been made...
I don't know what to expect from this talk but already ethos and logos have hit rockbottom.
My thoughts exactly, I couldn't help losing interest after that
Same thoughts. Congo, Somalia, Afghanistan were fucked by Colonial and Imperialist powers. This guy is very overrated.
India, Indonesia, Vietnam etc. share colonial pasts as well. But they did not end up like those countries, and the difference is tribalism.
@@newbeginnings550 well hold on. Colonialism did by extent lower nationalism didnt it? I disagree that low nationalism cam destry a country on its own but colonialism, and the way it breals a country must lead inevitably to low nationalism right?
@@newbeginnings550 Maybe the f-ing of these countries by colonialism was facilitated by their low nationalism.
Fantastic talk. Unfortunately, in March 2022 it really does seem like we're facing a rerun of the late 1930s :-(
That's why I looked for talks like this as of Sept 2022 actually. Mussolini 2.0 elected in Italy, the Far-Right elected in Finland of all place, Liz Truss who is more far-right and cruel than Margaret Thatcher, Bolsanaro about to muck up elections in Brazil (they'll just claim they are fraudulent if he loses), Pierre Polievre who is a crazy far-right anti-science chief of Conversatives in Canada, women losing bodily autonomy in the US (Roe vs Wade overturn)... It's getting real scary!
The main threat from the left
@@CG_Hali u forgot INDIA But left ain't no better....i am indian and i support anything that govt wants to do
@@CG_Hali the fascism is coming from the people that attack at a massive scale journalism, education, health, identity etc that's coming from the top or at least democrats, not the far right -__-
@muskeptic sometimes Nah, January 6 proved that Fascism is always on the Right-wing.
Who is watching this talk after Indian 🇮🇳 MP ( member of parliament) Mahua Moitra’s fiery maiden talking about growing signs of fascism in India 🇮🇳 ???
In India all social problem such as unemployment,freedom of speech healthcare,social security etc. are sidelined and patriotism, nationalism,religious bigotry, hate speech are made the major issues to get power.
The fact that India has been a democracy for 70 years is incredible though. But I agree that unfortunately politicians everywhere use hate to get elected.
I like it because the uniforms are so slimming.
ALAPINO same bro, same
You seem to be the only commenter here with a sense of humour...
Only the Nazi's had a fashion designer; Hugo Boss, for their uniforms. They looked fucking awesome from a design perspective! If you look at the Italian fascists they wore brown shirts and a shoulderstrap.. Not that slimming.. and damn ugly when it comes to the fashion of the time.
If you want to look thin you should try communism though! The ism that successfully starves people to the brink of death.. Very slimming..
The people who got the reference didn't need that, but I'm sure someone who has no idea what 'we' are talking about will gleam a little from your comment. :D
Fascism + Carbs = Italians.
Communism is great for that pesky last 3% body fat... and proper metabolic function, for that matter. ;D
ALAPINO Yeah i'm sorry i spilled the beans on fasci..fashion.. It's just an interesting story that people might gleam a little bit of wisdom from and hopefully we can combat the obesity epidemic in the west by promoting the kim jong un grass diet! it's a simple diet.. you only eat grass for a year or so and your belly fat will be all gone! after that we can remove excess skin tissue by strapping a car battery to your abdomen.. literally burning that extra weight right off.
The message is SO important, there is no translated captions available in Hindi, or any Indian language. Can that Please be added?
Videos like these should be shown to students in schools, that will be true education. Also, TED should have a separate account for sensible videos like this because it is coming up with more crap and it's getting hard to find these videos among all of them.
He thinks the definition of nationalism is patriotism. Your kids will grow up dumb and susceptible to fascism. Not a good idea.
@@VADER677 did you watch the whole video? You’re missing the context.
@@kmstop ok then,, Whats the difference between patriotism and nationalism? If your an American you should be able to awnser this question.
I’m watching this for school :) my teachers awesome
@@amandafolsom8271 Aw that's so cool. Convey them that if possible 😄
Wish he had been given more time to explain about corporations being the real governments. What he probably means is that big corporations make all the decisions through financing and influencing (lobbying) our 'democratic' governments, and therefore their interests are the real concern of those elected, not the People.
Calling from November 2020. Thanks for the warning. Wish we'd gotten it sooner and heard all the warnings engineers were giving, and paid attention to all the warnings economists and international studies professors were giving us 20 years ago, around 9/11/01.
... China is now facist.
@@1mol831 how is that relevant?
DAMN. So Many Moments of truth!
From Tel Aviv eh? Classic! EVERY SINGLE TIME
It is in the nature of true and absolute power to rule behind invisibility,inscrutability,and to perpetually obscure and obfuscate the network of its command and control.
“Sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace”, Bob Dylan.
Says the one who was addicted to heroin to feel peace.
So fascism is angelic now? No wonder crusader came to existing
People throw the word around loosely today and there are very few survivors of real fascism left to remind of us that our world is a much better place and we take it too much for granted.
Sua palestra converge com a realidade hoje... No Brasil, os dois dedos que você alertou aconteceram :(
What happened? Can you explain?
This was phenomenally on point. I would add one amendment to this. The information revolution has both opened up new avenues for small undemocratic elites to manipulate the masses, but it has also opened up new avenues in the other direction towards more efficient distributed information processing. Capitalism and representative democracy involve less centralized power than fascism but still a great deal of centralized power none the less. We have much more room to explore in the decentralized direction. Technology does not seem to have a preference for authority or liberty. Technology is widening the window of possibility, those of us who care about democracy must learn rapidly to use emergent technology to construct decentralized democratic cooperative networks as an alternative vision of humanity to contend with the trifecta of corporate centralization, State centralization, and populist cults of personality.
*"Never underestimate the power of human stupidity."*
That's a great lecture. It seems to me he is making the point that the biggest risk for the future is that authoritarian governments and forms of power, like companies, will become more efficient in comparison to democratic forms of decision making. If that happens, then we will be in a difficult place, because it being more efficient doesn't make its decisions better for the people necessarily.
Very interesting talk. But I would like to point out one thing. Nationalism is certainly better than Fascism but it itself isn't a good thing. That's why many philosophers like Rabindranath Tagore, Kant, Gandhi supported the idea of internationalism. Nationalism indeed works but it also polarizes the world. Nationalism is not always a good thing. ( Harari talked about Japan and Japan is truly an amazing country but it also has one of the highest suicide rates. In many ways, it's still a very patriarchal society. The happiness of the people in a country doesn't entirely depend on how good the economy is ).But if we treat a world as one big community, it reduces the chances of war and other human catastrophes. We learn to acknowledge each other's differences and yet we treat each other as people belonging to one single community. This certainly sounds like a utopian vision but it's feasible, given how the internet connects all of us
This exactly what happening in India right now.
Yup. India and Hungary are time machines into the future for what happens when politics of hate and unchecked power are allowed to fester.
Does anyone know a good documentary on this?
Not at all. You ELECTED such governments due to Hindu tribalism.
Your people need nationalism to bring all together more than ever.
Highly disagreeing. India is strengthening nationalism rather than becoming a fascist country. As far as I know, media is free and the government is not claiming to be our savior. It's rather trying to be as democratic and decentralised it can be.
@@archanarani1609 That is false.
The government is subtly pushing the narrative that India has a dangerous enemy within it - Muslims and leftists - just like the Nazis did.
A lot of people today believe that Indian Muslims want to destroy India and the government repeatedly fuels this.
(Remember how the PM said 'Shaheen bagh is an experiment'? )
Most media houses fuel this dangerous notion, in combination with limitless adulation for the leaders.
The state regularly conducts witch-hunts for the less high profile leaders of dissenting groups by misusing laws like sedition and UAPA. The media and social media campaigns enable this by painting false narratives about them being dangerous (eg: Sharjeel imam, Anand Teltumbde, etc). And all the while ruling party members and sometimes even the highest government officials get away with hate speech, that sometimes allude to genocide.
The press freedom index has plummeted since 2014.
The ruling party has been conflating Hindutva with nationalism for years, to the extent that it's impossible to see where one begins and the other ends.
This is another trait of fascism that Yuval has not addressed. It's that with enough control over the sources of information, people can be kept in a perpetual state of delusion where they deny what they are seeing with their own eyes.
I share your definition of what is the core of fascism, but I feel like a minority when I explain it. Your video helps me have more confidence in my definition. The way I boil it down: when some folks lose core rights and privileges, because they are deemed undeserving or because they are not considered in line with the nation, we are slipping into fascism. Often, it begins with the most downtrodden, like homeless people who get treated in ways that would be considered a grave human rights violation if done to another citizen. Then if moves up to declaring that folks of this or that religion or ideology are not equal citizens and should have less rights, etc.
Ps : note how it has nothing to do with communist, socialist or capitalist discourse. Any regime or nation, whether it claims to be communist, socialist, capitalist, etc. can slip into fascism.
Omg a recent TED talk that is actually good and has "ideas worth spreading"!!!!
Enlightening!
You're wrong. Nationalism is unquestioning, my country right or wrong, above all others, no criticism. Patriots criticize to improve their country. Nationalism is the stepping stone to Fascism.
Yes, completely agree, well said!
Jim Vasconcellos you’re confuse.
What nonsense. In that case never support your national soccer team in any event again, ok?
Those who apply the patriot term in my experience are also on that nationalist/fascist spectrum. Citizen works.
I identify as a nationalist. I will still criticise my country if I think we are doing something wrong.
I feel like he's speaking in future possibilities and what he's describing is exactly how the American election of 2016 went so terribly wrong.
I don't use social media sites like FB, twitter, etc and during the 2016 election I witnessed from the outside just how powerfully those sites were being used to manipulate the feelings and opinions of the people around me.
Don't get me wrong, news stations focused on ratings over facts-absolutely bear some of the responsibility too but there was a drastic difference in those around me that seemed to be: more time on social medias = far more likely to have very strong feelings based on inaccurate information.
India is going from the same
Trump won cause the people is tired of media opinion dictatorship. Clinton wasnt a good person.
If humans are so weak and gullible, do we really deserve to survive?
@@danilotroncoso9170 There is no opinion dictatorship other than the spreading of american imperialism, patriarchal relationships, and racism. The right wing LITERALLY dominate the government
@@smoketrash6807 Bullshit since "patriarcal".Why do you think Trump won? cause everyone are blind except you?people are tired of people like you, shouting "hate speech" every minute.
The larger the Database, the more powerful the net of Servers
The more Freedom depends Upon breaching these bastions
Giving such concentrated data free to all the World
Even to your Enemies
For Secrecy serves but sinister ends
Eye opener video. 👍
This is outstanding!
I only realized it was a hologram in the end, i thought the video quality was just low hahah
In a decade or two we are going to watch this video and be surprised on how we ever thought this was real.
Democracy based on feelings, we have to think beyond the feelings?
We're boned! Most people cannot do this, or at least never do it.
***
Wow! I never knew that distributed data processing was so important!
Auuuuuuuuuu ?????? what a wrong and unprofessional explanation of the notions of fascism. No wonder people in the west are uneducated!
Fascism originated in Italy in 1923 (and the fear of Communism and the victory of the Bolsheviks in the Russian Civil War that arose after the October Revolution of 1917-1922) and lasted until 1943. Fascism means a sheaf of tied grain and it is impossible to break. In the ideological sense, it is a strong link between the corporation and the state. The full splendor of fascism is established when the corporation runs the state because its money gives unbreakable strength to the state because it strengthens the corporation. Italy was fascist and did not have the Holocaust. This uneducated historian mixes Fascism with Nazism. Nazism originated in Germany and as a National Socialist party, where a pure nation is the ideal of supremacy over everything else. (Karl Marx considered the Slavs a lower race, garbage that needs to be cleaned - his texts in newspapers from the end of the 19th century). The ideology of race is based on the popular and universally accepted teachings of the American Margaret Sanger and her organization Birth Control. Her teaching was to control the birth of people whose development is at a lower level, and according to her, it included black people who were freed from slavery to work cheaply in the industrial revolution produced by the invention of the Steam Engine. After her lectures, Aboriginal people were killed in Australia, and black women were sterilized in the USA until 1970. And under her influence, Hitler killed his German mentally ill and handicapped ... At that time, it was hysteria like today for Ukraine and Russia. upon Completion WWII Birt control changes its name to Planed Parent Hood where Bill Gates' father held a high position. After the end of the Russian Civil War in 1922, which broke out after the October Revolution of 1917, where the Bolsheviks defeated the White Guards who supported Tsarist Russia because the Romanov royal family was massacred along with the dog, there was a general fear of spreading Communism to the rest of Europe. The perpetrators of the October Revolution were mostly Jews from Russia and other countries. Tsarist Russia was home to the largest Jewish community in the world, around 5,000,000, who were dissatisfied with their position in Tsarist Russia, which was then the largest growing economy in Europe. Even today, some countries have elements of Fascism. For example, when a corporation deletes the messages on Twitter of a democratically elected president with which he wants to address his citizens, and no court punishes that. and then he brings a man with Alzhamer to the position of president and the question of who moves his finger on the nuclear button because a man in such a state can easily get confused. This kind of hatred towards Russians today was the same towards Jews before WWII-
I don't know if there is a word in English. in language, the word chauvinism means to hate another nation. A man who loves only his nation and hates some others is a chauvinist.
Thank you for giving me a fresh idea.
Corporations, or those with the resources to control the data, that are against everyone’s interests, will be able to convince the majority that those corporations, or individuals, are an angelic force for good.
Canada does not have a strong sense of nationalism. Despite that it is a very nice place and community for all, relatively high in the Health index scale
Adil Zia not for long if it stays the course of electing quacks like Trudeau.
It won't stay that way. Of all the countries in the world, Canada has the fastest rate of ethnic change. And with ethnic change comes cultural change.
Neither do Sweden.
Canada is one of the most Nationalistic countries in the west. Every product has the symbol from the flag, every Canadian travler would have a maple 🍁 leaf on his cloth and bags, one of the only national anthems i know is the Canadian one and I’ve been there 3 times. Canadians are obsessed with statistics about how good they are compare to other countries, (like health indexes and so on)... be truthful mate
Matan: How about not spewing hyperbolic bullshit, mate.
I would say there is something more fundamental than Facism ... as that is restricted to only one kind of institution, the nation-state. At 15:00, the interviewer correctly points this out.
More fundamentally, authoritarianism is the simplification and reduction of identity to any single institution ... a particular religion, corporate culture, or nation state. (See Herman and Chomsky on 'Manufacturing Consent' as ways of the dysfunctional concentrating power).
At least nation-states can endulge in the conceit of democratic ideals. Corporations do not even bother with that, 'too big to fail' banks or GAFA (Google, Amazon, Facebook, Apple) being good examples.
Having lived in Japan for over 36 years now, authoritarianism masquerading as a meritocracy, appears to the ground from which so many social problems arise.
I think the speech shows many good insights, but could be improved by bringing in other triangulations such as the differences in morality between small communities, the roots of morality as explored by primatology (Frans de Waal), and large populations (Robin Dunbar), the ruling elite and those just getting by, the altruists and the dark-triad personality types.
Scary times ahead, with three voices weighing in, pointed to at 18:00 of the above video.
1 - Chomsky's opening remarks at his 2011 Chapel Hill speech ... th-cam.com/video/UZbW7lvGkuA/w-d-xo.html
2 - Stephen Hawking on Stupidity and Greed as our downfall ... mavenroundtable.io/theintellectualist/news/video-stephen-hawking-greed-and-stupidity-are-what-will-end-the-human-race-ayunr2tOL0Sf4HVLW7eSAA/?SP&SP&SP&SP&SP&fbclid=IwAR2KomxhTDU0zxaWWxD65q5B7vpifUKo5Ms7QydD4WLbDgIiLJYuPXYgtVo
3 - J. Robert Openheimer, upon observing the father of the atomic bomb ... th-cam.com/video/lb13ynu3Iac/w-d-xo.html
Indeed ... scary times ahead.
Most underrated Ted.
Thank you.
A "like" from Hungary. This speech explains well the difference between nationalism and fascism. If "nation" is at the top of your order of values, then you got the fascism virus.
Auuuuuuuuuu ?????? what a wrong and unprofessional explanation of the notions of fascism. No wonder people in the west are uneducated!
Fascism originated in Italy in 1923 (and the fear of Communism and the victory of the Bolsheviks in the Russian Civil War that arose after the October Revolution of 1917-1922) and lasted until 1943. Fascism means a sheaf of tied grain and it is impossible to break. In the ideological sense, it is a strong link between the corporation and the state. The full splendor of fascism is established when the corporation runs the state because its money gives unbreakable strength to the state because it strengthens the corporation. Italy was fascist and did not have the Holocaust. This uneducated historian mixes Fascism with Nazism. Nazism originated in Germany and as a National Socialist party, where a pure nation is the ideal of supremacy over everything else. (Karl Marx considered the Slavs a lower race, garbage that needs to be cleaned - his texts in newspapers from the end of the 19th century). The ideology of race is based on the popular and universally accepted teachings of the American Margaret Sanger and her organization Birth Control. Her teaching was to control the birth of people whose development is at a lower level, and according to her, it included black people who were freed from slavery to work cheaply in the industrial revolution produced by the invention of the Steam Engine. After her lectures, Aboriginal people were killed in Australia, and black women were sterilized in the USA until 1970. And under her influence, Hitler killed his German mentally ill and handicapped ... At that time, it was hysteria like today for Ukraine and Russia. upon Completion WWII Birt control changes its name to Planed Parent Hood where Bill Gates' father held a high position. After the end of the Russian Civil War in 1922, which broke out after the October Revolution of 1917, where the Bolsheviks defeated the White Guards who supported Tsarist Russia because the Romanov royal family was massacred along with the dog, there was a general fear of spreading Communism to the rest of Europe. The perpetrators of the October Revolution were mostly Jews from Russia and other countries. Tsarist Russia was home to the largest Jewish community in the world, around 5,000,000, who were dissatisfied with their position in Tsarist Russia, which was then the largest growing economy in Europe. Even today, some countries have elements of Fascism. For example, when a corporation deletes the messages on Twitter of a democratically elected president with which he wants to address his citizens, and no court punishes that. and then he brings a man with Alzhamer to the position of president and the question of who moves his finger on the nuclear button because a man in such a state can easily get confused. This kind of hatred towards Russians today was the same towards Jews before WWII-
I don't know if there is a word in English. in language, the word chauvinism means to hate another nation. A man who loves only his nation and hates some others is a chauvinist. Patriotism (patrio = father) loves place of birth, culture, language, custom .
personal biases...so many in this talk.
Biases aren't necessarily bad...however in this context its giving us a glimpse into what Yuval's version of truth is rather than the multi-dimensionality of it all...and that is misinformation
Misinformation can never be good for anyone.
Bravo! You exposed yourself as a proponent of fascism.
No matter where you go, there you are - Fromm researched and wrote all about this in the 60’s.
Talk about spot on with what is going and has been going on right now.
He is one of the reasons why.
@@LordsofMedia some people don’t want to control anything and actually believe humans should wake up and shift.
He is telling people to do just that.
Will they? Nope they will ignore him, call him names, and more-hence why he says stupidity. Is he on the side of dark energy?
It doesn’t matter what he does, he is speaking the absolute truth.
Your feelings are not changing that and if if you don’t change, can’t blame him. He warned you. 😘
@@vintagevibes1974 lay off the wine
This was one of the most truthful Ted Talk I have ever seen. Its futuristic realistic and informative at the same time which is awesome.
He's so right. We must not underestimate human stupidity. It has been responsible for some of the worst events in history.
amazing talk
Nationalism and fascism go hand in hand. Patriotism however, is the positive aspect; being proud of the good things your country stands for, while guarding against threats to that positive identity. As a Canadian patriot, I am proud to be part of a multi-national identity. Nationalism is a red flag; it's the precursor of fascism.
First half has lots of contradictions and incoherences as other have mentioned, but second half is when he really talks about the how fascists benefit from massive data gathering and what he describes in general terms is how the US people were radicalized by Cambridge Analytica though not mentioned by name.
Now they are daily radicalized into fascism thru social media
But it took him until the end to get off the control of data by governments and get to the real threat: the control of information by uncontrolled private enterprise and media.
Auuuuuuuuuu ?????? what a wrong and unprofessional explanation of the notions of fascism. No wonder people in the west are uneducated!
Fascism originated in Italy in 1923 (and the fear of Communism and the victory of the Bolsheviks in the Russian Civil War that arose after the October Revolution of 1917-1922) and lasted until 1943. Fascism means a sheaf of tied grain and it is impossible to break. In the ideological sense, it is a strong link between the corporation and the state. The full splendor of fascism is established when the corporation runs the state because its money gives unbreakable strength to the state because it strengthens the corporation. Italy was fascist and did not have the Holocaust. This uneducated historian mixes Fascism with Nazism. Nazism originated in Germany and as a National Socialist party, where a pure nation is the ideal of supremacy over everything else. (Karl Marx considered the Slavs a lower race, garbage that needs to be cleaned - his texts in newspapers from the end of the 19th century). The ideology of race is based on the popular and universally accepted teachings of the American Margaret Sanger and her organization Birth Control. Her teaching was to control the birth of people whose development is at a lower level, and according to her, it included black people who were freed from slavery to work cheaply in the industrial revolution produced by the invention of the Steam Engine. After her lectures, Aboriginal people were killed in Australia, and black women were sterilized in the USA until 1970. And under her influence, Hitler killed his German mentally ill and handicapped ... At that time, it was hysteria like today for Ukraine and Russia. upon Completion WWII Birt control changes its name to Planed Parent Hood where Bill Gates' father held a high position. After the end of the Russian Civil War in 1922, which broke out after the October Revolution of 1917, where the Bolsheviks defeated the White Guards who supported Tsarist Russia because the Romanov royal family was massacred along with the dog, there was a general fear of spreading Communism to the rest of Europe. The perpetrators of the October Revolution were mostly Jews from Russia and other countries. Tsarist Russia was home to the largest Jewish community in the world, around 5,000,000, who were dissatisfied with their position in Tsarist Russia, which was then the largest growing economy in Europe. Even today, some countries have elements of Fascism. For example, when a corporation deletes the messages on Twitter of a democratically elected president with which he wants to address his citizens, and no court punishes that. and then he brings a man with Alzhamer to the position of president and the question of who moves his finger on the nuclear button because a man in such a state can easily get confused. This kind of hatred towards Russians today was the same towards Jews before WWII-
I don't know if there is a word in English. in language, the word chauvinism means to hate another nation. A man who loves only his nation and hates some others is a chauvinist.
I wonder how he must have felt inside when interviewed by Zuckerberg.
They're besties. How do you think he felt? 🧐
Brilliant lecture, Professor Harari.
I don't think technology will hack our feelings... My freedom is intrinsic to my personality. No person nor regime can hack it. Though, ignorance, lacking discernment and critical thinking, will surely allow any regime to hack their feeling, their freedom and their humanity.
By the way, what democratic regimes are missing is to educate their people to citizenship.
Auuuuuuuuuu ?????? what a wrong and unprofessional explanation of the notions of fascism. No wonder people in the west are uneducated!
Fascism originated in Italy in 1923 (and the fear of Communism and the victory of the Bolsheviks in the Russian Civil War that arose after the October Revolution of 1917-1922) and lasted until 1943. Fascism means a sheaf of tied grain and it is impossible to break. In the ideological sense, it is a strong link between the corporation and the state. The full splendor of fascism is established when the corporation runs the state because its money gives unbreakable strength to the state because it strengthens the corporation. Italy was fascist and did not have the Holocaust. This uneducated historian mixes Fascism with Nazism. Nazism originated in Germany and as a National Socialist party, where a pure nation is the ideal of supremacy over everything else. (Karl Marx considered the Slavs a lower race, garbage that needs to be cleaned - his texts in newspapers from the end of the 19th century). The ideology of race is based on the popular and universally accepted teachings of the American Margaret Sanger and her organization Birth Control. Her teaching was to control the birth of people whose development is at a lower level, and according to her, it included black people who were freed from slavery to work cheaply in the industrial revolution produced by the invention of the Steam Engine. After her lectures, Aboriginal people were killed in Australia, and black women were sterilized in the USA until 1970. And under her influence, Hitler killed his German mentally ill and handicapped ... At that time, it was hysteria like today for Ukraine and Russia. upon Completion WWII Birt control changes its name to Planed Parent Hood where Bill Gates' father held a high position. After the end of the Russian Civil War in 1922, which broke out after the October Revolution of 1917, where the Bolsheviks defeated the White Guards who supported Tsarist Russia because the Romanov royal family was massacred along with the dog, there was a general fear of spreading Communism to the rest of Europe. The perpetrators of the October Revolution were mostly Jews from Russia and other countries. Tsarist Russia was home to the largest Jewish community in the world, around 5,000,000, who were dissatisfied with their position in Tsarist Russia, which was then the largest growing economy in Europe. Even today, some countries have elements of Fascism. For example, when a corporation deletes the messages on Twitter of a democratically elected president with which he wants to address his citizens, and no court punishes that. and then he brings a man with Alzhamer to the position of president and the question of who moves his finger on the nuclear button because a man in such a state can easily get confused. This kind of hatred towards Russians today was the same towards Jews before WWII-
I don't know if there is a word in English. in language, the word chauvinism means to hate another nation. A man who loves only his nation and hates some others is a chauvinist. Patriotism (patrio = father) loves place of birth, culture, language, custom .
It is not fascism when Yuval Noah Harari does it
Very very significant lecture by Yuval Noah Harari
My personal situation may be odd but I mention it because it might be prescient. With pandemic lockdown, I have watched a lot of TH-cam. I joke that their algorithm knows me better than I know myself. This is a good thing because I am truly learning my strengths and weaknesses. As a girl, I had to be a people pleaser to survive. Being me was dangerous. What TH-cam reveals seems to come at a pace I can handle. I'm sure it has to do with my choices. It does scare me some. Like Nazis and thought police, Big Brother could easily find me thru internet. I am not sheep. Like Cassandra, no one listens to me either.
I hear you.
Simply wow
Professing themselves wise they became fools! Fits this yuval kavari guy perfectly. For the Lord's words are absolutely perfect!
I have a doubt : If i can determine an fascist ideology just by the number of identitys it allows me to have and be loyal to, then how would fascism be diferent then many other ideologys ?
Explanation : Every ideology has a quantity of rules and or definitions.if someone or something do something contrary to my ideology, this person /thing is actualy beeing contrary to one or more idelogy rules/definitions. If none of the rules/definitions was threatened, then its not against my ideology. And as those rules/definitions cover only a small part of reality, (it cant describe everithing ! ), i will necessarily have many open topics that dosent threatens the ideology. So, in every fascist ideology i will find many oportunitys to express myself, an identity, whitout harm to my ideology. In other words, i will have many identitys in any fascist ideology. And get worse when i think that every ideology naturally prevents me to cause harm to its rules, simply because i have proud of be part of the ideology. Even if one of the rules are something like 'Dont have sure of anything', i'll still try to defend my proud, and then the ideology. Even in a simple discussion i'll tend to defend my previous statements.
Conclusion : So, every ideology allows me to have many identitys, even when reducing greatly the number of identitys i can have. And every identity indirectly or directly prevents me to accept any harm to its rules.
i dont want to desagree with Yuval, of course, but i really can't see it diferently. Help ?
Other ideologies would require allegence to something other than "only the interest of the nation".
Midway through the talk, I ended up wondering - if you blur the lines between patriotism, nationalism, and fascism so much and make them so broad, then everytime something or someone is claimed to be fascist, will I and should I take them seriously. And if the definition is so broad, is it even something to worry about then; because this can lead to a nationalist being seen as 'potential fascist' and thus him/her facing the scrutiny by so called 'anti-fascist'.
If one worries about a leader to become potential oppressors because he/she supports national identity higher than others, cant a leader be a potential oppressor simply because (s)he supports more non libertarian regulations / extreme socialistic policies.
Should I in that case just worry about this overhyped, broad (in terms of nationalism) and narrow (in terms of kinds of oppression) definition of fascism or are there more similar ideologies which can cause similar rise to oppressive regimes (oppression on groups with differing moral/ideological compass etc) which are not being catered to by this defination of fascism?
Then this concern against (broad yet narrow) 'fascism' can also be used to either villainies not so fascistic nationalism or/and simply promote other ideology slyly.
The part with data makes sense, but when I see protests against say a first basic steps by govt, which should improve efficiency using digitisation/centralisation, just coz it could lead to second then third then fourth step which would be giving to much control to govt and is potential fascistic, it feels like the concerns are being stretched too far. This makes me feel like maybe fascism is not a problem if they cry wolf so broadly for any and every nationalist move.
Just trying to put an alternative pov on how someone can perceive the current wave of so called fascism and the 'anti-fa' protests against them.
Maybe it's just a dog whistle problem, people saying something but perceivers hearing something else due to different definations in their mind..
Very insightful.
I am a big believer in slowing down your brain. The reason is that when we slow our minds, we can be much more consciously aware of what we are doing instead of just reacting, which uses our automatic/subconscious/programs instead of asking us to rationalize our thoughts.
Everyone is talking about what the terms he used really meant this or that, but the ones who can see the bigger picture of his topics....all the evils of history will be nothing compared to the technological evil of the future. And we will not even know because it would be too beautiful of an evil.
eojgnoix what is the use of a bigger picture if a TED speaker can't honestly get their facts straight?
So what exactly is the format of this big picture? Skewed?
Should we strain and sift through the bs to see it?
Selling fear, hate and vanity predates Silicon Valley by well over 100 years.
brave new world, mate
Hate(and also drive to militarism) is a by-product of (wealth)inequality.
People get angry but they don't know who to blame. Not surprisingly it usually starts from uneducated working class.
Look into the history, there's a strong pattern in relation between the growing poverty and hate.
Object of the hate is not that important, another race, immigrant another religion, anything that stands out from the majority of population. You can find it in any country, any culture, any period in time.
Important part is to hide the real problem.
Only thing it needs to get the ball rolling is a leader that encourages it.
People who create the inequality are very eager to turn the people's attention elsewhere.
Thanks for sharing.
Respect,
From brasil 🇧🇷
I am Italian. I am simply astonished by the description that he has done of democracy.
This video is a very detailed summary of the most recent italian politics, especially when he explain how politician could use data in order to create hate. In Italy is happening exactly what he said: "fascism is evil, I am not evil after all so i am not fascist". This is what the most of the people say. Our minister Matteo Salvini has focalised the attention of the entire nation on migration. As a consequence, refugees are basically seen as the major cause of all our problems. I often hear people saying "Italy is no longer italian. Italian first". Italian first is the slogan of Salvini. During tv shows and other debate, Salvini use to correlate facts totally random, and use many simbols of force, like wearing police uniform. In other situation Salvini has kissed rosary in public. In summary, he want angry people to vot him
Sorry for bad english
Anger and fear are the base of the fascism, like all right wing ideologies.
You don't have fascism in a society where there is hope.
Have you watched this on TH-cam?
"The 10 tactics of fascism | Jason Stanley | Big Think"
I think this video explains it very well.
Yes - Italy for sure has this going on as well as the United States and many other countries.
Great video. I thought the TED I grew up with was gone for good. More like this!
Я попробую привести другой пример. В психологии есть понятие нарциссизма и психопатии. И если вы ознакомитесь какими методами пользуются эти люди в межличностных отношениях, то вы найдете поразительное сходство с... фашизмом.
А что если я скажу, что у каждого народа и у каждой нации есть свой психологический портрет?
@10:10 Wow!
Beautiful speech
Don't let yourself be manipulated with appeals to built in flattery, fear, and hate feeling's weaknesses.
The only TED talk I need is 2070 Paradigm Shift
20 yrs past the end of us
Can someone plz explain how does this hologram work?
Million thanks
I feel like this missed the mark on too many levels, but there were some good points there
No mention of history, of Italian fascism growing as a civilian reaction to communist violence when the state did nothing to protect private property. An abberation to be sure, but these people who think evil is "the other guy" will never understand it, it's just rationalising.
More Peoples should watch this video
People are still divided into left and right unfortunately 😞
Awakend, not even. This guy preaches nationalism, which is antithetical to communism.
We lost it in Brazil
10:10
You know what's frithing about that? Somehow, i myself faced this phenomenol right here, in this plataform....
Not just "Nation" but any idea dictated to us and its excluded from our "thoughts" , and our own understanding the real truth , as Hanna Ardent said , thoughtlessness , is the origin of Fascism . History around the world shows this fact well.
" You should never underestimate human stupidity "
And stupidity was never more evident than on Jan 6th from traitor Trump and his lost followers.
Yuval Noah Harrari is the best👌🏻
Listening this talk I'm thinking about Italy now.
Interest of one man becomes the interest of the nation.