It is so nice to hear Vader and Sidious say Revan's name. Always liked when movie characters referenced EU characters in the books and comics and whatnot back in the old, good EU. Made the Star Wars universe feel more connected between the different media and different eras.
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Sidious is afraid of Revan and Kreia, because these two are a deviation from the norm they were the embodiment of the Force and the perfect balance between light and darkness.
@@BuriedAlien-TRN242 Power doesn't count for much if you haven't the wisdom to know when to take a threat seriously. After all, was Sidious not defeated by his weaker apprentice? Sidious may have been the most powerful Sith, though even if Lucas claims that I still have my doubts 'cause goodness knows that man couldn't even keep track of his own lore... But Sidious was likewise a deeply flawed sith and I'd argue a complete and utter coward. It's all deception and manipulation with him, or striking at those decidedly weaker than himself, only fighting or making more overt displays of power when he has no other choice. Hell, Sidious is so afraid of being over-thrown that he went out of his way to dispose of useful dark-siders just because he was afraid they'd grow to powerful, handicapped Vader, and cracks down HARD on anyone with thoughts or ambitions of deposing of him. That's not the mark of a powerful sith, but that of a weak and craven coward. A far cry from what the "Rule of Two" sith are supposed to be.
@@BuriedAlien-TRN242 *Wacks with rolled up Newspaper* Bad! Palpatine isn't Frieza in a bathrobe! 1. Palpatine is an old man at this point. Unless he jumps into a clone body before the fight, all he can really do by the OT era is force lightning. Any KOTOR-era character worth their salt isn't going down to just that. 2. "The most powerful Sith in history" was a statement made before any of the EU stuff that *REALLY* power crept the setting was made. Even if it was, Lucas actively ignored and discounted EU material. To paraphrase Lucas, it has to be treated as a separate universe - meaning that authorial statements didn't apply to characters he didn't make by his own logic. 3. Even if we disregard above logic - being more powerful doesn't mean he can't lose to someone weaker than him. Palpatine canonically died by being tossed down a reactor shaft by a cripple in a suit that deliberately gimped him versus his main offensive ability for crying out loud. 4. "BUT IT SAYS IN X COMIC, PANEL Y" Bruh, those comics people like you love referencing are there purely to sell merch and tell wildly different stories that don't coincide with the main source material. Referencing Star Wars comic books as your source is like referencing a fan made continuation of a film or TV show made on Tik-Tok.
I really am confused by this rule . There’s only two active sith at any given time but why have inquisitors ? Like I understood palpatine went for maul and explained there can only be two, so why have dooku even train savage or asajj . They wasn’t sith ?
@@garlicbread7129 инквизиторы были просто охотниками за джедаями. инквизиторы бывшие джедаи. а саважа и ассаж лишили титулов ситхов. так же и мол. дуку тренировал саважа потому что он считал, что на него покушались "джедаи". ассаж простой охотник, убийца. она не ситх. мол брат саважа обучал саважа темной стороне, тем самым нарушив правило двух. палпатин убил саважа, а молу он сказал, что он больше не ситх. надеюсь я тебе всё объяснил
@@garlicbread7129 The reason is quite simple In the ancient time, the sith killed eachother faster than the jedi. Due to their view, greed and lust of power However, many weaker apprentices can over throw a powerful master. Making the sith weaker and diluted Thus not to go extinct the rule was made. Only one master and one apprentice. No more no less Having two apprentices will results in a weaker outcome By having the rule of 2. The apprentice will seek greater power from the master. Till the master out lives their purpose and the cycle continues Thus the sith managed to live longer, the jedi though they were gone leading to the prequel trilogy
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Palpatine in his hubris disregards Revan's return, such folly. For he is Revan, and before him Palpatine is nothing. Once again, great work. Hope to see Bastilla and Joliee Bindo,
@@newhybrid101 I have to disagree. You need to take into account that Revan is from a time when Jedi were more often than not very active in battle. This led to the Jedi of the KOTOR/KOTOR II and SWTOR eras to have vast amounts of experience in combat, as well as usage of their skills and abilities. On the other hand, except for the Clone Wars, and the last battle with the Sith Empire a thousand years prior, the Jedi had no viable combat experience beyond sparring during training, or the occasional fight with some criminal groups. This also applies to the Sith after Darth Bane's establishment of the Rule of Two. Because the Sith operated from the shadows afterwards, they didn't really get involved in battle. Sidious was powerful, don't get me wrong, but he spent most of his time manipulating events from the shadows, or wrapped up in one of his rituals. He was like the Jedi, and you can see this in his fight with Mace Windu, where Mace Windu fought him on equal terms, and nearly won if it hadn't been for Anakin/Vader's interference. In the end, based on all the facts seen, I believe Revan would have a relatively easy time dealing with Sidious, the same with Kreia. Vader would likely put up somewhat of a fight, but in the end, I feel that he would fall to Revan and Kreia even if he fought one on one.
@@fenrirgaming37 Sidious was seen as one of the most powerful Sith because of his ability to use the force. If you go by Legends, Sidious was well accomplished enslaving planets and sapping the residents’ life to extend his own and disintegrating starships with his lightning. In the Clone Wars, he easily defeated Savage, who was enhanced with Nightsister magic, and Maul, who lived his entire life as a combatant. Sidious lost to Windu because Windu was a master of Vaapad, which uses the opponents rage against them and scales to the dark side user. Vader, much like Sion, refuses to die. His suit’s kill switch was activated before Return of the Jedi, and he keeps himself alive using the force. He is also seen in a canon comic, using force storm and is not seen to be hindered from the loss of his limbs. While Sith and Jedi did take more combative roles in the Old Republic timeframe, most were very weak which is how troopers were able to face Jedi and Sith. Any Jedi or Sith remotely near Sidious or Vader would seem extraordinary for the time.
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Palpatine fears what he cannot control. The powers jedi and sith had in the past were far greater than he could possibly imagine. By his time almost all ancient knowledge was already lost to the ages.
Darth Revan and Darth Malak vs Darth Sidious and Darth Vader, that would be an epic fight! The Sith who inspired The Rule of Two vs The Sith who culminate The Rule of Two.
@@BuriedAlien-TRN242 Do we though? After all... His arrogance IS his greatest weakness. With the exception of Mace Windu, Yoda, and maybe Mother Talzin, Sidious has never really fought anyone of significant power or skill... Just his wayward former-apprentice Maul, Savage, and a handful of mid jedi-masters that were more monks/peace-keepers than actual fighters/warriors. Meanwhile Revan and Malik come from a time where Jedi HAD to fight. They have experience Sidious will never possess because at the end of the day... Sidious is a coward, a schemer, and a manipulator. And short of his more grander displays of power, I doubt Sidious could bring anything to the table that Revan and Malik couldn't deal with.
Revan didn't inspire the Rule of two dude.. Bane was originally going to create "the rule of one" after listening to Revans holocron, where he is the only Sith, then Bane dismissed the idea and created "The Rule of two". All Revan did was made Bane aware of the ways of the ancient Sith (the New Sith forsake ancient traditions), while stating that each Sith master should only have one apprentice: and that the most powerful of the sith rules as Dark Lord of the Sith over all the other masters (like the ancient sith), and when that Dark Lord grows weak, or a stronger Sith appears, that a new Dark Lord takes his place.
@@FoolishPrince I remember Bane being inspired by Darth Revan's belief that a Sith shouldn't train more than one apprentice, as well as other teaching Revan, and other Dark Lords left behind, developed the Rule of Two.
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It's remarkable how Vader is aware of ancient texts, but not the rule of 2. Luke could never turn to the Dark side without Vader or Palpatines sacrifice. Btw these video's are amazing and much appreciated. Your work will pay off. When you plant the seeds correctly, the harvest will turn out just fine.
Vader is fully aware of the rule of two. By the time of the OT, he and Palpatine are both playing the game to replace the other. They're both playing ignorant of what they actually want Luke for, but both Vader and Palpatine are fully aware the other intends to use Luke as a pawn to further their own quest for power.
This is one of the best Star Wars Channels I have discovered. ---- Also, Sidious stating that Revan would fall to him is perhaps the most arrogant thing I have ever heard him say, still, it is in his character. That said, Revan would DESTROY Palpatine with minimal effort
Lord Kaam could probably beat Revan lol Kaan, one of the strongest force users of his time, yet was no match for Bane. Banes Rule of Two overcame the failures of ALL PAST SITH, and his order brought out Sidious. Revan stands no chance against Sidious, None. Revan, a Jedi who was forced to be a sith Lord from a mind trick by vitiate. Kaan controlled a whole legion of Sith (by far greater number than the sith have ever been) with mind tricks: heck he was groomed to be the Jedis champion against the sith when he was a Jedi.
We all know Palpatine is a master of manipulation, but getting Traya, much less, Revan to serve him? Revan is basically the embodiment of pure will while Traya could take Palpatine to school over manipulation with her skills.
Kreia would more likely respect Palpatine for his use of persuasion and manipulation when applied to politics (a skill Palpatine possesses that doesn’t require using the Force)… but wouldn’t respect him for his utter fanaticism of the dark side.
Yep, she mentioned achieving a moving meditation when operating on machinery or “minds of machinery” (basically software and hardware; computer use and repair), piloting, persuasion and ability to heal (which is another form of manipulation).
If Vitiate could turn Revan, Palpatine certainly could. And while Traya’s manipulation skills were legendary, even she cannot hold a candle to Sidious in that regard. Not only were Palpatine’s manipulations significantly more complex and multilayered than Kreia’s but his regularly went all the way up to a galactic/universal scale. Kreia just cannot compete with that.
This video and the video or Revan and Kreia discussing how to defeat the Jedi and Sith, it’s pretty cool, even though they’re part or Legends characters, I hope they come to canon someday, and all the other Sith.
on the eve of the battle of endor this foreshadowed the fall of Palpatine through the whipers of the force. Kreia the manipulator, representing Palpatine, while Revan who fell and returned to the light representing Vader…
Sidious has been winging it ever since the plan created by others ended with order 66, I believe some of the first to sign up to him and support him asked if their cousin timmy who was a bit lacking in the mental department could be a fleet admiral, and he just went "sure whatever"
Actually, the plan was mostly Sidious’s, rather than anyone else’s. In the Darth Plagueis novel, it was revealed at the end that Palpatine had tricked Plagueis into thinking that many of the key aspects of the Sith Grand Plan were his idea, when in fact they were Sidious’s, cleverly suggested to Plagueis so that he could feed them back to him. The plan was Palpatine’s all along, he just tricked everyone else into believing they were the ones in control.
Oooooo I like that. Sion after the exile changes him, with all his experience holding his body together through pain and rage and at the end realizing it was futile.
Wait… Sidious said the Sith are bound to the will of the Force?! He took part in countless Sith alchemy rituals that bend the Force to serve the will of the Sith… the only time in canon that the Force was able to resist at all, it rebelled and created The Chosen One. These videos ARE great, but ya gotta be mindful of who Sidious actually is… he sounded more like Qui-Gon there, than a Sith Lord.
Sidious of all people should know Vader takes cautionary tales as a challenge, given that he counted on that when he disguised Darth Plagueis ' story as one.
Please do Anakin speaking to Padmé in the afterlife of the Netherworld of the Force, Jacen Solo speaking to Kreia/Darth Traya, Qui-Gon Jinn speaking to Revan (the Keanu version you use), Ben Skywalker speaking to Anakin Solo's Force Ghost, Jacen Solo speaking to Qui-Gon Jinn, Vergere speaking to Kreia/Darth Traya, Jacen Solo speaking to Revan (the Keanu version you use), etcetera.
Palpatine and Vader should talk about their previous apprentices Maul and Ahsoka, and their previous temporary alliance during Order 66 and on Malachor.
I'm not sure it makes sense for Sidious to say that even the "mightiest of the Sith are bound to the will of the Force." That sounds more like a Jedi lesson. Wasn't it the Sith's goal to dominate and control the Force?
Correct, however Palpatine was likely speaking from a place of wisdom and guidance, as a mentor would to placate their student. Both he and Vader are fully aware of how the Sith operate and seek to control the Force, but for the sake of casual conversation it's him appeasing Vader's sensibilities.
I remember Darth Tyranus saying "the force is with us" to Sidious at one point. They seek to control the dark side of the force, but are still all bound to it, like everyone else. Sidious plans to control as much as he can, but even he knows he literally can't control everything.
@@Yabuturtle"...but even he knows he literally can't control everything..." If you actually, geniunely believe this, you have zero real conception of Emperor Palpatine/Darth Sidious as a character nor as an archetype.
@@papapalps2415 i think you're a little confused and don't think you've ever really seen Sidious in anything.. If he thought himself above everyone from the get go, he wouldn't have resorted to trickery to kill Plagueis or the Jedi. He freely admits the Jedi would have killed him and Anakin if they weren't dealt with. He wanted Luke dead because he feared his power until Vader convinced him he'd be better as an ally. He's not omnipotent nor does he believe himself to be, despite being dramatic and acting like he's the dark side incarnate. Lots of villains will like to think they are unstoppable but don't truly believe they are godlike and can do anything they want. Lots are still grounded in reality and know they have limits to their power, despite their arrogance.
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Gretaly done, you give us the dialogues we need. How would it be to recreate the deleted scene from revenge of the sith were Qui-gon speaks to Yoda, maybe you even could add something like "it is time to tell Kenobi" to line up with the dialogue between him and Yoda
That's why Vader turned as well and Overthrow Sidious because of His Son, The Hope Of The Galaxy, Luke Skywalker and Fulfilled His Chosen One Prophecy... ✨🙌
It's a bit more complicated than that and a REALLY long story. But to make a long-story short, he began as a jedi and through various events he fell to the Dark Side and became a Sith Lord, then eventually got redeemed and became a jedi again... After a little mind-wiping that is due to how rough of a time he had.
"If you were to face an ancient Sith Lord in combat, you would learn that we are as children playing with toys compared to the prowess of the old Masters." Kreia Both Revan and Kreia are old masters of the Sith. Yes, they failed but have been on both sides. Besides, there is someone out there who is far worse than either Revan or Kreia. And Palpatine doesn't want to meet him.
Except Kreia's opinion holds zero weight, as she is not all-knowing and had zero idea of how powerful the sith who came before her truly would be. Per the official lore, Palpatine surpassed every sith who came before or after him, including the likes of Kun, Qel-Droma and Revan, all of the ones Kreia worshiped like mythological heroes.
Vader: If they were to rise again, what would you do? Sidious: Uh...I'd retire and go to another galaxy. I'm not going to tangle with two powerful force adepts who have long since been dead and all of a sudden rise again.
@1:15 do the Sith really believe that people "fall" to the Dark Side? Though I can see why that phrasing is used here, as it is the most straightforward.
I would like to see a vid where Obi-Wan asks Darth maul to become (mid teenaged) Luke Skywalker's lightsaber teacher since he thinks his own lightsaber skills are lackluster compared Darth maul assertive methods
Damn now I want to see Revan and Kreia kick Sidious's ass. Also, people are so talking about Revan. No way anyone that cool would be forgotten in history.
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I think he's mentioned the will of the force. I mean, he does want to control everything, but even knows he can't literally control all of creation. I don't even think Anakin at his maximum could do that.
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It is so nice to hear Vader and Sidious say Revan's name. Always liked when movie characters referenced EU characters in the books and comics and whatnot back in the old, good EU. Made the Star Wars universe feel more connected between the different media and different eras.
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They don't know he exist at all
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Sidious overconfidence is his greatest weakness.
The trust is friends is others.
The most common flaw among the sith.
your faith in your friends is yours
Your lack of vision is yours.
He was cocky & arrogant!
Sidious is afraid of Revan and Kreia, because these two are a deviation from the norm they were the embodiment of the Force and the perfect balance between light and darkness.
He is not affraid of em'.
Sidious is the most powerful Sith in history!
@@BuriedAlien-TRN242In George Lucas's history, yes.
Darth Sidious addressed that question in the video. He would find a way to destroy them. Just like he did Mother Talzin.
@@BuriedAlien-TRN242 Power doesn't count for much if you haven't the wisdom to know when to take a threat seriously. After all, was Sidious not defeated by his weaker apprentice?
Sidious may have been the most powerful Sith, though even if Lucas claims that I still have my doubts 'cause goodness knows that man couldn't even keep track of his own lore... But Sidious was likewise a deeply flawed sith and I'd argue a complete and utter coward. It's all deception and manipulation with him, or striking at those decidedly weaker than himself, only fighting or making more overt displays of power when he has no other choice. Hell, Sidious is so afraid of being over-thrown that he went out of his way to dispose of useful dark-siders just because he was afraid they'd grow to powerful, handicapped Vader, and cracks down HARD on anyone with thoughts or ambitions of deposing of him. That's not the mark of a powerful sith, but that of a weak and craven coward. A far cry from what the "Rule of Two" sith are supposed to be.
@@BuriedAlien-TRN242 *Wacks with rolled up Newspaper*
Bad! Palpatine isn't Frieza in a bathrobe!
1. Palpatine is an old man at this point. Unless he jumps into a clone body before the fight, all he can really do by the OT era is force lightning. Any KOTOR-era character worth their salt isn't going down to just that.
2. "The most powerful Sith in history" was a statement made before any of the EU stuff that *REALLY* power crept the setting was made. Even if it was, Lucas actively ignored and discounted EU material. To paraphrase Lucas, it has to be treated as a separate universe - meaning that authorial statements didn't apply to characters he didn't make by his own logic.
3. Even if we disregard above logic - being more powerful doesn't mean he can't lose to someone weaker than him. Palpatine canonically died by being tossed down a reactor shaft by a cripple in a suit that deliberately gimped him versus his main offensive ability for crying out loud.
4. "BUT IT SAYS IN X COMIC, PANEL Y" Bruh, those comics people like you love referencing are there purely to sell merch and tell wildly different stories that don't coincide with the main source material. Referencing Star Wars comic books as your source is like referencing a fan made continuation of a film or TV show made on Tik-Tok.
Sidious dismisses Revan
But it was Revan’s teachings that inspired the Rule of Two
I really am confused by this rule . There’s only two active sith at any given time but why have inquisitors ? Like I understood palpatine went for maul and explained there can only be two, so why have dooku even train savage or asajj . They wasn’t sith ?
@@garlicbread7129savage and asajj were not sith, merely dark jedi and used as pawns by the sith in their games of chess against the jedi
@@garlicbread7129 инквизиторы были просто охотниками за джедаями. инквизиторы бывшие джедаи. а саважа и ассаж лишили титулов ситхов. так же и мол. дуку тренировал саважа потому что он считал, что на него покушались "джедаи". ассаж простой охотник, убийца. она не ситх. мол брат саважа обучал саважа темной стороне, тем самым нарушив правило двух. палпатин убил саважа, а молу он сказал, что он больше не ситх. надеюсь я тебе всё объяснил
@@garlicbread7129 The reason is quite simple
In the ancient time, the sith killed eachother faster than the jedi.
Due to their view, greed and lust of power
However, many weaker apprentices can over throw a powerful master. Making the sith weaker and diluted
Thus not to go extinct the rule was made. Only one master and one apprentice. No more no less
Having two apprentices will results in a weaker outcome
By having the rule of 2. The apprentice will seek greater power from the master. Till the master out lives their purpose and the cycle continues
Thus the sith managed to live longer, the jedi though they were gone leading to the prequel trilogy
@@garlicbread7129 The Inquisitors aren’t Sith; they are Dark side users, but not Sith. Same with Savage and Ventress.
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Ironic that Sidious' legacy also wound up being a cautionary tale. Arrogance blinds one. Most of all to one's faults.
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Palpatine - "Don't go thinking you could walk the same path of Revan, Lord Vader... You're not that guy."
Vader - ::sad Vader::
Sidous be like "You're not that guy pal"
Lmao, it's odd too, cause Anakin and Revan share a lot of similarities
(But both Anakin and Vader are also the Revan Guy.)
A debate between Kreia and Sidious would be phenomenal, better yet a full discussion between Plagueis and Kreia would be even better!
I am so here for these continuing narratives so dope
Palpatine in his hubris disregards Revan's return, such folly. For he is Revan, and before him Palpatine is nothing. Once again, great work. Hope to see Bastilla and Joliee Bindo,
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"I am Revan reborn, and before me, you are nothing."
Revan might be incredible but Sidious is still arguably more powerful.
@@newhybrid101 Maybe so, but his cowardice and flaws will make him as vulnerable as any other sith.
@@newhybrid101 I have to disagree. You need to take into account that Revan is from a time when Jedi were more often than not very active in battle. This led to the Jedi of the KOTOR/KOTOR II and SWTOR eras to have vast amounts of experience in combat, as well as usage of their skills and abilities.
On the other hand, except for the Clone Wars, and the last battle with the Sith Empire a thousand years prior, the Jedi had no viable combat experience beyond sparring during training, or the occasional fight with some criminal groups. This also applies to the Sith after Darth Bane's establishment of the Rule of Two. Because the Sith operated from the shadows afterwards, they didn't really get involved in battle.
Sidious was powerful, don't get me wrong, but he spent most of his time manipulating events from the shadows, or wrapped up in one of his rituals. He was like the Jedi, and you can see this in his fight with Mace Windu, where Mace Windu fought him on equal terms, and nearly won if it hadn't been for Anakin/Vader's interference.
In the end, based on all the facts seen, I believe Revan would have a relatively easy time dealing with Sidious, the same with Kreia. Vader would likely put up somewhat of a fight, but in the end, I feel that he would fall to Revan and Kreia even if he fought one on one.
@@fenrirgaming37 Sidious was seen as one of the most powerful Sith because of his ability to use the force. If you go by Legends, Sidious was well accomplished enslaving planets and sapping the residents’ life to extend his own and disintegrating starships with his lightning. In the Clone Wars, he easily defeated Savage, who was enhanced with Nightsister magic, and Maul, who lived his entire life as a combatant. Sidious lost to Windu because Windu was a master of Vaapad, which uses the opponents rage against them and scales to the dark side user.
Vader, much like Sion, refuses to die. His suit’s kill switch was activated before Return of the Jedi, and he keeps himself alive using the force. He is also seen in a canon comic, using force storm and is not seen to be hindered from the loss of his limbs.
While Sith and Jedi did take more combative roles in the Old Republic timeframe, most were very weak which is how troopers were able to face Jedi and Sith. Any Jedi or Sith remotely near Sidious or Vader would seem extraordinary for the time.
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Sidious is just downplaying Revan because he doesn't want Vader to get any ideas on how to redeem himself. xD
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I would watch a 2 hour movie of just Vader and Palpatine talking
The Vader voice sounds like it was recorded in the 1950s or 1960s, it's a really cool take on him, but still sounds close to Mr. Jones
I would love to see Darth Sidious, to speak with Darth Traya.
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Palpatine fears what he cannot control. The powers jedi and sith had in the past were far greater than he could possibly imagine. By his time almost all ancient knowledge was already lost to the ages.
The feats of the rule of 2 sith are much more impressive though.
Darth Revan and Darth Malak vs Darth Sidious and Darth Vader, that would be an epic fight! The Sith who inspired The Rule of Two vs The Sith who culminate The Rule of Two.
I would like to see if Vader could beat Malak.
We all know Sidious would be the victories anyway.
@@BuriedAlien-TRN242With Darth Revan, of course. But with Revan Reborn, that's another story.
@@BuriedAlien-TRN242 Do we though? After all... His arrogance IS his greatest weakness. With the exception of Mace Windu, Yoda, and maybe Mother Talzin, Sidious has never really fought anyone of significant power or skill... Just his wayward former-apprentice Maul, Savage, and a handful of mid jedi-masters that were more monks/peace-keepers than actual fighters/warriors.
Meanwhile Revan and Malik come from a time where Jedi HAD to fight. They have experience Sidious will never possess because at the end of the day... Sidious is a coward, a schemer, and a manipulator. And short of his more grander displays of power, I doubt Sidious could bring anything to the table that Revan and Malik couldn't deal with.
Revan didn't inspire the Rule of two dude..
Bane was originally going to create "the rule of one" after listening to Revans holocron, where he is the only Sith, then Bane dismissed the idea and created "The Rule of two".
All Revan did was made Bane aware of the ways of the ancient Sith (the New Sith forsake ancient traditions), while stating that each Sith master should only have one apprentice: and that the most powerful of the sith rules as Dark Lord of the Sith over all the other masters (like the ancient sith), and when that Dark Lord grows weak, or a stronger Sith appears, that a new Dark Lord takes his place.
@@FoolishPrince I remember Bane being inspired by Darth Revan's belief that a Sith shouldn't train more than one apprentice, as well as other teaching Revan, and other Dark Lords left behind, developed the Rule of Two.
Great video! I hope to see Ahsoka or Grievous in the future as well.
Ok this channel is awesome. It totally capture the spirit and the tone of what Star Wars should be. Not just this video but all of them.
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It's remarkable how Vader is aware of ancient texts, but not the rule of 2. Luke could never turn to the Dark side without Vader or Palpatines sacrifice.
Btw these video's are amazing and much appreciated. Your work will pay off. When you plant the seeds correctly, the harvest will turn out just fine.
Didn't Vader specifically ask Luke to join him to together destroy the Emperor?
Vader is fully aware of the rule of two. By the time of the OT, he and Palpatine are both playing the game to replace the other. They're both playing ignorant of what they actually want Luke for, but both Vader and Palpatine are fully aware the other intends to use Luke as a pawn to further their own quest for power.
This is one of the best Star Wars Channels I have discovered. ---- Also, Sidious stating that Revan would fall to him is perhaps the most arrogant thing I have ever heard him say, still, it is in his character. That said, Revan would DESTROY Palpatine with minimal effort
Lord Kaam could probably beat Revan lol
Kaan, one of the strongest force users of his time, yet was no match for Bane.
Banes Rule of Two overcame the failures of ALL PAST SITH, and his order brought out Sidious.
Revan stands no chance against Sidious, None.
Revan, a Jedi who was forced to be a sith Lord from a mind trick by vitiate.
Kaan controlled a whole legion of Sith (by far greater number than the sith have ever been) with mind tricks: heck he was groomed to be the Jedis champion against the sith when he was a Jedi.
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We all know Palpatine is a master of manipulation, but getting Traya, much less, Revan to serve him? Revan is basically the embodiment of pure will while Traya could take Palpatine to school over manipulation with her skills.
Kreia would more likely respect Palpatine for his use of persuasion and manipulation when applied to politics (a skill Palpatine possesses that doesn’t require using the Force)… but wouldn’t respect him for his utter fanaticism of the dark side.
@@EricGraham94 That I can see as she talked to Meetra at one point about some of the best skills some with the Force have like Repair or Persuasion.
Yep, she mentioned achieving a moving meditation when operating on machinery or “minds of machinery” (basically software and hardware; computer use and repair), piloting, persuasion and ability to heal (which is another form of manipulation).
If Vitiate could turn Revan, Palpatine certainly could. And while Traya’s manipulation skills were legendary, even she cannot hold a candle to Sidious in that regard. Not only were Palpatine’s manipulations significantly more complex and multilayered than Kreia’s but his regularly went all the way up to a galactic/universal scale. Kreia just cannot compete with that.
Dooku confronts Sidious….that would be interesting.
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Sidious: "U mad, bro?"
Great work, keep it up! Would be nice to see some encounters with Exar Kun
I just recently found this channel, I'm really enjoying it.
This video and the video or Revan and Kreia discussing how to defeat the Jedi and Sith, it’s pretty cool, even though they’re part or Legends characters, I hope they come to canon someday, and all the other Sith.
This is the best video yet!!!! Can you make one for Vitiate contacting the two and giving them his wisdom over this problem?
I'd love for you to have Darth Vectivus talk to someone.
"The approval of the dead is meaningless." - Darth Sidious
Great video Skywalker Stories once more.
The dialogues are great and all but the voices are creepily accurate. it's crazy.
I was glad that Darth Vader senses Revan and Kreia. Since Vader talked to Revan before on your channel.
Your Content is fantastic, you’re doing a great job, keep it up!
on the eve of the battle of endor this foreshadowed the fall of Palpatine through the whipers of the force. Kreia the manipulator, representing Palpatine, while Revan who fell and returned to the light representing Vader…
I have to know how you came up with these dialogues? They topple the entire sequel trilogy and series
Sidious has been winging it ever since the plan created by others ended with order 66, I believe some of the first to sign up to him and support him asked if their cousin timmy who was a bit lacking in the mental department could be a fleet admiral, and he just went "sure whatever"
Actually, the plan was mostly Sidious’s, rather than anyone else’s. In the Darth Plagueis novel, it was revealed at the end that Palpatine had tricked Plagueis into thinking that many of the key aspects of the Sith Grand Plan were his idea, when in fact they were Sidious’s, cleverly suggested to Plagueis so that he could feed them back to him. The plan was Palpatine’s all along, he just tricked everyone else into believing they were the ones in control.
I wanna see Vader talk to Sion and see how that goes
Oooooo I like that. Sion after the exile changes him, with all his experience holding his body together through pain and rage and at the end realizing it was futile.
I would like to see them discuss more about the ancient Sith. Oooh, or Korriban.
Disney should've given the Old Republic era a *lot* more attention.
Wait… Sidious said the Sith are bound to the will of the Force?! He took part in countless Sith alchemy rituals that bend the Force to serve the will of the Sith… the only time in canon that the Force was able to resist at all, it rebelled and created The Chosen One.
These videos ARE great, but ya gotta be mindful of who Sidious actually is… he sounded more like Qui-Gon there, than a Sith Lord.
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Sidious of all people should know Vader takes cautionary tales as a challenge, given that he counted on that when he disguised Darth Plagueis ' story as one.
Is this the beginning of a continuous “what if” narrative?
Sounds fun
Please do Anakin speaking to Padmé in the afterlife of the Netherworld of the Force, Jacen Solo speaking to Kreia/Darth Traya, Qui-Gon Jinn speaking to Revan (the Keanu version you use), Ben Skywalker speaking to Anakin Solo's Force Ghost, Jacen Solo speaking to Qui-Gon Jinn, Vergere speaking to Kreia/Darth Traya, Jacen Solo speaking to Revan (the Keanu version you use), etcetera.
Palpatine and Vader should talk about their previous apprentices Maul and Ahsoka, and their previous temporary alliance during Order 66 and on Malachor.
I'm not sure it makes sense for Sidious to say that even the "mightiest of the Sith are bound to the will of the Force." That sounds more like a Jedi lesson. Wasn't it the Sith's goal to dominate and control the Force?
Correct, however Palpatine was likely speaking from a place of wisdom and guidance, as a mentor would to placate their student. Both he and Vader are fully aware of how the Sith operate and seek to control the Force, but for the sake of casual conversation it's him appeasing Vader's sensibilities.
I remember Darth Tyranus saying "the force is with us" to Sidious at one point. They seek to control the dark side of the force, but are still all bound to it, like everyone else. Sidious plans to control as much as he can, but even he knows he literally can't control everything.
@@Yabuturtle"...but even he knows he literally can't control everything..."
If you actually, geniunely believe this, you have zero real conception of Emperor Palpatine/Darth Sidious as a character nor as an archetype.
@@papapalps2415 i think you're a little confused and don't think you've ever really seen Sidious in anything..
If he thought himself above everyone from the get go, he wouldn't have resorted to trickery to kill Plagueis or the Jedi. He freely admits the Jedi would have killed him and Anakin if they weren't dealt with. He wanted Luke dead because he feared his power until Vader convinced him he'd be better as an ally. He's not omnipotent nor does he believe himself to be, despite being dramatic and acting like he's the dark side incarnate. Lots of villains will like to think they are unstoppable but don't truly believe they are godlike and can do anything they want. Lots are still grounded in reality and know they have limits to their power, despite their arrogance.
Bro, you gotta listen to me! I have ideas! Do a video of Luke interacting with his son Ben, and another video of Ben interacting with his mom, Mara Jade, then Ben interacting with Anakin. Ben with Qui Gon, Obi-Wan. And Padme, if that could be possible. Do these videos please
loving this story
Gretaly done, you give us the dialogues we need.
How would it be to recreate the deleted scene from revenge of the sith were Qui-gon speaks to Yoda, maybe you even could add something like "it is time to tell Kenobi" to line up with the dialogue between him and Yoda
There should be one with nihilus
It would just be those creepy rasps and growls.
@@maxfrankow1238Other characters discussing Nihilus could be interesting though.
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Nihilus rasps.
Anyone - "Snickers."
Nom nom nom.
Nihilus - "Ah, much better, thank you. "
Nihilus: *makes creepy noises*
Anakin: I don't understand a word you just said...
2nd attempt.
Poor Nihilus.
He just needed a Snickers.
You gotta do a video with Bastila Shan sometime.
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That's why Vader turned as well and Overthrow Sidious because of His Son, The Hope Of The Galaxy, Luke Skywalker and Fulfilled His Chosen One Prophecy... ✨🙌
so basically reaven was basically the starwars version of two face two identity's
It's a bit more complicated than that and a REALLY long story. But to make a long-story short, he began as a jedi and through various events he fell to the Dark Side and became a Sith Lord, then eventually got redeemed and became a jedi again... After a little mind-wiping that is due to how rough of a time he had.
"If you were to face an ancient Sith Lord in combat, you would learn that we are as children playing with toys compared to the prowess of the old Masters." Kreia
Both Revan and Kreia are old masters of the Sith. Yes, they failed but have been on both sides. Besides, there is someone out there who is far worse than either Revan or Kreia. And Palpatine doesn't want to meet him.
(who's that?)
Except Kreia's opinion holds zero weight, as she is not all-knowing and had zero idea of how powerful the sith who came before her truly would be. Per the official lore, Palpatine surpassed every sith who came before or after him, including the likes of Kun, Qel-Droma and Revan, all of the ones Kreia worshiped like mythological heroes.
nothing to add nothing to take away great as always
Vader: If they were to rise again, what would you do?
Sidious: Uh...I'd retire and go to another galaxy. I'm not going to tangle with two powerful force adepts who have long since been dead and all of a sudden rise again.
@1:15 do the Sith really believe that people "fall" to the Dark Side? Though I can see why that phrasing is used here, as it is the most straightforward.
Meanwhile swt milks vader 2 for 6 years. This guy needs way more attention then 30k subs
True theory is milking the community's need for better content
SWT is also making a full production level feature length Vader film. I'd cut him some slack not all though.
Vader 2 & 3. And Starwars theory earned everything he's got
And grievous. I’m so damn sick of grievous
@@TFWZeldaHere The only thing that pathetic milks, is the physical embodiment of ALL Star Wars Complainers.
Kreia and Luke converse
That would be brilliant.
Kreia would certainly want to turn Luke into the role she wanted Surik to have.
More like Kreia and Anakin converse.
I actually think Kreia would approve of Legends Luke and what he turned the jedi order into.
Kreia talking to Vader would be good
Here we go! 👏 😊
I would like to see a vid where Obi-Wan asks Darth maul to become (mid teenaged) Luke Skywalker's lightsaber teacher since he thinks his own lightsaber skills are lackluster compared Darth maul assertive methods
Why would Obi-Wan consider his style lackluster when he killed Maul (twice)?
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it is a figure of speech,
maybe obi-wan thinks that luke should learn a more aggressive fighting style like maul's,
Obi-Wan and a redeemed Maul training Luke is a interesting idea.
Please do Mace Windu speaking to Luke Skywalker!
SO METAL!!!
I want to hear more of kreias conversations with other characters.
Skywalker Stories 🔥
Revan was so powerful he was grabbed by jedi and mindwiped.
I can't help but I find Palpatine's voice comforting. Is it just me or someone has it similar? Please tell me
He's far mistaken, they seek to end both sides!
If only Vader got his own TV series.
Please do Obiwans ghost speaking to Ahsoka Tano!
They felt The Heart of The Force
And the fact that nobody can even remember Revan's general says a lot.
Also...
ALL HAIL LORD REVAN!!!
Damn now I want to see Revan and Kreia kick Sidious's ass. Also, people are so talking about Revan. No way anyone that cool would be forgotten in history.
I need to see Revan face the Emperor now.
Thank you loved the vid but more revan and kreia/Traya
3:25 Sheev: I guess I'll die...
Make one of them talking about Meetra Surik.
"Like an echo"
This is great. Has that "mystical" vibe that's too rare with SW today. Nice to see how Sidious would lecture Vader about their ancient peers
Really enjoying this content, man. I would like to ask for my own creative purposes. What do you use software wise to make this? I’d like to find it and learn how to use it for projects of my own.
uh... doesn't that also describe Sidious? didn't he seek to control the force and think himself above it? this isn't from canon material is it?
I think he's mentioned the will of the force. I mean, he does want to control everything, but even knows he can't literally control all of creation. I don't even think Anakin at his maximum could do that.
Oooh awesome my guy 😮😍😁😋💪 oh soo good.