WOW! Fantastic job on the conversion & video. We are always humbled when random strangers are genuinely excited about our propane conversions. It is what motivates us to do what we do! 👍 Hit us up if you have any questions. We are here to help! - Hutch Mountain - HutchMountain.com BTW the 1st of your video was hilarious. Pulling your arm off because of a clogged carburetor from bad gasoline can be beneficial… For a free workout program! 🤣
Hutch does it matter what length hose can be used ? If I attach the unit to a trailer mounted tank it's not long enough to be able to set the unit on the ground . I would like to use a long enough hose to move the unit away from the trailer so the noise at night is lower . Is there a limit on the length of hose that can be used ?
🆘 HELP US HUTCH!! YOU ARE DESPERATELY NEEDED IN 3 KEY AREAS -->> EVERYONE NEEDS TO KNOW YOU EXIST!! 1. MOBILE / PORTABLE use on fire apparatus (most especially light/heavy rescue and similar vehicles). 2. COMMUNICATIONS & COMMAND / COMMAND POST VEHICLES. 3. REMOTE COMMUNICATIONS SITES/TOWERS. (to the small size of the Hondas as well as the lack of remote start and ATS transfer switching and diagnostics, The use would be more limited to using several in parallel as back up if the permanently installed natural gas or diesel standby genset fails or if there is no generator installed and personnel will be responding to set temporary power) Storing & Carrying gasoline or diesel on a vehicle presents quite a few challenges. The same applies to storing gasoline for long periods of time, even with the use of added stabilizers. The introduction of inverter based generators by Honda and others (they are pricey, Honda always seems to make the best equipment) allows the use of sensitive electronics and computer/communications equipment out in the field. Now having the ability to utilize propane as a fuel makes it more attractive for use in the emergency services arena. I just completed installing one of your kits on a new EU2200i. Smooth install, the directions were incredibly easy and it went in like a dream. (This video was very instructional as well) Everything works well though have not tried natural gas yet. BUT.... YOU ARE DESPA
Get a large cheapo (HD/Lowes/Harbor Freight) tool box for all the accessories for your gen. I keep the regulator/hose and oil, drain kit, spare spark plugs/fuel filter. Spare socket set and multi-bit screwdriver. This way when you take the gen somewhere you have kit to repair and maintain the gen. ALSO, get an inductive hour meter ($10) to keep track of the time on the gen so you know when you need to change the oil. BTW, I bot a 2200i and installed the Hutch kit back in 2018----so nice to never have to worry about gas going bad. I have 4 propane tanks--just in case. Also, since I primarily use this for emergencies (outages) I have a 10/3 extension cord(50 ft) so the gen is safely away from the house AND the extension cord is heavy enough to properly carry current to my fridge(energy star) and window a/c (energy star)---yes both work with my 2200i, even at peak usage for both.
I’m not sure if it’s true but I’ve heard carbon can build up on the intake valve from the lack of cleaning effect of gasoline going over it. Simple fix is just occasionally run gas in it which I think would be a good idea anyway just to make sure EVERYTHING is working properly.
I didn't think it was that big of a deal at first, but it's been nice not having to worry about gasoline going bad. Just connect up the propane and away you go.
Haha Thanks! The genny doesn't get much use and I try to run the carb dry so it takes a few pulls to fill it back up to get it to start. The intro was just me trying to be funny. :)
if that kit has a flow control adjustment put the generator under full load and close the flow control down till it stumbles down then open till it smooths back up. That will insure no propane is wasted I have a conversion kit for a 6500 watt but adjusted the flow down to about 2000 watts. I get about 16+ hours on a 40lbs tank
"Releasable Zip Ties" Home Despot sometimes carries them. There are some nice ones that are about a quarter inch wide and have a push button-ish lever that you press to release. Nice build!
Most excellent! I hoped they actually stocked them at your store and that they weren't just online or something. I try to use them for everything. When I build panels with them I can re-open wire bundles for troubleshooting or to add more wires, otherwise as soon as you tighten regular ones SOMETHING makes you have to open them e.g. cut them again. (Probably some Murphy's correlation).
Better way...sure, you might want to turn on the choke first. About to watch the rest of your video but I couldn’t resist after watching the winded hug of the generator when it wouldn’t start.
James William I don’t know if being a loyal subscriber is good. It might start causing you to listen to Christmas music. And visiting different cities in July. It a addiction that can lead to people think that you have lost your mind. But, it is fun!!
This is a good option if you don't use the generator too much since propane is less energy-dense than gasoline. I rarely use mine and had trouble with the gas going bad so it's perfect for my current needs. Others have commented about gasoline vs propane and while not incorrect, they didn't take usage patterns into account. If you want an all-inclusive kit, this is awesome! If you 're more of a DIY'er, you may be able to source things more cheaply, but you'll spend more time doing it. I'm very happy with it. 😂
Great Video. Thanks. I noticed you drilled 2 holes. One seemed to be use to hook up an electrical pair of wire. Could you explain what that was for? Thanks. I saw another video showing this install using the same Hutch Mountain kit and did not see this step.
Thanks! It's a kill switch. It may have been added to the kit later. Really more of a "nice to have" since you can just turn off the fuel to kill the genny, but the switch is more immediate.
@@CanispaterChristmas When the kill switch is added, the harness modifies the factory on-off switch so it only cuts off the gasoline. This way the factory switch cuts off gasoline when you are using propane. To shut when running on gasoline, you can use the factory switch to cut the gas flow and permit the carburetor bowl to run dry, so you're not leaving gas in it to gum up.
@@eegg6954 Cool. I think I have a bad fuel pump in mine. Runs great on propane. Used it recently unfortunately (snowpacalypse), but it worked great. Thanks for the info! 👍
The jet in the o-ring container would replace the existing jet in the carburetor, if u want to run it on natural gas. The jets for propane vs natural gas have a different orifice size, hence the need to change the jet when switching from propane to natural gas, or vice versa.
Some logical thinking RE: Propane. Honda makes propane engines. Honda makes gasoline engines. Honda makes bi- and tri-fuel engines. Many times, they're different options for the same engine. Do you think they use different materials for all three, costing more in machining and development? No. At least not in modern versions of these engines. The fuel ports and mix controls are the only differences, and as you can see, they're interchangeable in many cases. Saying it will damage a modern engine to convert it to propane is like saying adding an electric starter will damage it.
It has everything to do with E.P.A. regs and certain states won’t allow it to sell there unless it is compliant. Honda probably doesn’t want to manufacture a unit that can’t be sold in California and others. It’s a ridiculous mess.
Hi, Glad that you mentioned those videos where the persons created a time bomb, and yo showed the right way to do it. I have a Predator from Harbor Freight, can I convert that one into a propane one too? Thanks
Awesome video. I am going to contact Hutch Mountain and ask if I can use this on my 1000W Honda Generator. everything looks the same, I think it is the same carburetor.
I noticed at 14:48 in the video you have what looks like the original on off sticker on the unit but you show that you took it off and added another one the company provided. Is that because your generator doesn't have the new on off switch that was add because of the recall ? Because you don't have the new 3 way switch that allows you to turn off just the gasoline flow to the carb you had to add the on off switch to the top of the unit to allow you to switch off the gasoline pump before you can turn on the propane . The sticker you added and then removed should only be added if you have the new 3 way switch installed . Why didn't you say anything about this in the video ? If you unit is part of the recall you should not just add the on off switch at the top . You have to get the new 3 way switch installed and use the included sticker you had on but later removed. As you can read on the new sticker when you turn the switch all most all the way off they added gasoline off area. When you turn the switch to that area it does what the switch you added at the top does. All the units that don't have the 3 way switch have been recalled and should be replaced because they can leak fuel. Here is a link to the recalled units.powerequipment.honda.com/support/recalls-and-updates .
The spark-interrupt switch was included in the propane conversion kit. You can use it to turn off the generator or just switch off the propane (probably a better idea anyway) and let it run out of fuel. The generator runs with the fuel switch in the off position while running on propane.
wait/////at the end 14:47..you cranked a generator still using gas?....i saw the old sticker on and off...what?????and you already installed the new sticker....what going on?
Thank you very much for the video. Is this immediately ready to disconnect from propane and hook to natural gas? Also, what is life expectancy of the generator with natural gas compared to gasoline or propane?
These are probably better answered by Clay at Hutch Mountain, but I think so and no clue. I'm not aware of any special connection for natural gas so it would be as simple as shutting the generator down, disconnecting the propane, connecting the natural gas and starting the generator. Also, not sure if there is a life expectancy difference just for different fuels.
What I have read and heard from people who converted gasoline engines to propane or NG is that the oil will not get dirty. One friend says his oil stays looking new now (in his truck on propane). Everything I have read says the engine will last longer.
Performance should be close enough unless you are running it hard. Propane has less energy than gas so 5 gal of gas will go farther than 5 gal of propane. Run time is based on the load so running it at the max will be less time than running it at 50% of the rated output. I've not run any tests to determine runtime. The biggest difference is not having to worry about the gasoline evaporating and gumming up everything, plus I can cook hamburgers with the same fuel. :) I also like that I can still use gasoline if I run out of propane. Hutch Mountain may have more information than I do. Plus they are super nice and eager to help.
The thread rap that you use I believe should be Yellow in color not white. They sell the yellow Propane< Natural Gas tape in the plumbing area at Lowes etc. Not sure what the difference is but, I'm wondering why Hutch Mountain didn't include it with the kit. As long as you are trying to run an appliance by using the generator you should be ok. Running it through an electric panel would cause a electric back flow into your electric grid. ( NOT GOOD) I would look into getting a bigger propane tank. They used to sell a 100gallon tank at Lowes. Usually kept outside with riding mowers out front. Remember once someone finds out ya got something they need that small generator might grow some walking legs in the middle of the night. Look into getting something call (ground anchor) (model# is50017) Keep up the good work < Lower Alabama said that>
Thanks! These were pre-wrapped so I'll let Hutch chime in if he's watching. The genny will not be grid-tied so no issues there. I have a 40lb tank, but again, this is just for emergencies (we have excellent power from the city otherwise) so the propane will be used for outdoor heating and grilling normally. As for security, I have dogs. lol!
The teflon we use is a specialty tape certified for both natural gas & lpg. Being grey it also looks good! Back in the day, you could only buy gas tape in yellow. Thanks for the comment. :)
WOW! Fantastic job on the conversion & video. We are always humbled when random strangers are genuinely excited about our propane conversions. It is what motivates us to do what we do! 👍 Hit us up if you have any questions. We are here to help! - Hutch Mountain - HutchMountain.com BTW the 1st of your video was hilarious. Pulling your arm off because of a clogged carburetor from bad gasoline can be beneficial… For a free workout program! 🤣
Hutch does it matter what length hose can be used ? If I attach the unit to a trailer mounted tank it's not long enough to be able to set the unit on the ground . I would like to use a long enough hose to move the unit away from the trailer so the noise at night is lower . Is there a limit on the length of hose that can be used ?
🆘 HELP US HUTCH!! YOU ARE DESPERATELY NEEDED IN 3 KEY AREAS -->>
EVERYONE NEEDS TO KNOW YOU EXIST!!
1. MOBILE / PORTABLE use on fire apparatus (most especially light/heavy rescue and similar vehicles).
2. COMMUNICATIONS & COMMAND / COMMAND POST VEHICLES.
3. REMOTE COMMUNICATIONS SITES/TOWERS. (to the small size of the Hondas as well as the lack of remote start and ATS transfer switching and diagnostics, The use would be more limited to using several in parallel as back up if the permanently installed natural gas or diesel standby
genset fails or if there is no generator installed and personnel will be responding to set temporary power)
Storing & Carrying gasoline or diesel on a vehicle presents quite a few challenges.
The same applies to storing gasoline for long periods of time, even with the use of added stabilizers.
The introduction of inverter based generators by Honda and others (they are pricey, Honda always seems to make the best equipment) allows the use of sensitive electronics and computer/communications equipment out in the field. Now having the ability to utilize propane as a fuel makes it more attractive for use in the emergency services arena.
I just completed installing one of your kits on a new EU2200i.
Smooth install, the directions were incredibly easy and it went in like a dream. (This video was very instructional as well)
Everything works well though have not tried natural gas yet.
BUT.... YOU ARE DESPA
Get a large cheapo (HD/Lowes/Harbor Freight) tool box for all the accessories for your gen. I keep the regulator/hose and oil, drain kit, spare spark plugs/fuel filter. Spare socket set and multi-bit screwdriver. This way when you take the gen somewhere you have kit to repair and maintain the gen. ALSO, get an inductive hour meter ($10) to keep track of the time on the gen so you know when you need to change the oil. BTW, I bot a 2200i and installed the Hutch kit back in 2018----so nice to never have to worry about gas going bad. I have 4 propane tanks--just in case. Also, since I primarily use this for emergencies (outages) I have a 10/3 extension cord(50 ft) so the gen is safely away from the house AND the extension cord is heavy enough to properly carry current to my fridge(energy star) and window a/c (energy star)---yes both work with my 2200i, even at peak usage for both.
Great idea! Yeah, I love having it available for emergencies too. It fires right up every time. I got an extra 40 pound tank in case I need it.
I’m not sure if it’s true but I’ve heard carbon can build up on the intake valve from the lack of cleaning effect of gasoline going over it. Simple fix is just occasionally run gas in it which I think would be a good idea anyway just to make sure EVERYTHING is working properly.
I think my fuel pump is bad and it's a standby (low use) genny so I don't run gasoline anymore. I'll keep an eye on it though. Thanks!
I've never thought about converting my eu3000i. Maybe it's time to consider 🤔
Thanks for the video.
I didn't think it was that big of a deal at first, but it's been nice not having to worry about gasoline going bad. Just connect up the propane and away you go.
Use the choke to start the honda.
Haha Thanks! The genny doesn't get much use and I try to run the carb dry so it takes a few pulls to fill it back up to get it to start. The intro was just me trying to be funny. :)
if that kit has a flow control adjustment put the generator under full load and close the flow control down till it stumbles down then open till it smooths back up. That will insure no propane is wasted I have a conversion kit for a 6500 watt but adjusted the flow down to about 2000 watts. I get about 16+ hours on a 40lbs tank
Thanks for the tip!
"Releasable Zip Ties" Home Despot sometimes carries them. There are some nice ones that are about a quarter inch wide and have a push button-ish lever that you press to release.
Nice build!
Thanks! Yeah, I knew there had to be something I could use other than normal zip ties. :)
Picked up a reusable zip tie at HD today. Thanks for the tip! :)
Most excellent! I hoped they actually stocked them at your store and that they weren't just online or something. I try to use them for everything. When I build panels with them I can re-open wire bundles for troubleshooting or to add more wires, otherwise as soon as you tighten regular ones SOMETHING makes you have to open them e.g. cut them again. (Probably some Murphy's correlation).
One short half-second blast of starting fluid on the outside of the air cleaner cover will start almost all small engines on the first pull.
Haha. Thanks! The open is a joke on most of my videos, but it usually has something to do with the rest of the content.
Better way...sure, you might want to turn on the choke first. About to watch the rest of your video but I couldn’t resist after watching the winded hug of the generator when it wouldn’t start.
Haha. Most of the intros to my videos are silly, but I think I have a bad fuel pump on this one.
You sir earned yourself a loyal new subscriber
James William I don’t know if being a loyal subscriber is good. It might start causing you to listen to Christmas music. And visiting different cities in July. It a addiction that can lead to people think that you have lost your mind. But, it is fun!!
Thanks!
There is that. Yes.
This would be perfect for my home made camper thanks for the info
This is a good option if you don't use the generator too much since propane is less energy-dense than gasoline. I rarely use mine and had trouble with the gas going bad so it's perfect for my current needs. Others have commented about gasoline vs propane and while not incorrect, they didn't take usage patterns into account. If you want an all-inclusive kit, this is awesome! If you 're more of a DIY'er, you may be able to source things more cheaply, but you'll spend more time doing it. I'm very happy with it. 😂
Great Video. Thanks. I noticed you drilled 2 holes. One seemed to be use to hook up an electrical pair of wire. Could you explain what that was for? Thanks. I saw another video showing this install using the same Hutch Mountain kit and did not see this step.
Thanks! It's a kill switch. It may have been added to the kit later. Really more of a "nice to have" since you can just turn off the fuel to kill the genny, but the switch is more immediate.
@@CanispaterChristmas When the kill switch is added, the harness modifies the factory on-off switch so it only cuts off the gasoline. This way the factory switch cuts off gasoline when you are using propane. To shut when running on gasoline, you can use the factory switch to cut the gas flow and permit the carburetor bowl to run dry, so you're not leaving gas in it to gum up.
@@eegg6954 Cool. I think I have a bad fuel pump in mine. Runs great on propane. Used it recently unfortunately (snowpacalypse), but it worked great. Thanks for the info! 👍
@@CanispaterChristmas Clean out the carburetor before you assume it's something more...
@@eegg6954 Yeah, did that. Looked good. Suspect the fuel pump, but converted to propane so not really worried about it now.
What is the part number and model of the small regular? Where does the jet that was in the o-ring container get installed?
Not sure. It was a complete kit. You might want to get in touch with Clayton for specifics on the kit/parts. Nice guy. Very helpful.
The jet in the o-ring container would replace the existing jet in the carburetor, if u want to run it on natural gas. The jets for propane vs natural gas have a different orifice size, hence the need to change the jet when switching from propane to natural gas, or vice versa.
what is the electrical switch for (do) ?
Haha. It's a kill switch, but I never use it. I just shut the gas off.
Some logical thinking RE: Propane. Honda makes propane engines. Honda makes gasoline engines. Honda makes bi- and tri-fuel engines. Many times, they're different options for the same engine. Do you think they use different materials for all three, costing more in machining and development? No. At least not in modern versions of these engines. The fuel ports and mix controls are the only differences, and as you can see, they're interchangeable in many cases. Saying it will damage a modern engine to convert it to propane is like saying adding an electric starter will damage it.
Propane burns cleaner than gasoline, but is less energy dense so 🤷♂️
It has everything to do with E.P.A. regs and certain states won’t allow it to sell there unless it is compliant. Honda probably doesn’t want to manufacture a unit that can’t be sold in California and others. It’s a ridiculous mess.
Can you run this Honda generator inside a home without any Fumes
No. Do not run a generator inside.
Only if you want to die.
@@katelights lol!😂
Hi,
Glad that you mentioned those videos where the persons created a time bomb, and yo showed the right way to do it. I have a Predator from Harbor Freight, can I convert that one into a propane one too? Thanks
Thanks! Contact Clayton to see if there is a kit for that specific generator. Some parts may be a little different.
In the beginning, the choke wasn't used. Duh! These Honda's are pretty reliable if you follow directions.
It was a joke.
First 10 mins was great. Would have liked narration of what u were doing on the last 6 mins.
Thanks for the feedback! The included instructions are pretty straightforward and Clayton is extremely helpful if you get confused on what to do.
Awesome video. I am going to contact Hutch Mountain and ask if I can use this on my 1000W Honda Generator. everything looks the same, I think it is the same carburetor.
Thanks! Clayton will help you out. He's awesome!
I wonder how long the generator will run on one full propane tank . I have the same unit. I thinks it runs 8 hrs on full gas tank.
Not sure. The load will affect runtime. 8hrs seems familiar, but I forget what load they used.
hahah great intro!!!! nice video editing 👌 👍
👍
I noticed at 14:48 in the video you have what looks like the original on off sticker on the unit but you show that you took it off and added another one the company provided. Is that because your generator doesn't have the new on off switch that was add because of the recall ? Because you don't have the new 3 way switch that allows you to turn off just the gasoline flow to the carb you had to add the on off switch to the top of the unit to allow you to switch off the gasoline pump before you can turn on the propane . The sticker you added and then removed should only be added if you have the new 3 way switch installed . Why didn't you say anything about this in the video ? If you unit is part of the recall you should not just add the on off switch at the top . You have to get the new 3 way switch installed and use the included sticker you had on but later removed. As you can read on the new sticker when you turn the switch all most all the way off they added gasoline off area. When you turn the switch to that area it does what the switch you added at the top does. All the units that don't have the 3 way switch have been recalled and should be replaced because they can leak fuel. Here is a link to the recalled units.powerequipment.honda.com/support/recalls-and-updates .
The spark-interrupt switch was included in the propane conversion kit. You can use it to turn off the generator or just switch off the propane (probably a better idea anyway) and let it run out of fuel. The generator runs with the fuel switch in the off position while running on propane.
Only the EU2200's have the three position switch. The EU2000 has a two position switch.
HOW COME YOUR PROPANE TANK IS SO DIRTY ? :))
It's a rental. 😂
wait/////at the end 14:47..you cranked a generator still using gas?....i saw the old sticker on and off...what?????and you already installed the new sticker....what going on?
That was using propane, not gasoline.
What about using one of your “ball bungees” to attach the hose to the handle?
That might work, but the regulator and hose are pretty heavy so I got a re-useable wire-tie.
Thank you very much for the video. Is this immediately ready to disconnect from propane and hook to natural gas? Also, what is life expectancy of the generator with natural gas compared to gasoline or propane?
These are probably better answered by Clay at Hutch Mountain, but I think so and no clue. I'm not aware of any special connection for natural gas so it would be as simple as shutting the generator down, disconnecting the propane, connecting the natural gas and starting the generator. Also, not sure if there is a life expectancy difference just for different fuels.
What I have read and heard from people who converted gasoline engines to propane or NG is that the oil will not get dirty. One friend says his oil stays looking new now (in his truck on propane). Everything I have read says the engine will last longer.
Where can I purchase this kit?
Check the video description. Links in there.
Anyone know if the performance changes in cold weather, my primary use is ice fishing in northern Minnesota.
I have no experience there, but give Clayton a call. He's always been extremely helpful and would likely have the right answer.
any difference in performance? also, what's the run time on a full 20 lbs tank? thank you!
Performance should be close enough unless you are running it hard. Propane has less energy than gas so 5 gal of gas will go farther than 5 gal of propane. Run time is based on the load so running it at the max will be less time than running it at 50% of the rated output. I've not run any tests to determine runtime. The biggest difference is not having to worry about the gasoline evaporating and gumming up everything, plus I can cook hamburgers with the same fuel. :) I also like that I can still use gasoline if I run out of propane. Hutch Mountain may have more information than I do. Plus they are super nice and eager to help.
OK, At the beginning of this video you forgot to use the CHOKE!
It was a joke.
Zombie apocalypse? I think you mean Covid19 plus fire prevention rolling blackouts lol
Haha. This was before all that.
The thread rap that you use I believe should be Yellow in color not white. They sell the yellow Propane< Natural Gas tape in the plumbing area at Lowes etc. Not sure what the difference is but, I'm wondering why Hutch Mountain didn't include it with the kit.
As long as you are trying to run an appliance by using the generator you should be ok. Running it through an electric panel would cause a electric back flow into your electric grid. ( NOT GOOD)
I would look into getting a bigger propane tank. They used to sell a 100gallon tank at Lowes. Usually kept outside with riding mowers out front.
Remember once someone finds out ya got something they need that small generator might grow some walking legs in the middle of the night. Look into getting something call (ground anchor) (model# is50017)
Keep up the good work < Lower Alabama said that>
Thanks! These were pre-wrapped so I'll let Hutch chime in if he's watching. The genny will not be grid-tied so no issues there. I have a 40lb tank, but again, this is just for emergencies (we have excellent power from the city otherwise) so the propane will be used for outdoor heating and grilling normally. As for security, I have dogs. lol!
The teflon we use is a specialty tape certified for both natural gas & lpg. Being grey it also looks good! Back in the day, you could only buy gas tape in yellow. Thanks for the comment. :)
ok video. 50% useless talk . S Sgt Friday said: Just give me the facts mam
Roger. Thanks for the feedback. Some like the additional info. Some don't.