Fashion and Punk Part 2: Undercover by Jun Takahashi

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  • Part 2 of my series about punk music and its relationship with fashion. This time talking about Jun Takahashi's Undercover
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    Duster- Gold Dust
    Sunny Day Real Estate- In Circles
    The Smiths- These Things Take Time

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  • @GoofyTHPS
    @GoofyTHPS 5 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    When you talked about SS03 Scab, you could’ve mentioned the Crust punk subculture, as the patching style is taken directly from how crustpunks used to customize their clothing

    • @unknownguest
      @unknownguest 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Liiikno
      My

  • @svartling7251
    @svartling7251 5 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Man the quality of these videos are actually great

  • @pvrq_s7881
    @pvrq_s7881 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    to newer viewers, in SS03 Scab Jun references a band called Sedition's and their LP "Earth-beat". The cover of the LP can be seen as graphics across the models and accessories. It's also important to note that the LP used tribal music in their music, Jun also references this with tribal motifs through the collection such as beads and arm rings accessories.

  • @Tassanamm
    @Tassanamm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    when you said television is white young thug I died

  • @cjmp200
    @cjmp200 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Man I’m happy to have found this channel.

  • @iameverywhere260
    @iameverywhere260 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I am Amused How This Dude Just speaks for 20 Minutes Straight of Pure Facts

  • @eddiewilliams18
    @eddiewilliams18 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Bro im literally doing a whole segment of punks influence on fashion for my course this is so helpful.

  • @mortalmannequin4091
    @mortalmannequin4091 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You know ur a god if you got duster as the background music

  • @louis1307
    @louis1307 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love you vids!!!! keep it up. Keep making juicy content for me!!

  • @sidneytitus-glover5546
    @sidneytitus-glover5546 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    came to this channel to learn about raf but stayed bc of the quality of these vids

  • @skapunkoialternativeliving6522
    @skapunkoialternativeliving6522 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Punk rock is a way of life it's not a fashion statement though a lot of people taking Punk and turned it into fashion just like skinheads and rude boys and all the other movements people have made profit from Britain turn into a fashion that's life I guess....

    • @jimmyjazz3971
      @jimmyjazz3971 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Exactly! These people think spending 1000s on a ripped shirt is punk which is the furthest thing from punk possible. Punk is an attitude not just style

    • @skapunkoialternativeliving6522
      @skapunkoialternativeliving6522 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jimmyjazz3971 you're so right I could take back to myself in America to people of paying $300 for ripped jeans seriously.... you're so right I've been saying this myself... it's not about fashion attitude and way of life like you said and I said....

    • @jimmyjazz3971
      @jimmyjazz3971 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ska punk OI! alternative living Yep! Exactly, glad to see that there’s still some proper classic Punks like you around!!

    • @skapunkoialternativeliving6522
      @skapunkoialternativeliving6522 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jimmyjazz3971 thank you my friend I try to base to be as real as possible but of course like everything else things do change fashion changes and people jump on the bandwagon and turn it into a fashion statement but this is nothing new... this type of stuff has been going on for years it's just up to you to keep it real that's all and I do my part to do so I'm more of a political type punk ... and I live at my van part-time and I will accrue so I live simple trying to get away from their grade and the system so I can do my party now..

    • @jimmyjazz3971
      @jimmyjazz3971 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ska punk OI! alternative living the best way to live, create your own rules!

  • @bregson
    @bregson 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Meme saint laurent? This dude is famous

  • @bbbybch5410
    @bbbybch5410 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great work thanks for naming the specific bands and inspirations, I love how detailed this video was

  • @stoss-11
    @stoss-11 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    YOU SHOULD DO ONE ON ENFANTS YOUR KNOWLEDGE IS FIRE

  • @FelipeLima-pg9rw
    @FelipeLima-pg9rw 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In circles outro hard

  • @ethanmiller631
    @ethanmiller631 ปีที่แล้ว

    we're ready to talk about the early days of undercover pls

  • @jackw8876
    @jackw8876 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Good video Karsten! I was wondering, did Jun Takahashi ever ask permission for any of the collections? I was thinking of picking up a shirt from his Neu! collection but I would feel pretty guilty if Jun never paid Neu! in the first place.

    • @karstenkroening
      @karstenkroening  5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Jackem The Person he does ask permission! Many of the artwork he uses now our actual collaboration and the artist is paid. In recent years he has gotten better at this.

    • @jackw8876
      @jackw8876 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@karstenkroening that's cool considering I really like how he utilizes a lot of the artwork. Thanks for replying! (Also Duster in the background was really calming)

  • @DT.2024
    @DT.2024 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We will make undercover great again!

  • @MouthlyKnives
    @MouthlyKnives 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    was the sedition influence of scab not an actual punk reference? its pretty rooted in the design and visuals. also none of television members saw any momey from the "collab" he just lifted them.

  • @josefk5659
    @josefk5659 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tom Verlaine wrote and sang every song on Adventure except for one which he co-wrote with Richard Hell. And they aren't a punk band by any stretch of the imagination. They are a rock band.

  • @akiraasmr3002
    @akiraasmr3002 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Richard Hell and the Voidoids The Blank Generation was used by Undercover. Also when Richard Hell was the front man of the Heartbreakers had a photoshoot with a bloodshot shirt that influences Hedi Slimane for his bloodwound shirts in the Boys Dont Cry SS2002 Collection. And RIchard Hell also influenced the punk style of the Sex Pistols because Malcolm McLaren saw Richard Hell in New York and was heavily inspired by his style and took it back to the UK to create the punk style in the UK and used it for the Sex Pistols style.

  • @kennyayon7971
    @kennyayon7971 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really great👏

  • @johngalliano7176
    @johngalliano7176 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Keep going bruh 🔥 but the song becomes silly after 5 min try to change a lil bit

  • @fortnite_legendary_scar6469
    @fortnite_legendary_scar6469 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    when people elevate and interpret punk style in clothing its the best thing ever, maybe im bias but I cannot seem to not like it when punk is referenced.

  • @itaintadam
    @itaintadam 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    About straight up music references Takahashi made, there’s Undercover/Talking Heads pieces with graphics from their lyrics and albums (although they’re new wave they do integrate punk elements in their music and it can clearly be seen in the collection)
    Great video though!

  • @iChikyIntros
    @iChikyIntros 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello! Nice video but could you make a youtube playlist of this series? It would be much easier to follow when you have more videos?

  • @AfricanZebra3000
    @AfricanZebra3000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do a video on Marc Jacques Burton!!!

  • @a1xcx_wz
    @a1xcx_wz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    solid shirt i will say

  • @SargentDingelBerry
    @SargentDingelBerry 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video

  • @fansnunez9900
    @fansnunez9900 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Youre getting better at thi!!

  • @awfulman8055
    @awfulman8055 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brooo 🔥🔥🔥

  • @kenny4745
    @kenny4745 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fire

  • @verito98
    @verito98 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    lmao that young thug comparison will live in my head forever!!!!! idk if you just ruined Television for me, or made it better??

  • @fazefletcher4654
    @fazefletcher4654 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    what is the name of the first undercover show? not scab, but the one before that that karsten talks about?

  • @vampireknightfan
    @vampireknightfan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    HEY HOW DO I GROW MY HAIR DUDE I DONT KNOW HOW TO DO IT. (like you bro... like you dude...)

    • @chrishayes918
      @chrishayes918 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      just dont get a haircut for like a year

    • @CaTcHaFiShBiTcH
      @CaTcHaFiShBiTcH 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Show your hairdresser how you want it to look and they will cut it in a way that will grow out to that particular style. When is gets to a point you want to give up just go get it tidied up a bit and get some weight removed if thats an issue.

  • @-sheepes
    @-sheepes 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    crunchy edits

  • @thomashope6637
    @thomashope6637 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video Karsten but why do u smile at the camera so much

  • @bornsinnerxx
    @bornsinnerxx 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    finally (:

  • @Likeleonore
    @Likeleonore 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Like the video! Though not that much of a fan of the low-key daddy issue joke. It’s kinda generalising and not really what I am here for at your channel.
    Also didn’t Nigo and Takahashi call their store ‘Nowhere’?
    Keep it up though!

    • @huzairusakoir4853
      @huzairusakoir4853 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Leonore Boeke the literally holds true tho

    • @itaintadam
      @itaintadam 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did Takahashi name his store after Ride’s classic shoegaze album?

  • @Fivzdhmmllmb
    @Fivzdhmmllmb 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:15 song name??

  • @shiponeunus3527
    @shiponeunus3527 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    wats the song at the end

    • @Infametheus
      @Infametheus 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "In Circles" by Sunny Day Real Estate

  • @saibot1221
    @saibot1221 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    you mad cute

  • @estherzhang8878
    @estherzhang8878 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi my name is Karsten Kroening and lEtS tAlk aBoUt stuUuuUufFfFF

  • @marcosloriggio8350
    @marcosloriggio8350 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are so cute

  • @odyssey.studios
    @odyssey.studios 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yo this series pretty good man keep it up. Also check out my latest short film if you have a second x

  • @SoakinginEntrails
    @SoakinginEntrails 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bape>undercover

    • @jackw8876
      @jackw8876 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Modern Bape is just hypebeast fodder now with little substance in my opinion. I feel like Undercover has a much wider variety and styles.

    • @SoakinginEntrails
      @SoakinginEntrails 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Jackem The Person true, really I meant bape up until nigo left. It’s now just the same shitty collabs and basic designs. Current bape is more a kids clothing brand than a street brand.

    • @jackw8876
      @jackw8876 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@SoakinginEntrails Nigo is a fantastic designer and I agree that early Bape has some great pieces in it.

    • @SoakinginEntrails
      @SoakinginEntrails 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jackem The Person and yeah undercover current state is 100x better. Ss20 made me cream.