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- Join us for this special episode of Louder With Crowder. In this live installment of our “Change My Mind” series, we take to the streets of Illinois to discuss the evil that is socialism. Also talking 2nd Amendment and much more!
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What do you think? Is Socialism immoral? Where do you draw the line? And thanks to everyone who showed up! Standing in the mud for hours just to watch two people disagree. Was an awesome experience. Next time, we’ll bring the whole shebang!
In a word, yes.
StevenCrowder i draw the line at dont steal my hard earned money that i had to work hard to get!!!
“The goal of socialism IS communism”
-Vladimir Lenin
The government can’t play robin hood. If it tries to then nobody can truly be successful.
1.7M subscribers, man I remember when it was less than 100K, crazy how popular you have become in so little time, keep up the great work, it's really paying off!
I like how Yusef would say like three words and Steven is like "whoa whoa slow down with your paragraphs trying to sound all smart"
He didn't prove socialism isny evil or change his mind that's the whole point
That only happened one time
it happened about 3 or 4 times
I like how he expects simple answers to complex questions and when yusuf starts explaining what he means Crowder immediately changes the subject and says he isn't sticking to topic. Its sad.
People just don’t understand socialism. We have socialism now except it goes to the people who don’t have jobs. Real socialism would help everyone
Crowder wtf man? Why did you stop the discussion with Yousef? This was one of your best opponents. He didn't insult you either.
And who cares if he did? Crowder insulted him over and over. He even called him stupid toward the end. Phrasing it in terms like "I wouldn't say you're ... " is still insulting him, we're all smart enough to see that.
Jeremy Thomas Totally agree man. I noticed Crowded kept rephrasing the point Yousef meant. I think this was to give him time to think of a response. I still enjoy Crowder and acknowledge he's way smarter than I am but I would have like to have seen this go the distance
Because views
no shit, he profits off the ideas he espouses because it serves as a source of confirmation for those that hold the same belief. Why would he be open to adopting a stance that doesn't align with his audience's beliefs regardless of the veracity of the beliefs? This is the same tactic that fox news (Tucker Carlson specifically) adopts. It's all about the $$$ not truth.
The Patriotic Nobody has
I feel like these are better without such big crowds..
Yeah the wooping really holds the actual discussions back.
Darius Gray The crowd was extremely annoying and tried to be funny but instead just ended up acting like a giant shadow of crowder
Darius Gray I agree, was not the same as the others and didn’t seem like “change my mind”
i dont think anyone actually thinks these are better with big crowds, as they said this wasnt planned.
I agree, but at the same time the whole show got railroaded by the School. So in lieu of the proper show, I liked it; understanding however that the proper live show would have been better.
damn crowder actually accused the kid of "trying to sound smart by talking in paragraphs" but he is talking way longer on each point, kept interrupting him, accused him of indecent speech and behavior, and used crowd bullying tactics to own the situation without actually putting out valid counter arguments.
This made me lose the respect i had for him. the kid actually had some interesting points
@@akantorsuka yeah mate same thing with me when I first watched this.
Crowder ✡️ fears a socialist that is a nationalist
Yeah the whole pretense of these events is he's there to have his mind changed, but it's a false pretense because he's completely uninterested in hearing what the person has to say.
interesting how youre bring up such an important topic 4 years later...i wonder why??
Yusuf got him on this one tbh. If it is 'Change My Mind' then you have be open to the slight possibility of that happening. Rather than digging in, cutting him off, or getting unnecessarily defensive about a word like 'autistic'. It's ok to concede sometimes.
Just my feedback. Great series!
Zuby this is a good and fair comment. Keeping it positive and relevant.
www.change.org/p/steven-crowder-get-yusef-back-on-youtube
Yep i used to agree in some Steven Subjects, but ge got rekt it was clearly that he was not willing to change his mind even if he could not explain himself properly in that instance. He even got triggered when he always complain about "leftards sensitive people".
True
I don’t think it’s about who “got” who, or who won the debate. It mostly boils down to fundamental beliefs. I agree he doesn’t really seem willing to change his mind even if he says he is. However, in the end, this is a conversation. And I think if Yusuf changed our mind, that’s great! If Steven changed your mind, that’s great! But I think the point of the video is to clearly state both viewpoints. If you think Yusuf won the debate, then I think the video served it purpose lol I guess my point is, this isn’t a win or lose debate. It’s supposed to be a civil conversation about opposing views, even if this convo kind of went uncivil rather quickly haha
Having a rant about the word autistic to dismiss another person's chance to speak. Not very admirable I think.
tariq In the informal early 20th century sense it’s “originally with reference to a condition in which fantasy dominates over reality”
The Truth of the Matter the term “autists” isn’t the proper name for people who have autism... it’s a slang word that’s meant as an offense
He honestly seems a little bit autistic. Barely made eye contact.
He actually stated a person who uses logic is autistic as if logic didn't lead to truth when it's by definition a method of analysis of the truth value of sentences.
Logic and rationalism lead to false conclusions all of the time. @@legendasbr3211
Yusef was a stone cold, well spoken, terminator. He owned Crowder, BADLY. Crowder had a meltdown at 23:03 that he should not have let happen. 'Shill' was an embarrassing word to be triggered by and suggesting Yusef was being rude... focusing way too much on trivial words like that in his emotional tirade. Even having to debrief the crowd afterwards to try and recover. Cringe! Change his mind or not, Yusef obliterated!
@@fallenxangel105 no...you thought he won. But he didn't actually address the argument. He would make a fallacy then change subjects and went on long winded rants that were not about the debate issue.
@@infopocalypse5006 How did he go on "long winded rants" when crowder barely would let him finish a sentence before pulling the mic away. Lol. You are literally describing the actions of the person you are trying to defend. Projection at its finest
John Adams said " "Avarice will break this Constitution like a whale breaks through a net" and he said "This Constitution (or government, can't remember which right now) is only for a moral and religious people and is wholly inadequate for the governing of any other". Morality and self-sacrifice can't be legislated and forced through socialism because it always ends up worse, sometimes MUCH WORSE; so we've got to figure out how to influence people to change in order to save the Republic.
TheFirstCause ssssss
using the work 'autistic' to begin with is not very admirable.
Damn, I'm not even a socialist and even I have to admit that Yusuf simply destroyed Crowder in this exchange.
You must be high
@@skinnie2838 on da truth pills baybeee cuz it's true, Steven got cooked
@@emulatorisland7417 Crowder didnt get cooked here. Cope more.
@@skinnie2838He didn’t get cooked, he got destroyed. Particularly when he couldn’t defend the point that public roads, bridges, and highways are socialism. The fact that he’s prancing around college campuses looking for debates is already embarrassing enough on its own.
I’m a libertarian and I’m slightly autistic 🤷🏻♂️ I’d like to have a long form conversation as Yusif!
How was Yusef rude? You were never rude to your guests no matter how offensive or rude they were to you up until this point. He's holding his own ground. He barely interrupted you and he gave you the same patience and courtesy you've given your previous guests. You don't have to call him out on being a dick or being rude to you, giving off such distasteful body language, and picking at his vocabulary which wasn't even directed to offend you personally. When you have a discussion with someone who has a different view point from yours, you already risk being offended and I thought you of all people would know that and would have kept it 'civil,' as you always had. I share a lot of your view points and I don't fully understand all these concepts, which is why I like watching your debates because you're thorough in your opinions, but this was terrible to watch.
y'all???? speak English
You've never heard of a contraction? Lmfao go back to 2nd grade
Regine Santiago I couldnt agree more. Whats ur IG??
the big Cartel how u got Ne-Yo as ur avi and criticize “yall”? meatwad
he was clearly rude lol... sly rudeness... smart guy with a plan coming in. cool to see bc crowder doesnt usually get those
Kid: *breaths*
Crowder: *define breathing*
You have to get real specific with the Bernie Sanders crowd.
They spend a great deal of time in Fantasyland.
@@TheRayKid101 You seem to like to separate sentences with commas.
@@ognir66 conservatives seem to spend all their time chasing morals, good and bad via theory and some dreamland utopia instead of striving to make good in the actuall world we live in.
@@ognir66 and the change my mind guy was wrong about Denmark's tax rate, so factually he is far from clean himself. That's what happens when you decide what you believe and then go looking for facts instead of learning about a subject and then forming an opinion. Then he would learn that Denmark has a flat regional tax and progressive(borderline exponential with a cap off) national tax.
@@SicknastyFPS Thank you for noticing one of my scholarly traits. :)
Yusef well done..Most people just say things without understanding what they are saying, you had an answer for every question and was calm and collected.
Jonas Andersen except the only points he brought up were hypothetical and philosophical. He never brought up any valid and practical points for socialism and just bashed capitalism
@@a7xdisturbed774 Thats technicaly enough.
@@a7xdisturbed774 He actually did bring up some decent points. But he could hardly make any of them because Steven took the mic away before he could barely muster a sentence! One point he brought up was great, let me explain, I'll give you the definition of socialism "a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole."
Yusef brought up that government funding of things like the police force is inherently, as least a bit socialist. And Steven tried to debunk this by saying things like the police force are a social good, so it doesn't count. But there is no distinction in the true definition that makes any note of public goods or commodities. So here, Steven is kinda just pulling things out of his ass.
The government simply taking, and redistributing is in fact, a socialist ideology, period. Welfare is 100% socialist, and it is necessary to a certain degree (people who are truly disabled, needy, temporarily unemployed/laid off) Steven is just nitpicking here and trying to make his own definitions for things. This young man isn't a socialist, he is just saying that not all parts of socialism is evil. Which I agree with.
In a truly Capitalistic society you have a lot of problems, there is typically a huge divide between the poor and wealthy class, and virtually no middle class. And in a truly capitalistic society, your market will eventually crumble as the wealthy get too rich and greedy, the majority of poor cannot afford anything, and there is no wealth distribution. It causes everyone to go bankrupt almost immediately.
The truth is, America is partially socialist in many ways. When you take a bowl of Capitalism, and sprinkle in just a bit of socialism, it works.
Also, imagine a small indigenous tribe with 100 people or so. They will most likely be socialist by definition. They will be sharing things, distributing goods to each other, and helping one another out in order to survive as a whole. Anyone who takes too much and doesn't give anything back will probably be shunned. I don't think this is inherently evil. It is necessary for their survival.
I think if Yusef was given a chance to talk, you would see that he isn't a socialist. He just believes some socialistic ideology is necessary. Steven also tried to put him in a box several times, berated him for using words like "chill" and "autistic" to disprove his entire points, which is something that the left love to do! Tried to create his own definitions, told Yusef that he talks in paragraphs (look how much Steven talks) and flat out lied many times (Germany has a minimum wage, and Norway does too, but in the form of negotiations made by trade unions)
@@a7xdisturbed774 You can't even judge Yusef's points because Crowder didn't give him enough time to substantiate any one of his arguments. Anyone uneducated would think Crowder 'won' this debate because he was always snatching the mic away from Yusef. Pathetic.
Melissa Morgan no crowder just realized that point wasn’t going to go anywhere. Anyone educated would know that the points he made were purely hypothetical with no practicality. Also Yusuf was extremely rude and pretentious towards crowder. Yusuf can be calm and use all the big words he wants but he still lost
Yusef fucking wrecked him.
No
@@Penguinzero1 yes
@@TheJohnCooperShow no
@@zyradium yes
@@TheJohnCooperShow no
Crowder is resorting to bullying tactics because that Yusef dude is actually well-informed and isn't the SJW snowflake he is used to. Poor show man, I had more respect for him before this.
Honestly, I have no idea how can anyone respect Crowder in a first place. His whole strategy is cherry-picking teenagers or people in their early 20's who know jackshit about economics and social dogmas to appear superior in comparison. This kid is certainly bright, but he is still an intellectual light-weight (no doubt he will become much better with age tho), and it was already enough to showcase how silly Crowder is in reality. He wouldn't last 5 seconds against actual left-wing intellectuals.
MrKosobi like who Bernie? 😂
@@mansfield360 you don't know that there are left-wing intellectuals? In what kind of echo chamber do you live in oO There are FAR more left-wing intellectuals than right-wing.
MrKosobi I think we should stop spending money on new military equipment and instead save the money up for a budget when we need it and start using money to research more advance technologies so when we go to war we can have a safety net of money we can use to build better equipment that will last longer I think clean energy and civil engineering is needed for future to be good but I don’t agree with globalization it would only slow us down in figuring out world problems same with micro aggressions and forcing equal demographics we should employ the best people not choose people based on their race progressives lately are doing the exact opposite
@@MrKosobi yusef may not be well known but he certainly didn't appear a lightweight. He correctly pointed out that if Crowder wanted to stick to his definition of evil, i.e. redistributing something not earned as morally reprehensible, any redistribution is immoral, no matter whether it's a good or a commodity. That is intellectually sharp for me. And frankly it left Crowder hiding for cover under misdirection.
Don’t like how Crowder handled Yousef saying autistic, he held it against him then cut him off with it. Sounded like a true offended SJW
J_Smith-26 do people not understand that Crowder is a right wing SJW. Talk about psychological projection with him
The part where Yusef the Autistic shill tries to propose Sweden, Norway and Denmark as examples of Socialist countries that work? Only that the PM of Denmark corrected Bernie Sanders in saying that they AREN’T a socialist country? Or where Sweden uses school vouchers but Yusef the Austist doesn’t like that idea? Or where he doesn’t support an increase in taxes on the middle class and lower class, which is exactly what these socialist countries he tries to use as good example of socialism do? When confronted with the reality of what they actually do, he says they “should change it”.... He also doesn’t support decreasing the corporate tax, which again is what they do in Denmark, Sweden and Norway.
So at what point did he make any good statements that don’t contradict himself? He literally had NO argument of supportive facts. He disagreed with the policies of these “socialist” countries he propped up as examples. Even though they aren’t socialist countries to begin with... haha
And you still wonder why Crowder had to end it after all this kid’s backtracking and name calling? J_Smith-26
Stephen Johnson dude shut your bitch ass up your boy got wrecked
Dylan Barlow L
@@harryc8184 Stephen Johnson brought up good points and all you have to say is "shut your bitch ass up." Great discussion.
I am a Crowder fan, but everytime Yusef tried to make a good point Steven would take the mic away.
Not true.
@@liamscott1905 You have convinced me.
@@liamscott1905 Good way to argue m8. Do you have a binder for your facts?
What good points? I’m confused. He was deflecting with all these “ big words” and Crowder was making him explain it, because that’s the tactic of the left. They either scream and get emotional or use all these “ big words” to confuse people. A lot like politicians.
What good points ?
Steven displayed his ignorance, stupidity and arrogance when harassing Yusef. This dude is clearly a very well educated and intelligent young man, Steven displayed his lack of formal education because he cannot grasp Yusef’s points. Steven was clearly outclassed.
Well, they both screwed up right at the beginning in regards to the definition of socialism. "Socialism is where the state redistributes wealth", is completely wrong. Those are social programs - kinda similar names, but very different. Socialism is the state ownership of the means of production - i.e. Private business is not allowed. You can have varying degrees of socialism - full socialism like in the USSR or North Korea where you can't even own your own lemonade stand, or partial socialism where the state owns key industries like oil, gas, heavy manufacturing, but private enterprise is still tolerated elsewhere. A lot of Western European countries tried that in the 60s and 70s. But socialism, both full and partial, has proven to be a disaster in every single country it has been tried in. It fails because a) government bureaucrats suck at managing businesses, b) government bureaucrats have a natural mindset that avoids change and improvements of products and services - a government car manufacturer will make the same car for 50 years unless forced to change, either by the threat of imports or simply the machine tooling wearing out. I saw a shoe factory in Bulgaria in around 1990, where the tooling for left foot shoes broke down. But they had quotas to meet, so they simply shipped thousands of pairs of shoes, and in each box were two shoes for the right foot. THAT is socialism.
@@acfiv1421I'm not reading all that BS
@@Salisky Why advertise your ignorance? If you don't want to read it, simply don't read it and move on.
@@acfiv1421if it makes you feel better, I read it
@@acfiv1421 no, socialism is a classless and stateless society.
I think Yusef was just too intelligent for Crowder, and I am a fan of his. Yousef was really out of Crowder's league here. Yusef did a really good job making his arguments and maintained a calm demeanor.
yea bouy nope. I am a DIE HARD Ron Paul Republican. You know what they say about assuming?
Add a 'yeeeehaaawww' next time DeezNeez01
You're an idiot. #Cardcarryingidiot
Yusef and Ben Shapiro next! 👍
www.change.org/p/steven-crowder-get-yusef-back-on-youtube
"This isn't a performance, this a conversation between us"
*Continues to look at crowd for support*
LOL exactly crowder is a bigger hypocrite than the libertards he hates so much.
billy phillips Why are you tripping so hard? The dude is trying to win a debate. The crowd needs to be on your side to do so
Because he is talking to the crowd! Like Jesus Christ... some people 🙈🥴
@@tylerkrepps1530 He's trying to win over his watchers in the crowd and the video and he can't do it without having complete control of the argument
you are IQ sub 50
That was awful, lost the first debate and removed the kid. There is no point of the show if you're reluctant to changing your mind or accepting the other persons views
James Ghazanfar no shit, he profits of the ideas he espouses because it serves as a source of confirmation for those that hold the same belief. Why would he be open to adopting a stance that doesn't align with his audience's beliefs?
Mate its called change my mind he can chat whatever crud he wants but if hes not 'open' to others opinions in the aim to have his mind changed then why even bother with the show and its name.
www.change.org/p/steven-crowder-get-yusef-back-on-youtube
Because that's what he promotes. Open conversations, attaining the possibility to adopt another stance, are what he claims the 'change my mind' series is about.
'The True Geordie'
"I think you are getting mad because you are loosing a debate." Destruction.
>misspelling an easy word like "losing"
DeStRuCtIoN.
@@AppleOfThineEyeu mad lollll
@@PontiacSunfires Why would I be mad at someone that incompetent?
LoLlLlL
@@AppleOfThineEye idk im sorry 🥺 i didnt mean to offend u im sorry it wont happen again ill be quiet now 🥺🥺
@@PontiacSunfires You wish you had the power to offend so easily.
🥺🥺🥺🥺
That Yusuf kid was really smart. I felt like Steven was trying really hard to change Yusuf's mind, rather than the other way around. I don't like how Steven conducted the debate with him.
Steven immediately recognized he was intelectually outmatched big time. It was almost like he was looking for approval on this one.
What drugs are you on?
Matthew Forslund TLDR.
Learn to use a comma fuck stick
Matthew Forslund are you talking about when he said shill?
Because if you were actually listening to Yousefs substantives then you must recognise he is far more knowledgable than most.
It speaks for itself when Crowder literally ended the debate in fear and latched onto the use of the word “Autistic” instead of the actual arguments; no doubt because he knew he’d already lost.
I do think that Yosef has a point that big businesses hinder society, and that large economic inequality does provoke violence. I do think there is a solution that will help. That is to ban all lobbying. And prosecute lobbying. I don’t know if there are rules and laws that already do that in a sense. I am not educated in that area, except that in the book The Chickenshit Club, there is a grand historical documentation of corrupt leadership in our legal prosecution system, where the repetitive example is of the defense bar of the United States Lawyers Defense Bar Association ( I made that name to make it easy for people not educated in what a defense bar is) is retaliatory against the prosecuting Attorney General, or the lawyers who prosecute, every single time they went after executives of big businesses, and also when they prosecute their enablers (the certified public accountants, high level managers of banks overseeing transactions). The retaliation is so vast, that since the 90’s and early 2000’s, there has been widespread fear among the prosecutors (lawyers working for the government) that is they prosecute too hard, they lose their careers. Why is this obvious? That is easy; notice that these lawyers no longer prosecute the executives. The lawsuits of today’s big businesses prosecution is a fee that looks like a slap on the wrist, and even bailing out the guilty corporations. No executives go to prison today, in a practical and impactful leven that discourages stupidity like selling securities backed by crap mortgages. And this happens because the defense bar makes a profit from retaliating against the prosecution of big businesses, and so the Bar Associations is a puppet of large businesses with executives sticking their hands up the defense bar’s behinds and having them do their bidding. It comes down to the incredibly huge profits that corporations pay the defense lawyers. Prosecutors never come close to half a fraction of the income these defense lawyers make. Thus, the defense attorneys are overcompensated while the prosecution is under funded, underemployed, and low in morale. The bar association for lawyers have a huge influence on law, because though they don’t make them, they interpret them and choose how and what to enforce.
As you can see, my answer is not socialist, but rather to support the objective role of the government under a capitalist nation. When organizations like Bar Associations for Attorneys is influenced by large businesses, it no longer is capable of objectivity. They are biased.
Notice another example, which is large communication businesses moving to control and censor internet use by means of compensating or financially denying profits according to that businesses interest. You think the prosecuting attorneys can properly defend the people when there is a violation against citizens rights to access to information? Though some will argue that information is a privilege, not a right. How about the platform or the availability to information? Some may even argue that a platform for information is also a privilege. I disagree, and I bet the defense bar will agree.
Further, the problem is that compensating defense lawyers isn’t known as lobbying. Lobbying is to pay for making or taking down laws. But few people see that paying for the interpretation and bias of prosecution or defense relating to this laws are also corporate influence. It is lot lobbying only because the definition in the dictionary doesn’t agree with it, but for practical purposes it is indeed lobbying. It is the corporate influence in how to and what to interpret of the law.
Holy crap Crowder... LET YUSEF SPEAK. You interrupted him every time the kid tried to make a point. You get 6 inches away from his face, wave your hand around and you were the one that played to the crowd. You really came off as condescending and you had the balls to tell him that he was being disrespectful?
Also, he wasn’t saying that you were autistic... He was saying a certain idea was autistic. Instead of tying who you are with what you believe and getting offended (which is the way someone you usually make fun of would act like) you actually listen and take in what the person talking was saying like a REAL CONVERSATION. You were the one that was acting like you were in a big crowd of people, not him.
You constantly steered the conversation the way that you wanted it and the way you were prepared for. If this would have been in a fair environment where BOTH people had a microphone then I wonder if you would have came out on top of this argument.
I’ve been a fan for a long time, but this is the lowest I’ve ever thought of you. #BringBackYusef
Seriously! I'm a fan but Crowder was very aggressive, almost trying to intimidate. Also the way he used the word "autistic" wasn't as an insult, but as a synonym for pedantic. #BringBackYousef
How does exactly idea of libertariaism is related to this medical condition? Let's face it, Crowder wasn't polite, but Yusef hadn't had any good idea worth listening to in the first place.
www.change.org/p/steven-crowder-get-yusef-back-on-youtube
@@magnusmoty well Steven never gave him a chance. Steven was prepared, yet he was shocked by the kids level of general Intelligence.
Say what you want, but you can hear it when someone is sharp. And this kid was. Defined terms on the fly, held on to ideas Crowder had touched on and was able to redirect Crowder back to a point Crowder had made that he wanted to explore more.
Caught Steven on his failure to distinguish between public good and commodity in his original definition of Socialism.
A very good point, seeing as Steven was the one who wanted to be particular about defining everything.
Steven was shook all through the discussion, and wasn't able to follow his script. That's why he feigned being insulted and then proceeded to insult the kid multiple times. Yet the kid did not respond in kind. Except calling him out for being mad coz he was losing the debate.
@@diranshouse7061 Okay, Crowder didn't let him speak and this is bad. But I wonder, if Yusef's pro-socialist rhetoric is so good, why do we never see it anywhere else? Why don't socialists generally engage in debates, if there is this holy graal of real socialistic truth? Why don't socialists sit somewhere with banner saying "Socialism is good, change my mind" and gather views by debunking capitalists' viewpoints?
Crowder knew what he meant by shill and autistic. Yusef plainly has a well thought out argument whether it's correct or incorrect and came at an angle Crowder wasn't ready for... Don't pick on the dude for being smart
Ry Rez well dont throw out words like autistic and shill in a civil debate
Masta Killa crowder wanted to know if yuseph knew what those words meant. It was suppose to be civil. The fact that yuseph didnt even know what shill meant just goes to show you that he doesnt know what he is talking about. He is just spouting nonsense
Crowder getting hung up on the use of the word "autism" was so disengenous. Yusef obviously meant it as a synonym for "stupid", but Crowder decided to (ironically, quite autistically) steer the entire conversation away from socialism (conveniently when Yusef was making good points) and onto a semantic red herring.
What annoyed me was that he tried to take some sort of moral high ground and then swing back later with "Now the thing you just said is what YOU might call autistic!" and "Wow, what you're saying now, is what YOU might call stupid!"
Crowder likely pushed him on the definitions to highlight the fact that name calling is a departure from the topic. The kid was tasked with proving Socialism is great and he failed to convince me for one. Name calling is the lower form of argument without question.
well, Yusef obviously used the wrong synonym for stupid.
You can also tell how uncomfortable Steven is by the amount of times he turns around and interrupts to chat to the crowd as if they said something - but they didn't. He is trying to buy time to think....
Lol
yuuuuuuuup
I'm surprised Crowder even had the guts to use this footage. He embarrassed himself.
@@prisonerohope6970 they did something, listen. Much of the time they are actually talking to him. I agree with you though, he is stopping and speaking slow and not very straight, keeps repeating things, I get it. It's okay to think though, but it's that he's doing so to come up with a way to win the argument not just talk about what the truth might be.
@@HelloThere..... God is so Good! Whatever we do, let's do it with Love, because of Love, and in Christ. Because, in the end it won't matter if we win arguments. It will matter if we Loved people and tried to send them Safely on their way to Confident Relationship with God: Because of The Sacrifice! Love and in All Sincerity, Shandalay
Distraction in order to knock a person off their focus.
Yusef's IQ was too high to ride that ride, got kicked off.
Was funny when he used shill perfectly and got kicked off for it... If one shills for something, they back it enthusiasticly to convince others to do likewise
Connel Wilson and then crowder misused the words completely! I can't quote him exactly but it was something like "oh now you're getting hypothetical like you're autistic" when autism is being unable to grasp hypotheticals. He's more interested in busting chops than actually arguing, that much is clear, especially when he's losing. And then he's like "I'm not mad" when he obviously was. It was very hard to watch and I'm not even a fan. Very embarrassing.
Except Yusef first used "autistic" in a negative way describing it as leaning towards fantasy and hypotheticals. I feel like you weren't quite listening in the beginning and thats okay, not everyone fully listens to things that they find uninteresting. And as for "shill", the full definition was not used by your fellow commentors. Its more than enthusiastically backing things to convince others. For starters you have to be an accomplice of a hawker, gambler, or swindler to even be part of the definition.
Cory Washburn Why can't you quote him exactly when the quote is in the video you're commenting on, you fucking idiot.
I think Crowder was threatened, and that he was being a condescending asshole
I love how steven calls yousef out on speaking in paragraphs just to make himself sound smarter, when he does the same thing. Also why was he was so bothered by the use of autistic when he always rants about the importance of free speech in comedy. What a baby
Free speech IN COMEDY! Steven doesn't bring that to serious debates. Degenerates do.
Holy shit the people in this comment section are stupid.
@@KaosSakana you gotta be pretty dense to say that steven doesn't crack any jokes during these debates. The kid cracked one joke and Steven couldn't let it go
@@modelorpheus you must be pretty dense if you think a joke and an insult are the same thing.
@@KaosSakana the autistic line, whether you found it funny or not, was intended as a joke
@@modelorpheus the autistic line, whether it was intended as a joke or not, was a blatant insult that showed a lack of awareness for his environment and a lack of respect for the conversation. The conversation was meant to be a serious discussion. Quit bending over backwards to defend a degenerate.
This conversation would be different if there was two microphones. Change my mind
Flawess Grace Jordan Peterson: well, that depends on what you mean by microphone.
Mr Bell Well, from the Jugian archetypal idea of microphones that conclusion could be drawn, but the correct answer isn’t so obvious! What constitutes a microphone in terms of utility is manifold, and the hierarchical structure of that utility would point towards the type of microphone that would be needed for both people in the conversation, or if two microphones were needed at all. At any rate, I don’t think the equal distribution of microphones is the solution to this problem.
Painful to watch him abuse his position of Power holding the microphone. He just cannot shut up
alwins0n FACTS
@@outofthedumps *Grabs blunt* Can I have another, sir?
the saddest part, i was really into this discussion and learned more about the topic. suddenly you kicked him out. that was a very bad and sad move
The evil CCP has murdered 80 million of its own people since 1949. It is now torturing, organ harvesting and executing the 100 million Falun Gong who live in China, pure godless evil. The problem is that Wall Street spells human right$ like that, never exposing the true nature of the Satanic CCP.
His followers cant see he clearly isnt smart and cant handle someone smart that calls him out
This is his whole thing lol. If you can’t see that you haven’t been paying attention enough
@@Wopedomernah usually most of the people he encounters are idiots. I think in general he does a good job at exposing people for having straw man opinions.
However, its frustrating that when someone comes along who has good intellect and reasoning, he wont give them their fair shot. Its clear he wants to grab the most amount of idiots from the left possible to make himself look better because those are usually the people triggered by the signs.
In reality, this video topic is not one many blue haired morons are gonna get triggered by. Someone who disagrees with him is actually gonna have some facts behind what they say
Germany has a minimum wage not sure if he doesn’t know or lying on purpose
€9.35
@@Victory987 just a small thing: you put the € after the number. (nitpick I know)
@Cameron Sole yes, obviously. But humor me and tell me why
Depends on country
@@luckierloser The European Union did indeed usher a guideline on the use of the euro sign, stating it should be placed in front of the amount without any space in English, but after the amount in most other languages
“This is a conversation.
Just you and me.”
Continuously answers to the crowd and reacts to their banter.
Laughable
Honestly though
🤷🏾♂️
“Speaking in paragraphs” *barely lets him get a sentence in*
When you pepper your answer with sweet nicknames like autistic , etc., you don’t deserve to be heard anymore! It’s childish and rude.
@@smurfiennes If by “pepper” you mean the two instances where he says autistic and shill I would say that this debate was pretty unseasoned. I agree 100% that he should have refrained from saying that but that still doesn’t take away from the fact that instead of tackling his arguments Crowder diverts the conversation several times which is frustrating. Also you add “etc.” when you have more than two examples that can’t be listed.
@@smurfiennes only did it twice and made valid points
@@smurfiennes I thought Crowder and conservatives don't get offended?
Deadass crowder is really a dick who was losing and got mad
I would argue that the first kid is very informed and crowder was not ready for it. I enjoy crowders show but he can come off as very arrogant and condescending.
It's a habit of his when he starts to lose ground.
One might say, calling someone’s views “autisic” and “shill” might be arrogant and condescending
Well.... He IS French Canadian ;)
listen to it again
Steven spent over twice as much time talking as Yusef did then unironically accused him of talking in paragraphs, AKA "you're not letting me control the conversation and dissect literally everything you say D:" Steven prepares for days for these "debates" and literally brought a binder full of resources (lol). Yet Yusef was polite and waited for his turn to talk, despite constantly being interrupted and not being allowed to speak. Then Steven gets triggered at him using the word autistic (which by the way he didn't actually call Steven autistic) You can really see how triggered Steven was towards the end when he seeks reassurance from the audience and starts trash talking back at Yusef before booting him. The point of these videos is to make Steven look "smart" and therefore correct, but the moment someone more intelligent than him arrives Steven cuts the debate because he knows he's losing. It was pathetic honestly.
Well said
I think he was more mad about it being the first guy stepping up proving him wrong 💀😂
It’s be great if someone actually recorded each of their time spent
PurpleFiiilth you can’t put quotes around a summary of what he said put in your words. Quotation marks mean that you are quoting someone, and you referenced Steven beforehand meaning you were quoting him. But he never said that. So you just put words in his mouth
I think that yusef did good but he failed a bit when started to use some more rude words, this let Crowder the opening to cut the conversation whenever he wants using "rudness" as an excuse. I think even that he could adjust a little his argument to make them stronger.
I don't understand why you use your guest's slang/whatever else you want to call it, as an excuse to go against them when they are clearly making a point. After you say that they are being "rude" by using these slang words, you jump into interrupting them making a new point instead of letting them finish. Then you kick him off and let yourself keep talking against his views without any defense. I am a big fan but this is a disaster on your part. Not sure if I want to keep watching your videos if this is the way you debate. By the comments, I can tell I am not alone here. Looks like you are trying to score the points, not the guests.
well done.
Sock Piano sure and we can just give the rest of our rights away while we're at it.
Steven is hack both as an “intellectual” debater and comedian.
Digital Bear Productions you don’t just watch him as anger porn. That’s why I watch him. I want to get angry to distract from life’s woes.
Digital Bear Productions seriously though. He made himself look really bad.
Germany does have a minimum wage of 8,84 Euros since three years now.
Do your research Crowder... You already lost me at that point
www.change.org/p/steven-crowder-get-yusef-back-on-youtube
This really should be called, "I won't change my mind, even if you are right".
and Denmark does have progressive taxes according to google top results, this was no doubt stevens weakest Change my mind
Crowder made that first debate (and yes it was a *debate*) so much more awkward than it had to be. For a comedian, he sure can't take someone saying "autistic" very well. I thought the overly-sensitive-to-words kinda people were liberals, like David Hogg. Yuseff said "If you don't pay taxes, you're going to have other forms of violence that arise spontaneously. This sort of autistic Libertarian idea - this idea of a non-aggression principle is just fantasy", he wasn't even directing that at Crowder.
Johnny Crack i agree with you 100%. But just to add. Since crowder is a libertarian he got triggeted hard.
Really cause when he was asked if it was intended to be an insult he said yes. So by his own words it was directed at crowder.
#BringBackYusef
johnny crack right then Crowder calls him a dick then roast his hair cut lol wtf... then kept roasting him about saying autistic even after he was gone
Rawb Nyce Crowder is a conservite libertain, that was directed at Crowder.
I love how although many of the people in the comments respect Crowder, they’re not so blindly loyal to him that they won’t acknowledge what he did wrong to Yousef👏🏽
What did he do wrong?
@@Del_1710 you're kidding us, right? I'm a loyal fan of Steven's and have been for years however, he's so used to debating people that lack knowledge on the topic of discussion that he'll let them talk for an hour. Yousef on the other hand was extremely knowledgeable and Steven wouldn't let him talk for more then 10 seconds without cutting him off and trying to sway the debate in the direction Steven wants it to go... If that's the case, then why is it "change my mind?"
In all honesty, I truly believe Steven lost a lot of credibility on this video
@@mikeprez8880 because yousef wants to talk economics and he is having a debate on morality, is it good for country's economy? Maybe, but that's not the point of discussion the point of discussion is whether or not it's moral he says this in the "evil isn't harmful to society but morally reprehensible" And he stayed on the countries yousef brought up in his example his words turned out to be true those countries do in fact have no minimum wage and even when yousef asked why not and he didn't hear he still brought it back up and answered, so what's the problem. The only problem here is yousef talks in paragraphs and Steven talks in points that's it
Yeah I love Steven crowder and think he’s a smart guy but I immediately recognized this going on. This is definitely not Stevens strongest moment.
@@Del_1710 Think of it like medicine. In small doses at the right places it can cure disease & even save lives but if you dump too much into the body it becomes poison.
It doesn't mean medicine is evil. In the same way saying "Socialism is evil" is reductive.
The amount of times crowder completely cut him off, absolutely changed the topic or asked a question to distract the fact that he was losing is absurd. The kid was making great points and Crowder knew he was losing so he kicked him. He also talked more than 3x the kid and made little to no good points.
As a conservative, I found this very disappointing. He could have had an interesting and mutually beneficial discussion with the first participant. Wasted opportunity.
Yosef the goat
He really went against his own principles by steering the conversation away from the argument, and focusing on the small insult that kid made. In reality Steve was the one who was getting triggered.
If it wasn't for invading every opponents personal space, and literally shutting the discussion down when his points are dissolved into false premises. Yosef would have gone on to easily dissect the bad arguments crowder was making.
Yousuf has substance, crowder is a sophist.
Thus explains this debate
@@skyhigh5317
No crowder was steering the conversation back ON topic, he’s literally doing the exact opposite of what you accuse him of.
@@liamscott1905 Riiight, that's why he was repeatedly insulting him in the most passive-aggressive way saying shit like "someone like you would call you stupid", all over a light jab by Yosef. I could literally picture Ben Shapiro using those same types of insults, Yosef was just playing the same game as these right-wing entertainers, but when the roles reversed Crowder got triggered like a little bitch, so comical. This guy is a joke, his whole motive is to trigger college students for entertainment, and he got exposed here. If you couldn't see how obviously triggered Crowder got or how obviously rigged these "change my mind" bullshit debates are, I really don't know what to tell you.
Steve kinda dropped the ball on Yusef. He could have had an actual conversation but was instead concerned about entertaining the crowd.
The problem Yusef had was his lack of understanding on socialism. Minimum wage has nothing to do with socialism.
@@bighands69 Price floors are socialist, stops process of free market
@@bighands69 There goes a lot of things within the terms Socialism. I am from Denmark. A socialist inspired (inspired being a key word) system. It works a lot better than the system in the US (yes I have personal experience with the system). But there is absolutely bad and terrible parts of socialism.
But Crowder definitely dropped the ball on this one. And I am almost always on his side.
@@Bilal-lq1nd
No.
Minimum wage is not socialist. It is not part of shared ownership. Taxation, healthcare, wage controls or even rent controls are not socialist. I am not saying they are good or bad just that they are not socialism.
@@christianolsen2388
You cannot just throw the term socialist around and bend it to mean different things. It is a philosophical term that revolves around complete population ownership.
Denmark is nowhere near the living standards of the US.
The distinction is clear between an intellectual and a loud mouth.
I wonder what would happen if you were to fuse them. Would that grant infinite power?
@@slimonxviii3115 nah
@@godzpeedx7ii75 Thank you for letting me know. I will be able to sleep soundly now.
@@slimonxviii3115 "ego is inversely proportional to knowledge"
@@Proper_Time Epic Einstein qoute I think, I might be wrong.
“The question isn’t do we have socialization, it’s how much”
Would like a rematch between Steven and Yusef on a more neutral platform.
with a mod and a fact checker, Yousef would get another W for sure
@@HairyNippy lol what? Were you watching a different video?
Yea, I think “change my mind” has gotten too big. Crowder isn’t just debating but he’s playing to the crowd too. It’s natural, but takes away from the vids
@@formyownedification3879 Watch Destiny react to this video he explains it well
@@HairyNippy yeah he would sweep the floor with Crowder.
Yusef is what happens when crowder debates an intelligent person that speaks with facts. He goes to these colleges to debate people that aren't even ready to have debates and speak off just emotion. You should have a FULL debat with Yusef just to see what happens. Also, you should debate Destiny (that's his TH-cam you should look him up Crowder and Co.) debate people that have the facts. I wonder if you'd be afraid of that.
So...stealing from people and giving it to others is ok? Go to those countries if you want that bullshit.
@@TheJeevo92 what the fuck are you talking about? I was talking about debating crowder. He goes to these colleges to debate kids that aren't prepared for a full on debate but when he gets a kid that is, this is how he acts. The topic of this debate was not my point.
Please tell me his facts, that he couldn't provide.
@Gregory Frowendown What he was saying is autistic is the idea that there can be this massive margin and division of wealth and no violent consequences. The french revolution is an easy example of the point Yusef is making.
@@TheJeevo92 A level of socialism is required to safeguard society, just as with capitalism. Everyone benefits from this in the long run.
I had to watch you talk down to the clearly out-matched "Pro-Choice" woman for over an hour (who was clearly having an existential crisis as you caused her to question some of her beliefs), and finally you get a suitable intellectual opponent in Yusef and you spend half the "debate" pandering to the crowd for laughs and asking him to clarify over and over some of his word choice (yea- I think we can all agree autistic was a bad word choice)... You sent him packing after 15 minutes. Followed by a very strange communal reading from your binder which turned into an impromptu lecture.
I am a fan of the channel and the series, but I am very disappointed in how this one went..
Steven, the whole idea behind "Change my Mind" is that you might actually encounter someone who will do exactly that. If the premise behind the show is that your mind can never be changed, then this format is no different than the rhetoric filled shouting matches you are trying to surpass.
Very well put. Crowder is the Trevor Noah of the right. If you want real substance, listen to Ben Shapiro.
He dismissed his points because they weren’t relevant to the argument at hand: Socialism is evil.
Agreed. If anyone was talking in paragraphs, it was Crowder.
Bruce Wayne he did talk in paragraphs tho??!
I agree, and just because someone has good command of vocabulary doesn't mean they're speaking in paragraphs or trying to be smart. That one kinda ticked me off a little.
We definitely have progressive taxation in Denmark. Steven is using false arguments. You are not willing to change your mind. You simply just focus on every single word that is being said, and try to tear the arguments apart by finding small mistakes in the use of those words. So if a word is used incorrectly you’ll point it out even though it basically doesn’t matter. Truth is you are sounding very intelligent but sometimes just make things up on the way like saying we don’t have progressive taxation in Denmark which we do.
I think he does want to change his mind, but, at the same time, political beliefs basically define us. It takes someone who is more than human, IMO to really be open minded about those things.
@@radiofloyd2359 I don't think so. I think he's using this format to bait emotional, unprepared, and/or idotic people into a debate to bolster his ego and get a good laugh on their expense. If he would be interested in an honest debate, he wouldn't be moderator and debater in one person. That paired with the fact that he comes prepaired and his opponents don't, gives him all the control he needs.
@@Baptopful I guess you could say so... I still think he's more than anything trying to start a discussion, but that's my own biases.
Yeah there is no doubt that he takes advantage of people not having exact examples of everything they are arguing about. He just uses that he is dominating the discussion so that he can win the argument. If he was actually willing to change his mind he wouldn’t lie in his arguments. His only purpose is to make money by showing people getting destroyed in discussions that he has absolute control over....
@Andrea Mendenhall Denmark is a country... Unless you were rebutting? If so, sorry, I guess.
Yusef’s living rent free in your head
This is a king comment
True, kept bringing him up lol
Smh Tik tok comments
Maybe, but... You can own someone in an argument especially with a crowd and still be wrong. Getting the up on someone in these types of debates is a skill that doesn't really require you to be correct.
@@JeffreyPham79 It is easy to own someone who believes in socialism.
When Crowder closes his eyes at night he can still see Yusef.
Yusef is his boogie man
now imagine if he debated people like Sam Seeder, Vaush, Destiny, Kyle Kulinski, Contra Points, or anyone else who is left leaning and well spoken who knows more about politics than a first year college student. sheesh. probably why has never has and never will.
Yusef can't remember Steven cuz he wasn't looking at him at all lol
@@Scarlazer i mean its hard to look at something that doesn’t sit still
Yusef just made common failed arguments of the average socialist. Yusef pointed to capitalist countries as examples of successful socialist countries
Crowder lost harder than he lost his wife
hahahahaha
He was dealing with a gold digger who sneakily released an edited clip of a "fight" that barely registers as a 2 on a scale of 1-abuse. I have never gotten into his show because it tries to be funny when it just isnt but after all the leftist hate towards him this week im subbing and getting mug club. And Yusuf got owned in this debate.
@@skinnie2838 yeah i saw the vid was apparently edited as well. but please explain how Yusuf is the one who “got owned”?
@@we_are_so_back When he called Crowder a shill but couldnt define what a shill was I knew he was just another dummy acting like he knew what he was talking about
@@skinnie2838 crowder literally kept interrupting him and getting triggered the whole time. Crowder was completely unable to address Yusuf’s main argument that capitalism and conservatism are at odds.
Poor form, Steven, Yusuf clearly won and cutting the fellow at every occasion showed you were rattled. Not a socialist btw.
ash trey he won using which arguments?
One thing I learned in my years is if someone has to tell me something like "I'm not lying" then 99% of the time they are lying.
I think when you’re losing a debate you pull the mic away and divert the conversation to something irrelevant.
This is why i dislike crowder. The moment he gets called out on his bullshit he acts like nothing happened. He has a big following so he will use them as a kob to attack his guests.
I wanna see a rematch but this time both the folks who are debating have microphones
Just doesn't matter in the slightest. If they both had one they would just argue over each other. This idiot socialist child wouldn't be able to handle his own microphone. He should feel lucky he's not publicly executed for being a socialist.
@@A_Black_Sheep94 worst bait
@@KneeCaps Bait? Or opinion.... hmm.
Sovereign Snorlax nah it’s the fact that Steven kept pulling the mic away when Yusuf was speaking it was annoying as fuck
@@KneeCaps Ayyyy wtf u doin here fam. Hru
Came back to watch Yusef sh*t on Crowder again. Lmao
Crowders topic wasn't "convert me from supporting Capitalism". the topic was "socialism is evil change my mind". Yousef does have great points on how Capitalism can be harmful for conservatives especially when you bring up the social media aspect. But Socialism is still evil because you are putting everyone on the same level no matter how hard they work by taking money from hard workers. I wish Crowder would have brought up the pick pocket thing with Yousef and I do wish he would have had him on longer. I think if Yousef can recognize that Illegal immigration is immoral for the working class, he can definitely recognize that taking money from people and giving it to others who did not earn it Is in fact immoral
This is ridiculous. I actually like your videos, despite disagreeing with you frequently. But I'm under the impression that you aren't open to having your mind changed. Yusef had some very valid points, but you constantly interrupted him, made false statements (I am german, we have minimum wage) and became triggered and defensive instead of focusing on coming up with a good rebuttal - because you had none. You were the only one who's being rude in that discussion. Also, you tried to ridicule him for his words ("you want to sound intelligent" - unfair accusation, you are just frustrated) and to get the audience on your side to make him uncomfortable. On top of that, you took too much control of the debate, let people finish their sentences and don't dwell on every single thing they say...I have a much lower opinion of you now, seems like you're just way too focused on being the winner that listening to valid arguments.
I watched all Steven’s video and came to the same conclusion: Steven knows NOTHING when it comes to what’s actually going on in Europe....
And you do ?
@@Rongamer104 as european myself, yes.
Of course he’s not open to having his mind changed. He has an agenda to fill for the right side and I’m sure he’s getting paid well doing it and thus there is a severe conflict of interest whenever he talks. Change my mind is just a great marketing ploy and he is a fantastic speaker. He is a golden child for the republicans.
@ k0brakai
Europe too has major problems with refugees, taxes, and environmental issues, and more and more people reject politics on the left.
Western European countries are heading towards right-wing governments in the future.
22:50 Goddamn, that dude is making some sound logical points. But Steven get's caught up on words like shill and autism. Also, he doesn't need to 'look you in the eye and be intimidated' when he's focussing on his next argument, all the while you're rambling on and playing off of a highly biased crowd. I do like to think you want your mind to be changed, just saying you're definitely not leaving any wiggle room.
dakrisis he doesnt want his mind changed. He wants to debate people that will agree with what hes saying and stroke his ego or people that do not have the ability to debate him
He doesn't want to debate over nothing, I don't think that little of Steven. I enjoy some of his content, but he's also quite all over the place, emotionally driven and quite right leaning for my taste at times. The discussion had so much potential and he cut it off because reasons, I think that was uncalled for.
He only tries to intimidate people who are smarter than he is it comes from deep seated insecurities im guessing.
oh man! I'm just glad I'm not the only one who saw exactly this.
You're speaking in paragraphs
This is what I don’t like about Crowder, he went for personal attacks against Yousef and gave him extremely little Mic time. Yousef had to just shake his head while Crowder filibustered on and on.
I feel that crowder usually takes all the mic time because he's absolutely schooling them, but this time he kept interrupting, and he got a little rude. he is still one of my favorite people to watch.
Halfawake but they were minor and didn’t stray away from the point as Steven used it as a crutch to distract from where the conversation was going
Steven filibusters, then Steven yet again contradicts himself by telling the guy he is talking in paragraphs.
he did that today on a Trump debate; right after complaining about talking in paragraphs, he talks longer.
Ryan Shidyak usually when he is wrong he admits it, this time he got flat out raped and that is hard to admit
Friday Nights Out can u link a clip of him admitting he's wrong? he still distorts what net neutrality is so badly, he's against it for reasons that would make him support it if he knew what it was lol
you flopped here steven.... I got excited and expected some really strong points but you played the person you always mock - the defensive and triggered kid
Agree entirely. Disappointing "performance" by Steven.
I agree, instead of gaining a clear understanding of what Steven actually believes, or countering the arguments of the participants, he gets bogged down in semantics which is a little less interesting to me.
Dude got triggered over the word autistic then used himself. Then he gets even more triggered when he uses shrill like seriously dude.
www.change.org/p/steven-crowder-get-yusef-back-on-youtube
In a You
He didn't really seem triggered. He kinda laughed it off really
Wow dude, long time viewer here and fan. Seriously disappointed with the first interview. You used MANY of the "liberal" tactics you talk about all the time on this kid to try and DE-legitamize his argument. I could tell you were caught off guard by his sharpness and political stance, but you responded to all of his arguements by asking him to define terms, in order to "waste" time and put him on the spot. Really just meaningless spinning in order to try to get him to trip up so you can go "ah hah , gotcha" . This was a seriously sad attempt at trying to respond and defend your positions in a rational and reasonable way, cant believe how manipulative this was. UN-subbed , not a good look.
Charlie Willis I think you should resub unless Crowder doesn't own up to this mistake. We can't be overly emotional, you know? People make mistakes. The thing about "right-wingers" is that we let people own up to their shit unlike regressives. I will unsub as well if he can't admit his fault.
Yeah I could definitely agree to that , seems reasonable. I'd be pleasantly suprised if he does own up to this mistake . It's definitely not the time for the right to be splitting up and I'd like to avoid that , but man I just hate seeing our guys stoop to the lefts level.
Amen, man. I was annoyed at how quick he took offense to this kid's internet terminology. Crowder isn't much older than him so I figured he would understand the context 'autistic' and 'shill' were used in. De-legitimizing the argument was low and I think hindsight will quickly show Crowder his mistake. I certainly hope he doesn't go full Triggering and decide to say "Well clearly the dissenters are all just left-wing trolls and shit anyhow."
GJ Charlie Willis, that is exactly what I saw. He was acting like a SJW and the people he denounces. Great observation!
Horrible observations. He always defines terms with every one of the change my mind segments. Had nothing to do with this kid. As well as the kid was not well organized in his thoughts and consistency and some of his statements were either blanket platitudes or inconsistent with the single question which was socialism morality.
Germany has minimum wage. Just to add.
Throne on top of that the reason why all the Scandinavian countries don't have minimum wage is that they have extremely strong unions (you have to join a union to work in Iceland) and the unions negotiate minimum wages based on the industry, not only is that most likely more practical from an economic standpoint but hilariously it is much more *Socialist* having workers in trade unions set the wage than the state. Crowder also hilariously said Denmark had a flat tax when the Danes are famous for their extremely high progressive tax system.
Norway basically has a minimum wage aswell, depending on which field you work in. For example cleaners have a min. wage of 177 NOK which is 22 USD
That's the comment I was looking for! Thanks!
That it does, it was instituted in 2015, last I knew it didn't but a quick Google search showed that it had changed.
The netherlands as well
This video was quite eye opening. Crowder fell in the leftist argumentation side. He used ad hominem (personal) attacks against opposers. He was bigoted, in which he would make arguments based on his ability to control who can speak as he has the mic and crowd fanbase. And he also tried to throw in sly delegitimizing comments like "first of all you speak in paragraphs"...as if to say your argument is better because its shorter. "Rock hurt" is not as effective "a rocks potential to do damage is based on the capability of its user and capacity to damage within the given context". Sorry Steven but you've definitely lost credibility in my mind after this.
Maximilian Marcisz “Leftist argumentation side”? Please do not reproduce
For clarification, it's using highly emotive responses to an argument. Anger;raising of voice, shift of tone, hand gestures. Not to see this doesn't make your argument effective in all cases, but that you look silly when you keep saying the same thing and the only change when challenged is the brashness and loudness of the argument. I usually just call it being a snowflake tho :)
Maximilian Marcisz For clarification, generalizing millions of people as having cheap, petty argument tactics makes you fall into your own category.
Cam Jo I think your are missing the points. But thats okay 🤷♂️
Maximilian Marcisz I agree, but I think you're rather fickle if you find just one single instance of him engaging in habits you dont like and suddenly consider him to be incredible.
On the first guy I'm actually disappointed. The autistic comment only mattered because Crowder wanted it to matter. He saw it as his chance to gain some ground back in the debate. The kid didn’t even call him autistic, crowder just wanted the crowd to think he did so he could do the old trick the left does when they find an offensive word you have said and attack that instead of the points you are making. And that guy did make some strong points.
www.change.org/p/steven-crowder-get-yusef-back-on-youtube
Eliroque Actually Crowder is a libertarian, and he called libertarians autists by saying that libertarianism was "autistic."
+Eliroque You do realize the entire point of a debate is not to convince the other person of what you think/feel/believe, it is to convince the audience. That is the whole point of argument in this style of scenario. It is to convince the audience. As you may have seen in the past, when he is in a very Left oriented setting, the crowd is of that similar mindset, and often regardless of how many times their points are proven to be false or shown how they have no argument, their opinion doesnt change because it's the "mob rules" mindset.
And in this given scenario, he is surrounded by far more in support of his views than against them. The goal is to win the crowd, because winning the individual does very little if you cant win over the masses. For example.. Presidential Debates, they arent about one candidate convincing the other, their goal is to convince the people watching that they are the one with the better plan for the country.
But yes, while he made the comment about autism matter even though in the grand scheme it didnt matter, winning people's emotions is a tool both the left and right use. It's just a common thing people do in any kind of debate or argument. If you can appeal to people's emotions you can sometimes overcome their logic by preaching to their feelings as I'm sure you may have clearly seen in the nation's current state of affairs. Frankly, I dont feel he made any strong points about socialism being good, but Crowder doesnt make many about it being "Evil". Makes plenty about it being immoral and his definition of it as immoral is based in his belief in the Christian faith. And by the Christian faith, the concept is immoral, however there's a reason we have a separation of church from state or at least are supposed to.
Regardless, my personal belief on what socialism is comes from the mouth of socialists... "The end goal of socialism is communism" -Vladmir Lenin-. Karl Marx had pretty similar views on the matter.. In fact, if you look at pretty much all the "founding fathers" of socialism, they all have a similar conclusion or something far more destructive in mind that the current crop of socialists say they believe. The point being made there as far as I'm concerned is that if a form of government is steeped in fundamental and ideological failures at every turn, then the form of government to me is a failure. Socialism in it's true form has been proven NOT to work, socialism in deviated forms such as communism has been proven NOT to work, neo-socialism as we see today in countries like Canada have been proven NOT to work they way people imagined. But... can a government function? Yes... But frankly I dont think they function well as pretty much all of those countries are HIGHLY oppressive to thoughts not in line with the governments beliefs such as Canada's passing of laws stating if you call somebody in transition something other than what they identify as it's "hate speech" and you can be imprisoned for it.
Much like the whole thing about Norway, Sweden, and etc... They arent "true" socialist countries. They do implement certain systems that socialist countries use such as health care and the likes. But it doesnt completely control the politics. So, I believe in small doses, certain aspects of socialism can work. In fact, even communism CAN work in a small group. But when you drop it on a nation with hundreds of millions or billions of people, then it doesnt really work.
The kid had no argument that isn't directly contradicted by reality.
Monosyllable Crowder is a fake right winger and shill who makes videos for baby boomers. He obviously can't handle someone who argues in paragraphs.
change the name from "change my mind" to "stroke my ego" lmao
MYSKO that's what it is and these kids are supposed to be intelligent... Oof...
I think someone taking the time out of their lives to be an opposition to the political game we live in is a great thing. He’s not hurting anyone... you know... besides soyboys like you ;)
Keegan Debevoise It seams the only people getting bend out of shape are people like yousef! He lost his socialists shows the level of his ignorance if he believes in it so much he should to to country controlled by Socialist parties
hur hur soyboy.
I'm a girl. Also, come with an actual argument if you don't agree. I'm guessing it's people like you who watch his videos and why he gets so many views since he can't even recognize when a good argument has been made.
Love seeing Crowder get support, but I think I prefer the “Change My Mind” segments without a small mob of fans. Crowder tried to be a comedian more than a serious debater off and on and it kinda threw it off for me.
Crowder is an entertainer hence the 1.6million followers on YT and the explosive growth in mug club! I think he should let Ben Shapiro do the debating on his show!
Ashaley Boo Yeah I think the smaller ones are more productive in what they are meant to do. But it looks like instead it is just crowder feeding off of the audience and making fun of/being aggresive to the point where its not needed. (Coming from a fan btw.)
Notice how Steven strategically takes away the mic whenever Yusuf was about to expound on his ideas?
The Truth of the Matter No
America
I don't think you were particularly fair to Yusuf. It seems like you were looking for, as you point out with your pamphlet afterwards, the buzzwords so you could "point out" how his argument was faulty. Really, you just talked over him rather than listen to what he was actually saying. His argument was simply that your statement was faulty, there are degrees of socialism and to say ALL socialism is evil is like saying ALL capitalism is evil. But why listen when you can just look for perceived attacks on your character?
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Yusef won this debate. been a fan for years, but this is a time i can confidently say you lost
BRING YUSEF BACK
i wanna see ben shapiro vs yusef
Yusef would win, be Shapiro is just a fast talking wierdo
That's the only thing to date that I would pay money to see
@@anacondadope550 .... deff not lol
Isaic Levinstein Shapiro va alexdrandrio Ortiz or what ever it is is something I’d pay to see
@@anacondadope550 you mean a jew.
Steven kicked Yousef out because he was actually started to change his mind.
@Wicked Jester I couldn't talk to Yusuf either, he wants to redistribute the money I earned by working hard to people who sit at home and didn't earn it.
@Harry Waddington I guess wouldn't would be more precise. I don't mind talking to people who disagree, but not on this subject. Crowder gets paid to do this, I don't have the time to discuss such nonsense. Get a job, work hard and earn your keep.
No, they kept talking about the same examples until Steven realized he just flat out doesn’t agree with Yousef, in my opinion I think Yousef was wrong for using Denmark and Sweden as good examples when he didn’t agree with things they shared
Has he ever admitted to having his mind changed before?
NO! You idiot
Abruptly ended the debate with that SMART guy, then had to give a lesson to the audience to try and recover from that L 😂😂
Abruptly ended it when he was in a bit of a spot, no less. Of course he had to give a lesson afterward where Yusuf was dismissed and couldn't challenge him any longer, lol!
Andrea Mendenhall crowders is a manipulative snowflake period
Andrea Mendenhall you’re a fan lol hopefully you will be able to see past your own bias. You need to be able to look at things objectively not just because you like crowder. He looked like a complete ass hat here afraid of any actual intellectual challenge so he deflects. That’s the entire point of these change my mind videos to make him look good, why else would a grown man debate kids who haven’t even been able to fully establish their own sets of beliefs. Obviously the grown man who talks politics for a living is going to be more informed and more eloquent speaking in front of a camera lmfao it’s low hanging fruit, if he was really about a debate he would have other liberal talk show host on to change his mind but he won’t even do that at politcon lol
Yes, because he realized his mind wouldn’t be changed, dumbass.
"Like a battered housewife that won't leave her husband like 'ok I'll make the roast'"
Personal experience, Crowder? That didn't age well
Yusuf is way smarter than Steven " hold on a second" Crowder
Yusef is not smart at all. Yusef's very first argument about how the lack of a minimum wage will cause a country to collapse under an influx of unskilled labor is an atrocious argument and factually incorrect. Why is it that the two countries in the world with the highest quality of life and income (Singapore and Switzerland) have no minimum wage? Yet Scandinavian countries with the highest minimum wage in the world are now getting an influx of low skill immigrants and watching their crime rates (specifically rape) skyrocket. Essentially Yusef's very first and strongest argument gets utterly refuted by simple facts. He's a dumb college kid who knows nothing about the world and nothing about economics. He didn't destroy Steven at all.
@@dustinransom4572 Dude are you dump? Switzerland has a Minimum wage And singapore in some case too . Seriously how dump are you
Ramish Butt “While Switzerland has no official minimum wage,a majority of the voluntary collective bargaining agreements contain clauses on minimum compensation,ranging from 2,200 to 4,200 francs per month for unskilled workers and from 2,800 to 5,300 francs per month for skilled employees.” Minimum-wage.org
Man you could’ve googled it and not looked as dumb as you do now. Besides, “how dumb are you?” Isn’t a rhetorical argument and doesn’t make a discussion go anywhere.
The person you responded to is correct in what he is talking about. Yusuf slipped up when he brought up minimum wage, because he read the Communist manifesto once and thought he could be a socialism apologist like Slavoj Žižek. His arguments didn’t even address Crowders claim.
@@BlackOrkid777 Dustin statement about Minimum wage and increasing crimes with unskilled workers doesnt correlate . These things resulted from different causes.
Just so you know crowder lied about progressive taxes And minimum wages.
www.numbeo.com/quality-of-life/rankings_by_country.jsp
Of course there are many parameters which effect the quality of life but See it for yourself the list is predominantly with countries who have a minimum wage. And btw Steven never Adressed anything he just kept playing the whiny SJW which he claims to hate.
Please get Yusef on the show again. Guy was smart and it would be such an interesting debate to hear again.
Interesting debate as in Steven talks for 30 seconds straight. Lets the kid have the mic near his mouth for about 3 seconds before he pulls it back to himself again in the middle of the kids sentence? Yeah real interesting debate....
Yusuf teared a new one into Crowder! Dude, Crowder got chewed up and had to focus on his use of the word "Autistic" to try to knock him of his focus. Crowder met his match and was upset that Yusuf wasn't emotionally driven. Ha!
So it wasn't emotionally charged to call libertarians autists? To throw out insults like that takes a high degree of disrespect and is usually emotionally backed with feel feels.
That first guy absolutely demolished you 😂
Every argument yusef brought was literally in crowder handbook with facts that shows he was wrong. He was not destroyed lol
wow, let him talk, Steven, it's called change my mind not cut him off. you're being, dare I say, autistic about the autism remark. you say way worse all the time and that's fine too, it doesn't mean you don't have a point. I don't think you expected to talk to someone who is informed and somewhat eloquent and nuanced.
pure Justice without compassion splits the baby. Steven is a baby splitter. he already agreed implicitly that a state needs taxation because he supports government funding of public goods. and he keeps jabbing at the first guy by thanking the next speaker for not calling him retarded. though dost protest a bit too much, Steven!
+Walt Maisel he's only proving to me that this *is* a performance, which makes sense because for Steven to actually change his mind would undermine this whole business venture!
Walt Maisel comedy is different from a debate bro. This was a debate no room for insults.
Somewhat eloquent? This kid was great. He owned Crowder, I could only imagine what he'd do to the typical Crowder fanboy.
Whitey O'Banion the kid didn’t say anything of note. Partially I would imagine cause he has nothing to say and partially because crowder cut him off quite a bit. The autistic comment was clearly made out of habit by someone who spends a lot of time on the internet but nonetheless showed how childish he was. At no point did he ever argue for the moral superiority of socialism.
He doesn't want his mind changed. Should rename it..
www.change.org/p/steven-crowder-get-yusef-back-on-youtube
I can imagine it now "I Won't Change My Mind Despite Valid Points Being Leveled and Resort to Pedantic Insults While My Fanbase Reveres Me As A God" IWCMMDVPBLARTPIWMFRMAAG for short.
He do, but you have to do better then just having a formulated utopia mindset.
@@cranberrykay3876 yosef handled it way better than him so dont tell me it wasn't good enough.
He is right tho. Even if he's not good at debating his opinion. If a child said socialism is bozo, I'd have to say that child was right
Yeah crowder was interrupting first kid too much... He would want to say things and crowded would cut him right off. 😩 I could tell the kid was getting aggravated... I really think two microphones would help a lot.
Nathalia T I think the first kid wasnt all that aggro since he even told Crowder he was losing (which he was lol).
It's a power move.
Izrael moha aka a "Chad" move.
Joshua McCoskrie dude you are all over the chat. You really should get off the internet for awhile.
I am not for one or the other person. The kid was a little arrogant and did start calling down the other side which suggests the weaker argument. If you investigate debating and argument styles, name calling is considered a lower form of argument. If I was an alien and came here without prior knowledge of socialism ,I think the kid failed to convince me that Socialism is good and that Crowders argument is more compelling. Sweden is no longer a good example of a socialist country with the rate of rape and crime due to open immigration. In 2105 Sweden let in 150,000 immigrants and 500 got jobs, this will likely end in a bankrupt country!
Let’s be honest that first guy dodged a HUGE bullet not being allowed to participate
CLEARLY lost the first debate! Also not fair that he is the mediator and the debater at the same time. There needs to be a neutral party for a debate to take place. He has FULL control of the other person at all times and wont stop fidgeting with his water bottle when the other person is talking (which is extremely rude) You also lean into them physically which is not a proper debate forum. It is like an interrogation. He even leans into them when they have no personal space!
ALSO he insults the kids haircut which is extremely rude. The kid did not even call him autistic. He said the idea had pieces of autism throughout. That is completely different. Crowder knew he lost.
pretty telling that the first unedited 'Change My Mind' Steven gets owned by the very first guest
www.change.org/p/steven-crowder-get-yusef-back-on-youtube
I was wondering why he would publish such an embarrassing disaster lmao
He didn't get owned actually. Steven just didn't know how to react to the personal attacks and the strange, factually incorrect arguments thrown at him so quickly, so he scolded Yusef on his use of insults and logical fallacies, which was actually totally fair. I would expect any competent host to do the same.
Yusef's very first argument about how the lack of a minimum wage will cause a country to collapse under an influx of unskilled labor is an atrocious argument and factually incorrect. Why is it that the two countries in the world with the highest quality of life and income (Singapore and Switzerland) have no minimum wage? Yet Scandinavian countries with the highest minimum wage in the world are now getting an influx of low skill immigrants and watching their crime rates (specifically rape) skyrocket. Essentially Yusef's very first and strongest argument gets utterly refuted by simple facts. He's a dumb college kid who knows nothing about the world and nothing about economics. He didn't destroy Steven at all.
I'm just reading the comment thread now, thank you. I don't even watch Crowder's show, nor like him. Funny that you had no rebuttal to anything I said, so I can see you got triggered by facts. Pretty sad. Well, Yusef tricked you and just about everyone else into thinking that going on someone's show and hurling out insults is a way to win debates. On the street, that's how you get knocked out, and in real logical debates, that's how you're instantly declared the loser. Kid was a little sophist cockroach.
Well. I've learned something here. If you just go up to the podium, insult the host of the show, and say he's losing the debate, people on TH-cam will say the host got owned. The little punk kid doesn't know anything about economics, and all of his arguments about the minimum wage were factually incorrect. Yusef is like a pseudointellectual internet troll brought to real life. He made no single good point about how bigger government or a welfare state helps us. That's what he was brought on to demonstrate. Instead he just insulted the host. Pathetic.
Why are you lying Steven? All European countries have minimum wages and they are quite high.
I'm an American expatriate and I live in Europe.
John V What's the tax rate? Cost of goods? Housing?
He said those 3 places had "no general minimum wage"
This is not lying.
Both those 3 have, I live in Denmark. 25$ minimum wage her.
Daniel Wøhlk Switzerland has $27 mw
Don't they take 60% of that in taxes cutting it down to 12.5 ?
Steven calls Yusuf rude but he never lets Yusuf finish a single explanation, while always interrupting him and talking in paragraphs himself - that's rude. He steals what little talking time Yusuf has by making him define the words he uses and does not stick to those definitions himself. The longer I watch this, the angrier I get.
Yes yes. Please let Yousef articulate how theft is *somehow* moral. Lolz
That is a straw men argument based on the assumption that all "unnecessary" redistributions of money gained by taxes are defined as stealing. But there are no real "necessary" redistributions of tax money thus you would have to define taxes themselves as stealing. That, however, is only a very personal and limited definition and not the actual definition.
@@mini-mei income taxes where not mandated at 1 point and time and look at it now and they want to raise income taxes. No law says we have to pay those taxes it is theft
@@staywhite6332 it is a change my mind segment right? Not a "come disagree with me so i can talk over you" segment?
STAY WHITE thank you!! LOL.m XD
This whole topic can also be converted to "Robin Hood is evil. Change my mind."
The same Robin Hood that takes back the "socialist" taxes stolen from the hard working people by the tyrant monarch?
"Let's slow it down, you speak in these paragraphs"... Proceeds to speak full pages at a time and interrupt after barely a sentence.
I agree. Outside of crowders echo chamber, I can’t imagine how anybody would see this as a win for him
Bro took the L anyways
@@theunrelaxingreality That’s an ad hominem.
@@theunrelaxingreality if he truly wanted his mind changed surely he would have listened more than trying to rebut the arguments? The person trying to change his mind should be talking way more than him. Seems like he was fairly comfortable with his current position.
Also I find it hilarious that you are trying to posture your obvious use of a logical fallacy as some meta tactic, apparently pointing out yousef’s use of fallacious arguments (which I would love you to point out, as he didn’t use any).
@@theunrelaxingreality It seems like you just clipped moments in which yousef spoke, because there is nothing remarkable about any of those time stamps, now unless you want commit to an accusation of a specific fallacy committed by yousef, I don’t see any utility in continuing this discussion: as you are not even giving me an argument to oppose, merely claims.
I wanna see Yousef debate Shapiro
alex del rio and get smoked again
I wanna give Yousef a helicopter ride. No point in debating liars and thieves.
HIS NAME IS FUCKING IAN.
He should debate me I would anihalate this kid
Lmfao yall are going way too far with this smh..... he would die against Shapiro and travel the after life with peterson lol yall crazy.
Crowder lost it and went to name calling- something he generally denounces, but he just couldn't handle getting spanked. And he had the nerve to call the respectable gentleman rude. Finally he had to just cut it off because he was at a loss.
Isn't Crowder the one always calling others snowflakes, yet that first young man said "autistic" and Crowder blew it out of proportion....
It might have been more of a play up your opponent for hypocrisy thing. Trying to blame Yusuf for using that word sense other liberals would be extremely defended , I don’t think he was actually offended but it’s still petty just a different way
@@bigchungus1920 I don't think he is a liberal lol
@@yorgfigure6164 idk I think he’s social Democrat which is form of liberalism
@@bigchungus1920 No it's not lol
@@yorgfigure6164 modern leftism *
Ehhhh Steven reminded me of a triggered feminist during the first debate
For anyone who checked the comment section and saw the name Yusuf and wondering who the hell that is and which part of the video it is. 7:22
There you go.
Gogo gadget skiis ur a god thank u sm
Happy to help.
Gogo gadget skiis hero
1rst one, was not a debate... was a interrogation. He did not respect him either, just Wanted full control at any time...
this guys describe what i mean perfectly
"Suture Entertainment
CLEARLY lost the first debate! Also not fair that he is the mediator and the debater at the same time. There needs to be a neutral party for a debate to take place. He has FULL control of the other person at all times and wont stop fidgeting with his water bottle when the other person is talking (which is extremely rude) It is like an interrogation. He even leans into them when they have no personal space!"
"Raina
It was really awful to watch 😬, he kept interrupting Yusef, accusing Yusef of “constantly speaking in paragraphs,” but Steven was speaking the entire time and barely let Yusef finish a single sentence. Steven rambled on and on about distracting nonsense and couldnt stayed focused, I was actually really interested in hearings Yusef speak more on his points. Really embarrassing to watch."
Steven got wrecked by Yousef. And he did not handle it gracefully, he instead showed his true colors and acted like everything he criticizes.
It takes a particularly motherfuckingly awful man to abuse his pregnant wife and abandon his children, not to mention the "worship" of freedom whilst yourself acts like a dictator, not to mention showing off your motherfucking penis to your employees
Yep
Exactly my thoughts
How. If the kid was right then the kid would be living his best life in a perfect socialist utopia
@@NMN4678 duct tape or electric tape when you tuck in the morning?
I've noticed that when Crowder is losing a debate, he attempts to talk you in a circle when asked simple yes or no questions. When he feels he has a point you cant refute he comes back to it if he starts to lose ground on a different point. Him holding the mic allows him to control the conversation by cutting your points short whenever he chooses but ironically he often accuses others of not letting him get a word in. I find these entertaining because I like hearing different points of view, but Crowder is nowhere near beginning considered a great debater. Everytime he chooses a topic that isn't rooted in fact he takes a L. Instead of "Trump is not a fascist" let's see "Trump is doing a great job as POTUS." Instead of "There are only 2 genders" let's see "There should only be 2 genders." I've seen "socialism is evil" an opinion, and he lost that debate. And no one can change your mind on being pro gun if your main argument is "it's my right." Not impressed 🤷🏿♂️.
That's interesting because I've never noticed Crowder losing a debate.
Zach Rose isn’t Stevens way of spotting someone losing a debate is when they become hostile and rude? Ironically Steven was exactly this
Every single time the crowd reacted to Steven, it was from Steven being rude to his opponent. Steven says "we are not performing" yet addresses the crowd more often than his opponent. Whenever Steven wants to address perceived rudeness from his opponent, he does so by being even more rude and frank, showcasing how much offense he's taking.
This is the first of these videos I've ever seen and this guy doesn't seem like someone who should have any sort of following. Yusef murdered this man and he doesn't even realize it.
Koviko no he didn't lmao
Steven kept debating Yusef's points after he made Yusef leave such that Yusef couldn't respond any longer. Steven's a coward, here, 100%.
From 23:10 it Just gets worse? You're losing a lot of points here. How is yousef being rude while you're the one putting words in his mouth and interrupting him? Jesus steven
Jelte Goemans /HannahBB13asvvga3/ the entire point of this segment is to have a civil conversation. Yusuf has implied Steven is autistic and a shill, so Steven has to take the time to remind Yusuf to be civil. There’s nothing wrong with that.
Long Dick Jones He didn’t call Steven autistic, he called the argument autistic, two different things. I like crowder but he didn’t play well here.
You are all up in his face, stop. Sit back, please. And stop getting triggered and using the word "autistic" every single time you are losing, just because he said it once. Lol.
He shouldnt of said it at all. It was beneath them and petty. Directly aimed at Libertarians and making fun of autistic people. Thats not ok in a civil convo.
MagneticFlux if that’s the case then there have been moments where crowder has been insulting himself. Stop defending crowder as if he’s the god of reason and logic. He isn’t and never has been.
I love crowder but he wasnt ready for yusuf lol. He was reaching by impeading his free speech with crowd intimidation. Any person should be able to say autistic or retarded or anything that does not directly incite violence. Especially since crowder has used those words and much worse in his podcast. I think he was losing and couldnt recover and he lost his head for a second. He had to buy time and take a second to get his head out of it lol.
Chill Chill Not Chill impeading his free speech? Please explain how crowder did not let the young man speak his mind for almost half an hour.
@@jared8019 he also, as I said above, would not shut up about him using the word 'autistic'. This was all completely out of his character. I love the man, he is a national treasure, but he was blind-sided on this one and did not handle this sort of complacent event very well..
Crowder i hope you're reading your comments
anitalianguy he is. He knows well he got creamed. But, he will learn. You would hope.
Fact is, crowder is very entertaining but he has a ceiling in debates. And Youssef was definitely in that ceiling.
Nunya, I agree
Daniel Perez you are calling the overwhelming majority of conservatives who commented fools
@Daniel Perez Where did he did wrong? He did good points but crowder responds with "back to the autistic...." or make him explain, stop sucking his dick you dumbass
@Daniel Perez crowder sucks.
Watching Steven Crumble to a child was a breath of fresh air. It shows what someone when someone is actually intelligent they can defeat Stevens smart Deflection tactics and clever wordplay
"Define Shill", gets the whole crowd against him, he defines it correctly and the Steven just forgets the whole conversation happened lmao
Exactly. He basically ended it with "Thanks for the conversation. Now please leave so I can pull out my binder and perform for the crowd where you can no longer reply"
@@jamesnite2157 He's such a coward, he's backed out of three debates cuz he knows he'll get wrecked. Terrified of a five foot six, 140 pounds soaking wet Sam Seder.
A child?
it's embarrassing, Steven got all upset & chucking insults when he started losing the debate with Yusef, then abruptly ends the debate haha
@@_ash_zSteven didn't insult him at all. Yusef, however, insulted Steven twice.
Wowza... Crowder sure showed his true colors here eh?
Tiffany N yeah hes got cocky in this one. Kid made some good points
He did. Regret ever thinking he might be alright he's just a cunt. Proved it right here.
Who Da Fook Is That Guy how?
Who Da Fook Is That Guy exactly he sounds sane sometimes but this video proves he is just here to make money and entertain his audience. He went full troll when confronted with real arguments. The segment should be called I'll never change my mind let's argue.
he wasn't expecting that kid to know his shit< lol you saw the first kid he tried to pull was A high-school kid . he was judging a book by its cover here> and payed dearly for it.
“I know you like to speak in paragraphs to seem smart”
>kicks him out and speaks several paragraphs
When he said he was speaking in paragraph it meant he was speaking more in term hard to decipher 🤦♂️
@@somethingwongbd3114 then why use the term paragraph when then are words that literally mean that and the word paragraph means something completely different
Idk if you noticed but they both agreed at the end about corporate tax rate and he explains the ripple effects of that and notice yusef had nothing else to say lol
Yeah, he was speaking too much for this fake-ass shallow format, wasn't stumbling enough, and it was hard for Crowder to intercept his every word, ask him to define it and then look for opportunities to play gotchas.
Crowder needs to keep changing the course of the debate until he stumbles upon some weakness or opportunity to spin. And if nothing else, he can at least play the offended card and complain for 2 minutes to the effect of completely derailing the discussion.
@@dillonmeadows8857 Nah, he just stayed quiet because he knew that Crowder would interrupt and twist his words once again. Really childish debate from Crowder on this one.
Is so ridiculous how he tries to control the conversation to exhaust him and make him panic, this guy just murdered you. Goodbye
conservative socialist, no crowder, he's a national socialist