The Origins of the Jesus Fish

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    Bibliography:
    Guy Stroumsa, "The Early Christian Fish Symbol Reconsidered," 199-205 in Messiah and Christos: Studies in the Jewish Origins of Christianity, Tubingen: Mohr, 1992.
    Tuomas Rasimus, "Revisiting the Ichthys: A Suggestion Concerning the Origins of Christological Fish Symbolism
    Laurence Harold Kant, "The Interpretation of Religious Symbols in the Graeco-Roman World: A Case Study of Early Christian Fish Symbolism," PhD Dissertation, Yale University, 1993.
    MOREY, CHARLES R, "The Origin of the Fish Symbol," American journal of archaeology, 1909-01-01, Vol.13, p.57

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  • @ReligionForBreakfast
    @ReligionForBreakfast  3 ปีที่แล้ว +75

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    • @antagonizerr
      @antagonizerr 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I always thought it was a reference to the multiplying of the fish at the last supper.

    • @CaesiusX
      @CaesiusX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I always figured it was tied to the _fisher of men_ reference. 🤷🏼‍♂️

    • @ziontours5893
      @ziontours5893 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@antagonizerr The multiplication of the loaves and the fish was after he preached to the masses in the Galilee. Fish isn't mentioned in the last supper.

    • @littleandre4957
      @littleandre4957 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Again, its not a christian practise. Immersion/mikvah is a Jewish practise.

    • @EduardoAyresSoares
      @EduardoAyresSoares 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      you could post more often. Would be nice to have a video once a week.

  • @Gabriel-ek9gd
    @Gabriel-ek9gd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1109

    Imagine not knowing about this whole jesus thing and just seeing "fish" written in random places. You'd be so confused

    • @merrittanimation7721
      @merrittanimation7721 3 ปีที่แล้ว +232

      "The fishmongers are getting intense with their ads lately"

    • @elg6197
      @elg6197 3 ปีที่แล้ว +85

      You just described the most archeological experience

    • @mosesking2923
      @mosesking2923 3 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      I'm sure the ancient romans thought their new Christian neighbors were all pescatarian LOLOL. Little did they know the REAL Christian cuisine: baby back ribs slathered in barbecue sauce with a side of potato salad and coleslaw.

    • @DallasMay
      @DallasMay 3 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      "I'm sorry, I don't think I understand.... You worship a fish god?"

    • @DriftedVisionMan
      @DriftedVisionMan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      As a kid with a secular upbringing, this was me.

  • @PBAmygdala2021
    @PBAmygdala2021 3 ปีที่แล้ว +348

    Since the fish logo stuck around for so long, I guess you could say it was pretty catchy...

    • @cat_pb
      @cat_pb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      😂

    • @ryshow9118
      @ryshow9118 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Boooooo! 🤣

    • @lukerobinson8044
      @lukerobinson8044 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Eeeeeeyyyyyyyy 👉

    • @travcollier
      @travcollier 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      But all those origin stories are pretty fishy

    • @jgobroho
      @jgobroho 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      This comment seems a bit fishy to me...

  • @Agaettis
    @Agaettis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1537

    I just always thought it was because he multiplied fish for people 😂

    • @MPHJackson7
      @MPHJackson7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      Actually, that explanation would make some sense, now that I think about it.

    • @leunam2012
      @leunam2012 3 ปีที่แล้ว +126

      After helping him catch two boat loads of fish, Jesus told Peter that he will make him a different kind of fisherman, one who brings in people and not fish.

    • @Agaettis
      @Agaettis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@MPHJackson7 would make more if it was fish and bread? But i always thought the bumper stickers were playing off that story

    • @Damons-Old-Soul
      @Damons-Old-Soul 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@MPHJackson7 The better question is how did the fisherman stories become so predominant in the Gospels? Personally, I apt to go with the Procession of The Equinox into Pieces at the beginning of the First Century CE. This is backed up by a story that I think is in John, where the disciples ask Jesus , once he has gone, what should they watch for. The response is a Man carrying a jug of water through the door, out of the house. This being a reference to Aquarius, the next sign in the Procession of The Equinox.

    • @varana
      @varana 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@Damons-Old-Soul Or it could be, I don't know, because he lived in the general area of the Sea of Galilee in the company of fishermen.

  • @november8039
    @november8039 3 ปีที่แล้ว +249

    When I was a kid I asked my mom why Christians put fish stickers on their cars and she told me that it was because Jesus multiplied the fish. Never thought about it after that, wouldn't have guessed it was so old. Groovy.

    • @sikid4000
      @sikid4000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      No it's because Jesus said to Peter he would make him a fisher of man.

    • @jonathansoko5368
      @jonathansoko5368 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      There is no definite answer.

    • @rickn8or
      @rickn8or 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And the Greek letters on the Jesus fish (Iota, Chi Theta, Psi, Epsilon) stand for "I Cross Over Yonder Estuary" .

    • @kori228
      @kori228 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      at first glance I would have thought the fish multiplication story too

    • @mimsay2u
      @mimsay2u ปีที่แล้ว

      Fish insignia’s on cars and businesses also indicate -Dude, I am one of you and we are super moral people and why don’t YOU Have a fish sticker? Age old is the desire to belong, we are all wired for connection. I personally find it a turn-off and un-inclusive.
      I was just in the Citidel of Fagaras in Romania (1310) where the knights chairs, in fact all the hugely oversized restored chairs and throne had identical sets of 2 fish (over and under), carved in a circle on each chair back. I was told that the reference was Christianity. But I’m intrigued about the Pisces reference, particularly after seeing these carvings. 12th astrological sign, derived from the symbol of the fish, Ichthyocentaurs, aided Aphrodite when she was born from the sea. Perhaps one inspired the other?

  • @natelogos7662
    @natelogos7662 3 ปีที่แล้ว +241

    I love how in all of your videos you successfully appear impartial, just looking at where the evidence leads without making value judgments. That's a rare thing in the world today. Keep it up.

    • @orangedalmatian
      @orangedalmatian 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      a little ironic then that he promotes Bart Erhman's work. Not to say that Bart doesn't have any scholarly credibility, but just that (at least imho) he comes off far too often as allowing his own personal biases leak into his work, where sometimes he feels less like he's studying christian scripture honestly and more like he's trying to debunk it regardless of where the evidence points to.
      Luckily ReligionForBreakfast does not fall into this behavior, love his content and how he approaches it.

    • @jerrydillon9191
      @jerrydillon9191 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep

    • @J.F.331
      @J.F.331 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@orangedalmatian
      I agree Religion For Breakfast always seems impartial which is nice to hear. I think the problem with Bart Ehrman is he’s a sell out. I think he goes whatever direction sells more books and keeps him relevant.

    • @orangedalmatian
      @orangedalmatian 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@J.F.331 yes exactly. Ehrman has sorta found his niche crowd and is content with just regurgitating their established opinions back at them, even if the arguments no longer hold water. RfB I feel is a real envelope pusher in the field of religious studies, he sure has taught me many things.

    • @rusty4150
      @rusty4150 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No I think he's just your typical interlectual christian full of head knowledge and not heart knowledge which the bible warnes us about.

  • @indyxpbullion2422
    @indyxpbullion2422 3 ปีที่แล้ว +178

    So this is the early version of Kilroy...
    Fish graffiti = “Jesus was here” 😂

  • @eid8fkebe7f27ejdjdjduyhsvqhwu2
    @eid8fkebe7f27ejdjdjduyhsvqhwu2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +452

    I dunno, with all these fish depictions and comparison I think the ancient authors wanted to say that Jesus was not human, but a literal walking, talking, preaching fish, probably a carp(enter). I'm gonna write the history channel to have them investigate this further.

    • @danielpalma1426
      @danielpalma1426 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      LoL

    • @sileverything
      @sileverything 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @avishalom2000lm
      @avishalom2000lm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Come to think of it, wasn't there a Sumerian God or demigod that was in the form of a fish, that taught people civilization or something?

    • @anthonysteellarenas7367
      @anthonysteellarenas7367 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@avishalom2000lm maybe a reference to Loki the norse trickster god hidden in the form of a fish

    • @atheodorasurname6936
      @atheodorasurname6936 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@avishalom2000lm That Babylonian god-man in fish attire was named Dagon or Oannes. The latter name is akin to Iohannes, John, who baptizes Jesus with river water.

  • @cuckoophendula8211
    @cuckoophendula8211 3 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    I remember having this phase in high school when I became a massive Carl Jung nerd and read about how he referred to the Christian era the "age of Pisces" (coinciding the astrological solstices with each approximate 2000+ year period). He also talked about his account of supposed "synchronicities" when he kept being faced with the fish symbol one day, which inspired him to put a lot of his life's work on that symbol thereafter. Amusingly, this was before I heard anything about a "Jesus fish," and it totally blew my mind when I encountered one separately.

    • @ks5553
      @ks5553 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @Neuhauser Stefan After Taurus was Aries, the ram, or lamb. But you are still correct, it's all based on astrology and star charts, or the Great Year as Plato called it. 2160 years per "month" with the entire cycle taking 25,920 years to complete. After the bull worship era there was the Ram. Ancient Egypt is full of Ram idolatry, and the Bible has more than a few lamb references. You can find them everywhere from 2000BC to 0. Then the age of Pisces begins and we have the fish representing Jesus, the dominant religious figure of the last 2000 years. We are now in between Pisces and Aquarius (the exact dates are debated as a single degree of the great year is 72 years long). Unfortunately none of this helps me pick the winning lottery numbers though :( 😆

    • @redfullmoon
      @redfullmoon ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Pisces was my first thought too. Additionally, in anatomical astrology Pisces is related to the feet and Jesus was also famous for the washing of the feet.

    • @nicomoreno5028
      @nicomoreno5028 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ks5553 When Abraham went to sacrifice his son Isaac, the angel of the Lord told him that theory was pleased with his obedience and that he didn't have to go through with it. When he cut his son loose they found a ram to sacrifice. Maybe a reference to aries?
      Once the Israelites leave Egypt, Moses goes into the mountains to pray (there God provides him with the commandments). When he returns, his people are worshipping a calf of molten gold. Maybe a reference to Taurus?
      There's a part in the book of Mark where Jesus tells two of his disciples that when they go into the city there will be a man waiting for them with a pitcher of water (water bearer), and they are to follow him into a building. That kind of sounds like the age of pices following the age of aquarius.
      Maybe I'm stretching these. Idk.

    • @ks5553
      @ks5553 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nicomoreno5028 I don't think it's too much of a stretch. Almost all ancient literature is full of processional age-related information as they paid much closer attention to the stars than we do these days. I'm not familiar with the story of Jesus and the man with the pitcher, but it's always possible. One thing to keep in mind is that the processional cycle actually moves backward through the zodiac because of the wobble motion, so Aquarius comes after Pisces. Maybe that makes a difference in that story? I have no idea really.
      Some people think that the golden calf story is a reference to Taurus, and that the reason Moses was so upset is because it was an idol from the former age (I believe that story took place during Aries) And the Bible does go on quite a bit there about how, basically Aaron (who Moses left in charge) was an idiot and the people were being foolish and stupid by making the calf idol. Moses then ground the idol to dust and mixed it with water then made the people drink it, literally eating their mistake. I'm no scholar so I can't really say for sure, but I do know that you find processional numbers and symbols all throughout the Bible. And the book of Revelations is jam packed with them front to back. But you also find them in ancient Egypt, Sumer, India, China, and even the Maya and other south American cultures

    • @fraternitas5117
      @fraternitas5117 ปีที่แล้ว

      This idea predates Jung by quite a bit, Aleister Crowley referenced it a great deal and I think Madame Blavatsky did as well.

  • @collinwadham6582
    @collinwadham6582 3 ปีที่แล้ว +296

    "I will make you a Fisher of men."

    • @DallasMay
      @DallasMay 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      "And we are gonna GUT THE ROMANS!"
      -Thing Jesus didn't say.

    • @CorbCorbin
      @CorbCorbin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It was Dagon’s first. Just another stolen idea to make Christianity’s smorgasbord from other religions.

    • @rikib.3444
      @rikib.3444 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The Fisher King

    • @collinwadham6582
      @collinwadham6582 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@CorbCorbin No...no other teaching follows or was seen, as far as we can see, like the teaching of Christ.
      But we must read His words to know that.

    • @SmartVideosJarkaWatched
      @SmartVideosJarkaWatched 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I'm surprised if RFB didn't mention this.

  • @merrittanimation7721
    @merrittanimation7721 3 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    11:54
    "I think to honor our dead relative we should get something public and long lasting so everyone can see it even generations into the future"
    "I like that idea"
    "And put out super secret cipher on it to honor his beliefs despite the possibility it might get us all killed."
    "I'm sorry what?"

  • @danielpaulson8838
    @danielpaulson8838 3 ปีที่แล้ว +126

    It's so nice to get information, without another version of a sermon. Thank you.

    • @notme5205
      @notme5205 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Still think sermons are pointless or do you not see the world falling apart around you 😂.

    • @danielpaulson8838
      @danielpaulson8838 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@notme5205Sermons don't fix that. They drive it by maintaining a perpetuation of supernatural and tribal ignorance. People need to start learning for themselves and not following their modern Pharisees.😇

    • @notme5205
      @notme5205 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@danielpaulson8838 Oh so what should we do then wise one? You must have some idea of what should we do then.

  • @redapol5678
    @redapol5678 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I love that these explanations are based on actual historical evidence which can be analysed and verified rather than just relying on tradition and trusting that tradition just because we’re told to

  • @thedebatehitman
    @thedebatehitman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    Yay! I have something to keep me entertained during my lunch break.

    • @ShreyashUSA
      @ShreyashUSA 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Have a fulfilling meal

    • @daleblue22
      @daleblue22 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Did you enjoyed your Tilapia?

    • @thedebatehitman
      @thedebatehitman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@daleblue22
      I had leftover vegan tortilla soup from the day before, Taco Tuesday. But I definitely enjoyed the video

    • @daleblue22
      @daleblue22 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Ramiro Moreno get over it dude. Your club Jesus is losing members more than ever. People are eating because is getting outdated and way to radical. We live on a cycle and we are meant to keep moving forward.

    • @daleblue22
      @daleblue22 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Ramiro Moreno oh sorry I meant to say Club Yeshua. Or you may wanna ask the Hebrews why they never wanted to join the club 😉?

  • @stevencahn4019
    @stevencahn4019 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I have been bingeing this channel for a couple of days now and it is fascinating. I am getting all the answers for questions I asked when I was a Christian but was told then "the Bible says so", "God says so", "I say so" or the mother of all answers to shutdown my questions, "God works in mysterious ways and it is not for you to question them.

    • @buckarooben7635
      @buckarooben7635 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I am so sorry for our failure to teach. You deserved better.

  • @zerospacer
    @zerospacer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    Astrologically, the beginning of the age of Pisces (Fishes) was at hand.

    • @Shadow_from_the_sun
      @Shadow_from_the_sun 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Yes, this! In the New Testament the disciples ask Jesus what to look for and the end of the AGE, and he responds by telling them to look for a man bearing a pitcher of water (The Age of Aquarius). There's other examples of Astrotheology/Astrological ages in the Bible, such as Moses shattering the golden calf symbolized the end of the Age of Taurus, in the book of Genesis, Adam and Eve symbolized the Age of Gemini. Not just the in the Bible but across many ancient cultures.

    • @jocelynflowers
      @jocelynflowers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@Shadow_from_the_sun other Christians are attacking me because I’m telling them about the astrology connection🤦🏽‍♀️

    • @ikengaspirit3063
      @ikengaspirit3063 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@jocelynflowers don't let them get you down

    • @jocelynflowers
      @jocelynflowers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ikengaspirit3063 thank you :)

    • @Shadow_from_the_sun
      @Shadow_from_the_sun 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@jocelynflowers that's expected unfortunately. Don't let them get to you because you think for yourself and are a rational individual. Have compassion for them too.. it must really suck being deathly afraid of different things that can challenge your fragile world view.

  • @matthewreynolds8068
    @matthewreynolds8068 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I was so glad to hear the honorable mention of the zodiac theory! These videos are hard not to binge. I've been on a bit of a spiritual journey, and this down to earth presentation style is SO good

    • @timg5603
      @timg5603 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s really cool that you’re searching! how do you view jesus?

    • @matthewreynolds8068
      @matthewreynolds8068 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@timg5603 I am definitely still learning! In my mind Jesus was an honorable person, with a great knowledge of scripture, and a great message of peace and love. Worth respecting, and looking up to 100%

  • @gunnaryoung
    @gunnaryoung 3 ปีที่แล้ว +174

    Another way a fish can be connected to baptism is if you consider the story of Jonah to be a symbol for baptism. He was swallowed by a large fish and then emerged from it after having repented.

    • @jkjerbdhetheth
      @jkjerbdhetheth 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The Jonah connection is present numerous terms in the text and I think the most likely connection

    • @changer1285
      @changer1285 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Wait! Its literally Jesus in the big fish, and he did say the only sign he'd give the corrupt generation was the sign of jonah in the belly of the big fish. Definitely onto something with the Jonah stuff.

    • @MicahMicahel
      @MicahMicahel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Fish imagery is everywhere... “ I’ll make you fishers of men” The sign of Jonah.. some of the apostles were fishermen...

    • @HeroC14
      @HeroC14 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      He repented but he also died to his old self and obeyed God to preach to the Assyrians of Nineveh(literally means fishing village by the way) after 3 days. The Assyrians repented and believed after Jonah came to them.
      Absolutely the sign of Jonah. Jonah means God's Dove, the same Dove that is represented by the Holy Spirit. Remember the Dove also returns signs of dry land for Noah and his family in the story of the Flood.
      Jesus himself brings the Holy Spirit through his death and resurrection to all mankind because he is God himself in the flesh. The fish is the sign of repentance, death to the old self, and hope for those drowning without God to catch them.

    • @HeroC14
      @HeroC14 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      But he answered them, “An evil and adulterous generation seeks for a sign, but no sign will be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah. For just as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
      Matthew 12:39‭-‬40 ESV

  • @letsomethingshine
    @letsomethingshine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Pagan and Christians 1st and 2nd century writers: the first "short-hand" texters.

    • @disguisedcentennial835
      @disguisedcentennial835 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They needed to, in order to save paper, which was more expensive. He forgot about that part. You can see shortcuts taken by the Gospel writers, as well, because of this need to conserve paper.

    • @Ucedo95
      @Ucedo95 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Turns out vowel-less, sylabic, etc. writing systems were right all along

  • @thoperSought
    @thoperSought 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    so, if Romans having Greek tutors was really as widespread as I've imagined, then would the ancient Roman version of the "the Great Courses Plus" have been "the Greek Courses Plus"?

  • @riverstone100
    @riverstone100 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It is fascinating how the eight-spoked wheel can function as a cipher for Christ, as well as the Dharmachakra, representing virtue in Hinduism and Buddhism.

  • @empiricalandinquirical2435
    @empiricalandinquirical2435 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    7:30
    Dang, that’s actually a pretty cool gang sign. Looks like modern graffiti. We already had subcultures going on 2,000 years ago.

    • @changer1285
      @changer1285 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      You should check out the Sigils in Key of Solomon the King and the Lesser key of Solomon. All sorts of stuff like that. Modern esotericists have descriptions of how to construct sigils, which is kinda like hiding words in the pictures. Imagine that image over a grid that has letters in each square, then think of all the loops and doops as additional detail. Not sure how that sports one was made though.
      Oh yeah and lots of the imagery in gang graffiti is from esoteric stuff too.

    • @themadhattress5008
      @themadhattress5008 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I mean, subcultures are literally nothing new and have popped up here and there all throughout history.

    • @lickmyfuckinnuts
      @lickmyfuckinnuts 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      There is nothing new Under the Sun

    • @wendyleeconnelly2939
      @wendyleeconnelly2939 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lickmyfuckinnuts the more things change, the more things stay the same

    • @lyndawall2860
      @lyndawall2860 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Every “established culture” we have/ever had was a subculture at one point or another until enough people were a part of it.

  • @kuroazrem5376
    @kuroazrem5376 3 ปีที่แล้ว +156

    It could be because the Bible says Jesus is a "fisher of men".

    • @RalphEllis
      @RalphEllis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      The fish is a symbol of the precessional Great Month of Pisces.
      This era started in AD 10, when Aries (sheep) changed to Pisces (fish).
      That is why Jesus was a Lamb of God (Aries), who became a Fisher of Men (Pisces).
      That is why Alexander the Great was linked to ram’s horns.
      Incidentally, the fish and anchor symbol, was the motif of Emperor Vespasian.
      See the book: Jesus, King of Edessa.
      R.

    • @DneilB007
      @DneilB007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      The “fishers of men” reference is Jesus talking to his disciples, specifically his early disciples who were fishermen. It’s not used to refer to Jesus at all.

    • @danieldoremus5812
      @danieldoremus5812 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      The 'fishers of men' bit is mostly a pun made in English translations of the Bible. If you read the Hebrew or Greek versions they don't have that same, almost comedic flair. They have the same meaning without the word play.

    • @baronofbahlingen9662
      @baronofbahlingen9662 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @Morgue VØID Ah yes, Protestant conspiracy theorism. I will be sure to ignore.

    • @KingMessiah1999
      @KingMessiah1999 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DneilB007 its to refer that they will gather people to follow Jesus

  • @kakarroto007
    @kakarroto007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Thanks for sharing that, that was really cool. I always just assumed the fish symbolized when Jesus fed that starving village with a fish and bread, and that he was a "Fisher of men".

    • @nineteenfortyeight6762
      @nineteenfortyeight6762 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      There was no starving village. Just a poorly-planned wedding.

    • @laurensung3196
      @laurensung3196 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      2 fishes = 2 eyes
      5 bread = 5 Grace of God
      2 + 5 = 7 spirit of God
      *water - wine - blood = Christ eternal within body*
      All start with simple things 😉 5 Fingers & 2 Hand = PRAY (worship - Praise) and sharing - caring in love, and believe our Heavenly Father and His Son be multiple all for us. That's why Jesus said *BELIEVE*
      You *BELIEVE* first and you *SEE*
      But now Christian peoples SEE first and BELIEVE 🤦

    • @clauaome25
      @clauaome25 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @William Burns I guess he means that fish have the shape of an eye, so two eyes...

  • @ganmerlad
    @ganmerlad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I went to Ephasus and the tour guide pointed out the circle and spokes (which was carved into stone in good number of places) being a Christian symbol, but never explained why -- so I've just been thinking "pizza" for the last few decades whenever Ephasus comes up. Glad you finally cleared it up for me. Now I need to explain it to my mom who was on the trip too. :p

  • @jeanvford
    @jeanvford 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Kudos for including bibliographies with your videos!

  • @michaelmaddux7375
    @michaelmaddux7375 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It's the Vesica Piscis. The same symbol was used in early bible art, church paintings and building carvings. Usually with the Christ sitting inside it. Add a third circle and you get the common Christian trinity symbol too.

  • @zepledfan413
    @zepledfan413 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Dude I could watch these videos for years. This stuff is so interesting!!!

  • @oniricodosfatos8286
    @oniricodosfatos8286 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great video! Salutions from Brazil. The fish imagery is pretty popular here as well

  • @youareivan
    @youareivan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    i've always associated the fish with the feeding of the multitudes, but there are so many fish and fisherman references it seems like it would be weird if symbology related to fish/fishing wasn't associated with the early christians.

    • @charitybrook6279
      @charitybrook6279 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I always thought that it was because we are to be fishers of men like Peter?

    • @alanpennie8013
      @alanpennie8013 ปีที่แล้ว

      The miraculous draft is definitely the fishiest story (as it were) in The Gospels
      We get two different accounts (Luke 5, and John 21) so it appears to have been pretty well known.

  • @Acc3ssd3n13d4
    @Acc3ssd3n13d4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Pisces.

  • @annonimooseq1246
    @annonimooseq1246 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    In 2000 years (of we’re still here) there’s going to be a video or video equivalent just like this but on where “dank” came from in relation to memes

  • @troygaspard6732
    @troygaspard6732 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    And we know we are Christians by the FISH on our car.

  • @mirandamom1346
    @mirandamom1346 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love your work. Please don’t stop!

  • @jonathanverret6872
    @jonathanverret6872 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You just have a very good, well-researched channel. Informative and in-depth, but still approachable!

  • @MrFTW
    @MrFTW 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another great and fascinating video Andrew, great job once again!

  • @henriquecaldeira
    @henriquecaldeira 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you very much for your precious educational work, sir! God Bless, or May the Force be with you! Whatever suits you best.

  • @allanfulton8922
    @allanfulton8922 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love this channel. Thanks for your wonderful content.

  • @Sevenminussix
    @Sevenminussix 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Finally, a good video over this! I still see these everywhere and it never made sense to me.

  • @HelloThere-xx1ct
    @HelloThere-xx1ct 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    This is a PSA. @ReligionForBreakfast is a Contrapoints stan! Causing me to stan him even harder!

    • @Thessalin
      @Thessalin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I noticed that. RfB is awesome. Take his online class if it's available if you haven't. I really loved the one I did.

  • @beccaorr5412
    @beccaorr5412 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    When I was in Rome there was this symbol on many things, only it was turned up the tip pointed up and the tail down, the guide told us that it was a pagan fertility symbol as it represents the female genitalia. The guide said that earlier Christians took many pagan symbols and holidays and adapted them to Christianity.

    • @jeremiahduran7238
      @jeremiahduran7238 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So they were adopting the pagan fish symbol.

    • @jayytee8062
      @jayytee8062 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Just like the popes mitre hat

    • @jeremiahduran7238
      @jeremiahduran7238 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jayytee8062 is supposed to be a big fish mouth.

    • @tylerhughson8925
      @tylerhughson8925 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The symbol refers to a much older god Dagon. He was half man half fish. He was the god of fish, fertility & a bunch of other stuff. The popes hat looks like his head. Google Dagon.

    • @pinaysaparis6836
      @pinaysaparis6836 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tylerhughson8925 true

  • @nikostheater
    @nikostheater 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    The fish symbol could have been used as a “secret” handshake in specific places and times during persecution, especially Diocletian’s, but it’s existence is because the first letters of the phrase “ Ιησούς Χριστός Θεού Υιός Σωτήρ» (translation: Jesus Christ God’s Son Savior),spell the Greek word for fish «ιχθύς», it was more of a happy accident and an easy symbol to use o differentiate the new faith from Judaism and other religions. It wasn’t the only symbolic sign though, other popular ones were the anchor and the ship, but the fish symbol was by far the most popular before the proliferation of the cross. I have to say ALL the earliest symbols are still being used today ( the fish, the vine, the anchor, the ship, the good shepherd etc) in the Eastern Orthodox Church.

    • @TheoEvian
      @TheoEvian 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah, and basically every baroque catholic church has a statue of an angel standing on an anchor, those symbols are still widely known even outside Orthodoxy. Of course West added its own very complex romanesque and gothic symbolisms and so did the East but really, this is not something overly esoteric. I was surprised when a muslim friend of mine didnt understand "alpha and omega" but let me tell you that most christian denominations should understand what an anchor or a ship means.

    • @Volzotran
      @Volzotran 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pescecution

  • @jerrydillon9191
    @jerrydillon9191 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    U sir have taught me more obscure things than I thought I'd want to know...I WANT MORE thank you

  • @sonidoo5908
    @sonidoo5908 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this video man. I love your way of explaining things.

  • @morganholloman6650
    @morganholloman6650 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I've come to wonder if it isn't connecting the 'birth of christ' to the 'age of Pisces' as a symbolism to reference the age in which we are in, basically being time keeping

    • @vegahimsa3057
      @vegahimsa3057 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Exactly. The ancient Sumerian's made frequent reference to the "Bull of Heaven" (Taurus) associated with agriculture (think of all the now demonized horn gods), the rising constilation of the vernal equinox roughly 7000 years ago. Later religions used the symbol of the Ram (Aries, think of the Hebrews blowing the rams horn marking the new year and festivals). Jesus is the fish and the internet is Aquarius.

    • @benjones5610
      @benjones5610 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@vegahimsa3057 I worry what to think Capricorn (the Goat) would be

    • @bardmadsen6956
      @bardmadsen6956 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@vegahimsa3057 - I watched the video expecting what you said. The Sky Bull is about the Taurid Stream bombarding the earth, one being the 12,900ka Younger Dryas Impact Theory and the other being the 2,300BC Event. It is all about the zodiac, Mark 14:13 Aquarius

    • @vegahimsa3057
      @vegahimsa3057 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@benjones5610 Capricorn, the goat fish, is fascinating to me as he is exactly attributed to the earliest writing of Sumeria, unchanged. Though, I'm curious: what worries you?

    • @nektu5435
      @nektu5435 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I've thought this for some time too and clicked on this video specifically to see if that's what he would talk about.

  • @ianmansfield68
    @ianmansfield68 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I can distinctly remember being told the story at 1:02 in my religious education lessons; thank you for opening up my understanding! I believe that my RE teachers tended to emphasise the persecution of the Christians so maybe that was why they were so ready to accept this theory. Back when I was at school, we didn't have the curriculum that there is now with a diversity of religions to study. This channel is great!

    • @aryhiacarston4734
      @aryhiacarston4734 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I learned about that in my AP Art History class in 2019. Kinda interesting

  • @kaho5004
    @kaho5004 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really enjoy these videos. Keep up the good work

  • @willemkossen
    @willemkossen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always wondered about this. And i always had to resist to draw a hook before it. Very interesting video, thank you

  • @Pieboy636
    @Pieboy636 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I would love to see an episode or series about sacred letters and text. There are so many interesting examples, between the Christian Ichthys, the Celtic ogham, the elder futhark of Scandinavia, and even more occult related scripts like Enochian, or the use of G_d over God in cabalistic religions.

  • @Me2Lancer
    @Me2Lancer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    We can't ignore that when Jesus called Galilean fishermen, he told them "I will make you fishers of men."

    • @nosuchthing8
      @nosuchthing8 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yup

    • @righthomosphere7962
      @righthomosphere7962 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      fishers of men? so they will hunt men for food? i don't get it

    • @maevat.9729
      @maevat.9729 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@righthomosphere7962 ...It's a metaphore. Hope that help🤷‍♀️

    • @Lost_Scarf
      @Lost_Scarf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "You will collect the souls of the humans"

  • @vertdragoon
    @vertdragoon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You really covered all the bases while respecting the differences between theory, fact, and interpretation.

  • @EllisMontes
    @EllisMontes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! I love that Egyptian display behind you!

  • @toxendon
    @toxendon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Rocking that beard, I must say!

  • @samernammari8785
    @samernammari8785 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome work, Andrew! I'm devouring your material these days. This is an interesting subject as the fish bumper sticker is popular among the local Christian community in Jerusalem.

  • @metalground212
    @metalground212 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are so smart. A lot of really interesting content thanks for sharing!!!

  • @t.garcia
    @t.garcia 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks bro for your services!

  • @det.bullock4461
    @det.bullock4461 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    A thought crossed my mind: what if with Peter apparently being a fisherman he just went full Siuan Sanche peppering his sermons with fisherman proverbs and metaphors?

  • @jeythecount6546
    @jeythecount6546 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Actually the fish thing was in the "Quo Vadis" book as well. It wasn't a Hollywood addition.

    • @letsomethingshine
      @letsomethingshine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Isn't that exactly what ReligionForBreaskfast said? That Hollywood popularized it against the cross (in meme competition) more than the books in the 1800s (which RFB said was the first time the fish thing was mentioned as a "secrete handshake" rather than just an obvious symbol like all other Christian symbols used in early times (also pagans used their own symbols). Paganism writes less because Judaism emphasizes the importance of writing way more (similar to how Egyptians emphasized the importance of writing with a GOD OF WRITING, something the Greeks really didn't have popularly).

    • @merrittanimation7721
      @merrittanimation7721 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@letsomethingshine What do you mean? The Greeks have plenty of writing even if they didn't have a specific god for it.

  • @SciPunk215
    @SciPunk215 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the knowledge download !

  • @quintustheophilus9550
    @quintustheophilus9550 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wohooooo! A new video! ¡Muchísimas gracias!

  • @patta14
    @patta14 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The story about the handshake is interesting. The version that I was told (I live in Germany) was always that christians under roman persecution would mark their houses with a fish to let other christians know, that other christians were living there.

  • @lilsaam
    @lilsaam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I love your channel!! Religion is so interesting

  • @saityavuz76
    @saityavuz76 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you, been curious about this.

  • @contentstarved991
    @contentstarved991 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The mystical aspect of the acrostic is probably the best explanation for the fish.

  • @dustinellerbe4125
    @dustinellerbe4125 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Great show! Can you do one on the NOMINA SACRA

  • @GaramondGourmond
    @GaramondGourmond 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I was always told that the fish was supposed to denote his original birth, not in winter, but instead was born as a Pisces's. Thus the fish was his symbol.

  • @raulramos5246
    @raulramos5246 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent dissertation. I will share this video with everyone I know is interested in true values and spiritual solid support.

  • @yvandeboer4188
    @yvandeboer4188 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good documentary. Thank you.

  • @donsample1002
    @donsample1002 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I think the cross won out over the fish as the main symbol for early Christianity, because a fish is useless for warding off vampires, unless the fish is really ripe, but no one wants to keep one of those around.

    • @Queezbo
      @Queezbo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ha!

    • @nunyabiznes33
      @nunyabiznes33 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just use dried salty fishy. If the vampire ever sets it aflame with its infernal glare at least you'd have something to eat.

  • @andrewsuryali8540
    @andrewsuryali8540 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    My first encounter with the modern Jesus fish was actually of a four-legged Darwin fish.

    • @iagoofdraiggwyn98
      @iagoofdraiggwyn98 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I always found that one to be funny

    • @DallasMay
      @DallasMay 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My favorite was always the Darwin lizard mounting the Jesus fish. I mean, if you are going to go blasphemous, might as well go all in.

    • @thelemonddropskid5445
      @thelemonddropskid5445 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cthulhu fish

    • @piperar2014
      @piperar2014 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jesus fish
      Darwin fish
      Truth fish eats Darwin fish
      I don't remember what came next

    • @NovaSaber
      @NovaSaber 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@piperar2014 Gulpo, the fish that eats concepts.

  • @Nanokarp
    @Nanokarp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ooooh, new channel to binge 👀

  • @ratboy_
    @ratboy_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Such an insanely high-quality video.

    • @seal9390
      @seal9390 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      More like baised and none sense

  • @ny-ne6jq
    @ny-ne6jq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Thanks for a very informative video, like all of your work.
    In the Quran we have 2 Fish stories. The one about Yunus ( Jona), and the second in the Story of Moses in Surat al-Kahf.
    BTW, nice beard😊

    • @meenamoon7930
      @meenamoon7930 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Clearing throat

    • @varghesecherian6610
      @varghesecherian6610 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Kiran gets its wrong as usual.. It's a badly copied book.. Plaugarised..

  • @jvphilip
    @jvphilip 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I always thought it was supposed to be the fish sign made by crossing the index and middle fingers that early Christians used like a secret code and that's where the "fingers crossed" gesture came from too...
    Thanks for all this research!

  • @nigelbryant7980
    @nigelbryant7980 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome video, been very interested in this topic since I read Aion by Carl Jung.

  • @bwtilesetter7776
    @bwtilesetter7776 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video!!

  • @_spacegoat_
    @_spacegoat_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I'm curious to know what you think of Carl Jung's "Aion." He has quite a bit to say on this topic. I know it's not your field of expertise, but it would be pretty interesting to hear what you think about it.

    • @karekarenohay4432
      @karekarenohay4432 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Carl Jung was a modern gnostic, not an historical one.

    • @_spacegoat_
      @_spacegoat_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@karekarenohay4432 No. Jung, according to himself, wasn't a Gnostic, modern or otherwise. Fascinated by Gnosticism, well-read in it, certainly. Regardless, Aion has some very interesting perspectives on the topic of this video.

    • @karekarenohay4432
      @karekarenohay4432 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@_spacegoat_ Many times we don't know people for what they say about themselves, but for what they do. Have your read Jung's Seven Sermons to the Dead? The Red Book? They are incredible samples of pure Gnosticism, and they weren't intended to be shown to the public, but privately or for a few (just the meaning of the word "esoteric"). I think Psychologists and Psychiatrists fear the brand of "non-scientific" (or worse, "pseudoscience") that many scientists give to Psychoanalysis since Freud's era. If Jung believed in a transformation of the being through a spiritual esoteric knowledge (that is, if he were a modern Gnostic), logically he wouldn't say it openly because his career would be affected. His works speak for him, however.
      I strongly recommend you the book The Gnostic Jung, by Stephan Hoeller, where the author concludes Jung was indeed a new Gnostic by the research of some works of him, mainly Seven Sermons to the Dead. It's a fascinating reading.

    • @josephang9927
      @josephang9927 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@karekarenohay4432 Gnosticism has a lot of rationale behind why current Christians believe what they believe. Jung used them to explain a lot.

    • @vigilque9427
      @vigilque9427 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes! The fish is a symbol of unconscious content, according to Jung and I concur.
      Check my comment and link in main thread.

  • @blackbeastantoine
    @blackbeastantoine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    precession of the equinoxes

    • @AcornsBest
      @AcornsBest 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Take that idea with a grain of salt. It is Carl Yung's Theory. Look him up. Interesting Character.

  • @Davidsavage8008
    @Davidsavage8008 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice work.

  • @olinayoung6287
    @olinayoung6287 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome, thanks!

  • @emilymaguire3163
    @emilymaguire3163 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good thing I'm learning Greek, really helps me learn some ancient Greek

  • @Birdinandpo
    @Birdinandpo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey have you talked about Ronald K Siegel and his research about elephants having a religion? It’s so fascinating and I’d love to hear your perspective on it.

  • @jonathansoko5368
    @jonathansoko5368 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for your opinions, man

  • @seankerr9158
    @seankerr9158 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this video. Okay, looking into this experientially, it also seems to be a fairly powerful esoteric initiation. Quite special as a remnant of early Christianity that can still be obtained and made use of. It opens up the brow region (and more and more the crown region with repeated use). It connects these areas to Christ energies and forges a connection to these. It’s still very much accessible. You can receive it by asking your higher self to facilitate your reception of the “Ichthus initiation”, or “an empowerment for the use of the Ichthus acronym (Iesou Christos Theou Huios Soter)”. Activates by saying “Ichthus”

  • @daddyleon
    @daddyleon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    9:20 the way it's drawn...yes, mem written all over it.

  • @LeeMSnow
    @LeeMSnow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Your use of a definite article to describe Bart Ehrman as THE leading scholar on Christianity is a tad misleading given that he is ONE OF the leading scholar(S) of Christianity but given that there is no ordination board to give the preeminent place among scholars.

  • @sense7thinnertainmenthdtv764
    @sense7thinnertainmenthdtv764 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro ... I love what you do

  • @weareallbornmad410
    @weareallbornmad410 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A quick correction: Quo Vadis was actually a 1895-1896 book (published in chunks in the press every week), and only a lot later a film. Drawing a fish is an important scene in the book, as it outs the heroine as a Christian. So the idea is a lot later than just "recent years.)

  • @thedarkshitstain
    @thedarkshitstain 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Have you done a video on John M. Allegro, the sacred mushroom and the cross? What's that all about, is it legitimate?

    • @atheodorasurname6936
      @atheodorasurname6936 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love that fascinating book! The Roman Catholic Church and a big beer corporation, I think Anheuser-Busch, tried to get it banned. That gives me even more reasons to love it.

  • @judemorales4U
    @judemorales4U 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Well researched and well done. (I do love the theory of the secret code though. I will keep it🌺) It may not be linked to persecution but I think fish were used extensively as well presented here and as for the openess of placing them on monuments, well, perhaps there were safe areas or just a personal stance of inscribing what one believed in. I do think that it could have a "secret handshake" in some cases, irrespective of persecution theories. 😊

  • @nycgingercat
    @nycgingercat 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fascinating!

  • @FriendlierFetus
    @FriendlierFetus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    0:46 Strange to think that I was taught this in school, only about 12 years ago.

  • @Nyyckaulhas
    @Nyyckaulhas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In French, the words for fisherman and for sinner are homonyms. As a child it would always leave me confused, as I was never sure which was used in Christian texts. Were Simon Peter, Andrew, James and John fishermen or sinners when they started to follow Jesus? And I believed for a long time that the Fisher King was in fact the Sinner King (thus explaining the wastelands of his kingdom). I always wondered if this confusion of words exist in other languages. In Latin the words are close (piscator/peccator) but not homonymous. Anyway, this added yet another layer to the connexion between Jesus and the fish, saving sinners and fishermen alike.

    • @kalburgy2114
      @kalburgy2114 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      This could also explain why the relationship between the French and the Church is unlike anywhere else.

  • @thomasdolcelli4969
    @thomasdolcelli4969 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I always wanted to know were the fish came from. And this video just made things more complicated. 😂😂😂 love the video.

    • @Noname-xn5tl
      @Noname-xn5tl 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/qM-LfgYBnpI/w-d-xo.html

  • @SpiritualWhiplash
    @SpiritualWhiplash 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome!!! Thank you!

  • @artemisg6463
    @artemisg6463 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    With age comes wisdom I watched because I wondered if I got it wrong nope but thank you I learned something new.

  • @danielpaulson8838
    @danielpaulson8838 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    And, I love your background. I see a Quran, The Nag Hammadi, Pyramids, an Ankh, Jesus and Shiva side by side. Looks a lot like my book shelves. If only religions were this open minded. We could have world peace.

  • @robbabcock_
    @robbabcock_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Fascinating! I tend to concur, it's unlikely to have resulted from persecution. There's a long tradition of shorthand use of symbols or abbreviations for sacred words. The most famous of which is probably Xmas.

    • @AlwayzADelight
      @AlwayzADelight 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was raised being taught it was because Jesus said to his followers "I will make you fisher of men".
      Jesus made us fisher of men, because we are supposed to lead mankind to God. Through teaching them about the love, peace, compassion, forgiveness and grace of God, and we are to do that by being a living example of those very things to everyone we meet.

  • @ArielRyanBautista1313
    @ArielRyanBautista1313 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The sator square has been theorised to be a similar symbol used to mark meeting places for christians, as the sator square contains the "pater noster" acrostic symbols letters

  • @Madison__
    @Madison__ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super interesting! Cool video :)