As a Dutch student, I actually really enjoyed the film ANNE+, even though the first 2 seasons were... uh... Either way, de Vries did a wonderful job in that.
Wow Thorn, this speech is so amazing it litterally made me cry. Thank you for teaching the people a valuable lesson about the importance of equality. I’m Cis-gender, and I’m still learning, but I’m doing a lot of research on prejudices towards non-binary people for a project and this is the best, clearest speech out of the many I’ve seen. You are truly an amazing person and I hope you hold many more inspiring speeches like these. Keep fighting. 😁❤️
What an amazing individual. Thorn, I think you are fabulous, and I so respect you for dragging this world kicking and screaming into the 21st century. Keep it up.
@@Tbone.357 Of course it is lol That's what an opinion is. OC thought they're hot, I definitely agree they're attractive. Those are our opinions. You apparently do not share that opinion. And that's fine.
Thank you so much for being willing to put yourself out there and embody such resilience… as others have said, this is really empowering to watch. My own revelations of my gender identity happened relatively late in life (within the last couple years, im 24) probably due to the lack of non-binary visibility, and I really look up to you for this!! we’re here & we’re queer 🥳
When I observe Thorn, I see a biological female attempting to conform to the sociological norms associated with what is often expected of a male. Thereby she can perfectly fit within the binary world she speaks of. Regardless of how she perceives herself, I can identify her in a manner that serves my understanding. While it is undeniable that social norms evolve over time, they have endured for thousands of years for a particular purpose: to simplify life and establish order. These norms are constructed to cater to the needs and expectations of the majority, fostering social cohesion, shared values, and a sense of belonging. This, in turn, promotes stability and the harmonious functioning of a society. Attempting to alter these norms to accommodate the minority or even the individual can be seen as a self-centered endeavor, as it has the potential to lead to polarization and societal instability in the long run.
Shes wearing a suit and has a more male style haircut, but I could tell quickly that shes a female, and a sweet one at that. Its sad she thinks she "non binary" just because shes a little different.
Yeah right, that idea goes out the window when it comes to Conservatives and Republicans. This DEI drivel is a million tines more worse than the system it claims to be fighting against. The hypocrisy would be hilarious if it wasn't so dangerous
I was not shocked. As I with purpose chose this video clip. I love your inspiring story. I will say non-binary is still puzzling to me, however, because it is becoming more and more a talking matter I have made it a purpose to learn about this topic so I can talk intelligently and caring. You deserve representation. Thanks for sharing and mostly opening my eyes wider and clearer. Lots of kisses and hugs.
Why non binary,is not androgynous?most woman to be nonbinary ten to the masculine expression,and men towards the femenine expression,it is just visual,I know,but if you feel nonbinary,neither one of them,why the expression , in dressing is not more neutral as well.with absolute respect......
hiya, i get you're point dude, and if you care to hear mine that would be cool. I guess that is the most obvious form of non-binary, it is the most striking and sticks in our head the most as it is the presentation of someone going against what the binary has put on them. Visual presentation is one thing and perhaps their other attributes are have both feminine and masculine and other traits. But also maybe they don't, some non-binary people are like as thorn said "fem non-binary". I heard on another ted talks that gender is less of a spectrum, less left or right and more like constellations. Every constellation has different stars and they together make up a different pattern. And so, you can relate this to gender if it works for you. Sometimes the stars will be masculine traits feminine traits or just traits and together they will make up the person, the constellation. Every constellation is different. Some you can compare to others and some you cannot. This fluidity and complexitiy and difference exists in our universe and in us too, i believe.
i believe androgynous is more focusing on the physical visual presentation of someone rather than their gender identification. Please tho correct me if i am wrong.
Zodiac only say which month you were born nothing else. Astrology is not a science, the alignment of the stars at your birth have zero impact on your life.
Hij zegt dat ze ally's nodig hebben? Dat was ik, maar waarom waarderen jullie ze dan niet? Weet je wel wat ik allemaal niet gedaan heb voor de lgbtq gemeenschap? En dan toch ondankbaarheid. Thorn moet zelf weten, dat kunnen wij niet bepalen, maar laat het de keuze van mensen zijn wat wij hiermee willen. We zijn niet verplicht om je accepteren, en het recht op dwingen of toe te spreken heb je niet. Zo werd dit precies in mijn gezicht gezegd. Je hebt geen recht om mijn mening te laten veranderen. Accepteer de mening
Listening to this non-binary individual gives me an insight into how they think. Basically they just want to be in the middle, experience being both male and female at the same time. One can be 75% male and 25% female, while another can be 25% male and 75% female. That being in the middle kind of mentality is something we general public cannot comprehend. They do accept their biology on what they were born to start with, but mentally they are something else. One non-binary person can choose to have a child (that is if that person is biologically female capable of bearing a child) while taking testosterone trying to become 25% more male, and have a non-binary partner who is biologically male is taking estrogen trying to be 25% female. Its mind bending to even try to comprehend this absurdity.
They are just labeling emotions in order to feel special because they always have low to zero self-esteem, literally everyone is a combination of male and female traits/expressions etc, it doesn't need any damn labels to fit every little variation, they are NORMAL human emotions and have just being popularised for attention, no one cares unless you shove it in their face 24/7.
Um, no?? You say they're "confused" because you don't like what this person said, and you want a justification to disregard it. If you're going to disagree with someone, that is the laziest and most pathetic way. Maybe try keeping your mouth shut unless you have something more valuable to contribute to the comments.
@@marieboddaert both very very rare and wouldn't come out looking like a perfectly healthy person. But this person right here I guarantee doesn't have any of the things you mentioned
@@liezelola in intersexuality they might have resemblance of both genitalia parts but they still only have XX or XY chromosome. they have a uterus or they don't. Nobody in the world has ovaries and testes.
Humanity is Ready To Understand. This is Historical. Thank you
As a Dutch student, I actually really enjoyed the film ANNE+, even though the first 2 seasons were... uh... Either way, de Vries did a wonderful job in that.
Fem presenting nonbinary is my thing
Wow Thorn, this speech is so amazing it litterally made me cry. Thank you for teaching the people a valuable lesson about the importance of equality. I’m Cis-gender, and I’m still learning, but I’m doing a lot of research on prejudices towards non-binary people for a project and this is the best, clearest speech out of the many I’ve seen. You are truly an amazing person and I hope you hold many more inspiring speeches like these. Keep fighting. 😁❤️
This is so empowering to watch. Thank you Thorn!
So true.
You make this so perfectly clear! I love it!
What an amazing individual. Thorn, I think you are fabulous, and I so respect you for dragging this world kicking and screaming into the 21st century. Keep it up.
This was super inspiring but I was also very distracted because Thorn is so dAmn HOT
That is definitely your own opinion.
I’m glad you found it inspiring but don’t objectify them, their body doesn’t exist for you
@@Tbone.357 Of course it is lol That's what an opinion is. OC thought they're hot, I definitely agree they're attractive. Those are our opinions. You apparently do not share that opinion. And that's fine.
Super fijne talk Thorn, het motiveert me enorm te ontdekken wat ik nog meer kan betekenen voor onze samenleving.
I agree with Thorns, we need a paradigm shift of our social system!!
No we don't.
Thank you so much for being willing to put yourself out there and embody such resilience… as others have said, this is really empowering to watch. My own revelations of my gender identity happened relatively late in life (within the last couple years, im 24) probably due to the lack of non-binary visibility, and I really look up to you for this!! we’re here & we’re queer 🥳
Don't worry! 24 is still very young ^^ My parent figured out they were NB when they were in their 50s. All is possible!
wow. I can't take my eyes off of Thorn
When I observe Thorn, I see a biological female attempting to conform to the sociological norms associated with what is often expected of a male. Thereby she can perfectly fit within the binary world she speaks of. Regardless of how she perceives herself, I can identify her in a manner that serves my understanding.
While it is undeniable that social norms evolve over time, they have endured for thousands of years for a particular purpose: to simplify life and establish order. These norms are constructed to cater to the needs and expectations of the majority, fostering social cohesion, shared values, and a sense of belonging. This, in turn, promotes stability and the harmonious functioning of a society.
Attempting to alter these norms to accommodate the minority or even the individual can be seen as a self-centered endeavor, as it has the potential to lead to polarization and societal instability in the long run.
Thank you!!!
Yes Thorn!! Thank you.
yes!! thank you 💗
😂😂😂fairy
Shes wearing a suit and has a more male style haircut, but I could tell quickly that shes a female, and a sweet one at that. Its sad she thinks she "non binary" just because shes a little different.
She just has an internal hatred. Someone told her women have to feel a certain way to be a woman. All one needs is a woman's body.
This is so powerful
Thanks for your wonderful statement Thorn, representation matters and thanks for being part of it :)
Yeah right, that idea goes out the window when it comes to Conservatives and Republicans. This DEI drivel is a million tines more worse than the system it claims to be fighting against. The hypocrisy would be hilarious if it wasn't so dangerous
Powerful. Im in. I appreciate being taught.
I was not shocked. As I with purpose chose this video clip. I love your inspiring story. I will say non-binary is still puzzling to me, however, because it is becoming more and more a talking matter I have made it a purpose to learn about this topic so I can talk intelligently and caring. You deserve representation. Thanks for sharing and mostly opening my eyes wider and clearer. Lots of kisses and hugs.
Very inspiring Thorn! So ready to go back on track with making the world a little bit better ❤
Goed gedaan 👍. Dit was zo interessant. Ik herkende een deel van mijzelf hierin. Dit raakte mij.
I didnt think in the first seven seconds you were going to lie to the audience.
Why non binary,is not androgynous?most woman to be nonbinary ten to the masculine expression,and men towards the femenine expression,it is just visual,I know,but if you feel nonbinary,neither one of them,why the expression , in dressing is not more neutral as well.with absolute respect......
hiya, i get you're point dude, and if you care to hear mine that would be cool. I guess that is the most obvious form of non-binary, it is the most striking and sticks in our head the most as it is the presentation of someone going against what the binary has put on them. Visual presentation is one thing and perhaps their other attributes are have both feminine and masculine and other traits.
But also maybe they don't, some non-binary people are like as thorn said "fem non-binary".
I heard on another ted talks that gender is less of a spectrum, less left or right and more like constellations. Every constellation has different stars and they together make up a different pattern. And so, you can relate this to gender if it works for you. Sometimes the stars will be masculine traits feminine traits or just traits and together they will make up the person, the constellation. Every constellation is different. Some you can compare to
others and some you cannot. This fluidity and complexitiy and difference exists in our universe and in us too, i believe.
i believe androgynous is more focusing on the physical visual presentation of someone rather than their gender identification. Please tho correct me if i am wrong.
Iam a Leo too, I want to be an activist but it's hard, Iam also bi and ace, I want to be q director and actor too
Zodiac only say which month you were born nothing else. Astrology is not a science, the alignment of the stars at your birth have zero impact on your life.
Hij zegt dat ze ally's nodig hebben? Dat was ik, maar waarom waarderen jullie ze dan niet? Weet je wel wat ik allemaal niet gedaan heb voor de lgbtq gemeenschap? En dan toch ondankbaarheid. Thorn moet zelf weten, dat kunnen wij niet bepalen, maar laat het de keuze van mensen zijn wat wij hiermee willen. We zijn niet verplicht om je accepteren, en het recht op dwingen of toe te spreken heb je niet. Zo werd dit precies in mijn gezicht gezegd. Je hebt geen recht om mijn mening te laten veranderen. Accepteer de mening
Ik hou van hen. Dankje, dankjewel!
❤️❤️🔥🔥👏🏻👏🏻
Nonsense
Misogyny. I feel so sad for her.
no I see a woman and the voice matched perfectly. and there's nothing she can't do that a "binary" girl can or the other way around
Listening to this non-binary individual gives me an insight into how they think. Basically they just want to be in the middle, experience being both male and female at the same time. One can be 75% male and 25% female, while another can be 25% male and 75% female. That being in the middle kind of mentality is something we general public cannot comprehend. They do accept their biology on what they were born to start with, but mentally they are something else. One non-binary person can choose to have a child (that is if that person is biologically female capable of bearing a child) while taking testosterone trying to become 25% more male, and have a non-binary partner who is biologically male is taking estrogen trying to be 25% female. Its mind bending to even try to comprehend this absurdity.
They are just labeling emotions in order to feel special because they always have low to zero self-esteem, literally everyone is a combination of male and female traits/expressions etc, it doesn't need any damn labels to fit every little variation, they are NORMAL human emotions and have just being popularised for attention, no one cares unless you shove it in their face 24/7.
It's not absurd it's just not the binary you were raised to exist in, it's okay if it's new for you. New isn't bad it's just new.
She
Thorn is a confused person!
Um, no?? You say they're "confused" because you don't like what this person said, and you want a justification to disregard it. If you're going to disagree with someone, that is the laziest and most pathetic way. Maybe try keeping your mouth shut unless you have something more valuable to contribute to the comments.
@@abigailw.8495 so what’s your point?😂
@@abigailw.8495she
Ofc shim names her zodiac sign
first to comment..........
You’re still acting, There is no such thing! Maybe we don’t fit! Grow up and move on.
You're one of them
She is a narcissist
n o
Regardless of wanting to be "non - binary" I bet you have XX chromosomes vs the only other option XY
How about Klinefelter syndrome? How about triple x syndrome?
A genetic expert like you could mansplain me about it😏
@@marieboddaert both very very rare and wouldn't come out looking like a perfectly healthy person. But this person right here I guarantee doesn't have any of the things you mentioned
@@dharman7509 how about intersexuality? You can’t see that on the outside. And what you did here is exact the point Thorn mentioned.
@@liezelola in intersexuality they might have resemblance of both genitalia parts but they still only have XX or XY chromosome. they have a uterus or they don't. Nobody in the world has ovaries and testes.
@@liezelola even if you cut those testes off you will never be able to have a baby grow inside of you
Food is killing neurons
Female has accent, lmao