Inside the last matriarchy in Europe - BBC REEL

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  • Described as the last matriarchal society in Europe, the women on the Estonian islands of Kihnu and Manija are in charge of everything on the island. But the younger generation is moving away from the islands, putting this unique culture and identity at risk of getting wiped out.
    Video by Anders Jørgensen
    Executive Producer: Camelia Sadeghzadeh
    #bbcreel #bbc #bbcnews

ความคิดเห็น • 823

  • @whoareyou7399
    @whoareyou7399 3 ปีที่แล้ว +811

    The villages with such attitude exist not only in Estonia, but also in Latvia, Lithuania, Ukraine, Russia, Belarus. Women there did most of the farm because many men died or were crippled by war.

    • @2010annaalexandra
      @2010annaalexandra 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      Romania too

    • @ivanorlan
      @ivanorlan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      agree, this looks just like any village in deep Russia, where all men gone to cities looking for work or died of war, alchogol, age or all together.

    • @Maryland_int
      @Maryland_int 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Exactly! My grandma can do all the men work just because she had to learn since there was not so much help from the man’s side.

    • @GMH-xl4lu
      @GMH-xl4lu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Like in Almost every country in Eastern Europe!

    • @alexa.M21
      @alexa.M21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@2010annaalexandra TRUE

  • @Obstgeist7
    @Obstgeist7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +832

    Why didnt anyone ask the women though? I dont wanna see a documentary about a phtographer, i wanna see a documentary about those women.

    • @ivetgeorgieva8888
      @ivetgeorgieva8888 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      I'm guessing it's because of the travel restrictions right now.

    • @DemureDarlings
      @DemureDarlings 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Exactly

    • @cfv1984
      @cfv1984 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Consider making one instead?

    • @thelastofthehitachi972
      @thelastofthehitachi972 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      the book is BIG HEART, STRONG HANDS

    • @Obstgeist7
      @Obstgeist7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @Alex Evans if you understand some german i can really recommend the documentary "ein jahr auf kihnu"
      Maybe that would help getting the stick out of your arse

  • @CreditFast
    @CreditFast 4 ปีที่แล้ว +191

    The photography is just stunning. The vivid colors illuminate the soul and character of the inhabitants. The lives of these people needed to be documented.

  • @heigohausenberg4949
    @heigohausenberg4949 4 ปีที่แล้ว +522

    An estonian here.
    Lovely that you showed the positive aspects of their lives.
    But as many of the commentators pointed out- where are the young people.
    This clip is actually showing a big part of estonian rural life.
    There is no work in rural areas and all the young people are in the cities or abroad.
    And consider also the fact that estonian women live 8 years longer in avarage than men. Overworking, alcoholism, recless behaviour etc. If a woman marries a man who is 4 years older than she, then the women has to live the last 12years of her life alone. Thats a tradegy if you think about it.
    They show mostly old women in this video because they are the only ones left. It so common in rural Estonia. Kihnu is a remote island and the isolation of those old women is even more visible.

    • @SylvesterStaline.
      @SylvesterStaline. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Well if he is useless in domestic things, reckless behavior and constantly drunk is that a bad thing? (Joking 😉)

    • @helenhunter4540
      @helenhunter4540 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      But are they isolated? They have each other!

    • @alpachino7659
      @alpachino7659 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      4:13 Are they Orthodox Christians? I did't know there were Orthodox people among Estonians.

    • @oOIIIMIIIOo
      @oOIIIMIIIOo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      It is not a tradegy to live without a man.

    • @Theorimlig
      @Theorimlig 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@oOIIIMIIIOo Of course it is, if you were married to him and knew him for most of your life.

  • @MusicaDelCaribe
    @MusicaDelCaribe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    This is a normal village in Eastern Europe.. especially because its mostly older women who are left in the most desolate rural areas

    • @eedragonr6293
      @eedragonr6293 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's interesting to see what was her Norwegian grandmother doing?

  • @riel5197
    @riel5197 3 ปีที่แล้ว +725

    Wishing them good luck from West Sumatra, land of the Minangkabau, matriarchy community on the otherside of the world.

    • @retribution999
      @retribution999 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I have been to West Sumatra. It's a very beautiful place.

    • @novayu666
      @novayu666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      what bullshit

    • @riel5197
      @riel5197 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@novayu666 care to explain what's bullshit?

    • @creativepop8196
      @creativepop8196 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@novayu666 what is bullshit

    • @nicowithrow4390
      @nicowithrow4390 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@novayu666 come on coward

  • @ISPRI2011
    @ISPRI2011 3 ปีที่แล้ว +486

    ..."The last matriarchy in Europe"?...IT IS NOT!...all over Eastern Europe in the countryside is more or less the same.

    • @saragarofano9727
      @saragarofano9727 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Okay "Lucian"

    • @flaviaanamaria5826
      @flaviaanamaria5826 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Mda, in special in Romania =)))))) that was funny

    • @Jabafish
      @Jabafish 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah that's true

    • @DidiGrooves
      @DidiGrooves 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      I agree. I'm from Latvia and when I was growing up, this is what I encountered visiting the dad's side of the family in a super rural area.

    • @sonjak8265
      @sonjak8265 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Southeast Europe too. Montenegro, where my father is from, is still a matriarchal society.

  • @helRAEzzzer
    @helRAEzzzer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +265

    It seems that the words "matriarchy" and "patriarchy" are EXTREMELY miss defined in recent years. How are familial records kept, who owns the property, who can inherit from the previous generation, and who is legally "head of the house hold?"
    What gender does what job doesn't really matter much....
    In this place (according to this video), the men work away from home and the women work in the home - that's just a functioning society with specific compromise, not a matriarchy (nor patriarchy for that matter).

    • @clicktell1449
      @clicktell1449 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      ...look, it'a a wonderful, feel good story, about Estonia. As an Estonian, and a woman - we don't get mentioned a lot in global media. So let's just collectively look at our grannies and go "aaaw" :3

    • @iamnotgandalf9308
      @iamnotgandalf9308 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Yes but that doesn't sell, now does it?

    • @FortoFight
      @FortoFight 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I think in this case it's more about the position that women hold in their culture. The women are more active in the local community because they're present when the men aren't.

    • @eedragonr6293
      @eedragonr6293 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@clicktell1449 and you intend to keep it that way, like your grandmothers let it to you or you will have soon another dump there too?

    • @jessjose3638
      @jessjose3638 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@eedragonr6293 who hurt you?

  • @koiv3956
    @koiv3956 3 ปีที่แล้ว +249

    problem is, kihnu isnt a matriarchy. That idea is only pushed by foreigners and Kihnulased dont say or think kihnu is a matriarchy. Please dont lie about my homeland.

    • @khanusmagnus577
      @khanusmagnus577 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      shut up

    • @the500mphtortoise
      @the500mphtortoise 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      if it makes you feel better theyre only saying it to suit their narrative. Nothing personal about your homeland.

    • @HomesteadForALiving
      @HomesteadForALiving 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yep. Propaganda

    • @eedragonr6293
      @eedragonr6293 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If they are Orthodox, there is a problem : they inherited the laws of the Byzantine Empire. The laws regarding the women 's property were made by the Empress Theodora... a married feminist.

    • @Sol-Invictus
      @Sol-Invictus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'd actually blame victorians categorizing everything without realizing that most things are in the grey. Not binary but blurred and we even use words in a blurred and open to interpretation way.
      This culture actually reminds me of the Scandinavians as they lived traditionally. It says more about us that women outside of a computerized world. Working and doing what needs to be done is a matriarchy.
      A woman can work part time, while going to college, with a child. And many still consider her at fault for not being married in the USA.

  • @justinmileman7863
    @justinmileman7863 3 ปีที่แล้ว +310

    I'm pretty sure there's another video about this place floating around. In that one one of the women said life is very peaceful there, the only time there's trouble is when the men are home from the sea.

    • @rhonda6791
      @rhonda6791 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Shocker there.

    • @sociologica4247
      @sociologica4247 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      @@rhonda6791 Yes I saw a video of a half Kihnu half Canadian and she said that is not really a matriarchal society but more that man leaves for a long time and they take care of themselves when men are there their decision is what goes 1st. The only matriarchal society I know of is The Mosuo, really run by women for 2000yrs

    • @dorotheasav8575
      @dorotheasav8575 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@sociologica4247 sounds like BCC has a very lax definition of matriarchy.

    • @eedragonr6293
      @eedragonr6293 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Scarlett O'Hara. But yeomanry never had slaves.

    • @SoVerySasa
      @SoVerySasa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      which means its not a matriarchy, its a patriarchy. so bizarre they would glorify this lifestyle which is held by most women around the world. if this is a matriarchy than so is all of the developing world.

  • @bethroesch2156
    @bethroesch2156 3 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    I'm appreciative of the photographers and others who help to record the histories of cultures that would otherwise be lost.

  • @Shy-xm4kn
    @Shy-xm4kn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +307

    The definition of “anything you can do I can do bleeding”. Strong people, both women and men.

    • @robinlillian9471
      @robinlillian9471 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Ginger Rodgers did every dance step with Fred Astaire, but backwards and on heels.

    • @copeharder7554
      @copeharder7554 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Cringe

    • @femalesupremacistoverlord6800
      @femalesupremacistoverlord6800 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @Cope Harder The reason for your existence is "cringe"? You dishonor your foremothers

    • @copeharder7554
      @copeharder7554 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@femalesupremacistoverlord6800 I almost got aborted you don't deserve my respect

    • @ashsqx3246
      @ashsqx3246 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      No not men. Only women. Men don't menstruate.

  • @XLseattle
    @XLseattle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +156

    This was beautiful. Necessity made this matriarchy possible. In medieval Iberia; Spanish women had a right to own property; enter contracts, and run the family farm or business because the men were away a lot fighting the Moors. To this day Spanish women inherit not only a surname from their father but also one from their mother and they do not change their name upon marriage. Those surnames are their legacy and they will pass one of them on to their children.

    • @warcrimeenjoyer881
      @warcrimeenjoyer881 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      But isnt the name at a point so long that it's Impossible to say/write it?

    • @MonkeyDLuffy-rr3wl
      @MonkeyDLuffy-rr3wl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@warcrimeenjoyer881 No, because every Spanish person has 2 surnames. Example: Maria Garcia Gomez, Miguel Perez Sanchez and their children could have the Surname combinations of: Garcia Perez/Perez Garcia, Garcia Sanchez/Sanchez Garcia, Gomez Perez/Perez Gomez, Gomez Sanchez/Sanchez Gomez.
      I think it's like that, but maybe there's a rule about the which Surename has to come first, which I don't know about.

    • @lordpickle65
      @lordpickle65 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@warcrimeenjoyer881 no, a typical hispanic name has 3 or 4 words: name, second name (this one is optional upon birth as names can be compound), paternal surname, maternal surname. Surnames and names also vary in length. It depends a lot.

    • @lordpickle65
      @lordpickle65 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@MonkeyDLuffy-rr3wl the paternal surname is the one passed upon children so if Maria Garcia Gomez and Miguel Perez Sanchez have a baby it would most certainly be (let's suppose the baby's a girl and her name is Isabel): Isabel Perez Garcia.
      Gomez and Sanchez (maternal surnames of both parents) become irrevelant to the baby's name.
      So when Isabel Perez Garcia grows old enough and engages with a Jose Antonio Espinosa Blanco and have a baby boy named Alvaro. The boys name would be: Alvaro Espinosa Perez
      When Alvaro has kids they will inherit Espinosa from him but not Perez.
      Sorry.. I'm bored as heck lol.

    • @MonkeyDLuffy-rr3wl
      @MonkeyDLuffy-rr3wl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@lordpickle65 Oh, thank you!
      I'm a clueless girl from Hungary, but I felt smart enough to answer.
      Your answer makes way more sense than mine, thank you for that😇

  • @AymenDZA
    @AymenDZA 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    the grandma energy is strong in this, reminds me of grandma and how she grew up basically doing things on her own in extreme weather and taking care of her family.

  • @julieaskingforafriend
    @julieaskingforafriend 4 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    Love all the beautiful colors and patterns used in their clothing and their homes.

  • @alecmiller6066
    @alecmiller6066 3 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    It’s very East style culture (except isolation thing): old generation from Soviet Union, gone through war, very down earth humble people, there are villages like that in Russia, Ukraine, Belarus etc. Unfortunately because of globalisation it’s a very rare thing, going to extinct in a near future. so thank you for showing that.

    • @OLHA767
      @OLHA767 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Exactly! This is very much like the village where my grandparents lived in Ukraine( Western region ). I was stunned by the similarities in culture, clothes, housing, decor and even crafts. Brought lots of warm memories.

    • @knitted_sweater_near_fireplace
      @knitted_sweater_near_fireplace 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@OLHA767 I'm from Western Ukraine and my grandparents and a lot of old people have this kind of relationship))

    • @riel5197
      @riel5197 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That is too bad.
      We Minangkabau here are quite urbanized, so it does not look traditional anymore. But fortunately people still trying to preserve the cultural structure of the matriarchy, even the men, who actually don't get to own any of the clan's property.

    • @rannintai-ryoku9525
      @rannintai-ryoku9525 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s definitely an eastern thing

    • @leedlbagginshield8492
      @leedlbagginshield8492 ปีที่แล้ว

      Similar in Albania

  • @peachpink123
    @peachpink123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    I love the looks in the eyes of these people, so simple and so human. Feels peaceful and strong community sprit. All the best to extreme individualism in modern cities.

  • @daleenalberts5829
    @daleenalberts5829 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Thank you so much for sharing this story with me. I was deeply touched. They and YOU are wonderful people.

  • @madamerage8518
    @madamerage8518 3 ปีที่แล้ว +159

    it reminds me of my grandma. she is a strong willed one, straight forward one.

    • @robinlillian9471
      @robinlillian9471 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have known plenty of older women like that.

    • @goosenuggets9693
      @goosenuggets9693 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robinlillian9471 As women grow older they begin to produce more testosterone, as men grow older they begin to produce more estrogen.

    • @goosenuggets9693
      @goosenuggets9693 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robinlillian9471 Obviously this only happens afer a considerable amount of time (40s-70s).

  • @nuzayerov
    @nuzayerov 3 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    It makes me sad how many cultures are disappearing. Also like the Badeshi language in Pakistan, with only 3 fluent speakers left.
    And also Irish, most Irish can't speak Irish, Irish themselves call Gaelic (Irish) a useless language, and overall "Britishification" is causing them to loose their identity. I hope the cultures can be revived somehow.

    • @sopitaaragon6539
      @sopitaaragon6539 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Nope. Globalization will cause many more to die out.

    • @00sophiiiie00
      @00sophiiiie00 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      irish is taught in school in ireland and there are still 100,000 ppl in ireland who are fluent in irish and use it as their first language everyday. However many ppl dont like learning irish in school as it's just based around exams and is taught rly badly. A lot of ppl (including me lol) would love to be fluent but school makes us hate it

    • @curanki8868
      @curanki8868 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      why? it's not possible to keep every culture alive lol, if there is no need for it then why? it's just a concept (one that does much more harm than good) so if the Irish themselves don't want to speak irish than why should there be an effort to keep it alive? old cultures die and new ones are born, it's only natural that way

    • @nuzayerov
      @nuzayerov 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@curanki8868, you are right, like the "Soviet culture" is an example of a new culture. But I wish Irish and Badeshi could be revived somehow.

    • @aleksandersuur9475
      @aleksandersuur9475 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's one thing to look at other people living in small isolated pockets of archaic culture, it's an entirely different thing to try and live it yourself. There are good reasons why the population there leans heavily towards elderly and why all the capable young people have gone to find better opportunities elsewhere.

  • @deborah85728
    @deborah85728 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Thank you so much for this documentation of these women’s lives . I was deeply moved by it 👏

  • @miglesakalauskaite9060
    @miglesakalauskaite9060 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    My great grandmother who's turning 96 this year, saw both of her parents killed. She left as the oldest child had to rise 6 siblings on her own at the age of 16. Later she had her own kids. She had to run a farm, manage the marriage and children.. nowadays, people are too weak to go through such things. I hardly imagine myself in her shoes....

    • @lunarose9
      @lunarose9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      People go through stuff like that all the time. They are just too busy living their lives to be conplaining on social media. The core of humanity has not changed, it's just the parts of it that you see.

    • @miglesakalauskaite9060
      @miglesakalauskaite9060 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lunarose9 you are not wrong. Things like that are constantly happening. The circumstances are different tho.

  • @HosCreates
    @HosCreates 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I grew up with a mom who grew up from a single mom . My birth dad was often gone working. When I was a teen I became and orphan and raised by another family . A working mom and working dad they worked together and came home every night. I've seen many different relationships. The best ones are the relationships where there is mutual appreciation and love hardwork and sometimes sacrifice.

  • @ericarose1979
    @ericarose1979 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    It is very touching, anyone who has grown up on a farm knows how hard the work can be, gardening, canning, milking, washing cloths by hand, looks like nothing from a store, everything hand made. This life is also very hard, and most of us today could not do it. We could do some of it, but for how long. From amazon, car hop trays, stay safe.

    • @jessjose3638
      @jessjose3638 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We could if we learnt.

  • @raphaelmury1446
    @raphaelmury1446 4 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    Beautiful story that made me think how our society transformed over the years. Would we be able to renounce our modern way of living and live a simple life? That’s a question I have no answer. Thanks for this amazing video!

    • @G1CAAAAEO
      @G1CAAAAEO 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can answer that question if you really want to.

    • @oOIIIMIIIOo
      @oOIIIMIIIOo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am on minimalism now.

    • @oOIIIMIIIOo
      @oOIIIMIIIOo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Heloise O'Byrne Fridges, washing, washing machines are ok, but think of al the other stuff no one really needs. 30 bowls you never use together and so on.

    • @oOIIIMIIIOo
      @oOIIIMIIIOo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Heloise O'Byrne You can habe, what you think, what you need. I don't need a big kitchen and useless stuff for status quo. It was just an overdrawn example. I 'judge' character, not belongings. 😀

    • @palomawoma
      @palomawoma 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I think the future of humanity is reliant on us wanting less. Everything we take has a cost to the planet, our resources are finite and belong to everyone. The actions of a tiny % of greedy humans is destroying what could be a fairer, equitable and healthier way for humanity to live in harmony with our natural parameters

  • @capricorntarot123
    @capricorntarot123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    This is a blessing, such a wonderful place and people.

    • @resourcedragon
      @resourcedragon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Grey Donovun : Oh, bullshit! They explained that the men are away most of the time fishing. It's called survival. The men are not oppressed - or no more than the women, given that both sexes were under Soviet rule and both sexes appear to live in fairly limited circumstances economically.

    • @copeharder7554
      @copeharder7554 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Grey Donovun Based

  • @jonnanane7747
    @jonnanane7747 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    In Budapest you’re identified by your mother’s last name. The mother is always known, the father though, not always sometimes😂

    • @eedragonr6293
      @eedragonr6293 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Pater semper incertus

    • @kucam12mischablue
      @kucam12mischablue 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      this is why the joke: say ”Good day” to all the men you meet, you might not know when you say ”good day” to your father!

  • @kimturner1963
    @kimturner1963 4 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    Love their beauitful flowered headscarves and dresses!

  • @srinivasvaranasi1645
    @srinivasvaranasi1645 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Touching and moving. A way of life that is disappearing. Leaves a sense of void.

  • @DarcieGlam
    @DarcieGlam 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    That was so beautiful - thank you! I would love to see them keep going, it's a hard life but such a rich culture.

  • @killerninjaz13
    @killerninjaz13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Even documenting things like this are vital to make sure our worlds history remembered even when time moves on

  • @fan2jnrc
    @fan2jnrc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    This is absolutely not a matriarchy. 😊

    • @ariadna5910
      @ariadna5910 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I live here. Its matriarchy

  • @orbitalsatellite
    @orbitalsatellite 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Old style self-sufficiency without the modern hipster stain.

    • @FortoFight
      @FortoFight 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You say on your phone/PC. Admit it, you're part of the stain too.

  • @rufusbayne2230
    @rufusbayne2230 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Young people leaving the island for a "better" future. A different future maybe but I'm not sure that it's better.

    • @oOIIIMIIIOo
      @oOIIIMIIIOo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Just my thought. When you are young, you think you need everything, when you are getting older, you experience, that many things are needless. 😀

    • @torugho
      @torugho 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I would certainly defend that a city life is better for those seeking it. Many people adapt to different ambients and it's totally up to teenagers if they think living an urban life will make 'em happy

    • @Mark-zu6oz
      @Mark-zu6oz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I would say better for opportunity, education, healthcare, etc. The unfortunate part is that in order to do so, the positive aspects of this way of life have to be abandoned and the community is lost.

  • @martinasolej7223
    @martinasolej7223 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is incredible. The story about war, peace dignity, women taking care of everything...this is so beautiful. Thank you.

  • @rvlucky2909
    @rvlucky2909 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Thank you very much for showing us a part of our past in the present

  • @anfisanechehova477
    @anfisanechehova477 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you. Greetings from Estonia.

  • @toocutepuppies6535
    @toocutepuppies6535 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Such a great story. Thank you for sharing these fabulous ladies with us before they're gone. 🙏

  • @eksiarvamus
    @eksiarvamus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Note that the Kihnu islanders converted to Orthodoxy in the late 19th century and are therefore quite distinct from the rest of Estonians. They settled the Manilaid islet in the 1930s.

    • @piotrnogas8448
      @piotrnogas8448 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      so what was its religion before?

    • @eksiarvamus
      @eksiarvamus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@piotrnogas8448 It was Lutheranism like for Estonians in general, but there was a hoax spread by the local authorities in the 19th century that converts to Orthodoxy would get free land. Especially people in Southwestern Estonia went along with it, but most converted back to Lutheranism after it had turned out to be a lie. Kihnu islanders however retained Orthodoxy.

    • @forgottenmusic1
      @forgottenmusic1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@eksiarvamus Yeah, that was part of Russification attempt in the end of 19th century. Another important change was that the Baltic law system, based on Baltic German laws, and German as official local language were replaced with Russian. After the people were converted, they were told: "Of course you can get your free land, just go to places like Siberia to grab it". And, it was forbidden to leave the Orthodox church, so it became possible only after Estonia became independent. While in other areas in Estonia, many rejoined the Lutheran church again, in coastal areas the Orthodox church remained. But, Kihnu was the only area, where the conversion to Orthodox church was total, in any other areas (excluding Setomaa, what was connected to Russia since the medieval time) Orthodox were a minority.

  • @fravineas
    @fravineas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    i cried watching this

  • @TheHestya
    @TheHestya 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Latvian and we have a lot of these kind of strong women. Many have been forced to take care of everything because of the wars and afterwards the men have dealt with alcoholism which leaves them useless when it comes to physical work. My grandmother worked her whole life, my mother did too. And that's the normal for many. Things are changing with younger generations, but I still can see a lot of carelessness in young men my age (I'm 27) in Latvia and far more responsibility in women. Which then brings the question why even in places like that men seem to be more likely to take higher positions at workplaces. It's sad how much these women have had to deal with. But they are so beautiful in their strength and resilience. Thank you for archiving their lives.

    • @whoareyou7399
      @whoareyou7399 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It’s not just in Latvia, I think the lives of old women in villages are pretty similar in all Eastern Europe and Russia. This village really reminded me the russian one were my Grandma lived

    • @TheHestya
      @TheHestya 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@whoareyou7399 Yes, everywhere really that got severely impacted by the WW2 and the Soviet Union.

  • @AV-rm5hx
    @AV-rm5hx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    what is the folk singing lady called ? i cant find her name

    • @hulltydruk
      @hulltydruk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Kihnu Virve

  • @dmitriydkoshelk9179
    @dmitriydkoshelk9179 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you very much indeed. My grangrandgrandparents are from Estonia and it's great to touch upon their culture.🤝

  • @soniat1348
    @soniat1348 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Thank u for reminding us the meaning of humanity and simplicity❤

  • @alexandersohn569
    @alexandersohn569 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Interesting enough, the Romans used to choose the family name as a female name and centuries on, in a region of Romania (Moldova), family names are chosen after a female name (ie. "Aanei" (Anne's (family)) or Adochiței (Dochița's)). This is different from the rest of the world, where the family name is chosen after a male name.

    • @lemmypop1300
      @lemmypop1300 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Not really, because a lot of cultures have matronymic names, it's just that patronymic's prevail. In the neighbouring Serbia you have a lot of names based on female ancestors. Serbian last names tend to come from the most prominent ancestor, and there's a lot of women who earned that right, by, for example, being widowed at a young age and then raising a bunch of kids on their own. Last names like Katić (comes from Katarina or Kata for short), Nedić (Neda), Miličić (Milica), Višnjić (Višnja) etc. are all examples of that.

    • @alexandersohn569
      @alexandersohn569 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@lemmypop1300 That's interesting, it s very probable it is a slavic thing too. I mean Slavs have the idea of live giving mother and source of life (matrioshka)

    • @Aditi-mb3qm
      @Aditi-mb3qm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Even in India.
      In India too, in ancient India too people were known by their Mother's name not Father's.
      Like 'Kunti putra Arjun'
      Kunti - Is the women's, the Mother's name '
      putra - means son and Arjun - The persons name
      So the full name 'Kunti Putra Arjun'
      Kunti's son Arjun
      'Ganga putra Bhishma' etc. and if daughter than after Mother's name its 'putri' than adding daughter's name the same way.
      Even Gautam Buddha's name comes from 'Gautami' his Aunt who raised him not Father's.
      And 'Sita pati Ram Chandra'
      'Sita's husband Ram'
      Sita- Name of the wife,
      Pati - Husband
      Ram- Husband's name
      Even while taking couple's name the wifes name always came first before the husbands name.
      Husband always needed his wife by his side for performing important rituals if there was no wife than husband was not allowed to perform, may he be the King of land but he can't perform important duties without the wife by his side.

  • @mrmervinjminky1536
    @mrmervinjminky1536 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Scottish Gaelic society used to matriarchal, names used to be passed down from the Mother, etc.

    • @iancrawford1382
      @iancrawford1382 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      If this is true why was so many people named Mc or Mac meaning son of.

    • @mrmervinjminky1536
      @mrmervinjminky1536 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@iancrawford1382 Mac means (son), Nic means (daughter) in Gaelic then (insert fathers name) is I think what you mean. This is modern, I’m talking about long long before.

    • @peachpink123
      @peachpink123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Same in China, used to follow maternal surname

    • @nataliebutler
      @nataliebutler 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      We were all matriarchal if you go back far enough.

    • @slickrick2420
      @slickrick2420 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@nataliebutler Not all

  • @letmepickmynameidiot4832
    @letmepickmynameidiot4832 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Based on the information given here, which is close to 0, this is not matriarchy.

    • @eedragonr6293
      @eedragonr6293 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      We are at the chapter machine gun or tank.

  • @aagneyanakshathra2357
    @aagneyanakshathra2357 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    0:40
    0:44
    4:26
    ..... There is strong and sensitive woman behind that camera...an empathetic human being worthy of capturing these precious heritage ....
    Great... It's very rare to see such passion for your profession ... Especially those words " a person shall not smile for the photographer ...or otherwise it will be a fake smile..." So wise of you❤️

  • @kathryncarter6143
    @kathryncarter6143 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I so appreciate all your documentation. And yes; despite the age & the poverty, there's still so much beauty.

    • @wolfzmusic9706
      @wolfzmusic9706 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      How are they in poverty? They have food & shelter.

    • @rankezis
      @rankezis 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wolfzmusic9706 bestie you did not just say that

    • @kathryncarter6143
      @kathryncarter6143 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@wolfzmusic9706 just meaning their lives aren't cluttered with piles of material objects. Not that they should, just the way it is.

    • @wolfzmusic9706
      @wolfzmusic9706 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@rankezis Poverty & being poor are different. Poverty is when you lack basic things like food, shelter, water etc. They clearly do not lack these things.

    • @wolfzmusic9706
      @wolfzmusic9706 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@kathryncarter6143 That isn’t poverty though. Poverty is when you don’t have the basics; being poor is when you don’t have much money & struggle.

  • @Alex_Christin
    @Alex_Christin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you for sharing it.

  • @Pasadena14
    @Pasadena14 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    What a beautiful story...great narration as well.

  • @jasminecollins897
    @jasminecollins897 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Women doing literally all the work to keep society and households running isn't really a matriarchy. That's just standard, really. There's a reason men have always left the most boring and thankless tasks to women.

  • @luciananunes7044
    @luciananunes7044 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Admirable strong women! Exciting reporting, thank you!

  • @flirtationdance
    @flirtationdance 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Last matriarchy? Literally all of West Europe is a matriarchy

  • @janevans5690
    @janevans5690 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Beautiful, so important to record this history before it is lost. ❤️

  • @Aester
    @Aester 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Babuska is babuska. Noone can overshadow her.

  • @MiddleEastMilli
    @MiddleEastMilli 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was very well done and very meaningful. This island is filled with women of great dignity. God bless these women.

  • @oldbat2ccats
    @oldbat2ccats 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What amazing portraits. They look like paintings. Excellent short documentary of a society I never knew about. Thanks BBC

  • @charonsiouxsie949
    @charonsiouxsie949 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Gjeldstad's images have me taken. I love their wrinkles, her wrinkles, and yours and mine.
    What beautiful, powerful story this is for me.
    The younger generstion leaving for a "better future" might also be considered a "different future."
    Bless you

  • @rwaijam
    @rwaijam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    PROUD OF MY HOMETOWN SHILLONG MEGHALAYA INDIA WE'RE THE INLY MATRIARCHAL COMMUNITY IN INDIA♥️♥️

  • @xxxxxx-hx3vp
    @xxxxxx-hx3vp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    God bless you! For your sensitivity for the beauty one can easily pass by; for saving what is passing just in front of our eyes for future generations❤️

  • @casperkoteras
    @casperkoteras 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    “Last matriarchy in Europe”
    Am i going crazy or aren’t there a few countries in Europe that basically worship their queens?

  • @resourcedragon
    @resourcedragon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I read a novel about Wales some years ago which described a tradition in which people would make a sort of nightshirt for themselves and knit white stockings to wear after they died.

  • @thelastofthehitachi972
    @thelastofthehitachi972 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    her name is ANNE HELENE GJELSTAD and the book is BIG HEART, STRONG HANDS

  • @visnjacvek7784
    @visnjacvek7784 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Beautiful story and beautiful people ❤️ thank you 🙏

  • @mihiec
    @mihiec 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great reportage!

  • @rosem5041
    @rosem5041 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Almighty protect these beautiful souls Ameen. You did a fantastic job in showing these people and their lives.its a great honour to witness these beautiful and wonderful people.

  • @natashas857
    @natashas857 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you, it reminds me of my grandmother and her friends and my childhood.

  • @findyourpassion8722
    @findyourpassion8722 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Babičky krásne naše = our beautiful Grandmas

  • @ChimekaErica
    @ChimekaErica 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A unique and forceful documentary, very important, touching, sad as well real. Beautiful people with beautiful stories regardless how harsh the weather has been. Their resilience speaks better. There are many of them. Thanks to BBC for giving us some of life's realities in camera.

  • @marianofernandes9330
    @marianofernandes9330 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Simply wonderful!

  • @vananhdinh349
    @vananhdinh349 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this video, the content, the image. btw, the background music at the end really moved me

  • @marietteberndsen9587
    @marietteberndsen9587 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Lovely piece of history.

  • @arzuaksen9751
    @arzuaksen9751 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Wonderful story, great work

  • @frjimomi
    @frjimomi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely awesome. Beautiful and profound - existential and real. Thanks.

  • @sizesmall1756
    @sizesmall1756 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Important job. Thanks for documenting.

  • @lorrainewade6956
    @lorrainewade6956 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I really enjoyed that thank you

  • @The-Growroom
    @The-Growroom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you know we live in a patriarchy when a culture in which women have some semblance of power in the public space is immediately called a "matriarchy" instead of just, yknow, a functioning society

  • @janedoe1146
    @janedoe1146 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    A lot of Americans came from similar cultures, they just don't know it. I was raised with my Polish Great Grandmother whom had those same beautiful blue eyes, dressed similar, and she too had lots of wrinkles. She worked in the kitchen until her 90's. Here in the US a lot of ignorant people demonize immigrants and yet they are the same they just don't know their stories. I feel fortunate to have seen and know the struggles my GG went through coming here, it's time everyone does some digging into their immigrant past to understand.

  • @leew8322
    @leew8322 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Such a beautiful story to tell. Thank you to these amazing women for sharing their lives with us

  • @aprilfirstmoon877
    @aprilfirstmoon877 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thankyou for showing us this beautiful story ❤️

  • @zenjm6496
    @zenjm6496 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's not matriarchy it is matrilineal! It exists everywhere. Look at how mothers bring up their children in military families!

  • @aagneyanakshathra2357
    @aagneyanakshathra2357 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The comment section of the video has vivid detailing of other similar rural communities around the globe....as vivid as this particular video....reading these comments make me want to visit each of those places and engrave in myself the precious past long lost

  • @captianhydra1712
    @captianhydra1712 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    So matriarchy means working women and men doing nothing. ☹️I thought it would be better

    • @f.k6920
      @f.k6920 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes it's almost the same as a patriarky just with more absent men, but this isn't a true matriarky.

    • @steyn1775
      @steyn1775 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      No, the men are working away from the village to earn bread and butter...

    • @_de_reve
      @_de_reve 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      lol you all don't understand the importance of these women doing everything by themselves. they are able to produce their own food and can repair their own production tools (aka machines etc.) which means they are autonomous. or eveven further: they are the ones with controlling power (work force + food production) in their little society. so yes it is a little matriarchy.

    • @steyn1775
      @steyn1775 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@_de_reve these are TRUE independent woman
      Unlike modern, lazy, feminists who screech that they are soooooo independent

    • @tareag993
      @tareag993 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@steyn1775 jesus go being a prick somewhere else if you don't understand people's problems

  • @JBTheMighty
    @JBTheMighty 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    So its not a Matriarchy its just how a lot of woman live their lives in the former Soviet countries

    • @reginapriest5287
      @reginapriest5287 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I was thinking the same. I'm from Bulgaria and it's pretty much the same here. Women do everything, while men just go to work, lay on the couch and drink rakia. And honestly, it's not that great as it's described in this video. I am extremely thankful that my man is not like that.

    • @namaenamae1
      @namaenamae1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@reginapriest5287 "go to work" takes a lot out of a man's soul these days. Ain't no real work left here anyways. Just fake capitalism work they could have a robot for but keep open so that the economy doesn't crash and they can keep exploiting us

    • @reginapriest5287
      @reginapriest5287 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@namaenamae1 well, going to work takes a lot outta my soul too. But I still clean, cook and take care of the child, right? It wouldn't take up much from the man to play with the child while I do something else. Or do the laundry when i can't. I understand if a man's job is super physically draining, but manufactury heavy work is not so common these days. There are a lot of men doing various other jobs. And while every job is draining to a point, at the end of the day it's good and appreciated to help each other. It creates compassion and balance. I know and have grown up around people who didn't have that and argued all the time.

    • @grovermartin6874
      @grovermartin6874 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Dozer Mramur I am interested in what you have to say, Dozer, but it is not easy to figure out what that is. Not trying to be the grammar or punctuation police, just trying to figure it out. Do you reread what you've written, to be sure we readers can understand?

  • @RealSalica
    @RealSalica 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Beautiful short documentary .

  • @galleryg998
    @galleryg998 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I would love to have seen the island when the women were in they’re prime, dealing with the wars and occupation and winter. A beautiful story

  •  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Beautiful culture, beautiful photography, amazing story.

  • @fatemekarimi483
    @fatemekarimi483 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    People always want to fight over women rights or men rights ! Stop paying attention to minor things.the most important moral that we should see in their life, is how beautiful they live, cooperate , how beautiful a couple can devide hardnesses of life between each other and how lasting and sweet their life is...live them

  • @RapidBlindfolds
    @RapidBlindfolds 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Expected the comment section to be cancerous, pleasantly surprised

    • @WhateverNameIsStillAvailable
      @WhateverNameIsStillAvailable 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, I'm pretty sure they removed a lot of comments.

    • @AMANSHARMA-xw8qi
      @AMANSHARMA-xw8qi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      😛why?? this is amazing

    • @RapidBlindfolds
      @RapidBlindfolds 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AMANSHARMA-xw8qi youtube comment sections can be very shitlordy on videos about discriminated groups

  • @susanboyd5471
    @susanboyd5471 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's like a dream...the photographs are beautiful, rich and textured. I love the textiles.

  • @ZoroarkChampion
    @ZoroarkChampion 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The last matriarchy? You definitely haven’t met my mother.

  • @Martina-Kosicanka
    @Martina-Kosicanka 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    There was a village in Slovakia called Kalište (Kalishtje). Grounded in mountains as a camp for people who were making charcoal for mines nearby. In 20th century, when mining lost its importance, people living there were very poor. Men had to look for employment elsewhere and all the worries with farming in this harsh place and raising children were left to women. It wasn't easy life. When they wanted to buy groceries, they had to carry it all on their backs. They did it only once a week, so they were carrying 50kg of groceries to really steep hill. It tooks like two hours to get there , even without the burden of 50 kg. People of Kalište consider themselves living on matriarchy, too.
    Kalište became the "capital city" of "Partisan republic", something like HQ of guerrilla warriors, who fought Germans in 1944. The reprisals of German were cruel. They burnt the village down with all the people, who were unable to move on their own trapped in the houses.
    The ruins are in the beautiful landscape. Worth visiting, then you ever visit Slovakia.

  • @barbarafrost6337
    @barbarafrost6337 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Women are indeed stronger than most people can imagine. Awesome film. Thank you.

  • @kyriljordanov2086
    @kyriljordanov2086 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What she's saying about this being the only place in Europe where men go off to work and women run the home in their absence is silly. This has been going on all over Eastern and Southern Europe for centuries. It's not a matriarchy, it's just that the men are gone and the women have no choice but to tend to things. She's trying to put a Scandinavian feminist twist on what is the result of a hard necessity.

  • @isabelpacheco4633
    @isabelpacheco4633 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It would be great if you could credit the photographer in the video description and maybe the name of her book! Great video :)

  • @grash4435
    @grash4435 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Every body loves the story , how beautiful and peaceful it is. Yes for the outsiders , it ss hard life and is not peaceful life it is every day fight to survival. And is not beautiful is ugly. I wonder how many of this ones who praised this wonderful life will change their life for life of this women's life. Put yourselves in this picture , you want like it !!!,

  • @irinasanchez8701
    @irinasanchez8701 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    For some reason i feel a little sad for them they're way is dying but they are so warm and kind.

  • @lennutrajektoor
    @lennutrajektoor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What Germanic language cultures can't ever grasp is the fact Finno-Ugric peoples have always been matriarchy . All Finno-Ugric peoples, Estonia and Estonians are no exception. One big exception in regard of Manija and Kihnu is the fact they are heavily influenced by Beach Swedish culture, which consisted of Swedes relocated to Estonia in pre Medieval Age and settled here.

  • @swilson5320
    @swilson5320 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing and chilling