Awesomely detailed video!! Great job man! I'll be saving up for this clutch pack. I just installed a 122" big bore kit into my 2019 Ultra, and it boogies now, but want to bullet proof my drive case with the Man-O-War and the Evolution clutch pack. Thank you!!
Yeah man, whatever works best for you. I’ve never had a problem with this size Alan and I’ve done this about four times now. But whatever is easiest for you is best to use obviously. There’s so many people that have no idea how to do this And are wandering around trying to find neutral the whole time they own these bikes
Just because it's not in the video doesn't mean it didn't happen. I typed subtitles to say it too. Lots of times I edit things out either because they take too long, someone interrupted my video at home, video/audio/lighting conditions were bad etc. All sorts of reasons. That;'s why I typed it out. I assure you I torqued it down. This is not my first time doing things in the primary
May be asking too soon, but did you just get the clutch kit? Or did you add the billet drive hub they offer? Im curious if adding it is worth it or if the one pre installed on that kit was good enough. Also trying to avoid tracking down a press
@@RidinDad thank you again, I’m doing this exact setup now on my street Bob. So instead of using the synthetic oil now it will use ATF type F oil instead? I apologize if this was covered in the video I just want to be sure, and how many quarts did you pour into the primary? The same amount according to the manual?
Yeah man. No regular oil. Atf type f replaces that. Same amount of fluid but use your visual guide with the clutch like the manual shows and I talk about in case you need a little less or more. You’ll be very happy with the end result man!
Yes you can always use the OEM basket. Just be aware it's not as durable as the aftermarket options & may potentially cause you future issues down the road if you are making decent power
I do not do torque specs for any of the inner primary stuff typically. I’ve talked a bunch about it before but I torqued it down, just I did not check it with a spec
do you have a one piece clutch cable... i installed the same clutch basket but have the 2 piece cable with the fat bagger clutch adjustor and the adjustor is right at the end of the threads to take up the slack and thats without a 1/4 turn out :(
Yes, I do. No matter what set up you have the two piece cable system from Harley is trash, and I have no idea why they ever would have went to that. Do yourself a favor and get a one piece clutch cable, not only will adjustments be better, but the whole Actuating of the clutch will be better in general. Single piece clutch cables are so much better than the crap that Harley is trying to put out now.
Yes I do. It’s literally the video posted immediately prior to this one. And it’s in the playlist on my channel devoted to all the videos for the “bulletproof primary”
You always soak the plates in whatever oil they’ll be sitting in permanently. In the case of the evolution industries clutch pack, it requires atf type f fluid instead of the typical primary case oil you would put in a stock primary.
Long post incoming: I just installed a evolution clutch industries clutch kit on my 2021 street bob. My issue now is the clutch cable, when I pull the lever it doesn’t move the basket at all nor is there any tension on the cable like if there is too much slack. I’ve been running the fat baggers manual clutch adjuster and haven’t had this problem until now. Do I need a spacer on the clutch lever? Did I miss a step? I haven’t poured fluids into the engine yet just Incase if I need to disassemble and troubleshoot. Please let me know what you think and any suggestions. Basically it is not giving it enough pull to open and close the basket.
Just installed the same setup after seeing you videos. Is the evo clutch like considerably stiffer to pull in the clutch lever than OEM? It’s smooth and everything works fine but it’s like a workout shifting lol
@@RidinDad alright. I literally thought I messed something up so spent a good 2 hours looking over and re torquing everything. My shorty levers probably don’t help. I have a 2 piece clutch cable with the red tab that auto adjusts the free play. It would pop out every 3rd pull if the sleeve wasn’t over it. I’m swapping to the fat baggers metal adjustment replacement. Then I’ll need you to make a video on doing one of those clutch ramp ez pulls or something to lessen the pull lol
Lol I highly recommend an old school 1 piece style clutch cable. They’re easy to adjust and super reliable. Way better then this dumb 2 piece design. And yeah. Standard shorty levers make the pull super hard
@@RidinDad oh right on. I was worried about that. probably going with this setup with stock comp on my 17' street bob. going back to manual chain tensioner as well
@Ridin Dad yessir. Just a clubstyke 103 with cam. So no crazy power just want to beef up the primary so it don't blowup for wheelies and burnouts. Is stock bad with running this clutch?
@Ridin Dad yessir. Just a clubstyke 103 with cam. So no crazy power just want to beef up the primary so it don't blowup for wheelies and burnouts. Is stock bad with running this clutch?
What is the cost of this complete clutch kit? Is it 46T or 49T? I have 96” street bob and planning to go with big bore 110”. Seems I have to upgrade the same $$$
I wanted the primary to be stock gearing. I have a chain kit with taller gearing that I’m happy with paired with my cam. Rear sprockets are way easier to change too.
do you find the clutch basket noisy... i installed the same clutch and its quite noisy in neutral... with clutch pulled or riding its quiet. Its quite annoying sitting at lights. I even swapped from ATF-F to spectro primary and didnt make a lot of difference :(
I honestly do not. I’ve never had any noise issues. Do you have the same setup in the primary in addition to the basket? I’ve heard guys having noise with the man o war but never with just the clutch basket
@@RidinDad I have the hayden chain tensioner, a billet comp ramp with evolution springs. Mines pretty noisy :( I read on a couple of forums where that report same noise. I rang evolution industries and they said it will make more noise compared to stock :/
Yeah it’s a pretty popular clutch and it’s actually being sold in more and more online stores now so it’s easier to find out about. I pre record my stuff too so it’s actually been on the bike for 2 months lol
Please... Describe for me the correct order of the plates. The thick one is The first to install, Then The medium ones in The middle and for the Last The thin ones?? I lost The order to reinstall
I can’t tell you in good faith man. I haven’t had that clutch a part in a long time. If my video doesn’t explain it enough I would recommend contacting evolution directly man. Sorry about that!
Watched so many videos on compensator issues on almost every model Harley, makes me wonder why no one is super disappointed with a high priced bike with major issues at such low miles. Makes me also wonder what Harley have learned from over a 100 years of manufacturing motorcycles….??? I wonder if Honda would get away with such poor engineering.
Yeah I hear ya. I got Harley for a few reasons….none of which were reliability lol. I like working on the bikes so it doesn’t bother me too much. But it does suck
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He is making content that is important. The fact that he is not a professional talking head makes his videos authentic
Appreciate that!!! I spend lots of my own money on these products. No kickback so I definitely believe in what I put on the bike! 👊🏻
Looking good!!! The clear derby is going to be awesome!
Hell yeah man. Thanks!
Awesomely detailed video!! Great job man! I'll be saving up for this clutch pack. I just installed a 122" big bore kit into my 2019 Ultra, and it boogies now, but want to bullet proof my drive case with the Man-O-War and the Evolution clutch pack. Thank you!!
Do it man! And thanks !! 🤙🏼👊🏻
That Allen is two big. I’ve found using a smaller one is more accurate. I like backing it out 3/4 toooo😊
Yeah man, whatever works best for you. I’ve never had a problem with this size Alan and I’ve done this about four times now. But whatever is easiest for you is best to use obviously. There’s so many people that have no idea how to do this And are wandering around trying to find neutral the whole time they own these bikes
Hell yeah man! Bikes gonna be a beast!
Hoping so!!
Excellent video! Thank you
Thanks! 🤙🏼
How does the clutch pull feel on Evolution coil spring set up? Has the Man O War been solid? Any issues?
I don’t have the bike anymore. But when I did 0 issues. Felt great. The clutch pull feels very smooth. Noticeably harder though
When did you torque the clutch hub nut? Looks like the pressure plate went on after you hand tightened the nut and installed the plates
Only reason im here is for that information too
Just because it's not in the video doesn't mean it didn't happen. I typed subtitles to say it too. Lots of times I edit things out either because they take too long, someone interrupted my video at home, video/audio/lighting conditions were bad etc. All sorts of reasons. That;'s why I typed it out. I assure you I torqued it down. This is not my first time doing things in the primary
@@jacksutliff8944 I responded.
May be asking too soon, but did you just get the clutch kit? Or did you add the billet drive hub they offer? Im curious if adding it is worth it or if the one pre installed on that kit was good enough. Also trying to avoid tracking down a press
What you see is all I installed
Hey man I love the video I was wondering if you can post a link of the exact ATF-F oil you used from O Reilly just so I know what I’m looking for.
www.oreillyauto.com/detail/c/o-reilly-oil/performance/oil--sealers---additives/transmission-fluid/ef29179d83d6/o-reilly-conventional-transmission-fluid-20w-f-1-quart/oro0/f
Thanks man!
@@RidinDad thank you again, I’m doing this exact setup now on my street Bob. So instead of using the synthetic oil now it will use ATF type F oil instead? I apologize if this was covered in the video I just want to be sure, and how many quarts did you pour into the primary? The same amount according to the manual?
Yeah man. No regular oil. Atf type f replaces that. Same amount of fluid but use your visual guide with the clutch like the manual shows and I talk about in case you need a little less or more. You’ll be very happy with the end result man!
@@RidinDad In your opinion what would you say are the best spark plugs to run or do you stick with OEM?
What chain/sprocket conversion kit are you running? I’m looking to do the same thing for my m8.
Speed kings! Super high quality!!
Nice moves
👊🏻
'If you have a red theme going' I feel attacked lol
Lol I don’t man. This is the only red I got going on at all I promise!! Does look like it would fit your build very nicely though. !!
I found a kit online that come with just the disks and spring. Can I used my own oem basket on my 88ci ?
Yes you can always use the OEM basket. Just be aware it's not as durable as the aftermarket options & may potentially cause you future issues down the road if you are making decent power
Keep on Bro 👊
Of course! 🤙🏼
Great video. Did you torque the LH thread nut under the clutch? Or did I miss it
I do not do torque specs for any of the inner primary stuff typically. I’ve talked a bunch about it before but I torqued it down, just I did not check it with a spec
do you have a one piece clutch cable... i installed the same clutch basket but have the 2 piece cable with the fat bagger clutch adjustor and the adjustor is right at the end of the threads to take up the slack and thats without a 1/4 turn out :(
Yes, I do. No matter what set up you have the two piece cable system from Harley is trash, and I have no idea why they ever would have went to that. Do yourself a favor and get a one piece clutch cable, not only will adjustments be better, but the whole Actuating of the clutch will be better in general. Single piece clutch cables are so much better than the crap that Harley is trying to put out now.
@@RidinDad i have ordered a single piece cable cant wait to replace that rubbish.
It’s great. Much better man! Good choice!
Do you have video feed of the actual compensator installation can’t seem to find it?
Yes I do. It’s literally the video posted immediately prior to this one. And it’s in the playlist on my channel devoted to all the videos for the “bulletproof primary”
Do you just use atf fluid to soak the plates or do you feel the primary with the atf fluid also ?
You always soak the plates in whatever oil they’ll be sitting in permanently. In the case of the evolution industries clutch pack, it requires atf type f fluid instead of the typical primary case oil you would put in a stock primary.
@@RidinDad so I’m gonna put the atf fluid in the primary also right
Yupp. Exactly
What kind of fluid does this clutch use
ATF type f
So how do you torque the clutch hub when the inner hub spins even with a locking tool ??
Gotta put something between the hub and the primary to hold it.
Put it in gear and then have somebody step on the break
No… you do it with the clutch plates and pressure plate still under spring tension with the adjuster screw taken out
Long post incoming:
I just installed a evolution clutch industries clutch kit on my 2021 street bob. My issue now is the clutch cable, when I pull the lever it doesn’t move the basket at all nor is there any tension on the cable like if there is too much slack. I’ve been running the fat baggers manual clutch adjuster and haven’t had this problem until now. Do I need a spacer on the clutch lever? Did I miss a step?
I haven’t poured fluids into the engine yet just Incase if I need to disassemble and troubleshoot. Please let me know what you think and any suggestions. Basically it is not giving it enough pull to open and close the basket.
I responded to ya man!
Just installed the same setup after seeing you videos. Is the evo clutch like considerably stiffer to pull in the clutch lever than OEM? It’s smooth and everything works fine but it’s like a workout shifting lol
Yeah man for sure. It’s a lot stiffer. My Flo levers make the pull much less stiff but it’s still a fair bit over stock
@@RidinDad alright. I literally thought I messed something up so spent a good 2 hours looking over and re torquing everything. My shorty levers probably don’t help. I have a 2 piece clutch cable with the red tab that auto adjusts the free play. It would pop out every 3rd pull if the sleeve wasn’t over it. I’m swapping to the fat baggers metal adjustment replacement. Then I’ll need you to make a video on doing one of those clutch ramp ez pulls or something to lessen the pull lol
Lol I highly recommend an old school 1 piece style clutch cable. They’re easy to adjust and super reliable. Way better then this dumb 2 piece design. And yeah. Standard shorty levers make the pull super hard
@@RidinDad okay thanks for the info. I appreciate the reply
No problem man
AMERICA 🇺🇸
Hell yeah!
did you have to press the hub into the basket?
It’s all inclusive. You don’t reuse anything from the original setup.
@@RidinDad oh right on. I was worried about that. probably going with this setup with stock comp on my 17' street bob. going back to manual chain tensioner as well
Did you watch the whole video on the install? I talk about how it’s a completely unit lol. Be careful with the stock comp!
@Ridin Dad yessir. Just a clubstyke 103 with cam. So no crazy power just want to beef up the primary so it don't blowup for wheelies and burnouts. Is stock bad with running this clutch?
@Ridin Dad yessir. Just a clubstyke 103 with cam. So no crazy power just want to beef up the primary so it don't blowup for wheelies and burnouts. Is stock bad with running this clutch?
What is the cost of this complete clutch kit? Is it 46T or 49T?
I have 96” street bob and planning to go with big bore 110”. Seems I have to upgrade the same $$$
The link in the description takes you directly to the product with pricing and info. But it is 46 (stock) and $1452
@@RidinDad
Thank you, may I ask why you did’t go with 49T it says it will increase the acceleration
I wanted the primary to be stock gearing. I have a chain kit with taller gearing that I’m happy with paired with my cam. Rear sprockets are way easier to change too.
@@RidinDad thank you
No problem man
do you find the clutch basket noisy... i installed the same clutch and its quite noisy in neutral... with clutch pulled or riding its quiet. Its quite annoying sitting at lights. I even swapped from ATF-F to spectro primary and didnt make a lot of difference :(
@RidinDad - do you experience the above?
I honestly do not. I’ve never had any noise issues. Do you have the same setup in the primary in addition to the basket? I’ve heard guys having noise with the man o war but never with just the clutch basket
@@RidinDad I have the hayden chain tensioner, a billet comp ramp with evolution springs. Mines pretty noisy :( I read on a couple of forums where that report same noise. I rang evolution industries and they said it will make more noise compared to stock :/
Hmm. Also might be due to my louder bike since I have a an aftermarket cam that I can’t hear it
It’s steel.
You the second one in last month use this clutch.
Yeah it’s a pretty popular clutch and it’s actually being sold in more and more online stores now so it’s easier to find out about. I pre record my stuff too so it’s actually been on the bike for 2 months lol
Please... Describe for me the correct order of the plates. The thick one is The first to install, Then The medium ones in The middle and for the Last The thin ones?? I lost The order to reinstall
I can’t tell you in good faith man. I haven’t had that clutch a part in a long time. If my video doesn’t explain it enough I would recommend contacting evolution directly man. Sorry about that!
Evolution has instructions on downloads page of their website
Thanks!
Don't even know the name of the parts 😂
Which parts do I not know the name of? And if you are such a genius why are you even wasting your time watching?
I think all tranny fluids might be red?? 🤔 I think
All atf fluids?
Watched so many videos on compensator issues on almost every model Harley, makes me wonder why no one is super disappointed with a high priced bike with major issues at such low miles. Makes me also wonder what Harley have learned from over a 100 years of manufacturing motorcycles….??? I wonder if Honda would get away with such poor engineering.
Yeah I hear ya. I got Harley for a few reasons….none of which were reliability lol. I like working on the bikes so it doesn’t bother me too much. But it does suck
Talk wayy too much
Ahhh…here’s a tip to help with that: don’t watch
Just get to doing the work.
Less talking. A lot less talking.
The crazy thing about TH-cam is that nobody is making you watch this video. If you don’t wanna listen to me talking, then don’t watch it. Or, and I think this one is really going to absolutely shatter your idea of life as a whole, but you could actually mute or fast forward the video. Make sure you subscribe for more TH-cam navigating tips!
all truth
@@RidinDad