@@mj.l Why decadent, specifically? Just curious as to what you mean by that. It never really felt decadent to me, but my perspective may be different. I wish record labels would have this kinda money to throw around nowadays. I'm sure most of us would appreciate it if they did. lol
They didn't buy. They rented and they also all lived there (including the live band). Reznor wanted to build his own studio, but only found a permanent location when he moved to NOLA.
@@serbadork you do realize you can record like a pro today, for a fraction of the price back then... you don't really need 'record company money' to produce, now getting it promoted is where the 'industry' thrives. nowadays renting a house is expensive for everyone, regardless of its intended use.
I absolutely loved the specific insight into how nine Inch nails actually made the sounds and focussed on the production techniques used, amazing video as always.
I'd love to see you take a look at the making of Portishead's first album ("Dummy"). That album was a huge landmark in the trip hop genre and I really find its use of samples and production interesting.
@@AudioHaze I'd say that 90% of anything you're gonna find about the making of Dummy is gonna be an interview (rather than video or book). They DID do a 2-3 hour interview with KEXP about the making of Dummy.. for its 25th anniversary (4 years ago?) Andy Smith, the (tour) DJ, also has some interesting insights - as somebody who wasn't officially part of the band, but was present.
@@AudioHaze I think my reply was deleted because of the link in it, so I'll repost it without the link There is an article on Reverb that goes into some detail on the making of the album, search "Portishead Reverb" and you should be able to find it Another good source is the 1998 live concert film from Roseland Ballroom NYC, as you can see some of the gear that was also used on the album, mainly things like the Roland Space Echo and Fender Rhodes
I will say one thing, which really caught my attention, because I've got the most insane sounds while doing it: having a really good guitar player jam, while another person tweaks pedals/amps/effects units. Because it's such a two way interaction, with one person's input playing off the other persons, it's insane... eventually you reach this climax where one person goes "stop, don't touch anything, that's it", and boom, you've got the most wild tones imaginable, doing things you wouldn't do if you were just tweaking a re-amped guitar looping. Honestly, it's like sex or something, you get this "more of this, less of that" thing, where the guitarist's ideas morph and change based on what they're hearing. Just make DAMN sure to write down every setting, every patch, and always, always be recording. One of the coolest feelings is hearing an unused sound/demo from years ago, and finding that you've got all the notes, and a complete effects chain... the amount of totally crazy shit I've done with compressors, reverbs into viscous distortion, unhinged EQ sweeping EQ, smashing effects buses into other smashed effects buses... totally doing everything "wrong" to get a sound that really is "right" in some way. I'm guilty of not writing things down/always recording as much as I should, but holy crap does it pay off. My best friend/bandmate took his own life a few years back age 33, and I've truly learnt some lessons in how valuable it was hitting "record" all those times he was noodling or warming up. I'm in the process of releasing his solo album posthumously, and I'd do anything to get access to the effects chains and DAW files for his demos.
It's so deeply refreshing to see such a well-researched take, especially on an album as important to music production history as The Downward Spiral. I don't know a single producer worth their salt that doesn't marvel at this record
@@AudioHaze Actually, fun fact about that, another version of the font (DIN Condensed) does have capitals, and the 2010 remaster of Pretty Hate Machine's packaging used exclusively this font in capitals as a little nod to TDS!
Man i fuckin love NIN. I'd love to see you try to replicate some of the elements of one of his songs, maybe not an exact recreation but trying to replicate the style and techniques.
I would LOVE to, definitely would be the hardest recreation I've done so far lol, would have to rely on a bunch of really solid emulators and a select few pieces of analog gear
@@AudioHazethe sounds don’t have to resemble nin, just the process using daw how u described and the feelings and experimentation involved. i think you’d be great and learn and grow. i’ve been kinda doing similar things solo. you’re right - it is actually pretty challenging! guess i need a weird(er) spooky house or i dunno, a concept er somthin lol.
GREAT VIDEO!! The Oberheim OB-Mx was one of two (or three?) prototypes that existed and apparently sounded great on the bassline of "The Becoming", but NOT Closer as is mistakenly credited. The subsequent Gibson OB-Mx's (which I bought and used and grew to love) was not quite up to the prototypes build spec (Moog and Oberheim filters), as it used a very different design with Engineering supervised by Don Buchla. You can see the prototype OB-Mx (on loan) in the right of the picture half cut off.
Oh man this is excellent as usual! Been in a quite a long dry spell when I haven't felt like recording or anything but after watching this I can feel the inspiration coming back, so thanks for that! :D
Thank you for making this forensic video! It is so inspiring, informative and so well made. You have such an intelligent approach to these breakdowns it makes one want to go and try these techniques. Please keep up the amazing work that you do!
NiN got me to know how complex an album can be when it sounded. It's wild Trent Reznor wins Oscars on a Disney movie to show he can do anything past his work on NiN. Great video!
Great video! (As always). It’s absolutely mind blowing to see what is now a bread and butter way of producing music be “born” and seen as new. Reznor is a genius and knows his stuff. Great research, and great video!
awesome video! excellent rundown of the gear. some people might not realize how that stuff is pretty hard to track down, especially 30 years after the fact. (and the Fragile is 25 years old soon...)
Appreciate the video. I actually loath Nine Inch Nails, but that doesn’t matter to me because this content isn’t necessarily about the band. It’s about how they got their sound and it’s super interesting and very well done. I’m learning so much and although I will never probably do anything with audio, recording and processing beyond my own minuscule things this is very very interesting to me and you do an excellent job talking about complex things but making it easy to understand.
this album alone was a reason why i got into making music. 30 years later, i've been over-studying so much about the production process and gear used even from the Pretty Hate Machine era, and figuring out bit by bit how modern musicians could replicate such ideas. thankfully, it is getting easier knowing most of the synths used in the early days have modern clones that can cut real close (Arturia Matrix-12 can cover the Oberheim Xpander as an example). Some stuff was not known and this video definitely helped to see more into that. a very great video imo!
@@AudioHaze the only other thing i could think of is since Turbosynth is old news and slightly rough to work with on memory limitations, Reaktor would be something else to have to learn for something like Waveshaping or figuring out how to turn audio into Oscillator information to thicken the noise up like on Broken. that was another thing I've been trying to figure out. Though, probably easier than thought. Arturia would be the easiest, mainly for the DX7 (if needed), Emulator, Minimoog, Prophet VS, Matrix 12, SEM, Arp 2600 or Modular, etc. Probably the last bit which would be tricky, is the noise or character you might get from the Akai or Kurzweil if you are wanting to impart that on things. Every little detail is as fascinating as trying to find out where and how to do it lol. I'd be excited to see what you come around with, knowing what you do know.
was not too sure about how much i would take away from the video since i've read a bit about this, but it was really informative and i really enjoyed the deep dive into the tds recording techniques and equipment. would love to see a similar deep dive into the fragile from them, that one sounds extremely different from tds and i think there's lots to talk about there (like that piezo guitar on tracks like "big come down")
@@AudioHaze yeah, i'm sure there is a lot to find out about the fragile recording techniques. it has an equally interesting sound which applies for most of nin's work, but this one's probably best to go for next right after tds. anyways, really good video!
Woah I didn't know Belew was on this record! Belew to me has alway been a huge inspiration because he was a machine however he also loved to experiment and break all the rules during an era of perfect shredders.
Fantastic video! Commenting for the algorithm, but as much of a stretch as it might be due to the lack of general information (from what I've found) would be something like this for any of The Mars Volta's early records. Since watching Get Back I've gained a new appreciation for learning and seeing the process of albums I love being created.
I remember when this record came out (yeah, I'm old). I was a fan of NIN, not a huge fan but a fan. This record took me to the next level of borderline obsession. It still holds up. I know the word "masterpiece" gets overused but for me this one is as close as you can get.
I loved this video so much, nine inch nails is my favorite band. Could you do the fragile next? It has some very interesting sounds to it and I would love to know how those were achieved
As usual, I do appreciate the research and countless hours you spend to make these cohesive breakdowns. I wasn't the biggest fan of NIN but appreciate what they brought to the table. And I think my point is that I listen to every one of these in-depth dives because all the principles are very applicable to recording regardless of style or genre. I pick up great stuff from every one of these. Probably one of the amazing points of this video was the counterpoint between the processed stuff and the raw vocals, that that was actually a conscious decision. Brilliant!! 🙏🙏
Totally, that's the goal at the end of the day! Behind every artist there's a technique that we can pull from and utilize ourselves imo. Honestly I feel like music would be a less volatile place if people had your perspective (recognizing there is something to learn from with every artist)
I was living in Ohio when Pretty Hate Machine first dropped. It was a big departure from Trent's 80's band which played out in the Cleveland area. It surprised and confused some of the local reviewers. It was the first record of the genre to go mainstream after intentionally assimilating a lot of darker influences, especially out of Chicago, such as some of the WaxTrax folks, Chris Connelly, Ministry, Revolting Cocks, etc. They toured quite a bit to support the album. I must have seen them at least three times that year, including the first Lollapalooza with Jane's Addiction, Siouxsie, Ice T, etc. Then within ten years... I've been fortunate to know a few people who played on the Downward Spiral and the Fragile. I think they'd agree with you about how Trent would use studio musicians as samplers or instruments themselves. They independently said (paraphrased) shortly after those albums were recorded that they were hired to come into the studio play/improvise with some loosely defined direction, which would be chopped up later. Although he appreciated working on the project, Adrian was candidly down to earth about how he wasn't entirely sure where or how his parts were used.
Yeah I mean its kind of hard to deny :/ its funny though to read some of the stuff I researched and find techniques we all used today being called revolutionary lol, such a cool transition
Love the video as always! Super cool history, too! :) P.S. May I recommend a breakdown of Cigarettes After Sex's production/sound? I know their original EP was reportedly recorded in a stairwell, but I'd like to hear your thoughts on it!
@@AudioHaze AH, unfortunately none I know of :( Based on SOME pictures I've seen, it looks like some of their songs were tracked live in the studio, but I also read in an interview with Greg Gonzelz (Frontman) that he rented a house on an island and recorded there - no idea what gear was used. For their debut EP, he said he recorded everything in "a four-story stairway at his alma mater, University of Texas at El Paso". I hope that's a helpful start!!! :)
Any chance you could do a video on the band Coil? They were friends of Trent Reznor and also an influence on his music. His How To Destroy Angels project was even named after a Coil EP. Nobody has ever done anything about their recording techniques as far as I know.
That album wasn't first at anything but it was what I learned was called "first-best" ... it put together those parts and techniques and hit on them well enough to be a landmark. That same sort of thing is true all over the place in music history. It's really interesting how it works that spontaneously several people all over the world have similar ideas and start to develop them and may they influence someone or maybe one of that first wave hit's it far enough out of the park to be remembered as "the originator" of that thing. Then maybe the group that follows that get more of a financial reward, then it gets diluted while a new cycle is already starting. I don't know, because of DAWs and the internet if that cycle will still happen or not much longer. It may well be that mumble rap was the last of them.
Thanks for the info! Yeah I made sure to say "one of the first" because I know there are records out there that likely had less commercial success. Honestly we may see some people doing similar stuff with AI-driven music production. I think its then a question of how legitimate we want to take these new innovations. What I'm saying is the next revolution may be the "AI revolution" as the last was the "digital revolution", how happy I am to accept this new revolution....idk...
@@AudioHaze I didn't think you were saying anything wrong, I was just adding a little personal opinion :) Good point on the AI ... it's hard to think about AI just being another tool (which it is), because it puts so much more distance between the artist and the result. This year at a modern art show there was a work drawn directly on a wall where the art was a set of instructions to the gallery to hire a specific number of professional draftspeople and then instructions for them in what to plot on the wall that allowed for them some freedom. It's really similar to what AI is at the moment, just instead of computers it's several humans who are not trying to make art themselves they are just doing a paid job.
Trent Reznorr is from Mercer, PA, where I live now. I saw him once, at a Mercer High School basketball game where his cousin was on the team and playing. Trent and his girlfriend at the time, walked across the gymnasium floor and I heard someone say "there's Trent Reznor." And it was.
@@AudioHaze I think they used a lot of like stop motion modeling so it was sorta in the same vein as like the original starwars trilogy, although maybe not as well executed. i should rewatch it and see if there was a bunch of stuff an 8 year old shouldn't have been seeing in it. I think it was an old VHS my mom had cause she was an extremely slow adopter for new media formats.
Just started the video but I've been listening to this album on repeat lately, and reading (Marilyn) Manson's autobiography, trying hard to learn how to make this kind of music, please stop reading in my mind
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Imagine buying a house to record an album. Gotta miss those 90’s budgets…
LOL meanwhile we're out here going in debt to payment plans
@@AudioHaze*renting* a place to record an album seems inaccessibly decadent to me
@@mj.l Why decadent, specifically? Just curious as to what you mean by that. It never really felt decadent to me, but my perspective may be different. I wish record labels would have this kinda money to throw around nowadays. I'm sure most of us would appreciate it if they did. lol
They didn't buy. They rented and they also all lived there (including the live band). Reznor wanted to build his own studio, but only found a permanent location when he moved to NOLA.
@@serbadork you do realize you can record like a pro today, for a fraction of the price back then... you don't really need 'record company money' to produce, now getting it promoted is where the 'industry' thrives.
nowadays renting a house is expensive for everyone, regardless of its intended use.
I absolutely loved the specific insight into how nine Inch nails actually made the sounds and focussed on the production techniques used, amazing video as always.
Thanks my friend! Yeah tried to get as much into the weeds with this one as possible, as much gear and techniques as I could fit
I'd love to see you take a look at the making of Portishead's first album ("Dummy"). That album was a huge landmark in the trip hop genre and I really find its use of samples and production interesting.
Okay I'll give a look! Do you know if there are any vids or books about the topic? Would love to find some reliable sources
OMG, please do!
Would love to see this, I have yet to hear another band recapture the sound and universe of portishead
@@AudioHaze I'd say that 90% of anything you're gonna find about the making of Dummy is gonna be an interview (rather than video or book).
They DID do a 2-3 hour interview with KEXP about the making of Dummy.. for its 25th anniversary (4 years ago?)
Andy Smith, the (tour) DJ, also has some interesting insights - as somebody who wasn't officially part of the band, but was present.
@@AudioHaze I think my reply was deleted because of the link in it, so I'll repost it without the link
There is an article on Reverb that goes into some detail on the making of the album, search "Portishead Reverb" and you should be able to find it
Another good source is the 1998 live concert film from Roseland Ballroom NYC, as you can see some of the gear that was also used on the album, mainly things like the Roland Space Echo and Fender Rhodes
I will say one thing, which really caught my attention, because I've got the most insane sounds while doing it: having a really good guitar player jam, while another person tweaks pedals/amps/effects units. Because it's such a two way interaction, with one person's input playing off the other persons, it's insane... eventually you reach this climax where one person goes "stop, don't touch anything, that's it", and boom, you've got the most wild tones imaginable, doing things you wouldn't do if you were just tweaking a re-amped guitar looping. Honestly, it's like sex or something, you get this "more of this, less of that" thing, where the guitarist's ideas morph and change based on what they're hearing.
Just make DAMN sure to write down every setting, every patch, and always, always be recording. One of the coolest feelings is hearing an unused sound/demo from years ago, and finding that you've got all the notes, and a complete effects chain... the amount of totally crazy shit I've done with compressors, reverbs into viscous distortion, unhinged EQ sweeping EQ, smashing effects buses into other smashed effects buses... totally doing everything "wrong" to get a sound that really is "right" in some way. I'm guilty of not writing things down/always recording as much as I should, but holy crap does it pay off. My best friend/bandmate took his own life a few years back age 33, and I've truly learnt some lessons in how valuable it was hitting "record" all those times he was noodling or warming up. I'm in the process of releasing his solo album posthumously, and I'd do anything to get access to the effects chains and DAW files for his demos.
It's so deeply refreshing to see such a well-researched take, especially on an album as important to music production history as The Downward Spiral. I don't know a single producer worth their salt that doesn't marvel at this record
Thanks dude!! Hurt gets me every time, the production and the pain in those textures. Hits me harder than the cash version
I remember when my sister introduced me to NIN in the mid nineties and I was blown away as an 11 year old. Still to this day it stands up.
Yeah this album is what sold it for me :) March of the pigs floored me as a kid
As a MASSIVE NIN fan and enjoyer of your work, I've never clicked a video faster. I also love how you even used the right font at the beginning!
Happy to be of service my friend! Yessir used the right font throughout the whole vid (which apparently doesn't have capitals lol)
@@AudioHaze Actually, fun fact about that, another version of the font (DIN Condensed) does have capitals, and the 2010 remaster of Pretty Hate Machine's packaging used exclusively this font in capitals as a little nod to TDS!
Man i fuckin love NIN. I'd love to see you try to replicate some of the elements of one of his songs, maybe not an exact recreation but trying to replicate the style and techniques.
I would LOVE to, definitely would be the hardest recreation I've done so far lol, would have to rely on a bunch of really solid emulators and a select few pieces of analog gear
@@AudioHazethe sounds don’t have to resemble nin, just the process using daw how u described and the feelings and experimentation involved. i think you’d be great and learn and grow. i’ve been kinda doing similar things solo. you’re right - it is actually pretty challenging! guess i need a weird(er) spooky house or i dunno, a concept er somthin lol.
Ironically, their original drummer just got a professor slot at U of M teaching principles of electronic music
I saw that when I was researching!! So sick
Uh oh - does this mean a "I Remade 'Closer by Nine Inch Nails' video is up next?! LOL - Great vid, thanks for sharing!
LOL, let's see how this video goes and then we'll see what happens next hehe
a less popular song would be really great. so many to pick from
@@chinmeysway Less popular translates into less clicks. You gotta sponsor that video yourself if you wanna see it :D
Fantastic video! Thanks!
I'm going out and buying the remastered vinyl as soon as my local shop opens. What a cool breakdown. Liked and subbed!
GREAT VIDEO!! The Oberheim OB-Mx was one of two (or three?) prototypes that existed and apparently sounded great on the bassline of "The Becoming", but NOT Closer as is mistakenly credited. The subsequent Gibson OB-Mx's (which I bought and used and grew to love) was not quite up to the prototypes build spec (Moog and Oberheim filters), as it used a very different design with Engineering supervised by Don Buchla. You can see the prototype OB-Mx (on loan) in the right of the picture half cut off.
Yo sick thank you for the info! Had no idea Gibson made an version of that synth
Oh man this is excellent as usual! Been in a quite a long dry spell when I haven't felt like recording or anything but after watching this I can feel the inspiration coming back, so thanks for that! :D
Thank you for making this forensic video! It is so inspiring, informative and so well made. You have such an intelligent approach to these breakdowns it makes one want to go and try these techniques. Please keep up the amazing work that you do!
Yay that's the goal! Thanks so much my friend
NiN got me to know how complex an album can be when it sounded. It's wild Trent Reznor wins Oscars on a Disney movie to show he can do anything past his work on NiN. Great video!
Yeah he's amazing at making soundtracks too! Him and Atticus Ross are on another level
I just discovered your channel and I dig it! I love learning about this stuff!
Awesome video on one of the wildest albums of the 90s
Thanks man!
Great video! (As always). It’s absolutely mind blowing to see what is now a bread and butter way of producing music be “born” and seen as new. Reznor is a genius and knows his stuff.
Great research, and great video!
Right?? Honestly some of the craziest footage I found was of pro tools 1, seeing the UI in such a primitive form was so cool
@@AudioHaze link please. Would love to see that!
Awesome job! Awesome channel! Thanks for curating all this information. This will always be one of my favorite albums.
Appreciate it my friend!
NIN was the whole reason I got into music and learning about how my favorite albums are made from the production and mixing. Awesome video man!
Dude that's awesome! What a great act to get you into the world of music tech
incredible video as always! You never fail to boost my motivation to record something right now.
Aww that’s awesome, ultimately that’s always the goal!!
What an exceptional album that was. Your treatise was par excellence, as usual. Thank you for the video!
Thanks Jonathan! Appreciate it :)
These videos are always so well researched, amazing work
Thank you!
Fascinating, never actively listened to them but about to dig in as soon as this is over
Yeah dude definitely worth the dig, sits right in that sweet spot of digital and analog
Really well done man; from the history to the equipment, the samples, and just the overall insight was incredible ~ great video 🙌🏽🔥🔥🔥😎🔥🔥🔥🤙🏽
Thanks Shayn that means a ton!
awesome video! excellent rundown of the gear. some people might not realize how that stuff is pretty hard to track down, especially 30 years after the fact. (and the Fragile is 25 years old soon...)
So true! Lots of investigative research for this vid, searching forums and scrubbing through endless pictures of outboard units lol
Was just thinking about your videos last night. Let's go!
WELCOME BACK
this is excellent. lots to unpack and take in. would love a lil longer or longer version slower imagery etc just a thought thank u for doing NIN ❤
Thanks for the info! Glad you liked the vid my friend :)
Would love to see you tackling the infamous production process of Loveless! Great video as always!
I'll check it out!
Fantastic! Great Video, Thanks.
Thanks for checking it out :)
Great vid!!
Thank you!
Appreciate the video. I actually loath Nine Inch Nails, but that doesn’t matter to me because this content isn’t necessarily about the band. It’s about how they got their sound and it’s super interesting and very well done. I’m learning so much and although I will never probably do anything with audio, recording and processing beyond my own minuscule things this is very very interesting to me and you do an excellent job talking about complex things but making it easy to understand.
I really enjoyed this video! Thank you!
and thank you for watching! :)
Great video AH, love the amount of work you put in research, it really pays off ❤
Thanks don, that means more than you realize :)
i finally subscribed. sorry it took so long. i love your videos. thank you!
All good dude, welcome to the community!
huge thank you for making this video 🙏
Appreciate you watching it!
Man that was interesting!
Great work again!
Thanks Tristan!
Good stuff. Thanks for doing what you do!
Thanks for watching!
this album alone was a reason why i got into making music. 30 years later, i've been over-studying so much about the production process and gear used even from the Pretty Hate Machine era, and figuring out bit by bit how modern musicians could replicate such ideas. thankfully, it is getting easier knowing most of the synths used in the early days have modern clones that can cut real close (Arturia Matrix-12 can cover the Oberheim Xpander as an example). Some stuff was not known and this video definitely helped to see more into that. a very great video imo!
Thanks Brandon! Yeah I'm looking into recreation of NIN and I would definitely be falling back on those Arturia emulations to do that :)
@@AudioHaze the only other thing i could think of is since Turbosynth is old news and slightly rough to work with on memory limitations, Reaktor would be something else to have to learn for something like Waveshaping or figuring out how to turn audio into Oscillator information to thicken the noise up like on Broken. that was another thing I've been trying to figure out. Though, probably easier than thought.
Arturia would be the easiest, mainly for the DX7 (if needed), Emulator, Minimoog, Prophet VS, Matrix 12, SEM, Arp 2600 or Modular, etc.
Probably the last bit which would be tricky, is the noise or character you might get from the Akai or Kurzweil if you are wanting to impart that on things. Every little detail is as fascinating as trying to find out where and how to do it lol.
I'd be excited to see what you come around with, knowing what you do know.
That final message hot home. Thank you.
So happy to hear man, appreciate you watching until the end :)
was not too sure about how much i would take away from the video since i've read a bit about this, but it was really informative and i really enjoyed the deep dive into the tds recording techniques and equipment. would love to see a similar deep dive into the fragile from them, that one sounds extremely different from tds and i think there's lots to talk about there (like that piezo guitar on tracks like "big come down")
I'll check it out! Even if you may have come across the info before, always good to have it in a consolidated place
@@AudioHaze yeah, i'm sure there is a lot to find out about the fragile recording techniques. it has an equally interesting sound which applies for most of nin's work, but this one's probably best to go for next right after tds. anyways, really good video!
Helluvan interesting video, well done! Very entertaining. 👌🔥👌
Thanks man!
Very well done!
Thank you!
hell yea brother
Woah I didn't know Belew was on this record! Belew to me has alway been a huge inspiration because he was a machine however he also loved to experiment and break all the rules during an era of perfect shredders.
Me either!! Dude he's a beast, him and Marc ribot are the dark horses of the guitar world, such brilliant world builders on their instruments
So fuckin cool! I just listened to this record and this video is really well timed
Eyyyy happy the timing worked out!
Knew you’d eventually get to this album. So happy!!
Yeah its been in the back of my mind for a while :)
dude i love ur content
Thanks man!
i love the album japanese whispers by the cure
Thanks for this take 🤟
Appreciate you watching!
Never really clicked with NIN, I'm more into Reznor's & Ross's movie soundtracks, but damn that was an insightful video Ricky.
Yeah I’ve been meaning to check those out! Appreciate watching the vid anyways Takeshi :)
@@AudioHaze They did a soundtrack for the recent TMNT Mutant Mayhem, and it's dope.
Fantastic video! Commenting for the algorithm, but as much of a stretch as it might be due to the lack of general information (from what I've found) would be something like this for any of The Mars Volta's early records. Since watching Get Back I've gained a new appreciation for learning and seeing the process of albums I love being created.
great video. Not a huge fan of NIN but you did a stellar job with the recording process.
Thanks!
Amazing video Thank you
Appreciate you watching!
Cool video. Subbed!
Appreciate it Rob!
I remember when this record came out (yeah, I'm old). I was a fan of NIN, not a huge fan but a fan. This record took me to the next level of borderline obsession. It still holds up. I know the word "masterpiece" gets overused but for me this one is as close as you can get.
Yeah hurt has been constant rotation for me ever since I heard it! Definitely stands the test of time
I loved this video so much, nine inch nails is my favorite band. Could you do the fragile next? It has some very interesting sounds to it and I would love to know how those were achieved
That would be sick! I'd have to find the documentation necessary for that one, which may or not be enough information I'd have to look into it
@@AudioHazei just know the board used for the Fragile was an SSL 4000 g+
Love your content
Thanks Andy!
i love this channel and i love nine inch nails... lets fucking go
Poifect 👌🏻👌🏻
This is great. Can you do one on Sleep Token?
I'll check it out at the very least!
hell yeah
Good video bro
Thanks man :)
Yoooo!!!! So excited!
Chris Vrenna was my audio engineering teacher before he went to Michigan I miss him
so jealous
thank you!
Thank YOU for watching!
MORE PLEASE!!! XoXO
OTW
this video made my little goth heart very happy, thank you
Another banger!
Thank you!
Bro do a review on the new condenser mic by Shure the SM 4, please!!!!!
great vid
Thank you!
Love your channel. I see a video, I click
Appreciate it my friend :)
As usual, I do appreciate the research and countless hours you spend to make these cohesive breakdowns. I wasn't the biggest fan of NIN but appreciate what they brought to the table. And I think my point is that I listen to every one of these in-depth dives because all the principles are very applicable to recording regardless of style or genre. I pick up great stuff from every one of these. Probably one of the amazing points of this video was the counterpoint between the processed stuff and the raw vocals, that that was actually a conscious decision. Brilliant!! 🙏🙏
Totally, that's the goal at the end of the day! Behind every artist there's a technique that we can pull from and utilize ourselves imo. Honestly I feel like music would be a less volatile place if people had your perspective (recognizing there is something to learn from with every artist)
I was living in Ohio when Pretty Hate Machine first dropped. It was a big departure from Trent's 80's band which played out in the Cleveland area. It surprised and confused some of the local reviewers. It was the first record of the genre to go mainstream after intentionally assimilating a lot of darker influences, especially out of Chicago, such as some of the WaxTrax folks, Chris Connelly, Ministry, Revolting Cocks, etc. They toured quite a bit to support the album. I must have seen them at least three times that year, including the first Lollapalooza with Jane's Addiction, Siouxsie, Ice T, etc. Then within ten years...
I've been fortunate to know a few people who played on the Downward Spiral and the Fragile. I think they'd agree with you about how Trent would use studio musicians as samplers or instruments themselves. They independently said (paraphrased) shortly after those albums were recorded that they were hired to come into the studio play/improvise with some loosely defined direction, which would be chopped up later. Although he appreciated working on the project, Adrian was candidly down to earth about how he wasn't entirely sure where or how his parts were used.
So cool to hear some of the background dude, thank you :) would love to talk with some of the musicians one day, just a little pipe dream of mine
Nah they knew what house they was cooking in lol, but amazing they doing basically what we doing to day, daw to tape, revolutionary
Yeah I mean its kind of hard to deny :/ its funny though to read some of the stuff I researched and find techniques we all used today being called revolutionary lol, such a cool transition
Incredible record
Totally :)
Hell yea love NIN
SAME
Do you have a video on how to Produce/mix like NIN?
Not yet :/ that would definitely be a challenge!
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Love the video as always! Super cool history, too! :)
P.S. May I recommend a breakdown of Cigarettes After Sex's production/sound? I know their original EP was reportedly recorded in a stairwell, but I'd like to hear your thoughts on it!
That would be a great vid! Is there any first and information or documentaries out there I could pull from?
@@AudioHaze AH, unfortunately none I know of :( Based on SOME pictures I've seen, it looks like some of their songs were tracked live in the studio, but I also read in an interview with Greg Gonzelz (Frontman) that he rented a house on an island and recorded there - no idea what gear was used.
For their debut EP, he said he recorded everything in "a four-story stairway at his alma mater, University of Texas at El Paso". I hope that's a helpful start!!! :)
Crazy, did not know he recorded in such an infamous home.
Yeah me too until I started doing research!
Any chance you could do a video on the band Coil? They were friends of Trent Reznor and also an influence on his music. His How To Destroy Angels project was even named after a Coil EP. Nobody has ever done anything about their recording techniques as far as I know.
I'll check it out! Is there any documentary or information I could pull info from?
That album wasn't first at anything but it was what I learned was called "first-best" ... it put together those parts and techniques and hit on them well enough to be a landmark. That same sort of thing is true all over the place in music history. It's really interesting how it works that spontaneously several people all over the world have similar ideas and start to develop them and may they influence someone or maybe one of that first wave hit's it far enough out of the park to be remembered as "the originator" of that thing. Then maybe the group that follows that get more of a financial reward, then it gets diluted while a new cycle is already starting.
I don't know, because of DAWs and the internet if that cycle will still happen or not much longer. It may well be that mumble rap was the last of them.
Thanks for the info! Yeah I made sure to say "one of the first" because I know there are records out there that likely had less commercial success.
Honestly we may see some people doing similar stuff with AI-driven music production. I think its then a question of how legitimate we want to take these new innovations. What I'm saying is the next revolution may be the "AI revolution" as the last was the "digital revolution", how happy I am to accept this new revolution....idk...
@@AudioHaze I didn't think you were saying anything wrong, I was just adding a little personal opinion :)
Good point on the AI ... it's hard to think about AI just being another tool (which it is), because it puts so much more distance between the artist and the result. This year at a modern art show there was a work drawn directly on a wall where the art was a set of instructions to the gallery to hire a specific number of professional draftspeople and then instructions for them in what to plot on the wall that allowed for them some freedom. It's really similar to what AI is at the moment, just instead of computers it's several humans who are not trying to make art themselves they are just doing a paid job.
awesome
Thanks Andrew :))
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trent preferred the speaker emulation from zoom and he only used Marshall for preamp
Appreciate the clarification :)
Dude is a genius.
Absolutely, Trents insane
Gotta try the multiple passes of vocals through an 1176.
SMASH THAT VOCAL YUHHH
Trent Reznorr is from Mercer, PA, where I live now. I saw him once, at a Mercer High School basketball game where his cousin was on the team and playing. Trent and his girlfriend at the time, walked across the gymnasium floor and I heard someone say "there's Trent Reznor." And it was.
OH shit that's awesome! How did he seem at the game? Just chilling?
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@@AudioHaze Yep, chillin to the max.
No wonder his music was so dark and angry hes from Pennsylvania.... So am i and i hate this fucking state..now i understand him even better
Now doesnt it make you feel betteerrrr
fell asleep every night in elementary school to this album
That's.....insane how did you do that
@@AudioHaze i was critical listening without even knowing it, i used to focus on the reverb and stuff, dunno how my brain found it relaxing though
robot jox was so fun as a kid
Honestly the FX looked pretty awesome for an 80s movie lol
@@AudioHaze I think they used a lot of like stop motion modeling so it was sorta in the same vein as like the original starwars trilogy, although maybe not as well executed. i should rewatch it and see if there was a bunch of stuff an 8 year old shouldn't have been seeing in it. I think it was an old VHS my mom had cause she was an extremely slow adopter for new media formats.
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"nine inche nails"
yeah sorry for the typo, just me and my computer making this so I mess up sometimes
Just started the video but I've been listening to this album on repeat lately, and reading (Marilyn) Manson's autobiography, trying hard to learn how to make this kind of music, please stop reading in my mind
LOL love to hear I'm on the same wavelength as the community, honestly just trying to find albums with enough interesting info to tell a story about!
Absolutely Absorbing ViD . My 👨man.. !!!!!! 😊...Unfortunately I never got a chance to do a couple of stints in sound 🔊 engineering college 🎓 Not from Lack of trying,, I might add ,as I always had to work to survive,, But the work finally paid off and now I have my dream studio but watching This just reminds me of how much I missed out on in college 🎓 😢
Anyway Great Video 📹 Bro.
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Happy you eventually got your dream studio dude :)
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3:08 turned out the other implied Manson was also an asshole 😂
lol
11:06 probably under the influence of cocaine
still not as weird as the song manson wrote that the beach boys released
that's a nutty story
had no idea lol
Do a vid on Tool
Would you have an album you think would be the best option?
@AudioHaze Lateralus or 10,000 Days. I just love the effects on the instruments, like the guitar sounds like a straight up digiridoo at times
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