Going to the Euro league transformed Dante Exum. He was under one of the best coaches in the world at Partizan where they run like a 100 set offences. His teams went deep in playoffs in a league where it is harder to score. Because of this he came back with much higher bball IQ, is more secure with the ball, has greater confidence and a reliable perimeter shot. As the gap between the US and the EU shrinks I hope more young prospects go and mature their game in other leagues like Dante
I think a lot of it is being humbled by being such a high draft pick and then being out of the league shortly after. Seems it lit a fire under him and sparked the comeback
The end result is the same regardless of the journey. The player didnt realise their value given the team investment that was made. You can argue its a different "type" of bust if you want to - Same result different category.
Greg oden always injured = busted the city for that year ASSUMED this would turn the ship around. I rather get 3 role players in the draft then someone we are willing to invest at least 3-5 season to get them to develop as the team leader . A top pick should already be developed as a player that could seamlessly transition to the NBA from college if they are destroying all the competition in college they should be on average a “good - great player in the nba
Another reason the Magic are screwed by the lack of media attention. I consider myself a pretty big basketball fan and I legit had no idea Issaac wasn't injured lol
@@BabaYagaRacing although I think the team is really interesting, their franchise isn't that interesting to a mainstream audience. But I think their current core is gonna make buzz sooner than later and people will find out that these guys are tough.
This shows what actually putting out effort, and also being talented as a defensive player can do. In a league that’s scoring a ridiculous amount of points, some defense is absolutely crucial to winning. It’s the big reason why the Knicks getting OG Anunoby was such a big deal. These guys wouldn’t be making an impact now if the rest of the league would play a little defense. But kudos to them for recognizing what is in short supply in the league, and delivering it when their other options failed.
Dante has always been a good defender. One of the few who did good on prime Harden. The timing of his injuries were always the problem. When TJ Warren dislocated Dante's shoulder, in terms of timing, was the worst one. The Jazz were a regular playoff team now and when Dante came back, he was never afford the time to learn his craft. Quin Snyder kept him on a short leash and would bench him after one mistake. All those lost years to injuries.. like dayum
I agree but Dante also had no outside shot and had low IQ before he went overseas. Now those weaknesses are now his strength. Mavs are a waaaay better team when Dante is healthy
Isaac is one of best defensive players out there, his body just isn't made for nba. Guy missed almost 3 full calendar years and can only play on heavy min restrictions, can't play back to back games etc. His offense pretty much doesn't exist but he is such an unique defender that it doesn't matter that much at least not in regular season. All that said, you just can't rely on him because every jump he take might be his last jump in pro sports. One of most injuried players in nba history.
Deni avdija is having amazing season. He always was a lockdown defender and this season he's also shooting 40% from 3 and scoring 5 more points per game then last season. Show some respect!!!
There wasn’t much expectation from Avdija from the start even if he was drafted high, so he was never considered a bust. More like a “project” and right now the Wizards seems to be completing that project.
@@andresparry8104 He is playing small ball 5 although not a lot. Magic fans know that franz, paolo, isaac is our very own death lineup. We don't need more big playmaker since franz and paolo already a good enough playmaker. He just needs a consistent 3 and get healthy. Right now his offense mostly comes from cuts and offensive rebounds
@@ryanseijuro5279 that’s fair, Franz and Paolo are already + creators and are super young. I mostly just mean that he needs to work on making the “right” play more often. His impact stats are awesome, but the one glaring exception is his pass quality. Learning to better read the defense from the post-and the perimeter -could only help the team. As far as his own shot creation, given how many mismatches he gets, making his jump hook a tad more efficient would let him rely a little more on his length than his hustle.
@@andresparry8104 I get what you're saying and i agree. I'm just saying that i don't expect that out of him. He's going to be the 5th option on any lineup anyway
@@knabelaunfortunately the season is 82 games and he is shooting 35% on the season on two attempts. Herb Jones is shooting 44% on the SEASON on 3.5 attempts a game
Not always, but many "busts" were just drafted too young. I think if some of these guys played 4 years in a good college program they would have a better NBA career.
Dante Exum is a great example of why a lot of these foreign dudes really need to play in the highest home leagues before they declare for the NBA. Exum came out after just turning 19 and never played in the NBL. The NBA is an instinct league that runs on crazy individual talent and you don't see a lot of hard defense or set offenses. Euros/Overseas are different. Team concepts come first, a lot of sets, and hard defense. Playing an extra year or two in those league's highest levels is a great education. They let you develop "feel" without it being the most important thing, they force you to learn to navigate tighter spaces, and force you to learn to play through contact. Those are all things Exum struggled with big time in the NBA. Two years in Spain? Career high shooting %, career low TOs.
I could be wrong but if I'm not mistaken - Jalen brunson was also drafted the same year Luka was so Luka was not the only reason why outside of DJ's inefficient scoring. Jalen Brunson was another factor as well that cant be forgotten. If I'm remembering correctly off top
Isaac was in DPOY convos before his knee quit on him. He and Aaron Gordon werewere shutting down everything inside the arc. On offense, it was lob city with those two and whoever was the PG (particularly with Augustin since he was the best passer and the only one who could reliably shoot between him Fultz and Carter-Williams), then on top of that Vooch was still good at the time.
I think the problem with this list is that two things can be true at the same time they can be salvaging their careers, but they're still going to be busts
Dante Exum has always been a good player. The problem he had was he was ALWAYS injured in Utah. When he was playing well, the Jazz played well but when you miss half the season, every season, is a problem...
Jonathan Issac isn't safe from being a "bust" (not fair for being injury prone) because he still can't stay on the floor, which, in result, hasn't put up numbers but is still amazing defensively
should of had a bigger feature on isaac my guy! hes the reason most teams fear playing the magic back then and the reason the new rookies and sophmores dreaded him coming back again in the future and present day! Ask the Knicks, Celtics, Denver, and other top tier teams best players!
@jayherbogaming that's your opinion. Case in point, you call Greg Oden a "what if", but many many people call him a bust. I'm not saying either side is right or wrong, I'm saying not everyone has the same definition of what a bust is
imo DSJ and Dunn saved their careers last year, DSJ looked good with the hornets and that basically guaranteed him another spot even if it wasn't with them and Dunn looked nice too
Issac was never a bust he just hasn’t been healthy which to me doesn’t mean you’re a bust. Also DSJ is still a bust. His defense is amazing but he still has no consistent offense and at best it looks like he’ll be a defensive guard off your bench.
I mean Dante is decent but i don't think he's a whole lot better than he was in Utah, just relatively healthy. DSJ is literally the same player he's been since day one, just slightly more efficient. He's a backup that could stick around or could be out of the league after this season, the same story with Dunn. Isaac is solid but putting up below career average numbers because you'll miss 3 week if you play 20 minutes isn't at all saving your career.
I hate to break it to you, but Exum going from the worst player in the league to a decent bench guy doesn't remove the bust label. Nobody, NOBODY picks 5th in the draft and thinks 'Hopefully one day in the next 10 years this guy can give us 20 mpg off the bench'.
Aside from Isaac these guys are role players at best. Dante still sucks, he's just a catch and shoot guy. Dennis Smith Jr. is a solid backup. and Kris Dunn is the 8th or 9th man in a borderline bad rotation. Props to them for making millions and keeping their dreams alive, but saying they're saving their careers is like saying Ben Simmons still has a chance at a comeback.
What do you mean by saving their careers? love your videos, but i cant really agree with 3 of these. Smith jr, isaac and dunn all have been having very mediocre if not flat out bad seasons, 6ppg and 4apg or 4rpg aint called "saving your career". These were all players expected to average at least 15 and 5, bare minimum, none of those three are doing it. Would not be surprised if all 3 are out of the league in the next 3 years.
Um Jonathan Isaac is averaging 6 ppg, 4 rpg, and 1/2 an assists, and he basically spent the prior 3 seasons injured. injuries are often part of being a bust, just ask Greg Oden. He's still a bust my friend, and a $17M/season bust at that!
Genuine question: why would anyone want to be drafted 1st? If you don't live up to expectations you are labelled a bust, but if you go say 20-60 and you ball out your considered a steal. To me I wouldn't want that pressure to perform based mostly off hype/potential. I would rather be the quite overachiever, because if you draft me at 30 and I'm a role player then im what you expected, but if I'm jimmy 🪣 then I'm not just good I'm also better then advertised. But on the other hand if I get made like I'm LBJ if i am that, great. Im just equal to my prodicted value, but if I don't end up an all star people are gonna call you a bust when you might be like maybe still top 10 in your class
Guys who are legitimate top pick candidates usually have a ton of confidence. They aren't thinking what if i fail as the top pick, they expect to go there and expect to perform bc they have done it at every level already
@bartholomew1608 I do get that, but I doesn't seem like enough of a reason to justify the hype from the player side. Cause as I said if you go out their and kill it like say Ant Edwards it's like "good job, but we expected it" you end up like Wiseman on the other hand it's like his only failure is he isn't living up to the idea of who potential player people thought he might become But then again I'm not an NBA player so I guess I don't have the ego to get me to that level and to be pissed about being overlook by say 29 other guys
Going to the Euro league transformed Dante Exum.
He was under one of the best coaches in the world at Partizan where they run like a 100 set offences. His teams went deep in playoffs in a league where it is harder to score.
Because of this he came back with much higher bball IQ, is more secure with the ball, has greater confidence and a reliable perimeter shot.
As the gap between the US and the EU shrinks I hope more young prospects go and mature their game in other leagues like Dante
I think a lot of it is being humbled by being such a high draft pick and then being out of the league shortly after. Seems it lit a fire under him and sparked the comeback
Nah he always had IQ. He literally plays the same tbh he just shoots better
i don’t think injuries should make you a bust🤷🏼♂️
I agree with you to an extent, but then you can look at Greg Oden and it’s hard to argue he is not a bust
They do
If you don't play you are a bust
The end result is the same regardless of the journey. The player didnt realise their value given the team investment that was made. You can argue its a different "type" of bust if you want to - Same result different category.
Imo you’re a bust of a pick but not necessarily a bust as a player, if that makes sense.
I wouldn’t describe Isaac as a bust, dude has just always been hurt. He’s electric when he’s on the floor.
As a magic fan he is great defensive player and difference maker when he plays. The biggest issue is WHEN he plays. He can't stay on the court
Greg oden always injured = busted the city for that year ASSUMED this would turn the ship around. I rather get 3 role players in the draft then someone we are willing to invest at least 3-5 season to get them to develop as the team leader . A top pick should already be developed as a player that could seamlessly transition to the NBA from college if they are destroying all the competition in college they should be on average a “good - great player in the nba
it didnt help that he looked 40 out of colege! lolz@@MalikGreen-p5b
Another reason the Magic are screwed by the lack of media attention. I consider myself a pretty big basketball fan and I legit had no idea Issaac wasn't injured lol
The magic may be one of the 3 least mentioned teams by the media
@alexanderalmeida6916 and it's insane. #1 pick all star in 2nd year and a great defensive team and top 5 in the east. No one says anything
@@BabaYagaRacing although I think the team is really interesting, their franchise isn't that interesting to a mainstream audience. But I think their current core is gonna make buzz sooner than later and people will find out that these guys are tough.
@@BabaYagaRacingand they have Joe Ingles who i feel is a pretty solid vet who could help some playoff teams
@@danielsmith6539 he is awful on defense
Jonathan Isaac has always been a good player just injured.
😅 i swear
This shows what actually putting out effort, and also being talented as a defensive player can do. In a league that’s scoring a ridiculous amount of points, some defense is absolutely crucial to winning. It’s the big reason why the Knicks getting OG Anunoby was such a big deal. These guys wouldn’t be making an impact now if the rest of the league would play a little defense. But kudos to them for recognizing what is in short supply in the league, and delivering it when their other options failed.
Dante has always been a good defender. One of the few who did good on prime Harden. The timing of his injuries were always the problem. When TJ Warren dislocated Dante's shoulder, in terms of timing, was the worst one. The Jazz were a regular playoff team now and when Dante came back, he was never afford the time to learn his craft. Quin Snyder kept him on a short leash and would bench him after one mistake. All those lost years to injuries.. like dayum
I agree but Dante also had no outside shot and had low IQ before he went overseas. Now those weaknesses are now his strength. Mavs are a waaaay better team when Dante is healthy
Isaac is one of best defensive players out there, his body just isn't made for nba. Guy missed almost 3 full calendar years and can only play on heavy min restrictions, can't play back to back games etc.
His offense pretty much doesn't exist but he is such an unique defender that it doesn't matter that much at least not in regular season.
All that said, you just can't rely on him because every jump he take might be his last jump in pro sports. One of most injuried players in nba history.
100%
I think this might be a fact! an interesting one....one of or the most injured player in nba history! Dante look it up IS THIS ANYTHING??
Deni avdija is having amazing season. He always was a lockdown defender and this season he's also shooting 40% from 3 and scoring 5 more points per game then last season. Show some respect!!!
Yeah he's much better this season, but he wasn't considered as a bust so he shouldn't be in his video
There wasn’t much expectation from Avdija from the start even if he was drafted high, so he was never considered a bust. More like a “project” and right now the Wizards seems to be completing that project.
Deni is amazing. I see 3rd best player on a contender potential on him
Jonathan Isaac need to learn from Herb Jones and get a consistent 3.
@@andresparry8104 He is playing small ball 5 although not a lot. Magic fans know that franz, paolo, isaac is our very own death lineup. We don't need more big playmaker since franz and paolo already a good enough playmaker. He just needs a consistent 3 and get healthy. Right now his offense mostly comes from cuts and offensive rebounds
He's shooting 45% from 3 over the last 30 games, my man
@@ryanseijuro5279 that’s fair, Franz and Paolo are already + creators and are super young. I mostly just mean that he needs to work on making the “right” play more often. His impact stats are awesome, but the one glaring exception is his pass quality. Learning to better read the defense from the post-and the perimeter -could only help the team. As far as his own shot creation, given how many mismatches he gets, making his jump hook a tad more efficient would let him rely a little more on his length than his hustle.
@@andresparry8104 I get what you're saying and i agree. I'm just saying that i don't expect that out of him. He's going to be the 5th option on any lineup anyway
@@knabelaunfortunately the season is 82 games and he is shooting 35% on the season on two attempts. Herb Jones is shooting 44% on the SEASON on 3.5 attempts a game
What happened to Exum in Europe? Proper coaching, that's all.
Not always, but many "busts" were just drafted too young. I think if some of these guys played 4 years in a good college program they would have a better NBA career.
You can put Marvin Bagley lll on the list, in Washington he's looking good
The each of these players deserves a full video about their early NBA career struggles and not calling them busts
Dante Exum is a great example of why a lot of these foreign dudes really need to play in the highest home leagues before they declare for the NBA. Exum came out after just turning 19 and never played in the NBL. The NBA is an instinct league that runs on crazy individual talent and you don't see a lot of hard defense or set offenses. Euros/Overseas are different. Team concepts come first, a lot of sets, and hard defense. Playing an extra year or two in those league's highest levels is a great education. They let you develop "feel" without it being the most important thing, they force you to learn to navigate tighter spaces, and force you to learn to play through contact.
Those are all things Exum struggled with big time in the NBA. Two years in Spain? Career high shooting %, career low TOs.
jonathan isaac wasn't a bust in the first place
he was on pace to be an all-nba defender before he tore his acl in 2020
I could be wrong but if I'm not mistaken - Jalen brunson was also drafted the same year Luka was so Luka was not the only reason why outside of DJ's inefficient scoring. Jalen Brunson was another factor as well that cant be forgotten. If I'm remembering correctly off top
isaac was always been good
Love the content
Isaac was in DPOY convos before his knee quit on him. He and Aaron Gordon werewere shutting down everything inside the arc. On offense, it was lob city with those two and whoever was the PG (particularly with Augustin since he was the best passer and the only one who could reliably shoot between him Fultz and Carter-Williams), then on top of that Vooch was still good at the time.
Glad Dante is playing well now … a very reliable player …
Frankly, DSJ started doing what he's doing last year with the Hornets. When Melo got hurt, he had to take over and the D changed significantly.
That's what I was saying
I think the problem with this list is that two things can be true at the same time they can be salvaging their careers, but they're still going to be busts
Dante Exum has always been a good player. The problem he had was he was ALWAYS injured in Utah. When he was playing well, the Jazz played well but when you miss half the season, every season, is a problem...
Dennis deserves credit for realizing he can be a star in his role and win
James Wiseman on the upswing
Jonathan Issac isn't safe from being a "bust" (not fair for being injury prone) because he still can't stay on the floor, which, in result, hasn't put up numbers but is still amazing defensively
Yupp
should of had a bigger feature on isaac my guy! hes the reason most teams fear playing the magic back then and the reason the new rookies and sophmores dreaded him coming back again in the future and present day! Ask the Knicks, Celtics, Denver, and other top tier teams best players!
As a Clevelander I was surprised not to see the 5th pick in the 2020 draft Isaac Okoro on this list.
Yo Jon Issac just had a 25 point game, pretty cool!
Exum got that eurolealeage basketball iq, been around more team play especially playing in partizan
Good to see Exum doing great in Mavs
Unfortunate that Dennis Smith Jr still sucks on offense but still a decent backup pg to have
Jonathan Isaac was never a bust
He 100% is a bust because he can't stay on the court. As a magic fan when he plays he's a difference maker but dude is out 247
@@BabaYagaRacing that’s not what a bust is
@jayherbogaming there is no set definition on what a bust is. Many people call Greg Oden a bust. Some don't. It's really just opinion
@@ThatsPety Greg Oden is a “what if”
Busts are players with high expectations that fail and have no excuse for it whatsoever
@jayherbogaming that's your opinion. Case in point, you call Greg Oden a "what if", but many many people call him a bust. I'm not saying either side is right or wrong, I'm saying not everyone has the same definition of what a bust is
imo DSJ and Dunn saved their careers last year, DSJ looked good with the hornets and that basically guaranteed him another spot even if it wasn't with them and Dunn looked nice too
Jonathan isaac has never been labeled in the NBA community we all acknowledged his injuries.
2:28 Not sure what happened? He played under the best European coach in history, that's what happened...
I cannot wait for Anthony Bennett to revive his career next year by averaging 25+ ppg over %50 shooting! He will finally prove his doubters wrong.
He’s working out with Shabazz Mohamed I hear!
The talent was always there with isaac it was just injuries that held him back his impact when he was actually on the court was always glaring
If Jon Isaac was healthy to play 30 minutes a game he would be a DPOY contender
Issac wasn't ever a bust. Injuries doesn't make a guy a bust
I liked the video. But you were very structured on Exum and then much less on the other 3. Why?
Issac was never a bust he just hasn’t been healthy which to me doesn’t mean you’re a bust. Also DSJ is still a bust. His defense is amazing but he still has no consistent offense and at best it looks like he’ll be a defensive guard off your bench.
well he was the 9th pick so it’s really not that big if he becomes just a 7th-8th option
Isaac is not a bust. He already showed he can play. He just can't stay on court
Bagley could be on here too he’s having a resurgence.
Wait but everyone keeps telling me the narrative is that players don’t play defense at all😂😂
Issac should have never been one the list lol
send prayers for jonathan isaac, dante exam and the others for they cant bust anymore 😞
Killian Hayes will be the next player to be featured in a video similar to this 😂
Straight mvp
No he won't ..Bro cant shoot and his mentality is what makes him bad but i like killian hayes because of his defense..
@@PSICK1234ikillallracistrolls r u even paying attention? That's what the video is all about, players who plays great defense
Jon is not really a bust that Acl injury killed his career for a good extent of a time. Why we call people who suffered devastating injuries bust for?
Dante Exum should be a starter! Go Mavs!
I mean Dante is decent but i don't think he's a whole lot better than he was in Utah, just relatively healthy. DSJ is literally the same player he's been since day one, just slightly more efficient. He's a backup that could stick around or could be out of the league after this season, the same story with Dunn. Isaac is solid but putting up below career average numbers because you'll miss 3 week if you play 20 minutes isn't at all saving your career.
Mavs are way better on both ends when Exum is on the floor.
u clearly dont watch him at all lol just stop
Still bust. They are top picks to be role players
Jonathan Issac isn’t a bust he’s got great defensive skills just not as good offensively as people expected
I hate to break it to you, but Exum going from the worst player in the league to a decent bench guy doesn't remove the bust label. Nobody, NOBODY picks 5th in the draft and thinks 'Hopefully one day in the next 10 years this guy can give us 20 mpg off the bench'.
Damn this reminded me of my boy Alonzo Trier 😭
Lite Michael porter jr 😭 bro aint never passed
TBH I’m glad Kris Dunn Turned His Career Around I Never Considered Him As A Bust
Wiggins has to redeem himself every year
Davion Mitchell is definitely performing well this year
isaac wasnt a bust he was js plagued with injuries
Aside from Isaac these guys are role players at best. Dante still sucks, he's just a catch and shoot guy. Dennis Smith Jr. is a solid backup. and Kris Dunn is the 8th or 9th man in a borderline bad rotation. Props to them for making millions and keeping their dreams alive, but saying they're saving their careers is like saying Ben Simmons still has a chance at a comeback.
dante doesnt suck u casual go and actually watch the games dweeb
Smith and Exxum should play more.
DSJ career resurrected last yr with the Hornets
What do you mean by saving their careers? love your videos, but i cant really agree with 3 of these. Smith jr, isaac and dunn all have been having very mediocre if not flat out bad seasons, 6ppg and 4apg or 4rpg aint called "saving your career". These were all players expected to average at least 15 and 5, bare minimum, none of those three are doing it. Would not be surprised if all 3 are out of the league in the next 3 years.
Sexton also re-igniting his career
Zion could easily "sneak" on to this list
Um Jonathan Isaac is averaging 6 ppg, 4 rpg, and 1/2 an assists, and he basically spent the prior 3 seasons injured. injuries are often part of being a bust, just ask Greg Oden. He's still a bust my friend, and a $17M/season bust at that!
I think injuries could make u a bust, remember, availability is the best ability
JI has been hurt, not a bust. On the floor he is a Top 10 defender
top 10 NO... number 1 YES
Why is there people playing in Penny Hardaway’s jersey? That’s his bro, nobody else’s and Orlando is a disgrace for this 🐂 💩
Isaac dropped 25
Jonatha. Issac is a lion amongst sheep. You know if you know.
Kings should trade for Issac
They stopped busting
Too bad Killian Hayes is not on this list.
Exum is not actually a bust
James Wiseman for sure a bust
Isaac a bust? 😂
Isaac was supposed to shine but he cursed the ancestors then suffered a major injury for it. Hopefully he learned his lesson 🤷🏾♂️
First
Has Isaac defeated "woke" yet?
Your...take...not...mine
Genuine question: why would anyone want to be drafted 1st?
If you don't live up to expectations you are labelled a bust, but if you go say 20-60 and you ball out your considered a steal.
To me I wouldn't want that pressure to perform based mostly off hype/potential.
I would rather be the quite overachiever, because if you draft me at 30 and I'm a role player then im what you expected, but if I'm jimmy 🪣 then I'm not just good I'm also better then advertised.
But on the other hand if I get made like I'm LBJ if i am that, great. Im just equal to my prodicted value, but if I don't end up an all star people are gonna call you a bust when you might be like maybe still top 10 in your class
Guys who are legitimate top pick candidates usually have a ton of confidence. They aren't thinking what if i fail as the top pick, they expect to go there and expect to perform bc they have done it at every level already
@bartholomew1608 I do get that, but I doesn't seem like enough of a reason to justify the hype from the player side.
Cause as I said if you go out their and kill it like say Ant Edwards it's like "good job, but we expected it" you end up like Wiseman on the other hand it's like his only failure is he isn't living up to the idea of who potential player people thought he might become
But then again I'm not an NBA player so I guess I don't have the ego to get me to that level and to be pissed about being overlook by say 29 other guys