Thank God Jerry Jacobson always wanted to acquire her and now he's smiling down when she gets there I want to hear her whistle do it for him his dream to acquire The King has come true.
I lived in Pittsburgh all my life till a year or two ago and I remember I was biking from the water front to McKeesport when I stumbled around the engine
I believe the first part of the video was at the Glenwood shops. At least that's where I thought they were when they moved it on air. That looks like the service racks for the Pat train when they first enter the building.
Working exactly as designed. The central axle has a low profile flange wider tyre section and considerable lateral float allowing it to move some distance either way controlled by a centring spring damper arrangement, giving the locomotive a similar ability to an eight-coupled locomotive when negotiating curves so getting around the binding problems a fixed chassis/axle arrangement would cause. The result is that this central wheel can often be seen well out of apparent alignment at times but should ride in alignment on a straight track.
@@Jello12 What you see is compressed air condensing into a vapor cloud and soot being blasted out of the stack from said air. If it were moving under it's own power, you'd see steam blowing out of the cylinder cocks from the start and a lot of billowing steam that slowly dissipates.
Story I heard was there was an arrangement between the owner and a shortline to run trips over. But by the time the engine was ready. the shortline operation folded. A case of all dressed up and nowhere to go. No idea if this is true, but its the story that is passed around.
@@jennifergauthier3014 Compressed air??? WOW, am I out of the loop!! I think I've heard of this being done before, but exactly HOW does this work? I'm VERY fascinated!!! Please respond ASAP and refer to this video. THX!!!
@@1chuck96 I believe they use a big pump to fill the boiler with air until it reaches running pressure. 765 had to be on air temporarily when she derailed at her home (it was minor and she was rerailed just fine). However, because if the limited amount of air pressure, the engine can only be moved over a short distance, which could be useful for moving it around the shop or testing the running-gear and other moving parts.
@@thereadingg3945 Hmmm! Fascinating, but obviously since steam is much denser than air, can a call be made about HOW MUCH "faux boiler pressure" does it take to propel her with air? (And I'm guessing that 250 +/- pounds on her gauges...if they worked), wouldn't be enough. Your thoughts as I'm ignorant about this procedure.
Shame she'll end up being scrapped in place due to her owner's stubbornness / stupidity. Nobody will pay 350,000 plus the million plus needed for shipping it to god knows where ever it might end up.
It was announced that is not true that is all fake and joke or scam the people who look after 643 have said she is not for sale or be scrapped they have to raise alot of money to move her to a museum for preservation.
@@RailsofMichigan It has been confirmed by Andrew Teerce on several forums that it is for sale as Campbell only has until July 1st to move it off property. The only person saying other wise is Lenny Shaner who ran/runs several fraudulent "official" railfan pages - one of which was for the 643.
As a friend of Glens, I can tell you, he is a very nice guy and a great human. So much of what you assume or read on the internet is false. I hope to be able to tell his side of the story one day. Yes, the engine is for sale, sadly, many people who have made offers in the past were the ones to back out, or fail to figure out delivery. There is always more to the story.
@@djstrains Maybe you can confirm it for me, as I am concerned for the 643's future. So the engine IS for sale? And there IS a deadline to have her moved by July 1st? There are too many rumors flying round for me to have a clear idea what is happening
@@HaddaCluMuppet, Andrew Treece started/owns Bessemer and Lake Erie 643, The only B&LE 2-10-4 in existence, page on Facebook. He shut it down after Kevin G. Varrato who is starting the museum over in McKeesport threaten to sue him. I wouldn't believe everything Treece tells you. he's known to lie to your face, just ask his ex. girlfriend Heather King.
It would’ve been much cheaper and easier just to scrap it. Like all steam locomotives, this one has served its purpose and has no reason to be saved. We have an example of one on display in the Smithsonian for future generations to see... there is no reason to waste time and money preserving others!
Blake Crosslin My point exactly. Steam locomotives are a thing of the past. Preserving history is important and we have the Southern 1401 on display in Washington to represent the steam era. Why should we spend the time and money to save others?
Many would say, why not? The question is, who is the "we" in this equation? More than likely, it is done typically through private funding. In other words, if there are those who choose to spend their own money, well then, that's their business. Therefore, any other such opinions stating contrary goes the old saying "talk is cheap". End of discussion.... Period.
643 has been saved by the Age of Steam Roundhouse! Thank god she's going to a new home in Sugarcreek, Ohio for a new chapter to finally begin with!
Brian Falzon I asked Dozens of questions she’s apparently gonna get fulley restored.
How?? She’s WAY too large for the trackage.
Will she get restored
@@anthonynigri8585 yes to opperating condition
Do you have proof
643 was just aquired by the Age Of Steam Roundhouse! She's gonna be saved!
Thank God Jerry Jacobson always wanted to acquire her and now he's smiling down when she gets there I want to hear her whistle do it for him his dream to acquire The King has come true.
YES YES YES!!! Thank whatever powers that be for that. Jerry always wanted that beast, (who doesn't? heh) and now the reality has been accomplished.
Will it run again?
@@mratsfrailfan1894 I believe their intention for right now is a cosmetic restoration.
As of right now most likely cosmetic restoration it could be restored to run but will have to wait and see for now she is safe.
1:59 the original B&LE whistle 643
I lived in Pittsburgh all my life till a year or two ago and I remember I was biking from the water front to McKeesport when I stumbled around the engine
i always wanted to hear the whistleof 643 this video gives a prime example
I believe the first part of the video was at the Glenwood shops. At least that's where I thought they were when they moved it on air. That looks like the service racks for the Pat train when they first enter the building.
She deserves better!
1:59 I miss hearing this sound
1:59 Real whistle of 643
glad this engine has a new home
Them rails were stressed how common was it to see that middle Axle and wheels to come that far over 0:13
Working exactly as designed. The central axle has a low profile flange wider tyre section and considerable lateral float allowing it to move some distance either way controlled by a centring spring damper arrangement, giving the locomotive a similar ability to an eight-coupled locomotive when negotiating curves so getting around the binding problems a fixed chassis/axle arrangement would cause. The result is that this central wheel can often be seen well out of apparent alignment at times but should ride in alignment on a straight track.
2:43 did he steamed
No compressed air
I had no idea there was existing footage being tested.
I really wish that they finished the rebuild and put her into Excursion service
I mean they did technically
Ahh I’m sooo glad she was saved! Steam wins again folks!!
Hope she is able to be saved. Thanks for posting this video.
She’s getting restored!!!
In Ohio!
@@PC10.8no she’s getting scrapped
@@Emmaolsson-sh2zyhow do you know it’s getting scrapped
For if I could win the lottery she'd be mine
B&LE. 643 was saved from the scrapyard.
I'll be damn i new there was an effort to restore her to operation i didn't know she was fired up.
They were only running compressed air in this video, but it proved she was mechanically sound
Baltic 144 Productions the middle clips show it clearly running on steam...
@@Jello12 What you see is compressed air condensing into a vapor cloud and soot being blasted out of the stack from said air. If it were moving under it's own power, you'd see steam blowing out of the cylinder cocks from the start and a lot of billowing steam that slowly dissipates.
B&LE 643 is being acquired by the Age of Steam Roundhouse!
@@BalticFilms144
And this was before the restoration began, yeah?
Is 643 still getting a rebuild?
Very nice old steam engine . It would be nice to have a voice over with some of it's history and some inside shots.
This Locomotive Needs To Be Restored Along With T&P 610 So They Can Do A Doubleheader On The Norfolk Southern.
Or the madam queen 5000 that's another 2 10 4 Texas type steam engine undergoing an operational restoration
Good luck running steam on NS
Omg you hear the whistle
This is a sad opa..
I'd never actually seen video of her running before, THANKS for posting this. But I'm curious, did she only run inside that building? If so, why?
Story I heard was there was an arrangement between the owner and a shortline to run trips over. But by the time the engine was ready. the shortline operation folded. A case of all dressed up and nowhere to go. No idea if this is true, but its the story that is passed around.
WILL THIS ENGINE EVER GET RESTORED
1:59 Da Fuck Just Happened Did My Eyes Just Played A Trick On Me Cuz I Just Saw 643 Moving On Her Own!
I’ve heard stories of it running off of compressed air. Is this one of those cases?
Yes
@@BalticFilms144 Never thought that was possible... Wow.
When the engines under restoration. They're gonna install new air compressors for he engine to it will run.
AnasiaCameronElijah EDCP NDCP AUTTP UTTP Fan1936 um no
Any footage of the engine being test fired?
The engine is just running on compressed air
@@jennifergauthier3014 Compressed air??? WOW, am I out of the loop!! I think I've heard of this being done before, but exactly HOW does this work? I'm VERY fascinated!!! Please respond ASAP and refer to this video. THX!!!
@@1chuck96 I believe they use a big pump to fill the boiler with air until it reaches running pressure. 765 had to be on air temporarily when she derailed at her home (it was minor and she was rerailed just fine). However, because if the limited amount of air pressure, the engine can only be moved over a short distance, which could be useful for moving it around the shop or testing the running-gear and other moving parts.
@@thereadingg3945 Hmmm! Fascinating, but obviously since steam is much denser than air, can a call be made about HOW MUCH "faux boiler pressure" does it take to propel her with air? (And I'm guessing that 250 +/- pounds on her gauges...if they worked), wouldn't be enough. Your thoughts as I'm ignorant about this procedure.
Shame she'll end up being scrapped in place due to her owner's stubbornness / stupidity. Nobody will pay 350,000 plus the million plus needed for shipping it to god knows where ever it might end up.
It was announced that is not true that is all fake and joke or scam the people who look after 643 have said she is not for sale or be scrapped they have to raise alot of money to move her to a museum for preservation.
@@RailsofMichigan It has been confirmed by Andrew Teerce on several forums that it is for sale as Campbell only has until July 1st to move it off property. The only person saying other wise is Lenny Shaner who ran/runs several fraudulent "official" railfan pages - one of which was for the 643.
As a friend of Glens, I can tell you, he is a very nice guy and a great human. So much of what you assume or read on the internet is false. I hope to be able to tell his side of the story one day. Yes, the engine is for sale, sadly, many people who have made offers in the past were the ones to back out, or fail to figure out delivery. There is always more to the story.
@@djstrains Maybe you can confirm it for me, as I am concerned for the 643's future. So the engine IS for sale? And there IS a deadline to have her moved by July 1st? There are too many rumors flying round for me to have a clear idea what is happening
@@HaddaCluMuppet, Andrew Treece started/owns Bessemer and Lake Erie 643, The only B&LE 2-10-4 in existence, page on Facebook. He shut it down after Kevin G. Varrato who is starting the museum over in McKeesport threaten to sue him. I wouldn't believe everything Treece tells you. he's known to lie to your face, just ask his ex. girlfriend Heather King.
It would’ve been much cheaper and easier just to scrap it. Like all steam locomotives, this one has served its purpose and has no reason to be saved. We have an example of one on display in the Smithsonian for future generations to see... there is no reason to waste time and money preserving others!
Blake Crosslin My point exactly. Steam locomotives are a thing of the past. Preserving history is important and we have the Southern 1401 on display in Washington to represent the steam era. Why should we spend the time and money to save others?
Many would say, why not? The question is, who is the "we" in this equation? More than likely, it is done typically through private funding. In other words, if there are those who choose to spend their own money, well then, that's their business. Therefore, any other such opinions stating contrary goes the old saying "talk is cheap". End of discussion.... Period.
Angus Paul you're acting like a Lunatic God. And you just want all steam locomotives to be scrapped. And you're so evil.
Idea what if we scrap 1401. It's taking up too much space in Smithsonian, we need to replace it in the building with the new Tesla Cybertruck.
Mate remember this is your opinion. OPINIONS ARE LIKE ARSEHOLES EVERYBODY'S GOT ONE