Evidence that Noah's Flood Formed the Fossil Record - Dr. Kurt Wise (The Paleontology of the Flood)
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- The fossil record can be difficult to understand. It is, however, an extremely important witness to the results of the global flood and its aftermath in the post-flood period. During the 2017 IGH Conference, Dr. Kurt Wise explored the impact of the Flood on the earth in a series of three in-depth lectures. This lecture on the “study of fossils,” the second in the series, provides a fascinating look at the nature of the fossil record. Paleontology is actually Kurt’s specialty, having received his PhD from Harvard while studying under evolutionary paleontologist Steven J. Gould. Needless to say, Kurt understands paleontology extremely well from both perspectives.
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Specific topics of “Paleontology of the Flood” include:
2:40 - Biostratigraphic Column
10:00 - Nature of Fossilization
19:45 - Footprints/Trackways
25:00 - Disparity vs. Diversity
29:00 - Organismal Change: Stasis and Abrupt Appearance
32:30 - Testing Evolutionary Claims
40:00 - Floating Forest Theory
50:00 - Explanation of Coal Layers
1:07:00 - Overview of Model
The thing he said about floating forest is logical. My grandparents used to lived in the deep jungle of Borneo Island where they told us story about land thats waving when you walk on it. Then they realized its actually a big lake underneath the ground. Sadly the forest is gone now because of oil palm plantation. The lake is also dried.
Floatong forrests across oceans with strong or moderate waves? The thing with floating mats of living vegetation is that they are always in stagnate water where gssses like methane can build up and help contribute to the buoyancy of the structure, that just cant happen over an open ocean where perturbations from wind, waves, storms, and the scale of the water column that gas would have to tracel between would destabalise such a struture within days.
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I doubt your methane assumption to be true - and for SURE no one is talking about vegetation bridges - they are talking about vegetation MATS - that can be several acres in size that raft across large bodies of water - which are OBSERVABLE today.
"Floatong forrests across oceans with strong or moderate waves? "
They need NOT bridge oceans to carry wildlife. MOST intercontinental wildlife dispersion was via landbridges.
"The thing with floating mats of living vegetation is that they are always in stagnate water "
OBSERVABLY not so.
"where gssses like methane can build up and help contribute to the buoyancy of the structure,"
WHY is that necessary or even an issue? WOOD floats without methane.
"that just cant happen over an open ocean where perturbations from wind, waves, storms, and the scale of the water column that gas would have to tracel between would destabalise such a struture within days."
YOU create several compounding strawman arguments -
1) that methane is necessary
2) that vegetation needed to form bridges and not rafts
3)The scale of the water column need not be considered as vegetation mats are NOT a deep sea phenomena.
NONE are required to RAFT species from ONE place to another.
@@paulrobinson9318 a strawman is when one makes an aesthetically similar fundimentally different argument and attack that one instead of the original argument. I never said anything about a bridge of any kind. I wasnt talking about carrying wildlife, i was talking about known floating forrests menationed by op, and explaining how they are not similar to wise's cracks.
@@nunyabisnass1141
You simply did not specify WHAT you were referring to but your INFERENCE was that you were arguing against vegetation bridges crossing deep and turbulent waters assuredly to allow animals to habitate other continents.
Sry if I assumed more that you intended but you certainly were not explicit.
I bet that jungle isn't in salt water.
I’m from eastern Russia, my father and grandfather, older brother were all coal miners... this man isn’t lying about coal..
I appreciate hearing you. Thanks, God bless
OhkI Ben I
are you Orthodox? Orthodoxy is the True Church :)
@@ThomasG_Nikolaj I couldn’t agree more
@@ZacharyClause you're a based Chad of a man God bless sir
It is amazing to me that it is not easier to believe there is a God who created the heavens and the earth and all the things created in the earth. People have to go through serious hoops to make the theory of evolution work. Thank you for your presentation. God bless 💛
Evolution is a theory it already works.
Theories are not guesses in science
Cynthia. Hi "Serious hoops? " You mean like - an education?
@@alanthompson8515
Don't use confusing words like _education_ when addressing _creationists._ To them _education_ only means reading their _holy book._ Oddly they don't actually do that. As *_Mark Twain_* said, _The best cure for Christianity is reading the Bible._
@@philaypeephilippotter6532 so accepted dogma from textbooks and evolutionists are the way to go? Yeah ok buddy
2 Corinthians4:3,4 may answer your question Cynthia.
Its sad to see so many people automatically being shut down by so many other people that don't even give the theory a chance. I don't even see many people actually arguing with formulated ideas or sentences, they just rudely and sarcastically reject everything these people have to say when they are actually explaining themselves in a clear way. But instead of being opposed in a clear way by people who disagree, I keep seeing blatant disrespect. People saying creationists are on drugs, crazy, unscientific, and not even giving a second thought.
They don't need to agree with creationists, Christianity, or even all these plausible theories. But that doesn't mean they should be behaving in this way.
What else do you expect when he takes a bible to make an argument about the fossil record?
@@monza8844 Your are the poster child for bigotry and hate his is talking about...thanks for the illustration.
This excellent video series provides unbiased scientific evidences for a global flood, such as:
1. Transcontinental megasequence rock layering
2. Megasequences contain graduated sediments (larger to smaller particles, bottom to top)
3 Laminate layers (very little bioturbation)
4. Little or no erosion between layers, denoting rapid layering.
5. Consistent east-to-west currents (denoting the moon holding the flood water while the earth revolves under it)
6. Sand transported across continents.
7. Rock layers folded, not fractured, denoting soft, pliable rock layering when plate tectonics began to divide the continents.
8. High and dry sea creatures (even in the Himalayan plateau)
9. Fossil graveyards everywhere (even though fossilization is a complicated, rare occurrence under normal circumstances).
Dan
777THUTH777, you wrote, "1. The flood is global so the bed should be all around the planet."
The flood didn't happen instantly, dummy.
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777THUTH777, you wrote, "2. What mega sequences of graduated sediments? We find distinct layers of different kinds of rock"
The layers in each megasequence are graduated from the largest particles at the bottom, to the smallest at the top. Each megasequence is capped by micritic carbonate, formed by billions of bacteria.
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777THUTH777, you wrote, "3. No, different aged sediments"
Gibberish.
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777THUTH777, you wrote, "4. You don't need erosion to lay down rock layers."
Huh? LOL! More gibberish. Each layer has little or no erosion, and little or no bioturbation, denoting rapid deposition of one layer on top of the other. Otherwise, there would be evidence of erosion, and the destruction of the lamination.
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777THUTH777, you wrote, "5. ''the moon holding the water'' Tides don't make distinct layers or sort fossils LOL"
Are you really that stupid?
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777THUTH777, you wrote, "6. The sand was deposited by the wind, and only across continents not world wide."
I guess you really are that stupid.
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777THUTH777, you wrote, "7. Folding of rock happens deep in the earth under heat and pressure and the rock was never soft."
Dumber than dirt! LOL!
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777THUTH777, you wrote, "8. Plate tectonics raised an ancient sea bed to make a layer of limestone on Mt. Everest. If a flood dun-it there would be shells on the top of every mountain and there isn't."
Where did you get your "geology" training, Marvel Comics?
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777THUTH777, you wrote, "9. Not all sedimentary rock is laid down by water, some fossils are found in wind deposited layers."
Baloney.
Dan
Erosion occurs at the top of the Precambrian (the "Great Unconformity") and at the top of the megasequences, but not between the individual layering. The lack of erosion and bioturbation indicates rapid layering.
The "Great Uniformity" is a widespread geological feature:
_"The Great Unconformity is well exposed in the Grand Canyon, but this geomorphic surface, which records the erosion and weathering of continental crust followed by sediment accumulation, can be traced across Laurentia and globally, including Gondwana, Baltica, Avalonia and Siberia, making it the most widely recognized and distinctive stratigraphic surface in the rock record." [Peters & Gaines, "Formation of the 'Great Unconformity’ as a trigger for the Cambrian explosion." Nature, 2012, 19 April, Vol 484, p.363]_
Dan
Evolutionism is a myth, based on magic! Don't ever forget that, no matter how much they try to brainwash you!
The Precambrian Layers were formed between 6,000 to 7,500 years ago when the Lord God created the earth; and it was covered first by the Cambrian Layer (which contained the Cambrian Explosion of fully-developed animals), by the world-wide flood, as written in the Holy Bible.
777THUTH777, I suspect you are too far gone, but God only knows. We will pray from your delivery from that hateful cult that has chained you.
Dan
There may be falsehood, but we must speak the truth in love, brother, and by God's grace remember to "Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse them... Repay no one evil for evil, but give thought to do what is honourable in the sight of all." (Romans 12:12, 17) God bless you both, and I pray you would always be rejoicing more deeply in Christ or come to know his grace for the first time. Love and peace
@@cjson God Bless you to, I have to learn not to let anger get the better of me, the reason is I remember the exact point I lost my Faith as a child in 1981 because of the vestigial tail bone lie, I was just a ten year old it excited my mind of swinging around with my tail, it was all down hill from there, i am angry because I never would have got into Drugs and Alcohol the way I did I am off the drugs now, But I suppose it was a good thing if it never happened I wouldn't be trolling around the internet destroying evolutionist faith in evolution the way I am, I am still really angry though my life would have been a lot better without the poison of evolution infecting my mind.
*Hitler polpot Marx Stalin and Evolutionary thinking*
Hitler used the German Word for Evolution 150 times in his Book mein kampf, He used Evolution to Justify the Vile Evil he did to the Jews, because if we Believe in a Creator who Created us in his Image and Likeness All Humans have Value no matter what Color shape or Size we are, he used evolution to show that some humans are Superior and that others aren't, that some people are higher on the evolutionary tree and others are lower on the Tree of life, Stalin, Mao, Polpot all the same, When Polpot was introduced to Darwins book that is when he developed his ideas of Urban Struggle then Murdered hundreds of thousands, Stalin was in a Christian School when he was introduced to Darwins Evolutionary ideas, he developed his ideas on CRITICAL THINKING after this, then went on to kill 10's of millions of people, Mao same thing, he read Darwins book then went on to murder 60 million people, Carl Marx same thing, Karl Marx even wrote a letter to Darwin saying how wonderful he was and how much he admired him. Evolution has been responsible for taking away the idea that All Human beings have intrinsic value no matter color size or shape, Evolutionary ideas take away Moralistic values and the sense of right and wrong, because if you're just an Animal that climbed out of the slime and evolved via naturalistic processes and that its all about survival of the fittest, than there is no Right or wrong, its all about survival of the Superior ones that out compete the Weaker less worthy ones, that which is right for you may not be right for somebody else, if I feel like murdering you than that is right for me because I am superior to you, and if I eliminate you I am simply helping the Human race to become stronger by getting rid of the genetically inferior out of the Gene Pool.
this is the ultimate conclusion to evolutionary thinking, Evolution is pure evil straight from Satans mind to destroy Gods Creation, and lead us into hell. Teach people they're nothing but animals don't be surprised when they act like Animals.
*Religion starts wars*
"An interesting source of truth on the matter is Philip and Axelrod's three-volume incyclopedia of wars, which chronicles some 1763 wars that have been waged over the course of human history. Of those wars, the Authors categorize 123 as being religious in Nature, which is an astonishingly low 6.93% of all wars. However, when one subtracts out those waged in the name of Islam, (66) the percentage is cut by more than half to 3.23% "
A large portion of the wars Christian's are and were involved in were defensive not aggressive". The vast majority of wars Muslims are and were involved in, Were and are Aggressive in nature not defensive.
The cause of the vast majority of war death and suffering is, Non-religious people who think they're superior to everybody else around them who think they're more highly evolved
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ATHEISTIC COMMUNISM! Is responsible for hundreds of millions of people going to an early grave.
Thats 1763 Wars waged across human history, 123 are classed as being Religious, You Atheist Evolutionists belong to a dangerous Murderous cult called Atheism, How many people in Prison do you reckon are Religious Christians, more than 90% of violent criminals are, YES YOU GUESSED IT!! Atheists,, how many people in the violent street crime gangs are Devout religious Christians, You Atheists need to wake up, Teach people they're nothing but animals don't be surprised when they act like animals.
I live in the middle of a HUGE fossilized oyster bed. My little back yard (about 15 ft. × 15 ft) has produced HUNDREDS of fossils. Many perfect and some paper thin, also in perfect condition. I have also found about four or five fan type oyster shells not fossilized in the same strata. The real amazing thing is my backyard is actually at a high point and there's a severe drop-off leading to a creek down below. I wish I wasn't handicapped, I would already be down in that creek bed!
I have frequently gone to road cuts and dug for fossils with my kids here in Texas. In two different layers probably 5 to 6 feet in depth we have regularly found fossils of the same species of sea urchin and sea biscuits.
@@joeholloway3773 I thought Seabiscuit was a horse.
@@joeholloway3773 great one on hwy 69 outside of Tyler
@@mannymistakesin8353 I'll have to come check it out.
Where is this? And how far above (the current) Sea level are you? And how far from the nearest ocean? This is FASCINATING! I can't believe there are no Christian Archaeology students, Professors, paleontology buffs who wouldn't jump at the chance to get down the climb one foot or layer at a time to "read" the whole story pleading to be read!
I grew up in West Virginia and my father allowed a piece of property we owned to be strip mined. As you described, it was very flat on the top and bottom of the vein, the vein was about 6 feet thick with soap stone below and clay above. I spent hours as a teen cracking open lumps of coal to see leaves and fern fossils. the lowermost part of the coal seemed to have the most intact material. Of course I was looking for a dinosaur bone but never found that prize.
Probably your dad is also your grandad
@Brody Massey
Paleontologist!
Hey Boom Dawg, I am a fossil hunter. Fossils found include fish, birds, more mammals than I can list quickly and dino's. Contact me and I'll take plus you can keep whatever you find.
Coal is 320 million years old. Dinosaurs are maximum 252 million years old. It would have helped if you had looked for dinosaurs in a dinosaur layer and not from the time when plants ruled the world.
@@mariocassina90 probably you need an education.
Please explain why there are no rabbit fossils to be found in the Cambrian.
Please explain why dinosaur fossils are below the KT boundary.
Please explain why no modern creatures are to be found in the Burgess shale.
I was thinking the same thing.
@@cskinner0129
What an intelligent fellow you are, and handsome too, Ill warrant. HaHaHaHa.
@@patrickkelly7612 I was thinking the same thing.
Very interesting. It seems like most of the creation stuff I see is nowhere near this detailed, but they mostly deal in the big picture, so I really appreciate the theories going over this level of detail.
Theories, easy to say but present some credible evidence.
animus apertus, you wrote, "Theories, easy to say but present some credible evidence."
Did you catch the part about the coal seam benches?
th-cam.com/video/xCdt6LjvFvA/w-d-xo.htmlm56s
Those benches appear to be impossible with the evolution model. Of course, so are polystrates, and especially those which span multiple coal seams and benches.
Dan
@@ozowen5961 Yes Epigenetic Regulation.
ozowen, you wrote, "Polystrates are not impossible under the "evolution" model. Not sure why you called a geological phenomenon and evolution model. We learned about polystrates in school in the 70's so I am always puzzled as to why creationists think they are some sort of secret 'gotcha'."
Perhaps you will explain how they were formed.
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ozowen, you wrote, "Why do you think coal seam benches are impossible? I can't see why you think it is somehow impossible under the standard geological model."
Perhaps you will explain how they were formed.
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ozowen, you wrote, "Geologists have no issue with it at all."
Geologists have plenty of issues with them. Evolutionists, on the other hand, pretend to have "no issue at all with them," but they cannot scientifically explain them.
They only assume they fit the evolutionism model.
Dan
kennyw
And your credible evidence for evolution is? You can't name one animal that changed into another. You can't name one legitimate transitional. Bring it.
What did humans evolve from again? Lucy? Bring it
Arenchymous tissue is always associated with waterlogged plants, and often with marine submerged trees, like the mangroves. This theory is plausible and well presented.
What is arench....?
Luke 19:40 But He answered and said to them, “I tell you that if these should keep silent,the stones would immediately cry out.”
@@JB-yb4wn just cause it don’t make sense to you doesn’t mean it don’t make sense to us
Danny that was a good one!
@@rastawamebry8533 Your grammar is atrocious.
@@rastawamebry8533 - Just because it makes sense to you doesn't mean that it actually makes sense
@@JB-yb4wn there is no drug that makes you smart so you're screwed
You do realize that Noah's flood is a total myth and never actually happened? WHERE did enough water to flood the earth above its tallest mountains come from and where did it ALL disappear afterwards?
Good question, talks about the oceans of the great deep that's where it came from and went back too, besides the big part that is still frozen.
And that claim you are making is made by "scientists" the same scientists that believe a flood is possible on Mars but not Earth 😂😂 but it's not really scientists because evolution is a religion not science.
Thing is most people reject it cause in the end of the day it's not a head problem, its a heart problem.
It came up out of the fountains of the deep, and down from the sphere that surrounded the globe. And it probably didn't disappear - see the difference in depth between the continental shelves and the ocean floors. It's probably making that difference.
So some bazillion tons of it might have went back down into the fountains of the deep.
And if there was a water canopy around the earth, wouldn't it have to have been liquid so the stars, moon and sun could be seen thru it? And if it was very thick, say a half mile, wouldn't it have worked like a lense and magnified those bodies? And made the sunlight hotter than without it?.
The continents are covered with an average of 1,800 meters of sedimentary materials deposited by rapidly moving water which are heavily littered with rapidly buried creatures which are now fossils. This geologic fact provides overwhelming evidence of the Noaich Flood because uniformitariqanism cannot have produced the strata, it has been demonstrated scientifically that strata form rapidly and in groups together at the same time, making the strata above and below any given streata to be of no difference in age. Features of the strata which prove global catastrophism is the cause of the global strata are:
1. The mountains of the earth are comprised to a large extent of deformed strata, which cannot have become deformed by heat and pressure miles deep inside the earth, but were instead soft and moist when deformed
2. There is a nearly complete absence of erosion between any of the strata
3. There is a nearly complete absence of grass in the geologic column
4. There is a nearly complete absence of soil in the geologic column
5. The strata have fine and distinct boundaries between each other instead of gradating
6. The majority of strata possess grain-size distribution - a feature that is produced only by rapid sedimentation
7. Sand dunes formed under water litter the continents, verified by their approximately 15 degree angle of inclination. Sand dunes formed by wind have an approximately 25 degree angle of inclination.
8. Fossilization requires rapid burial - all strata in which there are fossils were deposited rapidly, regardless of other properties they may have.
9. Mountain Water Gaps exist globally - mountains which were still soft and moist after rapid uplift which were pulverized by a newly created stream of water (river) which ate through the mountain.
Water seeks the path of least resistance and could not have eaten through the side of a mountain. It would instead flow around it.
10. Dropstones are common in mountains - large rocks and boulders which have become moved into place by very fast moving water and sealed in sedimentary strata which deform around them
11. Planation Surfaces are plentiful on the earth - broad areas, sometimes hundreds or thousands of square miles which have been planed off by massive sheets of rapidly moving water as the flood waters ebated the continents during the end stage of the Noaich Flood - uniformitarianism cannot account for massive planation surfaces.
12. Percussion Marks - impact marks ranging is size from small to huge on rocks and boulders across the earth show that extremely fast moving water (up to and beyond 100 mph) has moved rocks weighing up to tons at high speed - enough speed to cause percussion marks under water when they collide with each other.
13. Massive quantities of methane hydrates lining the continents - frozen or semi-frozen methane hydrate which is buried in sediments around the edges of the continents - produced by massive volumes of plant matter ripped from the continents and buried which has now become frozen methane gas. There is so much of it that if it could be mined efficiently, it would provide enough energy for the entire world for over a century.
14. Oil and gas reserves under high pressure - the pressure could not be present after many millions of years. The gas or oil would dissipate all pressure through fissures and microfissures in the rocks. Unless the oil and gas were produced recently, it could not be under high pressure.
15. Polystrate fossils - leaves, marine fossils, trees, worms, etc. show that the strata in which they are encased were deposited rapidly, effectively eliminating all concepts of vast geologic time.
16. Massive canyons - carved out while their strata going down to 1 mile or more deep into the earth were eroded very rapidly, effectively eliminating all concepts of vast geologic time.
17. Megasequences - There are 5 major megasequences which span the majority of North America and can be found globally: 1. Sauk Megasequence, which rests upon basement granite 2. Tippecanoe Megasequence 3. Keskaskia Megasequence 4. Arrasoka Megasequence. 5. Zuni Megasequence The Navjo Sandstone covers 400,000 sq. km in the western US. comprised of grains eroded from the Appalatian Mountains. The Coconino Sandstone formation averages 315 ft. thick and covers 518,000 sq. km in the US. and sits on the Hermit Shale. The boundary between them is extremely fine. This removes the potential for long perionds of time between the Hermit Shale and Cocconino Sandstone, and verifies both were created rapidly. The Tapeats Sandstone and Redwall Limestone of Grand Canyon can be traced across the entire United States, up into Canada, and even across the Atlantic Ocean to England. The chalk beds of England (the white cliffs of Dover) can be traced across Europe into the Middle East and are also found in the Midwest of the United States and in Western Australia. Inclined (sloping) layers within the Coconino Sandstone of Grand Canyon are testimony to 10,000 cubic miles of sand being deposited by huge water currents within days. Directional sorting is often found in the fossil record. The Miffle Permian Qixia and Maikou limestone of southeast China cover 1.2 million sq. km.
18. Giant gravel deposit sheets miles wide and dozens of feet thick (such as in western Sichuan Basin, China), sometimes up to hundreds of miles from their source location, and massive rock deposites up to miles deep
19. Numerous other facts - erosion rates, geologic young age for the earth's rocks, genetic mutation rates, and many others all discredit uniformitarianism and show the Flood of Noah is a historical geological fact.
Evan Sorry but most of what you state in your post is not supported by the geologic data around the world. Specifically Point 2 in your post is simply not true. I have mapped using well logs and 2D/3D seismic data numerous cases where there is obvious erosion between rock layers, usually evidenced as angular unconformities and the pinchout of beds below the unconformity.
An excellent example of such an erosional unconformity is found at Siccar Point in Scotland a bit east of Edinburgh. If you are not able to visit this outcrop you can got here on TH-cam, simply type in Siccar Point and view the videos. Obviously the lower beds were deposited, buried and lithified, uplifted and tilted, eroded and then the overlying sandstones deposited across the eroded beds. These new sediments were also buried and lithified and the uplifted and eroded to the position we see today.
These angular unconformities with erosion between beds are fairly common around the world and through the geologic column indicating the processes of deposition, burial, uplift and tilting, erosion, and new deposition has occurred on the Earth for a long, long time.
This seems to my mind as a lot of geologic processes to occur in the time that many Young Earth Creationists claim, e.g. 6000 years, since the beginning of the Earth.
@@petechimney6755 *Continental Erosion Rates.*
Australia. Most of the continent is said to be older than 0.5 billion years, while some is supposed to be older than 3.0 billion years. Orthodox geologists are surprised that very little erosion has occurred in ‘all this time, only evolutionist worker bee drones think they can explain this away, the real Creationist and evolutionary scientists realize this is a problem for evolution.
sedimentologists have researched many of the world’s rivers and calculated how fast the land is disappearing. The measurements show that some rivers are excavating their basins by more than 1,000 mm (39 inches) of height in 1,000 years, while others move only 1 mm (0.04 inches) in 1,000 years. The average height reduction for all the continents of the world is about 60 mm (2.4 inches) per 1,000 years, which equates to some 24 billion tonnes of sediment per year. That is a lot of top dressing!
On the scale of one human life-span, these rates of erosion are low. But for those who say the continents are billions of years old, the rates are staggering. A height of 150 kilometres (93 miles) of continent would have eroded in 2.5 billion years. It defies common sense. If erosion had been going on for billions of years, no continents would remain on Earth, and there would be no fossils left or very little left, we wouldn't see the great sheets of sedimentary rock about 0.5 to 1.5 miles deep running from continent to continent around the entire planet with uncountable trillions of sea creature fossils in them, Noah's flood explains this much better than the evolutionary computer model.
The mountain ranges, such as the Caledonides of western Europe and the Appalachians of eastern North America are even harder to explain because they are not as high as Everest, yet are supposed to be several hundred million years old LOL!!!. If erosion has been going on for this long, these mountains should not exist.
Erosion rates of some major rivers of the world Average lowering of the land surface within the drainage basin in mm and inches per 1000 years.17 Wei-Ho 1350 (53)
Hwang-Ho 900 (35) Ganges 560 (22) Alpine Rhine and Rhone 340 (13) San Juan (U.S.A.) 340 (13) Irrawaddy 280 (11) Tigris 260 (10) Isere 240 (9.4) Tiber 190 (7.5) Indus 180 (7.1) Yangtse 170 (6.7) Po 120 (4.7) Garonne and Colorado 100 (3.9) Amazon 71 (2.8) Adige 65 (2.6) Savannah 33 (1.3) Potomac 15 (0.59) Nile 13 (0.51) Seine 7 (0.28) Connecticut 1 (0.04)
Going by the Lowest erosion rates every continent on Earth would be Eroded away completely gone washed into the Oceans about every 10 to 18 million years let's just stick with 12 million years that's every continent gone 10 times over in Just 120 million years, That's a lot for continental uplift to account for going by evolutionary timescales, all the salt would have washed into the Oceans, the amount of salt that comes back out via Man and natural processes cannot account for the amount going in, much more salt going in than coming out bearing in mind that if all the salt on all the land masses washed into the Oceans everything would die including us, also there is a sedimentary rock layer that is around about half a mile deep to 1.5 miles deep that runs clear across this Earth that is full of trillions and trillions and trillions of fossils, these fossils are found from the tops of mountains that run right down below the Earth, we don't see these massive fossil beds forming today, if Continental uplift was accounting for the erosion rates we wouldn't see these great sheets of sedimentary rock with trillions and trillions and trillions of fossils in them running all the way across this Earth running from continent to continent. The evolutionists may be able to explain away some of this, but they cannot explain why we see all this sedimentary rock teaming with Trillions upon Trillions of fossils, mostly sea creature fossils thousands of miles inland running from the tops of mountains to the bottom of mountains and deep under the Earth everywhere, besides the Erosion rates are to high and to fast for evolutionists to account for this everywhere on all land masses, they only have theories, hypotheses and wild Assumptions and a corrupted world view to base their explanations on, anybody with any common sense at all could see this smacks evolution in the face hard, they can't account for this without invoking ridiculous fantastic Hypotheses that have no foundation in reality or science, and they can never back up their wild Assumptions claims theories and hypotheses with Scientific Peer Reviewed papers that show the problem has been solved, No usually it's a paper about more Hypotheses and theories on how the Original theory works, Never facts always wild claims with zero proof.
1. Also remember that the Evolutionists say the continents formed about 2.5 billion years ago and at the lowest erosion rate 150 kilometers of land mass would have eroded away in that time, that us a humongous amount for continental uplift to account for, not to mention if that was the case all the Great sheets of sedimentary rock 0.5 to 1.5 with Trillions of fossils in them they would have been eroded replaced with different geological layers. evolutionist fairytales are So funny :)
creation.com/eroding-ages
@@petechimney6755 Oh Yes could you tell me more about these erosion rates please, are they just isolated small areas, or does this erosion in the Strata you're talking about is it all over the Earth? Or in small areas I mean small compared to all the Strata across the hole Earth?
There is no consistent rate of erosion. Several factors are involved: erosive capability of the rock(s), amount of rainfall, topography, yearly climate. In general rocks in areas with high rainfall and softer rocks erode faster. Having said that glacial advances might scrape off a lot of rock material in a short period of time.
In general erosion of a highland will be confined to that area. Little erosion will occur along a coastal plain. During major storms such as hurricanes coastal erosion may be significant but this is erosion of soft sediment and little in the way of erosion of lithified rock. During periods of flooding there may be erosion along the edge of rivers but again this is typically soft sediment and not rock material.
In general there is no world-wide erosional surface. Not even at the top of the crystalline basement, which is usually (but not always) Precambrian age, is there a single surface of erosion.
@@petechimney6755 RUBBISH that there is no consistent erosion rate, GO look internet search the official government erosion rates Super Genius, I have looked, But you won't check it out because it goes against your satanic evolution paradigm.
So a flood event that was violent enough to deposit large masses of vegetation, animals and sediments simultaneously, was also gentle enough to preserve footprints? Nah you have to explain that instead of simply asserting it quickly and moving on.
You have to show how a violent event can preserve delicate details both above and below those details before you can expect anyone to buy your hypothesis.
Explain how the foot prints got preserved then so we can "buy" your hypothesis.
@@Real_Genuflekt depends on the type of print. Usually its an impression made in some type of mud that drys out and gets covered later. Same thing can happen with sand, even sand under water. The trick is a gentle deposition of a top layer that would drift in from wind or moved in from small wave actions. I violent action lime storm waves would almost certainly destroy any freshly laid tracks. But it isn't even that though. Theres no clear timeline or agreed upon rate or depth for which how fast the global flood rose, so it becomes very difficult to think about why tracks all over the world can have tracks in multiple layers of sedimentary rock, meaning animals were still alive to make them at those times. So it would impossible for such a thing to occur if its even remotely as sudden as is widely accepted.
Oi your common sense and balanced thinking is not welcome here
Thank you for all research and hard work.
You must love Jehovah your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength. You must love your neighbor as yourself. Jesus the anointed is Lord! Repent and be baptized and believe the Gospel.
It would be great if you could show us fossils of humans who died in Noah's flood.
My thoughts exactly. There should be mass graves piled or stacked up similarly to the midwestern dinosaurs located in North America.
I've heard it explained that humans (being most intelligent) would keep moving to higher ground during the flood so a lot were probably not buried in a way that they could be fossilized , perhaps alot decomposed.
He can't humans weren't around 185-66 million years ago
Matt Smith lack of human fossils is actually a much bigger problem for evolution, it makes sense for the creation model. There may have been several million people at the time, who were smart enough to move to high ground. Their bodies likely floated away and were scavenged
@@fzr1000981that’s not a good enough explanation. All living animals would float if they drown.
This guy spends 30 minutes preparing you for what he is really excited share. Well done
Trouble is, it's all nonsense.
@@ozowen Your comment is nonsense and not backed by anything. Try again.
@@Flagrum3
Your comment was not backed by anything. It was nonsense.
Facts:
There was no global flood. This is not in dispute. Every marker required for such an event is missing. Worse yet, there is a plethora of evidence for all sorts of events that did happen that rule out a global flood.
7 civilisations completely failed to get wet.
The rise of civilisations after the supposed flood and their dispersal mean that the flood cannot have happened. The birth rate, maturation rate of individuals and dispersal cannot match the flood timing.
But those are easy ones.
The presence of aerial layers in a consistent pattern, including globally mean- no flood.
The fossil order- trait appearances in the fossil record- and there is a fossil record and it is robust and it is used predictively, mean no flood.
The presence of any dry formation is simply impossible in the supposed flood scenario. But there they are. There are many layers, for example, that can only form after they have dried out. But that cannot happen if they are under what creationists claim were sediments laid down in the flood.
Varves are a biennial laminae that cannot remain stable, being as they are, thin laminae (thin strata) laid down as glaciers go through summer and winter cycles. Creationists like to claim they can be laid down in storms too. Fair enough- but they cannot remain intact when hit with turbulent, roiling flood waters impacted by those nearby mountain ranges being formed- so- no flood.
So this is the equivalent of calling the video: The Palaeontology of the Middle Earth
@Atheist Deprogramming
No there was no global flood.
Aerial layers like the iridium anomaly laid down after the dust cloud encapsulated the entire planet (causing the demise of the dinosaurs), or volcanic dust layers. None of these can be anything but dispersed in a flood. The chances of a distinct layer are exactly zero.
"I suspect you're talking about layers like the Coconino sandstone"
Nope. There are layers globally caused by things like river mouths drying out. They can only be formed where the river mouth dries leaving a very particular shape and type of layer. They are everywhere on the globe and they are impossible in the flood.
"The layers you're talking about may be post-flood or they may be during the flood and simply misidentified as being from glacial activity."
Nope, they are biennial layers. There is sometimes extra formation in storms, those are distinct. They are certainly not misidentified. They are always adjacent to glacial formations- which are themselves distinct. There is no evidence for your claims- you are now obviously working backwards from your conclusion to force evidence.
"It is all-too-common for evolutionists to misidentify strata, be proven wrong, yet the myth be propagated."
This is nonsense. What you mean is that scientists do not comply to creationist assertions. (ie: non scientific assertions)
"The flood is obvious and one day you will meet the Lord."
No, the flood is not obvious. It is exactly not obvious. The evidence is non existent for it and the evidence against it is plentiful. I will insist on evidence, not preconception forcing the evidence to be shoe horned into a nonsense claim.
"When the torture starts, it never ends."
Do you have any idea how appalling that is both as a theological statement as it is a conversational argument? It's not a valid assertion and it is pretty disgusting.
Are claiming God is like a violent husband? That He will torture non compliance and that love looks like pain inflicted for poor decisions and non compliance and even for "correction"?
That's a dreadful theology.
"The just shall live by Faith!"
The Lord changes my heart.
Not archeology,not historical accounts.
Not human reason.
Nothing could convince me that Jesus is Lord except for when I called on His Name at the time of terrible trouble...
"Whosoever calls on the Name of the Lord shall be Saved!"
That's what convinced me.
"I know my Redeemer Lives!"
Faith, believing in something without evidence.
God bless you.
@@jordanjoy9040 Ha ha Which one?
@@leeroyc4148 : I don't know my friend, but if I was a betting man...
I called his name in a dream when freddy crugger was killing everyone around me and the next thing I knew I was walking hand in hand with him outside of the school building . I can't accurately describe the love,piece and joy that radiated from his touch but it was like every cell in my body was jumping with the purest happiness I've ever felt . It was like his love ,piece and joy was shooting out of every hair on my body shooting out of my fingers and toes . It was the single greatest moment of my life.with all I just said it still doesn't describe what it's like to be in his presence. I was in third grade and still to this day at the age of 46 I still can't verbally tell this story without getting choked up. All praises and Glory to our lord and savior Jesus Christ of nazareth.
Kurt Wise is not a scientist. He may have qualifications on paper, but to
state "science should begin with scripture" and to keep checking that
what is found doesn't contradict the bible is not science. What if it does
contradict the bible? Would he lose that finding? He should be ashamed of
himself and his attitude must be an embarrassment to Harvard who awarded him his
PhD.
I wonder what you may find if you were to accept the challenge to try scripture and science for a study?
When he says this he is merely saying that in order to compare observations in nature with the biblical account, you need to know what the bible actually says.
I think you want so bad to ignore him that you resort to unintelligent twisting of his words.
These guys have done an excellent job in laying out Earth's history..This thesis makes an lot more sense than the incoherent tale that's told in universities and schools..indeed in days of climate change and potential for global catastrophe none of which is ever envisioned in the standard text book dogma it's time we take an serious look at the flaws in the sciences or face the potential for disaster never even knowing what hit us never mind what should we do!!
Wrong. They have done an absolutely horrible job of "laying out Earth's history". What you learn in school (hopefully you went to a real school) is really what you want. When a "science" lecture begins with "Science should begin with Scripture", you're dead wrong. Period.
if incoherent tales of science are taught in schools how come we have got all this new technology , obviously someone in those incoherent universities are doing a good job ........
@@bigboreracing356
Paranoid nonsense.
Science is coherent if you can be bothered learning.
When I was a printer (decades ago) the trade was incoherent to outsiders. Measurements like "Ems" and "Ens" and picas made it incomprehensible- until you learned it.
Science has no political agenda.
Science is taught because it should be taught.
Creationism should not be taught because it is garbage.
@@bigboreracing356
More paranoid nonsense.
Do you ever actually think things through or do you always assume disagreement is about others trying to control you? (ie: paranoia)
@@bigboreracing356
This is text with no para-verbals mate. If that was supposed to be sarcasm, it was certainly missed.
Apologies if that is the case.
But sad to say, the Poe effect operates with creationists. They are often indistinguishable from parody.
How did kangaroos get from turkey to Australia after the flood?
Ups. First class mail.
@@juriaan13 lol... and sloths...
Now don't spoil their fun!
@@peterleadley7103 they don’t have fun.
Noah Uber
Thanks. Too Del Tackett and Dr. Wise for this well produced video on this topic, which to me is very important to prove that we were all created and didn't arrive here by evolution. Thanks Again 😊
So you are a clueless American with a childish stubborn opinion, great
"Science should start with scripture" roughly translates to " science should start with something made up by people who had no understanding of science" good job guys.
When you believe the Scriptures, its not something made up by a bunch of people. It's written by God. So if you believe in God, the Scriptures should indeed be the first place to look. Science studies the laws of nature, but nature obeys the command of God. Laugh all you want to, but we will all meet our Creator one day. He only asks for people to believe.
Well, all of humanity that lived and thrived during "so called" flood would disagree with you.
Not to mention the insects, fish and birds. lol
How so?
Interestingly, most ancient civilizations all over the world all have a Flood mythos. As written history and almost any observable civilization wasn’t very prominent in 4000BC, it makes it a tricky topic to debate anything by looking at a history book. On the flip side, trusting a scientist using demonstratively inaccurate testing like carbon 14 dating isn’t super trustworthy either. Some things are just lost to antiquity.
Pseudoscience, not science.
There is no Science , here ! Only, big rocks, small rocks, floating forests, more rocks, more floating objects, strange hollow trees, etc ...
If you did a core sample of Spirit Lake near Mt. St. Helens, you would find a biostratigraphic column example that perfectly resembles the "evolutionary" column, which refutes the idea of evolution, as opposed to catastrophic-flood sediment, completely.
Are there fossils found at mt helens, and are they ordered in separate strata from simpler life forms to more complex?
@@gjorgin yes
@@nathanwofford2996 could you please proide me a link, or video? I couldnt find anywhere...
@@gjorgin No, I'm sorry I can't, and yes, I know this sounds like a cop out. It's been years since I went down this rabbit hole. The evidence is out there. I probably should have just left it alone and moved on, but I've got a little OCD and I could not, not respond to you. I wish you all the best. Peace.
@@gjorgin Even if we see something at Mt. St. Helens similar to what we see all over the earth in the strata, what you described is not what is found all over the earth. Extremely complex life throughout every strata, just different ecosystems being taken out over multiple mega sequences of the flood. Every strata is full of fossilized ocean life, indicating a watery catastrophe. Lots and lots more evidence billions of dead things were catastrophically buried and laid down by water in many layers at the same time all over the earth.
If you begin with scripture you'll never even come close to science. It's beyond me how any one can juggle with this cognitive dissonance all their lives.
Amazing! I never knew how difficult it was to become a fossil this really helps my faith!
It shouldn't. this video denies scholarship, so completely loses credibility
@@peterleadley7103 Because scholarship is indoctrination. Sorry to break it to you but yes, indeed your entire school life is a lie when it comes to origins science.
@@peterleadley7103 scholarship? All of your science is a theory just like ours loooooool
@@peterleadley7103 science only becomes credible and factual when it's observable. Can't none of this be observed, so all we got is theories.
@@peterleadley7103
Muh schoolars
Muh human authority
A brilliant representation of regressive logical reasoning. Well done.
Science always begins with observation. Beginning with scripture is putting the cart before the horse.
@Joshua Simmons Care to expand on that? The methods by which humans have investigated the natural world have changed over time, and I think it'd be accurate to say that religious scholars led to the creation of science. However, I think it's quite inaccurate to say that, therefore, we should presume that scripture is correct before we have investigated the matter.
@Joshua Simmons The idea that the universe had order to it originated long before people started reading the bible. But it is certainly true that enlightenment thinkers of the 18th century largely believed in a diestic "natural law". Out of curiosity, have you ever looked into the "Jefferson Bible"?
Regardless, assuming that the universe is rationally intelligible and is governed by laws from a Law Giver, is incorrect. Any scientists who do so, whether inspired by scripture or not, are making mistakes.
@Joshua Simmons There is no observation that the universe is "governed" by laws given from a "Law Giver". If you have that observation, please share. Additionally, the conclusions drawn from Relativity (time dilation, length contraction, space-time curvature, etc.) as well as the astounding revelations of Quantum Mechanics are, at the very least, counter-intuitive. It seems the more we investigate the universe, the less rational it becomes.
I'd like to point out a potential contradiction you've made. You originally stated that these concepts "originated from the knowledge of a Law Giver through scripture". But then you state "it is not a mere assumption, it is an observation in nature." Is this actually a contradiction or am I misunderstanding?
I would advise anyone seeing this to take a geology course first or at least do some independent research and then come back to this. Never start with scripture it’s just preparing you conclusion before you see your evidence. Nothing about this is based on honest geology or palaeontology.
*pseudoscience*
@@sodaht2296 Hi. You're too kind. "Not even wrong" is how a physicist would describe this patently feeble attempt to make creationism appear scientific.
Why involve the Bible when doing science surely it's better to do the work concentrating solely on the topic while keeping spurious outside influences away from a scientific conclusion.
That's because they're not doing science. Creationists start with a belief in The Bible and cherry pick (or fabricate) whatever science they feel supports it and discard what they feel does not.
IF THE BIBLE ISNT TRUTH THEN WHY HAVE THEY FOUND - DUG UP GIANTS ALL OVER THE WORLD JUST LIKE THE BIBLE SAYS!!! WAKE UP AND GET INTO THE BIBLE AND THE DISCOVERIES WHICH IS THE TRUTH THATS BEEN HIDDEN FROM US BY OUR OWN GOVERNMENT! DO YOUR RESEARCH!!! IT WILL BLOW YOUR MIND! WHY DO YU THINK SO MANY ATHIESTS/SCIENTISTS TURN TO CHRISTIANITY!?? BECAUSE THE EVIDENCE SHOWS - PROVES THAT THE BIBLE IS REAL AND WITHOUTA CREATOR NOTHING AND NOONE CAN EVEN EXIST!!!
@@Melanie-ro6pl Don't be silly, smh.
Thanks Dr. Kurt. I am grateful for your clear explanations, and I enjoy many of the comments.
@@jamesginty6684
Hi, thanks for your advice, but no I haven’t been diligently researching much, except to try to get familiar with my Bible and study what the original Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek really mean. It is fun to watch Dr. Kurt’s take on Biblical events.
Creationists are very good at "explaining" Genesis,chapters 6,7,8 ,&9, but have completely ignored the "In the beginning" creation of Genesis,chapter 1. Also they offer no explanation of Noah's or acknowledgement of his "bad behavior" after he got off the ark, as recorded in chapter 9. Also there is no explanation of who were the wives of the post-flood generation, the 16 sons of Shem, Ham and Japheth, Noah's grandsons, who were to repopulate the post-flood world and "overspread the earth" by which the nations were divided in the earth 🌎 after the flood. So in effect the only difference in the Evolutionists and the Creationists is how they work time into their theories. Evolutionists need millions of years to make their senseless teachings plausible, whereas the Creationists, in keeping with their interpretation of the Genesis account, need only 6,000 years to "prove" their presentations. The Flood gives the Creation geologists their one isolated "causal catastrophic event", of short historical duration, 13 months or so, to which they can devote a career to "scientifically" explain its earthly effects. And since th term "dinosaur 🦖🦕" was coined in the 19th century,they have created a pedantically biased field of study. They are in most cases pseudo-Bible students who only use Scripture to lend a thread of credence to their otherwise secular, purely scientific postulations. Nevertheless, We Love and forgive All people everywhere!
Hi, Wayne Sumner, yes love and forgiveness, thank you for your reply. I find there is a mind-boggling amount of information about all these things (which is great fun!). I feel an urgency to know the Gospel of Jesus in its entirety, which in itself is fascinating and keeps expanding its parameters, as I continue to connect the dots in the Old and New Testaments. I have been hearing teaching lately (i.e. “Fasting Brings Restoration, Living as Salt and Light, Parts 1 and 2 by Derek Prince), that the faithful have a responsibility to petition for change (fast and pray) before our country(ies) and people stumble past the point of no return. It’s all amazing, so I wish everyone could feel the same way.
@@waynesumner1829, Why is evolution over millions of years senseless? There is a massive amount of evidence to support it. The creationist alternative is super hyper evolution happening in a few years when they got off the ark and zero evidence for anything in the biblical story.
Sorry my friend. It's called scripture for a reason and not scientific fact. The global flood never occurred and the fossil record disproves the flood, it doesn't prove it.
Proves it tho🤷🏽♂️💯 :/
@@Patel-Chirag-Gupta the only person who can say that seriously is someone indoctrinated into their religion from childhood and refuses to accept the logical and genetic impossibility of that story. And that it's disputed by every fossil ever found.
So he is saying there is only evidence of one flood in the whole geological record. He needs to take of those noah tinted spectacles .
1 global flood. You missed that bit Out because it didn’t fit your narrative.
And did he give a date for his one global imaginary flood. He basically contradicts himself repeatedly through out this whole shambolic fantasy!
Noah's contemporaries didn't believe him either,and mocked him until it was too late for them to take notice.
The deluge was a warning example for us today. There will be mockers who will not listen... As long as we warn others, we are fulfilling our commission as Christians.
Luke 17:26,27
2 Peter 3:3,5,6
While listening to Dr. Kurt’s presentation with my Bose headphones, I can only hear Brett Baier’s voice from FOX News speak of fossilized species and such and it’s messing with me because this subject is not his wheelhouse. ThankYou, for sharing this information here on TH-cam. Regarding dinosaur bones and fossils, have mass human boneyards been discovered similar to the dinosaur boneyard discovered out west in North America?
No human fossils from pre flood. We wouldn't expect them either because they would go to high ground and remain at the surface of the ocean for some time, avoiding burial, even after death when that would be eaten by other creatures, or if buried at all, the sediments would be eroded and deposited in the bottoms of the oceans after the flood. One way or the other, we wouldn't expect to find any
This has been a personal. theory of mine for many years. Nice to have it explained scientifically. Thanks for the excellent video.
He explained a lot, really interesting! 👍
Unfortunatly there wasn't any science included, just mimicked.
@@kai_plays_khomus
Did you actually _expect_ any science?
@@philaypeephilippotter6532
Totally not. I watched just for amusement. Unfortunatly it seems to be different with the poster of the initial comment - and he fell victim to the manipulation tactics of pseudoscience - he seems convinced now that the video was somehow scientific.
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@@JB-yb4wn 🤣👍
@@kai_plays_khomus ..... how is there no science, it’s all scientific evidence.
This is evidence from palaeontology and geological studies.
You trying to state that it’s not science is showing you to be a bit of a numpty.
This presentation is an outstanding analysis of the evidence using knowledge of nature, natural science, mater, and it's motion through space and time. By using physics and a clear understanding of natural processes like decay, Dr. Wise establishes a compelling theory. It is very encouraging to see this paradigm shift in scientific thought.
Wrong!
@@chrism3845 Elaborate!
@@jmogames724
Lol still waiting.
Sarcastic name-calling is the first sign of an insecure mind. It reveals their emotional response to the threat of being wrong. The person using this tactic thinks they can shame their target into silence because they don't want to objectively consider the argument. Cognitive dissonance is the root cause of the name-callers distress. They know the contradicting view has merit, but they can't face it. Those secure in their beliefs do not engage in minimizing others.
Amen Paul the beginning of wisdom is fear of the lord. Good job revealing there motives according to there reactions.
You should do a video about how chimneys are proof of Santa Claus.
I love watching these mental gymnastics, it's incredible. I almost spit tea when he said it would be odd if dinosaurs walked with their tails off the ground, so their footprints must have been formed underwater, and then immediately followed with a picture of a dinosaur clearly holding it's tail above ground due it's anatomy
Logical Atheist yes evolution pseudoscience is a great source of comedy
And your source for such an emphatic jest is ???
That's right... You don't have any examples of reptiles that don't drag their tails!
Just another typical evolutionist attempt to argue with an arbitrary rebuttal.
Had you actually listened, he had other reasons too and he never said he knew that's what happened.
If you're going to be snide, take a look in the mirror.
No one makes more ridiculously unscientific claims than evolutionists! Nobody! And you guys are absurdly compelled to presume to know these ridiculous claims are historical facts!
You should be ashamed and appalled! Just not at this guy!
Like I said, spin a mirror around and take a long hard look!
Because evolution is a huge bowl of foolish absurdities that have nothing to do with the reality of biological engineered systems!
If no one ever used the word evolution in biology again not one thing about actual biology would ever be negatively affected! No student would ever be deprived of a single fact of known biology and they would actually start learning new things about biological systems, because they're not wasting untold hours of class time digesting the historical belief system of secularists!
Put that in your pipe and smoke it!
@@lederereddy I never told you what I believed, you're just jumping to conclusions - which, judging from your response, I assume you do a lot. Had you actually read my post like a person, you'd see that I was referring to specific examples used IN THE VIDEO that run counter to the video's CLAIMS. To humor you, my example would be this video's own depiction of a dinosaur, in this particular case. Not that it matters - you're arguing with yourself
@@gregburdell5159
I got that, Greg! My point was that you jumped to conclusions because he couched those data points in terms that made your jest moot.
But yes, I do assume you're an evolutionist because no one else is as petty or careless about what they post on theistic videos.
Was I wrong?
The state stone of Michigan is the Petoskey Stone, 43 north and above. It is a fossilized coral.
Thats because their was a huge inland see their millions of years ago ,later in the ice age it froze , the world began to warm again , and the ice which held back that inland sea broke it spilled into the Atlantic sea levels rose and their was a huge flood which created the mediterrean sea , and also the united kingdom got cut off from mainland Europe .. what noah was referring to was this flood , it happened before his time he was recounting a story from then a full 8,000 years or so prior to Christ being born
@@bonysminiatures3123 Noah wasn't referring to a flood before his time because he wasn't the one that told the story to begin with. He was just the main character that survived the flood in the story which was written by Moses. Now if u want to argue that Moses retold the Sumerian flood story then that's a whole 'nother argument. But it wasn't Noah referring to a flood before his time
@@bonysminiatures3123mediterranean sea was filled millions of years ago.. no humans where around then...
As the earth isn't so old as we were taught, then Jesus' return is also nearer.
Every animal on earth, a pair of them, fit on a boat,
with food, water, and waste removal being part of the scenario.
You couldn’t even find all of them, never mind fit them on an arc.
0:10 "Science should begin with Scripture"
Then it's not science, sorry. I thought it was evidence it should begin with. My bad...
You see, that's the apologist's problem, he starts from the conclusion and works his way back. Like a Soviet show trial.
Science can but not always builds off truth. As Christians we take scripture as truth.
@@grant3hanson I know, some Christian pastor said (forgot his name, sorry) that if the Bible said 2+2=5 then he'd choose to believe in the Bible.
You literally can't argue with that kind of person.
I don't see blind faith as a virtue.
@@igorjee Christianity is an eyewitness verifiable faith. If everything in nature points to a creator and a global flood is it wrong?
@@igorjee “For this they willfully forget: that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of water and in the water, by which the world that then existed perished, being flooded with water. But the heavens and the earth which are now preserved by the same word, are reserved for fire until the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.”
II Peter 3:5-7 NKJV
@@igorjee well in imaginairy numbers J^2 is -1. Yeah strange right cause it shouldnt be, yet it is. Sometimes things are what we cant yet understand, but that wr dont understand it yet doesnt mean they arent so
In my youth (a very long time ago) I had a passion for Geology and Paleontology.
I was fasinated with your simplified geo time chart. In my non Christian mind back then, you've just covered in a few inches 4.5 billion years.
I remember collecting fossils in the middle of a London woodland.
I charted the area and found amazing shells, shark & ray teeth. Bones from turtles and crocks. They didn't even look fossilized.
In fact I still have a lot of this collection found in London Beds.
I also enjoyed a place called Lyme Regis. Sedimentary rocks of different kinds going down thousands of feet. These plains follow patterns i.e. land animals then sea creatures, then land, sea, land sea etc. And in each bedding plain you'll find completely different species.
The coal tips were a great place to collect plant fossils. Mines hundreds of feet deep with tropical palms trees turned into carbon rocks. Fascinating.
Today I am wiser. I certainly don't believe in evolution. I was anti Darwin in college.
In the field, I saw no evidence of evolution.
What I did see though is vast periods of time.
Its one area I have problems with scriptually. Our Lord is everlasting. Time is not an issue for our Lord whom has no beginning or end.
Humans have a tendency to fragment time. One day well understand what "forever" means.
You are also anti science.
Why do you see deep time in the fossil record? Much of it is stunningly well preserved, you could say flash preserved, and tissue residuals have been found inside bones. Vast imaginary eons is only somewhat supported by radio dating of rocks, but the core assumptions can't possibly be verified
I am in my 8th decade. I have a degree in government and law. Liberal arts. I have spent almost all my free time since the Internet made it possible to study the bible, paleontology and biblical archeology. You premises and conconclusions don't hold up. If you throw out the scientific conclusions that are the best theories yet(they change with new finds) because it is a totally flawed process, you can't logically use parts of those finds and we'll argued ideas to prove your point. Selective bias is fine. But you don't make an argument. You find bits to back a predetermined end. My love of Christ and God knows no bounds. Your petty concentration on things that don't speak to love shows me you don't understand the word. You just want to be right and make the rules black and white so that love doesn't become the value that rules. Why do you think the saviour spoke in parables? Why do you think he didn't put God's law in writing by his own hand? I pray for you to consider why you are spending so much time on things my Saviour never even cared to comment on.
Tim Cross Well argued, sir! I have lost my own faith in the supernatural, but not my respect for folk like you. I hope you don't mind if I call you a welcome exception to the silent majority of believers whose inactivity gives tacit support to the loony literalists like Kurt Wise. Thank you.
@@alanthompson8515 , thank you! Consider that radio, TV, space craft, invisible band width lasers, and atomic bombs would be considered super natural in my grandfather's time. There will always be more for us to know. More in faith, more in science, more in our very nature and how and why we are here.
@@timcross2510 You're welcome, Tim. BTW have you ever come across Arthur C Clarke's Third Law? "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic".
@@alanthompson8515 ,remember reading that in the seventies. Check out his novel about a vessel sent from an advanced civilization empty. Then see how it's source outside our solar system matches the size and shape of Oumuamua.
@@alanthompson8515 , just remembered the title, Roundevous with Rama.
I have several rocks in the f;ower bed in my front yard that are embedded with tiny sea shells ,I found these rocks at about 3000 feet above sea level on the top of the mountain beside my house.they was embedded in a red stone outcrop of rock on the tip of a mountain ridge when you look at the rock cliff ,you can tell at one time it was layers of mud .its only about 70 feet below the crest of the mountain top ,but I have found rocks laying right on the top of the ground that have seashells in them.
Let us know when you find a single modern species (in situ) in that red stone, alright bubs?
My dad went to Central Australia years ago and found a mud encrusted seashell while gold digging, which I begged to have.
He gave it to me and I said "here is proof of a global flood-what is a large seashell,encrusted in dried mud,doing in the middle of a dry continent as big as Australia?"
He was gobsmacked, he was a Militant Communist. It took the wind out of his sails, as he had persecuted me terribly, since I had told him I believed in God at 27yo. He was never the same, as he had found it, and not even realised its significance.
He saw it with his own eyes and had just realised that maybe,he had been wrong!
He stopped talking about Communistic Atheism after that...
Where are the human fossils from the flood ?
The human bodies were more scattered, they did't die together, they try to escape climb in tries, buildings, and hills, if they had a chance
How can you claim to accept Genesis to prove the flood and then talk about 'the transition of species' when Genesis clearly states that animals were created according to their 'kind'? This leaves no room for transition. Jehovah's creation is perfect so transition is not only a theory but impossible!
@@smoraptor of course. And you are correct. But adaptation is very different than transition. Darwin's fruit flies adapted to their environment and surroundings as did the finches but they remained fruit flies and finches. They remained in their 'kind' and never transitioned into another species.
How do people still hang on to Darwinism? It took most of his life time on a theory he doubted himself, But we can learn more in one day that would take his entire life time to learn was false. and we with all this knowledge really don't know yet. but the truth is in Gods Word with more to discover.
he doubted himself because he didnt know anything about genetics because that branch of science didnt exist yet and fossil record then was scarce
it was 200 years ago and there is a lot more we know than 200 years ago
thats why its not called "darwinism"
its called "evolution through natural selection".
Lololol. How do these people still exist...
Fantastic stuff, I've been intrigued by the floating forest hypothesis since I first encountered it (I love woods, swamps, mangroves and reefs, putting them all together is my dream biome!) Something I'd like to incorporate into my worldbuilding as an aspiring writer.
One thing I'd like to point out though, dinosaurs almost certainly didn't drag their tails unlike living reptiles. It's counterproductive to their gait, size and proportions. Almost all dinosaurs had their spines aligned in a horizontal manner, so theropods were bipedal so needed them to counterbalance everything before their hips, sauropods there necks and hadrosaurs to counter balance the weight of their foreparts. Stegosaurs and ankylosaurs had clubs and thagomizers on them so dragging them would have just led to catching their weapons in the underbrush and ceratopsians had relatively small tails for the most part anyway. It's not a big deal though, scientists each have their own particular field of expertise, and geology isn't the same as biomechanics of an animals musculoskeletal structure so no worries.
Perhaps DIY AIRCRETE....
and DIY SODIUM SILICATE
might help your biome project ?
Also... WISNERS ROCKET MASS HEATER.
My uncle is a geologist who worked in the petroleum industry throughout his career. During my higher education I had a great interest in paleontology and remember two separate conversations I had in short order. The first was with a biology professor at the university I attended and then a related conversation with my uncle. At the time of these conversations I had no interest in a flood narrative and was fully accepting of the standard explanations about the fossil record and its confirming of ages and long periods of time. Out of nothing more than curiosity I asked my professor a very simple question about the dating of strata and how these demarcations and assignments of time are determined by paleontologist. In part his answer was that paleontologist, to some degree, depend on the discipline of geology to determine the relative age of any particular strata level.
Upon a visit from my uncle a short time later I asked him how such determinations are made by geologist. Part of his answer was that geologist will determine ages based on the fossils present in any particular strata and the study of paleontology.
Even at the time I found this rather odd. When it comes to dating strata, the Paleontologist will defer to the geologist and the geologist will defer to the paleontologist.
its because its two different studies
@@snapperjessen Well, yes. My point was simply that each of the disciplines relied on the other to answer the same question.... sort of like parents telling a kid, "Go ask your Father." Only to have dad say, "Go ask your Mother."
@@rougebaba3887 not a good analogy.
its more like a mason building a house but leaves the plumbing to the plumber
@@snapperjessen It's nothing at all like that. Lets stick with the tradesman idea... it be like an electrician and a plumber both telling a laborer where to dig a hole. And when he asks why the hole must go there, the plumber says the electrician figured it out and the plumber says the same thing about the electrician.
If i ask both a paleontologist and an geologist how they determine the age of a particular layer of strata, I will get no closer to a real answer if they both claim the information came from the other. This is not that hard.
Why do creationist theories all sound like something out of Monty Python.
"Yes! Of course! coconuts were carried by swallows grasping them by the husk!"
"Animals crossed the seas on floating log mats! Yeah that the ticket!"
Actually, animals have crossed oceans on logs and mats of floating weed. Been dome many times, and recorded by ACTUAL scientists.
The Egyptian priest said: "Solon, the memorials which your own and other nations have once had of the famous actions of mankind perish in the waters at certain periods; and the rude survivors in the mountains begin again, knowing nothing of the world before the flood. But in Egypt the traditions of our own and other lands are by us registered for ever in our temples. The genealogies which you have recited to us out of your own annals, Solon, are a mere children's story. For in the first place, you remember one deluge only, and there were many of them, and you know nothing of that fairest and noblest race of which you are a seed or remnant. The memory of them was lost, because there was no written voice among you." -Plato, Timaeus
and you know nothing of that fairest and noblest race of which you are a seed or remnant. The memory of them was lost, because there was no written voice among you. For in the times before the great flood Athens was the greatest and best of cities and did the noblest deeds and had the best constitution of any under the face of heaven. Solon marvelled, and desired to be informed of the particulars. 'You are welcome to hear them,' said the priest, 'both for your own sake and for that of the city, and above all for the sake of the Goddess who is the common foundress of both our cities. Nine thousand years have elapsed since she founded yours, and eight thousand since she founded ours, as our annals record.
Quote mine Plato, much...
Except there was no flood. There was no global extinction event in the last 50,000+ years. None. The most recent such event was 65Million years ago. The flood story in genesis, using your numbers, happened around 6,000 years ago. Problem is that other cultures existed then. China, Sumeria, Egypt, all existed and all did not die off. They showed no interruption at all. Localized floods occured, they still occur, but not global floods any time in human history (which goes back much farther than 6,000 years).
No it wasn't that old. Don't be atheist goddammit
There was a flood and God is real . Miserable life. Just don't be atheist simplee.
Sorry, the geological record formed amazing landforms, such as the series of Ice Age floods in eastern Washington over thousands of years. The geology of lava floods and volcanic eruptions in the Pacific Northwest, including the Yellowstone Supervolcano, show millions of years of development, but not a Noah type flood covering those states. Noah's flood was real, but it was in a limited region just as the story of the Old Testament from Exodus to Revelation is in a limited region. Genesis does not claim to describe a world wide flood. Noah did not claim that he preached in New Zealand or Norway. And he travelled for a year by sea from his home to the Middle East.
There were no Dinosaurs during human existence. Otherwise instead of painting Zebras on cave walls they would have been painting giant Lizards. And the Bible would have talked of them for sure.
There are several* pictographs that *look* like dinosaurs though.
*Several isn't much but it isn't nothing
Creationist gaslighter, they always pick and discard what they can't explain.
Pseudoscience unfortunately all scientists in the world disagree with this man
Where's all the body's of the humans remains after flood??
I find that hard to believe there is no way that Noah’s so-called flood could’ve done this I will not except the idea that the Bible literature is history
When looking at science you have to start with scripture? This man is a fool, and a deceiver.
If the Holy Bible is true, then you do need to start with scripture before looking at science.
@Larry Cavalli if the Holy Bible is true, then he has context for everything.
I love how you insist that science somehow should begin with scripture rather than vice versa..... wonder why that is? Oh that's right - because what you are actually doing is NOT science.
No, it's because science should be used to better understand God's creation.
@@aidanlarson5394 Yes - YES it SHOULD.... accept science and then attempt to seek out your "god"... don't assume "god" and THEN seek out the science to prove it.... pretty simple really....
@@newellgster We do not assume God first, we see plenty of evidence for him. But science has always been used to better understand God's creation. I'm not saying specific scientific concepts should be left out and only cherry pick the ones which show evidence for God. I'm saying that, because all is created by God, science is inherently used to better our understanding of said creation. We should take each concept, and see where it fits in the expansive puzzle that is the Christian truth. Most if not All objective and true scientific concepts are able to fit somewhere in the eternal story that is God's creation.
@@aidanlarson5394 No - you INTERPRET too many things as "evidence". You need to update your definition of the term "evidence" because obviously you think that anything someone believes somehow qualifies as such. It isn't. True evidence can be questioned, tested, and confirmed. You, like most believers, confuse faith with evidence.... they are NOT the same. Your entire argument, like most apologists, begins with an assumption of God's existence and then starts talking about the supporting evidence.... science doesn't work that way - sorry.
@Timbo Slice Yeah isn't that weird (untrue of course but weird). Those self-fulfilling prophecies - so amazing. Seriously Timbo - the Bible is a book of metaphors and stories taken from a variety of myths and religions of the time. It is fantasy and to use it as the basis for any "scientific" work is ridiculous. It is also filled with contradictions and errors but you'll ignore those right? Why? Because of your faith not because it validates anything. Again, your faith is NOT science and no matter how hard you folks try to twist it to be it will fail horribly.
At 14:00 I think as well, the climate sedimentary coverage, put a tremendous amount of material in the water so that small things that would be decomposers were also having trouble surviving just as larger creatures were dying. One of the impacts you and others like yourself have made on me is the contemplation of the immensity of the catastrophe of the flood. When God says he will, "blot out" He meant it.
no flood
"1min 20':
"we got to make sure that what we are postulating about fossils is consistent with the biblical account"
This means: Only accepting theories [and observations] which are in line with the flood theory.
Oh dear, I don't know which kind of PhD he got, but if it is in science his title should be withdrawn.
God created him one, end of
There's never been a world wide flood, there isn't enough water on this planet for that to happen.
You are on another level..
@Michael Fritsche The evidence points to the contrary.
if the flood was due to a large metor a roming flood would accure mening the high waters being miles and miles long and hige would floow in one direction then leving areas behind without water being heated by the sun from a riped ozone layer hardaning fast with the life that was bared in the mud fasalized in it look at a inpact zone at the westen side of africa that then has a falling trale thowe the caribean as it slowed and was samurged in to the malten core caseing the land mass abouve to fall it came in from the north east burning plant life thowe chila rusa than got closer to planet and burned wider path thowe uper africa and medataranein than plunged right off cost line this would have created a masseve romeing flood and the fasels and corel to be moved this is how god flood the planent and why it rained for so long from the amont of evaperated water and the tare in ozon caseing sastand moster to evapert agine then the roming flood comeing around and around till it disapated the distruction of numberus ancent structers also would be from same event
@Michael Fritsche i can see why you strugle with proof of god on any words that bring prof to his exsistence you obvesly understood my word but was not a kind enough person to see past the puncaation and errore isn speeling to see truth on the words
@Michael Fritsche and same to you sir you are on a video about proff of a biblical flood and creataon saying your belifes or i should say disbeleifs that is why it is called faith and if ther isent a god or is the grateest truth told in all religons is that to be human and a member of humanty carys a bemurden and that burden is to love care for all humanaty and that all truth will be learnt eventualy for truth is unaversal
Your story book didn't mention fossils due to the fact that it was not understood at that time.
Fascinating. Also explains where ancient tales of floating islands could have originated. Realities remembered by the humans who survived the great flood and told to children or recited around a fire to remember what no longer existed.
The incestuous spawn of eight people from 4000 odd years ago ? You have a fanciful imagination. Just need to get honest about what is credible. The global flood isn't.
this makes more since then the 12 years ive learned in grade school, middle school, and high school, i was confused but this video cleared it all up and i thank you, God Bless
Spoiler alert: there is no evidence of Noah's flood. The Ark itself simply was *not* sea-worthy at all (this has been proven several times by scale-model tests). The flood NEVER happened....check out Aron Ra's video series on how the flood simply wasn't possible. Search for "Aron Ra disproves the Noah's Ark story" here on TH-cam...
Repent and believe the Gospel and turn from your sin! He is faithful and just to forgive us!
If ancient people could build the pyramids Noah could have in fact hired an entire town to help him build the ark. “Kinds” are not the same as species so the biblical account suggests a smaller amount of animals to be transported . Also many of the animals brought on board would have most likely have been juveniles in order to take up less space.
I’m gonna save you guys some time here: genesis is history the way the cartoon channel is National Geographic when Wild E Coyote is attempting to catch the road runner.
@Jason Adams I need to believe to post? I didnt say you needed my permission to believe nonsense but you think I need your permission to post?
Not really well acquainted with irony, huh?
I believe that the Cambrian Explosion looks more like an extinction event than proof of an explosion of new life. The principles of entropy would lend itself to an ecosystem that does begin with a vast diversity of life that steadily reduces over time with the occational mass extinction. I'm not stating this as fact but rather my opinion and an opportunity for discussion. Feel free to disagree and tell me why. God Bless.
The cabrian explosion happened over several million years as creatures began dibersifying into different niches. There was an extinction event yes, but life resists entropy for its abilty to seek out energy sources as well as discarding genetic traits become detrimental to survival.
That’s not even close to proof!
Yeah. There's no way. Fossils take a long long time to form. Not 2k years people.! 👌
There are fossils of hard hats found in mines. You telling me that hard hat is 10,000 plus years old?
@@wesmurphy9725 Permineralization is the term you are looking for in that case. 👌 There are different types of Fossilozation. Also you have to specify what type of a hard hat. In the beginning hard hats were made of leather. They were actually made of organic material. Animal skin. In some cases the material can become rapidly fossilized based on the material and the sediments where they get buried. There are a lot of different factors when it comes to fossilization. There are also many different ways to date the fossils based on carbon dating and geographical sediment layers. The proposition that all the fossils that you see came from the biblical Noah's flood is absolutely ridiculous. There is no scientific evidence that would suggest that the planet was covered in water 2,000 years ago. Stop reading the Bible and pick up a scientific journal.
@@Allworldsk1 The bible claims Jesus lived around 2,000 years ago. The flood on the other hand was much earlier and could have occured anywhere from around 6,000 to 13,000 years ago.
@@Rabbit_Person exactly. Doesn't fit. 👌🏻👌🏻
Praise GOD great presentation
Where are the humans buried next to the dionsaurs in the flood . Why is there a separation between humans and dionsaurs in the record . I just want to know
If this was true you would find extant species with the dinosaurs.
we do
@@yuron8210
You sir are a liar. Shame on you.
@@yuron8210 Bearing false witness is breaking one of God's Holy commandments.
@@theTavis01 You don't even care about God. You suck and you're lame.
@@yuron8210 That's a good trick! Mind reading, I mean. Go on. Try it out on me too.
I would love to see you discuss this with John Lennox.
I have great respect for Dr. Lennox, and have watched his videos and read one of his books. His area of expertise, however, is math. True, he does a lot of generalized debating versus atheists, but does not really do a deep dive into paleontology, which is Dr. Wise's area of expertise. I appreciate the unique contributions of both men!
@@obsoletevalues6209 So do I. That's why I want to lock them in the same room and film the talk. I think it would be great.
Kurt Wise was raised in a fundamentalist Baptist family in rural Illinois and accepted flood geology as a teenager while attending a conference for Christian youth run by Bob Jones University.
You left out Harvard University. Any particular reason? Like, do you have an agenda to try to falsely represent someone's academic record by omitting their most relevant academic accomplishment?
Your attempt at fraud actually fits in quite well with the epidemic of fraud in science over the last several decades. According to the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (one of the most prestigious science journals in the world), fraud being committed by modern scientists over the last several decades has not just DOUBLED (although that alone would be extremely disturbing)! Nor has science fraud only TRIPLED, nor even QUADRUPLED!
The level of fraud being committed by scientists today has skyrocketed by OVER ONE-THOUSAND PERCENT!
Bildad1976
Maybe it has something to do with creatards who get legitimate degrees and then try to justify their ridiculous religious beliefs.🤔
Rami Gilneas more accurately it's indoctrinated morons like you who ignore ubiquitous evidence of recent, flash preservation of billions of dead creatures, with more tissue residuals in bone found all time, that cannot be "millions of years" old. Not just unlikely, impossible. True science (not your dogma) is not static. The amazing irony is YOU are the religious zealot, but your faith in "experts" who weren't there and don't have the slightest clue ends in your demise. Life is short
1:07:30 This guy sounds like he's gone mad
I often wonder why these things are not brought up front in church. I am no pastor by no definition, but I find it curious why you have to go to you tube for this ministry. The evolution theory has free reign in society to prosper with minimal rebuke because we are not being taught this to stand against evolution theory with these tools.
Dr. Jason Lyle made a remarkable presentation at the Calvary Chapel in Chester Springs, where the Bible is taught verse by verse.
Dr. Wise, thank you for this very methodical explanation!
Trained 10 years at the Elmer Fudd Institute of Paleoloonacy. Lol. 😬
That’s what I think of the secularists version, totally made up by so called scientists, without proof, non of them were there, but we follow an ancient manuscript that has been proven correct on numerous occasions, good luck with your delusion of truth.
@@johnclonch9344 Apparently you're a graduate of EFIP. Got a good laugh with 'your delusion of the truth.' You YECs are a hoot.
I don’t know anything about it, but this videos seems to have very consistent scientific information from decades ago, so why do we still have the mainstream theory in our schools?
Because it's not a mainstream theory, i heard i a lot of theories like this one but they are not mainstream or valid.
When you start with scripture as a basis for your science, it's not science. The bible is allegory, a picture of a small group of a peoples world view. Time to live in the present.
When you start with scientifically impossible theories as the basis for your science, it’s not science, it’s pseudoscience! Spontaneous generation and abiogenesis are scientifically impossible! Matter cannot be created or destroyed, so how was all of the matter of the universe created? The only choice is it was created by God! Evolution is an unscientific theory based on conjecture, proposed by a naturalist with no education in biology!
Big bang and evolution requires more faith, buddy. You just need to logically think about it ^^
I have often wondered what lunar tides would be like without coastlines to contain them. I hypothesized a large bulge of water traveling east to west following the gravitational pull of the moon. I wonder if something like that might explain the latitudinal displacement of colonies.
Once the fountains of the deep burst forth, on the day Noah entered the Ark.
Only the creatures with the breath of life in their nostrils survived with the family.
The enormous forces exerted on the earth were unimaginable.
The hydroplate theory makes sense of all the things found buried or even on mountain tops such as oyster in the closed position.
In this video Brian Nichol gives a great understanding of Walt Browns hydroplane theory.
th-cam.com/play/PLvTah6tEcChwZjUyG6X_5_zwVDAalSJHI.html
The hydroplate theory wouldn't leave a habitable planet. All that heat has to go somewhere, and the atmosphere is it. You're talking several thousand degrees kelvin over the entirety of the atmosphere during such an event.
@@Keairan3 true. But your discounting that water is a much greater conductor than air. Enough water to produce the oceans of today would have more than enough effect to keep the atmosphere from cooking.
No, no it would not. Hydroplate states that all small bodies, ie, kuiper belt objects, asteroids, comets and similar objects in the solar system. The asteroid belt alone is 2.39*10^21 kilograms alone. Escape velocity for earth is 11.2 km/s. The kinetic energy to get those objects out of earth's atmosphere is 1.5 * 10^29 joules. There's about 1.26*10^22 L of water on earth. Let's be generous and say that only half of that energy went into heating up all that water. The specific heat of water is 4184 j/(kg*C). Calculating all of this gives us a water temperature increase of 1421 Kelvin. And that's being generous. Being realistic, that temperature increase at minimum doubles, and that's not counting comets, kuiper objects or non asteroid belt small solar satellites. to increase our temperature gain further. The oceans boil, the skies turn into plasma, and not even extremophiles survive that type of devastation.
WTF was that!??! Science should begin with scripture??? ............hahahahahahahahahahaahahhhha.....................................................hahahahahahahahhhahahahhaaaaaahahahhaaaahaha!!!!!
Absolutely.
JESUS said it .the truth will set us free .the more you read the Bible the more you realize how accurate the bible is .
Actually it's quite the opposite for sane people. If you start to actually read it instead of cherry pick whatever fits the narrative you will find out that *nothing* adds up.
where are the fossils of the billions of people that died when the flood hit? No one has ever explained that
j parks their fossils are small and hard to find. However there is flood damage on Egypt’s pyramids and ruins of lost civilizations all over the world. China, Africa, North America, South America, Japan, Russia, India, etc.
@@randywolf4080 huh? what does that prove? that's not even related.
j parks much easier to find a city then small fossils.
This is another source than I had originally found.
The worst type of pseudo science....which is a polite way of saying...what a load of utter rubbish...
It's real science 🤬🤬🤬 God is real. I know you are not and atheist. I know.
It's the truth bro
@@GeovanniCastro666 Its strange isnt it...That 99% of scientists, the Anglican church,the Catholic Church etc all have no problem with evolution by natural selection..But according to you they are all wrong...
Sweet, a channel that doesn't have the comments disabled.
Indeed, but an awful lot of the people who comment seem to have their brains disabled.
@@philaypeephilippotter6532 Like this speaker. There was no flood.
@@johnh383
Though I was talking about those who've commented I do completely agree with you about the _great flood._
Well those would probably be liberal leftist because they dont want to hear the truth, they dont want it discussed and they dont believe in freedom of speech. Theyd rather silence everyone and listen to bill nye..🙄
It's nice to actually be able to have and read discussion's
How many versions of various "realities" on any number of subjects would exist if we didn't have peer review analysis on any claims I wonder...
I would like to remind people you can buy a fossilzed teddy bear in UK. I'd also like to enlighten folks on the hindu bell, ancient bowls, indian dolls and russain chariot wheels found inside coal seems dated to be millions of years old.
@Larry Cavalli
The _Petrifying Well_ in *Knaresborough, Yorkshire, UK,* known as *_Mother Shipton.s Well,_* has been a commercial venture _petrifying_ mementos since 1630.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_Shipton%27s_Cave
How about you just conclude reality?
Could the "floating forest" just be more debris from continents from before the flood? Since plants and animals both increase in order of "terrestriality". I think all you have to do is look at US southwest and you see evidence of flood.
Science does not start with the Bible. His creative claptrap is the usual stuff but the fact is the Noah world wide flood and Noah’s floating zoo never happened and could not have happened. This story attempt to use pseudoscience to justify it is pathetic
The Bible preceed the sciences n don't need to answer to it. Science is not and innovation but a discovery. Bible explain how n why some things happened. There's nothing in science that's new to the word of God. Read the Bible n learn for urself.
The problem with his lecture is it assumes the flood just came willy nilly out of no where just like that. Thats not how it happened. The animals had their tails up while running from an event. Across the land they ran, and some areas they crossed streams, others already wet places, could have been raining, but it wasn't a rising flood. The event was a massive asteroid bombardment of the earth. This is what they were running from.
The flood came as a result of the massive asteroid impacts most of which happened in north america and parts of south america. The 40 days of rain coincides with annual meteor showers which last typically 40 days.
The flood however was the result of meteor/asteroid impacts. The rain came after for 40 days. And this would have gone on for years until the volume of asteroids, meteors and comets were diminished. Still, today we still are hit with comets and meteors and asteroids. The earth took some massive hits. The gulf of mexico is an impact crater. The entire state of michigan is an impact crater and its debris fell all over north america and gave us the Carolina craters. 2 more giant impacts hit Greenland and each crater could fit an entire state into each one. And then there were hundreds if not thousands of medium sized objects that hit the earth and billions of smaller objects rained down on the earth. The entire north american continent was on fire. The ground shook violently and anyone alive would have been pelted to death with this debris. So complete that not a single inch of land remained untouched. Then the flood came. And it would have washed over the earth several times. The wave front would have been miles high. Then the rains.
What caused this shower to begin with was a distant giant sun went supernova. That supernova was very close and our solar system was hit with debris. The 5th planet in our solar system was completely destroyed. Both mars and earth were showered from this debris. Our solar system is still within the gas cloud of this supernova.
Furthermore, the previous society had technology. They were also space farers.
Unfortunately the christian religion has built its own version of events to the flood story along with scientists of varying belief systems. Nobody has a clue of the horror that took place and the hell that followed. Its indescribable. I dont think HaShem is to be messed with or tested. No one gets this, esp the christians.
Whats more, there were other survivors. History records them and their stories.