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Controversial New Player Build Guide Death Necro UO Outlands
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ส.ค. 2024
- Hey everyone,
Today I'd like to rile you all up and give you my personal take on what to play as a new player who wants to hit end game content asap. I know everyone likes to push peaceadin but I believe there is a faster, more effective, and more interactive way to reach end game farm status. Death Necro.
Credit to Lord Fack of NWO - OG Death Necro
Honestly wish I had found this video before going down the route of building a chiv/bard, backstabber and a dexxer tamer. After getting this build setup last night pre aspect it already feels soo much stronger than the other three early game.
Same boat
haha, I'm working on a new player guide right now and mine is backward logic to yours... I love this game because I think both of us make really good points and it's really up to the player the style of game they want to play. Great video Straw Hat!.
Hey Gray! I hear you haha. You are exactly right. I'm looking forward to your video soon! As Pwnstarr always says, "The more content out there about Outlands, the better." Lets keep em coming!
i have mixed feelings about this video. the advice itself is super great and its a huge kickstart to the server. otherwise its not the best idea to throw a newbie to SSC. and when you once seen how much drops there you can never go to another place, so you are stuck in SSC until another dungeon is released. :D
SSC is addictive. Hopefully we get level 4s in all the other dungeons soon! Ossuary 3 has been good lately. It might be fairly difficult for a newer player for sure.
There is better\equal drops outside of ssc, what really matters is how much dps and gph u are doing. I can go to any dungeon, almost any floor and make insane gph. Thats the cool thing about uo, you can basically play any build, and go anywhere you want with similar returns. I think if someone has no idea what they are doing and has never played uo this might be a challenge, and require some learning and other efforts before getting to ssc, but if you have at least some idea of what your doing, this is doeable.
i started out my first toon as a dungeon picker, between this and scavenger i think is a great way to learn the server, learn the dungeons, learn mob aggro mechanics and get money to get you started, funding builds etc, cheap to make and you never die. But these days im not so sure, so many pickers out there its hard to even find chests.
That being said, he's right, necro is definitely easier to play than a dexer. My bleed dexer chiv dude is like tier 10 aspect and i still have problems farming down level 3 in dungeons by myself. Compared to my necro who can go out and farm pretty much anywhere in the game and im like tier 6 eldritch/void aspects only.
Great to see you back!
Hey CGT, thank you! Good to be back.
Interesting, i might try the death build out :). I have been playing a necro\summoner builds for about a year (NoxNecro currently). I have soloed the emperor's madness miniboss in Forsaken Keep. There are about 10 mobs that spawn on a short timer in that room in addition to the boss so it is pretty challenging. I completely agree that starting with a summoner gets you to end game content significantly faster then a bard dexer\pure dexer. We have something in common, I started as a provo bard and it took weeks to get started, this is before the dungeon\mob rework, but it was very fun lol. Overall summoner builds with double mummy are extremely powerful even at newb levels and adding a significant amount of dmg on top of it over time makes any content doeable.
Exactly! All accurate and great points. Hope you enjoy it :)
Just started 5 days ago and finished my necro today! Found your vid looking for tips on how to play it, great tips all around!
Glad you were able to find some useful information here! Which kind of necro are you playing?
@@A-Straw-Hat As luck would have it I landed on the same spec you were recommending, so this came just as I finished up my skills!
From NEW! Guild. ive played a summoner/necro before got to tier 12 eldritch just not for me. Back to my bard dex i guess i seem to enjoy it the most. Great thing about UO is any build is possible and most importantly having fun and enjoying your time here.
I agree! That's exactly what makes UO so playable throughout he years. There are play styles for everyone. Get bored of one, try a new one.
Flash back to the days on Catskills. I was an Anti-PK Lumberjack that after a few weeks the PK's more or less made a deal with me. It was me, with max lumberjacking a few pots/aids. I'd show up at Despise as that's were they'd all gank the newbies. Got to a point where I'd just chunk away Pk's HP and they'd go running off. I did get a few kills but it wasn't that I was killing PK's left and right, I was just so much of a pain in the butt to them because I have VERY little on me and my trusty double sided axe (this thing at the time was clean when it hit and it hit LOTS).
So I did back off on them for a while, ended up making friends with Toft and a few others from the bAgOk tRiBe (something along those lines).
Dabbled in their trolly ways and learned how to fish for people....
Cast Moongate to the main banks, await some new player to randomly run into it (think this was before the "are you sure?" prompt). We'd have 6 others on the other side with Crop Por pre cast... they never had a chance.
Great to see this game still alive. Wish I had time to get back into it...
New expansion!! Time to get back to content creating!
The pressure is on haha
Nice, I already had this exact build but had no idea about the reflect aspect with mummies and was running lich + mummy. It's a game changer in SSC for sure.
It really is. I can't wait to play around with the reflect when level 4's come out. Another fun combo is double daemon set to ranged. If you select the 12 point talent that increases the damage by 75% over time it really adds up! If you want to take it to a whole other level, try adding Music/Discord to the build in place of Wrestle/Eval.
@@A-Straw-Hat does it make a difference if they are on ranged or can i keep them melee
@@Reaver... Vampires, ranged is better.
@@A-Straw-Hat alright thank you
welcome back!
Hi DB! Thanks, happy to be back.
Hello. First of all thank you. LOVE your videos. They have been very helpful.
I am returning to UO after 20 years as a previous 10 yr vet of Napa Valley. Still learning all the new stuff.
I am working on the Death Necro. Nearly gm in all the main skills. My question to you is this, will my lack of tracking or magic resist make me a sitting smuck (if I have herding) instead of either? Or will the spell damage bonuses & elementals give me a fighting chance 1v1?
Appreciate your advice on this.
Are you bothered by pks w this build much?
Thank you in advance for your time.
Welcome to Outlands! Im happy the videos have been helpful and I hope you are enjoying yourself here.
In regards to build, magic resist will help in a 1v1 scenario. If you don't plan to fight back it will help you run.
Tracking gives you a warning that there are reds/greys/enemies around and allows you to either hunt them down or avoid them.
What I find happens most often is I get jumped by more than 1 red. It's rarely a single red out there deep in dungeons but they are there every now and then.
Your elementals will not be much use in PvP. They will do a little damage regardless of herding/spirit speak. They are not to be relied upon for damage, rather, they are there to help soak PvM mob damage during the fight so you dont get clapped.
You could strategically pull mobs onto your elementals than target the red, then release your elementals. If you are quick enough you could have the mobs hitting your enemy for you!
I tend to not fight reds on my Discord/Death Necro. It has no eval, wrestle, or resist.
However, it really doesnt bother me much because the build doesnt lose much in the way of gold if it dies. I farm far more than I lose with it.
Is this build still relevant? I have a necro summoner death aspect 13 and also 120 poisoning, with poison aspect at 11. I had 120 herding back before I swapped it for poisoning. I grow weary of poison, though I have a lot invested in damage to poisoned creature links. I still have 60 herding but wonder if it might be worth it to push herding back to 120. To do this I would have to drop spirit speak down from 120, or poisoning down from 120. Any suggestions?
And p.s., lighthouse is wrong, based on your recommendations, I saw a newb do well on lvl 2 of SSC earlier today with this build. Even without gm magery!
GREAT STUFF! Couldn’t haunt you on discord … What’s the end goal skill distribution look like?
This is so controversial that I am going to bring it up over Thanksgiving
Your poor family. Good luck soldier.
Outstanding!
Thanks Robert!
Thanks for the Vid Straw. Just got my necro goin and love it so far. I saw on Pwns vid that he went fire aspect. Your thoughts on aspect? Thanks a ton for taking the time to put out such awesome content.
Death > Command / Lyric if pet necro. Death if caster necro. Fire if you have lots of links available.
I started a week ago and made 3 miners. Biught varite pickaxes after firsr 5000 ingot sold. Then continued mining and made 240k the next day.
Attaboy
I found that harvester summoner is easier since you get protection from the mobs with ur summons without having to interrupt ur harvesting
Hi Bro, what are your recomendations on Wizard Grimore please? where to expend the points? nice video I have watched maybe 6 times eheh
Hey!
I typically get mushroom ( create food ) - Magic Arrow - Harm - Lightning Bolt - Curse - Mana Drain - GHeal - FS.
Some combination of the above works well for me!
If you want to AOE farm instead, put points into Chain Lightning and Meteor Swarm!
Nice !
Thank you
In what order would you recommend upgrading earth elemental in the summoners tome?
EZ WORK!!
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i started playing outlands 3 weeks ago with a holy tank, its fun but slow and tamers KS me non stop. I am going to give this a try it looks a bit more fast pace and fun! I have a cupple hundred k saved up so should get all the stuff to start.
Do you need to activate herding every single time you go into battle?
No, just double click the crook and its on.
Hi! I have about this build, but with taste id and no wrestling. Can you tell me how you set your wiz grim up? Thanks for a great vid!
Hey David, absolutely. I plug a point into Create food, Magic Arrow, Harm, and Lightning. From there I fill out Flamestrike. The rest is up to you as with this build your pets are your main source of damage. Thats not to say you cant pump single target, you 100% can with this build.
Me personally, I fill out curse/mana vamp and chain lightning. I really enjoy the big AOE pack pulls. Triggering Necro abilities + Chain Lightning is very satisfying AOE damage.
I'm confused, do necromancy make summons stronger ? I'm not able to find any reference to that in the wiki, only spirit speak seems to be increasing summon stats and skills.
The blood oath ability from necro.
Great video, thx!
May you explain different between summon creatures?
Can I farm without necromancy? Is it possible to go with earth elemental only?
You can do earth elemental only. Its just no where near as strong. Necromancy combined with Spirit Speak and Herding is what takes the reflect damage from the Mummy ( Necro Earth Elemental ) to the next level.
Thank you btw and I hope this answer helps :)
great vadio , thx for sharing😊
if i wanna to add Forensic Evaluation to this build (for Leather gather), you will suggestion replace Herding to Evaluation ?
@@Rustweaver Hi Joe, depends on what you would like to prioritize. You can certainly remove herding and put foresnic but youll find your pet damage severely lacking. I would personally drop Wrestling OR Eval Int. Your summons are your main source of damage and safety so the stronger they are, the better.
Dropping eval int will reduce YOUR spell damage but forensic eval ( skinning) comes with a 25% buff to YOUR damage. This is the route I would personally go.
Thanks for this…
So I was wondering if this still Relevant, I see lots of people saying tamer in discord. I just came back been doing a lot of reading I started day 1 of game played for like 6 months, I lost my house everything only have a lock picker 104 and I was using stealth archer with shadow aspect back in day. Trying to figure out best way to start making gold again.
It is very relevant still! If you want to really get moving, look at my other death necro video with barding. Use the mummies in ak4 or any high damage locations. Go crazy :)
WB dude. I went with peacadin at first but as soon as I had farmed enough for reagents and a spellbook&tome, I switched to Void Summon Necro (without herding). Then tried a Monk Dexxer, switched him to a backstabber. And now I'm back to playing a dexxer lol. One thing I'm still not quite sure about, where do I get the mastery chain I can add the links to? Had some gold lying around so I bought a bronze melee acc link, but I dont have the chain yet haha. Well I have it stashed for later so doesn't matter :)
Hey Boog! Thank you sir. Sounds like you've had fun testing out the different builds. That's great.
The mastery chain is a crafted item. I believe tinkers make them. If you check outlandsmarket you might be able to find one for sale on a vendor somewhere. If not, I can search around for you later today. Do you mind DMing me on discord, I might be able to better help with the links/chain that way. Accuracy is a great link to start as a monk dexxer.
@@A-Straw-Hat Ah, I see. Thanks for the heads up! Might not be up playing today (still up from night shift), but I'll keep searching now that I know they're out there 👌
@@boogiebong There's usually a few vendors in Anchors Rest that sells chains. They seem to always post them at around 250k. Take a look around at the vendors in the house boats, not the open top boats. There's one south of the moongate who seems to keep them stocked, and one north/east of the moongate, the houseboat looks like it has a balcony on it, with matching vendors. The vendor is usually at the boats balcony. I hope these directions make sense lol.
@@smalltimeexplorer3544 thanks for the info! Gotta farm a bit more then. but good to know
@@A-Straw-Hat Also gotta say, I'm liking the synergies with swordsmanship and blood aspect. At first I was hesitant to go for blood over air, but the price difference makes up for the atkspd lol. The all stat increase and extra damage to creatures below 50% hp help alot too (+ the extra bleeds too!)
What is the green book with the eye on it ? Not the necro book. I aint played for awhile myself, so that looks new to me. The book on the far right in the backpack. Thanks!
its the st patricks day event item, a matching game
@@ShrekonDVD745 thanks for reply man! I aint been on in along time.
Thanks for thr build, just made this character, low level still but I'm liking it already.
I want to have 40 camping so I can carry more gold and such. What would you recommend lowering?
Thanks
At the sacrifice of your pet tankiness, herding and spirit speak.
@A-Straw-Hat ok, what do you think about dropping eval to 60.
@@dbldfit9908 You could but you would need to keep med at 80 to keep the wizards grim active.
@@A-Straw-Hat ah. Ok, thank you.
Seems like this could be good on a boat? Have you tried it? (Appreciate the videos).
Hey
Drive Thru! I have not. Boating is something I still have yet to take part in. It looks fun and I am looking forward to it in the future.
@@A-Straw-Hat Good deal. I dabble. Looks like we are in the same alliance (I'm NKB)... The folks in YEW are all-in on it. It's a money sink to be sure. (I enjoy it though).
@@DriveThruReview NKB is awesome! I've had a lot fun at bosses and call outs with them recently. Great guild!
@@A-Straw-Hat Ya the "management" knows what they're doing and they're a ton of fun :D
Like your videos! I am confused about my character
100 mage
100eval
100med
96 resist
116 ss
76 Tatics
20 wrestling
56 chiv- just turned it down
Started with holy aspect to lvl 4 and ppl said was bad for mage. So switched to blood (tier 8 now) for stat increases. Want to drop chiv but for what?
If it were me, I would drop chiv and tactics while picking up necromancy. I would also drop resist and keep wrestling built up.
You can build a caster necro with this or pivot into herding necro.
SSC is so overcrowded with overleveled that no noobs are getting kills there. Just shared xp.
Something to think of as no gold sucks. Better to hit there on EXP weeks.
How has this build been affected by the reflect nerf in the last update?
Damage reflection was only nerfed for obscene amounts of damage. For summons, it's capped at 100*control slots, so 200 for mummies. Looking at the gameplay, the mummies are never reflecting more than 200 damage. So I think the build is safe.
@@Denny-Thray Reflect is capped at 500! Its great in harder dungeons like SSC2 and Maus 4! Try them on a felbeast. Its great.
There is no wrong build. The best i ever had was an Archer. I wiped out hundreds and hundreds of reds who would try and steal a champion spawn from me. They learned quick to leave me alone or id take their gear before you could insure items. Lol😊
Did level 4 dungeons come out yet?
Only 1, soon to be more!
hey mate. are you on twitch?
Hey Chomrik! I do not stream but I might in the future.
@@A-Straw-Hat great content man :) enjoy the vids
Does it work well in other level 3 dungeons?
Very much so.
I have been using earth elem…no more
is this still a good build after the recent patch?
Yep. It wasn't nerfed the way people think it was. Very strong still.
What Links would you suggest for this build?
Hi Trent.
Effective Necromancy >
@@A-Straw-Hat Thank you was struggling to decipher if Follower dmg and attack speed was relevant but saw a few people mention 10x bronze necro chains
First toon should be a lock picker at gm u can easily turn a mil per hr u can't make whatever u want u need funding very few people will pay for your toon s gear cores codes and chains
I dont disagree but I also have videos explaining how to get off the ground from scratch. That wont be in a video like this. Check the rest of the channel. Thanks Toby.
Im not really certain how a brand new character is going to make a million per hour with no aspect and chain while lock picking however.
Do tell. I run a harvest picker and dont come close to that due to the amount of other pickers.
Is this build still viable in January 2024?
yes. Very much so.
@@A-Straw-Hat If I wanted to sub 80 Music and 80 Discord into this build would I sacrifice wrestling to do so?
@@TheFingerfoods Hey man, I actually have another video on this setup. Take a look.
This completely doesn't tell me "how" to start a new char as a new player, what stats to set, skills etc
If you look at the first 10 minutes of the video it shows the skills, and the stats. This video isn't meant to teach you Ultima Online in general. Its a new player build guide as it says in the title.
Do you see the middle of the screen where it shows all the skills for the build? Do you see the right side of the screen with the stat bar showing 100 str, 25 dex, and 100 int?
If you want to learn the basics of Ultima Online I would suggest searching for specific videos that are made for that content. Good luck.
th-cam.com/video/nufU3pF2ar4/w-d-xo.html
The skills and stats are on the screen
Thank you for your effort man, watching your guides and vids is a pleasure.
Wanted to contact you on discord but can't find the nick you use there @TheTmost
Hey bud! Idk how this didn't trigger a notification when you commented but if you search A Straw Hat on discord you should be able to find me!
Thanks for the kind words sir.
You prefer this to tamer?
I like it more than tamer but I believe its not quite as strong. Taming is currently far overtuned at the moment.
@@A-Straw-Hat well wheres your tamer vid?! ^^
@@DB1_2 Coming out with a new dungeon!
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand nerfed lol
Nope. Works great still. Tested it myself :)
New players doesn’t have those spells.
How is this Controversial? LoL why make click bait statements when you could just put new player build and would get more views
Hi Dallas,
As I was saying at the start of the video, there has been a lot of debate over what build to start with.
Lately, even months ago, I find new players asking what to start as, what build or skills to work on. No one can seem to agree on one path.
In my experience, when I suggest this build, I find most people are confused and are not aware of how strong a starting build this actually is.
That being said, I also find that it gets pushback and disagreement because people feel strongly about their preferred builds. This specific starter build has been controversial in my circles for months.
Been playing this server for 2 years. Before this video literally everyone would tell you to start off as a bard dexxer. This was controversial but it made a huge impact on the community so it isn’t anymore..but this video was the catalyst to that change
I had exactly 1 person message me about these highly sought after board commodities in 3 days to which i didnt know despite having discord notifications turned on. No one bites, and they put discord buy/sell channels for outlands in slowmode so you can only say a message every 6 hours. Trying this game out was a mistake.
Have you tried using a vendor? People put their items on a vendor and it typically gets scanned onto a website and people search via that. IDK what your prices are either. Check the market. If you still decide to play.
@@A-Straw-Hat Hey thanks for the reply, I dont know much about the game tbh. I can put a vendor in any public house? I'm starting from the bottom and not too sure what to do.
@@vitamin3076 Typically there are public vendor houses that players advertise for. If you run around prevalia bank you might find people gating to them. Also Shelter moongate has a lot of people gating to them.
From there, find a scroll on a tile in a house. That is a rental contract. Once you accept a contract ( think weekly pay ) you can start putting goods on your vendor for other players to buy.
These vendors are typically scanned by other players and the data is uploaded to sites like outlandsmalls where players can search for goods.
This is typically easier to do than dealing with people on discord.
sounds like trying anything for you is a mistake. i started two days ago and have been going strong.
I was just at ssc with my lvl 10 nix necro
Made about 25k in about 30 min
Can not wait for lvl 15