This is exactly the review that I needed. Thank you!! I have been vacillating between these for over a year now. I am also a delivery driver, do light strength training, and do more walking than running, so this review is practically tailored to my information needs.
@sonsofsever So, I have had both brands for a bit now. Peluva, I will say, has a terrible size conversion chart. I use European sizes because they are standardised, unlike US sizes. I wear a 41 in all sneakers of every brand, a 42 in all boots except steel toes of every brand, and a 43 in steel toes of every brand. I wear a 42 in Peluva sneakers, apparently, and could use another half-size yet for better comfort. This is per their chart, which means their chart is wrong. As to the rest, I find the Vibrams to be more suited to casual wear, as I thought they would. The Peluvas will be nice for my delivery job, once I break them in, and that's an odd thing for me these days. I've never had a barefoot or minimalist shoe that felt like I needed to break it in. There's a bit too much padding for my taste. I think I'll stick with Vibrams, after these wear out.
@@sinnastevenson2302 the only comment I have here is that we have found European sizes to be super inconsistent 😂 we never know what we’re getting when it comes to tightness with European sizes. From all the companies we work with, I have tried 41-45 and all of those sizes have fit me from different companies 🤷🏻♂️
Wanted to let people know, with my vibrams, they didn't feel the best day one, but after a week and 50 hours in them, they loosened up a little, and my toes adapted to them more. One foot fit pretty good first try on, the other has some issues as I broke it and some toes in the past. The broken toes were the problem areas, the shoes rubbed on my toes weird, they've since stopped having that issue. Just wanted to say this for anyone who is on the fence when they receive their toe shoes.
Do you have the v-train? Wanted to get the v-runs but the store had only kso evo. Right foot fit perfectly but my left foot had all toes a bit bent coz they were a bit too tight. I can’t run in them coz I need to clench my toes a tiny bit.
I just wanted to you to know how much I appreciate you responding to all the questions and comments! Even getting a little sassy with one specifically, youre keepin it real and im pretty sure we all appreciate it 😂😂
@sonsofsever never let the sass die! 😂 Whenever I buy a shoe I wear them for literally everything From hiking to work, to walking downtown or working out I think ima have to finally invest in some peluvas, because my old shoes are DEAD 😂😂
Can’t believe I missed this video! I love all of your videos and I’ve been contemplating trying out peluvas so I’m surprised I missed this! Did you experience any overhang with the peluvas?
I had a pair I wore pretty much every day in high school, in all weather, and that led to me machine washing them every week. The insoles came unglued after 2 years of constant wear, but are thin, and mostly there to protect your foot from how itchy the bottom is. It also makes a huge difference for insulation. The V-NEOP came with extra insoles to help with how cold it can get, and the Trek Ascent Insulated with its wool insole is great for walking on ice. As a Canadian, that's important, but if you're somewhere warm and always wear socks, yeah, the insoles aren't needed.
Vibram has been good to me and their customer support unmatched to any other barefoot company that I've tried. Peluva looks nice but I don't like what I see when it comes to their return policy and their $3.98 charge for it which also says that you cannot wear them (how can I try the fit). I might take a gamble during a sale.
What is the support like? My physio suggested I switch to a more supportive shoe because of some issues I was having mostly with squats and deadlifts, as my knees like to fall inwards, and my arches collapse. I ended up getting New Balance 880 v14. I like them, I find they help my form, especially as they make me slightly taller which keeps my feet on the ground. But I miss the thinner soles. I'm thinking of maybe getting a pair of shoes specifically for lifting after the summer when I should be strong enough to keep proper form without so much foam under my feet. But I still want some arch support for those heavier lifts. I know some Vibram ones are better than others (Trek Ascent has much more arch support than KSO, for one), but I hadn't seen much on the V-Train 2.0 and if it's more supportive than their hiking models, or somewhere in the middle. PS: for a more weather proof one, Nikwax Cotton Proof works well on Vibram's insulated models. Still not great, but better than their failed Gore-Tex ones that leaked so much and were not breathable at all. I use the Trek Ascent Insulated ones that I treated for winter hikes across icy and snowy patches and stay dry. But I'm also looking into waterproof jikatabi as an alternative.
Sounds like you need to strengthen your feet so you can support being in thinner shoes. You’re supposed to be able to pronate but and a very big BUT is that you also need the strength to support coming out of pronation (collapsing). When lifting it’s even harder and putting more force. I would wear your supported shoes and just strength train your feet. Then try going back to flatter shoes. Remember when you were supported shoes, it’s like a cast. It makes your feet weaker. But if they are already weak, you don’t want to put them under too much load, go slow.
I already measured my foot and I am size 43 according to the vff page. My question is: if I want to wear it with socks (obviously corresponding to this shoe) should I choose 43 or the next size which would be 44?
Actually I was thinking of buying the same ones from the Vibram brand, a couple of packages just to have for the training days. He would never wear them barefoot!! You're right, thanks for the advice, I'll do that.
I had heard that Vibram had an international patent on toe shoes and that that's why they were the only brand making them... This is the first other toe shoe I've seen. So did Vibram's patent (or one of them) run out? Are there now other brands making toe shoes, or is it still just these two? I had imagined that the competition among brands would explode when this became possible.
@@caseyalanjones so far this is the only other five toe shoe. There are some two and three toed shoes out there. Not sure about all that deep dive legal stuff
@@sonsofsever Interesting, and so strange that only one company besides Vibram would try this, given such huge growth in the barefoot shoe market in recent years. Considering the Peluva Strand launched only last year, perhaps something changed recently and we will see more such shoes soon. Especially interesting that they both seem to be US companies too. I might expect to see companies try to get around the patent in countries at loggerheads with the US like China or Russia. Perhaps they have some licensing kickback deal with Vibram. Great to know about this new option though! Seems Peluva doesn't ship to Europe yet, but I look forward to trying them someday! Just as you say, that they do blend into societal expectations better, which at times can be desirable. Thanks for this video comparison and the reply!
Hello brother are the other pair barefoot shoe as vibram? Please do let me know and can I workout with those on cause I really have disfigured feet right now and need to put it back to nayural shape over tine😅
@@sonsofsever That's good to know. I often have a bit of a baggy spot on my pinky toe in toe socks, where my biggest two toes tend to wear holes in them. Especially my SmartWool ones, which sucks because they're discontinued. I find most Vibrams a little big in the pinky toe, but in stretchy upper fabrics, it doesn't matter as much. I've been eyeing Peluva, but I think I'll stick with Vibram because of that.
A little but that’s more because I have a very wide foot in a very weird way. I have almost like a bunion at the knuckle of my pinky toe. I don’t blame the shoe for the shape of my foot and I honestly don’t notice it. All that said, the Strand is fine for lifting but by far not my favorite lifting shoe. It’s a good overall “training” shoe. But I prefer to lift in something with less EVA midsole
Yeah! We've both owned various styles of Xero Shoes; Prio, Xcursion Fusion, Aptos, Alston, Ridgeway... We haven't made a video about it yet, but we definitely will sometime! Is there a specific question you have in mind comparing the two?
@@holliedekraai4137 I liked mine, the barefoot qualities are top notch. Mine started to separate at the toes and I got holes in the upper after about a year of use however. That has always been my issue with Xero Shoes, they seem to fall apart quicker than other brands.
@@holliedekraai4137 the Peluvas do seem to be holding up better. Chris has put 150 miles of running on them plus casual wear and they are still in great condition. It's a tough call cause people do love Xeros, they always get a lot of good reviews, but we just haven't had the best experience with their quality and longevity
This is exactly the review that I needed. Thank you!! I have been vacillating between these for over a year now. I am also a delivery driver, do light strength training, and do more walking than running, so this review is practically tailored to my information needs.
Which did you choose????
@@sonsofsever I went for the Peluva, but also got some Vibram slip on for casual wear.
@@sinnastevenson2302 let us know what you think when you get em!
@sonsofsever So, I have had both brands for a bit now. Peluva, I will say, has a terrible size conversion chart. I use European sizes because they are standardised, unlike US sizes. I wear a 41 in all sneakers of every brand, a 42 in all boots except steel toes of every brand, and a 43 in steel toes of every brand. I wear a 42 in Peluva sneakers, apparently, and could use another half-size yet for better comfort. This is per their chart, which means their chart is wrong. As to the rest, I find the Vibrams to be more suited to casual wear, as I thought they would. The Peluvas will be nice for my delivery job, once I break them in, and that's an odd thing for me these days. I've never had a barefoot or minimalist shoe that felt like I needed to break it in. There's a bit too much padding for my taste. I think I'll stick with Vibrams, after these wear out.
@@sinnastevenson2302 the only comment I have here is that we have found European sizes to be super inconsistent 😂 we never know what we’re getting when it comes to tightness with European sizes. From all the companies we work with, I have tried 41-45 and all of those sizes have fit me from different companies 🤷🏻♂️
Wanted to let people know, with my vibrams, they didn't feel the best day one, but after a week and 50 hours in them, they loosened up a little, and my toes adapted to them more. One foot fit pretty good first try on, the other has some issues as I broke it and some toes in the past. The broken toes were the problem areas, the shoes rubbed on my toes weird, they've since stopped having that issue.
Just wanted to say this for anyone who is on the fence when they receive their toe shoes.
Do you have the v-train? Wanted to get the v-runs but the store had only kso evo. Right foot fit perfectly but my left foot had all toes a bit bent coz they were a bit too tight. I can’t run in them coz I need to clench my toes a tiny bit.
The store assistant sucked and couldn’t answer a single question about whether they loosen after using them a bit.
Thanks, I have been wearing Vibriams for over a decade and I love them. But I was curious about the Peluvas.
I just wanted to you to know how much I appreciate you responding to all the questions and comments! Even getting a little sassy with one specifically, youre keepin it real and im pretty sure we all appreciate it 😂😂
Eric would say sometimes I’m too sassy 😏🤣 but we always try to keep it real! Just trying to get everyone in the best shoes possible 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@sonsofsever never let the sass die! 😂
Whenever I buy a shoe I wear them for literally everything
From hiking to work, to walking downtown or working out
I think ima have to finally invest in some peluvas, because my old shoes are DEAD 😂😂
@@taratheterror honestly… really well rounded shoe. It is very different from the five fingers
@@sonsofsever thank you!
I appreciate you guys!
This video was very helpful
Can’t believe I missed this video! I love all of your videos and I’ve been contemplating trying out peluvas so I’m surprised I missed this! Did you experience any overhang with the peluvas?
@@hood4thought699 nope!
Only use i found out of the Vibrams, was fighting outside!
Just pull the insole out of the vibram and they instantly get much more comfy
I dunno about yours but these ones are stitched in and I like them just fine 😂
I had a pair I wore pretty much every day in high school, in all weather, and that led to me machine washing them every week. The insoles came unglued after 2 years of constant wear, but are thin, and mostly there to protect your foot from how itchy the bottom is. It also makes a huge difference for insulation. The V-NEOP came with extra insoles to help with how cold it can get, and the Trek Ascent Insulated with its wool insole is great for walking on ice. As a Canadian, that's important, but if you're somewhere warm and always wear socks, yeah, the insoles aren't needed.
Lol “I don’t hate those as much”
The wife knows her husband has to “look” good! lol
I don't hate either one ,vibrams just don't hold up Hiking at all
Vibram has been good to me and their customer support unmatched to any other barefoot company that I've tried. Peluva looks nice but I don't like what I see when it comes to their return policy and their $3.98 charge for it which also says that you cannot wear them (how can I try the fit). I might take a gamble during a sale.
What is the support like? My physio suggested I switch to a more supportive shoe because of some issues I was having mostly with squats and deadlifts, as my knees like to fall inwards, and my arches collapse. I ended up getting New Balance 880 v14. I like them, I find they help my form, especially as they make me slightly taller which keeps my feet on the ground. But I miss the thinner soles. I'm thinking of maybe getting a pair of shoes specifically for lifting after the summer when I should be strong enough to keep proper form without so much foam under my feet. But I still want some arch support for those heavier lifts. I know some Vibram ones are better than others (Trek Ascent has much more arch support than KSO, for one), but I hadn't seen much on the V-Train 2.0 and if it's more supportive than their hiking models, or somewhere in the middle.
PS: for a more weather proof one, Nikwax Cotton Proof works well on Vibram's insulated models. Still not great, but better than their failed Gore-Tex ones that leaked so much and were not breathable at all. I use the Trek Ascent Insulated ones that I treated for winter hikes across icy and snowy patches and stay dry. But I'm also looking into waterproof jikatabi as an alternative.
Sounds like you need to strengthen your feet so you can support being in thinner shoes. You’re supposed to be able to pronate but and a very big BUT is that you also need the strength to support coming out of pronation (collapsing). When lifting it’s even harder and putting more force. I would wear your supported shoes and just strength train your feet. Then try going back to flatter shoes.
Remember when you were supported shoes, it’s like a cast. It makes your feet weaker. But if they are already weak, you don’t want to put them under too much load, go slow.
Great review!! I like the Vtrain. What brand chest bag are you carrying while running?
@@sptheartist1803 5.11 skyweight or the FHF gear chest pack. We have reviews of both on the channel
Thanks
I wear vibram trail love them, whats the price difference with the peluvas ?
V Trail are $135, Peluva Strand are $140.
Can you run without socks and have little effect on your feet? Or when running do you recommend always wearing socks?
Both of these shoes are very sockless friendly. I have run and lifted sockless in both with zero discomfort
I already measured my foot and I am size 43 according to the vff page. My question is: if I want to wear it with socks (obviously corresponding to this shoe) should I choose 43 or the next size which would be 44?
So I would say depends on the socks but I can wear all my toe socks with these. I think you should be good going true to size
Actually I was thinking of buying the same ones from the Vibram brand, a couple of packages just to have for the training days. He would never wear them barefoot!! You're right, thanks for the advice, I'll do that.
I had heard that Vibram had an international patent on toe shoes and that that's why they were the only brand making them... This is the first other toe shoe I've seen. So did Vibram's patent (or one of them) run out? Are there now other brands making toe shoes, or is it still just these two? I had imagined that the competition among brands would explode when this became possible.
@@caseyalanjones so far this is the only other five toe shoe. There are some two and three toed shoes out there. Not sure about all that deep dive legal stuff
@@sonsofsever Interesting, and so strange that only one company besides Vibram would try this, given such huge growth in the barefoot shoe market in recent years. Considering the Peluva Strand launched only last year, perhaps something changed recently and we will see more such shoes soon. Especially interesting that they both seem to be US companies too. I might expect to see companies try to get around the patent in countries at loggerheads with the US like China or Russia. Perhaps they have some licensing kickback deal with Vibram. Great to know about this new option though! Seems Peluva doesn't ship to Europe yet, but I look forward to trying them someday! Just as you say, that they do blend into societal expectations better, which at times can be desirable. Thanks for this video comparison and the reply!
over the life of the shoe did the foam between your sole and toes wear out quickly? Ive run into this issue myself and wondering if anyone else has
In the Peluva, correct?
Hello brother are the other pair barefoot shoe as vibram? Please do let me know and can I workout with those on cause I really have disfigured feet right now and need to put it back to nayural shape over tine😅
Yup! They’re both zero drop and they both put your toes where they’re supposed to go
5:15 weird question but what pants are those?
Those are the Path Projects Killam pant. We have a recent review of them here on the channel
@@sonsofsever ah, thank you
Which shoe is more forgiving towards wide feet
They’re both pretty good in that regard. Probably the v train. But they’re both like gloves. They kinda stretch to fit your width
@sonsofsever thank you I've been on the fence bc I've been worried it just wouldn't work for me but now I Def will try one
Why /How did the peluvas not fit his foot? Cuz his big toe is longer? or in what way?
His pinky toe wouldn’t go into the pinky toe hole. It was too short
@@sonsofsever That's good to know. I often have a bit of a baggy spot on my pinky toe in toe socks, where my biggest two toes tend to wear holes in them. Especially my SmartWool ones, which sucks because they're discontinued. I find most Vibrams a little big in the pinky toe, but in stretchy upper fabrics, it doesn't matter as much. I've been eyeing Peluva, but I think I'll stick with Vibram because of that.
It looks like the foot spills out over the edge of the Peluva Strand during a lift.
A little but that’s more because I have a very wide foot in a very weird way. I have almost like a bunion at the knuckle of my pinky toe. I don’t blame the shoe for the shape of my foot and I honestly don’t notice it.
All that said, the Strand is fine for lifting but by far not my favorite lifting shoe. It’s a good overall “training” shoe. But I prefer to lift in something with less EVA midsole
Have you ever compared either of these to the xero brand minimalist shoes?
Yeah! We've both owned various styles of Xero Shoes; Prio, Xcursion Fusion, Aptos, Alston, Ridgeway... We haven't made a video about it yet, but we definitely will sometime! Is there a specific question you have in mind comparing the two?
@@sonsofsever thinking of getting a pair of prios, what are your thoughts? Xeros any good?
@@holliedekraai4137 I liked mine, the barefoot qualities are top notch. Mine started to separate at the toes and I got holes in the upper after about a year of use however. That has always been my issue with Xero Shoes, they seem to fall apart quicker than other brands.
@@sonsofsever would you recommend peluva strands over xeros?
@@holliedekraai4137 the Peluvas do seem to be holding up better. Chris has put 150 miles of running on them plus casual wear and they are still in great condition. It's a tough call cause people do love Xeros, they always get a lot of good reviews, but we just haven't had the best experience with their quality and longevity