Dave and Kathy. Thank you for all of your videos and for the education and entertainment they provide. The Connors are my favorite You tubers, Bailey being an added bonus when she makes an appearance. You have given me the encouragement and guidance to soon purchase a new Tesla. Cheers to you both!
I thought this would be too "basic" for me but I learned a few things and I'm glad I watched. Dave has all the jargon down but Kathy knows how to explain without jargon. She must be an experienced teacher. Thank You both. I look forward to more content from you as a couple. 😊
The motor doesn’t “spin backwards” for regen. It’s used as a generator, capturing the kinetic energy from the vehicle in motion and recharging the battery. The motor is still spinning in the same direction, as it is direct drive through a reduction gear set.
Love your videos. I find the best way to explain a kWh to other people is to describe it as the amount of energy needed to run ten 100 watt old style incandescent light bulbs for one hour.
Helpful for newbies! Sometimes EV owners go overboard with the terminology. For example, I've been berated for referring to the "motor" in a gas car rather than the engine. Derp! Somebody better tell General Motors and Motortrend to change their names! 😅 Oddly enough, however, you'd be surprised how many EV owners look at me cross-eyed when I tell them I had to have my… PCS replaced. Huh?
8:40 I am not sure if this applies to the US market as it does to the European market, but at least here in Europe we have a lot more PHEVs that can be charged with a DC-fastcharger. The Mitsubishi Outlander comes with CHAdeMO in Europe, Mercedes-Benz offers CCS for most of their PHEV models, Land Rover PHEVs come with CCS and Volkswagen will offer the new 2024 Passat PHEV with CCS. In addition to that there are some models that are EVs from ground up, but some of them come with an optional range extender gas engin. Technically these vehicles are PHEVs as well. The BMW I3, the one that Kyle had a couple of years ago, is one example for this variant of PHEVs and they come with CCS too.
Thanks to you both. One observation the PHEV situation with DC charging the Outlander also can fast charge on DC using Chademo. Obviously the CCS1 that you showed is Canada/US specific and much of the rest of the world uses CCS2 for DC. The Tesla connector(I refuse to call it NACS as it's not a standard as developed or approved by a official standards body, just a marketing term at this stage) is definitely mainly going to be used in the US/Canada.
You can refuse to call it NACS, BUT it is the standard terminology that everyone is using. Everyone in the BEV field knows what NACS is. What are you going to call it, Tesla Standard??
@@LetsGoBrandonOne But it's not a standard so wouldn't even call it that. Until it's been ratified by a standards body. Not everyone calls it NACS either, generalisation is bad. Tesla connector is all it is right now.
@@TassieEV The communication standard for NACS is ISO 15118, so there is a V to grid communication standard. In the US, NACS is well known as the Tesla standard and whether you like it or not, its here to stay and more and more manufacturers are wisely adopting it.
Dave new subscriber to the channel, out of curiosity you stated in one of the videos that you have always changed cars frequently. What is the average time that you keep I car. I usually avg. 3-4 years and I get crab from my friends but I think you may have me beat :-)
Getting the handle of one pedal driving takes 10 minutes (provided you're driving around with a lot of stops), but to master it where you get the finesse, it takes a week or two. It's not really different from how you feather your foot onto the brake (negative accelerator) (so you don't stop suddenly) and slowly release it when driving with normal braking. It's just that you're feathering off of the (positive) accelerator.
Land Rover and Range Rover PHEVs can also DC fast charge - some of their models also have up to 70 miles electric only range. Personally I would prefer not to carry around the dead wood weight of an unused petrol/gas engine as well as the weight of a big battery and another electric motor, one system of which is not used as much as the other. Another issue that I have with PHEVs is that most default to electric only mode at start-up and the PHEV I had would go to 85mph in electric only mode and then a stone cold gas engine would cut in at high rpm and under load. I ran my PHEV for 2 years and gave up on it as the petrol engine was a 1.5l 3 cylinder turbo but the electric only mode was good for 13 miles in the winter not the advertised 28 miles. That small engine had to work very hard to drag along the weight of the HV battery and the electric motor as well as the car. Run both engine and electric motor it was a brilliant drive with bags of power and torque but only for a short period. The gas economy was not good in petrol only mode too - the ICE only version of the car could easily get 50mpg with it 2.0ltr 4 cylinder turbo engine but the 3 cylinder turbo 1.5 while silky smooth and quiet would struggle to reach 30mpg when the 10kWh battery was depleted. Swapped the PHEV for a full on BEV and haven’t looked back (and can leave the ICE version of the same car wondering what just whizzed passed them!)
I believe Tesla uses 3 different battery chemistries: 1. NCA or nickel-cobalt-aluminum 2. NCM or nickel-cobalt-manganese 3. LFP or lithium-iron-phosphate Actually, all three use lithium, but often it’s not mentioned. LFP chemistry avoids undesirable cobalt and expensive nickel, but is less dense and lower power. LFP is lower cost and best for entry level BEVs.
I have a Mini Cooper SE and drive less than 40 miles a day. I use Type 1 charging every day. My question is since I'm charging with type 1can I charge to 100% each time I charge? Thanks.
Question: I see that you like to get down below 10% and sometimes close to 0. When you’re on a roadtrip, what happens if you’re in wreck traffic? gas stations are usually more prevalent than EV stations, especially in the middle of the country.
Also in general (I cannot think of one that cannot!) EV’s turn off their motors when stopped so they are not consuming power from the motive battery into the motor - that’s one reason why there is also a 12v battery to power up non-motor auxiliaries. In many ICE cars people disable stop/ start equipment and just sent burned fuel down the tail pipe even though they are not moving. In the event that the 12v battery charge drops too low most EVs can dump HV battery charge into the 12v battery too.
Dave and Kathy the Mitsubishi Outlander phev has chademo for dc fast charging. I also wanted to point out that lots of used cars like my leaf will be around for years using chademo and ccs. Hampton inn just installed francis energy dc chargers with ccs and chademo. Evgo still supports ccs and chademo. They said it would be 2 years before Nacs even is added with full power. They said in their video that they would support ccs and chademo not just Nacs . I was charging next too a Kia soul ev that had chademo. My city if 900,000. Ea is the only one that will still have 1 chademo . But not the other company s
I’d like to know more about the tires. Why does a set cost 3 grand? I was sitting at the tire shop with my i.c.e. And asked the guy hey I can buy this model , but if I upgrade to the next one I can get tires that are 20” was 19”. Other than looks do they do anything different? His response was Id go with the 19” they’re a lot cheaper. Looking at all the cars they seem to upgrade to bigger tires. Now, I live in a place where we get snow. So that’s my main concern. All weather tires, not all season, vs winter tires. I look forward to your charging video.
Thank goodness charger guru Tom Moloughney took a hard stand on calling EVSE “chargers” when technically they are not. Charger is much easier to say than supply equipment.
Yes, charging is very poor at apartments and condominium/HOAs. In larger cities such as Boston, there are many higher-end apartment buildings with EV charging. I lived in one for 18 months and charging fee was only $30/mo unlimited. As for HOAs, adopting EV charging is a slow chicken/egg process. They won’t do it until enough residents demand it. Condo boards need to learn there are low cost commercial chargers available that directly bill the user for electricity. One charger can support 5 -7 EVs easily. You only fund charger infrastructure for the next 3-5 years.
@@johnpoldo8817 there's something in Colorado that require new buildings to be built with EV charging no matter who has an electric, will get back to you on this
An electric car carrying all the weight and complexity of an ICEV such as DB engine , exhaust, transmission, or an ICEV carrying EV components such as batteries, inverter, BMS. Some of us are attracted to complexity when there are better solutions. If for whatever reason a BEV doesn't work for you, there are plenty of reliable ICEVs out there. There are more things that can go wrong with a Hybrid vehicle than even an ICEV.
Hybrids were ok years ago when BEVs had short range and very expensive. Now, hybrids are obsolete. A hybrid has all the maintenance of an ICE vehicle. BEVs have very little. It’s grossly inefficient to drag around a heavy engine with a tiny battery. Hybrid batteries only deliver 25-50 miles. Range is so short, owners often ignore to plug them in.
Dave and Kathy. Thank you for all of your videos and for the education and entertainment they provide. The Connors are my favorite You tubers, Bailey being an added bonus when she makes an appearance. You have given me the encouragement and guidance to soon purchase a new Tesla. Cheers to you both!
It's the "Out of Spec" Game Show!! where Kathy wins the jackpot and gets Dave as a prize (LOL)
I thought this would be too "basic" for me but I learned a few things and I'm glad I watched. Dave has all the jargon down but Kathy knows how to explain without jargon. She must be an experienced teacher. Thank You both. I look forward to more content from you as a couple. 😊
Dave’s right. I had a hybrid for 10 years the recently went to an EV. My Tesla is amazing
This is so good well done
This is fantastic. Thanks for this. Love Kathy. 🤩
ACDC has a new album coming out this month. Great video y'all.
EXCELLENT VIDEO SERIES IDEA 💪 Keep EM coming...
Great video Dave and Kathy! I learned a lot!!👍👍
The motor doesn’t “spin backwards” for regen. It’s used as a generator, capturing the kinetic energy from the vehicle in motion and recharging the battery. The motor is still spinning in the same direction, as it is direct drive through a reduction gear set.
Correct. I think the only time it spins in the opposite direction is when you are in reverse. Correct me if I'm wrong
Thanks for the clarification and thanks for watching!
@@outofspecdave1554 sure thing! Love your channel! I especially love “Kathy’s Quips” as I call them 🤣 maybe a new segment?
Kathy tried to stay on pace. Her brain is running on 100 MPH during the entire 101 course. You can tell seeing her eyes. LOL. Thanks you guys.
Love your videos. I find the best way to explain a kWh to other people is to describe it as the amount of energy needed to run ten 100 watt old style incandescent light bulbs for one hour.
On the charging-specific video you will have to go over "splash and dash."
Thank you for doing this video! Fellow CT resident :) hopefully you’ll see my model Y on the road soon. Hoping to buy in December!
Awesome video!! Excellent information!!
Helpful for newbies! Sometimes EV owners go overboard with the terminology. For example, I've been berated for referring to the "motor" in a gas car rather than the engine. Derp! Somebody better tell General Motors and Motortrend to change their names! 😅 Oddly enough, however, you'd be surprised how many EV owners look at me cross-eyed when I tell them I had to have my… PCS replaced. Huh?
8:40 I am not sure if this applies to the US market as it does to the European market, but at least here in Europe we have a lot more PHEVs that can be charged with a DC-fastcharger. The Mitsubishi Outlander comes with CHAdeMO in Europe, Mercedes-Benz offers CCS for most of their PHEV models, Land Rover PHEVs come with CCS and Volkswagen will offer the new 2024 Passat PHEV with CCS.
In addition to that there are some models that are EVs from ground up, but some of them come with an optional range extender gas engin. Technically these vehicles are PHEVs as well. The BMW I3, the one that Kyle had a couple of years ago, is one example for this variant of PHEVs and they come with CCS too.
Thanks to you both. One observation the PHEV situation with DC charging the Outlander also can fast charge on DC using Chademo. Obviously the CCS1 that you showed is Canada/US specific and much of the rest of the world uses CCS2 for DC. The Tesla connector(I refuse to call it NACS as it's not a standard as developed or approved by a official standards body, just a marketing term at this stage) is definitely mainly going to be used in the US/Canada.
You can refuse to call it NACS, BUT it is the standard terminology that everyone is using. Everyone in the BEV field knows what NACS is. What are you going to call it, Tesla Standard??
@@LetsGoBrandonOne But it's not a standard so wouldn't even call it that. Until it's been ratified by a standards body. Not everyone calls it NACS either, generalisation is bad. Tesla connector is all it is right now.
@@TassieEV The communication standard for NACS is ISO 15118, so there is a V to grid communication standard. In the US, NACS is well known as the Tesla standard and whether you like it or not, its here to stay and more and more manufacturers are wisely adopting it.
Dave new subscriber to the channel, out of curiosity you stated in one of the videos that you have always changed cars frequently. What is the average time that you keep I car. I usually avg. 3-4 years and I get crab from my friends but I think you may have me beat :-)
Getting the handle of one pedal driving takes 10 minutes (provided you're driving around with a lot of stops), but to master it where you get the finesse, it takes a week or two.
It's not really different from how you feather your foot onto the brake (negative accelerator) (so you don't stop suddenly) and slowly release it when driving with normal braking. It's just that you're feathering off of the (positive) accelerator.
I am looking forward to this mini series.
Such a fun channel!
Land Rover and Range Rover PHEVs can also DC fast charge - some of their models also have up to 70 miles electric only range. Personally I would prefer not to carry around the dead wood weight of an unused petrol/gas engine as well as the weight of a big battery and another electric motor, one system of which is not used as much as the other. Another issue that I have with PHEVs is that most default to electric only mode at start-up and the PHEV I had would go to 85mph in electric only mode and then a stone cold gas engine would cut in at high rpm and under load. I ran my PHEV for 2 years and gave up on it as the petrol engine was a 1.5l 3 cylinder turbo but the electric only mode was good for 13 miles in the winter not the advertised 28 miles. That small engine had to work very hard to drag along the weight of the HV battery and the electric motor as well as the car. Run both engine and electric motor it was a brilliant drive with bags of power and torque but only for a short period. The gas economy was not good in petrol only mode too - the ICE only version of the car could easily get 50mpg with it 2.0ltr 4 cylinder turbo engine but the 3 cylinder turbo 1.5 while silky smooth and quiet would struggle to reach 30mpg when the 10kWh battery was depleted. Swapped the PHEV for a full on BEV and haven’t looked back (and can leave the ICE version of the same car wondering what just whizzed passed them!)
I believe Tesla uses 3 different battery chemistries:
1. NCA or nickel-cobalt-aluminum
2. NCM or nickel-cobalt-manganese
3. LFP or lithium-iron-phosphate
Actually, all three use lithium, but often it’s not mentioned. LFP chemistry avoids undesirable cobalt and expensive nickel, but is less dense and lower power. LFP is lower cost and best for entry level BEVs.
I have a Mini Cooper SE and drive less than 40 miles a day. I use Type 1 charging every day. My question is since I'm charging with type 1can I charge to 100% each time I charge? Thanks.
13:15 is not ok to call it lvl 3 because it is for non-existent 3 phase AC charging.
We have 3 phase AC charging in Europe
@@Harrythehun yes this is sae in america.
Question: I see that you like to get down below 10% and sometimes close to 0. When you’re on a roadtrip, what happens if you’re in wreck traffic? gas stations are usually more prevalent than EV stations, especially in the middle of the country.
evs are more efficient in traffic. but like any car, if too long, you just run out.
Also in general (I cannot think of one that cannot!) EV’s turn off their motors when stopped so they are not consuming power from the motive battery into the motor - that’s one reason why there is also a 12v battery to power up non-motor auxiliaries. In many ICE cars people disable stop/ start equipment and just sent burned fuel down the tail pipe even though they are not moving. In the event that the 12v battery charge drops too low most EVs can dump HV battery charge into the 12v battery too.
@@laloajuria4678 is there traffic notices in the driving maps?
Dave and Kathy the Mitsubishi Outlander phev has chademo for dc fast charging. I also wanted to point out that lots of used cars like my leaf will be around for years using chademo and ccs. Hampton inn just installed francis energy dc chargers with ccs and chademo. Evgo still supports ccs and chademo. They said it would be 2 years before Nacs even is added with full power. They said in their video that they would support ccs and chademo not just Nacs . I was charging next too a Kia soul ev that had chademo. My city if 900,000. Ea is the only one that will still have 1 chademo . But not the other company s
As a CPO, we don’t re- invest in Chademo when they break or for other reasons. too much money and no revenue for the chademo chargers/plugs
CHAdeMO charging in USA will disappear as a fast as Betamax extinction.
upvoted!!
I’d like to know more about the tires. Why does a set cost 3 grand? I was sitting at the tire shop with my i.c.e. And asked the guy hey I can buy this model , but if I upgrade to the next one I can get tires that are 20” was 19”. Other than looks do they do anything different? His response was Id go with the 19” they’re a lot cheaper. Looking at all the cars they seem to upgrade to bigger tires. Now, I live in a place where we get snow. So that’s my main concern. All weather tires, not all season, vs winter tires. I look forward to your charging video.
Thank goodness charger guru Tom Moloughney took a hard stand on calling EVSE “chargers” when technically they are not. Charger is much easier to say than supply equipment.
I can give a review about living in apartment, and charging electric vehicle what a joke property Management 😂
Yes, charging is very poor at apartments and condominium/HOAs. In larger cities such as Boston, there are many higher-end apartment buildings with EV charging. I lived in one for 18 months and charging fee was only $30/mo unlimited.
As for HOAs, adopting EV charging is a slow chicken/egg process. They won’t do it until enough residents demand it. Condo boards need to learn there are low cost commercial chargers available that directly bill the user for electricity. One charger can support 5 -7 EVs easily. You only fund charger infrastructure for the next 3-5 years.
@@johnpoldo8817 there's something in Colorado that require new buildings to be built with EV charging no matter who has an electric, will get back to you on this
The more options the better. Hybrid is the way to go. Excellent Efficiency and No Range Anxiety. Why is this even a question ?
you picked the one with worst of both worlds. enjoy.
Hybrids may suit some people but most of us can manage great with BEV. Road trips cross Europe is easy and enjoyable with a Tesla.
An electric car carrying all the weight and complexity of an ICEV such as DB engine , exhaust, transmission, or an ICEV carrying EV components such as batteries, inverter, BMS.
Some of us are attracted to complexity when there are better solutions. If for whatever reason a BEV doesn't work for you, there are plenty of reliable ICEVs out there. There are more things that can go wrong with a Hybrid vehicle than even an ICEV.
Hybrids were ok years ago when BEVs had short range and very expensive. Now, hybrids are obsolete.
A hybrid has all the maintenance of an ICE vehicle. BEVs have very little. It’s grossly inefficient to drag around a heavy engine with a tiny battery. Hybrid batteries only deliver 25-50 miles. Range is so short, owners often ignore to plug them in.