JOHANSSON, NHL TRADE MARKET, & BAD GMs - Winged Wheel Podcast - June 19th, 2024
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- What a wild day of trades and roster moves in the NHL.
Tune in as we start by discussing the Albert Johansson signing and what he could mean for the Detroit Red Wings roster, bolstering the blue line of Moritz Seider, Simon Edvinsson, Jake Walman, & others (4:10).
Next, we analyze the flurry of NHL roster moves and what they could mean for Steve Yzerman: San Jose picking up Goodrow, Markstrom being traded to New Jersey, Pierre-Luc Dubois traded for Darcy Kuemper, & more as they pertain to moving Holl's contract, trading for Gibson, or other moves to improve the team around Larkin, Raymond, DeBrincat, & others. (11:00).
Also, a note on Shayne Gostisbehere expecting to go to market (38:10) before we get into our 2024 NHL Draft Prospect Profile on Trevor Connelly (40:15).
After that, a Stanley Cup Final & Connor McDavid Conn Smythe update (52:20), Hronek's new big deal as compared to what Hockeytown gets in Axel Sandin Pellikka (1:02:10), & more before we take your questions and comments during our Overtime segment (1:03:40) - enjoy!
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The NMC for Markstrom probably didn't affect his value much. He's 34 going on 35 with two years left on his deal. He's been inconsistent the last couple of years for Calgary who has been a better defensive team.
Thinking he'd get much more than a 1st + young defensive defenseman is silly imo. He might not even be playing for the Devils by the time the pick is made by Calgary.
TLTR - As a Swede, I am not at all worried about Albert.
His Dad is Roger "Ragge" Johansson. Roger is perhaps best known for his fiery will and self-sacrificing playing style. Roger is not one of the most famous Swedish defenders we have had, however very useful in his team, a work horse. The saying is - The apple normally doesn't fall far from the tree.
Albert's new contract with RW is good as it gives both parties a chance to evaluate where they stand next year. Albert was taken in the second round in his draft year, which means his ceiling is probably not that high. As a fan, we need to understand that the demands cannot be set too high there, give him time to adapt and mature. Advantage is that he is still young and developable as time is something RW has a lot of. Let's not forget that even Peter the Great was a "late bloomer" after all.
However, the floor of Albert is very solid when it comes to his overall skills. What stands out to me is his IQ, very good skater and two-way defender. He obviously has more tools than these, however, this is what I think he was drafted for because his fundamentals are solid overall.
Comparing him with Maatta is not entirely wrong as there are similarities. If Albert reaches that minimum level, I'm happy as a "draft pick". However, I think there is more to squeeze out of Albert. Not saying he'll be a RW top 4 defender here, but more so than Maatta. I like Maatta, so nothing negative about his career so far.
Everything will probably be about what Albert is willing to sacrifice in order to reach the next step. Which translates to his focus being mostly purely mental work and this is where his father's dnd comes into play. The Johansson family is a hockey family, Albert's brothers also play at a lower level than Albert. Of the apples the tree produced, Albert is the best chance to reach the NHL.
I watched a number of Griffins games this year and most of the time he would really go unnoticed, "which is a really good thing". He made simple plays to move the puck or retrieve it from the corner. He will be a very good defensive upgrade over Petry or Ghost, these two constantly made defensive mistakes and watched the puck go into the back of their net. Albert will be a defense upgrade for the bottom pair and killing penalties.
Hope Johansson doesn't get buried as the 7th D, even if he makes some mistakes here and there. I'd rather have a learning prospect making mistakes than a 36 year old vet making mistakes (no names)
Unfortunately I believe he is only going to be a 7th Defenseman.
@@aaronrasalhagueforever3311 We'll never know if we keep him buried though!
@@StickinAroundHockey Can always hope, havnt seen it in GR though. Average player
Keep up the good work fellas! #LGRW
New poker game lighting on the set 😂
kinda seedy huh!🤣
You guys heard it hear first, Brad likes those stiff sticks.
Calgary handled the Markstrom situation terribly
36:18
Brad: "He's not quite an 80's baby."
Me: ::wretches from how old I feel::
i like watchin these long vids. You guys are the best! Thank You!
If PLD can get traded, we can trade Holl. Any contract can be moved, so let's get it done.
Great episode fellas!
“Yzerman is a big character guy” if you ignore Hanas, Greiss, and Kane being in the organization at various points
I'm all for bringing in Gibson, but Husso has to be attached to the deal. Too much money tied up in an often injured goalie.
Elvis Merzļikins is just as good and is about a million dollars cheaper
@Tyler-ml6ip I'd be happy with either as long as husso is tied into the deal. Only difference is Elvis has 3 years left on his deal which could postpone cossa taking over the net.
Both have three years left @@mattl2642
25:45 Ryan, what was that? Joke - cut - laughing - cut - moving on. It was a little unnerving. haha
Ryan's own canned laughter
I would love to sit with y'all looking at video of prospects to see where I'm missing things. Sennecke and Connelly were last on my list of those I thought would be there before I knew about Connelly's issues.
I agree New Jersey takes a playoff spot, Washington is so much younger and faster in the last year,your underestimating their prospects, which most will make the roster this summer. Maybe Ryan Leonard joins as well. PLD May work out because he won’t be on the fourth line like LA , he will likely get 70 points just on big minutes on 1st line .and get the caps a center in his prime.
The Connelly kid deserves a chance and if available at 15 they should afford him that. We ALL have stuff that happened in our youth that we'd do over. You think Probert or Tie Domi were saints growing up?
Please EXPLAIN how and WHY the CAPS did this trade taking on Dubois ???
Albert is better than Forsling at this stage of career.
Fans and Local Media rush players way too fast.
Devils weren’t making a run anyway even if they made it with how shitty they looked. The issues ran beyond the goaltending. So not “saving the season” just to get their shit packed in by the Rangers or Canes and instead ending up with the 10OA pick is a much preferred option.
Hage or eiserman
I think Washington getting PLD is enough to confirm they’re fully entering rebuild and just taking on the contract to have some occupied cap space. PLD probably just finishes up an uneventful career on one of the worst teams in the league. Ovi will catch the record and they’ll have 0 reason to not fully tank year after year until PLD is gone.
Can you guys go through a podcast without a million awkward cuts?
6+ mill for gost😂 ya ciaoooooo
Okay I think you guys are way over estimating how much we need to pay someone to get rid of holls contract. At 3 million for 2 more years, that is 2.3 million LESS than Marc Staal in 2021, who did admittedly play in ~20 more games than holl and was better at the time, but not 2.3 million better. All the red wings got was a 2nd round pick and gave nothing in return.
So I think saying Holls contract price to get rid of him for nothing in return is a 2nd round pick or more when a long precedent of deals like this have happened under a more confined cap situation is way over estimating how much other GMs for bottom feeders would be asking for.
why is Holl's value so negative but Gibson's is so positive? the Ducks have been bad but Gibson's numbers are ugly for 3 years at over $6 million.
Screw all of you for talking ISH on Berggren
Gibson flipping sucks!
Does Yzerman care that much about character? Like Sprong was accused of beating a guy up in a nightclub last summer when he was 26, and I didn't hear a beep about that from Yzerman, much less them trying to nullify his contract due to a breach of a moral clause or something like that, which you would expect from someone that wants their players to be 'upstanding citizens of high moral character'. I don't see him minding one bit that Connelly was a bully/brat towards his teammates sometime when he was 13 or younger, as even the parents that alleges that said it seemed to stem from his competitiveness.
It was self defense in the nightclub
He also drafted Tony D'Angelo.
I'd much prefer they draft a guy with unquestionable skill and talent like Connelly than yet another offensively limited forward for the 3rd year in a row. They won't be picking towards the top of the board anymore and still don't have a lot of high end talent in the prospect pool, they need to start making picks with more potential upside even if the odds of it being a bust are higher. There should be at least a couple guys there for them at 15 to pick from, hopefully MBN isn't the guy they target.
@@user-fc2ob7yl3u What makes you say that?
@@jessecoonce1363 Exactly, got a whole team of 3rd line centers, time to take flyers, need offensive potential not another great all around player.
Larkin is a solid second line center