Comprehensive Column Speaker Comparison. JBL vs BOSE vs SubZero
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ธ.ค. 2019
- 13.34 Sound test.
I've literally used and tested every column speaker that is available on today's market. These are my favourite three. I picked these 3 as they all offer something different and are significantly better when compared to others of the same price bracket. I have used them all for recorded background music, bands in live settings, concert halls, voice and guitar, solo piano, theatres etc... Literally everything that someone might like to ask about. - ภาพยนตร์และแอนิเมชัน
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Great review, thank you man for sharing your experience and making this video!
very good. MORE COMPARISONS PLEASE ( LD, EV, RCF ETC ETC ) AND vocals also please. Looking forward to more comparisons. please.
İzlediğim en iyi incelemelerden biri, çalışmanız için teşekkür ederim, kolay gelsin.
In this test, the product that was most suitable for the purpose of use was JBL, followed by Subzero and Bose.
All sounds excellent bro.
Thanks very much for this exceptionally thorough and useful review revolving around real-world aspects! Wish you had included a song with some normal vocals in it so we could judge how natural each system sounds. My impression of the L1 has always been like yours - weird bass, piercing treble, and overly thin mids. The JBL also does something strange to the mids (I think the JBL signature sound more or less always scoops out certain mids), making it sound less authentic for singer/songwriter duos and the like. Sort of hollow. The SubZero is new to me, so would have loved to hear it with vocals. But now as bit of research will follow...
@@AngeloTsocosMusic Wow - that’s a sad fact. But thanks for trying, and for explaining.
Very good test.
I was in my local music store checking out the JBL and the store clerk hooked up a drum machine and had the volume cranked by accident and that thing rocked the building, blown away. My buddy has the Bose and it does sound nice but for volume that JBL is no joke
JBL is just better
Really informative! Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for taking the time to test the speakers.
For your next video can you try a more elaborate test song?
That test song had 1 bass note centered at 72Hz so we can't really say much about the speakers.
72Hz is up in the easy -to-hit boomy bass range that any speaker can hit so it's not testing too much.
Can the speaker hit above that note well at 1Khz equally or below it at 50Hz or 40Hz?
We can't tell since the source material had 1 main drum tone that dominated the sound spectrum.
That tone was louder making it harder to hear the midrange or treble clarity. It's a fine song but not ideal for speaker testing since we need some variety of tones.
We need a test song with multiple bass notes on different pitches with a variety of drums.
Then add some vocals that come and go as well. A single acoustic guitar doing single notes and a few arpeggiated chords mixed with a few full chords is also quite useful.
You could use that nice piano sitting there and simply play a few single test tones on C4, C3, C2 and low C1 or A1 and record how it sounds. Does it play each note at the same level?
Naturally that depends what the keyboard sends out but most units are fairly high fidelity and some can even do a real sine way output such as with Roland, Korg, and Yamaha synths.
Ideally a test song has portions with just vocals (high and clear), others with just drums and include some deep synth or bass guitar notes down in the deeper range that really tests the speaker somewhat.
72Hz on the current test track is not a challenge for most speakers and that's a note I almost try to avoid since it tends to sound boomy since that's the easiest note to hit. 72Hz is rather high and almost up into the male vocal range which can make a mix sound muddy.
72 is around a mid-bass D note.
An octave below that would be 37HZ and the song didn't have any of that on it. Or E, F, G etc
So, ideally select a test song has a range of bass notes and sounds.
See if the speaker can hit G at 50Hz, and a low E1 at 41Hz, D1 at 37Hz or C1 at 33Hz.
Some of those are too low for small systems like this and they simply won't do it or will do a 2nd harmonic 2x higher such as 66Hz instead of 33Hz since it can't do 33Hz. That's expected on small subs but it's still useful to see if the system hits all notes fairly equally within the range that it can do and we need to give it a fair audio signal to work with.
Manufacturers often design small subs too boomy since that lets them get louder even though it sounds kinda bad. As a result it's pretty hard to find a fairly accurate small sub.
One of the few that can hit almost all bass notes equally is the Bose Sub1 or Sub2 but that's at a higher price point a bit larger.
I have hundreds of songs and audio tracks from various synths and live bands and could make a test track if you wanted some. That would spans all the notes from 28Hz (low A) up to 20KHz and you could expand on your speaker test as an actual "Comprehensive speaker test".
Running a simple 10 second sine wave sweep from 200Hz down to 30Hz would also let your audience hear what's going on.
Run that at 80dBC, then at 90dBC volume and at 95dB too see how each one handles it.
Use full range C or Z weighted scale on a dB meter. Not dBA (A weighted) since that filters out the bass artificially.
Test tones with white noise displayed n a spectrum app is also useful.
Even on a cell phone mic would catch most of it. We need to test with white noise sometimes because the DSP on some speakers responds differently to wide spectrum sounds vs single tones and it changes the audio signal internally. Some add a lot of midrange or bass internally depending how it's set and programmed.
It's a good idea to pick up a calibrated mic for a cell phone such as a Dayton Audio iMM-6, or a UMIK-1 mic for a PC and run that with REQ (room EQ Wizard) software.
That will show the THD (total harmonic distortion), real dB levels, room reflections, time delay and can do spectral analysys, phase and many thiings if we want to really see what's going on with speakers.
That software can also make test tones, test sweep tones, white noise etc.
REQ is free, open source software and works well.
Really great informative video! I have looked at the SubZero non battery equivalent to the one in your presentation and, it appears, not only is it minus the battery it's also minus a lot of other stuff on the mixer too! Can the Battery version also run direct from the mains or is it just charge and go?
Hi I’ve just ordered the subzero l401x I’m a solo artist using a loop effects with a guitar . Not seen many reviews on this system but the package comes with 2 units. How do you contact to a mixer and have I made the wrong choice of product?
For me as a classical trained musician, the balance between high, mid & low frequencies is best on the Bose system. For a clear reproduction of piano, guitar & vocal it is Bose I would choose. The others you tested are very bassy and better for DJ - ing indeed.
Absolutely - and by a country mile in terms of clarity of sound. The others were Muddy
BTW, Thanks for this review. Ok, these are 1) compact and 2) battery operated, no need for AC, but now we need to bring another piece of gear (mixer), and we also need to find AC to plug it into? Might as well just get an AC system, no?
I do like the Bose. I've not used the compact version, but I've been using the original L1 version which I've found to be excellent for flute, keys and upright bass. Great clarity of sound.
I understand it the room and not the people. If you were doing JUST vocals say for speech would you still buy two? Im an auctioneer and looking for a system (Prefer Battery power) for benefit auctions where they dont have sound. Some dont have power. I dont need a ton of woofer just vocal clarity and ease of set up as we dont generally have luxury of preset ups. Just show up and go. I have had house systems go down before because often the event people really arent prepared and know nothing of sound systems. I always carry a portable hailer with me but it sounds like a old farm auction them. Any advice is greatly appreciated.
Hi nice video what is the exact model of the SubZero,you don't say which model it is
whats best for keyboard/piano? would you still go with jbl?
Could you please tell me what the website for Subzero is? I want to compare all their models and also find out where I could buy one in Spain. Thank you very much!!
Gear4music
Hiya , brilliant video . What is the little Bluetooth gadget you talked about to extend distance . Bought on Amazon you said . Could you share the link ?
If you type in ‘bluetooth adapter 3.5mm jack’ you will find a huge selection of what you are looking for.
What’s the model number for the subzero I don’t know much of these brand, but I had a battery speaker 6.5” and had like15-25watts it was compact but had to take a mixer w me always and only useful for indoors
I saw I live in U.S and they are sold only in U.K I don’t think I could buy it
I bet this is available in the U.S under a different brand name. It's make in China so chances are every country will have it in some form or other.
the brilliance of the sounds is better on Bose l1 speakers
The Bose L1 Compact is not designed as a DJ amp. It is perfect for singer/songwriters. I use it fronting a jazz band and it works great. I have no issue with missing mids. As in the mids are there. I use the Bose ToneMatch mixer which is the perfect companion. The subzero appears to have no top end at all.
What does the rever sound like for vocal
I have the EON ONE, and the Bose Pro 32s with Sub 2's
The JBL is a great speaker, the Bose 32s are SICK lol
Thanks for the info... you may have sold me on th jbl
I went with the JBL. I would worry about the column sticking out on any system.
Did you get to the bottom of the internal vibration in the Subzero? Am thinking of getting one but that would be very annoying
Yes it was where the internal battery was slightly loose.
Interestingly is not a word. As far as the high-frequency A ray there's a lot more than just the way that they face. They're actually phased in a way That your audience will hear it no matter where they're standing
For EON ONE PRO, Which subwoofer is the best use with it?
@@AngeloTsocosMusic
The Mackie Woofer is $645 and Eon One Pro is $799, I think i will get 2 Eon One Pro
I'm really confused, Angelo. Your description of the SubZero seemed perfect for my busking needs, but I've never even HEARD of this brand before!! When it sounds much better than the Bose equivalent, and seems to have a superior mixing board as well, why do you think this speaker is never talked about, ANYWHERE???
its because its by Gear4music, its their own brand, hence they can produce it cheaper and you are not paying for the name.
Ya it's clear sounds and woofing JBL only..good compatition.
It seems as this may not be a good comparison of these speakers, for they are NOT designed for DJ mixing, rather for combining live music and vocals. The Bose works fine alone, but it works BEST with its "TuneCore" technology. When used without that additional device, it seems to basically be a PA system as opposed to a DJ- gig set up. For example it works and sounds great for vocals etc. in a Karaoke environment. Therefore all these speakers seem to be for live vocals and live music. NOT DJ with heavy bass IMHO. Thanks for the comparison.
So this video is for people who have used these live during the wedding ceremony and then again for the band and then wish to DJ in between sets. Therefore, demonstrating to people that may wish to see if they can do a whole wedding day with only one set of speakers. Did you realise this is the second video in the series. I did a live comparison of instruments and voice and got so many request to do a follow up DJ comparison I did. I never get in the way of what people think but I am sure that these 3 PAs are advertised as being. I have used the Bose with the Tone Match but was never impressed. Even after reviewing it for many shops almost all staff members agreed that if you are used to setting up an advanced mixer yourself you will get a better sound that way.
@@AngeloTsocosMusic Thank you very much for your reply. Much appreciated. I did not realize you had an initial video regarding these. I own a set of the L1's and am grateful for the additional information you shared regarding the Tone Match. I was repeating what the Salesman had told me regarding the Bose Technology.
I use and advanced mixer. Have not used them for a live band. I use my pair in between live music sets. And also for 2/12 hour continuous sets, using separate mixer with Computer and/or CD's. The most important concept I could share, is prior to signing or agreeing to a venue, ask if you can prep the system first, to get good sound and balance. One has to determine how to distance the speakers correctly, and sample the sound in the room. I also learned to set the sound level a bit lower than usual, Cruze the room...( if one is possible or ask someone to do so) to assess the sound mix. Thank you very much for your informed response a hard work in sharing comparisons. Personally, I would not use the L1 series for dance music; JBL's rock the house great for EDM/ Pop dance music. I agree the bass is not strong enough on the L1's. Perhaps these are designed as you said for live music, and/ or lyrical music. All the best, and thanks again.
@@djmarie2058 Thanks for your reply. Made for a really interesting read. Many thanks and all the best!
Bose wins for me
For me it's the Bose👍
Did you flick the bass output switch on the Bose?
Bose L1 'compact' doesn't have one. :)
I really like the Bose ☺️ beautiful sound
I'm already using a Bose , I play keys n vocals through a loop station , I'm considering getting a sub zero , battery , for outdoor work & indoors I 'd like to run both Bose & sub zero in stereo . I had a Maui 5 , but it didn't match with the Bose. JBL now do a pro version with battery , should match up with the Bose . ? any thoughts . I would say your video is very very helpful.
I am a big fan of JBL and if you want top quality sound then the newer JBL is the correct choice. Personally I use the subzero batter for small outdoor events and it works really well
Evolve is the best sounding line array. I've looked into all of these and EV was the best sounding and had superior construction.
Bose killed it. Sub Zero have a hard bass but not too much of quality in it. JBL bass is punchy and deep. But my take is Bose the winner
Gotta love Bose :)
A major problem. There no bass mid treble for the phone .backing tracks. U cannot adjust nothing
Bose kills it 😍
Having looked at the Audiophony Mojo 500 Liberty and compared it to the Subzero They are identical save decals etc. Must be a Chinese factory producing them all under the same roof. Good news though - the subzero is much cheaper than the Audiophony.
Angelo Tsocos : Terratec have them in the UK - but thanks for confirming what I thought.
Great review by the way. Do you think the Subzero (Audiophony!) would be ok for busking (piano using battery Juno es) and vocal?
Who makes the sub zero? Can't find online.
gear4music
With my human ear, I regard the connected instrument, the microphone. And the music that I listen to in everyday life, I'm giving up on Bose first, and the JBL produces a good low end but just in time for parties that don't give the details of the music piece. As for the last one for the Subzero, the bass and mids were pierced until the parts were missing. Treble is not good.
I would wish Bose l1 compact
So there’s only one column speaker in the SubZero and the others are just fake?
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what is the tittle of the music?
I just use free non copyright music and that was the title it had from the official TH-cam selection list.
In america where can buy the Subzero one ?
Thank but with the shipping it will be too expensive
At 16:40 when you state the rattle in the speaker. Do you mean it's rattling so bad it feels like it's going to fall apart and it's creating poor sound because of the rattle
I was thinking of buying a pair of subzero l410x but worried a bit now after you mention the rattling and build quality
Id like to see you opinion on the Yamaha stagepass 1k
i'd prefer to _hear_ his opinion
@@brightpincher hahha
As you pointed out, Soundwise The JBL is king here. Great Job JBL.
I think the quality behind bose is they compress frequency range for our eardrums feel easiness to Picking up every single frequency's.. 20 to 20 k frequency range is give overload to eardrum & brain..
Bravo - I like the fact that you're doing a comparison but I must say that when you played music through them, my first thought was i'll just come back when you do the one for the "grown ups" !! You actually were doing a bottom end comparison? You could just get a couple 18" inch speakers and be done with it ! I know I sound a bit snarky and I also know the demands of today's "teeny boppers" at a high school DJ gig. So, power on and I'm just glad I don't have to deal with that any more ;-) If you have the $ check out the new QSC stuff.
❣️JBL ❣️
clear highs on the Bose
BOSE is the BOSS
clear sound but cheap power , I would have liked to integrate my jbl eon 615 system with the column but it's really too ugly sub , I preferred Yamaha stagepas 1k , the Bose expensive for be so weak and subzero ' s not at livel
Pardon my ignorance, but aren't these things supposed to be "mixer-free?" You mention many times, "When used with a mixer...."
Yeh you can use them without a mixer but when most people test them they link them all through a mixer so that you can switch from one to another quickly. Also, a good quality external mixer will make these sound even better as they will keep the sound as true as possible from what you are putting in.
Jbl 😎
We aren’t hearing the bass correctly because you didn’t hook up direct outs.Sub Zero is stereo out XLR? That’s what you meant? Why no wobble test on the SZ and Bose (you are right about skimpy midrange over the years). And yes, power on JBL bottom superior. But the subzero had the worst bottom at least in that room. I want to hear if the Porsche Design is worth the $4K. Please next time a more universally known piece of music.
Hi, I kept it fair by using the intended outs that each unit recommends ion the manual. Sorry you can only select from the official TH-cam list otherwise the video is not allowed. I actually did more of these but TH-cam took down all the others due to copyright because I used a more universally known piece. Sad times :(
Bose is like Harley Davison motorcycles. You get bare bones for a super high price, but quality.
But you have to pay for any extras that all the others already have separately.
So true. That’s a great comparison!
But u can only plug one mic in the boss so usless
JBL has got a clearer sound.
jbl👍 bose,,ok ,sub zéro (bass distorsion) on real its différent😉
Bose always
Bose...... the best.
Bose is always the best
*BAD NEWS AMERICANS:* I just tried to purchase the SubZero column speaker, and finally found it... in Ireland. I could hardly believe how much better the specs on this speaker BLEW AWAY their US competitors, in every conceivable way. I immediately ordered the Lithium battery-operated model, and it had bigger tweeters than anything else on the market, a 2-year guarantee, AND the price was only $560. US!!! Then came the "bad news." BECAUSE OF THE LITHIUM BATTERIES, THEY CAN'T SHIP IT TO THE USA. Talk about disappointment??? This sucks, HARD.
This is one more reason I would like these sorts of things to use removable batteries. (Can remove from devices to ship AND replace just the battery if/when it fails)
I think all these speakers are a step back from the technology 10-15yrs ago. They sound too stale, but given its portability and line array technology, Ill give it a pass. Check out this Roland AC-90 from 2008, without a true subwoofer and it still sound phenominal. Once you add a subwoofer, the sound is massive, clear and full. Only downfall is that its not a line array so if you are out of the range, the sound loses a bit of clarity. Otherwise, on a straight sound test, it blows away all the newer speakers regardless if used for mp3 playback or live performance. Dont let the acoustic speaker lable fool you. It does everything well! th-cam.com/video/IqGiPETjpLA/w-d-xo.html
I use a Roland AC-90 with a Roland KCW-1 subwoofer. You reckon I should just stick with that then?
@@courteaux Thanks for replying, sorry I am slow to respond and check my messages.
The overall sound depends on your preference,need and size of the venue your using it for.
My preference is clarity with nice deep sub(woofer) lows with a touch of bass(woofer). The AC90 does pretty well from my experience.
I own QSC K12.2 and Bose F1 subs and speaker. Those are definitely louder but to my ears, not that pleasing as the AC90.
The AC90 won’t be loud enough for a outdoor gig unless it’s for a smaller event.
I recently used the AC90 for an outdoor event and I found out that it works better for vocals and acoustic guitars because the music dispersion loudness and range is not that great being an acoustic speaker.
I tested it against a JBL party box 200 and the party box had much stronger music dispersion and better dynamics.
But for vocals, the party box was muddy so we used the AC90 and it made the singers sound pristine. It blended well with the party box.
But the JBL twice as large & heavy
Bose is the best
Jbl is by far the best.
Jbl listens more clear
You are talented audio technician...how about mic'ing yourself up.
I have tried the Sub Zero and the sound is horrible. The highs are harsh and unpleasant. I wouldn’t use the Sub zeros in any situation
The reverb in the JBL prxone is unusable.its nothing more than a cheep $20 guitar amplifier absolutely pathetic and cannot even plug in a separate reverb unit cos there is no return &send. We are so disappointed we would not recommend the jbl prxone to anyone.and notice they never demo with a mic with the reverb.
This is the JBL EON ONE and not the prxone you mention. The EON ONE has excellent reverb and I regularly use it for my professional gigs. I've also used a reverb pedal with it and you don't need a send and return as you can go mic to pedal to unit and only use 1 port that doesn't affect the whole amp. Works a treat.