Portability or Performance? Don't compromise! - Bose L1 Pro16 Review & Guide
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- The original L1 speaker system was a revolution back in 2003 when Bose first revealed the modular line array PA system. Now in 2020, Bose have redesigned this popular system from the ground up with innovative features such as an oval Race Track subwoofer and inbuilt Tone Match mixer. Today we take a look at the Pro16 model which sits in the middle of the range, aiming to provide the perfect blend of power and portability!
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Great honest review. I'm totally surprised Bose doesn't have a stereo-matching feature. I can pair two blue tooth speakers from my phone and run them as one. You'd think Bose would have figured this out.
It's a ridiculous limitation but then again my Evolve 30Ms have the same limitation and you need an actual XLR cable in order to use 2 speakers for stereo Bluetooth operation.
Thank you so much for your review. We are a small cover band with all DI instruments (guitar, base, electronic drums) and microphones. We are looking to upgrade our 100W entry level PA to something portable and higher quality. I've always been a Bose fan and have had a Bose Home Theater 12 system that is still amazing after 25 years. I just had a listen to the L1 Pro 8 at my local Guitar Center, and I believe that the Pro 16 (or a pair of them eventually) will be a perfect system for our band.
7 foot tall on a standard floor? so you have 1 foot of speakers 3-4 drivers shoot out over the crowd? seems a shame vs a typical crowd....lot of wasted sound!
Well except that it is barely pitched forward so that the 7ft part throws to the people in the back otherwise all the high frequency would be soaked up by the people in front of it if it was only 5 foot tall or so.
Purchased two BOSE L1 Pro 16 units. The instructions state it must be updated before it is used. Why it doesn't come updated from the factory is beyond me. The first one updated just fine. The second unit failed to connect. Hours upon hours of trouble shooting, I called BOSE support and they advised me to take it back. Took it back to Guitar Center and came home with a replacement. BOOM! Nothing. Same issue as the last one. Called BOSE support again and they said they would get back to me "within a few days." Took that one back today and received yet a third replacement. This one also fails to update but on top of that, the lighting on the mixer is sketchy and appears to have got past QA. When I return this one, it will be my 4th unit. I am 1/2 tempted to just return both and be done with it. When you shell out this kind of coin for an item, it should work right out the box, no questions asked. What a disappointment.
They could not even add a mid control .there cutting to many corners
It’s intentional, so you buy the t1 tone match device eq for 800$
How did you connect two of them side by side? did you use a T4s tonematch? or can you use any mixer? such as a yamaha Mg06x?
You can use any mixer but you can also connect two directly. Pity that you can't control them together in the app.
Mmm, yeah, very nice. What's it sound like is the question?
Thank you for the very detailed review! I have an L1 Pro8 and would like to add a second unit (I have a big space!) but only if I can get stereo sound. Is that possible now with these units? Had there been a firmware update to allow this? It seems like such a basic option.
Each speaker unit is mono but to achieve stereo you would wire the left channel to one setup and the right channel to the other. So for example, your Pro 8 would be left and this Pro 16 could be right. Then just place them in different corners of the room and you've got it :)
Thank you for the reply@@Crossfader! That type of set up wouldn’t work in a Bluetooth streaming set-up though, which is one of the situations I’d like to be able to listen in stereo (I wasn’t real specific when I asked my question 😊).
If your source is stereo, with a second L1 Pro8, you should be able to have your sound produced in stereo
I bought one of these and used it in place of an 18” EV sub and two Elx 12” tops and I received so many compliments on the sound. This is for an event I do regularly with regular attendees who absolutely noticed. So for small to medium sized venues…this thing is amazing!
Would it cut the mustard for a crowd of 175?
@@OisinMcGrath1916 it would work for 175 wedding with 24x24 dance floor (depending on size/layout of room). For 175 dancing, I’d use two 16s or a pro32.
I just picked one up yesterday and I was surprised how good it sounded for how light it was. The coverage was way better than my QSC speakers. The 180 degrees is no joke. There are better sounding speakers at this price point... but not better sounding speakers in this weight category. As a mobile DJ, I will def pay more for convenience... and my back thanked me.
What is a more precise definition of, “…small to medium sized event…”? 15 people in a seated, non-talk environment? (Coffee shop). 50 dancing fools @ a wedding venue?
*serious inquiry*
Very disappointing that you haven't mentioned the serious design defect of that cheap and nasty plastic connector unit, or more importantly, the fact it means the speaker towers have a very loose fit that causes the towers to sway with little to no provocation. No professional DJ worth their salt would want to risk these at a professional gig, and for Bose to have made such a fundamental mistake at such a high price point smacks, frankly, of incompetence.. Several DJs have published reviews explaining that they've returned their systems because of this "schoolboy error" of design and for you to ignore it (you can see how loose the fitting is even in your video) is very strange and misleads potential purchasers. Interestingly, the editor of a lUK mobilel DJ magazine who has enthusuastically reviewed the Pro 8 (different design) and will be reviewing the Pro 32 (again, different design) has been told by Bose that it's pointless to review the Pro 16 because "It's not a good match for DJs"!!!!! This smacks of artifice and wanting to hide the issue, just as you have done in your review. After all this is a model that they specifically mention as being tailored for DJs in their promotional video! I smell a huge rat and anybody (like me) who loves the Bose sound and elegant design and was therefore considering this model should thoroughly investigate this unit's "wobbliness" at any store that has demo models, or more realistically just pretend it doesn't exist and buy the smaller and weaker sounding Pro 8 or the way more expensive Pro 32.
So very well said Ian, I applaud your comment sir 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
No reply from crossfader... that itself speaks volumes
Yes, well said. I saw one of these get snapped in half last month by a drunk who lost his balance and tripped into this column. The performer was heartbroken. The Show ended 30 minutes into the night!
I was going to buy one through zZounds. I guess now I’m buying it from Amazon with 4 year accident protection. Problem solved. Just throw more money at it the problem? 😂 lol
Absolute nonsense, there are some people making an issue out of something that doesn’t exist. At worse there is a slight sway which in no way dangerous, unstable or insecure and to be clear all line array speakers from other brands also sway. There is nothing wrong with the plastic spacer, making an issue of the space being made of plastic is such and boomer comment and shows no understanding of plastics and its structural integrity.
If the edge case that is used to hype up the tower sway is to be taken literally then having a speaker on a pole with a tripod spread all over the floor and spaghetti cabling isn’t more dangerous then your living in an alternate reality
Macro…completely agree, been using this for live gigs, in bars, a drunk knocking over your system is is a concern with any system. I have no issues with this at all.
I use a tonematch 4s mixer at my school and it will appear that in design Bose wanted this to be used with a tonematch mixer. So if using a pair then the tone match would set BOTH speakers and also the tonematch mixer has two tonematch outputs. One for the right speaker and one for the left. Using the app seems to be for solo musicians.
Great video by the way. Very informative
How does it compare to the l1 compact as far as volume and venue size capability goes?
SORRY BUT THE BASE UNIT DOES NOT COME WITH THE SLIP COVER AS YOU MENTIONED IN THE VIDEO; IT NEEDS TO BE PURCHASED SEPARATELY
30:40 is expensive but you're paying for the brand name... 😂
I will use stickers if i only care the brand. 🤣🤣🤣
I bought two pro 8s tower failure right out of the box and so unsteady tower my experience
Would you think this would work for a bluegrass band? Inside or outside?
Hi, I am a solo acoustic performer, running vocals and acoustic guitar, along with my loop pedal. I recently purchased a pro 16. The Outdoor the sound is incredible, couldn’t be happier….
however in a loud party room with no more than 100 people, I crank the volume up and the sound becomes weirdly muddy, almost distorted and feels like it’s sending more of the sound to the subwoofer. I have messed around with lowering the bass to almost as low as it can go and I can’t get rid of the muddy bass-like sound at high volumes. Any one else had this issue or any experts able to offer me advice? Is it possible I have a faulty product or do I just need to work on my EQing?? Thanks
Jesus that’s a worry, I’m planning on buying one for the exact same dynamic. Did you figure out a fix?
Very well done review Sir :)
For the amount it costs, this system should have come with at least two more mic/instrument inputs. The JBL PRX1, RCF EVOX JMIX8 and and EV Evolve 50M are all equipped with more inputs and mixers that are controllable via their respective apps. Bose are no longer the only kid in town in this regard and face some stiff competition.
Sounds better then all of them. I did a sound demo against all of them , ended up buying it
@@renerodriguez1876 thanks for the reply. How does the Bose sound better than the others?
@@madness8556 the clarity and bass you get with the Bose is better
@@madness8556 but everyone has a different sound preference, I’d say try and go listen to them
@@renerodriguez1876 easier said than done when you live under the toughest Covid communism lockdown restrictions in the world.
Can I hook up 3 wireless microphones to this
If you add a mixer, then yes but if you only buy one unit it comes with 2 balanced chanels (XLR) and one TRS (1/4)
Thank you for this review.
One small thing. As far as I know Bose does not include a sleeve for the sub. If I'm wrong I'd be happy, since I'm seriously thinking of buying the 16 and would expect a cover to be included.
It comes with a cover just not a padded cover
Well, mine didn't come with any cover. May be Bose stopped including it. The cover they sell for $55 is very basic and doesn't protect the unit much.
The line aray is wobbly they should of kept with the Idea of the L1 compact so the top half slides into the front of the base it's the reason I will not upgrade from my L1 compact
Hi, I just picked one up yesterday and I think Bose must have changed the design. It was not wobbly at all. I was looking at aftermarket gaskets before I got it. But, I guess I don't need to order them anymore.
Can you wirelessly connect 2 of these together? Let's say I have a house party gig and they want 1 speaker indoor and 1 speaker outdoor, is there a way for them to wirelessly connect without having to run cables between them?
WORST bag ever and its not included $55 each and they feel like a piece of paper Horrible for a 2 thousand dollar speaker! SHAME ON YOU BOSE.
What are those standing lights that are at 3:40?
Following
Equinox Spectrapix Batten
How does this sound compared to the L1 Model 2 with b2?!
I want to know this as well
Thanks for this review. I have the Bose L1 Pro16. Can you explain what the lights in the control knobs for treble and bass do (for the 3 channels)?
You have the option of just the top 12 o''clock light on, called "neutral". Does that mean no processing is done, like "0" on a standard guitar amp? You can also have the right-hand lights on from 12 o'clock to 5 o'clock simultaneously (by turning the control knob clockwise). Does that mean 'add treble in larger amounts from 12 to 5'? How about the meaning of the left-hand side, lighting the lights from 12 o'clock to 7 o'clock, turning the control knob counterclockwise. Does that "take away" treble in some way?
Thanks!
I think bose is made in china now
2nd --let's keep it goin 💯
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You cracked me up. Brilliant.
Hi ! My L1 Pro 16 makes a buzzing noise even with no input connected. The noise only comes when inputs 1 and 2 are unmuted. I changed power source, used surge protector but no fix. Can you check if yours make the same noise? Noise started when volume is increased beyond 4 Led levels on input 1 and 2.
Do u no bose & mashall are made in China now. So u can expect poor quality. And will break in a short period of time.just like greatwall cars every thing they make. China should be band from selling. Every thing they put there hands on breaks
He not mention how week the top is. Like it moves in the wind like a rubber band .pathetic
Hi, I just bought a pro 16 yesterday and it does not wobble a all. I saw that on other reviews that were older like this one . But, I think Bose changed the design since they first released it because it is super snug. I was pretty surprised. I was looking online at aftermarket gaskets before I picked it up. Guess I don't need it anymore!
BOSE YOU SHOULD FIRE THE PEOPLE DESIGN THIS CHEAP L1!!! AND YOU CALL THIS L1 PRO!!! YOU SHOULD CALL THIS L1 PLASTIC CHEAP GARBAGE!!!
I am unable to mute the reverb on the iPhone app. I can mute the reverb on the speaker by holding the button till the reverb flashes. Not so on the app. any suggestions?
It seems expensive since I need the T1 Tonematch mixer. Thank you for your review it cleared up the L1 family lineage.
Anytime at all :)
Anyone used this with an external mixer like a midas xr18? and if so which channel did you use?
my bose l1 pro16 did not came with subwoofer cover. i called bose did not do anything they just say go back to the store where i bought it
Having the original L1 I can confirm that even that thing is amazing. Can only imagine what the new ones are like.
I have both and I love my Pro16.
Hi ! My L1 Pro 16 makes a buzzing noise even with no input connected. The noise only comes when inputs 1 and 2 are unmuted. I changed power source, used surge protector but no fix. Can you check if yours make the same noise? Noise started when volume is increased beyond 4 Led levels on input 1 and 2.
3:46.....I though the sub cover wasn't included included???
You have nothing to say about the quality of the speaker connections. I looked at the system and the plastic parts on top are not fixed and you can move it back and forth.
What exactly are the connections made of?
Did you have any issues with the extension tube being plastic? On one of the only other reviews currently out there, the reviewer apparently sent his back due to several issues one being that the extension tube was poorly made and did not provide solid support for the metal upper speaker array. I am not certain I would ever use the extension since it only adds about a foot of elevation. On my L1 Compact, I typically use both of the extensions but the speaker array is much smaller and seems sturdy even after 5 years.
That’s a crucial point missing in this review. This review sounds like a perfect pa, which is not.
Indeed....I did not like the extension plastic tube as it made the column wobbly. In a big room you need it, to project the sound to those who are further at the back
@@Roland6596 thanks for the additional information.
Thanks! Been waiting for a non-Bose review of the Pro 16 since it was announced a few weeks ago. I am looking forward to hearing one in person.
I had to send my system back. I made a 3 part review of why here... th-cam.com/video/QWJbGgtwCcg/w-d-xo.html
can't seem to find anywhere on you tube or anywhere else how to connect Bose L1 pro 8 to bose new tonematch 4
Great video. Question: What are those 4 stand up lights you have in your set up?
I just got mine but it didn’t come worth a bag for the subwoofer??
Not only that! You should be able to decide which is left and right!!!
I just bought from sweet water- no bass cover included 😮
so thirty minutes of talk and no sound test....ok, i believe you.
Absolutely zero point in playing a speaker of this size through our recording mic. You would have nothing to compare it to and would sound horrendous. I recommend you go to a local store and listen to speakers in person, no recording of the speaker will ever give you a good representation.
Sound tests over video make no sense. If you record with this different mics it would sound totally different. Record from two different points it would sound totally different. Record at two different levels and it makes your room sound different. That’s why he explains what it sounds like.
No sense and will sound horrendous but so we can see that you are hearing it. Easyer to trust 😜
I just bought one but have not received it yet. I hope I won't be disappointed. I don't like the wobbly column above the sub woofer
What are those 4 stand up lights you have in your set up?? I want to get some of those but can’t find them..
I have heard it ! It sounds amazing! However? The sub woofer is way out of control and is very hard to control 😞
Can you do a comparison of the Bose L1 Compact and the JBL Eon One PRO?
Can these handle crowds of 300 or more or what’s your opinion
Can you get buy with one system and not have to buy 2?
The power button is instant when turning on or off. It does not take a few seconds to do so as you said
Wobbling problems with the column. 3 inch sway no matter how hard you push down on it.
Very true! I am surprised that Bose did not have a quality control test on that
YES....Dreadful build quality. I'm sticking with my old model II, staying clear of this TOY
Why do some UK accents, where English originated, not pronounce some key sounds properly? Every time I hear "bluetoof" or any other word where the "th" has been replaced with "f", I want to smack the host.
You be'ah not tryn smack Keef Richards, innit?
Should i upgrade my EV Evolve 50 to this?
We're going to do some back to back testing in the new year when restrictions allow us to do so!
@@Crossfader Sounds great!
@@Crossfader nearly all musicians have " soundproof studio "
Just test it out in your studio. That's all. No need of police permission.
I got Bose Sound Revolve..best 200 bucks I've never spent
Great review, I have a client wishing to set up a mobile Karaoke system, how do you think this system would perform in that environment?
I have the EV 50s and very interested in this pose L1 16 thank you for the review
Sounds good in concept but I've always struggled with the bose sound.
I’ve found the sound excellent, but build quality questionable. Upon reading reviews
Ah-loom-min-num but good video lol
How does it compare to the soundboks in sound level and quality of sound?
Great video as always! I have a pair of rcf 8 v2, do you think I should upgrade?
Damn, 30+ minutes and all for a speaker. It must be good.
considering its $1800 USD and probably needs a ToneMatch later... I'm ok with investign 30 mins of time before spending the money. ha
I just bought it. It sounds amazing
I'm just looking to replace my shelf system, I just Want a clean clear powerful sound and bass. Would this still be recommended? I don't care for the extra features it's just for my home, I'd use the Bluetooth that's all.
Thank you.
Hi, i have an older L1 system myself. In my opinion for a livingroom like application this is way to powerful. It is meant for weddings or small to medium parties. By the time you get all the bass out if it, it will kill your eardrums. If you do not plan on using it somewhere else i highly recommend something smaller. The SoundTouch series from bose are excellent and sound superb.
Nice and thorough review!
Would you go with two L1Pro8 or one L1Pro16 for DJing in a 1000 sqft dance floor?
1 Bose L1 Pro32 with dual sub2
evolve 50 better for techno?
NICE,,,, I WONDER PROBABLY NICE IF BOSE MAKE IT AS AN ADJUSTABLE CONVEX T-BAR STYLE SO YOU CAN PUT LED PAR LIGHTS AND LASERS AS THIS IS LOTS OF KARAOKE APPLICATION , MEETINGG AND CONFERENCE ROOM WEDDING AND GUITARIST AND PORTABLE DJS AND YOU SHOULD KNOW WELL FROM EXPERIENCE
Bose won’t make it easy for you to mount other things on their speaker. If they made it and someone accidentally tipped the speaker and lights over and hurt someone, people would sue Bose. Bose avoids chances of that.
@@NathanNagel I HAVE 8 PCS OF 802S AND I CAN MOUND LASER MOVING HEADS AND LEDS AS ITS MOUNTABLE ON JBL SUBWOOFERS ITS AWESOME AND L1 ARE SMALL NOT STRONG ENOUGH FOR PA RMS POWERSSSS ONLY GOOD FOR SMALL FUNCTIONS SO PREFER THE HIGH END NOT THE CHEAP ENDS
But the bigger Pro32. With the Sub 2. You can mount a speaker stand on it like you do with JBL Subs
Is it enough for a living room?????
We'd say so!
GOOD SOUND!!! BUT!!! CHEAP PLASTIC DESIGN!!! FOR THE PRICE IS A RIPOFF!!!
Super strong and nice and light....its 2021
Great review!
I didn't receive the sub cover with mine.
Mine did not come with one either....pissed me off when you spend so much for it.
Fourth comment
What are those floor lights called that were setup in this video?
Equinox Spectra Pix
@@Crossfader thanks so much you guys are great with full of information!
Is this in mono sound?
1 speaker = mono
How does it compare to the Yamaha stagepas 1k?
Yamaha stagepass 1k is better for it’s price
Bose 16 destroys! …..The stage pass 1K and I’m a big Yamaha fan!
Hi there, how do recommend this for a house karaoke.
This speaker is great for home karaoke. The Sound is crystal clear and powerful. You need to get 2 of this and a mixers for stereo sound
PUT IT INFRONT OF YOUR WINDOWS SO NEIGHBORS CAN HEAR YOUR VOICE SPECIALLY WHEN ITS RAINING HARD !! OR INDA BATHROOM FOR PRACTICE
Does it have a master volume?
Each input channel has it's own volume but there is no overriding master control to limit all three at once
@@Crossfader That's really annoying for a performer. Once you get levels right for a good mix of each instrument/voice then you need to move all 3 dials the same anount to turn it up or down...unless you buy the additional T4S mixer. May be a dealbreaker for me. Whch is a shame because I love eveything else about it.
THE L1 COMPACT IS MUCH BY FAR STURDY!!! REALLY BOSE AFTER 17 YEARS YOU COME UP WITH THIS CHEAP DESIGN!!! DON'T YOU HAVE A BUDGET!!!
Its light great for hauling around.
First comment
All fine and good but let's hear the damn thing !
I have to play in front of 100 people in an outdoor place, what do you suggest between one vbose l1 pro 8 and one bose l1 pro 16? Thanks
5 watts per person. The 16 is 1250W
I just bought this Pro LI 16, and returned it after a week, not happy with it. I still love the Bose Acoustimas 10 Home Theater Speaker System, unfortunately they don’t make this anymore.
Can you explain why you are not happy with it ?, are you a DJ , I am looking to buy these and not sure (for wedding gig). Thanks
@@EricArbour-, don’t get me wrong it’s good, it depends on what you want to achieve. I love watching movies, so I want a surround sound system. We also used it a lot for a Karaoke party and it really sounds good. The Pro sounds where you sit it down only.
Do I need 2 for home karaoke setup?
One is great for karaoke but if you want stereo sound then you need 2 of it. Also it depends on how big your room is. My family room about 100 square feet and one of this shaking my windows when I play only 30 percent of the volume
@@letn123 Thank you! I tested L1 compact which is an older and smaller version, and it's very powerful. I don't feel the need of stereo for karaoke
@@truongle2381 this is definitely more powerful than an L1 compact. One would be plenty. The Pro8 is more powerful than the Compact.
Second comment
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Never been a fan of Bose. The clarity is excellent but the BASS is almost nonexistent.
Dollar for dollar my friends spent from $3000 to $5000 on home Theater systems from Bose. The surround was great while the BASS was again nonexistent.
I bought 2 Cerwin Vega XLS- 28’s, Cerwin Vega 900 Amp, one Stereo Receiver at $1800. This system shakes my house.
While Bose has the wide array of sound that is clear, you can get two 12” RCF Satellites with two 15” Subs with another 18” Sub for backup in big rooms for far less $$$$.
I always enjoy Crossfader reviews. You guys are great 👍!!!