I was a little nervous of carrying out the first oil change on my newly acquired, rare, OIF 1973 Triumph T120V*. However after watching and referring to your video it was a doddle. Thank you so much for taking the time and helping others like myself, who maybe aren't the most confident when attempting such jobs. All done now and after a long ride, all's well and not a leak from anywhere. THANKS! *Identical to T140V apart from slightly different drain plug on Primary Chain Case.
Thanks for the great instruction video. I just purchased and started riding my 1977 T140. I'll use your video for instructions on doing my first oil change. I might as well do it now since it's going to get cold and snowy in N.E Ohio. Thanks again!
Hey man! I've never subscribed, let alone joined or paid for a channel before but I just joined yours for the perks of being able to pick your brain every now and then. I just had two triumph bonnevilles delivered to Oregon from my childhood home in NY. One, my father and I built when I was a teenager and is completely custom and the other is an original, both 77's. All fluids were drained before delivery, and according to your video I already messed up by not adding the syringes of oil. I won't waste your time, but these bikes are priceless to me and I don't want to mess anything up without my father here to correct me.
Many thanks for your subscription, it is really appreciated. Always happy to help. I’d be interested to hear more about your bikes, I do like non-standard bikes and people different takes on style etc. The syringe of oil won’t break the bank, you should be ok as long as you get oil flow back into the tank. We all have to start somewhere, we all learn by our mistakes and I’m still learning.
I am glad the he showed how to remove the screen from the sump. This can be a huge problem area and can get plugged up over time. Thee is a full flow filter kit that fits inside the frame ad is a very good option for keeping your T140 running well.
I used to use Duckhams Hypergrade in my T140E 30 years ago. Had a Charlies paper oil filter on mine. I use to put some oil in the frame and leave it for half an hour to see if it leaked before adding all the oil. If you want to be really gentle you can take the plugs out and use the kickstart to bring the oil round to the return pipe. Used to change the oil every 1400 miles.
I had a '77 T140 too & the first thing i bought it was the oil filter conversion. Motorcycle mechanics had an exellent mid range tune for them which i had done when it was rebuilt & blueprinted by an engineer freind with hyde gaskets shortly after. Transformed the bike & I recommend it to any T140 owner.
I've only had my T140 for a few months, and really enjoyed the clear and concise demonstration. I've not had a Triumph for forty years, but plenty of others, and just got to enjoy old habits since the beginning of this year. I had a friend who rode a 73, back when it was new, and I was riding a Ducati 250, and I bought this one because of that experience. I had a 64 for five or six years, a TR6R, and I really enjoyed it, put quite a few thousand miles on it before foolishly selling it. Thanks for sharing your oil change, a welcome reminder of proper care.
Depends if you're using UK or US pints, in UK pints it's 355ml. Not a major problem in this instance but in other applications you could end up with the wrong oil level which wouldn't be good... Thanks for watching.
I'm new to British bike world but I just purchased a Bonneville 1977 kinda confused about putting the oil in the crankcase, does that total amount adds to the oil tank ? Any help confused in USA ... Thanks
The engine and the primary are linked by a couple of really small holes, you add the specified amount to the primary to make sure there's oil in there for the first start. The total amount of oil, as far as I know, is the for the tank, crank and primary. As long as its flowing and on the dipstick it'll be fine.
Do youall still make Whitworth wrenches there in the UK? I just bought some from amazon for my four Triumphs and they've got to be ground down to fit on the cylinder holddown nuts. Always enjoy watching how it's done across the pond.
They are still available but mainly online, we stopped using Whitworth in the 1960’s so they are becoming pretty rare. Unless you have really old bikes standard imperial spanners/sockets will fit. Thanks.
I've watched several of your videos and you obviously have a meticulous approach to the work. Along with several other people I've seen on TH-cam, you stress the importance of priming the crankcase with oil , and there is no harm in doing it (as long as you measure it carefully, as you do, and don't end up with the tank overfilled once the excess is returned), but, in the 29 years I've owned my T140V, I've done well over 40 oil changes and never found it necessary to do this. As soon as the engine starts, oil is pumped into the crankcase through the crank, and the few seconds it takes for the scavenge side of the pump to start picking this up is not enough to do any harm to the rockers and spindles, which have enough residual oil in them to keep them lubricated until the fresh oil comes through, which is only a gravity-fed dribble anyway. I'm not criticising your method, just offering an alternative view. I still enjoy watching your videos.
There's nothing wrong with either method TBH. If I didn't drain the crank then I wouldn't normally bother adding oil to it, and as you say as long as the tank isn't over filled then there's no problem. TBH I thought it worthwhile to do the whole process as someone may find it useful, or just a reason to shout at the screen... 🤣🤣🤣 Thanks for kind words and thanks for watching.
@@bodganeering I DRAINED THE OIL OUT THE SUMPAND THEN I I FORGOT TO PUT OIL IN THE SUMP AND STARTED IT UP. IT TOOK A FEW MINUTES TO RETURN OIL TO THE FRAME. OIL LIGHT WENT OFF. OIL PUMPING THROUGH STRONGLY. APPEARS OK. I WOULD HAVE PREFERRED TO PRIME IT!
Hi there, iv got a Triumph 3ta 1965 would you know what's the engine oil I'll need ? Primarily chaincase oil ? And gearbox oil . My dad usually takes care of it be he past away recently so it down to me now . Thanks 😊
From what I have found in an old manual. Oil 5 pints (2.8L) Primary 1/2 pint (300cc) Gearbox 2/3 pint (375cc) Manual says 20W30 engine oil, I would go for a mineral based designed for older engines. Gearbox any EP90 gear oil. Link for the manual I referenced: triumph-tiger-90.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/Workshop-Manual.pdf Hope this helps.
@@bodganeeringcheers ,I will have a try with the horse riding places.the ones on Amazon and eBay have got tubes and stuff.i really enjoy you’re videos it shows it like it is ,so I will be doing my first oil change on my triumph. I’m 71 in August and a bit wobbly after 2 mini strokes,I part exchanged my 1200 Harley sportster for it as the sportster was very heavy up top. It was a 2005 xl1200r so a rubber mounted one,the triumph by comparison is so light weight. I’ve still got the shovelhead bobber but the weight feels lower down.but not much good for flipping around the country lanes. It’s shit getting old.i now see why Elvis left the building.👍🇬🇧
Just wondering, while you roll around on the floor doing this, is there a perfectly good bike lift in the garage with a "project" sitting on it for months? Or is it just me?
A bike lift? I could only ever dream of such luxuries, block of wood if I’m lucky, working 25 hours a day getting up for work before I even got to bed. Sorry, went a bit Monty Python then.
Total oil capacity is 4 imperial pints, not US pints. 150cc into the primary case. 500cc into the crankcase. Remainder into the oil tank to the correct level on the dipstick.
Could be but I cannot be 100% certain. If you go to manualslib.com and search for the Tiger workshop manual you will find all the information in there. It’s free to register and download.
I'll be completely honest and say I haven't got a clue as I'm in the UK. I would select an oil that has been formulated for older engines and a full mineral oil as synthetic oils contain additives that can cause clutch slip. something with a higher zinc content is often recommended as this reduces wear. I have also heard that modern oils can 'corrode' silver solder which may be present in older engines which wouldn't be good, although how true this is I'm not sure, better safe than sorry. Thanks for watching.
I DRAINED THE OIL OUT THE SUMPAND THEN I I FORGOT TO PUT OIL IN THE SUMP AND STARTED IT UP. IT TOOK A FEW MINUTES TO RETURN OIL TO THE FRAME. OIL LIGHT WENT OFF. OIL PUMPING THROUGH STRONGLY. APPEARS OK. I WOULD HAVE PREFERRED TO PRIME IT!
I was a little nervous of carrying out the first oil change on my newly acquired, rare, OIF 1973 Triumph T120V*. However after watching and referring to your video it was a doddle.
Thank you so much for taking the time and helping others like myself, who maybe aren't the most confident when attempting such jobs. All done now and after a long ride, all's well and not a leak from anywhere. THANKS!
*Identical to T140V apart from slightly different drain plug on Primary Chain Case.
Glad it helped, happy riding.
Possibly the best motorcycle oil change video on the web.
There’s this bloke called Del that does some good ones, I pale in comparison…
Thanks for the great instruction video. I just purchased and started riding my 1977 T140. I'll use your video for instructions on doing my first oil change. I might as well do it now since it's going to get cold and snowy in N.E Ohio. Thanks again!
Hey man! I've never subscribed, let alone joined or paid for a channel before but I just joined yours for the perks of being able to pick your brain every now and then. I just had two triumph bonnevilles delivered to Oregon from my childhood home in NY. One, my father and I built when I was a teenager and is completely custom and the other is an original, both 77's. All fluids were drained before delivery, and according to your video I already messed up by not adding the syringes of oil. I won't waste your time, but these bikes are priceless to me and I don't want to mess anything up without my father here to correct me.
Many thanks for your subscription, it is really appreciated. Always happy to help.
I’d be interested to hear more about your bikes, I do like non-standard bikes and people different takes on style etc.
The syringe of oil won’t break the bank, you should be ok as long as you get oil flow back into the tank.
We all have to start somewhere, we all learn by our mistakes and I’m still learning.
I am glad the he showed how to remove the screen from the sump. This can be a huge problem area and can get plugged up over time. Thee is a full flow filter kit that fits inside the frame ad is a very good option for keeping your T140 running well.
I used to use Duckhams Hypergrade in my T140E 30 years ago. Had a Charlies paper oil filter on mine. I use to put some oil in the frame and leave it for half an hour to see if it leaked before adding all the oil. If you want to be really gentle you can take the plugs out and use the kickstart to bring the oil round to the return pipe. Used to change the oil every 1400 miles.
I had a '77 T140 too & the first thing i bought it was the oil filter conversion. Motorcycle mechanics had an exellent mid range tune for them which i had done when it was rebuilt & blueprinted by an engineer freind with hyde gaskets shortly after. Transformed the bike & I recommend it to any T140 owner.
I've only had my T140 for a few months, and really enjoyed the clear and concise demonstration. I've not had a Triumph for forty years, but plenty of others, and just got to enjoy old habits since the beginning of this year. I had a friend who rode a 73, back when it was new, and I was riding a Ducati 250, and I bought this one because of that experience. I had a 64 for five or six years, a TR6R, and I really enjoyed it, put quite a few thousand miles on it before foolishly selling it. Thanks for sharing your oil change, a welcome reminder of proper care.
Glad you shared your systematic routine on you tube, nothing too fancy and down to earth. Thanks!
Great video. Very nicely filmed and explained
Thanks for your feedback, I appreciate it.
Thanks. Never did an OIF before.
ive used full synthetic in my t140v for over 20 years, never had the clutch slip yet
Me too
Many synthetic oils have additives to prevent slippage. It is usually on the label. Very important to have Zinc in the oil.
Wow that was some serious milked-out oil from the first spot. Nice how to...!
Good thanks Mr
Bodganeering 5/8ths of a pint into motor is 300 ml
Depends if you're using UK or US pints, in UK pints it's 355ml. Not a major problem in this instance but in other applications you could end up with the wrong oil level which wouldn't be good...
Thanks for watching.
And that was a question I was going to ask ,lol
oh wait, so is it 500ml or 300 ml into the crankcase?
I'm new to British bike world but I just purchased a Bonneville 1977 kinda confused about putting the oil in the crankcase, does that total amount adds to the oil tank ? Any help confused in USA ... Thanks
The crankcase oil is part of the total capacity.
@@bodganeering sorry for asking but the total of the engine or primary ?
The engine and the primary are linked by a couple of really small holes, you add the specified amount to the primary to make sure there's oil in there for the first start.
The total amount of oil, as far as I know, is the for the tank, crank and primary. As long as its flowing and on the dipstick it'll be fine.
can you also fill the transmission through that inspection cover on the right side that screws off and allows you to change the clutch cable?
Thanks mate, really good video and very helpful
Thanks for your video.
Helps a lot
Do youall still make Whitworth wrenches there in the UK? I just bought some from amazon for my four Triumphs and they've got to be ground down to fit on the cylinder holddown nuts. Always enjoy watching how it's done across the pond.
They are still available but mainly online, we stopped using Whitworth in the 1960’s so they are becoming pretty rare.
Unless you have really old bikes standard imperial spanners/sockets will fit.
Thanks.
@@bodganeering Sometimes I wish you guys still used Whitworth, I love the old Triumphs, more now than ever!
I've watched several of your videos and you obviously have a meticulous approach to the work. Along with several other people I've seen on TH-cam, you stress the importance of priming the crankcase with oil , and there is no harm in doing it (as long as you measure it carefully, as you do, and don't end up with the tank overfilled once the excess is returned), but, in the 29 years I've owned my T140V, I've done well over 40 oil changes and never found it necessary to do this. As soon as the engine starts, oil is pumped into the crankcase through the crank, and the few seconds it takes for the scavenge side of the pump to start picking this up is not enough to do any harm to the rockers and spindles, which have enough residual oil in them to keep them lubricated until the fresh oil comes through, which is only a gravity-fed dribble anyway. I'm not criticising your method, just offering an alternative view. I still enjoy watching your videos.
There's nothing wrong with either method TBH. If I didn't drain the crank then I wouldn't normally bother adding oil to it, and as you say as long as the tank isn't over filled then there's no problem.
TBH I thought it worthwhile to do the whole process as someone may find it useful, or just a reason to shout at the screen... 🤣🤣🤣
Thanks for kind words and thanks for watching.
@@bodganeering I DRAINED THE OIL OUT THE SUMPAND THEN I I FORGOT TO PUT OIL IN THE SUMP AND STARTED IT UP. IT TOOK A FEW MINUTES TO RETURN OIL TO THE FRAME. OIL LIGHT WENT OFF. OIL PUMPING THROUGH STRONGLY. APPEARS OK. I WOULD HAVE PREFERRED TO PRIME IT!
Hi there, iv got a Triumph 3ta 1965 would you know what's the engine oil I'll need ? Primarily chaincase oil ? And gearbox oil . My dad usually takes care of it be he past away recently so it down to me now . Thanks 😊
From what I have found in an old manual.
Oil 5 pints (2.8L)
Primary 1/2 pint (300cc)
Gearbox 2/3 pint (375cc)
Manual says 20W30 engine oil, I would go for a mineral based designed for older engines. Gearbox any EP90 gear oil.
Link for the manual I referenced: triumph-tiger-90.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/Workshop-Manual.pdf
Hope this helps.
Very helpful, thanks!
You're welcome!
Hello! What were the liter amounts you put in? 🤔
The oil tank is 2.27 litres, primary is 0.5 litre.
How many cc do you put into the crackcase? 500cc?. Then 150 cc on primary & rest up to 2.2 liters into the frame? Thanks
355cc in the crank, 150cc in the primary. The oil will self level, this just gives it a head start.
How do I check the oil levels on my 78? T140v
If you go to around 12:30 on the video I quickly glance over checking the oil level.
Can you tell me where you bought your syringe please,I’m just about to do my first oil change I’ve just bought a 1978 tiger.
I think I got that one from a local horse riding place but plenty available on Amazon, eBay etc.
@@bodganeeringcheers ,I will have a try with the horse riding places.the ones on Amazon and eBay have got tubes and stuff.i really enjoy you’re videos it shows it like it is ,so I will be doing my first oil change on my triumph. I’m 71 in August and a bit wobbly after 2 mini strokes,I part exchanged my 1200 Harley sportster for it as the sportster was very heavy up top. It was a 2005 xl1200r so a rubber mounted one,the triumph by comparison is so light weight. I’ve still got the shovelhead bobber but the weight feels lower down.but not much good for flipping around the country lanes. It’s shit getting old.i now see why Elvis left the building.👍🇬🇧
@jamesfleming5875 I wouldn’t call Triumphs light, but still lighter than a Sportster… 🤣
Getting old really suck balls.
Thanks.
@@bodganeering I went to my local farm supply store,got 4 of them for 84 pence each.a bargain and it all went of well thanks to you’re videos.👍
@@jamesfleming5875 to coin a phrase, winner winner chicken dinner.
Happy it helped mate, stay rubber side down.
Just wondering, while you roll around on the floor doing this, is there a perfectly good bike lift in the garage with a "project" sitting on it for months? Or is it just me?
A bike lift? I could only ever dream of such luxuries, block of wood if I’m lucky, working 25 hours a day getting up for work before I even got to bed.
Sorry, went a bit Monty Python then.
When mr honda left the infamous Johnson Motors visit he laughed so hard he almost pissed himself.
How many syrings went into the first place you put oil? How much total oil did you use?
Total oil capacity is 4 imperial pints, not US pints.
150cc into the primary case.
500cc into the crankcase.
Remainder into the oil tank to the correct level on the dipstick.
Thanks you!!
Would the amounts be the same for an 73 tiger 750?
Could be but I cannot be 100% certain. If you go to manualslib.com and search for the Tiger workshop manual you will find all the information in there.
It’s free to register and download.
@@bodganeeringI can’t thank you enough for Sal your help I really appreciate it . Safe riding
Is that oil available in the states ?
I'll be completely honest and say I haven't got a clue as I'm in the UK. I would select an oil that has been formulated for older engines and a full mineral oil as synthetic oils contain additives that can cause clutch slip. something with a higher zinc content is often recommended as this reduces wear.
I have also heard that modern oils can 'corrode' silver solder which may be present in older engines which wouldn't be good, although how true this is I'm not sure, better safe than sorry.
Thanks for watching.
@@bodganeering thanks man.
Appreciate you
Mate!!!!!how dirty is your oil ???
That's shocking
Might have been slightly overdue a change… 🧐😂
Yup!
What is the grease you are applying to the gasket?
It’s Hylomar Blue non setting gasket paste. If some gets into the oil system it won’t block oil galleries unlike silicone based sealants.
@@bodganeering thanks
I DRAINED THE OIL OUT THE SUMPAND THEN I I FORGOT TO PUT OIL IN THE SUMP AND STARTED IT UP. IT TOOK A FEW MINUTES TO RETURN OIL TO THE FRAME. OIL LIGHT WENT OFF. OIL PUMPING THROUGH STRONGLY. APPEARS OK. I WOULD HAVE PREFERRED TO PRIME IT!