I have loved the Zoom Podtrak P8 because of its smaller footprint as well as the 2 extra xlr inputs, 70db of gain. however the feature of being able to connect it to two separate computers is too good not to want to upgrade and their gain is boosted to match. Rode finally won me back after switching from the Rodecaster Pro to the Podtrak P8. Time to start saving again!
Love to see you get recognised Tom! Love to see a Harris/Tom collaboration, both of you are amazing at explaining/reviewing anything sound/stream/podcast related…
One thing you forgot to mention with the space issues is that the Rodecaster pro 2 can use an arm. A monitor mount or something similar. So, you can take it off your desk. Also, the original was wider than this one.
I'm old enough to remember when this functionality was five feet wide and controlled my entire Radio Station (1996-2000). My station owner spent, at that time, about $35K on our Wheatstone board system. My wish list item: individual muting mapping: the two choices available as of 7-26-2022 are either line level out continuously, or muting monitors whenever any fader is up. I wish we could map Microphone faders to mute the monitors when potted up, but if they are zeroed out, and other inputs up, have the monitors playing, at a customized level. That whining aside, I LOVE my Rodecaster Pro II! I can now have two studios again, one with my original Rodecaster Pro for simple (hah!) Podcasts, and my II for Streaming and playing my Piano and making my mouth noise.
"Submixes" are confirmed to be coming. There's going to be a routing table for output headphone / speakers and volume controls for outputs going to those outputs.. Another virtual output will be good but currently, Music output can be done via the second USB-C connection. You can actually have both cables go into the same PC. Lastly, yeah this thing is big. The best way to use it is to mount it on a mic arm, something like a Elgato wave LP arm it'll just be slightly above your table and you can swing it off the table altogether.
On the subject of size.. They freaking put vesa mount holes on back of this thing!! You can easily float it off your desk with a standard vesa mount arm!
Ngl I feel like this would be really beneficial for couple streamer setups. I’ve seen a few, but it’s a really interesting idea tbh. Imagine you have two people who want to share a setup, and they just have one interface for both of their microphones, and maybe even phone calls and etc.
The ability to use two PC's is KEY! I really enjoy the GoXLR but I'm more than happy to upgrade to this device after seeing your review! Thank you for the review!
I think a collaboration between a streaming focused company and an audio focused company would be great. RME have great digital mixer/interface software and I think if they did a collaboration with someone like elgato, they could very easily create the best streaming audio.
GoXLR vs Rodecaster right now Elgato needs to jump into the game and make their own audio mixer, if they team up with someone then sure but I'd rather them do it themselves and you know they will make one eventually, second they make a full size audio mixer I am buying it instantly, GoXLR and Rodecaster will be shaking in their boots at that point because everyone will switch
My RCP is a beast I use it with a SM7B with cloudlifter. With the RCPII I like the larger angled screen (both improvements), built in voice effects, and sound pad arrows. Having a smaller desk I agree it’s pretty massive
Looks like a fantastic product, I'd love to get my hands on one. I actually prefer the larger footprint. Gives me a mental image of durability, and makes me feel like the moment to moment adjustments are more "manageable." That's all probably mental though.
I actually like the bigger size and all the info and seporate sliders / controls. To much condensing can lead to miss clicks and accidentally triggering the wrong things. Rode killed it with this thing.
Rode is amazing, best experience with a broken component support. The mic preamp in my AI-1 was acting up, the device got replaced in ONE hour. It was two years old, they asked for a sample recording and told me to pop by to swap it for a new one. Rode: YOU ARE EPIC NEVER CHANGE THIS. My brand of choice.
I broke the USB port on my Rodecaster that was out of warranty and I sent it to them and the fixed it in two weeks for free. I was blown away by the customer support.
The Vesa mount feature on the bottom will solve your space problem. You can mount it to an arm, to the wall, or to a stand that is off the desk. In terms of size and what it's marketed to do, I think the screen could be slightly bigger. But as I am watching this video, Røde has made several other similar devices that are much smaller and more simplistic than the Rødecaster Pro II. Awesome video, and review!
I was planning on getting the first and and while saving the second one was announced, it really does seem like the almost perfect streaming mixer, not to mention multiple in and out Amazing for the price it’s literally like having multiple goxlrs combined it’s what has been needed
When I worked in radio, we had the first Rodecaster for on-location broadcasts. I then used it to work from home at the start of the pandemic. It was awesome! Bummer that I couldn't keep it! This looks better though (as it should since its newer). Great video! :)
Mine arrived today. It has already changed how I make content considerably. Note: This is not for everyone. If you are a solo streamer, I wouldn't really suggest this unless you have some super convoluted setup like mine. For most people a Scarlet Focusrite, a cheap mixer, cloud lifter combo for dynamic mics, or any number of other interfaces like the GO XLR and such are much better options. This is truly a device that has a very unique set of features that somehow does all of it near the best it can be done. I'm using mine with two Electra Voice RE 20's. Let me tell you, the amp it uses to boost the mics is better than the $300 cloud lifter I would need to use for two mics. It's super clean all the way up to 60DB increase. It's insane. I have never seen a booster this clean in any device before. Now, let me explain my use case and why this device made sense. I run a podcast every week that has one other person in studio and usually two, sometimes 3, people on virtually. So we would have our local setup with us two and then run two other computers for the show. One to bring in the people coming in through video conference, the other to start sharing things on stream for the show (it's a live show). So say we're talking about a video game leaked image, I need to show that image. Also sometimes we're talking about a trailer and I want to play that trailer and still ahve some audio come through. My streaming computer is actually about 12 feet away from our set (we have an actual set for the show, pro camera, etc). Because of this, even though we have a monitor near by that has the streaming software up and brings in the audio from the video call and mixes it all together, we can't really convenetly , on the fly, mess with the audio. Also, when we bring in the laptop on set that we may be showing images and trailers off of, we run it through capture card and that audio then plays through the same channel as our guests, so we lose any fine tune control. So, here is what we do now as of today. We have our mics running through their own sliders and such on the roadcaster pro. No real difference from the scarlete 4i4 except that I don't need to use cloud lifters anymore, the audio is therefore cleaner, and it does all the processing for noise gates and other adjustments locally instead of through software on the computer. So that's good, but not a huge difference to buy this alone. Then, I run BOTH usb c thunderbolt ports to the streaming computer. Through this, we have discord (our video platform of choice) coming through the Rode caster pro 2 VOICE line (thus, putting the discord people on their own slider), but then we use the roadcaster main mix 2 from the second line to run desktop audio through it's own line. That way off the main streaming computer where we host all of our music files, I can still play music off of there as it's own slider that isn't going out to the discord call. Normally since this came through the same source before, we owuld have our guest smute their mics while the 10 minute music intro ran for the podcast - now we can mute them locally, mute ourselves, play the music out the stream, and still talk to the guests about what we're about to talk about during that 10 minute break. Now, since it doesn't have sub mixes I can't lower the volume of the music in my headphones while doing this and keeping it at 100 for the prestream runup, but I literally know this is a top requested feature and I suspect they will add this ability in the future. Still, now I can freely talk to the guests while the stream music is running. I can then send out main mix 1 - which is "everything", to the stream through one audio channel. Which is what I want. All audio managed by one device, the computer just plays through one channel on the stream. Okay, that's cool. You can get this done with a nice, much cheaper, mixer. True. But remembe that second computer? At first you go man, you want to run that 2nd thunderbolt to the laptop to get the audio from the trailers or whatever you want to display during the show off the laptop. True, but then you can't create a proper submix that keeps the desktop sounds away from chatting with people on discord. But you know what this device has? Bluetooth. I can blutooth the laptop audio in with no discernable delay, and still play that in now on it's OWN FADER as well, and get super fine control now of EVERY SINGLE AUDIO SOURCE. Now, you can't level two different people in the same discord call of course - that's a software thing, but the fact I have them on their own fader indepdent of the music I play from the streaming computer and any audio I want to do on the fly from the laptop is amazing. NEXT, it does all the audio processing locally. This matters when you want to do voice effects. Which we use frequently for fun. Robot voices, deep voices, high pitched fun, etc. Now, it use to be that we would run our mics through an aplication called voice mod. This app is great, but the problem is that it does add a smidge of delay, and you REALLY hear that delay when you go to listen back to yourself. It's really bad, and makes it very hard to use properly. Because this is all localized hardware processing, there is zero delay. Thus, it effectively replaces voice mod. Including sound effects. Basically, all the sound stuff I was doing with voice mod through a stream deck - yeah gone. It does it locally, and better. Also because it can manage scene switching in obs, you basically do not need a stream deck or anything like it at all. I'm still going to use one personally as a music play list manager because we have around 100 songs or so already setup on it and I want to use the 8 pages on this device for other things, so the Stream Deck will stay, but now it's just a single purpose device for me. I know that defeats the functionality of it, but so? Now I can reorganize it as just a music system. I am so cool with that. All of this, and I am not even touching upon side work I can do, like hooking up electric pianos and recording that and singing, and how you can record your audio locally via micrsd, transfer everything off it it without needing to take the microsd out - how you can setup different things per show, and more. And as a Nintendo youtuber, I sometimes game stream right? I would basically just unplug the capture card from the laptop and plug in the switch dock. Well, Switch now supports bluetooth headphones which, you guessed it, you can connect to the rodecaster like it's a blutooth headphone, and now manage the audio of the switch through there despite it going through a capture card. so damn cool, right? and the best part for us is, I can now hear how this all mixes together. I couldn't before. Because with all the different devices and applications, audio delays, it was... never what was actually output to the audience. This just replaced $600 in devices for me, while replacing 4 separate software suites, and adding in more functionality than I had with all of that combined. Yeah, this thing is worth twice what it costs. And that's before we get to music production. Life saver.
I'm using a Goxlr + Shure SM7b + Cloud Lifter (+ Scarlet Solo since I get bad interference from my Goxlr when recording singing audio). Is it worth selling everything, which will total more than the RCPII?
@@shosanVT there is nothing the go xlr does this doesn’t do inherently, though as he noted there is no sub mixes. If your just a solo streamer that may be a deal breaker and all the extra functionality may not be worth that sacrifice. You will not need the cloud lifter at all. In fact, the manual for it specifically says do not use any cloud lifters or other boosting devices, it will make the Audio worse - and I can confirm that to be the case. This is a case where what’s your use case? This thing is super powerful, but if I just solo streamed from a single computer, it’s a bit overkill. I do think they will likely add sub mixes down the line, but for many that’s a must. Depends what your doing.
@@NintyPrime Case usage is Audio Recording (Singing - Primary), and second case is using it to recording/streaming. It seems like it can only get better once more software is developed?
@@shosanVT It's absolutely amazing for audio recording and singing. No problems with that and it's local recordings are extremely high quality. Not the sort of stuff you can record into Audacity. Top notch stuff. It's absolutely great and totally fine for say, video recordings. I create youtube content and yeah, it sounds great, it looks great, and it is super easy to sync with video. For streams - again - highly use case dependent. Do you need the granularity of sub mixes? I don't stream PC games - so because of that I can bluetooth in audio off my consoles and control it that way and keep that audio away from any voice chat I may be in with friends. If the sort of streams you do are more music oriented - let's say you want to play an electric piano or guitar and do some live singing - yeah - it works very well for that and is a use case I don't currently take advantage of, but it absolutely supports it. A MAJORITY of my streams are not of the "playing game variety" - more newsy and discussion stuff with questions - and for that it works so well. But I also use a multiple computer setup for it which isn't actually that normal in non-gaming situations, but it is slowly becoming more common. People are finding out that it's really nice to have a PC dedicated to streaming - which is what my main PC basically is. So then I feed my laptop in to show stuff off instead of doing it through the streaming PC. But again, I explained that. It's a convoluted setup. And if you're doing podcasts, in person or otherwise - yeah, obviously this is an amazing flexible device for that. It was designed (the original one) for podcasting, and this one simply takes those capabilities to the next level. A lot of it is use case dependent. If you plan to stream PC games from one computer - you can basically create your own somewhat submix and keep game audio away from voice chat. You can also say, bluetooth in a phone and play music only you can hear, not the audience (copyright reasons, etc). So it has a lot of functionality. When I got it, I had no idea I would actually use the bluetooth for anything, but when you run both USB C ports to one computer, you gain that extra granularity with the mixing that can give you a bit of a hardware based submix. It's pretty neat, and I would say it's learning curve is super simple. I haven't really gone to the manual once for anything that matters. But there is a lot of information and tutorials out there. I'll say this: If you owned this instead of all your other equipment (besides your mic, of course), you wouldn't be disappointed. It can also really simplify the setup. It is big - but for me - that's exactly what I wanted. Something big, chunky, well spaced out, with more granularity to it. Some people in the comments as an example wish they lopped off half the physical touch pads and made the faders shorter - but the longer a fader is, the more precision you have - and that really matters when your podcasting live, on the fly, and need to quickly get those audio levels to match. Plus, 8 buttons is sweet. The paging is sweet. I am diving into the app (which you don't even need to use) now, just to add in more effects.
Do be aware: us early adopters (I used the OG Procaster for VO since Sep '19) have been experiencing issues with the pads being HYPER-sensitive, going off at the touch of your desk. Or off at random of its own accord. The preamps ARE phenomenal...
@@MattReportPodcast Yeah, and they were less than helpful. They simply told me to talk to Sweetwater. I did, and Sweetwater had a new unit out the door to me in less than an hour, with free return shipping.
I've been drooling over the Rodecaster 2 for a while, luckily my desk is huge, and my games aren't mouse movement intensive. Great videos, you have been my go to lately for gear info. Thanks, fantastic vids!!
The lack of inputs is a pretty big drawback imo. But i do feel that could be fixed with a firmware update to work similar to the GoXLR. So hopefully that happens. Unless you mean physical inputs and not virtual ones. The submixes.. i would have thought they would have included as well. Hopefully, firmware update will fix that. The Size... I mean, i still prefer to have physical buttons rather than mucking with virtual ones like Becon one. I just dont see you getting that much control right on demand with virtual controls Ever without something physical. How much time does it take you to change what your nobs do on the Becon interface? and how much are you 'distracted' from your stream/game while doing it? I bet its not insignificant.
Honestly, they could easily cut that size in half, the faders don't need to be that long and 4 buttons on the side would be enough for most really, so... yea, they could easily make a smaller version.
Grab a Rodecaster Pro station mount arm. Get it of the desk and give you the ability to swing it out of the way when you don't need it. The arm also comes with mic boom. If you don't need the full bundle then go with a Millenium Laptopm-arm that fits it perfectly.
That's an awesome piece of equipment, but $700 is a lot to drop for audio. Not saying it isn't worth that much, but is it worth that much to me? I don't know if I would use the functionality to the point that would justify that amount of investment.
But you could learn to utilize the product in it's entirety. Which would keep you from spending more on a different piece of gear if you DID opt out of buying this beauty.
@@xxitz_pr0gxx631 True. But that assumes I'm not getting a lot of the functionality out of current equipment. I'd be spending money to replace what I already have. And true this is a better version of those things and likely would have some more functionality, but I don't know if that increase is worth the price. I'd love to have it, just can't spend the cost of a mid range computer for it.
100% agree on it being a little too much money. But if they continue to release software updates, like it seems they are going to continue to do, it could essentially be a little future proof which makes it more appealing to me.
As a streamer, completely wish there were more digital outputs, but so far I have been managing fine on my single PC set up by connecting both USBs to a single computer, giving myself 3 digital outputs. Just in case anyone was wondering if that's possible. Fantastic piece of hardware, and the routing being added already has been great and I can't wait to see what else they improve going forward.
I LOVE mine. It’s been a great edition to my channel. I paired mine with an AT2040 that sounds awesome. I also use my RODE Wireless Go plugged in and it sound crazy good with the built in processing.
Well this is basically the GoXLR with a built in Stream Deck so the size makes sense. The added features for the most common microphones are nice as is the dual inputs. It makes me wonder if the next GoXLR will be aimed at the Pro2.
Answered my question right off the bat. I actually have to use an io24 for my studio, but a GoXLR Mini for my work computer. Don't really want to buy a second mic, so I have an XLR splitter. Definitely will have to take a look at this. Thanks Harris.
Great video! There is one USB audio interface that I've heard of with two USB host connections, that's the iConnectivity Audio4c. It's a fairly plain USB audio interface otherwise with 4 mic preamps, 4 analog outputs and notably it appears to have 6 channels over the first USB connection and 2 channels over the second (half that in stereo pairs). You did mention you wanted a third stereo pair for music. It also has flexible routing and on-device memory to store it.
Your comment strategy works, I never comment on TH-cam videos but wanted to this time 🚀 Btw thanks for such a great video, I think I just found the perfect equipment I need as a nomadic content creator 🤓
Day one RCPII owner here. I dumped that trash GoXLR largely because they don't support it at all with regular updates. It was ridiculous. Anyway, you neglected to mention that you can actually mount the RCPII on a VESA mount to clear up desk space. Also the GoXLR stand actually can hold the RCPII and its great! The screen is facing you at an angle to make seeing levels much easier vs. being flat. Hitting pads and sliding faders is easier too.
Started my day looking for reviews on a $400 mic (SM7B) and now I've got a shopping list that's over $1200 haha but thank you for this amazing review! Super helpful.
If Rode could just drop the whole bottom half of this thing by swapping the faders for knobs and having fewer sound pads it would be perfect. I love that all the audio processing is handled on one device because the BEACN software is driving me nuts.
Not having sub mixes makes this pretty unviable for most people who have used the GoXLR and have had the luxury of hearing volume adjustments that don’t affect their stream. Until they add that, I don’t think this will take off for streamers. Routing table somewhat offsets that issue, but not fully. However, it looks like they probably will update it for sub mixes and therefore this product is pretty exciting! Thanks for the coverage dude!
Regarding some of the improvements for future suggested in this video: I've personally bridged the gap on "I wish there was one more USB device" by putting a Beacn Mix Create into my setup. I send its headphone mix to USB1 main on RCP2, its audience mix to USB2 on RCP2, and I set USB1 Chat routing table to exclude all other USBs. This allows me the many USB devices I would want out of the RCP 2. Granted: I would prefer the RCP 2 let me make virtual USB devices just like my BEACN Mix Create, but it struck me as a valid workflow workaround so I thought I'd mention it. Maybe you can do it more efficiently than I did, but it works for my setups.
I actually use the original Rodecaster Pro as the powerhouse for a sports podcast I run at my job and it is fantastic! Able to switch to different segments on the fly with the sound pads!
Great Video! About your last point, the size of the device: Rode included a VESA Mount and an 3/8" mount, so there is no need to place the RodeCaster on your Desk.
I had the original for a few years and take the plunge on the new one. I absolutely love it. I hope they keep the updates coming via firmware updates too.
The size is cool! They even give you the option to Mount it from the back to clear space on your desk. Try that out and see if that works better for you. I don’t believe the other interfaces have a mountable backside like the RCP2 has.
You can tell how this thing made him very "herni" talking about the rode caster. His gf/wife/bf should be jealous for how much affection he gave this audio interface received.
although I agree it takes up a lot of space, in my experience to make it smaller companies start eliminating buttons and use the same buttons to control many features. And they make the sliders much smaller, sometimes to the point they become almost useless. This makes the controller much more difficult to use. And one of the best things about this machine apparently is the ease of use, the small learning curve. In many setups, this machine will replace several other machines on your desk, and they needed desk space too. I ordered one today, and the only other thing I'll keep on my desk is my Stream Deck XL, as that is still more versatile at the moment to control tasks (especially multitasks) in my DAW and on my computer.
hot damn that 2 USB thing is an incredible workflow! if those faders have DAW control as well it may replace a couple of things in my current workflow holy cow!
I’ve had this since launch, it was nowhere near as easy to set up as the goxlr (when I first got it) it since the firmware updates it’s a lot easier to route the audio I want for my stream. I also think the preamps make it sound way better and the headphones jack make my sennheiser sound great. I think the rcp2 will get even better over time once big streamers get reviews out like Harris, they will hopefully influence Rode on what is needed going forward. Overall I’m pretty happy with it, still learning it’s capabilities.
I think another more common scenario for the second USB port is plugging in a phone to host remote callers on a podcast. Yes, there's Bluetooth but wires are more reliable.
I am using a Soundcraft Signature 12 MTK, which is great and awesome and does what it does great. But it has less features (except the amount of audio devices you get on the PC it's connected to, which is 6 in and out plus a master mix) and is much bigger than the RØDECaster Pro II. And you can mount this with a VESA mount and move it around. And it's nice to have a proper size to be able to use it on the fly without fiddling with too small controls.
I bought the original Rodecaster Pro over the GoXLR. I knew in the end I could ultimately stream, podcast, TH-cam with either linking it directly to the PC, but I thought the Rodecaster Pro was going to be easier. Now that the 2 is out I think this is closer to the machine I dreamed of. The only improvements I would make beyond Harris would be the pads become screens or have some way to show you what that grouping does on it. I see it pops up on the side of the screen when you change it, but some people might prefer it right above the pad or on it. I'm slightly disappointed that this is out now that I have the original lol, but I feel like I still have to master this one anyway before I dive into the extra features. I hope a firmware update for the original comes out if they can do anything to replicate some of the new features.
Love your content. Could you show how this could work with a gaming console set up? For example I stream on a box one S and from time to time a PS4. My set up now is a Rodecaster pro, Rode caster Mic, an older Elgato capture card HD60 S, Logitech C 90 1080p WebCam, and a Canon M50.
Dante and Virtual Sound Card is probably going to blow your mind when it comes being able to route audio to and from many units. If you want sub mixes and don't need the phone in feature get an X32 or XR18.
Size Issue: The RCP II has both a VESA mount and a 3/8" tread on the bottom to be mounted off your desk/table top, which can free up real estate on your desk/table top. Really useful feature.
the Antelope and a lot of UAD devices can interface with multiple devices at once however they have almost zero control over anything except for output or input volume. But, the quality is crazy good. I'm interested in this little device
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What audio interface are you using right now? You got an upgrade in mind soon?
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GoXLR. Not looking for an upgrade rn
I’m using the goxlr mini and rode podmic and no plans for an upgrade
I have a barrage of wave mic, goxlr, and beacn mix create. maybe I should sell them all and just go with this?
It’s not a cheap device, but when you add up all it does- it’s a crazy bargain! Plus the constant firmware updates just make it better and better.
I have loved the Zoom Podtrak P8 because of its smaller footprint as well as the 2 extra xlr inputs, 70db of gain. however the feature of being able to connect it to two separate computers is too good not to want to upgrade and their gain is boosted to match. Rode finally won me back after switching from the Rodecaster Pro to the Podtrak P8. Time to start saving again!
After watching your vid, I went out got it. It makes remote training sessions for work a breeze.
Congrats Tom! you are killing in this topic!
Beta 1.07 was awesome and I love mine. I upgraded from the RCP1 to the RCP2
Love to see you get recognised Tom! Love to see a Harris/Tom collaboration, both of you are amazing at explaining/reviewing anything sound/stream/podcast related…
One thing you forgot to mention with the space issues is that the Rodecaster pro 2 can use an arm. A monitor mount or something similar. So, you can take it off your desk. Also, the original was wider than this one.
I'm old enough to remember when this functionality was five feet wide and controlled my entire Radio Station (1996-2000).
My station owner spent, at that time, about $35K on our Wheatstone board system.
My wish list item: individual muting mapping: the two choices available as of 7-26-2022 are either line level out continuously, or muting monitors whenever any fader is up. I wish we could map Microphone faders to mute the monitors when potted up, but if they are zeroed out, and other inputs up, have the monitors playing, at a customized level.
That whining aside, I LOVE my Rodecaster Pro II! I can now have two studios again, one with my original Rodecaster Pro for simple (hah!) Podcasts, and my II for Streaming and playing my Piano and making my mouth noise.
"Submixes" are confirmed to be coming. There's going to be a routing table for output headphone / speakers and volume controls for outputs going to those outputs.. Another virtual output will be good but currently, Music output can be done via the second USB-C connection. You can actually have both cables go into the same PC. Lastly, yeah this thing is big. The best way to use it is to mount it on a mic arm, something like a Elgato wave LP arm it'll just be slightly above your table and you can swing it off the table altogether.
On the subject of size.. They freaking put vesa mount holes on back of this thing!! You can easily float it off your desk with a standard vesa mount arm!
Regarding desk space: Don’t forget that the RCPII has mounting threads so that it can be put on an arm to float OVER your desk, if you want. 🤓
If the price cost more, not worth paying.
Awesome!!
Ngl I feel like this would be really beneficial for couple streamer setups. I’ve seen a few, but it’s a really interesting idea tbh. Imagine you have two people who want to share a setup, and they just have one interface for both of their microphones, and maybe even phone calls and etc.
The ability to use two PC's is KEY! I really enjoy the GoXLR but I'm more than happy to upgrade to this device after seeing your review! Thank you for the review!
I think a collaboration between a streaming focused company and an audio focused company would be great. RME have great digital mixer/interface software and I think if they did a collaboration with someone like elgato, they could very easily create the best streaming audio.
GoXLR vs Rodecaster right now
Elgato needs to jump into the game and make their own audio mixer, if they team up with someone then sure but I'd rather them do it themselves and you know they will make one eventually, second they make a full size audio mixer I am buying it instantly, GoXLR and Rodecaster will be shaking in their boots at that point because everyone will switch
FYI, the device DOES allow three sound sources from one PC, as requested at 10:45 ... it's done by plugging both USB cables into the same PC.
thank you for the information ! =) but if you plug all the usb c to the same pc you also loose the using for a 2 pc setup
My RCP is a beast I use it with a SM7B with cloudlifter. With the RCPII I like the larger angled screen (both improvements), built in voice effects, and sound pad arrows. Having a smaller desk I agree it’s pretty massive
Would you run the RCPII with the cloudlifter when using the Shure ?
Take that Cloudlifter out. It adds awful background noise. That preamp has more than enough power.
@@shosanVT no
This device was a game changer for me. Even with a bit of audio experience I was having issues but this streamlines everything! Worth the price!
Looks like a fantastic product, I'd love to get my hands on one. I actually prefer the larger footprint. Gives me a mental image of durability, and makes me feel like the moment to moment adjustments are more "manageable." That's all probably mental though.
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Seriously checking this out for starting our podcast. Thanks for the review!
I actually like the bigger size and all the info and seporate sliders / controls. To much condensing can lead to miss clicks and accidentally triggering the wrong things. Rode killed it with this thing.
Yep!!!
I own one and I love the size! Makes me proud to own it lol
Yea after the first 20 seconds, I'm not taking you seriously. $700+ price tag "It needs to be more expensive."
Rode is amazing, best experience with a broken component support. The mic preamp in my AI-1 was acting up, the device got replaced in ONE hour. It was two years old, they asked for a sample recording and told me to pop by to swap it for a new one. Rode: YOU ARE EPIC NEVER CHANGE THIS. My brand of choice.
I broke the USB port on my Rodecaster that was out of warranty and I sent it to them and the fixed it in two weeks for free. I was blown away by the customer support.
The Vesa mount feature on the bottom will solve your space problem. You can mount it to an arm, to the wall, or to a stand that is off the desk. In terms of size and what it's marketed to do, I think the screen could be slightly bigger. But as I am watching this video, Røde has made several other similar devices that are much smaller and more simplistic than the Rødecaster Pro II. Awesome video, and review!
This sounds like it would be much simpler to use for team streams. Or couples streaming. That’s awesome.
I can feel the genuine hype for this device. Probably going to upgrade from the RCP v1 this year.
I was planning on getting the first and and while saving the second one was announced, it really does seem like the almost perfect streaming mixer, not to mention multiple in and out
Amazing for the price it’s literally like having multiple goxlrs combined it’s what has been needed
When I worked in radio, we had the first Rodecaster for on-location broadcasts. I then used it to work from home at the start of the pandemic. It was awesome! Bummer that I couldn't keep it! This looks better though (as it should since its newer). Great video! :)
This rocks! I can't believe they don't have more digital inputs
Mine arrived today.
It has already changed how I make content considerably.
Note: This is not for everyone. If you are a solo streamer, I wouldn't really suggest this unless you have some super convoluted setup like mine. For most people a Scarlet Focusrite, a cheap mixer, cloud lifter combo for dynamic mics, or any number of other interfaces like the GO XLR and such are much better options. This is truly a device that has a very unique set of features that somehow does all of it near the best it can be done.
I'm using mine with two Electra Voice RE 20's. Let me tell you, the amp it uses to boost the mics is better than the $300 cloud lifter I would need to use for two mics. It's super clean all the way up to 60DB increase. It's insane. I have never seen a booster this clean in any device before.
Now, let me explain my use case and why this device made sense. I run a podcast every week that has one other person in studio and usually two, sometimes 3, people on virtually. So we would have our local setup with us two and then run two other computers for the show. One to bring in the people coming in through video conference, the other to start sharing things on stream for the show (it's a live show). So say we're talking about a video game leaked image, I need to show that image. Also sometimes we're talking about a trailer and I want to play that trailer and still ahve some audio come through.
My streaming computer is actually about 12 feet away from our set (we have an actual set for the show, pro camera, etc). Because of this, even though we have a monitor near by that has the streaming software up and brings in the audio from the video call and mixes it all together, we can't really convenetly , on the fly, mess with the audio. Also, when we bring in the laptop on set that we may be showing images and trailers off of, we run it through capture card and that audio then plays through the same channel as our guests, so we lose any fine tune control.
So, here is what we do now as of today. We have our mics running through their own sliders and such on the roadcaster pro. No real difference from the scarlete 4i4 except that I don't need to use cloud lifters anymore, the audio is therefore cleaner, and it does all the processing for noise gates and other adjustments locally instead of through software on the computer. So that's good, but not a huge difference to buy this alone.
Then, I run BOTH usb c thunderbolt ports to the streaming computer. Through this, we have discord (our video platform of choice) coming through the Rode caster pro 2 VOICE line (thus, putting the discord people on their own slider), but then we use the roadcaster main mix 2 from the second line to run desktop audio through it's own line. That way off the main streaming computer where we host all of our music files, I can still play music off of there as it's own slider that isn't going out to the discord call. Normally since this came through the same source before, we owuld have our guest smute their mics while the 10 minute music intro ran for the podcast - now we can mute them locally, mute ourselves, play the music out the stream, and still talk to the guests about what we're about to talk about during that 10 minute break.
Now, since it doesn't have sub mixes I can't lower the volume of the music in my headphones while doing this and keeping it at 100 for the prestream runup, but I literally know this is a top requested feature and I suspect they will add this ability in the future.
Still, now I can freely talk to the guests while the stream music is running. I can then send out main mix 1 - which is "everything", to the stream through one audio channel. Which is what I want. All audio managed by one device, the computer just plays through one channel on the stream.
Okay, that's cool. You can get this done with a nice, much cheaper, mixer. True. But remembe that second computer? At first you go man, you want to run that 2nd thunderbolt to the laptop to get the audio from the trailers or whatever you want to display during the show off the laptop. True, but then you can't create a proper submix that keeps the desktop sounds away from chatting with people on discord. But you know what this device has? Bluetooth. I can blutooth the laptop audio in with no discernable delay, and still play that in now on it's OWN FADER as well, and get super fine control now of EVERY SINGLE AUDIO SOURCE. Now, you can't level two different people in the same discord call of course - that's a software thing, but the fact I have them on their own fader indepdent of the music I play from the streaming computer and any audio I want to do on the fly from the laptop is amazing.
NEXT, it does all the audio processing locally. This matters when you want to do voice effects. Which we use frequently for fun. Robot voices, deep voices, high pitched fun, etc. Now, it use to be that we would run our mics through an aplication called voice mod. This app is great, but the problem is that it does add a smidge of delay, and you REALLY hear that delay when you go to listen back to yourself. It's really bad, and makes it very hard to use properly. Because this is all localized hardware processing, there is zero delay. Thus, it effectively replaces voice mod. Including sound effects. Basically, all the sound stuff I was doing with voice mod through a stream deck - yeah gone. It does it locally, and better.
Also because it can manage scene switching in obs, you basically do not need a stream deck or anything like it at all. I'm still going to use one personally as a music play list manager because we have around 100 songs or so already setup on it and I want to use the 8 pages on this device for other things, so the Stream Deck will stay, but now it's just a single purpose device for me. I know that defeats the functionality of it, but so? Now I can reorganize it as just a music system. I am so cool with that.
All of this, and I am not even touching upon side work I can do, like hooking up electric pianos and recording that and singing, and how you can record your audio locally via micrsd, transfer everything off it it without needing to take the microsd out - how you can setup different things per show, and more. And as a Nintendo youtuber, I sometimes game stream right? I would basically just unplug the capture card from the laptop and plug in the switch dock. Well, Switch now supports bluetooth headphones which, you guessed it, you can connect to the rodecaster like it's a blutooth headphone, and now manage the audio of the switch through there despite it going through a capture card. so damn cool, right?
and the best part for us is, I can now hear how this all mixes together. I couldn't before. Because with all the different devices and applications, audio delays, it was... never what was actually output to the audience.
This just replaced $600 in devices for me, while replacing 4 separate software suites, and adding in more functionality than I had with all of that combined.
Yeah, this thing is worth twice what it costs. And that's before we get to music production. Life saver.
Would it be worth using the Cloudlifter on a ShureSM7B for this?
I'm using a Goxlr + Shure SM7b + Cloud Lifter (+ Scarlet Solo since I get bad interference from my Goxlr when recording singing audio). Is it worth selling everything, which will total more than the RCPII?
@@shosanVT there is nothing the go xlr does this doesn’t do inherently, though as he noted there is no sub mixes. If your just a solo streamer that may be a deal breaker and all the extra functionality may not be worth that sacrifice.
You will not need the cloud lifter at all. In fact, the manual for it specifically says do not use any cloud lifters or other boosting devices, it will make the Audio worse - and I can confirm that to be the case.
This is a case where what’s your use case? This thing is super powerful, but if I just solo streamed from a single computer, it’s a bit overkill.
I do think they will likely add sub mixes down the line, but for many that’s a must. Depends what your doing.
@@NintyPrime Case usage is Audio Recording (Singing - Primary), and second case is using it to recording/streaming. It seems like it can only get better once more software is developed?
@@shosanVT It's absolutely amazing for audio recording and singing. No problems with that and it's local recordings are extremely high quality. Not the sort of stuff you can record into Audacity. Top notch stuff.
It's absolutely great and totally fine for say, video recordings. I create youtube content and yeah, it sounds great, it looks great, and it is super easy to sync with video.
For streams - again - highly use case dependent. Do you need the granularity of sub mixes? I don't stream PC games - so because of that I can bluetooth in audio off my consoles and control it that way and keep that audio away from any voice chat I may be in with friends. If the sort of streams you do are more music oriented - let's say you want to play an electric piano or guitar and do some live singing - yeah - it works very well for that and is a use case I don't currently take advantage of, but it absolutely supports it.
A MAJORITY of my streams are not of the "playing game variety" - more newsy and discussion stuff with questions - and for that it works so well. But I also use a multiple computer setup for it which isn't actually that normal in non-gaming situations, but it is slowly becoming more common. People are finding out that it's really nice to have a PC dedicated to streaming - which is what my main PC basically is. So then I feed my laptop in to show stuff off instead of doing it through the streaming PC.
But again, I explained that. It's a convoluted setup. And if you're doing podcasts, in person or otherwise - yeah, obviously this is an amazing flexible device for that. It was designed (the original one) for podcasting, and this one simply takes those capabilities to the next level.
A lot of it is use case dependent. If you plan to stream PC games from one computer - you can basically create your own somewhat submix and keep game audio away from voice chat. You can also say, bluetooth in a phone and play music only you can hear, not the audience (copyright reasons, etc). So it has a lot of functionality.
When I got it, I had no idea I would actually use the bluetooth for anything, but when you run both USB C ports to one computer, you gain that extra granularity with the mixing that can give you a bit of a hardware based submix.
It's pretty neat, and I would say it's learning curve is super simple. I haven't really gone to the manual once for anything that matters. But there is a lot of information and tutorials out there. I'll say this: If you owned this instead of all your other equipment (besides your mic, of course), you wouldn't be disappointed. It can also really simplify the setup.
It is big - but for me - that's exactly what I wanted. Something big, chunky, well spaced out, with more granularity to it. Some people in the comments as an example wish they lopped off half the physical touch pads and made the faders shorter - but the longer a fader is, the more precision you have - and that really matters when your podcasting live, on the fly, and need to quickly get those audio levels to match.
Plus, 8 buttons is sweet. The paging is sweet. I am diving into the app (which you don't even need to use) now, just to add in more effects.
Do be aware: us early adopters (I used the OG Procaster for VO since Sep '19) have been experiencing issues with the pads being HYPER-sensitive, going off at the touch of your desk. Or off at random of its own accord. The preamps ARE phenomenal...
Having the same issue. Have you contacted Rode?
@@MattReportPodcast Yeah, and they were less than helpful. They simply told me to talk to Sweetwater. I did, and Sweetwater had a new unit out the door to me in less than an hour, with free return shipping.
@@PDXASM love sweetwater
YES I'M SO GLAD YOU ARE DOING A VIDEO ON THIS, I tweeted it at you as soon as i found out about this
Great video! 👏😎
I LOVE my RCP II (had also the first version)
4:52 Harris your lighting and camera quality is so good. I can even see a piece of hair floating in through air. Nuts!
I've been drooling over the Rodecaster 2 for a while, luckily my desk is huge, and my games aren't mouse movement intensive. Great videos, you have been my go to lately for gear info. Thanks, fantastic vids!!
The lack of inputs is a pretty big drawback imo. But i do feel that could be fixed with a firmware update to work similar to the GoXLR. So hopefully that happens. Unless you mean physical inputs and not virtual ones. The submixes.. i would have thought they would have included as well. Hopefully, firmware update will fix that.
The Size... I mean, i still prefer to have physical buttons rather than mucking with virtual ones like Becon one. I just dont see you getting that much control right on demand with virtual controls Ever without something physical. How much time does it take you to change what your nobs do on the Becon interface? and how much are you 'distracted' from your stream/game while doing it? I bet its not insignificant.
Honestly, they could easily cut that size in half, the faders don't need to be that long and 4 buttons on the side would be enough for most really, so... yea, they could easily make a smaller version.
Grab a Rodecaster Pro station mount arm. Get it of the desk and give you the ability to swing it out of the way when you don't need it. The arm also comes with mic boom. If you don't need the full bundle then go with a Millenium Laptopm-arm that fits it perfectly.
That's an awesome piece of equipment, but $700 is a lot to drop for audio. Not saying it isn't worth that much, but is it worth that much to me? I don't know if I would use the functionality to the point that would justify that amount of investment.
But you could learn to utilize the product in it's entirety. Which would keep you from spending more on a different piece of gear if you DID opt out of buying this beauty.
@@xxitz_pr0gxx631 True. But that assumes I'm not getting a lot of the functionality out of current equipment. I'd be spending money to replace what I already have. And true this is a better version of those things and likely would have some more functionality, but I don't know if that increase is worth the price. I'd love to have it, just can't spend the cost of a mid range computer for it.
100% agree on it being a little too much money. But if they continue to release software updates, like it seems they are going to continue to do, it could essentially be a little future proof which makes it more appealing to me.
Not to mention, it has ¼” inputs, so for someone who plays guitar and bass like myself, it's even more appealing.
3 more valuable improvements..
- Display keys (just like streamdeck).
- Mounting mechanism.
- App (control remotely, stash away & save deskspace)
I literally just got mine today for a podcast, that’s awesome to know what this can do for streamers.
Love the subtle "Like & comment" plug in! Your videos are amazing as always! Great job
Perhaps the only guy who uses his brain without reading out a text. What a brilliant communicator. He hypnotised me into liking and sharing
This is my dream tabletop mixer for streaming. There's literally nothing I'd miss on it, and it's the perfect size for what it does.
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I currently use the TASCAM Mixcast 4 and I love it! What are your thoughts on the Rodecaster 2 vs the Mixcast 4?
i set this up in Abuja Nigeria recently. i was blown away by the functionality
As a streamer, completely wish there were more digital outputs, but so far I have been managing fine on my single PC set up by connecting both USBs to a single computer, giving myself 3 digital outputs. Just in case anyone was wondering if that's possible. Fantastic piece of hardware, and the routing being added already has been great and I can't wait to see what else they improve going forward.
Sound to me that there's something funky in the elgato add part. Great vid, as always! 🤘
Just upgraded to this bad boy. Thanks for sharing your favorite features my man.
I LOVE mine. It’s been a great edition to my channel. I paired mine with an AT2040 that sounds awesome. I also use my RODE Wireless Go plugged in and it sound crazy good with the built in processing.
Got rid of my 2040, was bloody awful for my voice
On the space thing you can put it on VESA mount to put it on arm if need be so you can just move it around if need be
Well this is basically the GoXLR with a built in Stream Deck so the size makes sense. The added features for the most common microphones are nice as is the dual inputs. It makes me wonder if the next GoXLR will be aimed at the Pro2.
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Answered my question right off the bat. I actually have to use an io24 for my studio, but a GoXLR Mini for my work computer. Don't really want to buy a second mic, so I have an XLR splitter.
Definitely will have to take a look at this. Thanks Harris.
The intro was 👌Loved the extra creativity there!
The videos have been doing better recently. That’s nice to see.
Hello from Germay... yes we need please more digital inputs on both usbc ports( both interfaces)
because of your review we bought this for our podcast setup! THANK YOU. (we talked about your video in our latest episode.)
Outstanding details here thanks for your initial review! That blue in-shot light is killer. Which lamp or light is that? Keep up the great work!
Fine fine, "engagement" and yes I hit that like button because well that was funny and I dig that. Plus I get how hard this platform can be.
THANK YOU!
I never buy anything for my streaming set up until I see you review it.
I love the sub-mixes idea! As a podcaster though I would love to see a couple more balanced inputs. Thanks for the video!
Great video! There is one USB audio interface that I've heard of with two USB host connections, that's the iConnectivity Audio4c. It's a fairly plain USB audio interface otherwise with 4 mic preamps, 4 analog outputs and notably it appears to have 6 channels over the first USB connection and 2 channels over the second (half that in stereo pairs). You did mention you wanted a third stereo pair for music.
It also has flexible routing and on-device memory to store it.
Your comment strategy works, I never comment on TH-cam videos but wanted to this time 🚀 Btw thanks for such a great video, I think I just found the perfect equipment I need as a nomadic content creator 🤓
Dual PC is realllllly cool for the "work and play from one desk" folks such as myself. I've been struggling with moving my peripherals back and forth.
I am an old radio vet, Pittsburgh, Orlando and Baltimore/Washington, DC. I bought the unit to hookup pristine audio for video. I will keep you posted.
if this had headphone submixing and that extra input for music/usb microphones it would be the greatest thing on the market by far
Day one RCPII owner here. I dumped that trash GoXLR largely because they don't support it at all with regular updates. It was ridiculous. Anyway, you neglected to mention that you can actually mount the RCPII on a VESA mount to clear up desk space. Also the GoXLR stand actually can hold the RCPII and its great! The screen is facing you at an angle to make seeing levels much easier vs. being flat. Hitting pads and sliding faders is easier too.
Started my day looking for reviews on a $400 mic (SM7B) and now I've got a shopping list that's over $1200 haha but thank you for this amazing review! Super helpful.
If Rode could just drop the whole bottom half of this thing by swapping the faders for knobs and having fewer sound pads it would be perfect. I love that all the audio processing is handled on one device because the BEACN software is driving me nuts.
Because... engagement... and the useful information, of course
Yes! I tweeted you about this. Glad you made the video.
Not having sub mixes makes this pretty unviable for most people who have used the GoXLR and have had the luxury of hearing volume adjustments that don’t affect their stream.
Until they add that, I don’t think this will take off for streamers.
Routing table somewhat offsets that issue, but not fully.
However, it looks like they probably will update it for sub mixes and therefore this product is pretty exciting!
Thanks for the coverage dude!
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Regarding some of the improvements for future suggested in this video:
I've personally bridged the gap on "I wish there was one more USB device" by putting a Beacn Mix Create into my setup. I send its headphone mix to USB1 main on RCP2, its audience mix to USB2 on RCP2, and I set USB1 Chat routing table to exclude all other USBs. This allows me the many USB devices I would want out of the RCP 2. Granted: I would prefer the RCP 2 let me make virtual USB devices just like my BEACN Mix Create, but it struck me as a valid workflow workaround so I thought I'd mention it. Maybe you can do it more efficiently than I did, but it works for my setups.
It is the PERFECT SIZE!!!!!!!!!!!!
Love it, don't need it any smaller
I actually use the original Rodecaster Pro as the powerhouse for a sports podcast I run at my job and it is fantastic! Able to switch to different segments on the fly with the sound pads!
woah woah woah..... the Roadcaster Pro 2 is making want to switch from my Elgato Wave 3 for my 2 PC setup.
That 2 USB interface is SO dope!
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Great Video! About your last point, the size of the device: Rode included a VESA Mount and an 3/8" mount, so there is no need to place the RodeCaster on your Desk.
I always insta like your vids. As always, it's top quality. Just keep doing what you do!
This is the first time I've ever seen or heard of the dual computer audio interface at the same time. Really impressive.
I had the original for a few years and take the plunge on the new one. I absolutely love it. I hope they keep the updates coming via firmware updates too.
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The size is cool! They even give you the option to Mount it from the back to clear space on your desk. Try that out and see if that works better for you. I don’t believe the other interfaces have a mountable backside like the RCP2 has.
Engagement! Love your videos . This is another great one. Now to find a buyer for my Goxlr. This thing looks sweet!
So happy you did a video on this. I love mine and use it everyday.
You are a guru. Love it. Keep it coming bro.
I cant wait to get the this! i have the first model and its amazing... i also have it paired with the beacn mix create and works wonders!!
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Your content has always been so awesome!!
You can tell how this thing made him very "herni" talking about the rode caster. His gf/wife/bf should be jealous for how much affection he gave this audio interface received.
although I agree it takes up a lot of space, in my experience to make it smaller companies start eliminating buttons and use the same buttons to control many features. And they make the sliders much smaller, sometimes to the point they become almost useless. This makes the controller much more difficult to use. And one of the best things about this machine apparently is the ease of use, the small learning curve. In many setups, this machine will replace several other machines on your desk, and they needed desk space too. I ordered one today, and the only other thing I'll keep on my desk is my Stream Deck XL, as that is still more versatile at the moment to control tasks (especially multitasks) in my DAW and on my computer.
hot damn that 2 USB thing is an incredible workflow! if those faders have DAW control as well it may replace a couple of things in my current workflow holy cow!
I’ve had this since launch, it was nowhere near as easy to set up as the goxlr (when I first got it) it since the firmware updates it’s a lot easier to route the audio I want for my stream. I also think the preamps make it sound way better and the headphones jack make my sennheiser sound great. I think the rcp2 will get even better over time once big streamers get reviews out like Harris, they will hopefully influence Rode on what is needed going forward. Overall I’m pretty happy with it, still learning it’s capabilities.
I think another more common scenario for the second USB port is plugging in a phone to host remote callers on a podcast. Yes, there's Bluetooth but wires are more reliable.
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so its just a really good mixer with streamers in mind, that's pretty cool!
Great video as always, my guy!
2:20 - I believe they tingled your jingles...
I am using a Soundcraft Signature 12 MTK, which is great and awesome and does what it does great. But it has less features (except the amount of audio devices you get on the PC it's connected to, which is 6 in and out plus a master mix) and is much bigger than the RØDECaster Pro II. And you can mount this with a VESA mount and move it around. And it's nice to have a proper size to be able to use it on the fly without fiddling with too small controls.
I bought the original Rodecaster Pro over the GoXLR. I knew in the end I could ultimately stream, podcast, TH-cam with either linking it directly to the PC, but I thought the Rodecaster Pro was going to be easier. Now that the 2 is out I think this is closer to the machine I dreamed of. The only improvements I would make beyond Harris would be the pads become screens or have some way to show you what that grouping does on it. I see it pops up on the side of the screen when you change it, but some people might prefer it right above the pad or on it. I'm slightly disappointed that this is out now that I have the original lol, but I feel like I still have to master this one anyway before I dive into the extra features. I hope a firmware update for the original comes out if they can do anything to replicate some of the new features.
Love your content. Could you show how this could work with a gaming console set up? For example I stream on a box one S and from time to time a PS4. My set up now is a Rodecaster pro, Rode caster Mic, an older Elgato capture card HD60 S, Logitech C 90 1080p WebCam, and a Canon M50.
And now we have sub mixes for this with the newest update. Its awesome!!!
I'm sad.....I bought the first one last year. Now I feel betrayed.
Dante and Virtual Sound Card is probably going to blow your mind when it comes being able to route audio to and from many units. If you want sub mixes and don't need the phone in feature get an X32 or XR18.
Size Issue: The RCP II has both a VESA mount and a 3/8" tread on the bottom to be mounted off your desk/table top, which can free up real estate on your desk/table top. Really useful feature.
You’re the goat!!! Rode should sponsor you. This video makes me want to buy three of them and I only need one lol
the Antelope and a lot of UAD devices can interface with multiple devices at once however they have almost zero control over anything except for output or input volume. But, the quality is crazy good. I'm interested in this little device
You forgot about the mount ability for it. Yes its "big" but a mount takes it off the desk and allows you to move it wherever
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