I've already got a couple of updates for this video.. mostly because I miss spoke in a couple spots.. whoops! Precise Shots increases damage by 70%, not 75% and Explosive Shot is reduced beyond 5 targets, not 8 like I said. Updates on Embellishments. There's more options than just Vivacity and the Crit Lining embellishments. If you're not a player that will do 10s or mythic raiding, a 639 bow isn't going to be in the cards for you, meaning that gun is very, very strong for you. Another option is to just build 2 Dawnthread Linings and call it a day. What I'm doing with my first Sparks for Season 1: I'll be doing both M+ and raiding, I'll be rushing my P.0.W x2 with Darkmoon Sigil Vivacity this week and then in two weeks I'll add a Dawnthread Lining to either my cloak, wrists, belt or boots. It'll just depend on what items I have in those slots. All items that are crafted will be crafted with Critical Strike and Mastery. My goal is to keep 8% haste (or 5200 haste) on my character at all times. That's where my personal playstyle excels the most. Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction 01:43 What's Changed in 11.0? 04:15 Tier Set Bonus 05:36 Stat Priority 07:07 ST Talents 11:04 AoE (M+) Talents 14:34 ST Opener 17:14 ST Rotation Priority 19:34 AoE Opener 22:22 AoE Rotation Priority 24:12 Enchantments 24:50 Consumables 25:48 Items to "Aim" For/Embellishments 27:46 Macros 28:34 WeakAuras 29:47 Outro ST Talent String: C4PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAwADsNGN2GQmNsBAAAAAAmxMzMDzMzwMzMMzMjxMjZAAAAAAAAmhxMmZmZmZyMGDzMMGmZZGsB AoE (M+) Talent String: C4PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAwADsNGNWGQmNsBAAAAAAMzMjZMjxMmZmZmZmhZGDjBAAAAAAAmhxMmZmZmZyMGDzMMGmZZGsB Season 1 Embellishments: th-cam.com/video/jizjrzYam7w/w-d-xo.html 11.0 TWW MM Hunter Guide: th-cam.com/video/x85mWNOmiBw/w-d-xo.html Newest Pet Tame Video: th-cam.com/video/-XUBJJW6pe0/w-d-xo.html Dark Ranger Rework: th-cam.com/video/ehU-X49pjuw/w-d-xo.html 11.0 Pre-patch MM Hunter guide: th-cam.com/video/Htj0frh01qc/w-d-xo.html
@@SilverSin93 Hey! I've added it to my WA section, it's rough right now but I'll have it added to the official txt document when I clean it up and finish making a precise shot WA.
@mattbryant6188 hey Matt! That's awesome, thank you for watching! How are you liking MM so far? So happy to have you in the expedition! Let me know if there's anything I can do to help!
Thanks for the videos, they have been very helpful. I mained hunter from vanilla-cata, and then again in classic when that came out, but was struggling with the retail version of hunter, having spent the last many expansions as a healer. I still feel like my single target DPS is underwhelming (only around 600-700k at ilvl 599), but my AOE DPS is tasty. I need to clean up my rotation a bit still, and work on better focus management I feel. I will continue to follow your guides, and specs, and work on sharpening my skills once more. Thanks again.
Hey Dean! Thank you for watching! So glad you got some value out of this! I'll have a new MM hunter guide out every single patch. It's going to get better with the Dark Ranger changes coming in 11.0.5 as well :) Is there anything you'd like to see added to the next one?
Hey man - thanks for the video! Is MM viable in Normal/Heroic Raids? Or should I switch to BM for Raiding? One cool thing to do is a Raid guide where you explain which build (ST/AOE) you use for which boss :)
Hey Julouts! I actually have one of those videos on my channel if you want to check it out! I'm rocking out with my MM hunter in raid.. it's totally viable!
Hey there! Welcome to my channel and thank you for watching! I'm excited to get back to it in M+ and raiding. How long have you been playing MM hunter? Play any other characters too?
@@MrEggplant I haven't played MM (Or hunter) in retail since DH came out in Legion pre-patch. I've been playing a lot of Classic lately (Wrath and Cata) in which I have been playing hunter only so decided I would give it another go in retail.
Hi! You seem to have good in-depth knowledge of MM hunter overall. Im looking everywhere on some specific % on each stat but cant find anything that even tells the ideal % of each stat. Do you know? Currently im at ~44% crit with double Dawnthread emb, ~10%haste ~13%mastery and vers i dont really know. I would love to see a video about just stats % to reach for example MM, maybe BM/Surv if someone wanna see that aswell. Awesome guide overall, good job!
Hey there! I've had so many comments over the last couple of weeks that I'm behind. For stats, since we're in the first season of an xpac, we really shouldn't have to worry about hitting diminishing returns on our secondary stats, meaning we don't get full value of them. Because of that, I would dump everything you can into Critical Strike and Mastery, which it looks like you're doing... great job! For me personally, I have a haste goal. That goal is around 8%, or 5000-5200 actual haste points. With that amount of haste, I can get a rapid fire and 2 aimed shots out during Volley, with Trueshot. There's no hard facts, other than what I just said, it's all feelcraft. But it works quite well for my quality of life. Is it the best? Maybe, maybe not. But it works for me and it allows me to start and stop effectively during M+ and raid to dodge mechanics and get back to dpsing. Currently, MM gets a ton of value from Crit, thanks to Penetrating Shots in our talent tree. I don't mean to give you a non-answer, but there's really nothing set in stone yet other than Crit/Mastery sims the best and gives us the most damage output currently. BUT, if you're struggling with start and stop casting, or poor focus regeneration, add more haste. Is it optimal? No. But if you're consistently finding yourself missing full casts because something dies or because you had to move, haste is worth it. I hope that helps.
Thank you! I've been working on that mog for over 10 years now. I originally just used the base MoP Challenge Mode gear, but it's grown and changed over the years. The chest piece is the most recent item, coming from DF S2. I appreciate the kind words, I'm very proud of how it turned out!
Ive been having a blast on MM. Good guide. Could you make a delve guide at some point? I think mm could be good in higher delves but require some good kiting and cc usage
I have a ton of walk throughs of high level delves on my channel if you want to check them out! I've done all difficulties solo and without dying! So much fun to try and push myself in these. Now I jus have the king boss left on ?? difficulty XD
Helpful Video, was wondering what is your take on most people ranking MM Hunter in the low tiers comparing to other DPS classes. Really love this class but want to check how impactful could it be. Thank you.
I'll be honest, I don't pay any attention to those rankings. I play MM hunter when it's "good" and when it's "bad". I just enjoy playing my hunter and I can always squeeze the most out of it, even against more meta specs. Currently, MM Hunter is okay at best at ST but really excels in AOE. With the changes coming in 11.0.5, we'll be much stronger and have more options, including a complete rework of Dark Ranger and some really huge QoL changes in our trees that I've been championing for several xpacs now. If you're pushing mythic week 2, MM probably won't make the single target fights initially. But if you're an AoCT raider and do PvP and M+, you're in luck, MM is great!
Hey Jack! Thank you so much for the kind words, I really try to make it a positive place to hang out. I can't wait to hear about all your success this xpac!
I have always wondered if it is ok to not pick Lone Wolf and keep a pet out to help with damage and use that point some where else to make up for that 5% damage loss.
Hey, William! Thanks for watching! That line of thinking is one of the reasons for Lonewolf's nerf from 10% to 5%. So you didn't feel like you were really gimping your damage when you had to lust for example. It's not optimal to run with a pet, but if you want to do that, I say go for it!
im old wow player but kinda new to hunter, and trying to get updatet and see find a good build, btw, do you level with single target build or the aoe buld? 😀
Welcome to the expedition! I usually use my AoE (M+) build for most content outside of raid. Here's the import string if you'd like! C4PAFBU0uAhOaNI6RqWjIx917xADsNGNWGQmtYDAAAAAAYmZGzYGjZMzMzMzMDzMGGDAAAAAAAMDjZMzMzMz0MjxwMDjhZMD2A
Hey Matt, thank you for watching my video! It's probably not been updated on wowhead, but in season 3 and 4 of DF, you wanted to run Volley on ST because of our tier set bonuses. But now that that is gone, you'll want to only use that for AoE.
Hey there! I'll be honest, I'm biased. I always play MM. Good, bad, doesn't matter. Currently MM is ahead of BM. BM is better at ST than MM, but MM is waaaay better at AoE. I would say pick what you think we'll be the most fun and stick with it. You'll still get into groups, you'll still have access to some great new talents that'll help us here in 11.0 and also into 11.0.5 with our tree reworks.
Haha thank you :) I'm so glad I was able to get this video out quickly.. it's going to be a long week at work for me this week. Did you get early access? If so, how are you liking it? If not, what are you looking forward to the most?
@@MrEggplant i did been grinding hard this weekend, loving the xpac so far! I main hunter and been running all 3 specs between lvling, farming gold and renown :) looking forward to raiding and m+ pushing !
i really feel this macro is much more helpful for misdirection, specially when you just set focus the tank and just press your misdirection #showtooltip Misdirection /stopcasting /cast [@focus,exists][@mouseover,help][@pet,exists][@target] Misdirection
Hey, could you elaborate on why choosing "In the Rhythm" is a better choice instead of "Barrage" or even "Deathblow"? 8% Haste seems so useless especially early on in the expansion since we don't have a lot of haste to begin with. Wouldn't it be better to go for more AoE with Barrage or even a bit more ST damage on bosses with Deathblow? **in the M+ build
Hey there. So Barrage by itself doesn't do much damage, plus it pulls things you don't want it to. In our build, you don't have 2 points to spend to make Rapid Fire Barrage usable, without sacrificing other abilities. Plus, it's a 1 min CD that doesn't do much on ST boss fights in M+ and costs focus, where rapid fire normally doesn't. As for In the Rhythm, you cast a ton of rapid fires during a key. We have a chance on every Aimed Shot to reset the CD of rapid fire. Another way to say 8% haste is that you're doubling the amount of haste you have, because we're running a very low haste build. A free 8% haste is pretty huge. In the Rhythm and Steady Focus are the strongest at the beginning of an expansion, so you get your haste from those abilities and then you build straight crit and mastery. Deathblow isn't very good in AoE because it only hits one target and you won't be using a lot of your Kill Shots in AoE. I hope that answers your questions! Good questions my friend, thank you for watching!
Yes, you'll want to run Lone Wolf and not run a pet. Pet's won't do 5% of your damage and their damage isn't buffed with our mastery. Thank you for watching and great question!
That's a great question and I'll record a quick video on how to do it in visual form. But you'll take the WA string that I provide or whoever's WAs you're using provides, and then you'll open up the WA in game (you can just do /wa and it should open up the window). From there you'll go to the top I think it's left hand corner and hit the import button. Then you'll just copy the entire WA string provided and hit import. It'll then show up on your screen and you can move it around to your liking. If you're using my WA strings, they will be positioned in the exact spots mine are, but you can move them around based on your needs. Sorry for the delay!
Thank you for watching! Most of my transmog is available, but the shoulders, pants and boots are not. They're apart of the MoP Challenge Mode set, which was removed from the game in Warlords :( that's the number one question I get on my channel lol
I use Wailing Arrow in the first build (Single Target) and I have it talented. But in the second build (M+/AOE) I don't use it and I don't have it talented. And welcome to playing a hunter! Let me know if I can help you any! - Tyler
Nope it's not, even with our 4 set. It's been that way all beta and they still didn't fix it. You'll still get value during aoe though, as you'll need to use multi-shot before each aimed and rapid to get trick shots, when volley is on cd.
I've played BM hunter in Drafonflight...but man they don't really keep up with the rest atm...I've switched to MM but have a struggle adjusting to it....the aoe dmg is way better though...but I do hope some changes will be made to put some life back in BM tbh. 🥴
Hey Kevin!! Haha thank you, I've been perfecting it over the years. I always go through new mog options each xpac with my singular mog in mind. I don't think I can change it too much more though.
Could somoeone tell to a returning player like me what the shoulder transmog is that we can see at the very beginning of the video? It looks stunning. Thanks in advance!
@@fabian-hugsforhikers Hi Fabian! Thank you for watching my video! Unfortunately, those shoulders are from Challenge Modes in MoP and are no longer in the game.
I only really play MM hunter, that's my thing. If I were to make a guide about BM or Surv, I really wouldn't have the expertise that I do on a MM Hunter.
@highoffdeezmemes6315 I'm sorry, yes you would use both precise shot procs. I weave my precise shot procs in, so for example, if I have all my abilities up, I'll use multi shot, then aimed, which gives me 2 precise shot procs. I'll use one of those procs to get trick shots again, then I'll use rapid fire. Then I'll use the second precise shot proc, then I'll use aimed. That way, I used all my precise shot procs and had my trick shots buffs up to cleave.
@@jaydunna2645 MM doesn't want to use a pet unless they have to. I don't use a pet in m+ or raid. The only time I do is if I have to lust for the group. Then I dismiss. Lone wolf increases damage by 5% when you don't have a pet.
@olivergerling8139 when you get the item crafted, you have to add the embellishment to get it on the weapon. You'll need crests to recraft the weapon to get to higher levels.
@@MrEggplant Thank you, I sadly already craft it. Trying to find a video if it possible to upgrade even though you already made it, otherwise just learned a harsch lesson :D
@@Seminight7 Because the Macros are on screen and there's far too many to put in the description. #showtooltip Trueshot /use Trueshot /use 14 (or 13 for the other trinket slot) /use Blood Fury (racial goes here if you have one)
We haven't used a pet (other than to lust) since Lone Wolf was introduced. We do 5% more damage if we have it talented (like in the video), to not have a pet out.
So our AOE is much stronger than our ST. If you have your TS up for ST pulls, like in dungeons for example, I'm still seeing some pretty good damage and I'm at 540 ilvl right now. It's all about having TS up for the pull and during bullseye on longer fights if possible.
Here's hoping! It has a lot of things against it right now, tree points, focus cost, CD and well.... damage output. Hopefully it'll be viable in the future.
I've been doing really well in ST and in AoE, even without the DF S4 tier set. I get focus starved at times, but the damage is there for me currently at 564 ilvl.
@Kasdeya3113 because guaranteed Sentinel stacks are huge. You can get full stacks very very quickly in both ST and AoE. Once they get above 3 stacks, they can start imploding and doing damage. In AoE, once one enemy gets below 20% with stacks. ALL of them implode for massive damage.
@3r123 I sure hope so. Dark Ranger was what I was looking forward to. But it's pretty underwhelming and you're right, visually it's meh. They ignored it for most of the beta too. I think they will revisit it down the line, especially if it starts to scale better and people play it more. Thank you for watching my friend!
The weirdest thing is I played through the campaign and Alleria literally has better visuals for her auto attack (it’s a massive aura void arrow), so it’s not like they couldn’t add it. I also don’t understand why black arrow doesn’t replace aimed shot with perhaps half the casting time.
It's really not that good at all except for maybe two fights in raid, which are pure ST. Sikran and the Nexus-Princess. But in 11.0.5, that might change with the rework!
@Nick-to6mw Yep, it's frustrating. So many hunters left feedback about that during the beta, but that was their response to it. It might be better once we have more haste but it won't matter by then because we'll have a new tier set. :/
@@MrEggplant Survival is great but MM really seems cobbled together. Its designed so poorly imo with just wasting resources and procs constantly. And BM is just BM. Hopefully they fix MM soon.
@DarkLepus42 I don't think I said it quite that many times, maybe only a couple hundred. I'll figure out another way to phrase each section next time lol. I record these 1 section at a time. Thank you for watching!
@@MrEggplant you think they will make any updates around ST tho its so depressing the numbers i just did bm last season but wanted a change and i dont like Survival
@@TGODxSBRILL I'm glad you asked! That's Grong, the 2nd boss for horde players in Battle for Dazar'alor in Zuldazar (BFA expac). I actually have a video walking you through where to find it on my channel. It's the most recent pet tame video!
@@MrBlastet what parts don't you like? These are big improvements to what we had in DF, especially the general tree. But I'd like to hear your opinion!
@@MrEggplant 100% agree, general tree is more defensive and make me feel more hard in combat. I feel aimed shoot should dont have charges for use and the cast time down fron 2,5seg to 2,2 seg. Delete rapid shoot and come back chimaera shoot like lk, a shoot with optios depending what you use before, like chimaera shoot consume the serpent sting for more damage. Chimaera shoot can do something with explosive shoot or black arrow. So the talents for rapid shoot you can use for combinations with the chimaera shoot foro more efects in m+ or Raid. (Sorry about my inglish) . The buff you get from talent tree are good used if you have 2 aimed shoot or arcane shoot buffed from another talent, i mean 6 seg of damage incresed is too short
Players were complaining that it was too busy in DF and now it's the opposite. I'd like to see Blizzard find a happy median. It just means we need to make the most of those abilities and try to stand still as much as possible while we have low haste. It'll get better as the xpac moves along.
I dont know but i feel like dark ranger does alot more damage with the resets. 3 resets for kill shot already does olmost 3 mil damage in les then 5 sec.
It's very proc reliant. You can have great pulls and really bad ones. Dark ranger really struggles because during Trueshot, you have to keep wasting GCDs on things that aren't rapid fire and aimed shot. Extra Kill Shots, additional charges of Aimed Shot and resets cause a log jam with your opener and during True Shot. The talents would work much better if abilities that proc from it were off the GCD and/or it had better focus regeneration. You get all those extra Aimed Shots, but no focus to spend on them.
I've already got a couple of updates for this video.. mostly because I miss spoke in a couple spots.. whoops! Precise Shots increases damage by 70%, not 75% and Explosive Shot is reduced beyond 5 targets, not 8 like I said. Updates on Embellishments. There's more options than just Vivacity and the Crit Lining embellishments. If you're not a player that will do 10s or mythic raiding, a 639 bow isn't going to be in the cards for you, meaning that gun is very, very strong for you. Another option is to just build 2 Dawnthread Linings and call it a day.
What I'm doing with my first Sparks for Season 1: I'll be doing both M+ and raiding, I'll be rushing my P.0.W x2 with Darkmoon Sigil Vivacity this week and then in two weeks I'll add a Dawnthread Lining to either my cloak, wrists, belt or boots. It'll just depend on what items I have in those slots. All items that are crafted will be crafted with Critical Strike and Mastery. My goal is to keep 8% haste (or 5200 haste) on my character at all times. That's where my personal playstyle excels the most.
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
01:43 What's Changed in 11.0?
04:15 Tier Set Bonus
05:36 Stat Priority
07:07 ST Talents
11:04 AoE (M+) Talents
14:34 ST Opener
17:14 ST Rotation Priority
19:34 AoE Opener
22:22 AoE Rotation Priority
24:12 Enchantments
24:50 Consumables
25:48 Items to "Aim" For/Embellishments
27:46 Macros
28:34 WeakAuras
29:47 Outro
ST Talent String: C4PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAwADsNGN2GQmNsBAAAAAAmxMzMDzMzwMzMMzMjxMjZAAAAAAAAmhxMmZmZmZyMGDzMMGmZZGsB
AoE (M+) Talent String: C4PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAwADsNGNWGQmNsBAAAAAAMzMjZMjxMmZmZmZmhZGDjBAAAAAAAmhxMmZmZmZyMGDzMMGmZZGsB
Season 1 Embellishments: th-cam.com/video/jizjrzYam7w/w-d-xo.html
11.0 TWW MM Hunter Guide: th-cam.com/video/x85mWNOmiBw/w-d-xo.html
Newest Pet Tame Video: th-cam.com/video/-XUBJJW6pe0/w-d-xo.html
Dark Ranger Rework: th-cam.com/video/ehU-X49pjuw/w-d-xo.html
11.0 Pre-patch MM Hunter guide: th-cam.com/video/Htj0frh01qc/w-d-xo.html
can you please add the Macro for Wailing arrow
@@SilverSin93 Hey! I've added it to my WA section, it's rough right now but I'll have it added to the official txt document when I clean it up and finish making a precise shot WA.
@@MrEggplant thank you so much i appreciate it
I’m playing MM Hunter for the first time and your videos have been so helpful!
@mattbryant6188 hey Matt! That's awesome, thank you for watching! How are you liking MM so far? So happy to have you in the expedition! Let me know if there's anything I can do to help!
Thanks for the videos, they have been very helpful. I mained hunter from vanilla-cata, and then again in classic when that came out, but was struggling with the retail version of hunter, having spent the last many expansions as a healer.
I still feel like my single target DPS is underwhelming (only around 600-700k at ilvl 599), but my AOE DPS is tasty. I need to clean up my rotation a bit still, and work on better focus management I feel.
I will continue to follow your guides, and specs, and work on sharpening my skills once more. Thanks again.
Awe Rapid Fire Barrage was the best part of what little new visuals we got. They better buff that soon
@JohnnyFiction it would be c better if it was 1 point in the tree. But the CD, focus cost and points required in the tree don't help it any 😞
Tbh I’m playing it in dungeons and it’s fun as fuck
Thanks for the guide, im looking forward to playing MM in the new expansion
@@Skylliak me too, thank you for watching!! Please let me know how you progress this tier! I always love to hear that sort of thing.
Perfect timing, I'm just about to 80 and have been away for a few seasons.
welcome back, Tommy! Let me know if I can help you any!
What awesome guide made me get my level 70 BM changed to MMHunter and boy is this fun, I really need to get another pet besides the tiger lol
Hey Dean! Thank you for watching! So glad you got some value out of this! I'll have a new MM hunter guide out every single patch. It's going to get better with the Dark Ranger changes coming in 11.0.5 as well :) Is there anything you'd like to see added to the next one?
What an AWESOME video. Thank you so much. Keep up the excellent work. Will be seeing you on discord.
Thank you so much for watching! Can't wait to hear how your progress goes this xpac! - Tyler
Hey man - thanks for the video! Is MM viable in Normal/Heroic Raids? Or should I switch to BM for Raiding? One cool thing to do is a Raid guide where you explain which build (ST/AOE) you use for which boss :)
Hey Julouts! I actually have one of those videos on my channel if you want to check it out! I'm rocking out with my MM hunter in raid.. it's totally viable!
First time viewer. Appreciate the video!
Hey there! Welcome to my channel and thank you for watching! I'm excited to get back to it in M+ and raiding. How long have you been playing MM hunter? Play any other characters too?
@@MrEggplant I haven't played MM (Or hunter) in retail since DH came out in Legion pre-patch. I've been playing a lot of Classic lately (Wrath and Cata) in which I have been playing hunter only so decided I would give it another go in retail.
Hi! You seem to have good in-depth knowledge of MM hunter overall. Im looking everywhere on some specific % on each stat but cant find anything that even tells the ideal % of each stat. Do you know? Currently im at ~44% crit with double Dawnthread emb, ~10%haste ~13%mastery and vers i dont really know. I would love to see a video about just stats % to reach for example MM, maybe BM/Surv if someone wanna see that aswell. Awesome guide overall, good job!
Hey there! I've had so many comments over the last couple of weeks that I'm behind. For stats, since we're in the first season of an xpac, we really shouldn't have to worry about hitting diminishing returns on our secondary stats, meaning we don't get full value of them. Because of that, I would dump everything you can into Critical Strike and Mastery, which it looks like you're doing... great job! For me personally, I have a haste goal. That goal is around 8%, or 5000-5200 actual haste points. With that amount of haste, I can get a rapid fire and 2 aimed shots out during Volley, with Trueshot. There's no hard facts, other than what I just said, it's all feelcraft. But it works quite well for my quality of life. Is it the best? Maybe, maybe not. But it works for me and it allows me to start and stop effectively during M+ and raid to dodge mechanics and get back to dpsing. Currently, MM gets a ton of value from Crit, thanks to Penetrating Shots in our talent tree. I don't mean to give you a non-answer, but there's really nothing set in stone yet other than Crit/Mastery sims the best and gives us the most damage output currently. BUT, if you're struggling with start and stop casting, or poor focus regeneration, add more haste. Is it optimal? No. But if you're consistently finding yourself missing full casts because something dies or because you had to move, haste is worth it. I hope that helps.
@@MrEggplant wow, thank you so much for that answer! Seems like im on the right track. You’re awesome! Happy grinding!
Transmorg is pretty sweet man gg.
Thank you! I've been working on that mog for over 10 years now. I originally just used the base MoP Challenge Mode gear, but it's grown and changed over the years. The chest piece is the most recent item, coming from DF S2. I appreciate the kind words, I'm very proud of how it turned out!
Great video! Thanks mate
Thank you for watching my video!
Ive been having a blast on MM. Good guide.
Could you make a delve guide at some point? I think mm could be good in higher delves but require some good kiting and cc usage
I have a ton of walk throughs of high level delves on my channel if you want to check them out! I've done all difficulties solo and without dying! So much fun to try and push myself in these. Now I jus have the king boss left on ?? difficulty XD
Helpful Video, was wondering what is your take on most people ranking MM Hunter in the low tiers comparing to other DPS classes. Really love this class but want to check how impactful could it be. Thank you.
That's weird because mm seems like it's going to be pretty solid in m+ and raid.
I'll be honest, I don't pay any attention to those rankings. I play MM hunter when it's "good" and when it's "bad". I just enjoy playing my hunter and I can always squeeze the most out of it, even against more meta specs. Currently, MM Hunter is okay at best at ST but really excels in AOE. With the changes coming in 11.0.5, we'll be much stronger and have more options, including a complete rework of Dark Ranger and some really huge QoL changes in our trees that I've been championing for several xpacs now. If you're pushing mythic week 2, MM probably won't make the single target fights initially. But if you're an AoCT raider and do PvP and M+, you're in luck, MM is great!
As somone whose in the discord we appreciate u too mate! Love the video awsome as always! Have a great day!
Hey Jack! Thank you so much for the kind words, I really try to make it a positive place to hang out. I can't wait to hear about all your success this xpac!
@@MrEggplant hey man, love ur discord it's the most welcoming community ever! I always telling my story of how my day went in the lodge every night 😁
I have always wondered if it is ok to not pick Lone Wolf and keep a pet out to help with damage and use that point some where else to make up for that 5% damage loss.
Hey, William! Thanks for watching! That line of thinking is one of the reasons for Lonewolf's nerf from 10% to 5%. So you didn't feel like you were really gimping your damage when you had to lust for example. It's not optimal to run with a pet, but if you want to do that, I say go for it!
You are amazing... thanks
Haha well thank you and thank you for watching my video. Best of luck this xpac, I hope you have a lot of fun, I know I will be!
im old wow player but kinda new to hunter, and trying to get updatet and see find a good build, btw, do you level with single target build or the aoe buld?
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Welcome to the expedition! I usually use my AoE (M+) build for most content outside of raid. Here's the import string if you'd like! C4PAFBU0uAhOaNI6RqWjIx917xADsNGNWGQmtYDAAAAAAYmZGzYGjZMzMzMzMDzMGGDAAAAAAAMDjZMzMzMz0MjxwMDjhZMD2A
@@MrEggplant So it s better to just level with aoe build? not the single target one, so mabye use the single target one in pvp etc?`
Hi, thank you for the guide. Should I use Volly in ST? I've seen that it is in the rotation for ST in the Wowhead guide but I don't understand why.
Hey Matt, thank you for watching my video! It's probably not been updated on wowhead, but in season 3 and 4 of DF, you wanted to run Volley on ST because of our tier set bonuses. But now that that is gone, you'll want to only use that for AoE.
Just curious, just getting into this. Finally finished leveling just as expansion went up. What is true shot macro'd to?
Welcome to the expedition! I have it macro'd to my racial and any on use trinkets.
I play BM last expansion (few seasons 3.2 - 3.3 k raitng), should i switch to MM on this one ? What do you think? Thanks.
BM boss dmg is great, aoe is very bad right now.
Hey there! I'll be honest, I'm biased. I always play MM. Good, bad, doesn't matter. Currently MM is ahead of BM. BM is better at ST than MM, but MM is waaaay better at AoE. I would say pick what you think we'll be the most fun and stick with it. You'll still get into groups, you'll still have access to some great new talents that'll help us here in 11.0 and also into 11.0.5 with our tree reworks.
My fav mm hunter !
Haha thank you :) I'm so glad I was able to get this video out quickly.. it's going to be a long week at work for me this week. Did you get early access? If so, how are you liking it? If not, what are you looking forward to the most?
@@MrEggplant i did been grinding hard this weekend, loving the xpac so far! I main hunter and been running all 3 specs between lvling, farming gold and renown :) looking forward to raiding and m+ pushing !
i really feel this macro is much more helpful for misdirection, specially when you just set focus the tank and just press your misdirection
#showtooltip Misdirection
/stopcasting
/cast [@focus,exists][@mouseover,help][@pet,exists][@target] Misdirection
Hey, could you elaborate on why choosing "In the Rhythm" is a better choice instead of "Barrage" or even "Deathblow"? 8% Haste seems so useless especially early on in the expansion since we don't have a lot of haste to begin with. Wouldn't it be better to go for more AoE with Barrage or even a bit more ST damage on bosses with Deathblow? **in the M+ build
Hey there. So Barrage by itself doesn't do much damage, plus it pulls things you don't want it to. In our build, you don't have 2 points to spend to make Rapid Fire Barrage usable, without sacrificing other abilities. Plus, it's a 1 min CD that doesn't do much on ST boss fights in M+ and costs focus, where rapid fire normally doesn't. As for In the Rhythm, you cast a ton of rapid fires during a key. We have a chance on every Aimed Shot to reset the CD of rapid fire. Another way to say 8% haste is that you're doubling the amount of haste you have, because we're running a very low haste build. A free 8% haste is pretty huge. In the Rhythm and Steady Focus are the strongest at the beginning of an expansion, so you get your haste from those abilities and then you build straight crit and mastery. Deathblow isn't very good in AoE because it only hits one target and you won't be using a lot of your Kill Shots in AoE.
I hope that answers your questions! Good questions my friend, thank you for watching!
Hi! thank you for the video, I was wondering if there was an specific list of PVP talents/rotation
No pet with mm correct? Is it worth the 5% buff?
Yes, you'll want to run Lone Wolf and not run a pet. Pet's won't do 5% of your damage and their damage isn't buffed with our mastery. Thank you for watching and great question!
How do you import/copy your weakauras into the game?
That's a great question and I'll record a quick video on how to do it in visual form. But you'll take the WA string that I provide or whoever's WAs you're using provides, and then you'll open up the WA in game (you can just do /wa and it should open up the window). From there you'll go to the top I think it's left hand corner and hit the import button. Then you'll just copy the entire WA string provided and hit import. It'll then show up on your screen and you can move it around to your liking. If you're using my WA strings, they will be positioned in the exact spots mine are, but you can move them around based on your needs. Sorry for the delay!
love the guide, is the transmog available? shoulders specially
Thank you for watching! Most of my transmog is available, but the shoulders, pants and boots are not. They're apart of the MoP Challenge Mode set, which was removed from the game in Warlords :( that's the number one question I get on my channel lol
@@MrEggplant ohhh so cool man, good content
hello , how are you using wailing arrow without being specced into it thanks. (new hunter)
I use Wailing Arrow in the first build (Single Target) and I have it talented. But in the second build (M+/AOE) I don't use it and I don't have it talented. And welcome to playing a hunter! Let me know if I can help you any! - Tyler
is it not worth using double arcane shot during trueshot?
Nope it's not, even with our 4 set. It's been that way all beta and they still didn't fix it. You'll still get value during aoe though, as you'll need to use multi-shot before each aimed and rapid to get trick shots, when volley is on cd.
I've played BM hunter in Drafonflight...but man they don't really keep up with the rest atm...I've switched to MM but have a struggle adjusting to it....the aoe dmg is way better though...but I do hope some changes will be made to put some life back in BM tbh. 🥴
Do i cast rapidfire on cooldown even if i use my Trueshot CD?
Yes you do. Trueshot makes rapid fire come off cd every 5 seconds, so you want to send it as much as possible during it especially.
Hey, were do i get the macro for trueshot? ty for the video!
@alexandros9178 all my macros are available on a download able txt file on my discord! It also has all my WAs on it!
what is song playing backround?
Hey there! Thank you for watching! That song is called Tsuki by Sam Ock TV.
damn whats your transmog it looks sick
Hey Kevin!! Haha thank you, I've been perfecting it over the years. I always go through new mog options each xpac with my singular mog in mind. I don't think I can change it too much more though.
Could somoeone tell to a returning player like me what the shoulder transmog is that we can see at the very beginning of the video? It looks stunning. Thanks in advance!
@@fabian-hugsforhikers Hi Fabian! Thank you for watching my video! Unfortunately, those shoulders are from Challenge Modes in MoP and are no longer in the game.
Will you make a video about Survival Hunter 11.0 (TWW)
I only really play MM hunter, that's my thing. If I were to make a guide about BM or Surv, I really wouldn't have the expertise that I do on a MM Hunter.
Do you do one multi shot in between each aimshot and rappif fire or do you use two?
@highoffdeezmemes6315 you want to do one multi shot, when use your aimed or your rapid, then use another multi shot, then aimed or rapid etc.
@@MrEggplant Would you not use both your stacks for the multi shot ever? The stacks you get after using Aim shot that is
@highoffdeezmemes6315 I'm sorry, yes you would use both precise shot procs. I weave my precise shot procs in, so for example, if I have all my abilities up, I'll use multi shot, then aimed, which gives me 2 precise shot procs. I'll use one of those procs to get trick shots again, then I'll use rapid fire. Then I'll use the second precise shot proc, then I'll use aimed. That way, I used all my precise shot procs and had my trick shots buffs up to cleave.
@@MrEggplant Will you also do a Srv hunter guide as it's bis rn for dungoens?
New hunter here....what is the point of lone wolf? Im assuming you're gong to be using a pet, so....?
@@jaydunna2645 MM doesn't want to use a pet unless they have to. I don't use a pet in m+ or raid. The only time I do is if I have to lust for the group. Then I dismiss. Lone wolf increases damage by 5% when you don't have a pet.
Is there a WA to keep track of Luna storm ?
Hello! I crafted the weapon and it is only 596. Cant use the darkmoon sigili vivacity or upgrade it to 636, any ideas?
@olivergerling8139 when you get the item crafted, you have to add the embellishment to get it on the weapon. You'll need crests to recraft the weapon to get to higher levels.
@@MrEggplant Thank you, I sadly already craft it. Trying to find a video if it possible to upgrade even though you already made it, otherwise just learned a harsch lesson :D
@olivergerling8139 I can see if I can help you out with the recraft. I have a lot of profession experience. Are you in my discord?
That would be epic! I have messaged you in there
What is the True Shot Macro? Can you share the script? Thank you for responding
Hey there! it's too long to share on youtube, but it's available for download on a txt file over in my discord!
@@MrEggplant why not included in the description of this video?
@@Seminight7 Because the Macros are on screen and there's far too many to put in the description.
#showtooltip Trueshot
/use Trueshot
/use 14 (or 13 for the other trinket slot)
/use Blood Fury (racial goes here if you have one)
How pets work now? When you show st opener where is no pet. We don’t use pet like in legion?
We haven't used a pet (other than to lust) since Lone Wolf was introduced. We do 5% more damage if we have it talented (like in the video), to not have a pet out.
Can you please put up the talent tree for dark ranger pvp , ty
Yeah I can get that talent tree together for you!
What is your toons name so I can keep updated on your guy
@@aaronryan2787 Greeley-Zangarmarsh!
Hey Egg, my AoE seems great but sustained ST damage seems wayyyy low. Is that how it should be?
So our AOE is much stronger than our ST. If you have your TS up for ST pulls, like in dungeons for example, I'm still seeing some pretty good damage and I'm at 540 ilvl right now. It's all about having TS up for the pull and during bullseye on longer fights if possible.
@@MrEggplant Thank you so much! I'm not lining up my TS window properly maybe that's why. How is ST outside TS windows though?
I'm so mäd that barrage/rapidfire barrage isn't worth it :/
hopefully it get's some buffs someday :D
Here's hoping! It has a lot of things against it right now, tree points, focus cost, CD and well.... damage output. Hopefully it'll be viable in the future.
I was just playing MM hunter just a few hours ago. I find it fun enough, I just wish the damage was higher (of course).
I’m clapping single target atm
I've been doing really well in ST and in AoE, even without the DF S4 tier set. I get focus starved at times, but the damage is there for me currently at 564 ilvl.
@@MrEggplant Good to know, I appreciate you saying so.
just wondering for the AOE build, would it be terrible to put those last 2 flex points into wailing arrow?
@@Kasdeya3113 to get to WA, you'll need 3 points. 2 points for the Legacy of the Windrunners and then 1 point for WA.
@@MrEggplant ahh ok. sorry about that
@Kasdeya3113 no problem at all :) it's a good question. If you want WA in AoE, you have to lose Salvo and small game hunter sadly.
also why eyes closed in the Sentinel talent tree instead of Sentinel watch? isn't that just more cooldown for your trueshot?
@Kasdeya3113 because guaranteed Sentinel stacks are huge. You can get full stacks very very quickly in both ST and AoE. Once they get above 3 stacks, they can start imploding and doing damage. In AoE, once one enemy gets below 20% with stacks. ALL of them implode for massive damage.
Do you think blizz will update the visuals for dark ranger? Honestly, so underwhelming it shouldn’t be hard to tell that you’re a dark ranger. Sad
@3r123 I sure hope so. Dark Ranger was what I was looking forward to. But it's pretty underwhelming and you're right, visually it's meh. They ignored it for most of the beta too. I think they will revisit it down the line, especially if it starts to scale better and people play it more. Thank you for watching my friend!
The weirdest thing is I played through the campaign and Alleria literally has better visuals for her auto attack (it’s a massive aura void arrow), so it’s not like they couldn’t add it.
I also don’t understand why black arrow doesn’t replace aimed shot with perhaps half the casting time.
@3r123 yeah when they added it, it was pretty half baked. It's a start, but it feels incomplete.
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Thank you for watching, Trucker! I hope you found some information helpful in my video. What would you like to see added in the next one?
can we not play dark ranger in m+and raid
It's really not that good at all except for maybe two fights in raid, which are pure ST. Sikran and the Nexus-Princess. But in 11.0.5, that might change with the rework!
BM or MM for 70-80 leveling?
I only play MM, and it was really fun to level!
hello hello,
great video.
cuold u share keybinds ?ty
Hey there! Thank you for watching! I'm not the guy to ask about keybinds.. sorry!
So the coolest change in my opinion, the fact that you can fire off 2 arcane shots rapid fire during true shot aura, is not even utilized? Rip :(
@Nick-to6mw Yep, it's frustrating. So many hunters left feedback about that during the beta, but that was their response to it. It might be better once we have more haste but it won't matter by then because we'll have a new tier set. :/
@@MrEggplant Survival is great but MM really seems cobbled together. Its designed so poorly imo with just wasting resources and procs constantly. And BM is just BM. Hopefully they fix MM soon.
so now lets go ahead x1000 :P
@DarkLepus42 I don't think I said it quite that many times, maybe only a couple hundred. I'll figure out another way to phrase each section next time lol. I record these 1 section at a time. Thank you for watching!
i keep seein people sayin mastery is the best stat but im not sure
@lÁzráeLI I would just stack mastery and crit and you'll be golden.
@@MrEggplant you think they will make any updates around ST tho its so depressing the numbers i just did bm last season but wanted a change and i dont like Survival
where do you get this pet?
It’s Grong isn’t it from BDA?
@@carthage10
Youre right
Like the others said, this pet is from Battle for Dazar'alor, which is a raid in the BFA expansion.
Horde only FYI
@@thebeatts or just faction swap after getting it
Where the heck can you tame your pet? lol
@@TGODxSBRILL I'm glad you asked! That's Grong, the 2nd boss for horde players in Battle for Dazar'alor in Zuldazar (BFA expac). I actually have a video walking you through where to find it on my channel. It's the most recent pet tame video!
@@MrEggplant thank you sir! I will check it out now
Mmmmm good video bro. For me the mm tree is not good at all and really really feel something is not good but dont know what 🤔
@@MrBlastet what parts don't you like? These are big improvements to what we had in DF, especially the general tree. But I'd like to hear your opinion!
@@MrEggplant 100% agree, general tree is more defensive and make me feel more hard in combat. I feel aimed shoot should dont have charges for use and the cast time down fron 2,5seg to 2,2 seg. Delete rapid shoot and come back chimaera shoot like lk, a shoot with optios depending what you use before, like chimaera shoot consume the serpent sting for more damage. Chimaera shoot can do something with explosive shoot or black arrow. So the talents for rapid shoot you can use for combinations with the chimaera shoot foro more efects in m+ or Raid. (Sorry about my inglish) . The buff you get from talent tree are good used if you have 2 aimed shoot or arcane shoot buffed from another talent, i mean 6 seg of damage incresed is too short
I wish mm rotation wasnt so simple :( it gets boring fast
Players were complaining that it was too busy in DF and now it's the opposite. I'd like to see Blizzard find a happy median. It just means we need to make the most of those abilities and try to stand still as much as possible while we have low haste. It'll get better as the xpac moves along.
I dont know but i feel like dark ranger does alot more damage with the resets.
3 resets for kill shot already does olmost 3 mil damage in les then 5 sec.
It's very proc reliant. You can have great pulls and really bad ones. Dark ranger really struggles because during Trueshot, you have to keep wasting GCDs on things that aren't rapid fire and aimed shot. Extra Kill Shots, additional charges of Aimed Shot and resets cause a log jam with your opener and during True Shot. The talents would work much better if abilities that proc from it were off the GCD and/or it had better focus regeneration. You get all those extra Aimed Shots, but no focus to spend on them.
In sims it's about 20% behind.
I miss old AoE rotation like on a mage.
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