Half the price isn’t the only factor there. The qualities 100% subpar compared to Milwaukee and Rigid. As I also have all of them. I prefer rigid as it’s cheaper than Milwaukee and I had it first. But if I was to be going in blind Milwaukee is the easy choice. Pay a little more up front but get worlds more options and durability.
Great video! As a carpenter I recently bought my first pack out system and went with Rigid. For the money I'm very happy with it. Your videos definitely helped on the decision making. Keep it up!
And you can add 2 boxes for the price of one Milwaukee. No half size boxes but I have a number of tools in tote bags I just toss into the crate when I need them.
This is without question, the best video of this type I've ever seen. It will be come a reference for me when showing systems to other users. FANTASTIC work!
@@JakeWeihe I just shared this video to a large online community of classical music engineers that I am a part of. They are the people who travel the world recording symphonies and choirs. Some won Grammy's this year. We had a recent discussions about products such as these and this kind of information is exactly what they were asking for. Some of your accessories will be helpful as well. Best of luck and Merry Christmas to you and your family. (I'll be ordering a couple accessories from you for my Packout after the holidays are over)
Klein ModBox. Conduit Bender, Level placements on the handle. Klein accessories for the side rails. Measurements on lids of boxes up to 18 inches. As well as lifting the lids it’ll stays up. With a lot of coming soon from Kl a ModBox, they’ll continue to get my money.
Klein came out with something pretty good. I think milwaukee is probably the best for it's own brand. I went with Rigid though, the prices for milwaukee/klein are pretty high and I feel rigid offers good enough durability to match. They just need to hurry up with the drawer system.
I work security at construction sites. Milwaukee boxes are the #2 most sought after items by people looking to steal, all systems are targeted, the red boxes grow legs at any and all times of day the others when opportunities present themselves. Just an observation for those interested. I can't justify for myself Milwaukees price tag since I dyi, looking for an affordable option, thanx for all the valuable information!@
A very Real Consideration I made when talking myself out of TTI even though Rigid or Milwaukee would have been the best at what they did (@ the time) I was thinking about kobalt as an alt just because I knew it would go on clearance sale near me and it wouldn't be the most coveted thing on the sight being Black. But Flex( Grey) and Hart (Also Black n blue) went on clearance so those became my choices and I couldn't be happier for Light and Heavy duty projects and Gigs as I Work in Clubs doing DJ/Sound ( And Light Security B4) but I want to become an apprentice in a trade so il find myself on worksites soon enough.
Husky came to play. People are saying it doesn't have enough boxes, but keep in mind these just came out. I'm really inpressed and for the money i dont know if I could justify modbox or packout. We had rigid at my old job and i despise those boxes. Ours wouldn't stay together.
And people do. You basically need a van with bullet proof glass and special locks to keep them safe. Or build a unit inside your van or trailer like a giant safe with industrial grade locks and interior lighting.
I really appreciate your videos. Have the Ridgid 2.0 and am hoping they continue to grow the brand. Love the mom and dad score. They always no best 😂 looking forward to 3D printing my own and seeing what you con up with for the 2.0.
As a worker who only has a car right now and limitied vehicle spacw, and is tired of lugging tools on and off the jobsite, the removavle wheels of rigid seem like the best choice for me. Thank you for this comprehensive review.
I got the Milwaukee for Christmas last year and I love it. It feels more rugged than others I've seen, and, like a lot of their tools, you can tell it was designed by people who work for a living. My only gripe was the non removable handle since I have a tonneau cover on my truck. Technically it is removable by taking out 2 screws at the base of the handle. I found a company who makes a spring-pin to replace those screws (mentioned in this video) and it was a simple & complete solution to that issue.
@@savageopress6273 Mine came from a company called Neat Tools. If you Google "Neat Tools packout handle pins" it looks like they changed to some janky plastic switch thing. I ran across another brand called Metalmark that looks like what I have. Maybe a patent issue.
Like so many others, I have discovered that the tool you need is always in the bottom box. I’m getting really tired of taking apart a stack just to get that tool out. I’m trying to find a system with decent drawers (or build my own) that can travel as easily as these, and has a drawer retention mechanism that doesn’t interfere with other drawers. In other words, the drawers stay in place until you unlock them and whatever locking mechanism doesn’t just flop down over the drawer unit below. I’m thinking the Milwaukee drawers might be the answer, paired with the dolly. Durability and accessories also play a role. If you could do a review of the systems with drawers, I’d really appreciate it. Thanks for doing all these videos. And your product designs are awesome! That also figures into my decision to be honest. If the system doesn’t have Weihe Design mod options, it gets a lower score. ;)
I'm sorry to say, but your bias for Milwaukee shows a lot. You get too caught up on modding. I can tell you that 98% of buyers don't care about 3D printed mods for their mobile storage. This is something that you let impact your rating in multiple categories. Also, I find it odd that you prefer submitting a warranty claim on a website over getting a replacement from the store. You might be the only one that feels that way. You also gave Milwaukee a pass for being the only non-removable handle because it can be modded to fix it and their will be a replacement handle coming out next year. A comparison video shouldn't be considering future fixes, and it certainly shouldn't be considering DIY solutions to manufacturer design flaws lol. The handle seriously limits how you can store the bottom box, and makes it so it can't be placed into most covered truck beds. It's a pretty big deal. On durability, you gave a couple of these products a lower score just because they were new and didn't have a long standing reputation yet. Sure Milwaukee holds ups and has a history for it, but You can't just rate these other brands based on what ifs. Twisting the lid also isn't a good indicator at all. If you're not willing to do actual durability testing, you'd be better to research the durability of the materials they are made of and measuring thickness of delicate connection points. Otherwise, don't include durability in your scoring at all. There are plenty of plastics that are WAY more durable than their less flexible counter parts. Flexibility is not the opposite of durability. Lastly, price should certainly have a bigger impact on the rating, rather than being 1 of the multiple categories. I mean Milwaukee and Klein both cost twice as much as Husky, 100%+ more in cost, but only a 3% difference in score lol.
I went with the rigid and I'm impressed. I dedicated my bottom box to Milwaukee tools. It holds three Milwaukee nail guns. A 15ga trim nailer, 18ga narrow crown stapler/brad nailer and 22 degree framing nailer as well as an angle grinder, orbital sander, charger, two batteries and all the bullets and sanding pads I need for the various tools.
Very thorough! Thank you! I have the Ridgid system for my photography gear and will continue with it. I do wish there was a way to mount a hook for cables and cords, but otherwise I'm pretty happy with it. The price point was right and I've only felt a need to pick up the 2.0 in the roller as the tall handle previously prevented me from closing the privacy shade in the cargo area of my SUV. Now I can do that. I'm looking for a cooler to add to the system before they are completely gone and the small organizers will need to be ordered as they've never been stocked locally. I really like the small Husky organizer that I've seen in the store. I did not realize it was in conjunction with this new system. Very nice.
I have the Rigid system as well. and Im with you that I wish Rigid had some more options but for what it is it's fantastic. I was lucky to find the cooler and the smaller organizers in store. I can't wait until Rigid finally releases drawers for their system.
I’ve been using the ridgid system for over 10 years. Bought a set of the 2.0 and the small organizers…. This week I’ve bought 4 sets of packout drawers. Ridgid definitely for the price, but if you need variety, it’s packout. You’re impressed by the husky, but they charge too often and probably won’t be available in a couple years. Buy once, cry once. Thx for the video!
ive had my packout right around 3 years, i might have to buy another soon because it started leaking. it's always had weak drawers though which makes me want to wait until they have some sort of upgrade. the lock rings are soft worthless plastic, and the drawers really need to be stiffer. the box locking together is great and solid and the reason i buy them, but i just wish the boxes were stronger on the inside
Did you have issues with the handles that lock the boxes together? Mine wore out after a year of use. The boxes would come apart and fall off. I ended up ditching the system and went with another brand
@@mikestoolfun the rubber tore off several of the locking handles, but they all still lock/ unlock ok. I bought the packout drawers, but after a few weeks they are starting to sag… i have to push up on the lids to get the locking bar to lock. Think I’ll be returning these and try out the new stack tech by tough built, when the drawes become available.
I’m a Dj and I have 2 Milwaukee packout box’s with all my gear lots of power wires XLRs RCAs you name it alot of light clamps few tools and let me tell you at the end of every event we throw the thing around from the stage n have never had issues I love mine a lot
I want the PackOut but "settled" for Rigid. I love Packout and the products give me the fizz, however as I'm just a professional homeowner and not a contractor nor bluecollar, there is 0 justification for that price-point for just the fact that it is "nice." I'm happy with my Rigid collection though.
What's even better is it's so easy to remove the handle with just the push of a button and just clips right back on. You can even bolt the wall mounts to the back of the handle rods to have a handy place to hang a box off the back when you're on the job. Once Ridgid gets the drawers to market (they're saying March now) they'll be going at the bottom of my stack and staying there. These boxes are made in Israel so the delay in drawers could be related to that.
@@a.j.montie1083 that must be an early run since Ridgid apparently stated a couple weeks ago that they'd been delayed until March. Who knows. I'm also hoping half size organizers will become available soon as well.
Personally, i decided packout for all my expensive tools, while using rigid for hand tools and parts organization. Rigid's platform and affordability allows me to organize even the small things like pex parts, wire nuts, etc. Overall great video, keep up the great work!!! ✌️
They are hard to find. I’ve only seen them in store twice and they were available online a few times this summer. Hopefully, @homedepot will have them on display in more stores for the holidays. I suggest looking online often until you see them available. They are nice boxes 👍
It isn't easy to control a point total for the specific brands' entire universe of boxes and accessories. Packout is CRUSHING everyone right now and there seems to be no end in sight. There are some things I like better with the Ridgid system but they don't have enough options out. If you only need the 3-box stack then maybe you can have a legit comparison but I'm not even in the trades and I use many of the pack-out options. One of the most important pieces pack out has that allow for a majority of my uses is the mounting plates. It's too bad Ridgid did not come up with a flat (non-wall hanging) mounting plate option.
I am a Master HVAC & Master Plumber/ Gas Fitter contractor I have Husky Ridgid & Milwaukee all of them are good Ridgid & Milwaukee are. Step above Husky and Milwaukee is the best but once again all three that I have you can’t go wrong .Very good & informative video .
What I'd love to see (and nobody has done) is open up the case to examine the locking mechanisms. How much is plastic? How replaceable are the springs? It's great that the contents of the box are protected against moisture, but are the mechanisms? For those of us who work/live in coastal areas, having the mechanism rust and fail would be a decision point.
After numerous vids I finally jumped into Milwaukee… I wanted to like Husky for the colors alone, but not having the half stacking feature was a deal breaker.
Just bought the Hart one. Going into it, I knew it wasn't going to be as good as the others, but I wasn't using it for tools, and I had plans of modifying the inside of the cases. $74 for the 3 stack was perfect. The one thing that would have been nice, is if the cart was separate from the boxes.
I am wondering how strong the Klien Tools accessory magnet is. I run the large drawer and the medium box in the back of a police squad car and I was thinking I would get two magnets and run them both on the right side, one on each box, then run my bolt cutters and entry tool vertically between the two magnets. Not sure if the magnets are strong enough to do this, as I usually only see the magnet being used to hold screwdrivers. Any help would be great! Thanks.
The magnets are very strong in pretty confident it can hold those tools. In addition to them being heavier they also have a bigger surface area so they hold even better than screwdrivers
This is one awesome video. Very well done. Maybe for the future: in your score, see if you could add something for tracking different box functionalities (for instance: drawers are a huge plus for bottom of the stack boxes, but sacrifice internal volume).
I used Dewalt rigid and Milwaukee and I have a trailer. Sometimes I would forget to strap stuff down and the boxes would fall over Milwaukee was the only one that would not break at latches and stay together as far as durability. I have to support Milwaukee pack out, and I am not brand loyal.
Probably Milwaukee because of how many things are available for it. I like that it has the fattest tires. But being an electrician i also really like Kleins thought on bender/broom storage.
Wanted to say that I love your videos and come here to give an update on my Ridgid Pro Gear 2.0 boxes. I have 2 small, 1 medium and 1 large with the wheels. Had the boxes strapped to the bed of my work truck (flat bed crane truck) similar to my coworkers packout. The bottom boxes connecting handle failed when i took a turn and scattered the bozes across a busy road. Thankfully no boxes were ran over and the locking latches didn't fail but all of the boxes are damaged and need to be replaced. Its been a chore to get anyone from the warrenty department on the phone (as of this writing 5 days in) no one has returned voice messages or been able to be reached on the phone. I plan to get my boxes replaced, but will probably go with Toughbuilt moving forward.
I can’t believe that ridged is the only one that has made the drawers that can be attached to the wheels with handle. I don’t want to have to unstack my boxes anytime I want to get into my bottom box.
Also one category to include would be “price per cubic inch of storage” (Ridgid wins with their XL box. It’s half the price of packout) I just bought six XL’s I’m gonna get another 20 on Black Friday and I think the packout chest which is huge for my paint and sheetrock stuff.
Omg! I'm headed to your site.. Any deals if I buy 1 of all your designs?? Also, I have makita box system, dewalt, milwaukee pac... Want to hook them all together... Why? Because they're all tool specific.. My festool stuff only comes out when I see homeowner has a $200k car sitting in the driveway lol
Ah... Grasshopper. The modbox gets extra points for the orange color/theft deterrent...it is noticeable walking off under someone else's power... and wherever it is it will garner attention, making it less desireable to thieves. Orange may be worthy of a two point bump. Sometimes UGLY is a beautiful thing!
@@JakeWeihe If you were to become the Doug of Tools, I'd dig that. As entertaining as Doug is, I will never purchase any of those cars. Sometimes I just need to know the good and the bad about tools before I purchase them.
Really nice videos. You speak well, introduce pauses, smile and narrate well. The pace of the videos are good, good angles, good camera and I liked and appreciate all the reviews, tests, feature descriptions and the test score in the end was a great idea too. You gained a subscriber. On the topic of the storage systems themselves...it always amazes me how the industrial designers/engineers miss obvious things YT reviewers spot immediately. I mean it is just incredible. Even the almighty packout system, clearly a winner in many people's hearts, does idiotic things like lid not opening whilst rear handle is extended and not being able to lock/unlock boxes with other boxes on top. It's as if they noticed these towards the end of their deadlines and had no more time to change it. But all that would be needed is to have focus groups....or even better...have youtubers get prototypes early on, with non disclosure agreement to publish the videos only once the company has finalized the product...let youtubers keep the product in return for feedback.
I just like having different stuff.. everyone has Milwaukee. Nobody takes my dewalt batteries. I love Klein handtools so I’d probably go mod box just to have a quality product that’s different
@robinwendt5527 yeah..that's my point..everyone has Milwaukee. There's no difference in longevity or quality. Milwaukee impact driver may have a little more torque..but I do commercial refrigeration/hvac and my dewalt stuff as been great. The only time I couldn't break a nut loose with it is because it sheared the whole stud off instead lol.
I would say the most unique thing about rigid is that you can use the handle as handtruck for light items as well is having the ability to use small boxes instead of just big ones that can handle the wheels
Great video and very informative. Just ordered my packout with the black friday pricing. Already ordered the handle removal kit , to fit it in my truck cant really wait for the manufacture to release sometime in 24, and saw your work top attachment so will check that out on your site as well as some of your other things. I chose the packout because i have seen them in use and think it will work for what i do.
I run packout. The availability locally was a big factor, and the 4 caster roller was perfect. I do maintenatenance for automotive facilities. 2 drawer on Bottom, then 3 drawer, midsize waterproof box, midsize fastener bin. I wish they offered side mount options. Im also concerned with the sagging of the drawers after only a few months. Hot weather may take a massive impact. We'll see.
I went with DeWalt tough system 2.0 because HD had it as a kit for $178. And Tstack, versastack, Stanley fat max pro stack fit with it. Was going to go with rigid but I read a lot of complaints about the weak handle and I was concerned they would not deliver on the options of products like DeWalt. Milwaukee was first choice but couldn't justify the money.
I wish other reviews were as complete and honest about the products as this one. It seems lately, most 'reviews' are actually just salesman's demonstrations like you used to see in the middle of the night on those shopping channels. Guys like Billy Mays going 'It slices, it dices!' is the vibe nowadays on 95% of the reviews on YT. They are not honest reviews, just a low quality sales pitch with Amazon links in the description. That's why I bought the worst mouse I've ever owned, the MX Master 3. For years, no one had an honest review of it and they led me astray. Thank you for being a good example to those sales-reviewer shills! Because Amazon links are fine, as long as you give an honest review.
I have the rigid also, use it for detailing and it's been great over the last year plus I ceramic coated the outside and added a little more rubber gasket for water leaks and it's been leaving it outside in heavy rain or leaving it on the the back of the cargo carrier
Hopefully for those of you who are working in the field are smart enough to know better than to be rolling these in and out of people's houses. You don't need all the tools that are in that box or any concession in order to get a job done. Go out to your truck, grab the ones you need at the moment or put them in a tool belt and then proceed to work. Don't be dragging that all over the homeowner's properties and inside their house screwing up their furniture, carpet and flooring. If you work on a construction site, these kind of come in handy. But after a while, you get realize how annoying it is to unstack and re-stack a bunch of boxes when you're using. Maybe 10% of the tools in there during a day's time. Especially if what you do as a repeated pattern all day long, you're probably only using a handful of tools that doesn't require 14 boxes on a wheel system to be drug in like you're showing off a new car.
I agree with trying to bring in just what you need, but that is dependent on the scope of the work being done. I mean you should always clean up any mess you make in someone's home or if you can't take the cleaning bill anyhow. If the goal were to show off I'd roll in with all matching festool boxes and tables to set up. Of course you bring in a $2k-ish festool dust extractor or two also. lol
It's not just a matter if portability. For me as a painter I have alot of different tools and being able to organize them in these boxes increases efficiency. I will take the boxes I need and leave in my truck and pull them out if the box and put then back in when I'm done. Always find the tools I need this way
yea like he said during a build out or construction is different than a handyman. Bringing a Rigid with Paint and Caulking on it to a gig in a Nice Restaurant or Office for an electric or IT job are diff examples where two diff sets (or systems Like me) for light and Heavy duty work can be better @@MIKEC2000
Fantastic video. Thanks for showing the variety of features. Have you looked at the Craftsman brand? I just ran across them when looking at making a solar powered portable generator at Lowe’s.
FYI, I think a way to have a useful measurement for interior size would be to measure the volume... e.g. fill to the brim with water, then dump into a bucket or something in order to measure the amount. 🤷
Yeah I considered that… but they are all pretty close and it wouldn’t really get the practical size. In a future video I’ll do a real tool fit test. I also don’t want to deal with gallons of water to see which one holds +-10% of the other box.
Husky stuff , not just the box ,is actually very good for its price , i have use all brands , im not a Milwaukee fan boy , and husky hasn’t disappoint, people often overlook it for the low price .
I bought the Husky build out 2 weeks ago, and was very happy with it initially. After ordering additional items to expand the system from Home Depot and finding out they aren’t available and HD cancelling my order. I returned the system and bought the Milwaukee packout. Yes it’s more money but I was able to get what I needed.
I bought the Rigid over 10 years ago. Used them almost dailey, in and out of jobs . They still 👍 great. They just need the drawer units , and maybe a flip out bottom roller. I will also mention I have the first gen and second gen rolling box. I actually like the older one because I can lift it with both hands to put in truck, the handle goes down further.
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Price should have a higher rating in the score. The husky buildout is half the price of the Milwaukee. That’s a crazy difference.
Half the price isn’t the only factor there. The qualities 100% subpar compared to Milwaukee and Rigid. As I also have all of them. I prefer rigid as it’s cheaper than Milwaukee and I had it first. But if I was to be going in blind Milwaukee is the easy choice. Pay a little more up front but get worlds more options and durability.
@roberttruesdell6151 Milwaukee still has issues tho…
Electricians will buy Klein regardless
The only thing they won't buy and use with Klein on it is a broom and dustpan
Great video! As a carpenter I recently bought my first pack out system and went with Rigid. For the money I'm very happy with it. Your videos definitely helped on the decision making. Keep it up!
And you can add 2 boxes for the price of one Milwaukee. No half size boxes but I have a number of tools in tote bags I just toss into the crate when I need them.
I just bought a rigid three piece one week before holidays for 110 dollars including taxes. Plus it has three trays with it.
This is without question, the best video of this type I've ever seen. It will be come a reference for me when showing systems to other users. FANTASTIC work!
Wow, thanks!
@@JakeWeihe I just shared this video to a large online community of classical music engineers that I am a part of. They are the people who travel the world recording symphonies and choirs. Some won Grammy's this year.
We had a recent discussions about products such as these and this kind of information is exactly what they were asking for. Some of your accessories will be helpful as well.
Best of luck and Merry Christmas to you and your family. (I'll be ordering a couple accessories from you for my Packout after the holidays are over)
Thank you! Merry Christmas!
Klein ModBox. Conduit Bender, Level placements on the handle. Klein accessories for the side rails. Measurements on lids of boxes up to 18 inches. As well as lifting the lids it’ll stays up. With a lot of coming soon from Kl a ModBox, they’ll continue to get my money.
Thank you from all of us who are trying to be more organized! 👏
Klein came out with something pretty good. I think milwaukee is probably the best for it's own brand. I went with Rigid though, the prices for milwaukee/klein are pretty high and I feel rigid offers good enough durability to match. They just need to hurry up with the drawer system.
I work security at construction sites. Milwaukee boxes are the #2 most sought after items by people looking to steal, all systems are targeted, the red boxes grow legs at any and all times of day the others when opportunities present themselves. Just an observation for those interested.
I can't justify for myself Milwaukees price tag since I dyi, looking for an affordable option, thanx for all the valuable information!@
A very Real Consideration I made when talking myself out of TTI even though Rigid or Milwaukee would have been the best at what they did (@ the time) I was thinking about kobalt as an alt just because I knew it would go on clearance sale near me and it wouldn't be the most coveted thing on the sight being Black. But Flex( Grey) and Hart (Also Black n blue) went on clearance so those became my choices and I couldn't be happier for Light and Heavy duty projects and Gigs as I Work in Clubs doing DJ/Sound ( And Light Security B4) but I want to become an apprentice in a trade so il find myself on worksites soon enough.
What’s the #1 get stolen
@@cashisgreen6383batteries probably
@@cashisgreen6383 Milwaukee tools 😂😂
Husky came to play. People are saying it doesn't have enough boxes, but keep in mind these just came out. I'm really inpressed and for the money i dont know if I could justify modbox or packout. We had rigid at my old job and i despise those boxes. Ours wouldn't stay together.
The Milwaukee screams "STEAL ME!!"
And people do. You basically need a van with bullet proof glass and special locks to keep them safe. Or build a unit inside your van or trailer like a giant safe with industrial grade locks and interior lighting.
Anything tool related screams steal me to the right person…doesn’t matter what it is.
My 9mm dispenser screams. "Try It"
If people want your shit they will steal it. People steal job boxes out of trucks at hotels.
Can confirm
I really appreciate your videos. Have the Ridgid 2.0 and am hoping they continue to grow the brand. Love the mom and dad score. They always no best 😂 looking forward to 3D printing my own and seeing what you con up with for the 2.0.
A great video. The Orange color of the Klein Mod Box is awesome in my opinion. 😊
As a worker who only has a car right now and limitied vehicle spacw, and is tired of lugging tools on and off the jobsite, the removavle wheels of rigid seem like the best choice for me. Thank you for this comprehensive review.
I got the Milwaukee for Christmas last year and I love it. It feels more rugged than others I've seen, and, like a lot of their tools, you can tell it was designed by people who work for a living.
My only gripe was the non removable handle since I have a tonneau cover on my truck. Technically it is removable by taking out 2 screws at the base of the handle. I found a company who makes a spring-pin to replace those screws (mentioned in this video) and it was a simple & complete solution to that issue.
do you have a link to those springs by chance
@@savageopress6273 Mine came from a company called Neat Tools. If you Google "Neat Tools packout handle pins" it looks like they changed to some janky plastic switch thing.
I ran across another brand called Metalmark that looks like what I have. Maybe a patent issue.
They have a new removable handle coming
@@savageopress6273Neat Tools
Good video but rating Husky as second makes everything suspect lol
What’s everyone think of the mod box?
Like so many others, I have discovered that the tool you need is always in the bottom box. I’m getting really tired of taking apart a stack just to get that tool out. I’m trying to find a system with decent drawers (or build my own) that can travel as easily as these, and has a drawer retention mechanism that doesn’t interfere with other drawers. In other words, the drawers stay in place until you unlock them and whatever locking mechanism doesn’t just flop down over the drawer unit below. I’m thinking the Milwaukee drawers might be the answer, paired with the dolly. Durability and accessories also play a role. If you could do a review of the systems with drawers, I’d really appreciate it. Thanks for doing all these videos. And your product designs are awesome! That also figures into my decision to be honest. If the system doesn’t have Weihe Design mod options, it gets a lower score. ;)
Packout makes 2 and 3 drawer units. They also have a unit with a flip up door that can be accessed while in the stack.
Pack out sells a dolly, that you can put the drawers or the big door unit on the bottom, plus you always have a dolly on hand.
I'm sorry to say, but your bias for Milwaukee shows a lot. You get too caught up on modding. I can tell you that 98% of buyers don't care about 3D printed mods for their mobile storage. This is something that you let impact your rating in multiple categories.
Also, I find it odd that you prefer submitting a warranty claim on a website over getting a replacement from the store. You might be the only one that feels that way.
You also gave Milwaukee a pass for being the only non-removable handle because it can be modded to fix it and their will be a replacement handle coming out next year. A comparison video shouldn't be considering future fixes, and it certainly shouldn't be considering DIY solutions to manufacturer design flaws lol. The handle seriously limits how you can store the bottom box, and makes it so it can't be placed into most covered truck beds. It's a pretty big deal.
On durability, you gave a couple of these products a lower score just because they were new and didn't have a long standing reputation yet. Sure Milwaukee holds ups and has a history for it, but You can't just rate these other brands based on what ifs. Twisting the lid also isn't a good indicator at all. If you're not willing to do actual durability testing, you'd be better to research the durability of the materials they are made of and measuring thickness of delicate connection points. Otherwise, don't include durability in your scoring at all. There are plenty of plastics that are WAY more durable than their less flexible counter parts. Flexibility is not the opposite of durability.
Lastly, price should certainly have a bigger impact on the rating, rather than being 1 of the multiple categories. I mean Milwaukee and Klein both cost twice as much as Husky, 100%+ more in cost, but only a 3% difference in score lol.
I went with the rigid and I'm impressed.
I dedicated my bottom box to Milwaukee tools. It holds three Milwaukee nail guns. A 15ga trim nailer, 18ga narrow crown stapler/brad nailer and 22 degree framing nailer as well as an angle grinder, orbital sander, charger, two batteries and all the bullets and sanding pads I need for the various tools.
Where did you get your rigid? I can't find the system at home depot
I got mine from Home Depot @@CycloneBooth
I found it at home Depot
I put all of my DeWalt tools in Husky tool boxes. Seems to keep all the job site thieves away. 😂
Very thorough! Thank you!
I have the Ridgid system for my photography gear and will continue with it. I do wish there was a way to mount a hook for cables and cords, but otherwise I'm pretty happy with it. The price point was right and I've only felt a need to pick up the 2.0 in the roller as the tall handle previously prevented me from closing the privacy shade in the cargo area of my SUV. Now I can do that.
I'm looking for a cooler to add to the system before they are completely gone and the small organizers will need to be ordered as they've never been stocked locally.
I really like the small Husky organizer that I've seen in the store. I did not realize it was in conjunction with this new system. Very nice.
I have the Rigid system as well. and Im with you that I wish Rigid had some more options but for what it is it's fantastic. I was lucky to find the cooler and the smaller organizers in store. I can't wait until Rigid finally releases drawers for their system.
I’ve been using the ridgid system for over 10 years. Bought a set of the 2.0 and the small organizers…. This week I’ve bought 4 sets of packout drawers. Ridgid definitely for the price, but if you need variety, it’s packout. You’re impressed by the husky, but they charge too often and probably won’t be available in a couple years. Buy once, cry once. Thx for the video!
I think husky buildout is here to stay. Connect has been around for years and been obsolete almost the whole time
ive had my packout right around 3 years, i might have to buy another soon because it started leaking. it's always had weak drawers though which makes me want to wait until they have some sort of upgrade. the lock rings are soft worthless plastic, and the drawers really need to be stiffer. the box locking together is great and solid and the reason i buy them, but i just wish the boxes were stronger on the inside
Did you have issues with the handles that lock the boxes together? Mine wore out after a year of use. The boxes would come apart and fall off. I ended up ditching the system and went with another brand
@@mikestoolfun the rubber tore off several of the locking handles, but they all still lock/ unlock ok. I bought the packout drawers, but after a few weeks they are starting to sag… i have to push up on the lids to get the locking bar to lock. Think I’ll be returning these and try out the new stack tech by tough built, when the drawes become available.
Toughbuilt has similar products that would be nice to see how they compare. Liked the video.
The comparison between these systems and StackTech is in the works!
I’m a Dj and I have 2 Milwaukee packout box’s with all my gear lots of power wires XLRs RCAs you name it alot of light clamps few tools and let me tell you at the end of every event we throw the thing around from the stage n have never had issues I love mine a lot
I want the PackOut but "settled" for Rigid. I love Packout and the products give me the fizz, however as I'm just a professional homeowner and not a contractor nor bluecollar, there is 0 justification for that price-point for just the fact that it is "nice." I'm happy with my Rigid collection though.
Ridgid is my preferred kit. Not just the price, but the sure lock alignment, in addition to the metal clasps that lock the stack together.
What's even better is it's so easy to remove the handle with just the push of a button and just clips right back on. You can even bolt the wall mounts to the back of the handle rods to have a handy place to hang a box off the back when you're on the job. Once Ridgid gets the drawers to market (they're saying March now) they'll be going at the bottom of my stack and staying there. These boxes are made in Israel so the delay in drawers could be related to that.
@@jamesnm21 They are available in-stores in many parts today, just have to look a for them. Online isn't posting yet.
@@a.j.montie1083 that must be an early run since Ridgid apparently stated a couple weeks ago that they'd been delayed until March. Who knows. I'm also hoping half size organizers will become available soon as well.
Personally, i decided packout for all my expensive tools, while using rigid for hand tools and parts organization. Rigid's platform and affordability allows me to organize even the small things like pex parts, wire nuts, etc.
Overall great video, keep up the great work!!! ✌️
Thanks!
Bottom box Ridgid drawers will be game changing.
Yeah if they come out and can keep them in stock
Patiently waiting
For me Personally, the husky set performs great at a fraction of the cost
Where did you find the half size Ridgid boxes? I can’t find them anywhere.
They are hard to find. I’ve only seen them in store twice and they were available online a few times this summer. Hopefully, @homedepot will have them on display in more stores for the holidays. I suggest looking online often until you see them available. They are nice boxes 👍
Home depot
It isn't easy to control a point total for the specific brands' entire universe of boxes and accessories. Packout is CRUSHING everyone right now and there seems to be no end in sight. There are some things I like better with the Ridgid system but they don't have enough options out. If you only need the 3-box stack then maybe you can have a legit comparison but I'm not even in the trades and I use many of the pack-out options. One of the most important pieces pack out has that allow for a majority of my uses is the mounting plates. It's too bad Ridgid did not come up with a flat (non-wall hanging) mounting plate option.
I am a Master HVAC & Master Plumber/ Gas Fitter contractor I have Husky Ridgid & Milwaukee all of them are good Ridgid & Milwaukee are. Step above Husky and Milwaukee is the best but once again all three that I have you can’t go wrong .Very good & informative video .
What I'd love to see (and nobody has done) is open up the case to examine the locking mechanisms. How much is plastic? How replaceable are the springs? It's great that the contents of the box are protected against moisture, but are the mechanisms? For those of us who work/live in coastal areas, having the mechanism rust and fail would be a decision point.
Excellent point! Hopefully, we will see it on an update.
I just want to purchase some toolbox, this video helped a lot!
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After numerous vids I finally jumped into Milwaukee… I wanted to like Husky for the colors alone, but not having the half stacking feature was a deal breaker.
Just bought the Hart one. Going into it, I knew it wasn't going to be as good as the others, but I wasn't using it for tools, and I had plans of modifying the inside of the cases. $74 for the 3 stack was perfect. The one thing that would have been nice, is if the cart was separate from the boxes.
Flex just released a bunch of new boxes and accessories that work with existing boxes
Yeah it’s about time.
its only been out a year and a half😅 Packout has had since 17'...love to think where flex will be in 5 years! @@JakeWeihe
I am wondering how strong the Klien Tools accessory magnet is. I run the large drawer and the medium box in the back of a police squad car and I was thinking I would get two magnets and run them both on the right side, one on each box, then run my bolt cutters and entry tool vertically between the two magnets. Not sure if the magnets are strong enough to do this, as I usually only see the magnet being used to hold screwdrivers. Any help would be great! Thanks.
The magnets are very strong in pretty confident it can hold those tools. In addition to them being heavier they also have a bigger surface area so they hold even better than screwdrivers
Awesome, thank you!
The thoroughness of your videos is very impressive. Much appreciated!
Glad you like them!
Weihe do it? Cuz u asked him to. 😂
I bought the ridged . I’ve been. Using for 3 months and they are tough for the price
Amazing video
Do any of the other brands have the drawer systems.
Checkout out my Drawer video to see a comparison of 9 popular brands
This is one awesome video. Very well done. Maybe for the future: in your score, see if you could add something for tracking different box functionalities (for instance: drawers are a huge plus for bottom of the stack boxes, but sacrifice internal volume).
Why does everybody make boxes??? Am I the only one that thinks drawers are a superior storage system in a stacked configuration???
Great comparison video. Thank you for posting.
I used Dewalt rigid and Milwaukee and I have a trailer. Sometimes I would forget to strap stuff down and the boxes would fall over Milwaukee was the only one that would not break at latches and stay together as far as durability. I have to support Milwaukee pack out, and I am not brand loyal.
Great video thanks!
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Love my Rigid set but those boxes smell terrible, like wet cigars. Over a year and they all still smell terrible inside.
This video has been extremely helpful. I’ve been torn with which system to go with and this video helped me decide.
Milwaukee!!!
Fair enough
Probably Milwaukee because of how many things are available for it. I like that it has the fattest tires. But being an electrician i also really like Kleins thought on bender/broom storage.
I have the husky and the ridgid 2.0 and the ridgid is much more superior
The fact that you have to mod the Packout to take the handle off is a killer for me.
Valid. The aftermarket mods have gotten better but it’s still an additional cost when it shouldn’t be
Wanted to say that I love your videos and come here to give an update on my Ridgid Pro Gear 2.0 boxes. I have 2 small, 1 medium and 1 large with the wheels. Had the boxes strapped to the bed of my work truck (flat bed crane truck) similar to my coworkers packout. The bottom boxes connecting handle failed when i took a turn and scattered the bozes across a busy road. Thankfully no boxes were ran over and the locking latches didn't fail but all of the boxes are damaged and need to be replaced. Its been a chore to get anyone from the warrenty department on the phone (as of this writing 5 days in) no one has returned voice messages or been able to be reached on the phone. I plan to get my boxes replaced, but will probably go with Toughbuilt moving forward.
It's all Chinese crap might as well stick with the husky. Now if Milwaukee brought production back to the USA for this, the premium might be worth it
I can’t believe that ridged is the only one that has made the drawers that can be attached to the wheels with handle. I don’t want to have to unstack my boxes anytime I want to get into my bottom box.
I went with rigid 2.0 system. I got all three pieces individually for $141 plus tax versus the PACKOUT for $219 plus tax
Flex just came out with drawers and dollys
Also one category to include would be “price per cubic inch of storage”
(Ridgid wins with their XL box. It’s half the price of packout) I just bought six XL’s I’m gonna get another 20 on Black Friday and I think the packout chest which is huge for my paint and sheetrock stuff.
Also a product idea would be center handles for the crates. I bought some round bar and nuts to make one but haven’t gotten around to it
39 minutes for the one question I had, backwards compatible rigid. I don't feel like replacing a system that works already if I can still expand it.
Omg! I'm headed to your site.. Any deals if I buy 1 of all your designs?? Also, I have makita box system, dewalt, milwaukee pac... Want to hook them all together... Why? Because they're all tool specific.. My festool stuff only comes out when I see homeowner has a $200k car sitting in the driveway lol
Check out stack smarter. Tell him Jake sent ya 👍
Ah... Grasshopper. The modbox gets extra points for the orange color/theft deterrent...it is noticeable walking off under someone else's power... and wherever it is it will garner attention, making it less desireable to thieves. Orange may be worthy of a two point bump. Sometimes UGLY is a beautiful thing!
That’s a good perspective
these are like mature legos sets, looks fun for art supplies even
Definitely a great use case
"Jake Score". This guy watches Doug DeMuro.
Haha yup. Doug is awesome
@@JakeWeihe If you were to become the Doug of Tools, I'd dig that. As entertaining as Doug is, I will never purchase any of those cars. Sometimes I just need to know the good and the bad about tools before I purchase them.
Really nice videos. You speak well, introduce pauses, smile and narrate well. The pace of the videos are good, good angles, good camera and I liked and appreciate all the reviews, tests, feature descriptions and the test score in the end was a great idea too. You gained a subscriber.
On the topic of the storage systems themselves...it always amazes me how the industrial designers/engineers miss obvious things YT reviewers spot immediately. I mean it is just incredible. Even the almighty packout system, clearly a winner in many people's hearts, does idiotic things like lid not opening whilst rear handle is extended and not being able to lock/unlock boxes with other boxes on top. It's as if they noticed these towards the end of their deadlines and had no more time to change it. But all that would be needed is to have focus groups....or even better...have youtubers get prototypes early on, with non disclosure agreement to publish the videos only once the company has finalized the product...let youtubers keep the product in return for feedback.
I just like having different stuff.. everyone has Milwaukee. Nobody takes my dewalt batteries. I love Klein handtools so I’d probably go mod box just to have a quality product that’s different
Valid reasoning
My thoughts exactly.
Nobody wants ur dewault batteries
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@robinwendt5527 yeah..that's my point..everyone has Milwaukee. There's no difference in longevity or quality. Milwaukee impact driver may have a little more torque..but I do commercial refrigeration/hvac and my dewalt stuff as been great. The only time I couldn't break a nut loose with it is because it sheared the whole stud off instead lol.
I would say the most unique thing about rigid is that you can use the handle as handtruck for light items as well is having the ability to use small boxes instead of just big ones that can handle the wheels
Great video and very informative. Just ordered my packout with the black friday pricing. Already ordered the handle removal kit , to fit it in my truck cant really wait for the manufacture to release sometime in 24, and saw your work top attachment so will check that out on your site as well as some of your other things. I chose the packout because i have seen them in use and think it will work for what i do.
"This is "Muakee" packout" LOL
I have to assume that you also pronounce the Aluminium as "Aluminum" and Nuclear as "Nuqular" :)
I run packout. The availability locally was a big factor, and the 4 caster roller was perfect. I do maintenatenance for automotive facilities. 2 drawer on Bottom, then 3 drawer, midsize waterproof box, midsize fastener bin. I wish they offered side mount options.
Im also concerned with the sagging of the drawers after only a few months. Hot weather may take a massive impact. We'll see.
There’s 3rd party side mount options.
Keep us updated on the durability 👍
EXCELLENT review; thoughtful and obvious time invested in this video. “Keep on Keeping on!” Tim in northern TN
I went with DeWalt tough system 2.0 because HD had it as a kit for $178. And Tstack, versastack, Stanley fat max pro stack fit with it. Was going to go with rigid but I read a lot of complaints about the weak handle and I was concerned they would not deliver on the options of products like DeWalt. Milwaukee was first choice but couldn't justify the money.
Can’t argue with that deal for dewalt
I also did the same DeWalt deal a few months back. It's worked well so far.
I"m the fool that bought to full systems at full price. Didn't think to wait for a sale!
I really just wish the ridgid connection between boxes was better. I'm currently tied between mod box and packout
The connection mech on packout wins me over.
Great job Jake, best comparison video on the whole web!!!!
Thanks! 👍
I wish other reviews were as complete and honest about the products as this one. It seems lately, most 'reviews' are actually just salesman's demonstrations like you used to see in the middle of the night on those shopping channels. Guys like Billy Mays going 'It slices, it dices!' is the vibe nowadays on 95% of the reviews on YT. They are not honest reviews, just a low quality sales pitch with Amazon links in the description.
That's why I bought the worst mouse I've ever owned, the MX Master 3. For years, no one had an honest review of it and they led me astray. Thank you for being a good example to those sales-reviewer shills! Because Amazon links are fine, as long as you give an honest review.
Thank you!
I have the rigid also, use it for detailing and it's been great over the last year plus I ceramic coated the outside and added a little more rubber gasket for water leaks and it's been leaving it outside in heavy rain or leaving it on the the back of the cargo carrier
I haven't really thought about or looked into but i wouldn't be surprised if the holes on the side of the rigid box would work to attach peg board.
Dude I have a fastback everywhere too! They’re the best!!!
Hopefully for those of you who are working in the field are smart enough to know better than to be rolling these in and out of people's houses. You don't need all the tools that are in that box or any concession in order to get a job done. Go out to your truck, grab the ones you need at the moment or put them in a tool belt and then proceed to work. Don't be dragging that all over the homeowner's properties and inside their house screwing up their furniture, carpet and flooring. If you work on a construction site, these kind of come in handy. But after a while, you get realize how annoying it is to unstack and re-stack a bunch of boxes when you're using. Maybe 10% of the tools in there during a day's time. Especially if what you do as a repeated pattern all day long, you're probably only using a handful of tools that doesn't require 14 boxes on a wheel system to be drug in like you're showing off a new car.
I agree with trying to bring in just what you need, but that is dependent on the scope of the work being done. I mean you should always clean up any mess you make in someone's home or if you can't take the cleaning bill anyhow. If the goal were to show off I'd roll in with all matching festool boxes and tables to set up. Of course you bring in a $2k-ish festool dust extractor or two also. lol
It's not just a matter if portability. For me as a painter I have alot of different tools and being able to organize them in these boxes increases efficiency. I will take the boxes I need and leave in my truck and pull them out if the box and put then back in when I'm done. Always find the tools I need this way
yea like he said during a build out or construction is different than a handyman. Bringing a Rigid with Paint and Caulking on it to a gig in a Nice Restaurant or Office for an electric or IT job are diff examples where two diff sets (or systems Like me) for light and Heavy duty work can be better @@MIKEC2000
Time to do a comparison with toughbuilt
The cost kept me from getting Milwaukee or Klein.
I like Ridgid is not Chinese and I like the ability to fasten to the wall.
I think they were trying to figure out how to make the engine as complicated as possible
GOD TIER VID
Fantastic video. Thanks for showing the variety of features. Have you looked at the Craftsman brand? I just ran across them when looking at making a solar powered portable generator at Lowe’s.
Thanks!
You earned yourself a new subscriber, great video Jake!!
Are the weep holes on the Packout to catch your tears as you cry about the money the system cost?
Those two holes you mentioned in the Rigid boxes, perhaps you could design a rail system that screws into them?
It’s in the works!
A little off topic, but what labeling machine do you use for the labels on some of the boxes shown?
Just a cheap dymo. Nothing fancy.
FYI, I think a way to have a useful measurement for interior size would be to measure the volume... e.g. fill to the brim with water, then dump into a bucket or something in order to measure the amount. 🤷
Yeah I considered that… but they are all pretty close and it wouldn’t really get the practical size. In a future video I’ll do a real tool fit test. I also don’t want to deal with gallons of water to see which one holds +-10% of the other box.
I’ll go with who ever puts drawers on the bottom rolling box first.
Excellent video, very informative, balanced, thorough and most helpful
Thank you!
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Hard to beat the old fashion milk crates. I use a rope as a carrying device.... or to drag it.
Haha I get it. I talked about milk crates in the crate comparison video from a few weeks ago.
Husky stuff , not just the box ,is actually very good for its price , i have use all brands , im not a Milwaukee fan boy , and husky hasn’t disappoint, people often overlook it for the low price .
I agree. I have several Husky hand tools and am not disappointed with any of my purchases.
Milwaukee packout will fill up with water if left out in the rain. Ask me how I know.
I bought the Husky build out 2 weeks ago, and was very happy with it initially. After ordering additional items to expand the system from Home Depot and finding out they aren’t available and HD cancelling my order. I returned the system and bought the Milwaukee packout. Yes it’s more money but I was able to get what I needed.
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I bought the Rigid over 10 years ago. Used them almost dailey, in and out of jobs . They still 👍 great. They just need the drawer units , and maybe a flip out bottom roller. I will also mention I have the first gen and second gen rolling box.
I actually like the older one because I can lift it with both hands to put in truck, the handle goes down further.
The drawer unit is coming. Some people have already found some.
Started with the packout 2 years ago, no regrets at all. Extremely rugged and versatile system. Worth the extra money.
Nice 👍
Loves my Ridgid 2.0