I immediately invested in toughbuilt boxes when I saw how fast they fixed issues that people pointed out. Plus their upcoming releases for 2024 looks awesome
Spent 1 hours analyzing all the tool at Home Depot and Lowe’s. Tough Build is well built, lifetime warranty, & price made the most sense. Most importantly the steel rail support is strong. Was able to mod mine with some heavy duty caster made transportation much more easier
Toughbilt will not be releasing their rolling drawers until Summer 2024. Ridgid is releasing rolling drawers now. 3 drawer unit in a few weeks They will be the only brand with rolling drawers. Plus, their wheel cart is removable. SKU numbers have already been assigned at Home Depot for the drawer box and the wheel cart. Ridgid 2 drawer and 4 drawer boxes will be released in Q1 2024. So by spring Ridgid will have 2, 3, & 4 drawer rolling stackable units. IMHO TB should have debuted with rolling drawers right out of the gate. That would make them a Packout & Modbox killer
@@Snowblind113 I bought into Toughbuilt/Stacktech in Melbourne/Australia (also have Packout & AEG) and returned the lot. For me, TB is heavy duty with design flaws. Empty weight ie crate 9lbs, etc, access to tools with stack hard unlike Packout easy, the single clip for organisers a major flaw, catch it badly it opens, the table top is bamboo (not plywood) etc. TB ideal if working on construction sites with pick ups/trucks/vans. I am not sold on Toughbuilt storage. TB not for everyone.
Same. The drawers with wooden top will be great for kitchen setups. The wooden tops can slide and I'd bet you can put two on one, meeting halfway, and have a bigger work surface for cooking.
Great review! Thanks for the insightful review. Tool users and organization addicts are very fortunate have you sharing your insights and also helping those considering buying this type of product!
You are the most thorough channel I’ve ever seen covering these sets. I am thinking on returning my new 4 drawer and 2 drawer pack out boxes and wait for the 4 drawer toughbuilt box to come out
They are rolling tool boxes, but also used for hobbyists and other activities. I use combo of Packout and Ridgid for my camping gear and camp kitchen. They are a lot cheaper than the Roam and Pelican boxes marketed at Overlanders. The Toughbuilt appear very sleek, clean, and sophisticated, and I was impressed in person with them. I’m already planning an upgrade when the drawer system comes out.
They almost could have dropped right in with the drawers first. Some of us are dying for good drawer systems in a product segment full of flip-top boxes.
I probably have 5 of their roller set. This Hands Down is the VERY Best Tool System I have Ever Used! I can carry 3-4 hundred pounds so easily anywhere I usually have to go Easily! Thanks, ToughBuilt! I will be buying More tools and more toolboxes from ToughBuilt! Love these, Everyday I use them!
Sticker tip... once removed, use the sticker itself to dab/press down on the residue... removes in seconds. goo-gone tends to break down the residue, and makes a mess. Using the adhesive from the back of the "removed sticker" is more of a mechanical removal.
I've purchased 5 and the ammo crate! 300+ later It has helped me organize my pickup truck tools and get some smaller tools out of my big job box. The #1 item I would like to see released is the wall mounting bracket for the boxes and I will be set!
Thanks for the tip on the Lowe’s buy more save more, can get the 3 box set for 268 but with the buy more save more you can get the 3 box set and the tool bag or a different box for 258
I'm glad they went with an open crate off the bat. That should always be a #1 item with these rolling storage systems. I'm really looking forward to getting this system, however, based on your notes, I will most likely wait until the design updates in 2024. I use ToughBuilt's belt pouch every day, and I am a big fan of the quality.
I've been a huge toughbuilt fan for years when I first got the clipteck drill holster. Now every time I go to Lowe's I look for new toughbuilt hand tools. I was super excited when I saw them release their stacktech system and already have one of everything they release and doubles of a few of them. Not being able to open lower boxes so easily or not being able to stack on top the tote and small box is not an issue I have a problem with. I absolutely love them and the only thing I do wish was different would be having the divider in the tote be removable. Not an issue that prevented me from getting them and I can't wait for others to be released and accessories to be released
Personally I don’t think they’re that big of issues either. Just pointed them out for the more persnickety people. Please come back and let us know your thoughts on the items you got on future videos! 👍
You nailed it when you said Milwaukee ignores their customers. They say the they listen to their customer feedback but that has not been my experience unfortunately. The handle is one example now people are modifying their bottom, rolling trunk into a drawer. I’ve said this before about Milwaukee. They seem to be tone, deaf to what’s going on around them.
I have not put hands on one of the systems but I do own some of their other tools. Everything I have purchased from Toughbuilt does indeed live up to its namesake. I currently use Packout and I am very satisfied with them, no complaints at all. I am nearing the point of needing some more boxes. To be honest I am looking forward to what you design for the Toughbuilt series. Thanks for the video and review brother.
Haven't even watched your full video yet (will be done in a few) but I recently replaced my Ridgid brand system with Toughbuilt Stacktech. I'm very happy with them thus far.
I love your reviews, This one is exceptionally fantastic...!!! I've Been using the Ridgid 2.0 line, I do like their rolling box, and overall it's a decent system but, the side latches have worn out on some of my boxes. The clips that the side bars clip into are plastic hook design, bound to wear out. I'm definitely switching to ToughBuilt system based on your review. I dig the accessories you have developed for the Packouts, Looking forward to what you come up with for Toughbuilt.
Completely modular base system is a huge game-changer. I want my base unit with wheels to be a drawer, not a lidded case, as most of my gear is lightweight enough that drawers are fine and allow me to access everything without de-stacking. Being able to break up a big stack of drawers to load in my sedan, then lock those all together on wheels for on-the-job movement will be incredible. These also look like they’re avoiding unnecessary geometry. They may be heavier, but I’d be curious what the exterior volume to interior volume ratio might be, because I suspect it’s better than most other systems. I’m in the film/tv industry, and I already want to make custom metal corners for these, but with fittings for my industry: 1/4-20 and 3/8 threaded holes, as well as Arri locator pins.
Have you watched my ridgid 2.0 video? If they get their drawers out it might be what you need. I also have a 1/4-20 PRA for Packout corner rails. And will make them for toughbuilt in the next few weeks 👍
@@JakeWeihe yes, I’ve been all over your channel the last two days! I think I prefer the single latch of the ToughBuilt over the double latch of the Ridgid, and in my industry, the flat top “storage tray” will be VERY useful. Also I like the front interconnect over Ridgid’s dual side interconnect. I’m not concerned about the ToughBuilt requiring destack to get into lower bins, as I’ll be doing all drawers.
just saw this video, and immediately made my purchase, as i needed something better for in the truck. BIGGEST con is not being able to open up something on a lower level. but as i wont be using for jobsites, just personal use.. i'm not terribly bothered. started with the medium tool box, for a bse, with the tool bag/tote and cooler. will add more later but this is the perfect setup for in the truck right now.
I'm just wondering now that the amount of distance it needs to be lifted to open one under it is quite small, would it be possible mod it slightly to be able to have it the way it supposed to be? Like little material that need sto be taken of of the latch and/or top bottom chest?
I'm in a tough spot, I was mistakenly sent the Flex Rolling Toolbox instead of the Toughbilt one and I really like it. I prefer the front handle, like the gas struts, and the internal attachments for bit boxes. But the Toughbilt accessory attachment system is easier to adjust and I already have the Toughbilt modular tool pouches. Plus the TB attachments seem more useful...guess I'm going to have to take a trip to Lowe's to compare.
@lukenance1088 right, being the boxes now come out with pegs to hang the boxes on the wall it would make an ideal garage storage to have drawers and drawers of organization (at half the price of packout)
It's not looking good. I'm having tons of trouble finding the compact organizers, even contacted ridgid and they said keter makes them so we dunno basically. They don't seem to be all in on this new system at all. Maybe they're not selling enough which is a shame because it's the best value in my opinion
Last time I bought a system like this was in 2020 and it was Husky Connect and Packout on the shelves at my local stores. I’ve undertaken far more projects and have many more tools with more to come. I was really surprised to see so many options out there. I mostly am doing DIY home renovations, but also woodworking and mechanic related work. One feature I’m finding missing from many brands is inserts that firmly secure your tools, instead of them piling into a bin. Dewalt and packout so far have the best foam and I like the dewalt insert trays. One thing I want to find is a good system for my sockets and ratchets from various brands. I’ve got everything from snap on to harbor freight and I would like an organizer that accepts universal sockets. For my low use tools, I’m considering the tstak/versa stack tool boxes. They aren’t as large or hefty as the suitcase tool box from tough built (which I was impressed with) but they are smaller. I’ve only gotta hold one tool in some foam and a few bits/adapters/blades. Price point makes low value tool storage in these simple cases appealing.
I just bought the ammo can as a car tag along so I could keep my metric/u.s. separate. It does well I fit all my sockets, box ends and my 16” proto 1/2” drive in the bottom with my ratchets in the top. Very pleased with this system will be expanding to tough built for a first stacking system
It would be nice if you could open the boxes in the middle of the stack or lower without removing the upper stacks. I’m super stoked to see the hand cart added to the collection as well as a few other items that were mentioned in the literature that came with the boxes.
A great review....i had to test it out in person. Overall it is a very impressive system though I see the lock/unlock latch a issue since it sticks out and likely will be broken off at some point. A flat finger hole like the on the packout would be a long-term improvement that would match the premium level of this system and products. If they can match the packout options, this is the one. There also needs a higher connection point or a strp to better support the handle and lessen the deflection when moving a stack around - a future WD product for all stacking systems.
If milwaukee didnt make so many cool m12 and m18 attachments I'd be more prone to buy some stacktech for myself. That being said I did buy stacktech for my friend as a gift because of the ease of use. (Roller box, large box, crate, and two compacts for $284-ish) I see stacktech taking 2nd place very quickly, and I wouldn't be surprised if they eclipse Milwaukee someday, but that would take quite some time and continued improvement. Im very impressed with stacktech and would recommend them over packout unless you want some of the specialty attachments milwaukee offers (me). This is the people's modular toolbox and the only one worth considering other than packout.
I just bought into stacktech, and I am fairly happy so far. One issue I found is with the cable puller. It needs a way to extend off the tool boxes so bigger rolls could be used
Very thorough video. Biggest concern is the weight which is multiplied once you add all your accessories and tools. Packout is already heavy but manageable. Anything more might make me want to leave things out which might not be such a good thing when you need something on the job. This is a big reason why I won’t use the 38in Packout rolling tool chest. It’s big and very heavy loaded up.
Damn.... Damn... I'm going to buy a new system. It was a tough decision between Milwaukee and Klein. I use Milwaukee power tools and I am a commercial electrician. But I've also used tough built tool belts and tool pouches for years. Now I'm even more torn.... I like how heavy and tough it is... Gosh...
Excellent review!! Surprised you never mentioned Dewalt…. I went with the ToughSystem because of availability and diversity. Very interested in seeing more from StackTech
Hell yeah. Give milwaukee some competition, their packout system is getting thinner and thinner and more fragile while getting more and more expensive.
Milwaukee is running their Buy more Save more as well, so it brings the price down more, depending on how much you spend. Also, I just looked and the 3 piece PO Starter kit is only $197.10 for black Friday sales event, special buy.
My one big thought on the stacking system is that the mechanics are all in the bottom of the box, not the top. This means that if i wanted to design a custom base plate for mounting onto the top, I'm fairly certain it would require at least some spring latch to connect it to the box below. This would make a lot of ideas like buying a separate box and attaching cleats of some sort to the bottom not as easily doable.
True. I make that point about other boxes in another video but forgot to mention it here. I think 3rd party makers like stack smarter will figure it out. Worse case scenario you'll have to resort to attaching the different base with straps.
@@JakeWeiheas well, have you looked at toughbuilts stock prices, and how they're possible lack of longevity could hurt their ability to make these? I'm no economist, but I imagine going from $77 to $2 from 2021 to 2022 I and from $2 to $.20 can't bode well for their lifespan, and warranty promises.
I definitely like the dolly/cart option. I have been asking Milwaukee for one of those for a long time. Yes, Milwaukee has a PO dolly, but it is limited in use. I also like their transporter stand.
I could see myself using the boxes as a cutting surface when framing with a circular saw at times. There seems to be enough height in the rims to accommodate registration notches to fit up to a 2x6, laid across the box.
The stacking of 2 half box issue is the main concern, a design flaw. Once they release the shims to fix it, it should be free. Since the newer box will fix this issue with new design, the shims should be free. ECO offer free drift kits for their snowblower that are older and have drift issue.
It would be interesting to see a comparison of all the modular drawers, I am an auto tech and I find the drawers to be more useful, I have a good amount of tstak and versastack and I am thinking of upgrading. Comparing drawer sizes, locking ability, possibly the amount of weight that a drawer can hold.
Toughbuilt Stacktech is not for everyone, I returned a big system back to the store (Australia). Main issues the empty weight (2x the competitors, accessibility btw boxes on the rolling system, 3 drawer unit is small in a big box, single clip on organisers prone to opening - Packout wins here. Those with vans, Utes/Pick ups ideal, but I operate from back of SUV. Will keep looking.
I would like to see them have a similar handle like the MODbox with spots to slide a level in. Thats just a better way to do it and you dont need to remove the leve to get into any box.
With the stacking issue fix on its way, and the brilliance of the accessory rails, it’s a no brainer. For me being fairly invested in the packout system, now is not the time to switch. Next year..
I wasnt going to condsider toughbuilt for a buy but sibce you showed whats coming out this i may have to wait and really consider this. I havd their tool brelt and some tools and really like them. I was also considering the kleine and the flex one. I currentky have a dewalt 2.0 which is nice but very basic wirh no accessories. I just might sell it in craigslist and use thst money to buy one of these better ones. Your videos are very informative thanks
I bought 2 complete systems at launch and love it so far! Just seen your review and agree with you on the improvements. I’d like to see a front opening case for sure. Also would be cool if toughbuilt teamed up with someone like EcoFlow to create a battery stack. Can you cover the cooler and tow hitch plate when they come in?
Milwaukee definitely missed out on designing accessories for their boxes when they had the chance and never seemed to embrace the metal corners the essentially pioneered
@JakeWeihe I've heard that, but only from TH-cam comments. I would have thought there would have been some advertising. I'm looking forward to trying it though
@@S.JCarpentry Toughbuilt Europe advised UK Retailers being lined ie Howdens UK & A.N.Other towards Q3-Q4/2024 or Q1/2025. Range & price unknown. Hong Kong pricing & range similar to Australia-major issue now is supply as stocks are low or none existent.
Great video man! I'm really looking forward to these! I think they will give packout a run for their money and I am planning on converting over to tough built from here on out as I find packout to be overpriced for what it is.
@@JakeWeihe Hey do you have any info on when the next batch of stacktech will be available? I've been waiting to pull the trigger, but want the larger drawer boxes. No info on their website.
If someone was considering buying one of these at systems now, would you wait a few months into the new year hoping for product improvements or dive in now at holiday prices?
The best prices of the year are happening right now. I started with just the piece Packout stack a few years ago and slowly built up from there. Just get the pieces you know you’ll use and make sure they do what they’re supposed to do before walking out the store ( I’ve seen messed up boxes in stores from all the brands)
I love the Toughbuilt brand. I have tons of clips and pouches. I have over 50+ DeWalt toughsystem boxes. All of Which have top handles on the large boxes. The B50 box should have a top handle. Even if you used the front handle the contents of the tray inside would dump all over. Using two hands to carry boxes is annoying. I tend to carry more than one box at a time on and off the job site when necessary. Would love to hear your opinion.
True. That is one feature it’s missing. I love the top handle on Packout and modbox. I’ll tell Devin from stacksmarter to make a top handle for the b50
I like that you have your own page. Great idea! I see a lot of decent items that I would like to purchase the problem with your pages. I got to search your entire page just to find them. So to help you out, set your web page according to the tool brand. If it's Milwaukee section everything for Milwaukee under Milwaukee because your first two items are Milwaukee your Third item is rigid or tough systems? I'm sorry I don't care about anything but Milwaukee so that's all I would like to see is just Milwaukee products. So after scrolling about five different items I gave up because I'm not scrolling all the way down to the bottom of your web page just to find items that I would like to purchase
Wish they'd integrate the transparent cover with the base on those slim organizers. Lost count how many times I've seized the packout organizer handle, and the cover has spilled open when forgetting to latch. Screws/fixings everywhere - many expletives involved....
I use packout, but there are alot of things other manufacturers have done to their products that Milwaukee should have or should employ with their system.
these box do look good, wish they just had top handles like the dewalt 2.0 tough system. dewalt 2.0 is best system so far apart from their draws. Milwaukee is way harder system to use they lack in side and top handles
Rigid original design was great, simple, and durable and large handles. I've had my Rigid setup for over 10 years! Only problem is where are their drawer units !!???. Theses Tough Built have a nice latch system , better than sliding a heavy box like Milwaukee. Just wondering if the latch system will last?
Jake: Make a base plate with Velcro so you can put a box in a trunk of a car for: tools, first aid, groceries, sports equipment or camping gear. If a more robust baseplate was made with a locking slide, box compatibility combined with the accessibility would blow open the high priced overlanding gear market. v/r wh
It also occurred to me that you could market adapter plates to mix and match brands for folks who already invested in a kit and are at the limits of the available accessories or desire the features of a particular brand accessory and would like to incorporate it to their preferred system.
I am beyond excited for this set up! And can’t wait to buy into it! Seem far superior to anything else out there even given the issues. A few things I see…. - the rolling box handle. Why does it have to pull out? Why can’t it collapse all the way down like suitcase luggage? Then I don’t have to take it out and put it in… -the ammo box tray versus the large box tray. Definitely a detractors they aren’t the same size. No, it’s likely I won’t cross load them often but it will happen. Why are they different? Why not be the same? -the tool tote. A comment I’ve seen else where I agree with…why nothing for the clip tech like a rail hubs? -I love the dewalt tote that is a zippered bag that it’s like a duffle bag for hand tools locks into the toughsystem 2.0. I want to see a version of that! -when will the Lowe’s exclusive end? I have a Lowe’s 1.5 hours north and one the same south…too far away. When will this be available at Home Depot or my local building materials supplier?
@Jake One thing I think you could sell for StackTech is plastic replacements for the metal corners. Many people, like myself, may never use those metal plates and would either take them off or replace them with something to cover the gap. You're welcome for the idea. :D Another cool quick vid would be a stat comparison between all the different boxes in something like a spreadsheet, including ST's stats.
Have been looking into a modular system and this one piqued my interest. The company makes very thoughtful and well made stuff. I hope they are able to actually release and sell all the pieces they have planned. The company is under some serious financial strain so a bankruptcy or forced buyout could curtail the vision they seem to be going for.
ToughBuilt's *replaceable* steel corners and heavier (more durable?) construction is a significant benefit. I like their (IP65) weather seal design. ToughBuilt needs to get rid of all those nuisance stickers. If ToughBuilt goes the top stacking adapter plate route it would be beneficial to incorporate steel (or magnetic) strips into the adapter plate for magnetic parts/disassembly trays. Overall, ToughBuilt off to a great start. The fact that ToughBuilt is (currently) a smaller company should provide an extra advantage when it comes to being more responsive to customers. Lastly, regarding these portable storage systems, I prefer conventional pneumatic or foam-filled rubber tires over all the ‘low-budget’ plastic hub wheels these systems are using, especially when used on jobsites where water and mud can be commonplace.
My concern is with 4 connection points, if some of them are malfunctioned, can I still take the box out? Packout’s has only 1 locking and it’s separated from the connection, worst case I can still break the locking latch & take it out.
I'm a huge fan of Toughbuilt but UK roll out is usually delayed as there is no main supplier. If you have any further contact can you see if they have a UK drop date?
I immediately invested in toughbuilt boxes when I saw how fast they fixed issues that people pointed out. Plus their upcoming releases for 2024 looks awesome
Spent 1 hours analyzing all the tool at Home Depot and Lowe’s. Tough Build is well built, lifetime warranty, & price made the most sense. Most importantly the steel rail support is strong. Was able to mod mine with some heavy duty caster made transportation much more easier
Its 150 for just the bottom though
These things blow everything else out of the water, only downside is they’re heavier
A rolling drawer box!? FINALLY somebody did it!!! 12:39
Toughbilt will not be releasing their rolling drawers until Summer 2024. Ridgid is releasing rolling drawers now. 3 drawer unit in a few weeks They will be the only brand with rolling drawers. Plus, their wheel cart is removable. SKU numbers have already been assigned at Home Depot for the drawer box and the wheel cart. Ridgid 2 drawer and 4 drawer boxes will be released in Q1 2024. So by spring Ridgid will have 2, 3, & 4 drawer rolling stackable units. IMHO TB should have debuted with rolling drawers right out of the gate. That would make them a Packout & Modbox killer
Getting rid of my packout boxes the second this releases.
Thanks for the info. This however is a single drawer! There is so much options these days. Lots of promise and fancy photoshops.
@@Snowblind113 I bought into Toughbuilt/Stacktech in Melbourne/Australia (also have Packout & AEG) and returned the lot. For me, TB is heavy duty with design flaws. Empty weight ie crate 9lbs, etc, access to tools with stack hard unlike Packout easy, the single clip for organisers a major flaw, catch it badly it opens, the table top is bamboo (not plywood) etc. TB ideal if working on construction sites with pick ups/trucks/vans. I am not sold on Toughbuilt storage. TB not for everyone.
I like the smoother interior. Im always fighting my tools trying to put them away in my packouts. May be time to change
Lmao
Customer response is going to be the reason I choose this product. We will use them for camping. I can't wait to start my collection.
Same. The drawers with wooden top will be great for kitchen setups. The wooden tops can slide and I'd bet you can put two on one, meeting halfway, and have a bigger work surface for cooking.
Great review! Thanks for the insightful review. Tool users and organization addicts are very fortunate have you sharing your insights and also helping those considering buying this type of product!
You are the most thorough channel I’ve ever seen covering these sets. I am thinking on returning my new 4 drawer and 2 drawer pack out boxes and wait for the 4 drawer toughbuilt box to come out
Very excited about this and next years offerings
Best tool box system by far imo
They are rolling tool boxes, but also used for hobbyists and other activities. I use combo of Packout and Ridgid for my camping gear and camp kitchen. They are a lot cheaper than the Roam and Pelican boxes marketed at Overlanders. The Toughbuilt appear very sleek, clean, and sophisticated, and I was impressed in person with them. I’m already planning an upgrade when the drawer system comes out.
They almost could have dropped right in with the drawers first. Some of us are dying for good drawer systems in a product segment full of flip-top boxes.
Y Stacktech es más rápido
Jake thanks for the awesome review! I think the upcoming releases for this system are very exciting and I cannot wait to see your review of them!
You and me both!
I probably have 5 of their roller set. This Hands Down is the VERY Best Tool System I have Ever Used! I can carry 3-4 hundred pounds so easily anywhere I usually have to go Easily! Thanks, ToughBuilt! I will be buying More tools and more toolboxes from ToughBuilt! Love these, Everyday I use them!
Sticker tip... once removed, use the sticker itself to dab/press down on the residue... removes in seconds. goo-gone tends to break down the residue, and makes a mess. Using the adhesive from the back of the "removed sticker" is more of a mechanical removal.
I've purchased 5 and the ammo crate!
300+ later
It has helped me organize my pickup truck tools and get some smaller tools out of my big job box.
The #1 item I would like to see released is the wall mounting bracket for the boxes and I will be set!
I hope you got the pay more save more offer
Thanks Jake! Your review of these boxes is the video I've been waiting for. 👍
Thanks for the tip on the Lowe’s buy more save more, can get the 3 box set for 268 but with the buy more save more you can get the 3 box set and the tool bag or a different box for 258
I'm glad they went with an open crate off the bat. That should always be a #1 item with these rolling storage systems. I'm really looking forward to getting this system, however, based on your notes, I will most likely wait until the design updates in 2024. I use ToughBuilt's belt pouch every day, and I am a big fan of the quality.
Definitely good quality for the price. I have a couple pouches and I like them a lot
I've been a huge toughbuilt fan for years when I first got the clipteck drill holster. Now every time I go to Lowe's I look for new toughbuilt hand tools. I was super excited when I saw them release their stacktech system and already have one of everything they release and doubles of a few of them. Not being able to open lower boxes so easily or not being able to stack on top the tote and small box is not an issue I have a problem with. I absolutely love them and the only thing I do wish was different would be having the divider in the tote be removable. Not an issue that prevented me from getting them and I can't wait for others to be released and accessories to be released
Personally I don’t think they’re that big of issues either. Just pointed them out for the more persnickety people.
Please come back and let us know your thoughts on the items you got on future videos! 👍
I bought a couple of these boxes, my only other real gripe would be a wider handle on the bottom box to pull, but not a deal breaker.
Larger than rigids lmao, thats what im used to
You nailed it when you said Milwaukee ignores their customers. They say the they listen to their customer feedback but that has not been my experience unfortunately. The handle is one example now people are modifying their bottom, rolling trunk into a drawer. I’ve said this before about Milwaukee. They seem to be tone, deaf to what’s going on around them.
Listening to and acting on are different.
I have not put hands on one of the systems but I do own some of their other tools. Everything I have purchased from Toughbuilt does indeed live up to its namesake.
I currently use Packout and I am very satisfied with them, no complaints at all.
I am nearing the point of needing some more boxes.
To be honest I am looking forward to what you design for the Toughbuilt series.
Thanks for the video and review brother.
Haven't even watched your full video yet (will be done in a few) but I recently replaced my Ridgid brand system with Toughbuilt Stacktech. I'm very happy with them thus far.
Nice!
Once more stack tech products come out, I am fully switching over. Love tough built, I believe this system will own the market
They have lots of potential
I love your reviews, This one is exceptionally fantastic...!!! I've Been using the Ridgid 2.0 line, I do like their rolling box, and overall it's a decent system but, the side latches have worn out on some of my boxes. The clips that the side bars clip into are plastic hook design, bound to wear out.
I'm definitely switching to ToughBuilt system based on your review. I dig the accessories you have developed for the Packouts, Looking forward to what you come up with for Toughbuilt.
Completely modular base system is a huge game-changer. I want my base unit with wheels to be a drawer, not a lidded case, as most of my gear is lightweight enough that drawers are fine and allow me to access everything without de-stacking. Being able to break up a big stack of drawers to load in my sedan, then lock those all together on wheels for on-the-job movement will be incredible. These also look like they’re avoiding unnecessary geometry. They may be heavier, but I’d be curious what the exterior volume to interior volume ratio might be, because I suspect it’s better than most other systems.
I’m in the film/tv industry, and I already want to make custom metal corners for these, but with fittings for my industry: 1/4-20 and 3/8 threaded holes, as well as Arri locator pins.
Have you watched my ridgid 2.0 video? If they get their drawers out it might be what you need.
I also have a 1/4-20 PRA for Packout corner rails. And will make them for toughbuilt in the next few weeks 👍
@@JakeWeihe yes, I’ve been all over your channel the last two days! I think I prefer the single latch of the ToughBuilt over the double latch of the Ridgid, and in my industry, the flat top “storage tray” will be VERY useful. Also I like the front interconnect over Ridgid’s dual side interconnect. I’m not concerned about the ToughBuilt requiring destack to get into lower bins, as I’ll be doing all drawers.
just saw this video, and immediately made my purchase, as i needed something better for in the truck. BIGGEST con is not being able to open up something on a lower level. but as i wont be using for jobsites, just personal use.. i'm not terribly bothered.
started with the medium tool box, for a bse, with the tool bag/tote and cooler.
will add more later but this is the perfect setup for in the truck right now.
I'm just wondering now that the amount of distance it needs to be lifted to open one under it is quite small, would it be possible mod it slightly to be able to have it the way it supposed to be? Like little material that need sto be taken of of the latch and/or top bottom chest?
I'm in a tough spot, I was mistakenly sent the Flex Rolling Toolbox instead of the Toughbilt one and I really like it. I prefer the front handle, like the gas struts, and the internal attachments for bit boxes. But the Toughbilt accessory attachment system is easier to adjust and I already have the Toughbilt modular tool pouches. Plus the TB attachments seem more useful...guess I'm going to have to take a trip to Lowe's to compare.
The parametric dolly is gonna be sweet
just bought a setup because of this review.
Awesome!
All while I'm getting irritated because rigid teased us with boxes with drawers, and they still haven't released them
Really holding out hope for them to release the drawers this year
@lukenance1088 right, being the boxes now come out with pegs to hang the boxes on the wall it would make an ideal garage storage to have drawers and drawers of organization (at half the price of packout)
@@benjaminmasters5375exactly plus with the pictures showing it can be the bottom box, that’s awesome but Toughbuilt is putting the pressure on them
It's not looking good. I'm having tons of trouble finding the compact organizers, even contacted ridgid and they said keter makes them so we dunno basically. They don't seem to be all in on this new system at all. Maybe they're not selling enough which is a shame because it's the best value in my opinion
@@kevinr3263that’s really unfortunate to hear. I still may stick with what I have due to costs but stacktech looks pretty good for the drawers
such a undervalued company
Last time I bought a system like this was in 2020 and it was Husky Connect and Packout on the shelves at my local stores. I’ve undertaken far more projects and have many more tools with more to come.
I was really surprised to see so many options out there. I mostly am doing DIY home renovations, but also woodworking and mechanic related work.
One feature I’m finding missing from many brands is inserts that firmly secure your tools, instead of them piling into a bin. Dewalt and packout so far have the best foam and I like the dewalt insert trays.
One thing I want to find is a good system for my sockets and ratchets from various brands. I’ve got everything from snap on to harbor freight and I would like an organizer that accepts universal sockets.
For my low use tools, I’m considering the tstak/versa stack tool boxes. They aren’t as large or hefty as the suitcase tool box from tough built (which I was impressed with) but they are smaller. I’ve only gotta hold one tool in some foam and a few bits/adapters/blades. Price point makes low value tool storage in these simple cases appealing.
I just bought the ammo can as a car tag along so I could keep my metric/u.s. separate. It does well I fit all my sockets, box ends and my 16” proto 1/2” drive in the bottom with my ratchets in the top. Very pleased with this system will be expanding to tough built for a first stacking system
I love mine. Didn’t have the problem with the sticky stickers.
Great review.
Toughbuilt builds everything tough, even the stickers LOL.
Great video, impressed with my TB stack as well.
Your videos are great, very thorough
It would be nice if you could open the boxes in the middle of the stack or lower without removing the upper stacks. I’m super stoked to see the hand cart added to the collection as well as a few other items that were mentioned in the literature that came with the boxes.
you have drawer boxes for that
Tough Built is a game changer in my opinion, Built very well. I hope they come out with a mounting plate.
So far I like the stack tech. The flat top is pretty nice for holding other boxes in place.
I agree
A great review....i had to test it out in person. Overall it is a very impressive system though I see the lock/unlock latch a issue since it sticks out and likely will be broken off at some point. A flat finger hole like the on the packout would be a long-term improvement that would match the premium level of this system and products. If they can match the packout options, this is the one. There also needs a higher connection point or a strp to better support the handle and lessen the deflection when moving a stack around - a future WD product for all stacking systems.
If milwaukee didnt make so many cool m12 and m18 attachments I'd be more prone to buy some stacktech for myself. That being said I did buy stacktech for my friend as a gift because of the ease of use. (Roller box, large box, crate, and two compacts for $284-ish)
I see stacktech taking 2nd place very quickly, and I wouldn't be surprised if they eclipse Milwaukee someday, but that would take quite some time and continued improvement.
Im very impressed with stacktech and would recommend them over packout unless you want some of the specialty attachments milwaukee offers (me). This is the people's modular toolbox and the only one worth considering other than packout.
I will be your friend if you buy me a stacktech
@cajunsurvivor haha
@inuranusBrokoff true. They have some catching up to do but I think they are the only brand positioning themselves to do it.
@@JakeWeiheMr. Weihe seems like a good market for a packout to Toughbuilt adapter plate/reverse
What attachments does the packout have that makes stacktech a dealbreaker.
I just bought into stacktech, and I am fairly happy so far. One issue I found is with the cable puller. It needs a way to extend off the tool boxes so bigger rolls could be used
Amazing Video!... I find my new Favorite ToolBox and organize system. Amazing design work from Toughbuilt. I definitely want it. 😎👍
Very thorough video. Biggest concern is the weight which is multiplied once you add all your accessories and tools. Packout is already heavy but manageable. Anything more might make me want to leave things out which might not be such a good thing when you need something on the job. This is a big reason why I won’t use the 38in Packout rolling tool chest. It’s big and very heavy loaded up.
valid. That Packout box is a beast.
Damn.... Damn... I'm going to buy a new system. It was a tough decision between Milwaukee and Klein. I use Milwaukee power tools and I am a commercial electrician. But I've also used tough built tool belts and tool pouches for years. Now I'm even more torn.... I like how heavy and tough it is... Gosh...
Excited to see these in Canada. I was the first in my company to get packout, but I've always been a huge fan of toughbuilt
Excellent review!! Surprised you never mentioned Dewalt…. I went with the ToughSystem because of availability and diversity. Very interested in seeing more from StackTech
I do like the ability to attach accessories a lot easier than the Packout, or really any other unit.
These are freaking awesome
Hell yeah. Give milwaukee some competition, their packout system is getting thinner and thinner and more fragile while getting more and more expensive.
Milwaukee is running their Buy more Save more as well, so it brings the price down more, depending on how much you spend. Also, I just looked and the 3 piece PO Starter kit is only $197.10 for black Friday sales event, special buy.
My one big thought on the stacking system is that the mechanics are all in the bottom of the box, not the top. This means that if i wanted to design a custom base plate for mounting onto the top, I'm fairly certain it would require at least some spring latch to connect it to the box below. This would make a lot of ideas like buying a separate box and attaching cleats of some sort to the bottom not as easily doable.
True. I make that point about other boxes in another video but forgot to mention it here. I think 3rd party makers like stack smarter will figure it out. Worse case scenario you'll have to resort to attaching the different base with straps.
@@JakeWeiheas well, have you looked at toughbuilts stock prices, and how they're possible lack of longevity could hurt their ability to make these? I'm no economist, but I imagine going from $77 to $2 from 2021 to 2022 I and from $2 to $.20 can't bode well for their lifespan, and warranty promises.
@@Kosher3864 Ouch... January of 2019 it was $ 4,500
I definitely like the dolly/cart option. I have been asking Milwaukee for one of those for a long time. Yes, Milwaukee has a PO dolly, but it is limited in use. I also like their transporter stand.
I could see myself using the boxes as a cutting surface when framing with a circular saw at times. There seems to be enough height in the rims to accommodate registration notches to fit up to a 2x6, laid across the box.
I went and checked them out at Lowes. Probably gonna switch over from Ridgid.
The stacking of 2 half box issue is the main concern, a design flaw. Once they release the shims to fix it, it should be free. Since the newer box will fix this issue with new design, the shims should be free. ECO offer free drift kits for their snowblower that are older and have drift issue.
It would be interesting to see a comparison of all the modular drawers, I am an auto tech and I find the drawers to be more useful, I have a good amount of tstak and versastack and I am thinking of upgrading. Comparing drawer sizes, locking ability, possibly the amount of weight that a drawer can hold.
This is the one to get. It's heavy duty and you have four choices in the drawer selection category coming up.
Toughbuilt Stacktech is not for everyone, I returned a big system back to the store (Australia). Main issues the empty weight (2x the competitors, accessibility btw boxes on the rolling system, 3 drawer unit is small in a big box, single clip on organisers prone to opening - Packout wins here. Those with vans, Utes/Pick ups ideal, but I operate from back of SUV. Will keep looking.
I think this vid got me sold....gonna go shoppin!
Use WD-40 to remove the sticker residue. It won't damage the plastics.
I'm glad I waited
I would like to see them have a similar handle like the MODbox with spots to slide a level in. Thats just a better way to do it and you dont need to remove the leve to get into any box.
I'll make a Handler Level Holder to make any handle more similar to the mod box one.
These look like the crates in scifi movies and games like Doom.
With the stacking issue fix on its way, and the brilliance of the accessory rails, it’s a no brainer. For me being fairly invested in the packout system, now is not the time to switch. Next year..
Same boat, but Milwaukee has m12/18 specific attachments that stacktech cannot offer. If it wasn't for that I'd go with stacktech.
Yes but weihe designs will make them place nice together.
Awesome video, I'm curious though what brand are your levels never seen one like them?
The green ones are Masterforce from menards. I have a review of them on my channel
This review is/was amazing!!!!!
I wasnt going to condsider toughbuilt for a buy but sibce you showed whats coming out this i may have to wait and really consider this. I havd their tool brelt and some tools and really like them. I was also considering the kleine and the flex one. I currentky have a dewalt 2.0 which is nice but very basic wirh no accessories. I just might sell it in craigslist and use thst money to buy one of these better ones. Your videos are very informative thanks
I bought 2 complete systems at launch and love it so far! Just seen your review and agree with you on the improvements. I’d like to see a front opening case for sure. Also would be cool if toughbuilt teamed up with someone like EcoFlow to create a battery stack. Can you cover the cooler and tow hitch plate when they come in?
The sooner they release drawerunits and the wall mount system, the sooner they will dominate the market. I would buy a crap ton of them tomorrow.
They’re in some stores already
Milwaukee definitely missed out on designing accessories for their boxes when they had the chance and never seemed to embrace the metal corners the essentially pioneered
Meh. They make tons of accessories for their wall mounts. Just less profit margin for smaller accessories
Great video!
There hasn't been much, if any, advertisement in the UK for the stackteck. Im hoping this comes to the uk and were able to buy the full lineup
I’ve heard it’s coming in 2024
@JakeWeihe I've heard that, but only from TH-cam comments. I would have thought there would have been some advertising. I'm looking forward to trying it though
@@S.JCarpentry Toughbuilt Europe advised UK Retailers being lined ie Howdens UK & A.N.Other towards Q3-Q4/2024 or Q1/2025. Range & price unknown. Hong Kong pricing & range similar to Australia-major issue now is supply as stocks are low or none existent.
Great video man! I'm really looking forward to these! I think they will give packout a run for their money and I am planning on converting over to tough built from here on out as I find packout to be overpriced for what it is.
Thanks for watching!
@@JakeWeihe Hey do you have any info on when the next batch of stacktech will be available? I've been waiting to pull the trigger, but want the larger drawer boxes. No info on their website.
If someone was considering buying one of these at systems now, would you wait a few months into the new year hoping for product improvements or dive in now at holiday prices?
The best prices of the year are happening right now. I started with just the piece Packout stack a few years ago and slowly built up from there. Just get the pieces you know you’ll use and make sure they do what they’re supposed to do before walking out the store ( I’ve seen messed up boxes in stores from all the brands)
i’ve fully switched
The color issue real. Buying stacktech for the back of my truck just because I don’t want a neon sign riding around with me.
One that says “steal me steal me!”
It’s the reason I’m leaning towards these instead of Klein which is kind of killing me as an electrician lol
I hope the inside color is brighter to reflect more lights, so I find my small tools faster
I'm new to modular systems and drawers seem to be an important option from what I hear.
Definitely. But you can still get a lot of organization done with the main boxes
I love the Toughbuilt brand. I have tons of clips and pouches. I have over 50+ DeWalt toughsystem boxes. All of
Which have top handles on the large boxes. The B50 box should have a top handle. Even if you used the front handle the contents of the tray inside would dump all over. Using two hands to carry boxes is annoying. I tend to carry more than one box at a time on and off the job site when necessary. Would love to hear your opinion.
True. That is one feature it’s missing. I love the top handle on Packout and modbox. I’ll tell Devin from stacksmarter to make a top handle for the b50
@@JakeWeihe great review by the way. Keep up the good work👍🏽
I like that you have your own page. Great idea! I see a lot of decent items that I would like to purchase the problem with your pages. I got to search your entire page just to find them. So to help you out, set your web page according to the tool brand. If it's Milwaukee section everything for Milwaukee under Milwaukee because your first two items are Milwaukee your Third item is rigid or tough systems? I'm sorry I don't care about anything but Milwaukee so that's all I would like to see is just Milwaukee products. So after scrolling about five different items I gave up because I'm not scrolling all the way down to the bottom of your web page just to find items that I would like to purchase
I'm 7 pieces invested already lol
Nice! Keep us updated with how u like it
I have this system and it's great!
Wish they'd integrate the transparent cover with the base on those slim organizers. Lost count how many times I've seized the packout organizer handle, and the cover has spilled open when forgetting to latch. Screws/fixings everywhere - many expletives involved....
😬. Yup after one time I make sure to double check every time I grab a box now
I use packout, but there are alot of things other manufacturers have done to their products that Milwaukee should have or should employ with their system.
these box do look good, wish they just had top handles like the dewalt 2.0 tough system. dewalt 2.0 is best system so far apart from their draws. Milwaukee is way harder system to use they lack in side and top handles
Rigid original design was great, simple, and durable and large handles. I've had my Rigid setup for over 10 years! Only problem is where are their drawer units !!???.
Theses Tough Built have a nice latch system , better than sliding a heavy box like Milwaukee. Just wondering if the latch system will last?
Jake: Make a base plate with Velcro so you can put a box in a trunk of a car for: tools, first aid, groceries, sports equipment or camping gear. If a more robust baseplate was made with a locking slide, box compatibility combined with the accessibility would blow open the high priced overlanding gear market. v/r wh
It also occurred to me that you could market adapter plates to mix and match brands for folks who already invested in a kit and are at the limits of the available accessories or desire the features of a particular brand accessory and would like to incorporate it to their preferred system.
I like the idea! There’s a couple other guys in the add on community that are better equipped to make something like that. I’ll spread the word
I am beyond excited for this set up! And can’t wait to buy into it! Seem far superior to anything else out there even given the issues.
A few things I see….
- the rolling box handle. Why does it have to pull out? Why can’t it collapse all the way down like suitcase luggage? Then I don’t have to take it out and put it in…
-the ammo box tray versus the large box tray. Definitely a detractors they aren’t the same size. No, it’s likely I won’t cross load them often but it will happen. Why are they different? Why not be the same?
-the tool tote. A comment I’ve seen else where I agree with…why nothing for the clip tech like a rail hubs?
-I love the dewalt tote that is a zippered bag that it’s like a duffle bag for hand tools locks into the toughsystem 2.0. I want to see a version of that!
-when will the Lowe’s exclusive end? I have a Lowe’s 1.5 hours north and one the same south…too far away. When will this be available at Home Depot or my local building materials supplier?
Really bummed I didn’t see this when it came out to get that deal for 200 hopefully they bring it back soon
Darn, prices have gone up. $299.96 for the set of 3.
@Jake One thing I think you could sell for StackTech is plastic replacements for the metal corners. Many people, like myself, may never use those metal plates and would either take them off or replace them with something to cover the gap. You're welcome for the idea. :D Another cool quick vid would be a stat comparison between all the different boxes in something like a spreadsheet, including ST's stats.
Have been looking into a modular system and this one piqued my interest. The company makes very thoughtful and well made stuff. I hope they are able to actually release and sell all the pieces they have planned. The company is under some serious financial strain so a bankruptcy or forced buyout could curtail the vision they seem to be going for.
ToughBuilt's *replaceable* steel corners and heavier (more durable?) construction is a significant benefit. I like their (IP65) weather seal design. ToughBuilt needs to get rid of all those nuisance stickers.
If ToughBuilt goes the top stacking adapter plate route it would be beneficial to incorporate steel (or magnetic) strips into the adapter plate for magnetic parts/disassembly trays.
Overall, ToughBuilt off to a great start. The fact that ToughBuilt is (currently) a smaller company should provide an extra advantage when it comes to being more responsive to customers.
Lastly, regarding these portable storage systems, I prefer conventional pneumatic or foam-filled rubber tires over all the ‘low-budget’ plastic hub wheels these systems are using, especially when used on jobsites where water and mud can be commonplace.
If the slide out drawers are water proof I just might switch from buying the Dewalt Tough System 2.0 to the StackTech
The dewalt drawers are supposed to be water resistant. At least more than Packout. Are yours not?
I wish these came out before I got the husky build out :^x
buildout is still very good for the price
I just switched out all my Packout boxes to tough built. I get more stuff I less boxes
I would buy these right away if it had a shelf and a 3 drawer box
Check out ToughBuilt’s latest releases at Lowe’s
My concern is with 4 connection points, if some of them are malfunctioned, can I still take the box out? Packout’s has only 1 locking and it’s separated from the connection, worst case I can still break the locking latch & take it out.
Is it possible to make a locking plate for the stacktech 2-1 convertible hand truck vertical base plate such as the one on future hand truck?
I'm a huge fan of Toughbuilt but UK roll out is usually delayed as there is no main supplier. If you have any further contact can you see if they have a UK drop date?