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Picked this up day one on kickstarter, awesome system. Was wondering what fonts you chose for the subject line and body throughout this wonderous tome!
Chaos Magic is so fun. I ran a Maze Rats game and one player used Encoding Sphere to record an entire library full of books onto a silver ball, to be sold later to the Scholars Guild.
I preordered this in the fall as my first purchase after being out of work for a short stint. I was so excited for the content I got in the PDF that I broke my own rule about doing videos before I get a physical product. That video did over 8k views, which is substantial for my channel. To put it another way, I enjoyed the book enough that I bought the Limited Edition cover at Gary Con, even though I already had the PDF and and preorder copy of the regular copy on the way. This hits all the marks… it is a great game system for all ages and experience levels, it is extremely cross compatible with TSR era D&D products, AND it is the finest content generation tool (page for page) that I have on my shelf. Ben doesn’t know me, and I paid full price for my copies. This is a great book folks!
For my money, Peter Mullen is the true spiritual successor to Erol Otus's D&D/AD&D art. I'm glad I got my KS bundle. Great job fulfilling orders and good communication throughout!
@@Jimalcoatl I guess the short version is that I like to just pick a package and have done with it, but I like more distinct capabilities than Knave's item-based approach (which I'll grant is pretty cool from a design standpoint). I don't like point-buy systems either, or the many many feats of 3e/PF.
I love classless but an easy hack would be like, letting a class get some free slots for specific class items. Fighter can carry extra weapons, Wizard extra spell books, and thief extra adventuring gear. Honestly when I run this eventually I might do that and make an "Adventurer" class be the base RAW character. Just add a small downside to the classes as well.
My hardcover arrived in the mail last week. It’s a very nice book, I love how compact and easy to use it is. Truly embodies the mantra “All killer no filler.”
Ben, I can’t put your book down. I’m in the middle of writing (and hopefully some day publishing) my first adventure zine and Knave 2E could not have come out at a better time. It’s been extremely helpful. Thank you!
I love this book. One of the few kickstarters I really wanted to support. I already used the NPC generater in my game to give my 2 players some assistance in a hard dungeon crawl. Not only did they love the names for the charcters we had whole unplanned session just getting to know them and solving their miniscule problems between each other on a short trip to the dunegon. One of hopefully many sessions enhanced by this book. :)
Me before the video: There's no way he tried to cram every DnD world into 80 pages. Me after the video: Holy shit he tried to cram every DnD world into 80 pages!
This looks amazing! And I absolutely agree that content created from thoughtful and evocative random tables can have a larger impact on the game-at-the-table than mechanics. I’ve been home brewing my own system for four years, and early in the process I made about 50 pages of tables for defining a particular world-feel and it was the best investment I ever made in my games (even when running adjacent systems): prepping is fun and easy, monsters are always terrifying and unique, and my NPCs became so much richer and more fun for me to act out.
I absolutely love the design sensibility of having topics formatted to fit on either a single page or on a two-page layout. I wish this would catch on with the larger game companies.
Mine just arrived the other day, and I’m already toting it around and showing all my friends like a five-year-old with her new Christmas present! Mullen’s line art is GORGEOUS and a fantastic addition- I’m really looking forward to having it at table, and seeing how it runs 💜
One of the best KS' that I've taken part in .. no drama, no muss or fuss. Ran a game (Delian's Tomb) with it the first night I introduced it to my group.
absolutely love this game. i have a whole campaign I'm running right now that's almost entirely randomly generated using this book, the majority of which i've done on the fly, and the systems in place to improvise at the table have held up tremendously well. thanks so much Ben for making such a great game.
Been running a party of 4 through some OSR dungeons; first did "Tomb of the Serpent Kings" now we're playing Dyson's Delve. I love this rules set, and I use Necrotic Gnome's OSE SRD for reference too
Fantastic book, I couldn't be happier with my purchase. I especially like your Designer's Commentary. It feels supportive of the community of independent creators, which is cool. Plus there are a couple of books on there I haven't read yet!
Love the book! Had the PDF versions for a bit, of course, but just received the hard copy yesterday. Hadn't dug in much until it got in-hand, and I immediately got to spreading the potion brewing rules to my players itching for downtime activities. That then inspired me to use your brewing rules as the framework for an enchantment system that my players are also enjoying now (published on our campaign website). Thanks for this great work!
After reading through the book, I'm surprised by how great all the tables are and how much I like them. Makes a great tool for any rpg i might eant to run, even if it isn't necessary Knave.
I am a big fan of Peter Mullen's art. His gm screen for Old School Essentials is the best looking gm screen ever. I will use that no matter what game I am gming. The maps in the back look amazing as well!
Beautiful and usable layout and beautiful art. That is one really attractive book and that's without even going into the contents. I'll be buying one for certain.
Good review QB. I picked up a copy of the feeeancy edition from the Swordfish Islands folks at North Texas RPG Con 2024 and am looking forward to using it. Bravo. -Ol' Man Grognard
Hello Mr. Ben, could you make a video about your opinion on dogs in dungeons as animals to help players? Since in the OSE they don't have the "tenacious" characteristic present in mules and donkeys.
Backed the Kickstarter. Love the game. I also have one of those rare Knave 1e printing that you had available a couple of years back and a Maze Rats self-print that is worn out from use. These new versions are so much nicer. 🙂 Thanks for a making a couple of great game, Ben. Cheers!
I can't wait mash up this thing of beauty with our systems, EZD6 and other Runehammer books, and The Monster Overhaul, and Errant, and Cairn, and itchio solo games, and everything. Wrote like 4 books in my head while just watching this. I cannot remember being this excited for a book release, let alone for a second edition. Thank you for this and for being relentless communicator and reminder of what's good about this osr nsr fkr open indie small press alt scene.
Intriguing looking book! Good luck to the new edition! I hope it gets some actual play treatment on TH-cam. Something maybe short but with good sound and showing off different aspects of the game, like Game Garage by Glass Cannon for example. With our group we have just picked up the first edition and are enjoying it quite a bit playing through the Tomb of Snake Kings, however seeing the rules in action would have been a massive help.
I backed the Kickstarter and got my book in and already read it. Some interesting stuff. I don't know if I ever actually will play or run Knave 2E but I didn't buy the book for that. I looked at it more like a GM tool kit and absolutely loved it as that. The random tables are going to be so helpful when preparing and creating things. Thank you for making an awesome product that can double as a game and tool kit. Edit: I absolutely loved the weather shifting rules. Will probably have a copy of that chart and use it in a lot of games.
Damn, this looks really good! I didn't realise before but I totally agree with that those tables (and atmosphere/inspiration those bring) can mean a lot more for a game than just mechanics
hope my copy comes in soon - i got the shipping notification email a week ago but according to USPS the label was created but they still don't have the package
Mr. Milton, can you show us your insights about animals in the dungeon, particulary dogs and donkeys. In Brazil OSR scene, this sounds silly, but is a very debated scenario. Thanks!!
Congrats! title had me worried, lol. halfway through writing a compendium for all the D&D settings/modules and thought someone beat me to it.
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Hey, Ben! The book is exactly everything what I am looking for in roleplaying games. Simple rules and player choices determined by the world around them and items they carry. Before your system I looked at Shadowdark, Index Card RPG, Five Torches Deep, and many other. The reason why I discovered your system only now is that I missed the kickstarter and your video is (at least for me) a little bit hard to find. It doesn't contain the name of the game in the title, and moreover contains D&D - which is a thing I was desperately trying to find an alternative to. Maybe changing the title to ”Knave 2e: Every fantasy roleplaying trope in one book“ would help people like myself to find it more quickly. Anyways, thanks for the great overview, great system and your relentless dedication for our hobby.
I was so excited when my book came in the mail! This is the system I am most excited to try running by far. Now to just convince my players to give it a try...
Man, I am dying to look at and review this! Sadly, I am going to have to save up for awhile, as you practically need to sell your firstborn to pay for shipping to Canada these days! Keep being awesome! - Brian from Welcome to the Deathtrap
Those tables feels very inspiring! I wonder if any rpg would benefit from those, what may change could be when they are used, before the session for a classic story focused rpg or during the session for old school sand box one.
Man I bought the pdf because I was Kickstarting too much and I was convinced I didn't need this physical.. now I'm so tempted to pick it up. Peter Mullens art is top notch
I absolutely love the art work for the Maze Rats and Summers End zines. May I ask who did the art work for those? Everything looks amazing, job well done Ben!
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Picked this up day one on kickstarter, awesome system. Was wondering what fonts you chose for the subject line and body throughout this wonderous tome!
Is this game available in spanish or is it only in english?
Just came here to say I own everything you’ve released. Thank you!
Does it come with a Word Document/template like Knave 1e?
Great review. You really raised the bar, Ben. Best of luck with Knave! -Professor DM
Thanks!
Chaos Magic is so fun. I ran a Maze Rats game and one player used Encoding Sphere to record an entire library full of books onto a silver ball, to be sold later to the Scholars Guild.
I am irrationally excited by the Career system. I've always wanted to see that mechanic expanded in DnD and you did it!
I preordered this in the fall as my first purchase after being out of work for a short stint. I was so excited for the content I got in the PDF that I broke my own rule about doing videos before I get a physical product. That video did over 8k views, which is substantial for my channel. To put it another way, I enjoyed the book enough that I bought the Limited Edition cover at Gary Con, even though I already had the PDF and and preorder copy of the regular copy on the way. This hits all the marks… it is a great game system for all ages and experience levels, it is extremely cross compatible with TSR era D&D products, AND it is the finest content generation tool (page for page) that I have on my shelf. Ben doesn’t know me, and I paid full price for my copies. This is a great book folks!
For my money, Peter Mullen is the true spiritual successor to Erol Otus's D&D/AD&D art.
I'm glad I got my KS bundle. Great job fulfilling orders and good communication throughout!
If you want prime DnD art one only needs to see Larry Elmores attention to detail. Only Elmore knows how to paint spell componenets for wizards. ;)
I'm honestly not too big on classless systems, but like you said, these d100 tables look SUPER useful. I might grab a copy just for those!
There are some class hacks for Knave 1e out there that would likely work for 2e with little to no work.
As someone who isn't big on class systems, I'm curious as to why you prefer class systems over classless.
@@Jimalcoatl I guess the short version is that I like to just pick a package and have done with it, but I like more distinct capabilities than Knave's item-based approach (which I'll grant is pretty cool from a design standpoint). I don't like point-buy systems either, or the many many feats of 3e/PF.
I love classless but an easy hack would be like, letting a class get some free slots for specific class items. Fighter can carry extra weapons, Wizard extra spell books, and thief extra adventuring gear.
Honestly when I run this eventually I might do that and make an "Adventurer" class be the base RAW character. Just add a small downside to the classes as well.
@@adamjchafe Cool thought, sounds like a decent blend of the two designs.
My hardcover arrived in the mail last week. It’s a very nice book, I love how compact and easy to use it is. Truly embodies the mantra “All killer no filler.”
Ben, I can’t put your book down. I’m in the middle of writing (and hopefully some day publishing) my first adventure zine and Knave 2E could not have come out at a better time. It’s been extremely helpful. Thank you!
Just ordered the Knave book and Summer's End zine. I want to use this in my 4th/5th grade D&D club at school. Hope all is well, Ben!
I don't have any experience running a game for that age group, but Knave seems like it would be really fun for them!
That maze rats print is awesome. I wanna stock those at my LGS.
I have been honestly so bummed at missing the kickstarter. This made my day. Already ordered. Thank you for making rad things!
I love this book.
One of the few kickstarters I really wanted to support.
I already used the NPC generater in my game to give my 2 players some assistance in a hard dungeon crawl.
Not only did they love the names for the charcters we had whole unplanned session just getting to know them and solving their miniscule problems between each other on a short trip to the dunegon. One of hopefully many sessions enhanced by this book. :)
Me before the video: There's no way he tried to cram every DnD world into 80 pages.
Me after the video: Holy shit he tried to cram every DnD world into 80 pages!
ONE BILLION SPELL PROMPTS! No, really that's how many spells lol.
This looks amazing! And I absolutely agree that content created from thoughtful and evocative random tables can have a larger impact on the game-at-the-table than mechanics. I’ve been home brewing my own system for four years, and early in the process I made about 50 pages of tables for defining a particular world-feel and it was the best investment I ever made in my games (even when running adjacent systems): prepping is fun and easy, monsters are always terrifying and unique, and my NPCs became so much richer and more fun for me to act out.
Fully agree. Tables for prep is the way to go.
Just creates a spark that can turn into a fire of creativity.
Ben, you are an absolute treasure to the TTRPG community!! Please keep up your awesome work!!
I absolutely love the design sensibility of having topics formatted to fit on either a single page or on a two-page layout. I wish this would catch on with the larger game companies.
I love how the monster on page 60 looks more real than the delvers.
Those poor delvers are about to get a lot less real!
Mine just arrived the other day, and I’m already toting it around and showing all my friends like a five-year-old with her new Christmas present! Mullen’s line art is GORGEOUS and a fantastic addition- I’m really looking forward to having it at table, and seeing how it runs 💜
I look forward to buying this as soon as it becomes available in Europe!
One of the best KS' that I've taken part in .. no drama, no muss or fuss. Ran a game (Delian's Tomb) with it the first night I introduced it to my group.
Finally! I've been checking again and again hoping to get a copy of the book since I missed the Kickstarter. Thanks SO much for posting this!
Can't wait to take a look at my kickstarted copy
Just received my copy yesterday. Very happy with it, thanks Ben for creating this!!
absolutely love this game. i have a whole campaign I'm running right now that's almost entirely randomly generated using this book, the majority of which i've done on the fly, and the systems in place to improvise at the table have held up tremendously well. thanks so much Ben for making such a great game.
Love it! The random tables are awesome and you could use them in any RPG!
I'm already putting my friends through a 3+ months campaign with a draft version. 😂 Really amazing, the tables are a banger!
Been running a party of 4 through some OSR dungeons; first did "Tomb of the Serpent Kings" now we're playing Dyson's Delve. I love this rules set, and I use Necrotic Gnome's OSE SRD for reference too
Fantastic book, I couldn't be happier with my purchase. I especially like your Designer's Commentary. It feels supportive of the community of independent creators, which is cool. Plus there are a couple of books on there I haven't read yet!
MY copy showed up yesterday - one pass through and I love it, looking forward to digging deeper and integrating into my existing campaign.
Looks fantastic!! I'm excited for my copy to arrive!!
Congratulations Sir. All of your hard work and dedication paid. You've made a game you can be really proud of. I'm very happy for all of your success.
Love the book! Had the PDF versions for a bit, of course, but just received the hard copy yesterday. Hadn't dug in much until it got in-hand, and I immediately got to spreading the potion brewing rules to my players itching for downtime activities. That then inspired me to use your brewing rules as the framework for an enchantment system that my players are also enjoying now (published on our campaign website).
Thanks for this great work!
After reading through the book, I'm surprised by how great all the tables are and how much I like them. Makes a great tool for any rpg i might eant to run, even if it isn't necessary Knave.
The art in this book is pure fire.
I am a big fan of Peter Mullen's art. His gm screen for Old School Essentials is the best looking gm screen ever. I will use that no matter what game I am gming. The maps in the back look amazing as well!
My players love the OSE screen!
I loved it! Thanks for the tour of the book. Now I gotta get me one
My copy came yesterday! I am seriously digging the rules and tables!
My stuff should be here Monday and I can't wait!! Looking forward to see all the cool art, the tables, and the design notes...
Really cool book and great random tables.
Beautiful and usable layout and beautiful art. That is one really attractive book and that's without even going into the contents. I'll be buying one for certain.
Cat & Candle was the name of a bookstore in my hometown where I bought my first D&D books.
Good review QB. I picked up a copy of the feeeancy edition from the Swordfish Islands folks at North Texas RPG Con 2024 and am looking forward to using it. Bravo.
-Ol' Man Grognard
Just got mine yesterday and I love it! The tables will certainly be put to use and I'd love to eventually try running a game.
Wisdom for ranged attack checks? I don't get it, how?
Have used Knave 2e for Waking of Willowby Hall and Demon Driven to the Maw so far. Both went really well! Great work on this ruleset, QB.
Hello Mr. Ben, could you make a video about your opinion on dogs in dungeons as animals to help players? Since in the OSE they don't have the "tenacious" characteristic present in mules and donkeys.
This is one of the most debated topics in the Brazilian OSR. Please Mr. Ben, give us your opinion on this issue
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I have no opinion on the subject
This is on my shelf next to my desk. Such a great little book! I'm using it as a toolkit, but the game itself is really great! Great job with this.
Backed the Kickstarter. Love the game. I also have one of those rare Knave 1e printing that you had available a couple of years back and a Maze Rats self-print that is worn out from use. These new versions are so much nicer. 🙂
Thanks for a making a couple of great game, Ben.
Cheers!
Dying to get my mitts on this.
Appreciate the perspective and the work.
I can't wait mash up this thing of beauty with our systems, EZD6 and other Runehammer books, and The Monster Overhaul, and Errant, and Cairn, and itchio solo games, and everything. Wrote like 4 books in my head while just watching this. I cannot remember being this excited for a book release, let alone for a second edition. Thank you for this and for being relentless communicator and reminder of what's good about this osr nsr fkr open indie small press alt scene.
Intriguing looking book!
Good luck to the new edition! I hope it gets some actual play treatment on TH-cam. Something maybe short but with good sound and showing off different aspects of the game, like Game Garage by Glass Cannon for example.
With our group we have just picked up the first edition and are enjoying it quite a bit playing through the Tomb of Snake Kings, however seeing the rules in action would have been a massive help.
I'm so excited to receive my copy! I plan to run some games with it, but those random tables will be great for any game!
Between this preview, and my friend telling me about this... I am so regretting not backing this. The good news is it's for sale now! Thanks again!
Having just received my copy of the book a day or two ago, it was nice to go through it while watching this video
I backed the Kickstarter and got my book in and already read it. Some interesting stuff. I don't know if I ever actually will play or run Knave 2E but I didn't buy the book for that. I looked at it more like a GM tool kit and absolutely loved it as that. The random tables are going to be so helpful when preparing and creating things. Thank you for making an awesome product that can double as a game and tool kit.
Edit: I absolutely loved the weather shifting rules. Will probably have a copy of that chart and use it in a lot of games.
I have a copy of maze rats I printed and bound, and my copy of knave showed up recently. I love both so much. Those tables are just so good!
Damn, this looks really good! I didn't realise before but I totally agree with that those tables (and atmosphere/inspiration those bring) can mean a lot more for a game than just mechanics
I want to get a phisical copy, but the shipping is too much for eu... Do you know if this will be available from other eu stores? 😢
I was gutted that I missed the Kickstarter and have been waiting for this update. I've just placed my order. Keep up the good work!
Been waiting a while for this. Very excited.
Looks fantastic, well done, just ordered a copy!
Thanks for all your work on this, Ben! It will be a GM toolkit for the ages!
Just got my book in this week! I'm going to run a one shot this weekend, but I hope to turn it into a campaign soon!
Just got my copy in the mail yesterday! Absolutely love it. Great stuff!
hope my copy comes in soon - i got the shipping notification email a week ago but according to USPS the label was created but they still don't have the package
The book arrived today, but I won’t be back home for a few days. Congratulations, Ben.
Mr. Milton, can you show us your insights about animals in the dungeon, particulary dogs and donkeys. In Brazil OSR scene, this sounds silly, but is a very debated scenario. Thanks!!
Congrats! title had me worried, lol.
halfway through writing a compendium for all the D&D settings/modules and thought someone beat me to it.
Hey, Ben! The book is exactly everything what I am looking for in roleplaying games. Simple rules and player choices determined by the world around them and items they carry. Before your system I looked at Shadowdark, Index Card RPG, Five Torches Deep, and many other.
The reason why I discovered your system only now is that I missed the kickstarter and your video is (at least for me) a little bit hard to find. It doesn't contain the name of the game in the title, and moreover contains D&D - which is a thing I was desperately trying to find an alternative to. Maybe changing the title to ”Knave 2e: Every fantasy roleplaying trope in one book“ would help people like myself to find it more quickly.
Anyways, thanks for the great overview, great system and your relentless dedication for our hobby.
I was so excited when my book came in the mail! This is the system I am most excited to try running by far. Now to just convince my players to give it a try...
Players should be asking questions!
War dogs destroying and ravaging dungeons makes my day. Waiting for the video about dogs delving in dungeons, Mr. Ben. Brazil loves you.
Why is everyone suddenly asking about dogs in dungeons?
I JUST got my KS copy in the mail yesterday and I couldn't put it down! It's STACKED & PACKED!💪💪💪
Same here
very cool, too bad shipping to canada is so expensive maybe ill do the pdf, awesome stuff as usual Ben ty
Yeah, shipping can be a pain
I actually can't wait to buy this book this month. I'm pretty sold on this system.
Just got mine. The hardcover book looks great, and just got a small game started with it.
Its been fun ride so far!
Looks amazing, congrats!
The Catherine spell gave me a good chuckle
Knave 3rd edition should have some recomendations for Relics.
Love your work, already integrated this book to my D&D toolbox
I Love ALL Questing Beast videos! Your players ask useful questions? Mine usually don't.
Man, I am dying to look at and review this! Sadly, I am going to have to save up for awhile, as you practically need to sell your firstborn to pay for shipping to Canada these days!
Keep being awesome!
- Brian from Welcome to the Deathtrap
Got my copy yesterday. Thanks Ben!
Holy! Finally, I can get the new edition of my favorite TRPG rules!
Those tables feels very inspiring! I wonder if any rpg would benefit from those, what may change could be when they are used, before the session for a classic story focused rpg or during the session for old school sand box one.
My kickstarter is on the way now! Can’t wait to get it! Gonna be a huge resource for solo gaming for me!
Ordered the print copy yesterday. It can't get here soon enough!
Congratulations on the new book. What an awesome game it is!
Cheers!
Man I bought the pdf because I was Kickstarting too much and I was convinced I didn't need this physical.. now I'm so tempted to pick it up. Peter Mullens art is top notch
I can't wait to get my copy! Very excited to play it.
My copy arrived a few days ago and I can't wait to get it to the table!!
Looks amazing, Ben! I love it ❤
I absolutely love the art work for the Maze Rats and Summers End zines. May I ask who did the art work for those? Everything looks amazing, job well done Ben!
DC Stow
This is gorgeous. Missed out on the KS due to low funds, but might pick it up later on.
Just got my copy! I read along with your review. I great piece of work.
Loved the book! Can't wait to start implementing it in my games.
I don't play OSR but man, the quality of your stuff makes it tempting to buy anyway!
The random tables are useful for everyone!
Please, make a video about the use of dogs in dungeons. It helps to save lives of lots of players in the early levels.
Never used a dog before
My party would lose more characters to keeping the dog safe than they would going without…
My book came in the other day! Great stuff.