As Gus says, that sort of thing doesn't happen. They were so convinced the ships were infallible and could fix any problem themselves that they never conceived the level of systemic failure that happens as a result of the meteor strike.
Aerospace Engineer here. Even on space x rockets designed to be god damn perfect in terms of systems, they still chuck 9 CPUs in just incase. We design things not to be failproof.. we design em to be fail SAFE. I.e. a computer not designed to accommodate for even the impossible failure, wouldn't get past the greenlight.
One major flaw in that scene with the pool is that the bubble wouldnt form at all. From memory it's about 5 or 10m diameter, seemingly held together by surface tension. The surface tension would not be strong enough to hold a bubble that big together, it would break into thousands of smaller pieces. She would be fine, but it wouldn't be as dramatic for the viewers!
If the gravity is caused by the ship rotating, momentum would keep it rotating for quite a long time after a failure. You would experience a gradual reduction in gravity as friction in the bearings slowed it down. Gravity wouldn't just suddenly turn off and then gradually turn back on again.
@@roidnerd2501 The technology is fictional, but it is clearly intended to be based on real science. If they wanted fictional science, they would be using a "graviton generator" or some such technobabble, not a centrifuge.
@@thomasdalton1508 right but its all fiction how do you know its based on real science did you speak with the director or producers clearly its not aimed at real science at all the, If it was based on real science dont you think they would have actually spent time going into how gravity would actually work clearly nothing is based on real science hence the robot that looks human and talks human that is enough to tell you its not based on real science
Right?? Also if you think about they are advanced in technology. Would it have been cheaper to create repair drones / robots to wake up instantly when there is a failure in the system to repair the ship? I know it’s a bit star warsie but it would be smart to do that. Especially robots that would help remedy the issue of someone like Chris pratt’s character of waking up wayyy early in the trip.
which would mean they would have none when they landed. waking up some is an absolutely good idea if they have ship engineering skills. but waking them all up is an emotional reaction that could doom the colony
Wait, does this ship have some kind of force field? Cause to my understanding after seeing a clip of the main character sending a distress signal the ship is traveling at ~1/6 the speed of light. Without a forward shield even hitting even a tiny object traveling at normal speeds in any direct would be a catastrophic impact.
Where are they going at 1/6th the speed of light? Even the nearest star would be many centuries away wouldn't it? Without some really wild, physics-ignoring travel tech, space is just not happening. As for the shielding, isn't space travel (even our own anticipated excursions to neighbouring planets) reliant on the astronomically low odds of hitting anything - again, because space is just so comically, ludicrously, unfathomably massively cavernous?
The ship does have a force field. The beginning of the movie shows the ship maxing all the energy into the forward shield as it braces for a direct collision with a comet like structure basically equal to the size of the ship. We find out a small debris chunk makes it through the shield and causes the problems.
Did you watch the movie? At the beginning it clearly shows you the meteorite storm, being smashed by the shield; one huge meteorite manages to make it thru - but by that time its only about the size of a fist. It goes thru multiple layers of the ship, lodging in the fusion engine's tokamak.
That water scene looks aeesome but makes very little sense. You wouldnt be stuck in it like in a jelly like material. And also when you drown you breath in water, not just fall asleep.
It's not great. You wouldn't have any buoyancy, so couldn't float to the surface, but swimming would work as normal. At first, she swims to the edge of the ball of water just fine and gets some air, but then for no reason is unable to do the same again. You don't necessarily breathe in significant amounts of water when drowning. While, eventually, the reflex to breathe will overwhelm the instinct to hold your breath while underwater (we see one body spasm as her body is fighting itself, trying to breathe and hold its breath at the same time - there should have been quite a few of them), the first bit of water you inhale will usually trigger your larynx to spasm, sealing your airway and preventing any more water getting in. You can then stay unconscious underwater for several minutes before hypoxia (too little oxygen) and hypercapnia (too much carbon dioxide) start to cause serious problems.
@@thomasdalton1508 A lot of people drowned on pools cause an earthquake happend during swiming, all the water bounces and your swimming it's not enough to get out.
1: The gravity on the ship in created by the rotation, so it wouldn’t just stop like that. 2: She would be able to swim out of that bubble easily. The water wouldn’t form a huge blob though.
Actually, it is about right (except for the fact that there is no reason for her to drown - she could swim to the edge just fine). We only see one spasm as her body fights itself to both breathe and hold its breath, when there should be many and there are no obvious indications of laryngeal spasm (which would be required to stop water filling her lungs after she lost consciousness), but I'm not sure what indications you would really expect to see. It's generally accurate, though.
yeah but also a sense of being kind by waking Jim up and Gus to save the ship without them waking up the ship would have been screwed when you think about it
@raven4k998 Imagine, if you will, if you had a day-school that was knowingly operated by pedophiles? What would you have? Generations of traumatized people. America in its infantcy was molested by slavemasters and slave-breeders. James Madison was a slave breeder. Thomas Jefferson OWNED more than 600 slaves, more than 3oo souls than Washington. Look at America today, it is run by foreigners. The2ir everything is worthless. Their currency has an estimated value of one-ten 3 of a dollar (.0001). In other words, a million dollars is only worth around 10 thousand. Is value is determined by the Federal r1eserve
Yeah, i haven't seen the whole movie yet, but that makes NO sense. It industries like this, there is redundancy. There are overrides. Failsafe protocols. Emergency interruptions. Hell, it makes no sense that this 120 year flight doesn't wake up different crew members every 5-10 years to make sure everything is optimal.
yeah but think about how likely this is to reality with our tech i can see this happening oh the ships immortal nothing can take this ship down until oh look something is taking the ship down🤣🤣
just because gravity is out doesn mean you cant swim anymore... the reason you flop around so much in zero g is that air doesnt offer much mass to push off not like water.... water will be enough to push yourself through it like in earth gravity only thing is that a large mass of water in zero g means youd problably end up in the center of it once it forms so swim fast and grab to things so it doesnt drag you away.
Such a large mass of water would have broken up easily with her flailing around like that. The surface tension of water isn't strong enough to hold such a large mass together. It would have broken up into bubbels and she would just be floating around with all of the water bubbles and when the "gravity generator" kicked back in she would fall and possible get hurt. Also, before the water broke up she would have been able to swim more easily due to the fact water is much more dense than air. Of course because this is a science fiction movie... we don't really know how the gravity generator and whatnot functions on such a ship so it's all whatever... lol.
Did you not watch the movie? They did, but his pod had a failure and he did not wake up like he should, he was dying from the moment he was awake as all his organs were damaged.
This is what happens if you are overly confident in the thing you design. There is no such thing as fail-safe, there are always unsafe consequences that are overlooked.
so computer already knows the ship is doomed and still decides to not wake up the engineer or flight crew, which genius designed this computer
I mean there’s still an engineer granted not crew but still can fix stuff
As Gus says, that sort of thing doesn't happen. They were so convinced the ships were infallible and could fix any problem themselves that they never conceived the level of systemic failure that happens as a result of the meteor strike.
Aerospace Engineer here. Even on space x rockets designed to be god damn perfect in terms of systems, they still chuck 9 CPUs in just incase.
We design things not to be failproof.. we design em to be fail SAFE.
I.e. a computer not designed to accommodate for even the impossible failure, wouldn't get past the greenlight.
its a movie bro. if that fail safe happened there wouldn't be any movie.
@@soccerguy2433 yea ik its just funny to point out
A screen that shows all the health issues the chief has. My favorite is, "tertiary syphilis."
lmfao that's true. i wonder how the pod infected him with treponema pallidum
A futuristic Crew member having a pre-20th anti biotic era disease
One major flaw in that scene with the pool is that the bubble wouldnt form at all. From memory it's about 5 or 10m diameter, seemingly held together by surface tension.
The surface tension would not be strong enough to hold a bubble that big together, it would break into thousands of smaller pieces.
She would be fine, but it wouldn't be as dramatic for the viewers!
what is the point of making a bot to post on obscure videos?
If the gravity is caused by the ship rotating, momentum would keep it rotating for quite a long time after a failure. You would experience a gradual reduction in gravity as friction in the bearings slowed it down. Gravity wouldn't just suddenly turn off and then gradually turn back on again.
how do you know is there actually a real world experience that you have had
@@roidnerd2501 No. I just understand basic physics.
@@thomasdalton1508 well they are using Technology that does not exists so how do you know its not like its based on actually real science
@@roidnerd2501 The technology is fictional, but it is clearly intended to be based on real science. If they wanted fictional science, they would be using a "graviton generator" or some such technobabble, not a centrifuge.
@@thomasdalton1508 right but its all fiction how do you know its based on real science did you speak with the director or producers clearly its not aimed at real science at all the, If it was based on real science dont you think they would have actually spent time going into how gravity would actually work clearly nothing is based on real science hence the robot that looks human and talks human that is enough to tell you its not based on real science
Damn 8 years late. What an awesome movie.
well you know better late then never😀😀
I woulda woke all the engineers and repairman up right then and there to deal with this situation.
Right?? Also if you think about they are advanced in technology. Would it have been cheaper to create repair drones / robots to wake up instantly when there is a failure in the system to repair the ship? I know it’s a bit star warsie but it would be smart to do that. Especially robots that would help remedy the issue of someone like Chris pratt’s character of waking up wayyy early in the trip.
which would mean they would have none when they landed. waking up some is an absolutely good idea if they have ship engineering skills. but waking them all up is an emotional reaction that could doom the colony
@@madmanwithaplan1826why did the make so you couldn’t go back to sleep?
if its true you cant go Back to sleep, youd essentially be sentencing whoever you woke with death
@@contrnsmagnificndjoobngtaintunless have an orgy
Wait, does this ship have some kind of force field? Cause to my understanding after seeing a clip of the main character sending a distress signal the ship is traveling at ~1/6 the speed of light. Without a forward shield even hitting even a tiny object traveling at normal speeds in any direct would be a catastrophic impact.
Ok thanks for the analysis Captain Picard
Where are they going at 1/6th the speed of light? Even the nearest star would be many centuries away wouldn't it? Without some really wild, physics-ignoring travel tech, space is just not happening.
As for the shielding, isn't space travel (even our own anticipated excursions to neighbouring planets) reliant on the astronomically low odds of hitting anything - again, because space is just so comically, ludicrously, unfathomably massively cavernous?
The ship does have a force field. The beginning of the movie shows the ship maxing all the energy into the forward shield as it braces for a direct collision with a comet like structure basically equal to the size of the ship. We find out a small debris chunk makes it through the shield and causes the problems.
Did you watch the movie? At the beginning it clearly shows you the meteorite storm, being smashed by the shield; one huge meteorite manages to make it thru - but by that time its only about the size of a fist. It goes thru multiple layers of the ship, lodging in the fusion engine's tokamak.
Yea, do a search on youtube for passengers intro, it's a great sequence.
The pool thing is beyond ridiculous
That water scene looks aeesome but makes very little sense. You wouldnt be stuck in it like in a jelly like material. And also when you drown you breath in water, not just fall asleep.
It's not great. You wouldn't have any buoyancy, so couldn't float to the surface, but swimming would work as normal. At first, she swims to the edge of the ball of water just fine and gets some air, but then for no reason is unable to do the same again.
You don't necessarily breathe in significant amounts of water when drowning. While, eventually, the reflex to breathe will overwhelm the instinct to hold your breath while underwater (we see one body spasm as her body is fighting itself, trying to breathe and hold its breath at the same time - there should have been quite a few of them), the first bit of water you inhale will usually trigger your larynx to spasm, sealing your airway and preventing any more water getting in. You can then stay unconscious underwater for several minutes before hypoxia (too little oxygen) and hypercapnia (too much carbon dioxide) start to cause serious problems.
@@thomasdalton1508 A lot of people drowned on pools cause an earthquake happend during swiming, all the water bounces and your swimming it's not enough to get out.
@@raptorduck8785 An earthquake involves shaking, so the water is moving around randomly. That's very different to just floating there in a big blob.
1: The gravity on the ship in created by the rotation, so it wouldn’t just stop like that.
2: She would be able to swim out of that bubble easily. The water wouldn’t form a huge blob though.
Certainly not an expert, but I'm reasonably sure drowning doesn't work like that.
Yeah, I think this film suffered from some issues, one of which was the "drowning" scene, amongst others.
Yeah this scene is pretty dumb. The most realistic drowning scene I have ever seen would be when kurt Russell downs in the movie Poseidon.
Actually, it is about right (except for the fact that there is no reason for her to drown - she could swim to the edge just fine). We only see one spasm as her body fights itself to both breathe and hold its breath, when there should be many and there are no obvious indications of laryngeal spasm (which would be required to stop water filling her lungs after she lost consciousness), but I'm not sure what indications you would really expect to see. It's generally accurate, though.
@@thomasdalton1508 It’s “generally” accurate? It is “about” right? It’s either accurate or right, or it’s not.
@@BadMannerKorea Nonsense. There are degrees of accuracy.
The Universe has a sense of humor😉
yeah but also a sense of being kind by waking Jim up and Gus to save the ship without them waking up the ship would have been screwed when you think about it
@raven4k998
Imagine, if you will, if you had a day-school that was knowingly operated by pedophiles? What would you have? Generations of traumatized people.
America in its infantcy was molested by slavemasters and slave-breeders. James Madison was a slave breeder. Thomas Jefferson OWNED more than 600 slaves, more than 3oo souls than Washington.
Look at America today, it is run by foreigners. The2ir everything is worthless. Their currency has an estimated value of one-ten 3 of a dollar (.0001). In other words, a million dollars is only worth around 10 thousand. Is value is determined by the Federal r1eserve
Being so confident the ship wouldn’t break is so stupid dude… WHAT IF IT BREAKS
Yeah, i haven't seen the whole movie yet, but that makes NO sense. It industries like this, there is redundancy. There are overrides. Failsafe protocols. Emergency interruptions.
Hell, it makes no sense that this 120 year flight doesn't wake up different crew members every 5-10 years to make sure everything is optimal.
What if your plane breaks mid fly? What if your submarine breaks underwater? You are doomed, same here.
It's the Titanic all over again. But in space!
@@Continusbeat me to it
It happend multiple times through out history so
This film is hilarious 😂
yeah but think about how likely this is to reality with our tech i can see this happening oh the ships immortal nothing can take this ship down until oh look something is taking the ship down🤣🤣
Fortunately no damage to the computer program that gets Jennifer Lawrence into a swimsuit.
That program runs on every male brain pan alive.
just because gravity is out doesn mean you cant swim anymore... the reason you flop around so much in zero g is that air doesnt offer much mass to push off not like water.... water will be enough to push yourself through it like in earth gravity only thing is that a large mass of water in zero g means youd problably end up in the center of it once it forms so swim fast and grab to things so it doesnt drag you away.
Such a large mass of water would have broken up easily with her flailing around like that. The surface tension of water isn't strong enough to hold such a large mass together. It would have broken up into bubbels and she would just be floating around with all of the water bubbles and when the "gravity generator" kicked back in she would fall and possible get hurt. Also, before the water broke up she would have been able to swim more easily due to the fact water is much more dense than air.
Of course because this is a science fiction movie... we don't really know how the gravity generator and whatnot functions on such a ship so it's all whatever... lol.
They should have just brought Gus to the doc box thing
Did you not watch the movie? They did, but his pod had a failure and he did not wake up like he should, he was dying from the moment he was awake as all his organs were damaged.
This is what happens if you are overly confident in the thing you design. There is no such thing as fail-safe, there are always unsafe consequences that are overlooked.
Can you not put spoilers in your thumbnails please? 2 major Last of Us spoilers in your thumbnails on this video.
why are you on social media and youtube, looking for a trailer of a movie (from about 10 years ago) you did not see yet?
Nope, not going to Mars. We need to fix Earth.
SYFY Gilligans Island and its really a fun watch!
Lots of physics and engineering professors in these comments
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0:49 - her breath wouldn't rise to the top of the water in zero g.
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