Well, I didn't measure the pickup and string height, but the setup was pretty close on all of them. In some cases, like my 88 Japanese P bass, the strings were very old. I didn't want to change them for the review - so that is a noticeable difference. The main point was to illustrate how well the Squiers compare. Glad you liked it.
BigNickel Its funny, I thought the Squier Jazz was the standout of that make, had a little more blowsy character, while the Fender was tighter and has more definition (probably more suited to live context eh) :)
I didn't mean to take away from the exceptional tones from the Squier Jazz, I just meant the Fender Jazz is nearly unbeatable for for me personally. For the price point of the Squier you can't go wrong at all, they have truly done well with their whole affordable guitar line-up.
Of the three comparisons, to my ear only the jazz basses had a truly distinct sound difference. The Fender edged the Squier....but....it wasn't that far behind.
Simplified its all about the money, yes Fender forever BUT Squier 2012/2013/2014 have the sound and the all around wood to get the bass player right in the center of the music being played, from punk to rock to goth to new age to Jupiter if you want. It is in the fingers, I'm so glad that 90% of the musicians are ignoring the product placement and go for what they feel in their hands Fender or Squier, hey, we love it all .
True. But don't forget there are other Fender copy's then only Squier. Other copy's like Farida, Vintage and many more are made in the same factory's as the Squiers, are cheaper and just as good or better then the Squiers.
And it could just be the difference in the tone pot and capacitor. And to be fair the American is a custom shop. But I’m still going to save a few hundred more for the American jazz. I’ve got an older Peavey import P-bass copy I’m pretty happy with. The fender pick guard even fits it almost perfectly. Don’t think a Squier would be a huge upgrade.
Here are some time stamps for those interested: 1:04 Snazzy Intro 2:31 Squier SCPB 2:51 Fender SCPB 3:17 Squier 60s Precision 3:56 Fender MIJ Precision 4:30 Squier 60s Jazz 5:05 Fender Jazz 5:34 Squier Jazz Front Pickup 6:08 Fender Jazz Front Pickup 6:34 Squier Jazz Bridge Pickup 7:07 Fender Jazz Bridge Pickup I was going to denote the slap sections too, but not all examples had slap lines. And yes, I am aware I'm almost 11 years late to the party. Oops.
Mr. Ed greetings from Venezuela, I like the P single-coil, apart from the quality control between the Japanese and the Chinese model, do you consider the sound is identical to that of both, in particular noticed that the Japanese is brighter I hope your answer
This is a really good video. I'm thinking of getting the 60's J bass, and this video helped a lot. Thanks for being thorough and comparing everything back to back.
@podaterra - Jazz or P? I ask because back then, the MIM J's had hum issues with the pickups. They were using two neck pickups that didn't hum cancel. You have to swap them out and rout a bigger hole for a bridge pickup to get rid of it. They changed that around 1999-2000. The P's were fine. Depending on the condition, etc.... I'd probably go with the MIM just because it's older, presumably cheaper, and has been played in.
That's what I always think when I watch these reviews. You can have a "so so" guitar and a great amp will make it shine. You can have a "so so" home stereo receiver, but great speakers will make you forget about the receiver not being so high end. At the end of the day, it's all subjective and what feels right in your hands and to your ear. This however was a great comparison. I like to use headphones to listen for better accuracy in sound.
Hey! sorry to bother, just need a simple opinion: Do you think this classic vibe jazz bass is better sounding than the vintage modified jb? I mean it looks better, but over here in Argentina the CV is like $100 more than the VM, Seems like both have a great tone, but do you think the Classic vibe is worth the extra $100? Thanks again for your great video!
Lol, yeah the colour is pretty ace! I prefer vintage white though :P One more thing: Do you think the Japan stuff (in my case, a 62 Jazz Bass with US pickups) is worth importing and spending a lil more on shipping or should I rather go with the Mexico ones (which we happen to have in Germany, at least..) ??
Hey Ed, I read the review of the CV basses and at the end of the review you stated, "with a few minor changes, these instruments would be indistinguishable from their more expensive counterparts." Just curious as to what those minor changes would be?
I did side by side comparison between a 50's Squier just like the one he starts out with here and a Fender Japanese "Sting" version. The only difference I could tell was that the Sting bass was over $500 higher in price. To me they were identical in every other way: they felt the same, they both sounded the same. The Squier did not feel flimsy or cheap in any way. Sure, maybe the hardware and electronics are a slight step down in quality...but not a $500 step down. I went with the Squier and am about to pull the trigger on a Squier P Bass as well. At the prices they're asking for these you can afford to replace bridges or pickups if you must have a Badass or something and still have money in your pocket. These are a steal in my opinion.
somebody who gets it I was so skeptical about these vintage basses until I tried one in the store. Instead of buying one expensive bass I got 2 vintage basses and got them set up to my liking and still didnt spend as much as buying that one expensive american fender bass great value who cares what the headstock says anyway
+Mike Sor Bass Guitar I have kind of the same story. I was by coincidence in the music store not planning to buy anything. I started palying the Fender Sting version for fun and the noticed the Squier 50's Classic Vibe P bass and after going back and forth for an hour I found there was not much difference, both played and sounded great ...and bought the Buttecotch Squier 50's P bass. Simply a great instrument and the neck plays just like the 1972 maple neck Jazz bass I used to have (and regret selling). :)
I have the precision telecaster bass and I think that it's a nice bass but maybe the components are not so good as they seem "branded new"... The pickup is covered with a cheap plastic piece that, after only 2 years of not-so-hard use, lost the glue and fell off. Even the HUM is very hard because of the bad quality of the single coil. Anyway it sounds great for pick users and to get 50'/60'/70's sounds. A nice rich medium tones that underlines the attack of the pick. Maybe buy it used near 200€ and even buy a new Seymour Duncan single coil pickup bass for 50€ and you'll get the best vintage sound with the lowest price ever.
Probably THE best product comparison video I've ever seen. Excellent editing of the back-and-forth, and you can really hear the differences. While Squier's aren't total junk (currently one one, and a bunch of Laklands) and are fairly well made, they always sound so thin with really harsh and abrasive high end. None of that warm, punchiness the other instruments have, nor any real character.
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Hi there - My husband wants a bass for Christmas. Not sure whether to get him the PB or the JB... Is one easier to play/learn than the other? He plays acoustic guitar - mostly country, rock, blues - and is very musical. He will pick it up quickly. Also, my 14-year-old daughter is interested in playing bass. The slimmer neck on the JB appealed to me...any insights?? Thanks!
Thanks for the response, Ed. One final question. If YOU were going to replace the pickups on the CV Jazz, what would you replace them with (brand, model etc) Thanks.
DutchPs3Gamers wow you cant win an argument without getting personal and using abusive language maybe you should go to the store and give them a go or better yet buy them like I did take them all to a gig/rehearsal and have others tell you they were surprised by how good a "shit" squier bass is. I see you have been like I once was totally brain washed into thinking a nice sounding bass has to cost thousands of dollars (no it does not) have a good day
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Hi, great video! I'd like to ask you a question: How is the weight of the Fender Squier Classic Vibe P-Bass 60' compared to the VM Jazz? Is the P-Bass lighter?
***** but you still get Made in China and inferior woods, slapped together by someone who couldn't care less about how your bass looks or feels under that thick layer of plastic they call a finnish.
Funny, I have 3 atm, two six strings and a bass which I use for gigging. Your description matches none of them, in fact the Simon Neil Strat is very much MIJ like
CE750 My Squire classic vibe precision is natural wood (Butterscotch blond) And the finish, and fit are perfect. I have played a lot of Fender basses and the new Squire is for the money, a great buy. My bass looks and feels great. It's the bass I currently gig with.
Hi from France Ed.Hearing those good squier basses makes me wonder if the difference of price between a Mex made or a highway one us made and a classic vibe is justified...I'd like to buy a P-bass with an authentic sound, would you advise me to buy a classic vibe60's?if I can avoid a waste of money ;)
Hi Ed. I'm thinking of picking up a CV Jazz. In your humble opinion, would this bass record well in stock form? Also, what am I losing by getting a passive bass as opposed to an active one? Thanks and keep the great demos rolling.
There's always a way to beef things up...the way I compensate for having Squier basses is through graphic eq and svt preamp models. Its actually a brilliant way to have an inexpensive aresenal that has a lot of variety and all the life it needs to sit in a full band environment haha
I have a boss GT10B and it has a brilliant simulation of an SVT called "Concert 810" and I could even select to simulate anywhere between 1x15" to 8x10" cabs and get all the tube flavor I need even through my solid state Fender Rumble 350. However if you're looking for something more affordable, Zoom makes the MS60B which has an amazing SVT preamp model and many many more effects in a single stompbox that performs 32 bit/44.1hz quality sound processing at only $100...best deal I've ever heard of!!
Oh the sansamp technology is definitely a game changer!! I think the price in comparison to real ampegs is what makes it sound better LOL and I mean "hugeness" can always be accomplished somehow cause with my amp sim. plus a compressor and some graphic eq my fender (also a 2x10 combo) sounds huge and I don't ever turn the master volume past 9 o clock at a live show lol
@BassGuitarMag Hello Ed, I finally got me the P-50's bass (After 3 years of coveting). I fell in love with the stock pickup and I had already bought the Seymour Duncan 1/4 Pounder, however I'vre read a lot on TalkBass that the difference between Stock/QP is not really that noticeable. Do you have any recommendations? I'd like to increase the low end without sacrificing the high end and high-mids (I've never really gone after the "vintage sound") Thank you so much
Too many variables not accounted for. Brand of string, type of string, gauge, etc. Any of these could account for the slight differences apparent. Not to mention set up, string height, pickup height etc.
absolutely! Would be fun to see a comparison video, all things fully matched. Strings, set up, and exact same riffs. That said, this video may have pretty well matched instrument settings for all I know.
Even if the strings were newer on the Squires, who knows, it still shows they can easily hold it's own against the Fender if you set them up right. I used to be a Fender snob but after buying a squire Mascis jazzmaster guitar last year I found a new respect for them. Some of the Squire's are very good and one of these precisions might just be my next bass.
I'm looking for a bass, because I'm going to play bass guitar. I think this is a great one! I like the Vintage Modified as well, but I prefer the tone of the Classic above the Vintage I've never played bass before. Is this a good choise?
I notice in a lot of threads like this people write statements that even though the American made product sounds better it is not worth the cost difference. I disagree with this philosophy! It cost a significant amount of money to make a product that sounds "only" slightly better. It's not just a pickup change that makes a difference, but better hardware, human hands-on workmanship (screw the assembly-line production), including the most important factor; aged-humidity-controlled wood that you are not going to get in a product made overseas. These are the things that make a product that only sounds 3% to 5% better, but man, I know I want that, and I'm willing to pay the extra money for it. I will always sound 3% to 5% better than you, that is, unless, you've practiced more than 3% to 5% more than me? Haha! (I hit the 10,000 hour mark more than 20 years ago) Last two statements are meant in jest! :)
Am I seeing right? Does the Squier '51 P-Bass have a lacqered neck? That's awesome in this price range. Anyway - those Squiers are surprisingly good, I'd say the P-Bass (the 60s one) sounded even a bit better, livelier than the Fender. Only in the Jazz vs Jazz comparison the Fender is noticeably better, with much nicer midrange (the Squier Jazz tone is more contoured which sounds cool when played solo but doesn't work well in the mix). Overall - all 3 are exceptional value. Worth every penny!
Hey Ed. Would you say the Classic Vibe series surpass the Mexican's? I have a MIM Precision, love it to bits, but I must admit I'm taken by the '60's CV Squier. I'm weighing up whether to trade the Mexican in, and get a CV and maybe throw some pickups in it.
Hi Ed..the CS Jazz sounds like it has a great deal more output and growl than the CV Jazz (as it should be), That said, how would you rate the CV Jazz in terms of tone and output?
Hey Ed. I'm interested in purchasing a Jazz bass but i'm not willing to spend $1400 on an MIA Standard. I was curious which you think is better, soundwise and in build quality, the MIM standard, the Highway One, or the Squier CV. Thanks in advance.
what kind of pickups does the classic vibe precision bass have? fender of squier? and if you could change them, what for? (for a closer REAL fender sound) thank you, great review!
Well, it depends on a few factors - how old is the MIM bass? In the last 4 years or so, and especially the last 2 - they have improved greatly. They were always okay, but they are much better now. And... what kind of condition is the MIM in? It could be trashed, so... take that into consideration. The CV 60s bass is wonderful, but... it's a Squier, so you have to decide how important the name factor is. Head to head, blindfolded, I would doubt ANYONE could tell the difference.
Hey Ed I have a somewhat good question... Which one of the 3 squiers do you consider closer to the fenders? I mean I noticed the 50's P being really really close to the reissue , and well I wanted to know from someone who has A/B them Thanks in advance
HI I was very glad to find your video as I'm currently seeking to buy another bass guitar, but here is my probleme : I currently owned an hofner icon bass and i would like to sell it and buy one of those classic vibe, I prefere play with a pick instead of using my finger, and i'm keen on paul mccartney way of playing. According to you what classic vibe bass should i buy?
Which is the best one for reggae? I like a very deep smooth clean tone with no treble, upper mid or clank. I use GHS flatwound strings and I want lightweight and smooth action. My tone is like any 1970s JA track, (Lee Perry, King Tubby etc.)
Great Video! I am looking for a backup bass (I have a fender MIM J Bass). In your opinion would I be better off with a Squire Bass or similarly priced Ibanez?
Thanks Ed. I now have a CV 60s P-bass, I was about to change the pickups (ands pots) to Dimarzio Split-P. I'm expecting a "growler" sound. Now, before I do something I might regret, is this an experience I should avoid? Thank you.
I'm thinking about buying one of those '51 P-basses and exchanging the stock pickup for a Firebird-style pickup. I'm also considering putting a new bridge on the thing. Aside from the re-routing issues, would this be easy?
I'm trying deciding on what new bass to buy and I'm choosing between a Yamaha and a Squier can you guys tell me which brand gives a better quality bass?
Hi Mr. Bass Whisperer! I have a question about the 500k pots, how can i know what kind of pots have my bass? I have an MTD Kingston 5 with SD preamp and pickup and i am missing a litlle of bright in the firsts strings (i am using 040-130 Dean Markley). Thanks Bassmaster!
hey man, I really like those tele looking p basses, and I have noticed that they're kinda hard to find now, but I was wondering if these classic vibe 50's p's are more versatile than the fender anniversary reissue, squier vintage modified tele, or fender signature models(like mike dirnt and sting)? people take one look and say"one pickup-no versatility: dont buy it" is that true?
I'd be curious to see if you find the 62 RI pickup a little quieter. They tend to make the 60s J pickups "period correct" which means, lower output. The newer pickups are a little hotter.
Great video.. How do you think about the Squier Vintage modified P-bass to think that the body is made by Agathis wood.. which one is better between the classic vibe & Vintage modified P-bass..?? thx
I find that the difference between the squier basses and the vintage fender are not only the sound but rather the feel you get when take them in your hands and play them. I find it's not easily showing in a video but obvious when actually grab the instrument in your hands. I've tried A LOT of P-Basses in stores, Fender or Squiers and was never satisfied. Until I finally got to lay my hands on a genuine fender 1972. NOW I get it... :)
Hey Ed, I have a question for ya! I currently have a Geddy Lee Jazz bass, very good Japanese bass. If I was to buy a 60s squier classic vibe, what parts would need to be changed out to keep the pots and all from coming apart?
Thanks Ed for your great review. I bought a Classic Vibe 60s P-Bass and your video had great value to me. I was wondering if I bought original p-bass fender pickups (50$) it would be worth it?
Would the Squier Classic Vibe Precision Bass '60s Guitar they have out now in Fiesta Red be along the same lines as the 60's in this video? I've been looking at reviews and they all seem to be good.
Besides the cosmetic factor, maple boards contribute to a brighter sound, while rosewood is a bit mellower. You can hear the difference is you A/B them, but other factors like the type of string you use and your amp settings have a more pronounced effect.
@BassGuitarMag Hi again, Ed. Are the Norstrand J4's "relatively" noiseless? I'm asking because I'd like to be able to record the bass as well as use it live. Thanks.
I'm thinking about trading in my Dean Edge 09 for a Squier Classic Vibe bass, but I don't know which to get? Would a p-bass be better at rock and alternative playing than a j-bass?
Another great review, Mr. Friedland! I am consistently amazed by the fact that it is no longer necessary to spend thousands of dollars to get a great bass sound! This video as well as the G&L Tribute video have definately convinced me. Thank you once again! John
Great video Ed! I have a question regarding your amp - it appears to be a Genz-Benz shuttle. If it is, could you please give some pros and cons regarding it, perhaps compared to an SWR WorkingPro if you have any experience with those. Thanks!
I have a rogue and a squier. Squier is definitely better. Not sure about the model. Tryin to learn and start slap bass, as I'm not really accustomed to it since I'm more used to jazz as well as rock. Any tips would be appreciated
Hey Ed! I'm buying a fender standard Jazz Bass and i'm wondering what's the diference in basses that are made in Japan, Mexico and USA. BTW nice video. You're good! Greetings!
I have had the Squier CV Jazz bass for over 10 years since I first bought it. To get a better tone for it, I just replace the stock pickups with Dimarzio's and it sounded a lot better. It still plays great.
Well, I didn't measure the pickup and string height, but the setup was pretty close on all of them. In some cases, like my 88 Japanese P bass, the strings were very old. I didn't want to change them for the review - so that is a noticeable difference. The main point was to illustrate how well the Squiers compare. Glad you liked it.
I personally liked the Squier tones more for all examples except the Jazz. That Fender Jazz sounded beautiful.
I think that Squier Jazz sounded pretty good too. It's just that the Fender Jazz had AMAZING tone.
BigNickel Its funny, I thought the Squier Jazz was the standout of that make, had a little more blowsy character, while the Fender was tighter and has more definition (probably more suited to live context eh) :)
I didn't mean to take away from the exceptional tones from the Squier Jazz, I just meant the Fender Jazz is nearly unbeatable for for me personally. For the price point of the Squier you can't go wrong at all, they have truly done well with their whole affordable guitar line-up.
Of the three comparisons, to my ear only the jazz basses had a truly distinct sound difference. The Fender edged the Squier....but....it wasn't that far behind.
the squier CV60 jazz bridge pickup is amazing. on par with the fender. but the neck pickup is weaker...
Excellent review, this is how comparisons should be done. Thanks for taking the time Ed!
Simplified its all about the money, yes Fender forever BUT Squier 2012/2013/2014 have the sound and the all around wood to get the bass player right in the center of the music being played, from punk to rock to goth to new age to Jupiter if you want. It is in the fingers, I'm so glad that 90% of the musicians are ignoring the product placement and go for what they feel in their hands Fender or Squier, hey, we love it all .
True. But don't forget there are other Fender copy's then only Squier.
Other copy's like Farida, Vintage and many more are made in the same factory's as the Squiers, are cheaper and just as good or better then the Squiers.
Man, that intro was bizarre, otherwise the best actual review I've ever watched. Thank you.
On the first two models the Squires were right there with the Fenders but the last one, the Jazz the Fender smoked the the Squire.
agreed... the squier precision was especially good
The two first basses are asian, the last one is a CS, just saying!
10 years ago I got the sonic blue P bass for my first bass... BEST DECISION I COULD HAVE EVER MADE
And it could just be the difference in the tone pot and capacitor. And to be fair the American is a custom shop. But I’m still going to save a few hundred more for the American jazz. I’ve got an older Peavey import P-bass copy I’m pretty happy with. The fender pick guard even fits it almost perfectly. Don’t think a Squier would be a huge upgrade.
Here are some time stamps for those interested:
1:04 Snazzy Intro
2:31 Squier SCPB
2:51 Fender SCPB
3:17 Squier 60s Precision
3:56 Fender MIJ Precision
4:30 Squier 60s Jazz
5:05 Fender Jazz
5:34 Squier Jazz Front Pickup
6:08 Fender Jazz Front Pickup
6:34 Squier Jazz Bridge Pickup
7:07 Fender Jazz Bridge Pickup
I was going to denote the slap sections too, but not all examples had slap lines. And yes, I am aware I'm almost 11 years late to the party. Oops.
Thank you, I really appreciate it!
Mr. Ed greetings from Venezuela, I like the P single-coil, apart from the quality control between the Japanese and the Chinese model, do you consider the sound is identical to that of both, in particular noticed that the Japanese is brighter I hope your answer
I've got Mr Friedland's Slap Bass DVD and it's superb. He sure knows his way 'round a Bass guitar.
This is a really good video. I'm thinking of getting the 60's J bass, and this video helped a lot. Thanks for being thorough and comparing everything back to back.
All the Squires had a more saturated sound compared to the Fenders. Of the Squires I liked the 50s-style P the best, the Jazz the least.
@podaterra - Jazz or P? I ask because back then, the MIM J's had hum issues with the pickups. They were using two neck pickups that didn't hum cancel. You have to swap them out and rout a bigger hole for a bridge pickup to get rid of it. They changed that around 1999-2000. The P's were fine. Depending on the condition, etc.... I'd probably go with the MIM just because it's older, presumably cheaper, and has been played in.
That's what I always think when I watch these reviews. You can have a "so so" guitar and a great amp will make it shine. You can have a "so so" home stereo receiver, but great speakers will make you forget about the receiver not being so high end. At the end of the day, it's all subjective and what feels right in your hands and to your ear. This however was a great comparison. I like to use headphones to listen for better accuracy in sound.
Hey! sorry to bother, just need a simple opinion: Do you think this classic vibe jazz bass is better sounding than the vintage modified jb? I mean it looks better, but over here in Argentina the CV is like $100 more than the VM, Seems like both have a great tone, but do you think the Classic vibe is worth the extra $100? Thanks again for your great video!
green custom shop sounds the best
Lol, yeah the colour is pretty ace!
I prefer vintage white though :P
One more thing: Do you think the Japan stuff (in my case, a 62 Jazz Bass with US pickups) is worth importing and spending a lil more on shipping or should I rather go with the Mexico ones (which we happen to have in Germany, at least..) ??
The Precisions are exactly the same, but the Fender Jazz bass has a little bit more of a bright sound than the Squier Jazz Bass.
Hey Ed, I read the review of the CV basses and at the end of the review you stated, "with a few minor changes, these instruments would be indistinguishable from their more expensive counterparts." Just curious as to what those minor changes would be?
I did side by side comparison between a 50's Squier just like the one he starts out with here and a Fender Japanese "Sting" version. The only difference I could tell was that the Sting bass was over $500 higher in price. To me they were identical in every other way: they felt the same, they both sounded the same. The Squier did not feel flimsy or cheap in any way. Sure, maybe the hardware and electronics are a slight step down in quality...but not a $500 step down. I went with the Squier and am about to pull the trigger on a Squier P Bass as well. At the prices they're asking for these you can afford to replace bridges or pickups if you must have a Badass or something and still have money in your pocket. These are a steal in my opinion.
somebody who gets it I was so skeptical about these vintage basses until I tried one in the store. Instead of buying one expensive bass I got 2 vintage basses and got them set up to my liking and still didnt spend as much as buying that one expensive american fender bass great value who cares what the headstock says anyway
Mike Sor Bass Guitar a badass won't fit, the bridge uses a different screw spacing, you would have to drill it out... the stock bridge is fine though.
+Mike Sor Bass Guitar I have kind of the same story. I was by coincidence in the music store not planning to buy anything. I started palying the Fender Sting version for fun and the noticed the Squier 50's Classic Vibe P bass and after going back and forth for an hour I found there was not much difference, both played and sounded great ...and bought the Buttecotch Squier 50's P bass. Simply a great instrument and the neck plays just like the 1972 maple neck Jazz bass I used to have (and regret selling). :)
I have a Squire Jazz Bass ( James Johnson) which I like better than my American Standard Jazz..
I dig the the tone great vid! Which strings were you using? They sound steel rather than nickel too me.
Thanks
I have the precision telecaster bass and I think that it's a nice bass but maybe the components are not so good as they seem "branded new"... The pickup is covered with a cheap plastic piece that, after only 2 years of not-so-hard use, lost the glue and fell off. Even the HUM is very hard because of the bad quality of the single coil.
Anyway it sounds great for pick users and to get 50'/60'/70's sounds. A nice rich medium tones that underlines the attack of the pick. Maybe buy it used near 200€ and even buy a new Seymour Duncan single coil pickup bass for 50€ and you'll get the best vintage sound with the lowest price ever.
Probably THE best product comparison video I've ever seen. Excellent editing of the back-and-forth, and you can really hear the differences. While Squier's aren't total junk (currently one one, and a bunch of Laklands) and are fairly well made, they always sound so thin with really harsh and abrasive high end. None of that warm, punchiness the other instruments have, nor any real character.
I wish that just once, I could hear a bass review with no slapping.. Grating !
i ain't into that slapping either, sounds like scapping a damn pot.
Do your own reviews then, you entitled whiner.
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I like that he showed multiple styles
Hi there - My husband wants a bass for Christmas. Not sure whether to get him the PB or the JB... Is one easier to play/learn than the other? He plays acoustic guitar - mostly country, rock, blues - and is very musical. He will pick it up quickly. Also, my 14-year-old daughter is interested in playing bass. The slimmer neck on the JB appealed to me...any insights?? Thanks!
excellent review.. save money.. buy a CV
Thanks for the response, Ed. One final question. If YOU were going to replace the pickups on the CV Jazz, what would you replace them with (brand, model etc) Thanks.
the Squier Jazz sounds better than the Fender Custom Shop JB
Totally
NO
DutchPs3Gamers actually yes I tried them in the store lol
joe b
well then your taste of bass tones is shit.
DutchPs3Gamers wow you cant win an argument without getting personal and using abusive language maybe you should go to the store and give them a go or better yet buy them like I did take them all to a gig/rehearsal and have others tell you they were surprised by how good a "shit" squier bass is. I see you have been like I once was totally brain washed into thinking a nice sounding bass has to cost thousands of dollars (no it does not) have a good day
What's the difference between the Squier Classic Vibes Jazz Bass 60's and the Squier Vintage Mod. Jazz Bass? Which one is better overall?
Thanks
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Hi, great video! I'd like to ask you a question:
How is the weight of the Fender Squier Classic Vibe P-Bass 60' compared to the VM Jazz? Is the P-Bass lighter?
The Squier Jazz has zero pop compared to the Fender version.
Easily resolved with a pickup change
***** but you still get Made in China and inferior woods, slapped together by someone who couldn't care less about how your bass looks or feels under that thick layer of plastic they call a finnish.
Funny, I have 3 atm, two six strings and a bass which I use for gigging. Your description matches none of them, in fact the Simon Neil Strat is very much MIJ like
CE750 My Squire classic vibe precision is natural wood (Butterscotch blond) And the finish, and fit are perfect. I have played a lot of Fender basses and the new Squire is for the money, a great buy. My bass looks and feels great. It's the bass I currently gig with.
Sounds about right Terry, think people are still suffering from decal snobbery
Hi from France Ed.Hearing those good squier basses makes me wonder if the difference of price between a Mex made or a highway one us made and a classic vibe is justified...I'd like to buy a P-bass with an authentic sound, would you advise me to buy a classic vibe60's?if I can avoid a waste of money ;)
Squier
Hi Ed. I'm thinking of picking up a CV Jazz. In your humble opinion, would this bass record well in stock form? Also, what am I losing by getting a passive bass as opposed to an active one? Thanks and keep the great demos rolling.
The squire jazz, sounds dead to me.
There's always a way to beef things up...the way I compensate for having Squier basses is through graphic eq and svt preamp models. Its actually a brilliant way to have an inexpensive aresenal that has a lot of variety and all the life it needs to sit in a full band environment haha
I have a boss GT10B and it has a brilliant simulation of an SVT called "Concert 810" and I could even select to simulate anywhere between 1x15" to 8x10" cabs and get all the tube flavor I need even through my solid state Fender Rumble 350. However if you're looking for something more affordable, Zoom makes the MS60B which has an amazing SVT preamp model and many many more effects in a single stompbox that performs 32 bit/44.1hz quality sound processing at only $100...best deal I've ever heard of!!
Oh the sansamp technology is definitely a game changer!! I think the price in comparison to real ampegs is what makes it sound better LOL and I mean "hugeness" can always be accomplished somehow cause with my amp sim. plus a compressor and some graphic eq my fender (also a 2x10 combo) sounds huge and I don't ever turn the master volume past 9 o clock at a live show lol
@BassGuitarMag Hello Ed, I finally got me the P-50's bass (After 3 years of coveting). I fell in love with the stock pickup and I had already bought the Seymour Duncan 1/4 Pounder, however I'vre read a lot on TalkBass that the difference between Stock/QP is not really that noticeable. Do you have any recommendations? I'd like to increase the low end without sacrificing the high end and high-mids (I've never really gone after the "vintage sound")
Thank you so much
Too many variables not accounted for. Brand of string, type of string, gauge, etc. Any of these could account for the slight differences apparent. Not to mention set up, string height, pickup height etc.
absolutely! Would be fun to see a comparison video, all things fully matched. Strings, set up, and exact same riffs. That said, this video may have pretty well matched instrument settings for all I know.
Even if the strings were newer on the Squires, who knows, it still shows they can easily hold it's own against the Fender if you set them up right. I used to be a Fender snob but after buying a squire Mascis jazzmaster guitar last year I found a new respect for them. Some of the Squire's are very good and one of these precisions might just be my next bass.
I'm looking for a bass, because I'm going to play bass guitar. I think this is a great one! I like the Vintage Modified as well, but I prefer the tone of the Classic above the Vintage
I've never played bass before. Is this a good choise?
I notice in a lot of threads like this people write statements that even though the American made product sounds better it is not worth the cost difference. I disagree with this philosophy! It cost a significant amount of money to make a product that sounds "only" slightly better. It's not just a pickup change that makes a difference, but better hardware, human hands-on workmanship (screw the assembly-line production), including the most important factor; aged-humidity-controlled wood that you are not going to get in a product made overseas. These are the things that make a product that only sounds 3% to 5% better, but man, I know I want that, and I'm willing to pay the extra money for it. I will always sound 3% to 5% better than you, that is, unless, you've practiced more than 3% to 5% more than me? Haha! (I hit the 10,000 hour mark more than 20 years ago) Last two statements are meant in jest! :)
Am I seeing right? Does the Squier '51 P-Bass have a lacqered neck? That's awesome in this price range. Anyway - those Squiers are surprisingly good, I'd say the P-Bass (the 60s one) sounded even a bit better, livelier than the Fender. Only in the Jazz vs Jazz comparison the Fender is noticeably better, with much nicer midrange (the Squier Jazz tone is more contoured which sounds cool when played solo but doesn't work well in the mix). Overall - all 3 are exceptional value. Worth every penny!
Hey Ed.
Would you say the Classic Vibe series surpass the Mexican's? I have a MIM Precision, love it to bits, but I must admit I'm taken by the '60's CV Squier.
I'm weighing up whether to trade the Mexican in, and get a CV and maybe throw some pickups in it.
Hi Ed..the CS Jazz sounds like it has a great deal more output and growl than the CV Jazz (as it should be), That said, how would you rate the CV Jazz in terms of tone and output?
Hey Ed. I'm interested in purchasing a Jazz bass but i'm not willing to spend $1400 on an MIA Standard. I was curious which you think is better, soundwise and in build quality, the MIM standard, the Highway One, or the Squier CV. Thanks in advance.
what kind of pickups does the classic vibe precision bass have? fender of squier? and if you could change them, what for? (for a closer REAL fender sound) thank you, great review!
Hey Ed, im also considering the Classic Vibe Jazz or the VM Jazz, and i was wondering if you have any idea which has a better "Funk" tone,
Cheers
Well, it depends on a few factors - how old is the MIM bass? In the last 4 years or so, and especially the last 2 - they have improved greatly. They were always okay, but they are much better now. And... what kind of condition is the MIM in? It could be trashed, so... take that into consideration. The CV 60s bass is wonderful, but... it's a Squier, so you have to decide how important the name factor is. Head to head, blindfolded, I would doubt ANYONE could tell the difference.
Hey Ed I have a somewhat good question...
Which one of the 3 squiers do you consider closer to the fenders? I mean I noticed the 50's P being really really close to the reissue , and well I wanted to know from someone who has A/B them
Thanks in advance
may i ask, squier classic vibe jazz bass actually made in which country?it is in indonesia?
HI I was very glad to find your video as I'm currently seeking to buy another bass guitar, but here is my probleme : I currently owned an hofner icon bass and i would like to sell it and buy one of those classic vibe, I prefere play with a pick instead of using my finger, and i'm keen on paul mccartney way of playing.
According to you what classic vibe bass should i buy?
Which is the best one for reggae?
I like a very deep smooth clean tone with no treble, upper mid or clank.
I use GHS flatwound strings and I want lightweight and smooth action.
My tone is like any 1970s JA track, (Lee Perry, King Tubby etc.)
Great Video! I am looking for a backup bass (I have a fender MIM J Bass). In your opinion would I be better off with a Squire Bass or similarly priced Ibanez?
@JosephGallagher - Yes, it will fit. You have to call Nordstrand, I don't think this pickup is listed on their website.
Thanks Ed. I now have a CV 60s P-bass, I was about to change the pickups (ands pots) to Dimarzio Split-P. I'm expecting a "growler" sound. Now, before I do something I might regret, is this an experience I should avoid? Thank you.
I'm a guitarist and wouldn't mind trying my hand at bass do you think that the 60's P-bass from squire would be a good starter bass
@BassGuitarMag ok no problem, which of the 2 would be good for playing punk, metal and hardcore?
I'm thinking about buying one of those '51 P-basses and exchanging the stock pickup for a Firebird-style pickup. I'm also considering putting a new bridge on the thing. Aside from the re-routing issues, would this be easy?
I'm trying deciding on what new bass to buy and I'm choosing between a Yamaha and a Squier can you guys tell me which brand gives a better quality bass?
Hi Mr. Bass Whisperer! I have a question about the 500k pots, how can i know what kind of pots have my bass? I have an MTD Kingston 5 with SD preamp and pickup and i am missing a litlle of bright in the firsts strings (i am using 040-130 Dean Markley).
Thanks Bassmaster!
hey man, I really like those tele looking p basses, and I have noticed that they're kinda hard to find now, but I was wondering if these classic vibe 50's p's are more versatile than the fender anniversary reissue, squier vintage modified tele, or fender signature models(like mike dirnt and sting)? people take one look and say"one pickup-no versatility: dont buy it" is that true?
I'd be curious to see if you find the 62 RI pickup a little quieter. They tend to make the 60s J pickups "period correct" which means, lower output. The newer pickups are a little hotter.
Great video..
How do you think about the Squier Vintage modified P-bass to think that the body is made by Agathis wood..
which one is better between the classic vibe & Vintage modified P-bass..??
thx
I find that the difference between the squier basses and the vintage fender are not only the sound but rather the feel you get when take them in your hands and play them. I find it's not easily showing in a video but obvious when actually grab the instrument in your hands.
I've tried A LOT of P-Basses in stores, Fender or Squiers and was never satisfied. Until I finally got to lay my hands on a genuine fender 1972. NOW I get it... :)
Hey Ed, I have a question for ya! I currently have a Geddy Lee Jazz bass, very good Japanese bass. If I was to buy a 60s squier classic vibe, what parts would need to be changed out to keep the pots and all from coming apart?
Thanks Ed for your great review. I bought a Classic Vibe 60s P-Bass and your video had great value to me. I was wondering if I bought original p-bass fender pickups (50$) it would be worth it?
Which of the 3 bass do you prefer? and why?
I'm undecided between the 50 'and 60' jazz bass.
EXCELENT REVIEW!
Would the Squier Classic Vibe Precision Bass '60s Guitar they have out now in Fiesta Red be along the same lines as the 60's in this video? I've been looking at reviews and they all seem to be good.
Are the strings on the Squire Jazz bass dead or old? The Fender Jazz sounds much more brighter and more mid.
Besides the cosmetic factor, maple boards contribute to a brighter sound, while rosewood is a bit mellower. You can hear the difference is you A/B them, but other factors like the type of string you use and your amp settings have a more pronounced effect.
wow your groove is smooth. i would love the tabs or notes. the sound was very close. is there much difference in the weight of the guitars?
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the squier 1960's precision bass seems brighter than the fender. is that a difference in pickups ?
Ed, what did you think when comparing the squier and fender Jazz Basses (soundwise) ?
@BassGuitarMag Hi again, Ed. Are the Norstrand J4's "relatively" noiseless? I'm asking because I'd like to be able to record the bass as well as use it live. Thanks.
Nice demo thanks. I would like to know if you feel a difference between the Fender vrs Squire classic vibe necks. Is one smoother than the other?
I'm thinking about trading in my Dean Edge 09 for a Squier Classic Vibe bass, but I don't know which to get? Would a p-bass be better at rock and alternative playing than a j-bass?
Are you able to remove the thumb rest below the strings on the Squier Jazz Bass? I'm worried it will get in the way when I slap.
Another great review, Mr. Friedland! I am consistently amazed by the fact that it is no longer necessary to spend thousands of dollars to get a great bass sound! This video as well as the G&L Tribute video have definately convinced me. Thank you once again! John
Which of the squiers would be better suited for country and gospel music? (Don't have the cash for fender)
I really like the look of the 50s style p-bass. Would it be a good sounding bass for playing thrash metal?
should i get this bass, or the squier modified jazz bass?
How much does those Squier Jazz Bass weigh,are they using the good light weight stuff ?
Great video Ed! I have a question regarding your amp - it appears to be a Genz-Benz shuttle. If it is, could you please give some pros and cons regarding it, perhaps compared to an SWR WorkingPro if you have any experience with those. Thanks!
I have a rogue and a squier. Squier is definitely better. Not sure about the model.
Tryin to learn and start slap bass, as I'm not really accustomed to it since I'm more used to jazz as well as rock.
Any tips would be appreciated
Great video! You using the same strings on the compared basses?
sorry to bother you but what eq are you using...im trying to see if i need new strings or just a different eq
Hi Ed...
Simple question, Squier Classic Vibe or Fender Standard 1998 MIM?
@TRJBASS Just curious...why do you play flat wound strings? What aspect of that style fits with your playing?
Hello is the Fender Squier classic vibe 60's Jazz bass
good for a beginner?
Alden
do these basses feel the way their fender counter parts do? obviously they wont feel exactly the same, but i was wondering.
What kind of pick-ups would you guys recommend to put on the CV JBass? I was thinking EMGs, but are there better options?
excuse me good sir, But can you do something more on the 50s bass? Those things are beautiful.
Hey Ed!
I'm buying a fender standard Jazz Bass and i'm wondering what's the diference in basses that are made in Japan, Mexico and USA. BTW nice video. You're good!
Greetings!
Have you tried the Seymour's quarter pounders for the P50's? Would it be worth it to swap the ones on the Squier for them?
Ed, how would say the 60's jazz would compare to the 70's vintage modified jazz bass?
Do you think that it it would be a good idea to install emg pick ups to the squier jazz
@MLPARDR I'm aware of that. I own a VM Jazz and I wanted to know if there's a difference between this two basses because the VM Jazz is pretty heavy.
@BassGuitarMag what would you say is better: the 50 or 60 squier p bass? because im thinking of buying one or the other as my next bass
That's all well and good, but which one is best for metal? :D
are you using any pre amps on the basses? or are they connected directly to the amp behind you?
I have had the Squier CV Jazz bass for over 10 years since I first bought it. To get a better tone for it, I just replace the stock pickups with Dimarzio's and it sounded a lot better. It still plays great.