Love these double blind comparisons. I like doing a little bourbon hunting but not paying over retail. You’re honest and I like that. Bacon Old-fashioned 🤔
Oh yeah! If you're ever at a restaurant that does a bacon old-fashioned, buy without hesitation. A well made bacon old fashioned is something else. Thanks so much for watching Chris!
I think EW 1783 is a great bourbon, especially in it's latest version (increase from 86 to 90 proof). It's also supposedly 6-8 years old, and I've heard ETL is allegedly 9 years old. ETL is good, and in the control state of Ohio it's $38 but of course it's lottery only. BT thinks that ETL is worth $38, and they make a profit on it at that price. Anyone that spends $300 on ETL is going to be disappointed when they taste it. In Ohio EW 1783 is $20 for a 750 and $35 for a 1.75 liter. I've tried to steer folks to 1783 but am not usually successful; everyone wants the BT stuff.
@@moobutt Granted it's not perfect, but from my many trips to MI, IN and KY I'd say it's not all peaches and cream elsewhere, either. Sorry to hear about the 30 thing; just looked at the map and I can see your point. Seems like most of the good stuff lands in Columbus, but we see a decent amount in SW Ohio too.
King isn't wrong. People are brand-chasing rather than quality-chasing. The wild part is when someone tastes ETL and *then* say it's worth $300. Hype can do weird things to perception.
Erin & Josh--you are how I fight my whiskey FOMO. THANK YOU! Elmer T Lee is $300 to $500 near me, which is certifiably insane, and figure I will never get to try it, but now I don't care as much. 😅 There are SO MANY great options that are easier to find and waaaay cheaper than ETL prices around here, and this is more proof of the BT hype train being totally off the rails.
I've had several people tell me that EW 1783 was really good, especially for the price. So I picked up a bottle a while back. I haven't opened it yet, but I may have to this weekend :)
I'm all in for 1783! ETL isn't ever on the shelf here in Oregon, but 1783 is always there, ALWAYS, on the bottom shelf. And it's an available, reliably solid quality pour. Plus, the price is really good, but not as low as you and many others have mentioned. (We're a control state.) What's not to like? Thanks, and cheers!
Elmer T Lee was a one and done for me back when it was on the shelf. The new EW1783 90 proof is $15 here and always have it on hand and sometimes blend in a splash of EW BiB 100 proof for a little more oomph!
I like to try pours from hard-to-find bottles when I go out. The day after watching this I went to a bar grand opening and passed on trying Elmer T Lee. Opted for Stagg Jr 17 and Welller 12 and 107 instead.
@@stuffandwhiskey All bottles I would buy at retail lol. I would pay above retail for the Stagg but not the crazy typical secondary prices (starts around $175 here.
If you've ever tried Evan Williams Single Barrel it's a lot like that but with a bit more balance (slightly less oaky profile with more sweetness). We don't think it'll fool anybody into thinking it's a $40-50 bottle but for $13 it's hard to beat for a 90 proof easy sipper with that classic, dark Kentucky bourbon profile.
We definitely have one or two in the back catalog (most notably against EH Taylor Small Batch which we're due to put back into the sample pool for a rematch) and we have one coming up with WT101's old paper label vs the new bottling to see if there any any batch variances (it's been filmed and will release in the near future). We also have 101 in some other matchups that have yet to pop up. Big 101 fans here!
Love this comment so much. Reinforcing our theory that many of these hyped up Buffalo Trace products would collect dust if shelves were fully stocked at all times. There's hype and FOMO because people want what they can't have--not because the whiskey is any better than anything else.
Love the video. Y'all are the best. I always wondered whats on your sheet when you do your tasting discussions. Looks elaborate. Is that something you can share (if not I totally understand). Right now my testing notes are on a spiral notebook and it's just a mess. Either way keep up the great work. As real as it gets with you two.
Thanks so much Matthew. We appreciate you watching! We actually make our scoring rubric available for download over on Patreon in the Whiskey Nerd tier but it's not nearly as complicated as it looks--it's a template we built that has all the categories we score with 0, 0.5, 1, and 2 point markings for each category that we can easily circle to keep track of our scoring (and to make sure we don't forget a category while we're filming). Then we scribble notes all over it and it turns into a hot mess as well. 😂
I remember trying the 1783 after HH tweaked it. When I smelled it I thought God that is familiar, then it hit me. Elijah Craig, just a little less complex. If someone told me I could never have EC again, 1783 and EW BiB would fill the gap, lol
It really is the perfect bridge between Evan Williams BiB and Elijah Craig, and being cheaper than both makes it a no-brainer if someone is a fan of the Heaven Hill profile.
You get us. Tasting blind is our favorite and we're always glad when folks enjoy watching how the blinds shake out. We appreciate you tuning in Rhysently!
Been a black-label EW fan for years for the flavor/cost compromise. Then I had to buy a BIB lately and fell in love, except for the cost, of course. I'm a cheap (drunk), so the 1783 looks like a great compromise, though I can't recollect seeing it before in my market (Vegas). . Remains to be seen if it pays off for me. "Does it come in the economy 3-liter six-pack..?!"
We've heard Vegas prices are pretty wild as far as bourbon markup goes. It would be interesting to hear what it sells for there. Cheers and thanks for watching Harry!
Catching up on older episodes that I missed. Great review. Nothing like a blind to take predisposed opinions out of the occasion. I just saw Evan Williams for $17.49 per bottle, so I had to pick one up.
Just scored an EMTL from my local grocery store. Bought it in a wine and whiskey gift set, so i ended up paying retail after evening out cost. I wont be on the look for it again. Very underwhelming
Thanks for subscribing, Randy, and great question! Now that you mention it we definitely need to get some Uncle Nearest products in our blinds. The whiskey is solid but our biggest appreciation for the brand comes from the history behind the name and the force that is Fawn Weaver at the helm. We love what she's doing with the company. We'd also love to get our hands on a bottle of 1820.
We can definitely see that! Josh responding here but Erin definitely gets that funky flavor on the finish of quite a few of the Stagg Jr batches that she finds to be downright off-putting. You're not alone in that Ceezer.
Nice video. The old 86 proof version of 1783 was the first bourbon I ever tried that made me think there might be something there for a long-time malt whisky fan like me to enjoy. I prefer the EW BiB to the new 1783, but I'm still a big Evan Williams fan, and a fan of Heaven Hill, in general. As to ETL, I've never tried it and doubt I ever will. I don't chase hyped-up, allocated bourbons. No FOMO here.
On average I think prices are 5 to 10 dollars higher than what your paying. Selection is average at best. And I've only seen one store that as had store picks. We also do not have Total Wine stores in NY state. PS: Bought Sagamore Spirits Double Oak Rye based on Erin's review. It was 60 bucks. Very good choice.@@stuffandwhiskey
We're with you there. Evan Williams BiB is solid, and the extra proof is nice, but it's definitely pushing into the "too nutty" territory. The 90 proof 1783 offering seems much more balanced and well crafted at least to our palates.
@@stuffandwhiskey I love nutty! bib just has too much grain and corn early in the bottle. after it opens up that goes way. toward the last quarter more chocolate comes out. it's still a heavyweight
I've never seen ETL on the shelf and apparently I'm not missing anything. The way you guys describe it sounds like it's something I wouldn't prefer. I really like EW single barrel but finding it is hit and miss and this is where 1783 comes in. 1783 is literally everywhere, it's almost half the price of the single barrel, and it's just a good 90 proof pour. Odd thing is I've tried EW BiB and didn't like it. If I see Buffalo Trace in the store at retail price ($26) I'll pick it up but I doubt I'll ever buy another BT product, certainly not hunting them.
Some fantastic points there Jeffrey. We're big fans of Evan Williams SiB as well, but with the bump to 90 proof on 1783 coupled with the lower price tag and massive availability, we don't find ourselves looking for the single barrels much anymore.
Never had elmer but based on everything ive heard, pretty ok with that. Everybody says its just kinda basic bourbon with not much of note. Also im a candy bar over fruity candy guy every time.
@@yourdrinkingbuddy most of the ones ive seen have been very positive. I know minnick panned the standard bonded but i dont trust his opinion even slightly.
A lot of buffalo trace is just really over hyped. I just opened my very first stagg Jr last night. I'm on my 2nd night drinking a pour. This bourbon is a little too candy sweet for me. I'd rather have several other pours at this proof point. This is good, but for the hype, I expected it to blow away other bottles I can buy for 60-80 bucks. Glad I was lucky to buy at retail.
Well said, Jacob. Stagg Jr is one of our favorite examples (Josh likes it a lot, Erin not so much) because it's just barrel proof 8-10 year Kentucky bourbon. There is a LOT of that on the market, and Buffalo Trace isn't doing anything special. To use beef as an example, it's not like Buffalo Trace is turning out wagyu filet mignon steaks while all the other distilleries are making bargain basement ground chuck hamburger meat. 8-10 year bourbon is 8-10 year bourbon despite what the hype train would have folks believe. We're happy to play a small part is actually showing that through blind tastings here and we appreciate you watching!
That's so wild. It's not only any allocation lists you wouldn't think, so are distributors just now ordering it in because they feel like it won't sell? That's a fair concern.
@@stuffandwhiskey That makes sense. I don't have any Lamy, but my go to budget fountain pen is the Pilot Metropolitan. I have a fine nib, medium, and stub nib. All black for me, and Joyce has a teal one (her go to color for everything).
We don't typically include blends in our head-to-head matchups, *but* if you can grab some Ancient Age 90 and some Buffalo Trace, and you blend them, it's pretty much a dead ringer for the Elmer T Lee profile at a fraction of the price and hassle.
I don’t care specifically about how much a bottle costs, per se. I tend to look more at the value. So, an absolute favorite, is worth $100 to me. A decent quality whiskey is not worth $50+ when I know I can get Knob Creek, Rare Breed or OGD 114 for less..
A man after our own heart. Value is perhaps the single biggest factor in all our reviews, and everything we cover is always weighed against what else is out there on the market for a comparable price. Cheers to high quality, high value pours!
Appreciate you watching and commenting, Erica! It's good for people to know that ETL isn't everyone's cup of tea before FOMO gets to them and they go spend $300 on a bottle.
That's a fantastic question that we're still trying to figure out through blinds. We've yet to come up with an answer beyond "hype and FOMO." People want what they can't have, but we're pretty sure if shelves were flush with these products they'd sit and collect dust.
There used to be pink Runts candies in the shape of a heart, and they were the artificial strawberry flavor. There is still that same flavor, but circa 2007-2009 they made the color red. I still call them the pink Runts because that’s the color that I know that flavor as.
1783 is a nice pour! I like a tiny amount to prep my pallet before having a higher proof drink! 15 bucks here and ET Lee 400 to 500
grabbed a early times and 1783 this week, i love 90-100 proofers for quick sips after work or just to relax with.
Love these double blind comparisons. I like doing a little bourbon hunting but not paying over retail. You’re honest and I like that. Bacon Old-fashioned 🤔
Oh yeah! If you're ever at a restaurant that does a bacon old-fashioned, buy without hesitation. A well made bacon old fashioned is something else. Thanks so much for watching Chris!
I think EW 1783 is a great bourbon, especially in it's latest version (increase from 86 to 90 proof). It's also supposedly 6-8 years old, and I've heard ETL is allegedly 9 years old. ETL is good, and in the control state of Ohio it's $38 but of course it's lottery only. BT thinks that ETL is worth $38, and they make a profit on it at that price. Anyone that spends $300 on ETL is going to be disappointed when they taste it. In Ohio EW 1783 is $20 for a 750 and $35 for a 1.75 liter. I've tried to steer folks to 1783 but am not usually successful; everyone wants the BT stuff.
Its all about the glass the juice comes in. No one cares about chasing good juice. They are looking for what a bottle says on their shelf.
Ohio’s liquor distribution is a damn joke. Every city on 30 gets NOTHING
@@moobutt Granted it's not perfect, but from my many trips to MI, IN and KY I'd say it's not all peaches and cream elsewhere, either. Sorry to hear about the 30 thing; just looked at the map and I can see your point. Seems like most of the good stuff lands in Columbus, but we see a decent amount in SW Ohio too.
King isn't wrong. People are brand-chasing rather than quality-chasing. The wild part is when someone tastes ETL and *then* say it's worth $300. Hype can do weird things to perception.
@@stuffandwhiskey this episode was a perfect display of why we shouldnt chase these cheaper allocations & look on the shelf. Cheers 🥃❕
Erin & Josh--you are how I fight my whiskey FOMO. THANK YOU!
Elmer T Lee is $300 to $500 near me, which is certifiably insane, and figure I will never get to try it, but now I don't care as much. 😅
There are SO MANY great options that are easier to find and waaaay cheaper than ETL prices around here, and this is more proof of the BT hype train being totally off the rails.
We're happy to help fight against the hype train, most specifically when it isn't warranted. Cheers and thanks so much for watching Chris!
I've had several people tell me that EW 1783 was really good, especially for the price. So I picked up a bottle a while back. I haven't opened it yet, but I may have to this weekend :)
Cheers to that GC! We don't think it'll fool anyone into thinking it's a $40-50+ bottle but for the money it's incredibly solid value in our eyes.
"To Write Love On Her Arms" - Wow! I haven't heard about that in well over a decade! Glad they're still out there doing good work.
Love Josh's evil laugh! Good honest comparison, blinds for the win again!
Mwahahaha! Thanks so much, Timm. Happy 4th to you and yours!
I'm all in for 1783! ETL isn't ever on the shelf here in Oregon, but 1783 is always there, ALWAYS, on the bottom shelf. And it's an available, reliably solid quality pour. Plus, the price is really good, but not as low as you and many others have mentioned. (We're a control state.) What's not to like?
Thanks, and cheers!
Thanks for watching, John! Cheers!
Elmer T Lee was a one and done for me back when it was on the shelf. The new EW1783 90 proof is $15 here and always have it on hand and sometimes blend in a splash of EW BiB 100 proof for a little more oomph!
Oooooo we like that idea of a little blending to give 1783 some more punch!
I agree candy bars
I like to try pours from hard-to-find bottles when I go out. The day after watching this I went to a bar grand opening and passed on trying Elmer T Lee. Opted for Stagg Jr 17 and Welller 12 and 107 instead.
Nice finds! Not everyday you run across those three pours. What did you think about them?
@@stuffandwhiskey All bottles I would buy at retail lol. I would pay above retail for the Stagg but not the crazy typical secondary prices (starts around $175 here.
Need to do a blind Elmer T versus Ancient Age
Oh it's happening! We've done it single blind before and it's an interesting matchup for sure.
I’ve had a lot of bourbon, but never the EW 1783 - guess it’s time to get a bottle!
If you've ever tried Evan Williams Single Barrel it's a lot like that but with a bit more balance (slightly less oaky profile with more sweetness). We don't think it'll fool anybody into thinking it's a $40-50 bottle but for $13 it's hard to beat for a 90 proof easy sipper with that classic, dark Kentucky bourbon profile.
Perfect example of why blind tastings are awesome... !!
Cheers to that Bill! We're biased but blinds are the best!
Great matchup again! 1783 is a tremendous value. I can't get my hands on ETL - have never seen a bottle.
Tremendous value is spot on. Cheers Jason!
Have you guys done any WT 101 blinds?
We definitely have one or two in the back catalog (most notably against EH Taylor Small Batch which we're due to put back into the sample pool for a rematch) and we have one coming up with WT101's old paper label vs the new bottling to see if there any any batch variances (it's been filmed and will release in the near future). We also have 101 in some other matchups that have yet to pop up. Big 101 fans here!
Had ETL at a friend’s house and I wasn’t overly impressed. Haven’t tried the 1783 yet. Go Buckeyes!
O-H!
The last bottle of ETL i bought 7 years ago was $25.99. i didnt enjoy it much & never bought another one... could have had cases if i wanted it, LOL
Love this comment so much. Reinforcing our theory that many of these hyped up Buffalo Trace products would collect dust if shelves were fully stocked at all times. There's hype and FOMO because people want what they can't have--not because the whiskey is any better than anything else.
Love the video. Y'all are the best.
I always wondered whats on your sheet when you do your tasting discussions. Looks elaborate. Is that something you can share (if not I totally understand). Right now my testing notes are on a spiral notebook and it's just a mess.
Either way keep up the great work. As real as it gets with you two.
Thanks so much Matthew. We appreciate you watching! We actually make our scoring rubric available for download over on Patreon in the Whiskey Nerd tier but it's not nearly as complicated as it looks--it's a template we built that has all the categories we score with 0, 0.5, 1, and 2 point markings for each category that we can easily circle to keep track of our scoring (and to make sure we don't forget a category while we're filming). Then we scribble notes all over it and it turns into a hot mess as well. 😂
Fantastic. 1783 has been one of my go to bourbons for a while. Great for the money. It's my favorite EW product!
Short of some wild stuff like the distillery-only 12 year, we might be right there with you Matt. Especially when you consider the value. Cheers!
1783 is my favorite bourbon under 25 and even better than lots over 40. I taste a little black cherry
great comparison. at the mad 200-300$ , no FOMO regardless for Lee.
$300 a bottle is cheap for Elmer T. Lee. The 90th birthday Elmer T Lee will set you back a cool ten grand.
Insanity!
I have had ETL a few times and never been too impressed either. Now I will go buy a bottle of EW 1783. thanks cheers
You talk about price and availability in your locak market, but what is yourlocak market. Even just the state would be helpful.
Good catch, Jim! We mention Nashville so frequently that we sometimes forget to include it in all our videos. Nashville, TN is where we’re at.
Love EV 1783 as well as the EV single barrel 👍🥃🇨🇦
My 2 favorite EW products
$300 for a $43 bottle of whiskey... Makes zero sense. The fact that you said they both taste like $30 whiskeys impressed me quite a bit.
It's wild what hype will do to perception, ain't it? We still can't believe it when we see Elmer both listed *and* selling for $300.
I remember trying the 1783 after HH tweaked it. When I smelled it I thought God that is familiar, then it hit me. Elijah Craig, just a little less complex. If someone told me I could never have EC again, 1783 and EW BiB would fill the gap, lol
It really is the perfect bridge between Evan Williams BiB and Elijah Craig, and being cheaper than both makes it a no-brainer if someone is a fan of the Heaven Hill profile.
Thanks for another great video guys 👍
Thank you for watching! Cheers Jake!
Choosing Sweetarts over Baby Ruth? Heresy!
Yeah baby ruth all the way
Great video. Blind tastings are SO FUN, to do and to watch.
You get us. Tasting blind is our favorite and we're always glad when folks enjoy watching how the blinds shake out. We appreciate you tuning in Rhysently!
Just bought some EW 1783 today. Can’t wait to give it a try. Thanks for this video 👍👍
IO!
Been a black-label EW fan for years for the flavor/cost compromise. Then I had to buy a BIB lately and fell in love, except for the cost, of course. I'm a cheap (drunk), so the 1783 looks like a great compromise, though I can't recollect seeing it before in my market (Vegas). . Remains to be seen if it pays off for me. "Does it come in the economy 3-liter six-pack..?!"
We've heard Vegas prices are pretty wild as far as bourbon markup goes. It would be interesting to hear what it sells for there. Cheers and thanks for watching Harry!
It's really sad that Elmer T Lee is $400 here in Georgia and people actually think it's worth that.
It boggles the mind. Hype can do strange things to perception.
Catching up on older episodes that I missed. Great review. Nothing like a blind to take predisposed opinions out of the occasion. I just saw Evan Williams for $17.49 per bottle, so I had to pick one up.
It’s a solid budget easy sipper!
Just scored an EMTL from my local grocery store. Bought it in a wine and whiskey gift set, so i ended up paying retail after evening out cost. I wont be on the look for it again. Very underwhelming
Hi Erin and Josh! I'm a new subscriber so forgive me if you already covered this, but what are your thoughts on Uncle Nearest?
Thanks for subscribing, Randy, and great question! Now that you mention it we definitely need to get some Uncle Nearest products in our blinds. The whiskey is solid but our biggest appreciation for the brand comes from the history behind the name and the force that is Fawn Weaver at the helm. We love what she's doing with the company. We'd also love to get our hands on a bottle of 1820.
@@stuffandwhiskeyThe 1820 is the only one I haven't tried yet. So far my favorite is the 1884, but I would love to hear what you guys think. Cheers!
I've not had ETL but I get that aspartame note on Stagg Jr and, to me, it's overwhelming and unenjoyable...
We can definitely see that! Josh responding here but Erin definitely gets that funky flavor on the finish of quite a few of the Stagg Jr batches that she finds to be downright off-putting. You're not alone in that Ceezer.
Really enjoy 1783! Have never seen ETL in Florida.
Nice video. The old 86 proof version of 1783 was the first bourbon I ever tried that made me think there might be something there for a long-time malt whisky fan like me to enjoy. I prefer the EW BiB to the new 1783, but I'm still a big Evan Williams fan, and a fan of Heaven Hill, in general. As to ETL, I've never tried it and doubt I ever will. I don't chase hyped-up, allocated bourbons. No FOMO here.
Here here to no FOMO! Cheers Carlo and we appreciate the heck out of you watching!
Nice review.
Evan Williams 1783 in Buffalo NY is $25.And there are no Buffalo Trace products in any of the 6 stores I shop.
Oh wow! That's by far the highest we've heard of 1783 ever being priced at. Are most of the stores in Buffalo pretty high on the majority of products?
On average I think prices are 5 to 10 dollars higher than what your paying. Selection is average at best. And I've only seen one store that as had store picks. We also do not have Total Wine stores in NY state. PS: Bought Sagamore Spirits Double Oak Rye based on Erin's review. It was 60 bucks. Very good choice.@@stuffandwhiskey
I’m with Erin on this one. College football is better than pro football!!!
1783 is a powerhouse. you just get so much for $20. it's replaced ew bib as a daily. the old 1783 was terrible too
We're with you there. Evan Williams BiB is solid, and the extra proof is nice, but it's definitely pushing into the "too nutty" territory. The 90 proof 1783 offering seems much more balanced and well crafted at least to our palates.
@@stuffandwhiskey I love nutty! bib just has too much grain and corn early in the bottle. after it opens up that goes way. toward the last quarter more chocolate comes out. it's still a heavyweight
I-O!!
I've never seen ETL on the shelf and apparently I'm not missing anything. The way you guys describe it sounds like it's something I wouldn't prefer. I really like EW single barrel but finding it is hit and miss and this is where 1783 comes in. 1783 is literally everywhere, it's almost half the price of the single barrel, and it's just a good 90 proof pour. Odd thing is I've tried EW BiB and didn't like it. If I see Buffalo Trace in the store at retail price ($26) I'll pick it up but I doubt I'll ever buy another BT product, certainly not hunting them.
Some fantastic points there Jeffrey. We're big fans of Evan Williams SiB as well, but with the bump to 90 proof on 1783 coupled with the lower price tag and massive availability, we don't find ourselves looking for the single barrels much anymore.
Great double blind guys. I enjoyed this very much. Went out and bought an EW 1783 to try. $19.99 here in PA.
Glad you enjoyed, Mike. This was a fun one! Thanks for watching!
Never had elmer but based on everything ive heard, pretty ok with that. Everybody says its just kinda basic bourbon with not much of note. Also im a candy bar over fruity candy guy every time.
I agree. Same here, but lately I have loved that banana candy on the JD lineup.
@@yourdrinkingbuddy honestly im digging the new bondeds
@@LeatherDaddy97 I have seen several reviews where they trash them. I think they are great!
@@yourdrinkingbuddy most of the ones ive seen have been very positive. I know minnick panned the standard bonded but i dont trust his opinion even slightly.
Lol that is fair.
A lot of buffalo trace is just really over hyped. I just opened my very first stagg Jr last night. I'm on my 2nd night drinking a pour. This bourbon is a little too candy sweet for me. I'd rather have several other pours at this proof point. This is good, but for the hype, I expected it to blow away other bottles I can buy for 60-80 bucks. Glad I was lucky to buy at retail.
Well said, Jacob. Stagg Jr is one of our favorite examples (Josh likes it a lot, Erin not so much) because it's just barrel proof 8-10 year Kentucky bourbon. There is a LOT of that on the market, and Buffalo Trace isn't doing anything special. To use beef as an example, it's not like Buffalo Trace is turning out wagyu filet mignon steaks while all the other distilleries are making bargain basement ground chuck hamburger meat. 8-10 year bourbon is 8-10 year bourbon despite what the hype train would have folks believe. We're happy to play a small part is actually showing that through blind tastings here and we appreciate you watching!
Btw ive still never seen one of the new 1783s here
That's crazy! I see them everywhere.
That's so wild. It's not only any allocation lists you wouldn't think, so are distributors just now ordering it in because they feel like it won't sell? That's a fair concern.
@@stuffandwhiskey couldnt tell you the reason
Oh man, Josh! Are you also a fountain pen nerd? Looks like a Lamy Safari in the end credits.
Great eye! It's a Lamy AL Star but close enough. Big fan of budget/high value fountain pens with Lamy being my favorite!
@@stuffandwhiskey That makes sense. I don't have any Lamy, but my go to budget fountain pen is the Pilot Metropolitan. I have a fine nib, medium, and stub nib. All black for me, and Joyce has a teal one (her go to color for everything).
I really wish I could find a Elmer for under $100. But I really do like Evan Williams stuff.
We don't typically include blends in our head-to-head matchups, *but* if you can grab some Ancient Age 90 and some Buffalo Trace, and you blend them, it's pretty much a dead ringer for the Elmer T Lee profile at a fraction of the price and hassle.
@@stuffandwhiskey good to know I’ll definitely try that.
1783 all day
Availability and cost is important!
I-O!
Blinds > Labels
Amen!
I don’t care specifically about how much a bottle costs, per se. I tend to look more at the value. So, an absolute favorite, is worth $100 to me. A decent quality whiskey is not worth $50+ when I know I can get Knob Creek, Rare Breed or OGD 114 for less..
A man after our own heart. Value is perhaps the single biggest factor in all our reviews, and everything we cover is always weighed against what else is out there on the market for a comparable price. Cheers to high quality, high value pours!
Classic FOMO destroyer.
Haha, you know we love some good FOMO trampling. 😉 Cheers David!
Come on folks, 1210 views and only 182 likes? Smash that like button
Tell 'em Mark! We appreciate you watching and commenting!
lol, OH - NO!
I wasn’t a fan of the Elmer T. Lee when I tried it.
Appreciate you watching and commenting, Erica! It's good for people to know that ETL isn't everyone's cup of tea before FOMO gets to them and they go spend $300 on a bottle.
@@stuffandwhiskey that was the conversation we had while I was trying it and I was very surprised at how bland it tasted to me.
Why does everyone chase BT stuff?
That's a fantastic question that we're still trying to figure out through blinds. We've yet to come up with an answer beyond "hype and FOMO." People want what they can't have, but we're pretty sure if shelves were flush with these products they'd sit and collect dust.
What are pink runts????
Great question! The red hearts taste pink. 😂 It's that artificial strawberry flavor.
There used to be pink Runts candies in the shape of a heart, and they were the artificial strawberry flavor. There is still that same flavor, but circa 2007-2009 they made the color red. I still call them the pink Runts because that’s the color that I know that flavor as.
Oh oh oh, were those the candies candies that were shaped like different fruits? Ewww. I like candy bars!