The other factors are lifespan and support costs to QNAP. The rackmount device is likely to be inservice a lot longer and require support over the lifetime of the product and that has a cost as well. Things like emergency patches to fix errors in code as well as the rackmount is likely one of dozens or hundreds of units that may be in the data center and thus requiring support from QNAP over the lifetime of the product at a high evel of expertise and hardware exchange under warrenty..
The cost difference between a DS-1819+ and the RS1219+ is not justified either. The DS-1819+ has better performance figures than it's rackmount cousin, and it's cheaper by ~$300 (~25%). I can understand if the RS was the same price, but not when I'm going backwards in technology! For a lot of people who are buying this as a consumer, it seems like a poor choice. for the rackmount version, even though it'll look better in the rack!
While your ideas are valid, some people prefer all-in-one and/or plug-and-play solutions that "just work." Warranty services are also important to some people. There are also those that aren't as tech-savvy but understand that backup solutions are important like small businesses and home users.
@@bjh410 True but there is one major issues with this, this company can lock you out of you data for whatever reason. The argument, "it just works" goes away when you have no access to your data. Why and when can this happen? One of the reasons would be If they detect that you use their product commercially, they will lock you out until you pay the licence. Pretty bs move if you ask me. I rather they sue me than lock me out of my data. This kind of lock out could be also used against them in court because it is a ransom, but at the same time they do still hold right to this if you do not pay. It is back and forth. One other reason would be when they cut the support for your product and/or software that you use. So at the end, you do not own anything, they own everything and at the certain level, even your data. This is in my opinion worse than renting a server somewhere. For a private use, this can be enough and at the end of the day, this is a nice gimmick to have when one does not want to build own server solution. But no serious (big?) company will ever use something like QNAP or Synology or anything similar. There is much more to a NAS than people relies.
Metal HDD trays? Are the handles and front of the trays made of metal? No, then they are just as crap as the desktop version. And regarding the PSU, there is just a off the shelf embedded PSU in the rackmount NAS so no extra costs there, and do you see any cooling in the external power adapter for the desktop version? No me neither. So for the rackmount version that is not a design challenge either. So there is no justification for the price difference at all apart from production volume.
He didn't mention at all that Synology comes with a full set of NAS software including many features and a web frontend. This review isn't completely neutral
The software is why I dont like synology and Im building my own. They lock you into their B.S. They can do anything. Lock out your system till you pay them. You dont own it your only renting it.
You really wouldn't want to with the CPU it has. It would make a great storage device for Plex however. My setup at home is an old QNAP with a weak intel atom CPU, and a cheap refurb PC I got off NewEgg for $120 that has a core i5-4570. I just point the Plex "Server" PC to the UNC paths for the movie files. As long as you have at least a gigabit network it works flawlessly.
Synology devices are much more than the hardware. It's not just an empty case to slap drives in. Their software is quite impressive. Especially from a business perspective. I'm an IT manager, and I swapped out my company's $50,0000 backup solution with two of Synology's bigger units (RS18017xs+). I backup VMWare servers, Redhat, Office 365, and our company DropBox. I replicate offsite as well. On top of the hardware costing less than half of the old, our yearly maintenance was also cut by $13,000. Yes these devices here are smaller, but all 64-bit CPU based Synology devices come with their Active Backup for Business software. That's just the tip of the iceberg. They can do a ton more. You should check into them. This youtube channel does a great job of showing those features in other videos.
For businesses where rack space is at a premium, that price difference is justified.
The other factors are lifespan and support costs to QNAP. The rackmount device is likely to be inservice a lot longer and require support over the lifetime of the product and that has a cost as well. Things like emergency patches to fix errors in code as well as the rackmount is likely one of dozens or hundreds of units that may be in the data center and thus requiring support from QNAP over the lifetime of the product at a high evel of expertise and hardware exchange under warrenty..
The cost difference between a DS-1819+ and the RS1219+ is not justified either. The DS-1819+ has better performance figures than it's rackmount cousin, and it's cheaper by ~$300 (~25%). I can understand if the RS was the same price, but not when I'm going backwards in technology! For a lot of people who are buying this as a consumer, it seems like a poor choice. for the rackmount version, even though it'll look better in the rack!
Or you can just build your own server Nas by sourcing parts competitively from the net and running Freenas or Unraid as a OS.
While your ideas are valid, some people prefer all-in-one and/or plug-and-play solutions that "just work." Warranty services are also important to some people. There are also those that aren't as tech-savvy but understand that backup solutions are important like small businesses and home users.
@@bjh410 True but there is one major issues with this, this company can lock you out of you data for whatever reason. The argument, "it just works" goes away when you have no access to your data.
Why and when can this happen?
One of the reasons would be If they detect that you use their product commercially, they will lock you out until you pay the licence. Pretty bs move if you ask me. I rather they sue me than lock me out of my data. This kind of lock out could be also used against them in court because it is a ransom, but at the same time they do still hold right to this if you do not pay. It is back and forth.
One other reason would be when they cut the support for your product and/or software that you use.
So at the end, you do not own anything, they own everything and at the certain level, even your data. This is in my opinion worse than renting a server somewhere.
For a private use, this can be enough and at the end of the day, this is a nice gimmick to have when one does not want to build own server solution.
But no serious (big?) company will ever use something like QNAP or Synology or anything similar.
There is much more to a NAS than people relies.
Mališa Jevremović no
@@thingyee1118 no to what?
I can already guess that you did not understand the majority of the text I wrote.
@@thingyee1118no
Metal HDD trays? Are the handles and front of the trays made of metal? No, then they are just as crap as the desktop version. And regarding the PSU, there is just a off the shelf embedded PSU in the rackmount NAS so no extra costs there, and do you see any cooling in the external power adapter for the desktop version? No me neither. So for the rackmount version that is not a design challenge either. So there is no justification for the price difference at all apart from production volume.
waaiiit. thats not a preamp...
I'm also looking for a 2u rack for my Pod pro HD lol
He didn't mention at all that Synology comes with a full set of NAS software including many features and a web frontend. This review isn't completely neutral
The software is why I dont like synology and Im building my own.
They lock you into their B.S. They can do anything. Lock out your system till you pay them. You dont own it your only renting it.
Can this model be used as a Plex server ?
You really wouldn't want to with the CPU it has. It would make a great storage device for Plex however.
My setup at home is an old QNAP with a weak intel atom CPU, and a cheap refurb PC I got off NewEgg for $120 that has a core i5-4570. I just point the Plex "Server" PC to the UNC paths for the movie files. As long as you have at least a gigabit network it works flawlessly.
It's just a rip off, similar 1u short depth chassis with four hot swappable drive bays is less than $50 in bulk.
Can't wait to slap a few harddrives into an empty case that has no cpu, motherboard, powersupply, RAM, software.......
Synology devices are much more than the hardware. It's not just an empty case to slap drives in. Their software is quite impressive. Especially from a business perspective. I'm an IT manager, and I swapped out my company's $50,0000 backup solution with two of Synology's bigger units (RS18017xs+).
I backup VMWare servers, Redhat, Office 365, and our company DropBox. I replicate offsite as well. On top of the hardware costing less than half of the old, our yearly maintenance was also cut by $13,000.
Yes these devices here are smaller, but all 64-bit CPU based Synology devices come with their Active Backup for Business software.
That's just the tip of the iceberg. They can do a ton more. You should check into them.
This youtube channel does a great job of showing those features in other videos.