The 16 really impressed me, but I still say a 20 is versatile. I had one for a few years and got a Bonham sound to Motown, depending on the gig. Loved it
Seems that it just a matter of how you EQ the sound, everyone sounded great. If you are on a small club its better a smaller one, and a good microphone well equalized!
Let's not forget that you can tune each drum to sound like a lot of things, depending on the kind of muffling, type of head, removing or not the front head. If you muffle a 22 and remove the front head, you can get practically the same punchy attack and smaller sound of the 16. And if you tune low an empty 18 with both heads on you can get a lot of bonham stuff if mic'ed properly. The beauty of drums and how they can be chameleons so easily. Not to mention the room mics and mics close to the beater head which change the vibe/body/attack perception drastically.
Captain kiwi certainly a 16 won't ever sound like a 24. And yes a 24 won't sound like a ring-y floor tom. But, especially when muffled and closed mic'ed (not to mention the inevitable eq'ingof mixing), there's a wide variety of overlaps.
The thing about 24 and 26 inch kick drums is the ability to keep a low fundamental tone while having the batter head tension tighter than on a 22 inch or smaller. This gives a drummer more bounce off the kick drum head making it easier to play faster beats while keeping a low tone.
Each drum has a certain pitch or echo tone. It’s not just tweeting the head. If it was we could all use little drums and change the pitch. Like guitar string gauge
@@alexanderjamieson7971 interesting... one thing is for sure... despite playing drums for years, I know NOTHING after reading these comments... soooo much to learn... an only about a kick drum!!. crazy
Impascetic FinalP me too. I’ve just gone from playing a 16 X 14 kick for 2 and a half years to playing a 20 X 18, and I’m struggling to keep the 20” under control and articulate at lower volumes. The 16 however is perfect for small combo jazz and lugging around university, however it is consistently overpowered in large group situations. Every other jazz drummer I knows plays an 18 and doesn’t seem to have any issues at all lol
Jeroen Simons 20 is my all time favorite, but I love all those sizes. I have been using 18 lately and I must say, it is not limited to jazz and Latin work.
Depends on the drum room. 24s can throw a lot of shit around a room given the standing wave size. 16 or 20's are much easier to control if time is important.
Man, Im on a 24x24 virgin Keller kick and it sounds incredible. But it's a bitch to haul around. And for setting up at home, it's a problem.. gotta move so much stuff around. I wish I'd have ordered a 20 or maybe even an 18 so I could switch back and forth on occasion. My 24 is a beast.. it really moves some air around
For this style 20" sounds the best, I personally use 22x16, sometimes 24x16, pretty boomy with loads of attack. I play heavier styles so bigger kick can get tuned lower, thus gives some room for bass guitar and synth in that kind of mix.
I would still say the 22" is more versatile because in a large venue a 20" would drown out. However I play a 20" are it is punchier than a 22" and it can fit in a small car easier for gigging.
You can’t really play jazz with a 22in but you can’t play rock that well with a 16in or 18in. A 20in has punch and can be tuned high and low for different styles.
though modern kick drums often come with 22x18 (or 18x22 for you US guys), I tend to go for a 20" kick in the meantime. It often has the perfect combination of smack and low end. However, of course it depends on the occasion. Great comparison, guys.
Mike Luke That’s why I’m always confused with sizes the U.S. does the depth than the diameter. I’m so used to it being the other way even though I live in the U.S.!
I like the 18" bass for this tune and with that mic. It sounds tight and well defined. The 22" sounded mushy to me. Good video, must have been quite a lot of work, thanks for your efforts.
0:10 - 16" 0:52 - 18" 1:34 - 20" 2:16 - 22" 2:58 - 24" I did this in anger of yet another person on TH-cam doing a comparison without using even half a braincell, but then I saw that he did everything right in the end of the video. I don't know why he didn't just do it like that the entire time, but at least he provided us with a means to actually compare the different bass drums. Although it was a bit of a pain having to fast forward every time the intro started :)
I have been playing since the late 70's. The first kick I owned was a 24" Ludwig. Since that time I have played primarily a 24" with the occasional 22" in a random kit. However, the 24" is the most versatile drum by far. All of the right depth, punch and boom. All I ever get are complements on how great my drums sound and especially my kick. It doesn't matter what gig you are playing. As a musician, you should know to tune your drums once in a while to get the sound you need for the gig. :)
@fartpooboxohyeah8611 A year later: Woofy, no impact. Not enough bass, and not enough top end. Basketball effect in the mids. Not my cup of kick drum at all.
I think it should also be noted that the *depth/length is crucial in the sound. It would be interesting to hear the difference between 14"-24" depths, on a 16"-26" kicks. That'd be the most ultimate shootout.
Once you stick a mic inside of a drum, it’s mostly beater sound with a slight difference in pitch. Do one with solid reso heads a few feat from the drum, only way to tell the real difference in diameter and depth.
Paul Bolin I hear ya. But the mic in the hole of the bassdrums is not really turned up that loud. The sound you hear comes from the LDC in front of the bass drums.
This is true but shell depth plays a huge part. The deeper the shell the more tone / boom. The shallower the shell the more attack. Look for videos which have the "gig kits" that have no bottom heads and very shallow shells or even those with bottom heads and shallow shells. You'll notice way more attack, and almost no sustain. I play a Tama Hyperdrive kit and the toms are purposefully like this with a lot of attack but still just deep enough for some sustain and good tone. I'm wanting to add a 24 x 16 bass. I want the "THWACK". I like the 22 x 18 bass but it's all booom.
I don’t know why 20 isn’t more popular. It seems to have a good balance of boomy and high end attack. Plus it makes rack tons easier to position than larger drums.
Always loved 20 inch kicks. Get that umph without alot of overtones. Plus I feel it's easier to play. When I jammed with a 24 inch kick I felt I had to rely more on a double kick to do what I can do with 1 foot on a 20 inch kick.
I've bought and renovated a 28 inch bass drum with calf skin heads from the 1930s. I play 30s/40s dance music, so it kind of makes some sense. First time I played it though... was insane. I tuned it up the same way as I tuned my 18" and it was like an exploding cannon shell. I realised later that dance band drummers used to tune their bass drums really high compared to modern drums. It changes the sound , sustain and volume dramatically. (Big diameter tight rather than small diameter very loose). I think there might be a lot going on with tuning, heads, damping, microphone technique etc. that effects the sound, apart from just diameter.
Different woods will produce warmer sounds etc. Also different drum heads and beaters will change the sound. It basically comes down to individual preferences.
Ditto. I like the depth of the 24, but that 16 is so punchy and would work well in a track where you don't want or need sub-bass rumble out of the kick. The 18 is good too though.
I believe that while the 16" does do the job, it's not as low for my tastes. I'd recommend it for jazz drummers. The 18" is a little better, but still not as heavy as I'd like. I'd probably recommend that to a rock drummer. The 20" and 24" are the ones I'm looking for, and they'd really punch in a heavy metal tone.
All of them have a port cut in the front and all have a very high attack for my taste. I have a 26 x 10 inch "shallow but big" without hole. The sound is perfect and it fist on my ramp with other drums so I can slide the set next to the sofa (that is why only 10 inches long). I prefer the "old" soft "boom-boom" sound anyway.
I adapted a marching bass drum to fit my set. Added to tom-tom leg mounts, which attach to the ramp. I have a very unusual set, customized to my needs. Also I use the Vater vintage beater, which adds even more control over the bass drum, I can play it very gently and also very loud. It still has a nice soft sound.
Erik Ziak. I prefer reso heads without holes, too, but have got into some angry fights with sound men at miked up gigs. When I used to play rock gigs regularly I carried two heads, one intact and one with a port. I play jazz now, so am free of the tyrany of sound men who want the kit to sound the way *they* think a kit should sound ;)
I have that same problem regularly. Their job is to capture MY sound. If they can't mike a bass drum without a hole in it then that just shows how good of a sound guy they are :)
I have the same experience, but since I also worked as a sound guy, and I was obsessed with good sound of the drums as I also play them, I know how to mike drums. I told the sound men that I will place the microphones and then went up to him and told him to turn off all the compressors. He did and we made a sound check. He was surprised how good the drums came out.
Thank you so much for this video!!! I’m about to buy a new kit for my apartment but since I don’t have much space I was thinking to buy the 16” one and I think I will!!! It sounds perfect even if it’ll be hard to get used to it since I know use a 22”
I use two 16x20” drums for playing metal live, and a single 16x22” in the studio. 24 has too much rumble for double bass, smaller than 20 has not enough thump. For other applications I could see using different sizes though.
Excellent comparison of the different sized bass drums. You kept the tuning and mic mix consistent. You could distinctly hear the difference in tonality, sustain, and attack. Very clean demonstration...well done! 👍
The 16" and the 18" didn't have enough low end. There wasn't enough thump or thud to the bottom end freqs. The 20" was the first one that actually felt bassy. The 24" was my favourite, but the 22" was also nice.
Great video. Funny, cause I really enjoyed the comments and peoples opinions and rationale of each drum . It all boils down to just that, your opinion. They all sounded good. Have to admit, I’ve played a 16x22 for years, and recently have been playing a 14x18. The punch I get with the little guy has been pretty awesome. Mic’ing and the PA’s sub doesn’t hurt either. At any rate, thanks for putting this video together. 👍🇺🇸
I currently play a 16 x16 Gretch Catalina with 8" 10" and 12 inch toms with a Gretch 12 inch snare and the bass drum is punchy deep and loud. The bass drum is quite heavy more than the 18" Remo I used before. I have used 22 inch bass drums that were lighter.
16 and 20 sound best in this mix. They stay out of the way of the bass guitar and sound really present. 22 gets in the way of the bass. 24 seems like it might be better if it were quieter.
I use a 26" x 14" Ludwig 3 ply maple. I have used 20,22,&24" kicks over the years but NOTHING else gives me the oomph and versatility of my 26". It is much easier to make a big drum sound smaller (tighter head tuning etc) than make a small drum sound bigger. It is PLENTY responsive too, and not what you'd think a big drum is like.
20" sounds best but I hate seeing the drummers knee...it makes it look like a child's kit (to someone who doesn't know drums). 22" also sounds very good, and aesthetically looks much better
While there was a little less low end on the 16, it had noce characteristics that i like. I also liked the 24. In a live situation with mics id like the 16 because you can always add low end to a kick, but adding punch is much harder.
I've been contemplating going w/ the 13", 16" and 24" shell pack, or the 10", 12", 16", 22". I've never played a 24", but would expect it to just crush in a live situation. I thought the 22" sounded the deepest here. I have played a 20" Gretsch USA kick before, and it was awfully deep and packed a super punch. Mic'd up it was just awesome (like every Gretsch USA Custom is) :)
Great comparison! And timely too as I just installed a studio subwoofer in my home studio. I have been doing nothing but studying the low end in general and the interaction of bass and kick in particular. If off now to run this comparison through the monitors! Great job! Thanks!
The way its recorded has a huge impact on the sound allowing for far to many variables for a simple AB test. I really didn't like any if these but that's just my personal preference. If i had to choose it would be the 18 and the 24.
When you listen to them without amplification, bigger bass drums in this size range usually sound better, all else equal. If you're plugging into a PA system, you really only need a trigger and a sound sample, so what does it matter?
I had a 22by18 and it was too boomy kind of subbass effect so I cut it down with a fine cut hand saw to 22by14 for a punchier sound. Bonus result it takes up less space in my storage and car boot, far easier to fit through doorways or carry upstairs for gigs. hopefully there will be gigs in 2020, zero this year.
@@bangdrums Not gonna lie it was scary because you know it's a one shot thing , the crucial thing was to use a big, flat sturdy table,a brand new sharp saw and take time to clamp the saw extra securely in between suitable size hardwood lengths. It was also a good workout for the upper body. A smaller drum would be a lot easier.
I like 24x15 and 16x12 for their tight sound and having that "click" attack. I think they are the easiest to mix also, their sound is more "ready to use". 22x17 also not bad for me, but too much midbass frequencies and I don't like too much this kind of body which will conflict (?) more with the bass and I'll have to fight with it with mixing further. So I think, I'd choose something with range of 20-24 x 14-15. I think the depth or height will affect more on that muddy body of sound which I personally don't want to have. More clear tight attack with "click" and no muddiness. Correct me If I wrong. I'm newbie and trying to build drumset that will fit most of my music preferences (heavy stuff and being pretty versatile for other genres (latin, funk, fusion, etc) at the same time. What things the diameter of bass drum affecting the most?
for Studio, that 18 is dead on, sounds great in the mix, not too boomy and not too thin, its a perfect balance, but if meat is what you want, the 22 and even that 24 sounds good low tuned and a lil high end to bring the head beater tone out!
I happen to look at this video because I'm going to be upgrading a Junior kit to a some-what better kit. I looked at bass drums and there was one that had an 18" X 14" base drum. So, after watching this... I realize the 18" isn't so bad. The bass drum also includes a tom racks, so it's going to be a good kit. Thanx for the vid.
Currently only have a 16 due to life situ but looking for a 20, as it’s nice and versatile. Although 22 makes me think of that classic sound, I’m enjoying the slightly tight sound from the smaller bass drums.
The 16 really impressed me, but I still say a 20 is versatile. I had one for a few years and got a Bonham sound to Motown, depending on the gig. Loved it
16 wasn't so bad
It sounded the best and tight
Seems that it just a matter of how you EQ the sound, everyone sounded great. If you are on a small club its better a smaller one, and a good microphone well equalized!
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0:15 - 16"
0:47 - 18"
1:27 - 20"
2:16 - 22"
2:53 - 24"
Thank you.
@@yosyp5905 np
Let's not forget that you can tune each drum to sound like a lot of things, depending on the kind of muffling, type of head, removing or not the front head. If you muffle a 22 and remove the front head, you can get practically the same punchy attack and smaller sound of the 16. And if you tune low an empty 18 with both heads on you can get a lot of bonham stuff if mic'ed properly. The beauty of drums and how they can be chameleons so easily. Not to mention the room mics and mics close to the beater head which change the vibe/body/attack perception drastically.
to an extent. Its a lot harder to tune a low drum to sound high then vice versa
Captain kiwi certainly a 16 won't ever sound like a 24. And yes a 24 won't sound like a ring-y floor tom. But, especially when muffled and closed mic'ed (not to mention the inevitable eq'ingof mixing), there's a wide variety of overlaps.
The thing about 24 and 26 inch kick drums is the ability to keep a low fundamental tone while having the batter head tension tighter than on a 22 inch or smaller. This gives a drummer more bounce off the kick drum head making it easier to play faster beats while keeping a low tone.
Each drum has a certain pitch or echo tone. It’s not just tweeting the head. If it was we could all use little drums and change the pitch. Like guitar string gauge
@@alexanderjamieson7971 interesting... one thing is for sure... despite playing drums for years, I know NOTHING after reading these comments... soooo much to learn... an only about a kick drum!!. crazy
With this mix, I prefer 18". Very well blend with bass sound.
Impascetic FinalP me too. I’ve just gone from playing a 16 X 14 kick for 2 and a half years to playing a 20 X 18, and I’m struggling to keep the 20” under control and articulate at lower volumes. The 16 however is perfect for small combo jazz and lugging around university, however it is consistently overpowered in large group situations. Every other jazz drummer I knows plays an 18 and doesn’t seem to have any issues at all lol
yep me too
@@boobman773 Most Jazz players use a 14x18. If you're in NY city and don't have a car, then it's a 16"
Yep, 18" sounds great.
My Gretsch 18 sounds similar to the bass drum intro in the Black Sabbath Iron Man song. It actually sounds like a bigger drum
The 24 you can use in a studiosituation perfectly...Lots of power depth and body and I hear attack too... But the 20 is the allrounder...
Jeroen Simons
20 is my all time favorite, but I love all those sizes. I have been using 18 lately and I must say, it is not limited to jazz and Latin work.
Depends on the drum room. 24s can throw a lot of shit around a room given the standing wave size. 16 or 20's are much easier to control if time is important.
My Tama Starclassic maple 24x18 is so boomy, but also has alot of attack which is good in a smaller setting.
Man, Im on a 24x24 virgin Keller kick and it sounds incredible. But it's a bitch to haul around. And for setting up at home, it's a problem.. gotta move so much stuff around. I wish I'd have ordered a 20 or maybe even an 18 so I could switch back and forth on occasion. My 24 is a beast.. it really moves some air around
The 20" has the most round / multi functional tone of of this group. It would work for most styles in just about any recording session.
you dont know shit though
lmao wot
LanceCampeau your screwed"20 pffft
I was hoping to see this done without holes in the resonant head. I could not hear any difference between the drums.
Sfm aight, let's hear what you know, 2+2 is 5 right?
For this style 20" sounds the best, I personally use 22x16, sometimes 24x16, pretty boomy with loads of attack. I play heavier styles so bigger kick can get tuned lower, thus gives some room for bass guitar and synth in that kind of mix.
20" is the ultimate versatile kick drum.
I would still say the 22" is more versatile because in a large venue a 20" would drown out. However I play a 20" are it is punchier than a 22" and it can fit in a small car easier for gigging.
You can’t really play jazz with a 22in but you can’t play rock that well with a 16in or 18in. A 20in has punch and can be tuned high and low for different styles.
@@Blaze_Drumz I believe old Slingerland and Ludwig jazz kits had 24 inch bass drums like the ones Buddy Rich played
I thought those kits started with a 24 and dwindled down to a 22 and then to a 20
I like 18, because I can mount my toms lower
though modern kick drums often come with 22x18 (or 18x22 for you US guys), I tend to go for a 20" kick in the meantime. It often has the perfect combination of smack and low end. However, of course it depends on the occasion. Great comparison, guys.
Mike Luke That’s why I’m always confused with sizes the U.S. does the depth than the diameter. I’m so used to it being the other way even though I live in the U.S.!
Colin Williams Same.
I prefer my 14 inch electronic bassdrum Sonor AQ2. can use samples from 14 inch to 26 inch bassdrum samples.
With the 2box Drumit 3 module!
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I play a 40 year oldish pearl export series cherry finish walnut drum kit. Still really satisfied with the 22’ bass drum. Favorite bass drum size.
I like the 18" bass for this tune and with that mic. It sounds tight and well defined. The 22" sounded mushy to me. Good video, must have been quite a lot of work, thanks for your efforts.
0:10 - 16"
0:52 - 18"
1:34 - 20"
2:16 - 22"
2:58 - 24"
I did this in anger of yet another person on TH-cam doing a comparison without using even half a braincell, but then I saw that he did everything right in the end of the video. I don't know why he didn't just do it like that the entire time, but at least he provided us with a means to actually compare the different bass drums. Although it was a bit of a pain having to fast forward every time the intro started :)
Thank you
👍
Chill out bud
Michael Caplin this comment was quite the ride to read.
That reverb on the snare pulling the whole groove together though
20" sounds more balanced between the kick and deep bass, seems to be more versatile. I really loved the sound.
I have been playing since the late 70's. The first kick I owned was a 24" Ludwig. Since that time I have played primarily a 24" with the occasional 22" in a random kit. However, the 24" is the most versatile drum by far. All of the right depth, punch and boom. All I ever get are complements on how great my drums sound and especially my kick. It doesn't matter what gig you are playing. As a musician, you should know to tune your drums once in a while to get the sound you need for the gig. :)
18" surprisingly cool. 20" fit the music best. 22" was a real let down and 24" sounded like a rock kick.
@fartpooboxohyeah8611 A year later: Woofy, no impact. Not enough bass, and not enough top end. Basketball effect in the mids. Not my cup of kick drum at all.
I think it should also be noted that the *depth/length is crucial in the sound. It would be interesting to hear the difference between 14"-24" depths, on a 16"-26" kicks. That'd be the most ultimate shootout.
Matt van den Ham Yes, that would be a epic shootout. I kinda came close with this one: th-cam.com/video/2cLHqbEW9No/w-d-xo.html
Once you stick a mic inside of a drum, it’s mostly beater sound with a slight difference in pitch. Do one with solid reso heads a few feat from the drum, only way to tell the real difference in diameter and depth.
Paul Bolin I hear ya. But the mic in the hole of the bassdrums is not really turned up that loud. The sound you hear comes from the LDC in front of the bass drums.
+1
The 24” is my favorite, lots of power and punch. The well rounded ones to me are the 20”and the 22” BD’s
It's interesting that when you get past the 20 inch kick the sound is less of a round "boom" and more of a punchy "THat"
Is like all low end with a bit of really high thing
This is true but shell depth plays a huge part. The deeper the shell the more tone / boom. The shallower the shell the more attack. Look for videos which have the "gig kits" that have no bottom heads and very shallow shells or even those with bottom heads and shallow shells. You'll notice way more attack, and almost no sustain. I play a Tama Hyperdrive kit and the toms are purposefully like this with a lot of attack but still just deep enough for some sustain and good tone. I'm wanting to add a 24 x 16 bass. I want the "THWACK". I like the 22 x 18 bass but it's all booom.
20x17 and 24x15 were my favorites, but the power of that 16 is surprising.
I don’t know why 20 isn’t more popular. It seems to have a good balance of boomy and high end attack. Plus it makes rack tons easier to position than larger drums.
aesthetics
THAT 24 SOUNDS INCREDIBLE
Always loved 20 inch kicks. Get that umph without alot of overtones. Plus I feel it's easier to play. When I jammed with a 24 inch kick I felt I had to rely more on a double kick to do what I can do with 1 foot on a 20 inch kick.
I've bought and renovated a 28 inch bass drum with calf skin heads from the 1930s. I play 30s/40s dance music, so it kind of makes some sense. First time I played it though... was insane. I tuned it up the same way as I tuned my 18" and it was like an exploding cannon shell. I realised later that dance band drummers used to tune their bass drums really high compared to modern drums. It changes the sound , sustain and volume dramatically. (Big diameter tight rather than small diameter very loose). I think there might be a lot going on with tuning, heads, damping, microphone technique etc. that effects the sound, apart from just diameter.
I've used a 20 x 16 birch bass drum for years. Very versatile and I love feel and thump from this beauty!
Different woods will produce warmer sounds etc. Also different drum heads and beaters will change the sound. It basically comes down to individual preferences.
I’ve got a 16 which i use all the time. It’s much more of a jazz thing though. Elvin used to play a 16
20 has some more "spheric" bassy "something" that blends best with almost everything. 24 Sounds amazing, but Id go with 20 if I needed a basic setup.
16” actually sounded pretty cool 😎🔥 20” had a nice thud to it
Personal opinion 16" and 24" both sounded great!
Ditto. I like the depth of the 24, but that 16 is so punchy and would work well in a track where you don't want or need sub-bass rumble out of the kick. The 18 is good too though.
Also 20. But for this mix it probably is the big one and the small one that mix best with the bass guitar.
18x22 is my top but also like smaller bass drums for their portability
Where's a 26 "kick drum to honor John Bonham?😂
Its in the making.
Vini Barbosa there is also a 28 inch Bassdrum.
@@reto_englertDo they make a video with Tommy Lee's 32 "kick drum? 🤣
@@viinnie800 I defenetly want to see that XD
Also Roger Taylor has that size.
I believe that while the 16" does do the job, it's not as low for my tastes. I'd recommend it for jazz drummers. The 18" is a little better, but still not as heavy as I'd like. I'd probably recommend that to a rock drummer. The 20" and 24" are the ones I'm looking for, and they'd really punch in a heavy metal tone.
Really interesting comparison
I really liked the 20" here. Great demo and good playing all around
The 18" has some special punch and attack to it
16" and 24" are my two favorites. Those are the two punchiest with the fastest attack.
18" wins for this tune. Doesn't take away from the bassline and the smoother transient matches the other instruments better
I totally agree with this statement.
All of them have a port cut in the front and all have a very high attack for my taste. I have a 26 x 10 inch "shallow but big" without hole. The sound is perfect and it fist on my ramp with other drums so I can slide the set next to the sofa (that is why only 10 inches long). I prefer the "old" soft "boom-boom" sound anyway.
Erik Žiak thats awesome. I‘d love to make a 26“x11“.
I adapted a marching bass drum to fit my set. Added to tom-tom leg mounts, which attach to the ramp. I have a very unusual set, customized to my needs. Also I use the Vater vintage beater, which adds even more control over the bass drum, I can play it very gently and also very loud. It still has a nice soft sound.
Erik Ziak. I prefer reso heads without holes, too, but have got into some angry fights with sound men at miked up gigs. When I used to play rock gigs regularly I carried two heads, one intact and one with a port. I play jazz now, so am free of the tyrany of sound men who want the kit to sound the way *they* think a kit should sound ;)
I have that same problem regularly. Their job is to capture MY sound. If they can't mike a bass drum without a hole in it then that just shows how good of a sound guy they are :)
I have the same experience, but since I also worked as a sound guy, and I was obsessed with good sound of the drums as I also play them, I know how to mike drums. I told the sound men that I will place the microphones and then went up to him and told him to turn off all the compressors. He did and we made a sound check. He was surprised how good the drums came out.
Thank you so much for this video!!! I’m about to buy a new kit for my apartment but since I don’t have much space I was thinking to buy the 16” one and I think I will!!! It sounds perfect even if it’ll be hard to get used to it since I know use a 22”
I think the 22" sounds the best.
Definitely the 22 sounds deepest and most rich,
I would have thought the 24 would have been deepest.
I have a 22".
I have 2 22 inch kicks and they sound awesome
I have a 22” as well
I have a 22×18 (16 apparently i just thought it was 18 lmao)
I play a Ludwig maple with a 26x14. Semi muffled, mostly heel down. Southern/blues rock 3 piece group so it works really to fill in the space.
Personally the snare sound like heaven to me 😍😂
This comment x2.
I use two 16x20” drums for playing metal live, and a single 16x22” in the studio. 24 has too much rumble for double bass, smaller than 20 has not enough thump. For other applications I could see using different sizes though.
Where's the 26 and 28"
Hans Vandrei Mabahague i have no 26“ (yet) but i just bought a 28“.
Oh cool
Boi get a matching 30" or bigger 😂
Jon Mall boi
I went from 22 to 26 and haven't looked back.
Excellent comparison of the different sized bass drums. You kept the tuning and mic mix consistent. You could distinctly hear the difference in tonality, sustain, and attack. Very clean demonstration...well done! 👍
This is such a cool comparison video! Love the thump of the 20"!
Glad you liked it!
I used to use 2 18s in double bass set up,I've always preferred smaller drums, 16 & 20s too..
That 16 was nice
Wow great comparison. The 16 and 18 are so punchy for this style, they all sound great.. good playing too...
The 16" and the 18" didn't have enough low end. There wasn't enough thump or thud to the bottom end freqs. The 20" was the first one that actually felt bassy. The 24" was my favourite, but the 22" was also nice.
Great video. Funny, cause I really enjoyed the comments and peoples opinions and rationale of each drum . It all boils down to just that, your opinion. They all sounded good. Have to admit, I’ve played a 16x22 for years, and recently have been playing a 14x18. The punch I get with the little guy has been pretty awesome. Mic’ing and the PA’s sub doesn’t hurt either. At any rate, thanks for putting this video together. 👍🇺🇸
I currently play a 16 x16 Gretch Catalina with 8" 10" and 12 inch toms with a Gretch 12 inch snare and the bass drum is punchy deep and loud. The bass drum is quite heavy more than the 18" Remo I used before.
I have used 22 inch bass drums that were lighter.
18 FTW! It blended well with the bass guitar and had some nice punch, Where the 20 seemed to be fighting the bass guitar for frequency.
the mix is great
16 and 20 sound best in this mix. They stay out of the way of the bass guitar and sound really present. 22 gets in the way of the bass. 24 seems like it might be better if it were quieter.
I play on a 22'' sonor essential force stage s drive basedrum and it sounds really good
Came to hear the bass drums, stayed for the awesome snare sound! :D
One of each please!
Great video! Could u maybe some day do one like this but including a 22x20 and a 20x20 as well?
Everything below 20" seems perfect for jazz, hip hop, and RnB. Everything above 20" is good for like rock or metal
and reggae
I have a 20 inch kick and it's the most versatile kick and I can get some of the depth and sound of a 22, just in a small package
And Orchestral music too.
I like 22" the most. It is the classic sound. I have 22" in my drum set.
I like that 16" one actually. Much punch for that size.
The mic loved the 16"!
18x14 nice dry funky kick.
Really helpful for new bass drum buyers
Glad it was helpful!
Bang! Drums ❤️🤘🏻
I use a 26" x 14" Ludwig 3 ply maple. I have used 20,22,&24" kicks over the years but NOTHING else gives me the oomph and versatility of my 26". It is much easier to make a big drum sound smaller (tighter head tuning etc) than make a small drum sound bigger. It is PLENTY responsive too, and not what you'd think a big drum is like.
20" sounds best but I hate seeing the drummers knee...it makes it look like a child's kit (to someone who doesn't know drums). 22" also sounds very good, and aesthetically looks much better
While the music off i'm still kinda heard the bass(guitar), like it's in my head
Really like this video! Thank you for the quality comparison :)
While there was a little less low end on the 16, it had noce characteristics that i like. I also liked the 24. In a live situation with mics id like the 16 because you can always add low end to a kick, but adding punch is much harder.
Groovy stuff man! Keep it up!
Appreciate it!
I've been contemplating going w/ the 13", 16" and 24" shell pack, or the 10", 12", 16", 22". I've never played a 24", but would expect it to just crush in a live situation. I thought the 22" sounded the deepest here. I have played a 20" Gretsch USA kick before, and it was awfully deep and packed a super punch. Mic'd up it was just awesome (like every Gretsch USA Custom is) :)
I like all of them but I know which one I need now thank you very much for this video it has helped me a lot
18 cool and 20" Perfect versatile sound
Great comparison! And timely too as I just installed a studio subwoofer in my home studio. I have been doing nothing but studying the low end in general and the interaction of bass and kick in particular. If off now to run this comparison through the monitors!
Great job! Thanks!
20x20 kick is the dream size! Punchy and versatile
The 18 is my favorite when paired with this snare
18 n 20 are the go to's for sure. I have a 24 at my church. Sounds great but don't try and pack it for gigs. Takes up too much space.
20": most versatile... But I like 18" and 24" the most!!
The way its recorded has a huge impact on the sound allowing for far to many variables for a simple AB test.
I really didn't like any if these but that's just my personal preference. If i had to choose it would be the 18 and the 24.
16 and 22 are my personal favorites
For the music you’re playing the 16” and 20” sounds the best imo
Love my 20 inch bass drum👌
what kind of heads do you have on the 16? Special tuning? I"m blown away. sounds big.
Its a 16" Evans EMAD.
I've got both a 18" and a 24" kick. Both different kits. Both totally different animals. I love them both for different things
Yeahh..viks..22" awesome bassdrum sound
When you listen to them without amplification, bigger bass drums in this size range usually sound better, all else equal. If you're plugging into a PA system, you really only need a trigger and a sound sample, so what does it matter?
I had a 22by18 and it was too boomy kind of subbass effect so I cut it down with a fine cut hand saw to 22by14 for a punchier sound.
Bonus result it takes up less space in my storage and car boot, far easier to fit through doorways or carry upstairs for gigs. hopefully there will be gigs in 2020, zero this year.
hopeful for 2021 too, mate. so you did cut your bass drum down by hand? ballsy move.
@@bangdrums Not gonna lie it was scary because you know it's a one shot thing , the crucial thing was to use a big, flat sturdy table,a brand new sharp saw and take time to clamp the saw extra securely in between suitable size hardwood lengths. It was also a good workout for the upper body. A smaller drum would be a lot easier.
16,20,24 and the snare. Thank you!
I like 24x15 and 16x12 for their tight sound and having that "click" attack. I think they are the easiest to mix also, their sound is more "ready to use". 22x17 also not bad for me, but too much midbass frequencies and I don't like too much this kind of body which will conflict (?) more with the bass and I'll have to fight with it with mixing further. So I think, I'd choose something with range of 20-24 x 14-15. I think the depth or height will affect more on that muddy body of sound which I personally don't want to have. More clear tight attack with "click" and no muddiness. Correct me If I wrong. I'm newbie and trying to build drumset that will fit most of my music preferences (heavy stuff and being pretty versatile for other genres (latin, funk, fusion, etc) at the same time. What things the diameter of bass drum affecting the most?
I’ve been playing 26 inch bass drums for so long I forgot how punchy smaller ones can be
for Studio, that 18 is dead on, sounds great in the mix, not too boomy and not too thin, its a perfect balance, but if meat is what you want, the 22 and even that 24 sounds good low tuned and a lil high end to bring the head beater tone out!
I love that 16 and 18 🤙🏽
I happen to look at this video because I'm going to be upgrading a Junior kit to a some-what better kit. I looked at bass drums and there was one that had an 18" X 14" base drum. So, after watching this... I realize the 18" isn't so bad. The bass drum also includes a tom racks, so it's going to be a good kit. Thanx for the vid.
Love the christmas lights
Great video - thanks so much for doing this!
Currently only have a 16 due to life situ but looking for a 20, as it’s nice and versatile. Although 22 makes me think of that classic sound, I’m enjoying the slightly tight sound from the smaller bass drums.
Fair enough!
The 16” is the ultimate for me 💯 💪🏽
Love the video! My fav was the big boy at the end.
Finally someone did this! Thanks a lot