The Sacredness of Suffering: In Cults AND in America (Answer to a Jehovah's Witnesses Question)

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  • @BL-sd2qw
    @BL-sd2qw 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +41

    "Abuse makes you stronger"
    No.
    Abuses traumatizes you. Abuse harms.
    Also, "withstanding abuse means you are resiliant".
    No. It means I dissociated.

    • @naomi6056
      @naomi6056 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      DEAR GOD SAY IT SO MY FAMILY CAN HEAR

    • @resourcedragon
      @resourcedragon 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      And some other related terms and phrases:
      "Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger." (Bullshit! It weakens you.)
      "Tough love" All too often an excuse to be abusive - and to _hide_ the abuse. When people complain, the abuser and his (usually his but can be her) supporters say that the person complaining just isn't trying hard enough, or isn't willing to change their bad ways or whatever.
      "You have to be cruel to be kind." If you find yourself saying that, you should to stop and take a long, hard look at what you are doing.
      And, as a PS, I have grown to detest the word "resilient". It's like the word "flexible". The resilience and the flexibility are all expected from those who are not part of the ruling elite.

    • @BL-sd2qw
      @BL-sd2qw 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@resourcedragon Totally 💯 Pop psychology and its terma have done so much hurt...
      I never understood the whole "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger", but I was gaslighted into believing that I had, and that I was wrong if I didn't. Turns out I was right all along; I wish people had told me sooner...
      I could rant about pop psychology and the pathology paradigm all day, and how it's just a collective trauma response meant to ensure the status quo remains intact.

    • @veggiet2009
      @veggiet2009 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I mean the fact that I've been traumatized and am still alive means I am stronger than I thought I was, but it doesn't mean that the trauma had anything to do with that.

  • @silentconversationswithima3750
    @silentconversationswithima3750 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    The sacredness of suffering is also at the core of the stories of oppression and discrimination at the center of the foundational myths of almost all cults/denominations/religions. "Our group is superior to any other group, because we have suffered like no one else."

    • @SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648
      @SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      We don't do wrong to believe that suffering in the course of effort to bring goodness is good suffering.
      Christian faith the way it is originally described in the classic bible is not supposed to be conducive to pride or ego, but rather to humility, for it attributes the major suffering in salvation to God personally. Institutional religion supposedly derived from this faith a few hundred years hence IS conducive to pride and ego.
      Gratuitous suffering is always bad.

  • @ChaoticFronds
    @ChaoticFronds 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    The way a lot of my fellow Americans talk about how great hard work supposedly is has always rubbed me the wrong way, but I could never figure out why. Thank you for putting it into words. I love your necklace btw

    • @erickborling1302
      @erickborling1302 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      "Hard" work is a shibboleth meant to perpetuate wage-slavery and elite expolitation.

    • @KnittingCultLady
      @KnittingCultLady  22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ChaoticFronds thank you so much ❤️

  • @jades3654
    @jades3654 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +30

    Yeah, us Americans, we are addicted to suffering and overworking. And it's terrible for us. It makes judgy, stressed and fakely happy. (Miserable)

    • @kikijewell2967
      @kikijewell2967 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Suffering is deeply tied to capitalism. If you love your work, you're expected to get paid less or do it for free. Good pay = the grind.

    • @elisabethhughes6005
      @elisabethhughes6005 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Puritanical roots. Destructive and unnatural.

    • @nataliekhanyola5669
      @nataliekhanyola5669 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@kikijewell2967 💯💯💯

  • @jessicadavis3989
    @jessicadavis3989 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    This is so true for Catholics; I can speak on this as a deconstructed one myself!

  • @earnestlanguage4242
    @earnestlanguage4242 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I was about to comment: I love the purple! It's my favorite color. It looks so fun and cozy at once. Then you mentioned your dress's function, and I was all oooohhhhhhhh. I do love it, for even more reasons now 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜

  • @rebelhippy2166
    @rebelhippy2166 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Even more than worshipping suffering we love to watch others suffer . It's so bizzare to me 😢

  • @juleshappy741
    @juleshappy741 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love this video . The content you shared was very meaningful and enlightening to me. And I had such a big a-ha when you talked about the professionalism expectation in the workplace.

  • @joyelleanne566
    @joyelleanne566 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Matreon!!!❤❤❤

    • @KnittingCultLady
      @KnittingCultLady  22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@joyelleanne566 ❤️❤️❤️turn TikTok cult language into a good thing (this was originally a TikTok)

  • @advocacynaccountablity
    @advocacynaccountablity 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Brilliant. Full stop.

  • @AbisolaDamilola5007
    @AbisolaDamilola5007 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Oh my gosh. Thank you so much. 💜

  • @m0L3ify
    @m0L3ify 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    My self-concealment in early childhood was so extreme, I developed Dissociative Identity Disorder.

    • @KnittingCultLady
      @KnittingCultLady  22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@m0L3ify we just talked about this in the podcast episode we recorded tonight. I’m so sorry

    • @m0L3ify
      @m0L3ify 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@KnittingCultLady I'm looking forward to listening. Thankfully I'm integrated now. Not fused, but fully integrated. It's all about honoring all of my parts. I only split in half. I know others who have much more complex systems and really struggle with it. It really is a remarkable survival strategy, tho. The human mind is very resourceful.

    • @earnestlanguage4242
      @earnestlanguage4242 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      relatable

  • @alabaster2163
    @alabaster2163 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love the outfit and content! Thank you so much for all you do!🎉🎉🎉

  • @michelleg980
    @michelleg980 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Where did you get that necklace??? I need one!

    • @KnittingCultLady
      @KnittingCultLady  22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@michelleg980 party city ❤️

  • @rachelleanonymous2740
    @rachelleanonymous2740 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have to watch your videos twice - the first time to marvel at how fast you can knit and the second time to hear listen to the content! 😂🧶 (as a fellow knitter, your skills are truly mesmerizing!)

    • @KnittingCultLady
      @KnittingCultLady  12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@rachelleanonymous2740 so now you’ve learned my tricks! I love how I’m finding all the fiber artists

  • @kikijewell2967
    @kikijewell2967 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Also "fit" in corporate lingo.

  • @rosevan7845
    @rosevan7845 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I am thinking of a tool that was not used for violence and control.

  • @Dethiden
    @Dethiden 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    And BTW - I’m loving the intersection of critical thinking, knitting tips and compliments on reptilian jewelry. Ya’ll are my kind of witches 😈

  • @Dethiden
    @Dethiden 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    @KnittingCultLady I’m really enjoying your content! Earlier, I had posted a snarky joke about struggling and the persecution complex but I don’t see it now. If/when you have a moment could you please explain why that might be so I can learn? I’m kinda new to speaking up in YT comment sections and I have some blind spots. Thank you!

  • @sonia-lu2rn
    @sonia-lu2rn 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Ha - i am also cabling

    • @KnittingCultLady
      @KnittingCultLady  22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@sonia-lu2rn I love finding all the fiber artists

  • @zaraizabella
    @zaraizabella 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I don't mind marathons
    But it's just pretty boring in my opinion
    It can be meditative to fall into a rhythm
    I find I cough up a lot of gunk in the bottom of my lungs when I do very heavy exercise, it really helps to cleanse me in a very real way because of my lung condition
    But it's just not as fun as running around after a soccer ball, tackling opponents for the ball and kicking it to your team mates
    Kicking goals, passing the ball, running up and down a field
    It's meaningless ultimately, just like marathon running is
    But the sport and game gives a lot of context to the behaviours, and there can be a lot of pleasure and achievement from becoming more accomplished at a skill you are developing while exercising

  • @BrentDavis75
    @BrentDavis75 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I wonder if there's an evolutionary reason for our human obsession with cults / "in groups", etc? We're primates after all.
    It seems we all what to belong to that special club that's better, more enlightened - the one that guarantees salvation because only it ensures access to TRUTH.

    • @KnittingCultLady
      @KnittingCultLady  12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@BrentDavis75 I think what you’re calling our “obsession with Culty groups“ is actually that cults pop up in times of social turmoil. And what we are living through right now is times of social turmoil.

  • @AmandaKing-w8c
    @AmandaKing-w8c 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Have you tried to j shaped cable needles? They are less prone to slipping stitches, in my opinion.

    • @KnittingCultLady
      @KnittingCultLady  22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@AmandaKing-w8c no. Do you have a recommended brand/link?

    • @AmandaKing-w8c
      @AmandaKing-w8c 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@KnittingCultLady Susan Bates has some decent ones but honestly any metal one works great.

  • @kikijewell2967
    @kikijewell2967 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    So...is that why companies want people in the office, instead of at home with sweats on below the camera?? Huh.

  • @jades3654
    @jades3654 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Also, first comment yay.

  • @I_Lemaire
    @I_Lemaire 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I voted for Kamala Harris but this sounds like the Democratic party...

    • @laurelgardner
      @laurelgardner 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I had people straight-up threatening me over speaking up for Palestine this year. To "preserve democracy."

    • @I_Lemaire
      @I_Lemaire 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@laurelgardner I am for Israel but I hear you

    • @erickborling1302
      @erickborling1302 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      What does. The woman talking? If you think democrats are a cult you couldn't be more wrong.

    • @cookeepuff
      @cookeepuff 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      How so?

    • @KnittingCultLady
      @KnittingCultLady  12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@laurelgardner
      It’s so funny to me when people truly believe that “speaking against Palestine” has anything to do with Kamala. Tell me you don’t understand the first thing about our vice presidency without telling me you don’t understand it (not to mention how much you don’t understand about international relations in our country and secrets 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️)
      But Sure, Palestine is gonna do great under Trump… Carry-on