Waterway refinements - Silt collecting and flow spreading (in-depth)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.พ. 2019
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Adding more subtle layers of complexity to existing water ways in this video.
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You seriously make permaculture an artform!
He really does, doesn't he?🤗
Love your videos, liked your extended viewing at the end, i'd be more than happy to see even longer video's of you working the land. I know alot of people like short video's, but i get the feeling that people following permaculture are longing for longer videos from very informative people like yourself. Maybe your normal format at the begining, like you have done here, but the end could be a much longer video of how you implemented it. Great Job :)
I'm doing that a bit more and more... Cover the topic in a more direct way at first, and then let folks know the rest will be more extended. Doing that with the chickens but I might do it more with the other topics too... Glad to know you like it.
A man with a shovel working to natures music in the background. So soothing. Love it. 🇨🇦☮️🧙🏼♀️🍁🌊⚓️☺️
I find these "moving water" videos very inspirational and motivational. Can't get past the ethereal-ness of the trees and fog. I kept finding myself expecting things to start coming out of the fog, lol.
Ain't it amazing what one person can do with a shovel? And over time, with not much effort at any one time. :)
You’re helping me visualize our own 22 acres on Vancouver Island where we get heavy rains in winter, and drought throughout summer. Water holding here will be so essential. We’re just starting to dig into food forestry. I’m thankful you speak so in depth and show your processes.
My pleasure to share for sure!
As someone that just purchased a very wet site, it's inspiring to see how functional you're making what sometimes to me has been an intense challenge. I appreciate your works!
It is an intense challenge, but worth it I'd say!
be grateful that your site is wet. you can always redirect water, but theres no redirecting where it doesnt rain much
@@phillywister9957 All the more important to redirect where it doesn't rain much. Deserts require large water control systems.
@@CorwynGC well true actually, looking at the example of al bayda it really seems all the more important
The last 3-4 minutes of this video is like hardwork and meditation stitched together. 💛
I like your well-honed observation skill and close attention to the effects of micro topography. I try to walk my property and observe changes every day if at all possible. I have a few earth bags that I use as mobile check dams to selectively back up and divert water in the swales on my farm. Not as aesthetic as your log but likely seals off water better and the contrasting color helps me to easily locate them and discern their orientation from a distance. That way, I get a constant reminder and I don’t forget to reposition them as required, something that I might easily do if I get busy with something else. My names Eric by the way, my wife is Tao.
Great thinking here, thanks for sharing!
Living the dream, man! I could watch all day today... Thanks for documenting and sharing this!
There is a type of shovel called a "Mud Shovel" which is just a regular shovel with a bunch of holes drilled in it. This is helpful for this kind of digging in several ways. 1) It is a little lighter. 2) the water drains out as you pick it up so you are moving more mud and less water. 3) It breaks the suction of mud (especially high clay content sticky mud) so that it can slide or be knocked off the shovel more easily.
th-cam.com/video/j3Hu2cBsKwk/w-d-xo.html - Ha! I made a video about them... Got into that type in the last few years and LOVE them!
I love these videos! Great work and thank you for sharing!
Really brilliant work on those waterways.
So glad you think so
I love water videos! Fascinating!
Sean, this could be one of the most educational videos yet... simply explaining and then showing the process, should make anyone want to grab a shovel and move some muck! The birds singing in the background was a bonus while watching you work! Thanks for another good one!
Another great waterworks video! Thank you~
Your 'observe and interact' method demonstrates how one person and one shovel can positively interact with a landscape.
People don't need big equipment and big plans.
Thanks for this! I just purchased a property that is about 5 acres and really water heavy throughout. This will be really useful!
Hope so. I have a playlist on waterways and hand dug ponds that may be useful to refer to. Congrats and enjoy your new we place!
Thank you for this video on your application of natural systems. It is most encouraging. We live in an area with similar water management requirement.
I think a lot of places have seasonal intense water table challenges that can be adjusted with hand tools.
Waterway videos are one of my favorite sean/sasha genres, give me great inspiration and ideas, I already have one hand dug pond on a property I work and working on a second (kinda on hold til spring with that one lol) I was waiting until we had money for machine rental until your vids came along, now I'll just build small until that opportunity comes along and if it never does so be it
So many great details thank you so much for sharing this important information listening from Bangs Texas
Glad it was helpful!
looks really cold.....nice video ...more power to you and your channel
great work....! i love to do this in the spring,it'like medetate...!!!!
Glanced away after connecting my Bluetooth pill (love those nature sounds) for a few seconds and thought you'd fell into the pond at 12:24 lol.
Always love your effort and work
I will join the growing chorus and say how much I enjoy watching the continuing evolution of your waterway modifications. Maybe a future video in the summer that specifically highlights the plants growing in the silted berms along the water channels....a winter/summer comparison.
Happy to do that. I tend to do updates that refer back to previous videos already, and can do so more deliberately, too...
Content is awesome. Your voice could be used for bedtime readings. So relaxing!
Awesome video. This is something we can all be doing. I'm about a month or two from being able to make adjustments to my systems, we are an ice cube here still. I think these water system videos are my favorite of all your videos.
Good to know. It's just about my favorite topic and something I spend a tremendous amount of time on. I've been making ditches and waterways/mini ponds since I was a little kid! Now it's actually useful for something! :)
@@edibleacres I was thinking that exact thing watching the last half of the video, the real time part. Funny. I'm sure that's true for all of us, we all love playing in the dirt. We just are working towards a real goal as adults, but it doesnt mean it's not fun still!
Rice, now there is an idea. My "lawn" looks about like yours. And I have a ditch down the fence line that looks like yours. In rainstorms I see silt washing away and I didn't know how to catch it. Your video is helpful.
Wow, zone five jealousy over here from zone three! Hahah. We're frozen solid with two feet of snow and it's -30C (-22F) right now and windy - sooooo cooooold! Hahah. Nice time lapse of the work being done, looks good.
Thanks! If its any consolation we're rock solid frozen again!
EdibleAcres yeah, not much chance of a warm spell that's long enough for the ground to thaw - we won't have ground I can put a shovel in until maybe April!
I'm enjoying your approach to dealing with the 'excess' water issues, as exemplified here and in the video with the dubious runoff from the neighbor's land. We have a larger site, 20 acres much of which has issues of surplus water/high water table. It's interesting to overlay some of your smaller scale observations and solutions on our larger scale situation. In one roughly 5 acre quadrant of our site, there are channels that are standing, sometimes visibly flowing, water, for most of the year. They're probably man made, although we have no clue when, by whom or for what reason. My intention is to open up this area - many of the trees are dying from the anaerobic conditions and near constant wet feet - deepen the channels, using the muck to fill raised beds built with the fallen trees, and create a chinampa type of system in that area. We also envision a reflecting pond below the house, again with raised beds around the pond filled with material excavated from the pond and another larger pond that we try to maintain the forest around, but perhaps can get some of the water away from the tree roots and into the pond.... Big ideas ;) Long road to travel.
Sounds like some really thoughtful approaches here. I'd love to see photos as your ideas develop and evolve!
@@edibleacres I have a youtube channel, although my video skills are truly not up to the task at this stage ;) There's some footage up on it of our first walkthrough when we decided to buy this land, and an assortment of bits and pieces semi-documenting our progress. I need to up my video game, but right now the priority still has to be on Getting The House Built! :)
th-cam.com/channels/QSg3CpxRW0meXE5y1MejUQ.html
What do you use for drainage of the house? Do you have drainage pipes under ground leading somewhere and where does the water from the roof go? Always like these waterplanning vids keep it up!
After digging out all the good stuff, would an old hot tub do well for our pond that annually dries up instead of using lots of clay? Thanks!
How about a hugel mound where you were thinking about putting the rice?The logs should break down quickly in the wet environment .Love your videos,keep up the good work!
Thats a nice idea, perhaps having some hugel and some water/muck soil production so there is a lot of 'edge' in the same basic area? Something cool to consider, I hadn't thought of that so thanks!
I’m commenting here since this is your most recent video. It has nothing to do with the waterways (which I love seeing what you do with your land by the way)
An idea for growth. I would love to see you network with other nurseries in different zones and locations. I live in zone 9, so some of your plants are not appropriate, or are in the will work but less than ideal because of warmth. It would be great if you had a southern nursery to direct me to for more local and ideal plants for my area.
blacksrunforestfarm.org are some great friends of ours down in Harrisonburg, VA... Could be a good place to start.
Brah, I like edible acres so much i turned off "Bill Burr - Female Roommate" rant to watch silt. "Dropped a Log" haha. When my friends ask if I wanna hang out, I say No, I am in my backyard PLANTING MY SEED ALL DAY LONG
Very interesting, Sean, thank you.
We're doing major water management work this year after multi-year observation. How did you apply the bentonite clay to your pond? Does the pond need to be filled, or can that be done prior to filling? We have several natural low spots we want to turn into ponds.
We know we need switch-backs in the flows, good to see them in action.
Happy to share the notes here...
Bentonite... I can't say I can provide good details to you. I just sprinkle it down in a heavy layer and let the water fill in. Its still new to me, but a friend recommended this approach and said its worked very well for him so I'm trying it too. $15 to seal a pond? Worth trying it...
EdibleAcres thanks, friend.
Hi, great video!
Q.:could I use silt as a mulch around trees for instance chestnuts? Thx
You certainly could. Would be nice for the chesnut.
EdibleAcres thank you, I’ll try it
I've been working on observing mine in the rain too! Theory is great, but unless it's really happening, it's hard to see! Curious if you're doing any soil testing with the runoff silt you get? Do you notice any differences with where the water is flowing and what you're harvesting?
We haven't tested any of it, although perhaps that wouldn't be a bad idea. For the most part, the water you see in this video does not interact in a surface way with our neighbor properties. Certainly could be wrong on that!
The crows as background noise cracked me up. Sounds like here too, but then I'm only in the next state over. Was the bentonite you used in powder or granule form?
It was a 50# sack I got from a local hardware store. I believe it was granule form, Sodium Bentonite. From the feed side of the store actually... I guess it's used as an anti-caking element sometimes?
Thanks!
Hi Sean anymore info on the bentonite clay we have a leaky pond which is ok in the winter but leaks in the summer how much would we need & how ?
I would search online for info. I just pour it around the pond and hope for the best!
I only just came about your channel, by any chance are you familiar with P.A. Yeomans keyline design?
Sure am. Great concepts. Very useful for a more 'clean slate' larger field being converted over to a perennial system. If I had access to a 100 acre corn field that got abandoned I'd keyline it like mad and plant out a huge number of trees!
I am really impressed with your style of water management. I have a rather large property and I keep a small herd of dairy buffaloes, during summer season my buffaloes create puddles to roll in and those puddles collect plenty of water during rainy season so I started keeping a small flock of about 40 ducks to better utilize all that water and control insects. I think ducks will be great addition on your acres as well.
I'm with you. This is the larger site where my wife and I don't live as of yet. Someday we'l be on this site and I absolutely plan to incorporate animals...
Oooooooohh Man! The explaining hand to the max. Crack open a chardenay, put on some Allan Jackson, ohhh baby that's it yeah just like that. LOL Good job Sean.
What is the purpose of your Pond? To reduce silt build up in the Pond itself, I feed mine underground using a standard 4'' sewerage pipe at the inflow end and another outlet at water height level to take the water out back into the creek/stream. I also have another 4'' sewerage pipe at the outlet end underground which provides irrigation for our Back to Eden Garden. For berms, barriers we used recycled tires/tyres filled with earth. Therefore, my Pond is termed a living Pond, grows Lillie, supports fish, frogs, water snakes and is never stagnant albeit, we dug ours with a mechanical digger as it is over 3 metres deep in the centre. You're very lucky to have a natural water course/supply as I do on your land and it has to be used to its best efficiency. In our latest clips, we show how we dig flood relief trenches as after heavy rains and/or rapid snow thaw, we get flooded out and my Pigs are down there. I harvest my silt from the natural course of the stream too. Nice work.
Do you have a link to the Clay you added?
Sorry I do not...
It would be nice to have an abundance of water, such as you do. My swale and pond systems have been dry for well over a year. So no observing and tweaking for me. Just yet anyway. It's difficult to see, with your plants in dormancy, but I know you mentioned berries you were building into the berm. I was wondering if you had, or planned to have a tall tree, in the centre of the berm, to partially shade the berry shrubs? It would add another layer of nutrient accumulation, having the leaf fall of the tree, naturally feed the shrubs underneath.
While the shrubs will take up the excess nutrients from the added silt, the addition of a central tree, will ensure none will be leached if the shrubs have more than their fill. The nutrients get locked up in the tree leaves, and then dropped again in autumn. Just a thought. :)
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Careful not to channelize too much and speed the flow up. Raising levels and slowing flow is good.
Now I’m curious what elevation you are at
Geek time: This particular spot is roughly 865'. High point on this property (6 acre property) is roughly 885'. Very low elevation change on this landscape.
EdibleAcres wow that is very little vertical change! No wonder you have such good sustainable land management skills and practices. This site is on hard mode
That muck isn't like cement when it's drier? (Moved to another place, that is)
If it were in one huge lumpy pile it would be, but as a thin layer or mucked against the stem of actively growing plants that shade it, it is wonderful. If I can get seed onto it early spring, all the better. It's when it just bakes in heavy sun that it can get rocklike.
It looks like typical forest soil to me. Very fine and very fertile I would imagine. Great that you try to keep it on your land!
are you guys still on this property?
Yes, this is the larger spot we farm up in Trumansburg NY
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Plant a few willow trees next to the ponds to suck up all that exess water. They would grow fast.
Good call. I'm planning on some nice diversity right next to it, so perhaps willows would be a nice fit as well.
I don't have land so I just do this shit out in the hills lol
It's simple waterworks. Water....Works..
When dropping logs, always keep your knees bent
Thanks!