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Old vs New: 2017 Jeep Wrangler vs 1961 IH Scout
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Got a '65 Scout as my Daily, it never fail to bring smiles and waves!
I had a Scout 800 for years very livable on-road as well as on my farm in Pasadena. Nowadays people expect cars to be luxury rigs rather than just workhorses. Plus I have noticed people pay more attention to gizmos and gadges vs the roads. That is why we have urban sprawl, accidents, deaths and moronic drivers. A scout works perfectly well with attentive drivers not so much with spoiled ones. My 2 cents
I want one in automatic so I can smoke and drive same time
I would take the IH over the new jeep any day of the week!
For the same price ? I do love my 67 IHS .
Amen to that
Wouldn't want my loved ones to be in an accident in one...For off-roading, I'd take the Scout everyday....I grew up in 60s and 70s, seat belts? Never noticed if we had any...
@@freedomrider266 Most of the time cars had them We would slide them between the seat cushion and the back. LOL do you remember the 1974 cars that wouldn't start if the seat belts weren't buckled. So unpopular it was for 1 year only. We would buckle them and put behind the seat.
Hard to imagine that at some point in the past a roof and doors were considered to be a convenience. That being said, I'd love to have the old Scout in my collection. Unlike this new Jeep (or any modern car loaded with electronic stuff) the Scout looks bulletproof enough that it will run 40 years from now with little maintenance.
Definitely love the old scouts I have an old ih pickup and it’s a blast to own
IH as a daily driver....no question.
I've got a 67, and 74. I'd choose the scout. Real men choose manual, and tough, over computerized, and comfort !!
I had a 65 & a 73.
Real men don't use "real men" in sentences....If what we drive made us real men, we'd be some crappy men.
@@freedomrider266 what about self drive car and flyin car
I have a 64. My only wish was a straight body lol.
@@freedomrider266 “ Real Men “ wouldn’t have had an issue with the commonality of that term. Only those posing as such, feeling a deep personal guilt for the deception, would feel the need for such defensive comments.
Drive a Scout every day. No computer chips anywhere and no smog BS. I get there just as well as all the modern Shtt.
WOW!!! I had a friend who had an Old Scout!! LOVE the Scout!! :)
I would rather drive the international over the jeep
I would Agree
I owned a few harvesters, from a four banger 60’s tiny pickup to the last year they made the scout traveler with the 345. Both great vehicles! The little pick up came out of the woods in Indiana covered in leaves and walnuts. I just hosed it off, put in gas and drove away😀
That scout may not put out horsepower and a precision ride but is in some aspects more reliable in my opinion. That scout could take a beating and last
I miss the good old days of having cables and vents.
Like what he said about what classic cars are for “to go back in time to remember what it feels like to drive that classic car...” great bit, love the Scout
they were an awesome 4wd,,,when i was younger i was assigned to drive our grass fire rig in our volunteer co.......it was a military issue 63 international pickup with a 304 with a big ass holley,,was stubborn when cold due to over carburation and manual choke but once it got goin it could pull down a house awesome rig...
There is a lot of love for the Scout here in these comments....It's a shame they don't make 'em like this anymore.
The Scout rules I had 2 Scout 80's
The 80's and 800's were great offroad vehicles, but the 4-bangers were seriously underpowered for highway driving. The Scount II's with 304 or 345 v8's kicked ass.
First off, congrads on finding a Scout that hasn't transitioned into iron oxide. Almost bought a used one back in the early 80s. But, if you don't have the line sheet from the assembly line you can not order parts. The one I looked at needed a from drive shaft. I went into the local dealer to find out what it would cost. Parts man said there were 18 possibilities. Depended on where they sourced the transmission, transfer case and axels from. They were not all the same.
I can't believe how many brands started the trend of modern SUVs...
Boy that was one of my favorite little trucks back in the day! I love the scout two when it came out in 1979, I loved that truck so much I use to draw in paper a lot when I was 16 years old! And use to buy the mpc 1/24 scale models to build. I would love to have that truck today. Nice
grommet; an eyelet placed in a hole in a sheet or panel to protect or insulate a rope or cable passed through it or to prevent the sheet or panel from being torn....that thing you are turning is called a "knob"... and in 1961 we knew we would be driving gasoline powered cars for the next twenty years plus...now car companies know that in twenty years we will not be using petroleum to get around as these motors lose 70 to 90 percent of their energy to heat rather than forward movement (70 is reserved for diesels) as modern gas motors are 75 percent efficient
....give me the Scout hands down! When i was on college (circa 1970) at Montana State, there was an International dealer (Owen House?), which i frequented, drooled over their trucks, made the salesman crazy....all gone! I miss those days.....ALOT!
Great review. Good memories of me and my pops blowing through mud patches in our little Scout on our way to duck hunt the Yolo bypass in the 70s. The Scout got us in and out while guys in station wagons were mired in the muck!
I had a "79 IHC SCOUT II "CUSTOM DELUXE" model. (This was the top of the line model with ALL the "luxury" accessories including "AUTO LOCKING HUBS" which could STILL be manually "locked" for heavy duty, ultra "LOW RANGE" 4X4ing through really tough slogging.) Bought directly from the "IHC" dealer who had ordered it that way.
id take the scout anyday,my uncle had a 64 4 cyl. would go any place with lil motor alot dont know but sout frames were used for many asphalt and dirt modifieds back in the days before they were cookie cutters
Great video Tommy! Love that Scout.
Does moving the lever "engage the front axle"? Or does moving the lever engage the front driveshaft? If the Scout had manual hubs, it almost certainly didn't have a front axle disconnect. I realize I'm "picking at gnats" here but please use language that will help youngsters understand how things work/worked.
Strictly speaking, it was the front driveshaft (which spins the differential, which spins the axle shafts). The levers controlled the transfer case, which is a gearbox mounted behind the transmission to which both front and rear driveshafts connect. The locking hubs (which were optional, but most Scouts had them) controlled whether the wheels were connected to the front axle. You could leave them engaged if you thought you might need 4wd. Disengaging the hubs in the winter would cause it to snow, every time. :-)
I would pick the International Scout
I learned to drive in a 64 Scout. Very fond memories.
Stepdads got a 74 scout and no vehicle has ever put a bigger smile to my face than driving that old topless rig down the road
Drove a stock '68 Scout 800 in 2000 as my high school truck. Miss it so much. Bomb proof. In four wheel low you could literally put you feet up on the dash. It would crawl through anything.
Loved this! Got to see this in person when I was there. Super cool!
The IH scouts where very popular, so popular it led other companies to copy it like Ford who’s response to the scout was the bronco in 1965. It also led harvester to make some crazy stuff to go with it for example in 1964 they made a weird option you could get a 500 rpm PTO shaft on the scout and in 1972 a back three point implement hitch
First vehichle was a 62 with half roof and warn over drive giving it 4 levers .Guy i got it from said he ordered over drive from jc witney back in the 60s .It was cool high school rig miss it
I would drive it every day,that scout is bad ass
I'm an old timer too (over 55, and that's all I'm saying), but that Scout, in its present condition (meaning no mods) , would NEVER get you where a modern Wrangler would...I'd rather have the Scout, but I'd be giving up some serious off roading! And I learned to drive in an old IH.
BULLSHIT! My Dad's hunting partner had a little Scout, and they took that elk hunting, into places that would make your sissy truck tuck tail and run for the highway. I had a picture of them with a 6x6 bull elk and three big guys "sardined" into that Scout....now you can't drive anywhere off road in Montana, the tree huggers have 'er all shut down....70 yoa vet!
Ill take a scout over a heep any day
I always loved scouts
Mom always wanted a Jeep even though dad found her a steel on a Lincoln. I always wanted an International Harvester Traveler. Dad couldn't see the allure of a truck.
Since we have all these airbags in cars now I don't understand why we can't go back to steel dashboards.
Uh, weight would be one issue...We ain't paying .50 a gallon anymore.
What a fun, perfect video.
My Dad worked with International on this project , he helped come up with the using 1/2 the engine plus the front end out of the 1/2 ton . If you notice the front tracks an 1to 11/2 inches wider than the rear track , they used parts from other trucks they made . I 'd love to have a scout , nice video
+MarkB - Interesting back-story. That has to be the cleanest survivor I've ever seen. Even here in AZ, where they would have not rusted (as much), they are a rare sighting.
Hope he never touches that, and appreciates it for what it is and not change anything.
My Dad had a old Scout like that one when I was a kid. It was supposed to be my first vehicle when I turned 16 but it rusted away before then. Those things did not last through many Pennsylvania winters with our road salt.
My parents had a '62 and a '66 Scout. Guess where my sister and I rode? Yes, on those hard benches in the back. The worst thing was, the joint between the body and the top dug into your back. It was pretty uncomfortable for a kid, and would be worse for an adult. No seat belts ,of course, so I'm sure having kids ride there would now be considered child endangerment.
I learned to drive on that '66 Scout. Not the easiest vehicle to learn on, but if you could drive it, you could drive anything.
Old over new any day
My 65 scout did not have the folding windshield. It did not have a heater as it was an option. The spedo was topped at 100mph & came with 4:11 gearing. It was simple, reliable & rugged.
I have a 1964 scout 80. I drive it to work every day, 75 mile round trip. I drive it from the mountains, to Boise Idaho. Very reliable.
61 Scout vs 61 Jeep would be a contest and something I would have to think about. 17 Jeep vs 61 Scout is no contest, Scout all day every day.
That is a clean Scout! When I was a kid, my Dad had a then new '69 IH Travelall 4x4 in Flagstaff, AZ. I honestly think it was in the shop more than it was on the road, and at altitude, (even sometimes in summer in Flag, 7k') it would vapor-lock if you looked at it. Getting the TC even in to 4Hi was a bitch! Not sure if it was a divorced TC. I remember several times having to help my Mom pull the awkwardly designed lever to get it to engage. As soon as the new '73 Suburbans came out, my Dad ran to the dealer and ordered one, and I just sold it last year. An awesome truck that is getting a whole new life: forum.expeditionportal.com/threads/171024-The-Camp-4x4-Bus-1973-Suburban-8-1-Swap-amp-Build?p=2286250
Good job Tommy
Y'all should do a new vs. old with jeep Cherokees
Oh hell yeah!
They did...
There is an old international with a two person cab and a short bed, in Leadville Co.
Not trying to rain on your parade, but you do need to learn a bit more about the history of vehicles. Jeep had hardtops available almost from the get go. The Willys wagon and truck both had hardtops in the 40's and the jeepster, was a real covetable or phaeton, and offered refinements of the day. Land Rover offered hardtops all through the 50's, Dodge was making crewcab 4x4 before WWII and really upped the production after the war.
Your IH Travel all is a nice little vehicle, I had an almost identical one in the '90's. Enjoy.
"High end sedan"?
You complained about a lot about the interior from what I remember (and I agree).
I just never cared for the Scout 80 at all. But the Scout II is a different story altogether !! My first car when I started driving in '83 was a gorgeous 1978 Scout II. Man oh man did I love that truck !! One of these days I'd love to restore on just like it one of these days !!!
Well done ! Very entertaining !
ill take the scout! :)
Growing up we had international pick up trucks and some scouts they were bulletproof you could run the hell out of them and they would be ready to go the next day great trucks!
#Pimp ass Scout.. @Tommy! If the budget was there and it were mine, I'd have to bring the suspension & brakes into the 21st century. Get the wheels to sit out flush with the body work & I'd have to line the floor with some sort of sound deadening and carpet.. Last but, not least I'd have to do something with the power plant. Maybe a crate engine from cummins or a 304ci with some mild upgrades (nice lopy cam (nothing crazy), headers, a set of aluminum heads and Holly fuel injection). Things I'd never be able to afford but, if I were in your shoes, I'd certainly be out looking for some sponsorships. After that, your truck could handle the responsibilities of an everyday dependable and comfortable driver. With all of that said, here's my stop so, I'm hoping off the dream train. Also, I can't wait to see the content of when you dragged him outa the big shed and brought em home. Best of luck... Stan from Fort Wayne, Indiana. Home of the International Harvester Plant. The plant is still standing today. I don't know if you've ever seen it but, it's massive. It's the largest plant I've ever been in or seen. Years ago I worked for a small manufacturer that rented a small section within the "old Harvester Plant". So I was able to walk some of the massive corridors with in the plant. Just to give you an idea of its size, many manufacturing companies rent sections of it out. Rather than employees parking out side, everybody that works in the building parks inside the building. You're able to drive the halls that your truck could possibly have driven down.. A lot of history there!
Simple, have a modern for everyday domestic use, and the classic to have fun and make you feel good at the weekend!
tengo un internacional scout 1966 y quisiera ideas para restaurarlo gracias .
Great stuff!
We had IH 1000/1010 and Travelall as ambulances in the 60's and 70's
I"ll take the scout anyday.Most scout drivers know how to read a map,too.
My first car was a 1961 scout 80. It was awesome but today I love my Wrangler.
You can't compare new to old unless the old is restored with basic modern modifications like power brakes and steering, rebuilt motor, tires and suspension, etc...it's just not a fair comparison.
Are you guys going to be doing a restomod project on the International Scout.
CJ Colvin they better not touch anything on that scout, it is perfect just the way it is.
+@@bad1487: They could put an IH V8 in it. Some 800's and most Scout II's had them, and they were much better highway cars. The 4 bangers were fine for offroading, but pretty underpowered on the highway, especially if you towed anything behind them.
I love my scout. But I also love a modern truck for a daily driver. The scout is just fun but not practical in modern traffic. Slow to go slow to stop but will go anywhere.
Ugh I want one so bad. Too bad I don’t have the bones to buy one. And I don’t want some jacked up modernized version. The one in this video is great. I’d love to drive this around the farm and bring to car shows.
Any new videos on the scout?
The scout is better. It looks so good it’s my dream car.
The Scout on any day!👍🏾🇺🇸
3:57 TFL's take on Doug DeMuro's take on Carmax test drives.
I have 61 set up just like that. Not all prettied up. all stock tho. Swap a newer jeep? Sure what have you ?
John Sader. Lewiston ca
If I had to drive it across country using interstates the Jeep. But where I normally drive It's back 2 lane roads with maybe a horse and buggy around the turn. I never am above 45 the scout would be perfect.
I would want to on a daily basis, that way it takes me back in time everyday, our problem is we don’t think about the electrical system and the difficulties that come with the classics, if I could I’d drive it on nice days and on crappy days I’d drive the rusted out old truck
oh i didnt know you know what classic cars are about. *cough* *cough* trendy *cough*
Ok, Ive seen all 3 videos on the international. Do you still have it? What happened to it? Lets see more!! Oh wait... I see one more here with an f-250.... never mind...
I had a '72 Scout. Not very much different. Even had the same engine. When all of the digital crap in the jeep starts failing, you can use the Scout to tow it home.
Could I have one of each?
Why a double upload on two different channels?
To get people who watch one channel but not the other? TH-cam recommendations and such. (I don't watch TFL classics or what ever the other channel was.)
nice
scout all the way
I'll take the Scout anytime. I love jeeps, but only up to 2004. After that, they really don't matter.
The 1961 Scout, every time.
I prefer the Scout over the modern Wrangler.😀
Well I think, the International is better, because there is nearly no plastic, all ist metal and it's an real offroad Car, because the Wrangler is with leather and with this it's not really robust
Jeep scrambler old but new jeep unreliable
wrangler makes sure to make you pay for that dvd player in their price tag, because i might want to pop in a dvd while im 4x4 in the snow
I'd take the '76 Scout II I once had over either of them. It had a V8, power brakes (disk in front) and power steering. OTOH, it got 10 mpg city, and eventually rusted out so bad I had to junk it. Scouts had great power train, suspension and frame, but the bodies were crap.
I’ll take the scout any day.
I Wonder if the cars that are being built today will run in 50 years with all the computer crap on them?
I would prefer the scout 80
Don't be a sissy! Daily drive the Scout!!
I'd like to see where that Jeep is in 50 years.
i wanted to see them in some mud, the scout would really do very well.
Didn't we just see this? TFL seems to focusing on more on quantity vs quality of late, and it shows...
I think last time was about pickup truck practicality, not so much as 4WD practicality
well... it would be super cool to see more offloading clips, since they do show the Wranglers a whole lot
Cool :)
We own two IH Scouts. A Scout 800 and Scout 2. Learned to drive them when I was 8.
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No contest,scout over the jeep spaceship yuppy jeep curb cruiser.
You still should have kept rusty boy
People now days are spoiled plane and simple!