@@stfu1503 true and I think Kassandra is a really good Deimos. I saw a playthrough where alexios was Deimos and it made me laugh. He's more believable as a good guy while Kassandra is a bad ass chick
@@SpinningTurtle66 Never found this issue to be a problem. I scampered around did some fun sides quests to lvl. up or just assassinated my way quietly through and when discovered ran screaming in the opposite direction.
I played a lot of Valhalla and less Odyssey but kinda love Odyssey more for some reasons. The combat in odyssey is more satisfying than in Valhalla. The looting system is also satisfying because you can get money, armors etc.oo unlike Valhalla where you can get only ores and leathers in chest I love the eagle also in Odyssey because it can tag enemies.
I liked Odyssey better, especially the more fluid combat style, combinations, having more gear and appearance customization settings. Also the bounty system and being able to kill civilians.
@@alakazamhippity3192 to each their own. I do respect your opinion, but Odyssey is my favorite, and I’d never try to make anyone feel bad about expressing their opinion. :)
Being able to change who runs each region in odyssey was super fun, also the bounty system with the randomly generated warriors that hunt you down was awesome and made each fight unique and felt like I was actually fighting different people every time
For me it's Odyssey 100% I just can't get into Valhalla the same way but I'll give it another go. I think the fact that Kassandra was such a good character helped massively, Eivor not so much
Yeah, and be promoted to the only narrative director for ac games. I think Montreal should be the only studio that handles ac games, all the ones from Quebec are really bad imo.
@@aungsandoonkhaing2768 yeah. Black flag, origins, and now Valhalla. Montreal is on fire, but their game director left after Valhalla. I don’t know how much of an impact that will have
I think Eivor’s female voice actor was pretty weak. The male character seemed a lot more genuine imo. Kassandras voice actor was phenomenal tho. Interesting to see.
I've played over 200 hours of Odyysey and played through both dlc and have obtained every peace of gear. Its the better game and nothing is changing my mind.
I love both, but I think stealth in Valhalla and overall combat is better, if Valhalla had the same or similar naval battles as Odyssey I would definitely say the Odyssey and Valhalla are the best 2 games in the franchise
I'm with you! Odyssey's characters are so memorable and the places beautiful. I'ts a world of wonder and awe. Valhalla is nice, but so buggy and bloated and monotonous. I do live for the Easter Eggs in valhalla though. The mysteries are really cool too.
I feel like valhalla is an advanced type of classic game where odyssey is a game with a completely different and new type of stealth, gameplay and world features. dont yell at me
@@luvtay8804 It took me around 150 hours to complete the entire game and DLC's. I liked to do it, however if you aren't into doing repetitive missions, just complete the main story.
Just started replaying Odyssey with a new game(not +) last night, and one thing I would say is the emotional expression of characters in Odyssey, I think, is much more stronger than characters in Valhalla, even there is some intense moment in Valhalla... Eivor(I only played the male version) shows like "All I want is stay at my home and having good time with my family, just our way to survive is killing, or give a fk on Assassin Creed stuff)", with eyes of dead fish and stone face. Eagle Bearer (Both) show MALAKA spirit... a good motivation of having their adventure, with Barnabas!
Apparently that means it can't have a story about where the villains came from? Which is what odyssey was about. So yes, it is an assassin's creed, it's a story this time about where the templar order originated from not the assassin order this time which was origins. Completely viable idea for a game.
@@Peer165 There's also a thing called constructive game design and Odyssey completely lacked in that area with its tedious side quests just to play the main story. Odyssey was absolute shit.
It's so close in time to origins where they showed the beginning of the assassin's that of course the templars who probably got their name around italian times weren't called templars yet. Just cause their names are different doesn't mean they aren't templars.
I saw your video about AC Odyssey vs. Origins...I felt like I was the only one to prefer Odyssey! It’s cool to see you guys’ perspective on Valhalla. I’m not sure yet how I feel...for me, Odyssey is pretty hard to beat. 😄
i agree even tho they r similar they are also so different because u cant really 1 hit assassinate in odyssey its defo not a game to play as an assassin by the end i was just running into forts and stuff just killing everyone which i think is the more intended play style and does a great job of doing so
Yes! I think that’s what grout me into assassins creed is the mythology and religion - I am not religious I’m just interested in it lol -. And classics being my favourite subject and studying Homer’s Odyssey I’m so interested in it.
@@kingong4185 if ur on Xbox get it now it’s on sale like 50% off but it’s the deluxe edition and ultimate edition I got ultimate for $55 bucks it comes with dlcs, armour etc.
I put like 400 hours into ACO .. it was a a slow start but once our character was mid level it became rewarding. To do everything. Interested to see how this feels, once the price drops a bit!!
400 hours is a lot, but if you add up all the hours from all the games in the ASSASIN`S CREED series, you still don't get the number of hours I "spent" playing A C Odyssey!
Haven’t played Valhalla yet, but I really enjoyed Odyssey. Even platinum it on ps4. I guess I will have to pickup Valhalla after I finish Demon’s Souls
Worst AC ever made lol. If you like odyssey you will hate this. Gameplay exploration etc is way superior in odyssey. Only thing this game get is story cinematics etc and the fact its vikings.
I've gotten further in Valhalla already. The landmass is still large, but everything feels a bit more compact which helps a lot. Odyssey felt vast and empty.
I still don't understand the story buti haven't beaten the game yet so I can't say anything but I do know In odyssey the order was first made and in orgins it was the assassin's brother hood but idk about valhalla
Origins may have lot of sands. But it have more exotic feeling/place. The contrast between barren desert and lush oasis or river is just so... beautiful.
I liked Odessy much better. When i started playing Odessy i couldn't stop playing until the end. I stayed up nights without sleep. I don't have that with Valhalla. I'm 19 hours in the game and playing a different game now.
I was genuinely pleasantly surprised with the story presentation in Valhalla. It's not the most amazing narrative ever, but they managed to take an open world and weave a coherent and cohesive narrative within it. They do a solid job of actually fleshing out characters as well, whether characters part of your settlement, potential allies, and even the Order assassination targets, which were just generic npcs with no personality in Odyssey. I still liked Odyssey, but Valhalla is an improvement in terms of gameplay and narrative. Although, I still prefer the settings of Origins and Odyssey, as I find Egypt and Greece more interesting than England.
Odyssey was a masterpiece in every way - in my opinion. Valhalla is okay but I actually miss the quests that branched and having them in my quest logs. I loved hunting bounty hunters to get the weapon they carried. I loved the world. One of my favorite games.
Because it is not about Valhalla/or Norseland but about invading England. The name should be completely different in the first place. It would be the same in God Of War 2021 on ps5 when the name is Ragnarok (doomsday in Scandinavian lands) and Kratos is doing things in France. Valhalla is just a beautiful/catchy name for the cover. P.S. - how about 40 hours GRINDING in Vallhalla from these 60 hours...not even a word.
@@JusticeInGaming_JIG I’m really starting to think you’ve never played it because there’s no grinding at all. The story and side quests leveling goes with the story process.
I have played both, and I enjoy Odyssey more than Valhalla. My current play time in Odyssey is just over 116 hours, and I still go back to it every day. I played Valhalla at launch. I stopped playing it three days ago, and I haven't had the urge to play it since. I will eventually pick it up again after an update, which will fix some of the technical errors in the game.
of the old ac games black flag was my favorite but it did have some things coulda been done better. hated the follow so an so without being seen or get to do it over an over , gah!!!!
Both games have their merits and shortcomings, it just boils down to whether you want to try to suspend your disbelief in the east Mediterranean or north western Europe
Oh, the irony! Saying Kassandra is a strong character while Alexios is the worst when actually they are one and the same character. Absolutely nothing changes when you pick one or the other. Whichever you didn't pick will be Deimos and that's it. Their genre isn't acknowledged, the romance options don't change, dialogue don't change. And they go even further, and say Eivor is better because for those exact same reasons! Oh, the irony!
I like the world events in Valhalla, since they're not all just fetch quests. Within ten minutes, I'd honor-killed a man in front of his son, and saved a fox from a burning building. There's way more variety this time around.
Agreed. Most of the side content in the game was designed to feed back into the Conquest system, because that was Odyssey's big, defining "shtick." There were definitely SOME noteworthy side quests, but that kind of brings up Odyssey's OTHER major problem, which is that the writing in the game is rarely ever better than just "okay", whereas in Valhalla it usually sits at "pretty good."
@@Xelpherpolis I loved the mythical bosses questlines, but there are only 4 of them! Besides, you have to grind your ass to play them, because they begin at level 35.
I met an old man and had to throw all his belongings off a cliff so they could pass on to the afterlife and then he jumped off the cliff and straight up commited 😂
So far, Valhalla. The gameplay loop of odyssey has gone, but aside from that, Valhalla has better story, writing and world. Remember that weird family meal at the end of odyssey? Lol was so odd. Combat is debatable, but its OK so far for me. Love the changes to exploration, not knowing what a mystery will be is far more engaging.
Agreed. Also, its good how they subtly force you to now pay attention to clues and dialogue instead of Skippy Skippy go go quests and you have to use your mind using those clues to decide what choice to make instead of just finding the correct one and getting a quest marker of success.
valhalla.. are one of the most buggy game i ever.. play.. 50 hrs in... i do love od put in 88 hrs and more... problem is valhalla.. to get to the ending was mad... overalll.. it depend what you like.. they both good game...
I find valhallas story much more engaging. The side misions are fun and unique too. And having a village to work on and build up plays incredibly well onto the ubisoft style open world. So I would say valhalla, unless you really like Mediterranean history.
@@worstdayever196 agreed. Odyssey was a lot more enjoyable for me and idk why but the combat in odyssey feels smoother and the graphics are definitely better with less bugs.
I purchased Valhalla earlier tried it and quickly uninstalled and refunded. Odyssey is way better. Story, graphics and cinematics looks great though. But combat exploration etc feels better on odyssey.
I finished Valhalla main Story. So my ratings for the 3. I still prefer Origins Origins- 8/10 Odyssey- 7/10 Valhalla- 7/10 But I would say I prefer Valhalla more than Odyssey
I spent something like 200 hours in odes set and am only about ten into Valhalla. So far I prefer odessey. I wore and upgraded the poison set through the entire game and by the end of the expansions, the Demi-God fantasy was real, crazy power trip. We’ll see how Valhalla is after all the expansions. I would definitely like some sort of isu interaction and skills towards the late late late game.
and if you go poison build in valhalla, you accidently also kill citizens when you kill soldiers in town, which isn't allowed in the game, so you have to reload and try again without killing citizens. Hard when you automatically leave poison clouds on hits.
Kassandra is a great character that is true but shes no Ezio and Ezio is no Kassandra... totally different characters... comparison betwn them isnt suited at all
After 40 hours, playing Valhalla, I still prefer Odyssey. Better, more beautiful and bigger, maps-locations-cities, better battles, naval battles, more build choices, amazing graphics for 2018 and I believe they are better than Valhalla in PS4.
@@mamama266 do you have mind? It isn't like Ubisoft wants it or not, they said Greece was more colorful than what we see today so seeing the cities colorful makes it beautiful. While in Valhalla it is dark times so having colorful beautiful places doesn't make sense. Lots people said that Ubi should go AC back to its roots and they did they Brought back all Assassin stuff but you guys now say Odyssey was better. If I was instead of UBi I would have done anything which have me money and care about no facking fan.
I really missed the naval battles. Odyssey was awesome in that regard. I still like and enjoy Valhalla as well, but a viking game without naval battles? GRR. They missed a chance there ! Also no one handed swords. But otherwise I enjoy the combat more.
@@Talvekuningas well the game was already huge adding naval battles with also giving naval battles would made it extra HUGE and the replaced Axes( which we didn't have in older games) with swords
I'm only 8 hours into Valhalla. I like the updated combat controls. So far I'd give it a 8.5. Odyssey was great in every aspect. Even the DLC was above expectations. Solid 10.
I like odyssey a bit better, the order didn’t really fit into the story to me. Seemed like they liked it from odyssey and tried to fit it in. Also crew seemed pointless in Valhalla. Didn’t recruit anyone after a point
I'm still toward the beginning of Valhalla but it's just so bleak and monotonous. By this point in Odyssey, I was already putting a glass eye in a goat's butt, under the beautiful Greek sunlight. Video games.
Norway is admittedly cold bleak hell but once you get to the rolling hills of England (and some other amazing locations without spoilers) it is such a breadth of fresh air.
@@goatwarrior3570 Agree with you. Origin is nice, but Odyssey is nicer. Cassandra is nicer. In odyssey, eagle is not only scout, it is killer. In addition, we had chance to see Atlantis, Hades, Elysian fields... Odyssey is more open world than Origin... and many more pros. in favor to Odyssey.
How the hell is Kassandra a contender being the new Ezio? She is a pre established character with no character traits because the player is supposed to decide that. This even bit the devs in the ass when the dlc forced you to have a kid and all the ppl who role played as a homosexual got mad. If anything, Bayek is a new contender for being the new Ezio.
kassandra had the wit and heart that ezio did, she does it even better. I’ve played every game in the series and kassandra is the best one in my opinion but by personality bayek is along the lines of Connor both of which I do love.
@@noscotti she’s a set character with blank slate choices. So no she doesn’t have heart and wit, you chose her to have be more nice to people. It’s like saying the Dragonborn has heart and wit
@@SilenceStabber Bayek, Edward, Arno, hell even another Altair game would be a lot better than having another game with a character with a blank slate personality. They are by far the worst protagonist because they have not pre established personality
I feel like Valhalla took many of the positives from Origins and Odyssey and combined them while stripping the game from many things people complained about in Odyssey. Odyssey's map is incredible, regardless of your thoughts on the game. It's a fun map, so explorable and actually fun to explore too. Feels a bit like RDR2 (although nothing compares to RDR2's open world so far) I felt like Origins map was kind of dull over all, except for a few notable areas like Alexandria and Cyrene. Pretty, but lifeless. I feel like Valhalla's map is a step down from Odyssey but a step up from Origins in explorability. Odyssey has the better setting of the three in my opinion. What I liked in Origins is back in Valhalla: the assassination effectiveness and the arrow effectiveness. It makes it easier to do stealth. I liked the Eagle's functionality better in Odyssey than I liked the hawk or the raven in Origins and Valhalla. That bird (so far) is pretty useless, which is an adjustment, especially when I just finished Odyssey. The main storyline is better in Valhalla than it was in Odyssey, because it feels more grounded/real and I feel like the quests give you so much to work with than they did in Odyssey. That being said, I loved the idea that Kassandra essentially went from literal nothing to a demi-goddess. I got really attached to her and her journey. I'm not as attached to Eivor's quite yet. I loved the armor system in Odyssey... mainly your ability to adapt your armor's look. That was so fun. IDK... I'm loving Valhalla so far. I'm very entertained. I haven't really played that much of it yet, so I'm sure it'll get better as I go.
I think that origins is the best in terms of wild life animals would eat each other and you could see it with Senu very lively world. Also the arena of Origins was amazing!. Odyssey had an amazing naval system I loved swimming in the waters of Greece, also the mythical creatures were really nice. Valhalla is good but it has many problems. The game glitches a lot, the AI is dumb as hell I always play with nightmare difficulty to have a challenge but Valhalla does not give me any, those things really messed up my experience in the game. The game is great you are this raider viking that wants to make his clan stronger it’s good but then again, I was disappointed that Grendel was not a mythological creature. Also HUGE problem for me: when you upgrade armor sets it changes their color, I hate it ‘cause I have a red hood and the legendary upgrade makes it blue. It’s a good game but with many issues.
Finally a good critical comment about these games actually describing their settings and gameplay. I loved them all (Origins/Odyssey/Valhalla) but it annoys me a little how much hate those games get for not being AC 2 and Ezio and etc. Odyssey is in my top tier games ever no matter what everyone says.
@@Francita__C To be fair , in terms of story and characters these games aren't that good compared to the older ones(and I'm not only talking about the Ezio games).
I have yet to play Valhalla, so I am not saying which game is better just yet...but Odyssey is THE apex of this series so far, and that portion of Ubi has always been the best with AC games! I for one absolutely love the 60-80 hours I put into Odyssey, both at launch and in DLC, and truly felt like my $$ was well spent for once! One thing no one talks about is the Modern Day, which makes or breaks any AC game, and not since AC3 have we seen such immense attention put forth into that crucial aspect like we did in Odyssey...what I hear is Valhalla has amped up that portion as well unlike every other AC game the devs had put out, which gives me hope overall!!
@@simpnap5977 I actually think Odyssey is one of the best AC games, and I've played every single one. Its different and it's great in it's own way. I wouldn't put it above, AC2, origins, or black flag.
@@DividedWeakness listen I played odyssey I liked then I played origins unity black flag and I instantly loved them I played 200 hours of this game it was just so Grindy and the upgrade cost is insane at level 80 also the story is so lame I have defeated the game I can say it’s not an ac game but you can think ur opinion idc play Valhalla and see the difference
I played and love origins then after a few weeks I started odyssey. and just couldn't get into it. I dont know why maybe the game felt almost exactly like origins without shields to make it worse.
@@ernestohernandez9370 I actually looked up "is valhalla the same as odyssey" and got to this video. I swear these last AC games have all been the exact same with reskins/miniscule updates. Then again I haven't played the new one but it definitely seems extremely similar.
I personally loved both of them. My biggest hope, is they more with the "Visions." Ik they are kinda centric to the plot, but it would be awesome to see more of the other 6 remaining realms of existence. Or anything more with Norse Mythology for that matter.
I'm enjoying Valhalla way more than I did Odyssey. I'm 60 hours in and not even close to bored yet. After about 50 hours into Odyssey i got bored and put it away for about 4 months until i went back to finish it. My experience with Odyssey almost put me off bothering to get Valhalla at launch thinking it would be the same as Odyssey. I'm glad I gave Valhalla a go now.
I think Valhalla is a step down from odyssey in terms of immersion and combat in my opinion. I was so captivated by the spartan lore, exploring and combat in odyssey and Valhalla just doesn’t feel the same
In terms of immersion? How could you immerse yourself into a plastic copy-pasted world of Odyssey? Combat is also better is Valhalla. No more fucking scratching damage sponges for 15 minutes.
The story and characters are way better in Valhalla tf? Valhalla literally brings back so many old gameplay mechanics and the story connects to and mentions so many of the previous titles which connects the lore together fixing odysseys shitty mistakes with that random ISU bs they pulled and not even mentioning anything having to do with AC at all, Valhalla was way more immersive, combat wise they're both questionable, but Valhalla by far has a better story.
@@degeleagel420 Story where the obvious villain becomes the next hero. A god and father to Goddes of Death, World Serpent who kills Thor and Fenrir who will destroy the world. Indeed sounds like someone worthy of being the next HERO! No matter what choice you make it will end the same. Not to mention they killed off Layla. Valhalla also doesn't care about history and the order of the ancient tree is so predictable and easy to kill.
He said the skill tree was bigger, but it isn't actually. It just looks much bigger than it was. The skill tree from Odyssey could be made to look just as big.
Odyssey for sure for me. Kassandra is a way better protagonist, Greece is a more interesting place, and combat feels better too, Valhalla is sluggish as hell, I feel like I'm controlling Arthur Morgan from RDR2.
so far I loved odyssey more. But I have barely played Val on ps5. I actually liked the loot and all the customization of odyssey I enjoyed going for god rolls and stuff. I know its not for everyone but I dont know where to go and really what I need to do on Valhalla I dont know weather to stay in dream world longer or go out in regular area. No direction
I felt they improved on the loot system (though they sure made few sets of armors compared to Odyssey which is sad). The skill system on the other hand really was a let-down from Odyssey since it doesn't allow creativity as much and lots of the minor nodes just are filler to increase your general power level so the scaling between skull->red->normal enemy levels work.
For anyone wondering. Valhalla has this weird tendency to feel like Nu-creed and Old creed simultaneously. Old characters from the Desmond days are front and center. There’s more focus on the Assassin’s order in ways that throw back to the older games as well. Of course as I type this they pretty much say the same thing.
thats the point....OG fans will love valhalla and newbies will love odyssey cause odyssey was fun but no assassins or lore about anything other than some random isu shit
Valhalla was the 1st AC I’ve ever played. After 70+ hours decided to check out Odyssey. 3-4 hours in, Odyssey looks better, seems more polished and Kassandra’s definitely a better character. I’ve seen multiple side-by-side on the visuals. The character models seem better on Odyssey. Valhalla has a “cartoony” look to it and close ups are night an day, with some exceptions. Fulke and Alfred models seemed better than others. Also, not sure if it’s the voice acting, but I played as female Elvoir. The character felt flat. Finally, too much content in Valhalla. First world, I know but, how many times do we need to talk to Ranvdi? I found myself skipping dialogue towards the end.
Shout out to Norwich! love how my hometown is represented in this. So cool. How they have the wall around it which is present today (although very damaged) is amazing. Im guessing this is before Norwich castle was built as it just has a long house on the centre hill instead. Very cool.
North is nice... but, I prefer sunny Mediterranean more than mostly could and snowy north. So, for me, Assassin's Creed Odyssey still the best of all AC. In addition Cassandra looks much better than any other AC character (including Viking lady :-) ).
Valhalla is a return-to-form for the franchise, where story is concerned at least. The gameplay and exploration is much improved as well, collectibles now being locked behind simple but enjoyable puzzles. Not happy about the amount of bugs at launch and sub-par optimization, specially on PC.
Last AC game I actually enjoyed was Black Flag for some reason. I'm a bit tired of inventory management and loot fests lately. On a side note, this girl has beautiful eyes ^^ Kinda got me distracted a few times.
If you multiply your number of hours (1100) by 3, you get the number of hours I "spent" playing A C Odyssey! I don't know if this is a good thing, or I should be worried !!
@@KingGreen78 as it is now, yes, but that may change with DLC. Edit: Valhalla does have multiple endings, so from that perspective it may be replayable for some people.
Valhalla Better Assasins Creed game Odyssey Much better game. I think of Odyssey was just called Odyssey then I think it would be viewed different. Also if they had an extra year like Valhalla had then they could have made bandit camps look different as well as having more substance in some side missions. Odyssey if one of my favorite games ever.
After all that sweet talk in beginning, his father gets killed .... skip several years later and find myself navigating the waters after the crew rescue , Eivor and his crew talking about how unjust his father death was .... OH ! BTW ! time for a raid stop. Lets kill these poor lads here for 3 silvers. That kind of incongruity killed it for me right there. I liked Odyssey much much more.
Agreed but raiding for three silver was atleast better then valhallas world wealth,mysteries you had to go through a maze to find the dumb chest then find out it needs keys now you gotta go back for the keys back through the maze for one ingot and you need three for a single weapon lmfao
And atleast in odyssey when you pick alexios you dont get called a woman and every guy is not trying to fuck you hahaha dont get me wrong i love the game but odyssey was much more engaging with the story imo
i find Valhalla to be the more interesting of the two, I like how the main story is set up like separate episodes in a series and the pacing is good. World events are varied and interesting. I really like the dark ages England setting, reminds me of game books I used to read when I was a kid. Overall I'm very pleased with Valhalla.
I really don't understand why people don't like Alexios. He's my favorite other than Ezio. I've gotten away from the crazy loot system because I got Ezios armor which has an overpowered ability
I'm still using an i7 930@4ghz 12gb ram with msi Rx 480 8gb I got from overclockers UK in June 2010 still playing odyssey enjoying more than origins nearly as good as blackflag I prefer med and carribean so not to excited about dull drabb England I'm in Scotland 🏴 UK same weather and country basically crapp do I'll wait for heavy sale valhalla
I will always love Kassandra and the beautiful Greek setting but I am also very excited for Valhalla, sounds like they have sorted some of the more off-putting elements - such as constantly having to manage the bloated weapon inventory
Valhalla is already shaping up to be one of my favorite AC games easily. The characters, the combat, and OF COURSE raiding and pillaging with your band of hardened Viking warriors is refreshing and fun.
Valhalla is a better story as an AC title and is enjoyable enough but odyssey had a better fight system and also naval combat . I liked odyssey much more but Valhalla technically is more faithful to ACS fans
@@Lilly_1 would you say it is more like origins? I mean, I recently finished origins and couldn’t get in to odyssey after 10 hours. Whenever I hit an enemy with a sword, I felt like I was hitting them with a sponge, where as in Origins, the melee attacks felt heavy as if I was actually causing damage. Also, the walking animation was huge for me. It just didn’t feel right in odyssey.
I prefer Valhalla because each event/side quest is unique, each of them had memorable moments. In odyssey I felt that there were many reused quest structures. It’s just a Linear A to B type of quests in my opinion.
@@aungsandoonkhaing2768 right. Valhalla have less quests but they‘re more unique. Odyssey have thousand quests. I‘ve played Valhalla for 100 hours and now I play Odyssey for over 30 hours.
Odyssey is far the superior game. I have about 20 hours in Valhalla and im still struggling to find real enjoyment. Odyssey was for me just about the best AC ever, and i have played them all. I especially liked the RPG elements like the skill tree and the gear upgrades. The replacement in Valhalla is rather lackluster and feels like a after thought. The game world feels very empty in Valhalla, and not at all vibrant and lush like Odyssey did. I highly doubt i will give Valhalla a second playthrough, where as i gave Odyssey 2 already and are still finishing a third with easiley over 300 hours sunk into it. Thankfully i play the game through Ubisoft+ and didn't spend a pile of money on this crappy followup.
Yes. I am in the same boat, 🚣♀️ pun intended, but I do not understand why or how there are so many positive reviews on a game that is so dry, repetitive, and with no form of reward system in place.
Just finished valhalla took 71 hours and when I was about 60 hours it was too much I got bored and it felt like I had to finish it because of the money I spent not because it's fun
Assassin’s Creed Valhalla is a decent game but I have never experienced so many bugs in a new release before. Since it’s come out I have had 3 crashes, multiple corrupted save files, and got stuck on a mission where the objective disappeared and I couldn’t advance to the next part.
I beat Odyssey and am about 20hrs into Valhalla and I like Valhalla better. There is less gear which makes finding gear more rewarding than in Odyssey. The map isn't as cluttered as Odyssey. Valhalla has a settlement to manage. Valhalla side quest don't clutter the menu screen
The biggest difference for me is the sailing, i feel like a good 40% of my total time in Odyssey was sailing to an island just to sync a viewpoint. Valhalla ( i know its a different location ) doesn't overwhelm the player with a million tiny islands to visit. Another thing is in AC Odyssey is i loathed the boat travel, boat battles were never worth the time or the loot and just awful. With the new raid system in Valhalla along with the rivers. and settlement, it make traveling fun and worth it.
I loathe sailing in Assassins Creed games which is why I loved Odyssey. It takes about 10 minutes to sail across the ENTIRE map corner to corner. Spent about 5% (probably less) sailing in Odyssey (completed it Platinum). Looking forward to Valhalla too, looks awesome!
2 years passed...and look at what people saying about valhalla! "Too Much Repeatative Side Missions" which Odyssey didn't had such! but only thing id say Valhalla did better is putting the village option! which is perfect! but still Odyssey much better! even today
does valhalla have the exageratted swagger of norweigan men
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Made me smile, thanks
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This dudes got the cleanest Afro
@Nephilim 1333 Jordan Ramée closed his twitter because he’s getting confronted for being racist in his review for Spider Man Miles Morales.
I had to re-read that, initially I thought you said he’s got the cleanest Arno 😂
Exaggerated afro
You unlock it when you have enough helix points
@@QueenLiliTheRed that’s a lot of helix points then!
When I heard 'alexios is the worst choice' I was like MALAKAS
i mean he wasn't even a planned main character, ubisoft added him in bc an only female protagonist was too much for them
Eivors female voice actor is terrible... prepare for this comment to get deleted and this video to get demonetized.
@@gold333 ikr I hate female eivor voice
ALEXIOS suites the best in the story! He fits in perfecty with the story
@@stfu1503 true and I think Kassandra is a really good Deimos. I saw a playthrough where alexios was Deimos and it made me laugh. He's more believable as a good guy while Kassandra is a bad ass chick
I cant get past that horrible background music, sounds like a string instrument getting murdered
Like being locked into a funhouse where every time you try to open the door the music plays louder
It sounds so out of tune like wtf
Dark ages bruh
Lmao
Please never use this background music again.
The real comparison should be between Origins and Valhalla because they were made by the same team. Odyssey was made by a different Ubisoft studio
Yeah a shit one
They literally made a micro transaction for not grinding xp
Cos Origins wasn't all that.
Yeah and just few weeks ago the game director Ashraf Ismail was fired from ubisoft. Hmmm.
And both were much better than Odyssey. Odyssey even doubled down on the worst aspects of Origins, like the level gating.
@@SpinningTurtle66 Never found this issue to be a problem. I scampered around did some fun sides quests to lvl. up or just assassinated my way quietly through and when discovered ran screaming in the opposite direction.
I played a lot of Valhalla and less Odyssey but kinda love Odyssey more for some reasons.
The combat in odyssey is more satisfying than in Valhalla.
The looting system is also satisfying because you can get money, armors etc.oo unlike Valhalla where you can get only ores and leathers in chest
I love the eagle also in Odyssey because it can tag enemies.
I liked Odyssey better, especially the more fluid combat style, combinations, having more gear and appearance customization settings. Also the bounty system and being able to kill civilians.
Odyssey is by far the best AC game
I wholeheartedly agree, and it’s not a popular opinion either. 😉
Best ac game? It's about as far as you can get from an assassin's creed. It's a horrific ac game and still terrible even as a regular game.
@@alakazamhippity3192 to each their own. I do respect your opinion, but Odyssey is my favorite, and I’d never try to make anyone feel bad about expressing their opinion. :)
@@yakiclone45 I like odyssey as a RPG game and not ac game (Valhalla destroys odyssey)
Being able to change who runs each region in odyssey was super fun, also the bounty system with the randomly generated warriors that hunt you down was awesome and made each fight unique and felt like I was actually fighting different people every time
For me it's Odyssey 100% I just can't get into Valhalla the same way but I'll give it another go. I think the fact that Kassandra was such a good character helped massively, Eivor not so much
I think the female Eivor this time around VO is the weakest. Cassandra was the strongest in odyssey.
Definitely agree. I’m glad I picked male eivor
true
At least it makes biological sense
Then how OP is male Eivor? I'm playing as female, and she's OP as hell.
@@TheNeonParadox nothing is different between the two besides the obvious
Let me guess, both of them like each game respectively and ask us to decide.
Nope they picked Valhalla
@Jack Goff cry some more
@Jack Goff Shut the hell up for once.
@@nickthemage2052 They better have, odyssey is a fucking travesty
@@degeleagel420 way more fun than valhalla.
Simple:
Darby Mcdevitt = Literally the only top tier writing talent that Ubisoft ever has.
The man definitely needs a raise
Yeah, and be promoted to the only narrative director for ac games. I think Montreal should be the only studio that handles ac games, all the ones from Quebec are really bad imo.
@@aungsandoonkhaing2768 yeah. Black flag, origins, and now Valhalla. Montreal is on fire, but their game director left after Valhalla. I don’t know how much of an impact that will have
@@nightmare117x yeah, I agree. But I just hope that Montreal also makes the next game, and not Quebec.
You can say such transgression while I still think Jade Raymond was the only good thing Ubisoft ever had.
I think Eivor’s female voice actor was pretty weak. The male character seemed a lot more genuine imo. Kassandras voice actor was phenomenal tho. Interesting to see.
Disagree
Hate the male voice actor
I know he’s danish but it’s hard to be immersed as a Viking with a god awful posh English accent
I agree, Female voice sounds like she smokes 8 packs a day while the male voice sounds decent and natural.
Female eivor sounds like batman and It's pretty decent actually.
it's just a matter of preference. i think male eivor is simply better actor. he played on last kingdom and did a really good job there as well.
@@Talvekuningas don’t like an English posh accent with my Viking thank you 🤮
The accents in Vikings tv show 👌
Could listen to that forever
I've played over 200 hours of Odyysey and played through both dlc and have obtained every peace of gear. Its the better game and nothing is changing my mind.
I love both, but I think stealth in Valhalla and overall combat is better, if Valhalla had the same or similar naval battles as Odyssey I would definitely say the Odyssey and Valhalla are the best 2 games in the franchise
I'm with you! Odyssey's characters are so memorable and the places beautiful. I'ts a world of wonder and awe. Valhalla is nice, but so buggy and bloated and monotonous. I do live for the Easter Eggs in valhalla though. The mysteries are really cool too.
I feel like valhalla is an advanced type of classic game where odyssey is a game with a completely different and new type of stealth, gameplay and world features. dont yell at me
I love oddessy
@@hervis8922 the FUCK??? Have you even played the Ezio games? AC4? Unity? What the hell kind of take is this 😂
damn they really had me till this dude said "kassandra is the new ezio", yikes
That was heinous
Very unpleasant words
She’s a great character, but not better than Ezio.
@@TheRedRaven_ She is not a character thou its a blank slate Alexios and Kassandra have the same diologe
@@ShiaDebate One is the hero and one is the bad guy depending on your choice, so what?
I'm still playing odyssey and i'm enjoying haven't played Valhalla but it looks great
If you don't do 100%, you have small pp.
@@batcout8787 👌 🦆
Same the game is so long
@@luvtay8804 It took me around 150 hours to complete the entire game and DLC's.
I liked to do it, however if you aren't into doing repetitive missions, just complete the main story.
Odyssey for life
Just started replaying Odyssey with a new game(not +) last night, and one thing I would say is the emotional expression of characters in Odyssey, I think, is much more stronger than characters in Valhalla, even there is some intense moment in Valhalla...
Eivor(I only played the male version) shows like "All I want is stay at my home and having good time with my family, just our way to survive is killing, or give a fk on Assassin Creed stuff)", with eyes of dead fish and stone face.
Eagle Bearer (Both) show MALAKA spirit... a good motivation of having their adventure, with Barnabas!
Valhalla because it actually has assassins in an assassins creed. Unlike odyssey
Yea, but there are also little things called world design, combat and overall gameplay - that matter.
@Jack Goff Clearly.
Apparently that means it can't have a story about where the villains came from? Which is what odyssey was about. So yes, it is an assassin's creed, it's a story this time about where the templar order originated from not the assassin order this time which was origins. Completely viable idea for a game.
@@Peer165 There's also a thing called constructive game design and Odyssey completely lacked in that area with its tedious side quests just to play the main story. Odyssey was absolute shit.
It's so close in time to origins where they showed the beginning of the assassin's that of course the templars who probably got their name around italian times weren't called templars yet. Just cause their names are different doesn't mean they aren't templars.
I saw your video about AC Odyssey vs. Origins...I felt like I was the only one to prefer Odyssey! It’s cool to see you guys’ perspective on Valhalla. I’m not sure yet how I feel...for me, Odyssey is pretty hard to beat. 😄
Yep! Greek culture is life! =D But Bayek >>>> Alexios
For me it is invincible!
i agree even tho they r similar they are also so different because u cant really 1 hit assassinate in odyssey its defo not a game to play as an assassin by the end i was just running into forts and stuff just killing everyone which i think is the more intended play style and does a great job of doing so
@@theloner6063 Kassandra the best. :)
Am I the only one who adored odyssey's mythological aspect? I mean I was scowering for more of it, does valhalla have any norse myhtology at all?
It does :)
It's an Assassin's Creed game bruh
I’m gonna get ac odyssey so I can fight the minatour I’m like half way through valhalla rn tho
Yes! I think that’s what grout me into assassins creed is the mythology and religion - I am not religious I’m just interested in it lol -. And classics being my favourite subject and studying Homer’s Odyssey I’m so interested in it.
@@kingong4185 if ur on Xbox get it now it’s on sale like 50% off but it’s the deluxe edition and ultimate edition I got ultimate for $55 bucks it comes with dlcs, armour etc.
I put like 400 hours into ACO .. it was a a slow start but once our character was mid level it became rewarding. To do everything. Interested to see how this feels, once the price drops a bit!!
400 hours is a lot, but if you add up all the hours from all the games in the ASSASIN`S CREED series, you still don't get the number of hours I "spent" playing A C Odyssey!
what i remember from odyssey was the insane grind that it was to keep upgrading your gear over and over again.
I really liked Odyssey but felt the biggest issue with the game was its size and amount of bloat.
From the power the spartans gave me. I choose odyssey
Man i have to say Oddysey felt much better to me at least at the start..
You my friend are my hero
U got me on the first half
Haven’t played Valhalla yet, but I really enjoyed Odyssey. Even platinum it on ps4. I guess I will have to pickup Valhalla after I finish Demon’s Souls
its mehh
@@sillylittlesheepjax6009 let me guess u play FreeFire
@@30jugalvbiju74 or maybe another odyssey fanboy.
Its fun to play i like odyssey and valhalla.
Worst AC ever made lol. If you like odyssey you will hate this. Gameplay exploration etc is way superior in odyssey. Only thing this game get is story cinematics etc and the fact its vikings.
I've gotten further in Valhalla already. The landmass is still large, but everything feels a bit more compact which helps a lot. Odyssey felt vast and empty.
A lot of that was due to the location they selected. Greece naturally has a lot of mountains. Which was where most of the emptiness was.
I still don't understand the story buti haven't beaten the game yet so I can't say anything but I do know In odyssey the order was first made and in orgins it was the assassin's brother hood but idk about valhalla
I agree, but to me Origins felt emptier. Lots & lots of endless desert, I nearly got depressed traveling through it 😂
@@sarahrupert5320 but Egypt is just sand and more sand and even more sand
Origins may have lot of sands. But it have more exotic feeling/place. The contrast between barren desert and lush oasis or river is just so... beautiful.
I liked Odessy much better. When i started playing Odessy i couldn't stop playing until the end. I stayed up nights without sleep. I don't have that with Valhalla. I'm 19 hours in the game and playing a different game now.
Odyssey was the shittiest game ever without hidden blade . Valhalla has the hidden blade
I don't care about a hidden blade. I liked my spear better anyway.
After 2 years of playing Odyssey I still can't stop !!
Valhalla... the story structure has improved dramatically
For sure 👍🏻
The story in Valhalla is genuinely great.
I was genuinely pleasantly surprised with the story presentation in Valhalla. It's not the most amazing narrative ever, but they managed to take an open world and weave a coherent and cohesive narrative within it. They do a solid job of actually fleshing out characters as well, whether characters part of your settlement, potential allies, and even the Order assassination targets, which were just generic npcs with no personality in Odyssey. I still liked Odyssey, but Valhalla is an improvement in terms of gameplay and narrative. Although, I still prefer the settings of Origins and Odyssey, as I find Egypt and Greece more interesting than England.
@@andrewaustin8135 it's not the most amazing but still amazing
Shaurya Sharma the point of your comment was......?
Odyssey was a masterpiece in every way - in my opinion. Valhalla is okay but I actually miss the quests that branched and having them in my quest logs. I loved hunting bounty hunters to get the weapon they carried. I loved the world. One of my favorite games.
so far i’m just not vibing with valhalla in the same way i was with odyssey.
Because it is not about Valhalla/or Norseland but about invading England. The name should be completely different in the first place. It would be the same in God Of War 2021 on ps5 when the name is Ragnarok (doomsday in Scandinavian lands) and Kratos is doing things in France. Valhalla is just a beautiful/catchy name for the cover. P.S. - how about 40 hours GRINDING in Vallhalla from these 60 hours...not even a word.
@@JusticeInGaming_JIG I don’t think you’ve played the game or gotten far enough but it does have a lot to do with Valhalla and “Norseland”
@@kingofkings1stfs no I didn't finish it, too much grinding.
@@JusticeInGaming_JIG I’m really starting to think you’ve never played it because there’s no grinding at all. The story and side quests leveling goes with the story process.
@@JusticeInGaming_JIG i think you haven't played the game if you think you have to grind
I have played both, and I enjoy Odyssey more than Valhalla. My current play time in Odyssey is just over 116 hours, and I still go back to it every day. I played Valhalla at launch. I stopped playing it three days ago, and I haven't had the urge to play it since. I will eventually pick it up again after an update, which will fix some of the technical errors in the game.
The answer is Black Flag
of the old ac games black flag was my favorite but it did have some things coulda been done better. hated the follow so an so without being seen or get to do it over an over , gah!!!!
Black Flag and Unity.
No its valhalla AND odyssey
How original I NEVER heard that one before
For worst AC game...yeah👍
Odyssey is beautiful.
Yes
Indeed, i never felt so bored while playing it, even after getting the platinum trophy i played some more side quests.
Both games have their merits and shortcomings, it just boils down to whether you want to try to suspend your disbelief in the east Mediterranean or north western Europe
Every AC game has that tho...
@@Talirus Every video game has that tho..
Oh, the irony! Saying Kassandra is a strong character while Alexios is the worst when actually they are one and the same character. Absolutely nothing changes when you pick one or the other.
Whichever you didn't pick will be Deimos and that's it. Their genre isn't acknowledged, the romance options don't change, dialogue don't change.
And they go even further, and say Eivor is better because for those exact same reasons! Oh, the irony!
Yup. They’re practically the same person, just swap gender and voices. The Afro dude just talking out of his ass
I think they mean the voice acting because I thought Alexis did a subpar job compared to Kassandra.
I like the world events in Valhalla, since they're not all just fetch quests. Within ten minutes, I'd honor-killed a man in front of his son, and saved a fox from a burning building. There's way more variety this time around.
Agreed. Most of the side content in the game was designed to feed back into the Conquest system, because that was Odyssey's big, defining "shtick." There were definitely SOME noteworthy side quests, but that kind of brings up Odyssey's OTHER major problem, which is that the writing in the game is rarely ever better than just "okay", whereas in Valhalla it usually sits at "pretty good."
I’m liking how grim and dark they can be as well
I met a guy talking with an axe on his forehead, then I recruited a cat as a member of my crew. 10/10
@@Xelpherpolis I loved the mythical bosses questlines, but there are only 4 of them! Besides, you have to grind your ass to play them, because they begin at level 35.
I met an old man and had to throw all his belongings off a cliff so they could pass on to the afterlife and then he jumped off the cliff and straight up commited 😂
So far, Valhalla. The gameplay loop of odyssey has gone, but aside from that, Valhalla has better story, writing and world. Remember that weird family meal at the end of odyssey? Lol was so odd. Combat is debatable, but its OK so far for me. Love the changes to exploration, not knowing what a mystery will be is far more engaging.
Agreed. Also, its good how they subtly force you to now pay attention to clues and dialogue instead of Skippy Skippy go go quests and you have to use your mind using those clues to decide what choice to make instead of just finding the correct one and getting a quest marker of success.
valhalla.. are one of the most buggy game i ever.. play.. 50 hrs in...
i do love od put in 88 hrs and more... problem is valhalla.. to get to the ending was mad... overalll.. it depend what you like.. they both good game...
@@campkira Bro do you have AC Valhalla on Uplay (PC)? If you have, please share the account with me if you're okay with it
@@Mythical.History that's a man without fear, right there
you can thank Derby Mcdevitt for better writing, he's the lead writer for Valhalla (was also responsible for Revelation and Black Flag's narrative)
I find valhallas story much more engaging. The side misions are fun and unique too. And having a village to work on and build up plays incredibly well onto the ubisoft style open world.
So I would say valhalla, unless you really like Mediterranean history.
side quest are all repetitive! that the fuck are you talking about?
@@worstdayever196 agreed. Odyssey was a lot more enjoyable for me and idk why but the combat in odyssey feels smoother and the graphics are definitely better with less bugs.
*Ancient Greek history
Odyssey's ambiance music and songs are very beautiful and immersive . I wish Valhalla had more of these.
@ColdFire you gotta be joking
@@Icenfyre Yes, it does. The only two songs that stand out in Odyssey are the title screen song and the Cult song.
I purchased Valhalla earlier tried it and quickly uninstalled and refunded. Odyssey is way better. Story, graphics and cinematics looks great though. But combat exploration etc feels better on odyssey.
@@Icenfyre The menu song for Valhalla is an amazing score
Haha valhalla Soundtrack is way better...finaly they got Jesper kyd from ac2 and brotherhood back.. best Soundtrack since ezio
I finished Valhalla main Story.
So my ratings for the 3. I still prefer Origins
Origins- 8/10
Odyssey- 7/10
Valhalla- 7/10
But I would say I prefer Valhalla more than Odyssey
Valhalla ending made me mad
@@khaoss4024 why
@@cypheronjv3939 it was all based on one person, with no significant difference in each ending.
@@khaoss4024 oh then thats okay
@@cypheronjv3939 game trailers made it seem like your choices had real weight, yet many if not all of them are short term
I playing both now, Odyssey feels more lavish and huge. Valhalla feels more detailed, grimey engages more with other things besides story
I prefer size and exploration than details. I pay for something and I want to be entertained for a long time
I spent something like 200 hours in odes set and am only about ten into Valhalla. So far I prefer odessey. I wore and upgraded the poison set through the entire game and by the end of the expansions, the Demi-God fantasy was real, crazy power trip. We’ll see how Valhalla is after all the expansions. I would definitely like some sort of isu interaction and skills towards the late late late game.
and if you go poison build in valhalla, you accidently also kill citizens when you kill soldiers in town, which isn't allowed in the game, so you have to reload and try again without killing citizens. Hard when you automatically leave poison clouds on hits.
Considering the latest DLC of Valhalla, Dawn of Ragnarök, what are your thoughts regarding the game now?
„Kassandra is the new Ezio“ „Kassandra is a great character“ I think this guy didn‘t play the older games
Yeah that line hurt to hear.
True that
@Suave ?
Kassandra is a great character that is true but shes no Ezio and Ezio is no Kassandra... totally different characters... comparison betwn them isnt suited at all
@Suave yea i get what you mean... but its still ridiculous comparision
Honestly I adore Odyssey most almost purely because Kassandra is such a bit of alright that I could stare at her face and listen to her voice forever
LMAOOOO WHAT THE FCK
Ac Valhalla is million times better and i still non stop playing this Masterpiece! And Male Eivor is the true Viking!!
u fricking 3 yer old u really dont know what is Assassin's Creed
@@AliathTheMan-kx6sk odyssey is not assassin's creed it's so bad valhalla is closer to assassin creed then odyssey
@@DuoCheats2 nah bro like vallhala
and odyssey i hate them both bro
After 40 hours, playing Valhalla, I still prefer Odyssey. Better, more beautiful and bigger, maps-locations-cities, better battles, naval battles, more build choices, amazing graphics for 2018 and I believe they are better than Valhalla in PS4.
yes
@@mamama266 do you have mind? It isn't like Ubisoft wants it or not, they said Greece was more colorful than what we see today so seeing the cities colorful makes it beautiful. While in Valhalla it is dark times so having colorful beautiful places doesn't make sense. Lots people said that Ubi should go AC back to its roots and they did they Brought back all Assassin stuff but you guys now say Odyssey was better. If I was instead of UBi I would have done anything which have me money and care about no facking fan.
I really missed the naval battles. Odyssey was awesome in that regard. I still like and enjoy Valhalla as well, but a viking game without naval battles? GRR. They missed a chance there ! Also no one handed swords. But otherwise I enjoy the combat more.
@@Talvekuningas well the game was already huge adding naval battles with also giving naval battles would made it extra HUGE and the replaced Axes( which we didn't have in older games) with swords
@@bex8306 i wouldn't mind if it was smaller
I liked odyssey a lot. I'm having trouble getting used to battle in Valhalla. The camera distance is way to far away for me.
Buy yourself a bigger tv. fixes that problem and its a much better experience.
@@martinr6201 wath a dumb reply
It was pretty bad in Odyssey, but it doesn’t look as bad in Valhalla based on the gameplay I’ve seen-a is that true?
I loved odyssey too tried vahalla earlier today and was disappointed. Uninstalled and refunded after an hourish. Odyssey is wayyy better
Give it some time. Felt the same but got used to it
I'm only 8 hours into Valhalla. I like the updated combat controls. So far I'd give it a 8.5.
Odyssey was great in every aspect. Even the DLC was above expectations. Solid 10.
I like odyssey a bit better, the order didn’t really fit into the story to me. Seemed like they liked it from odyssey and tried to fit it in. Also crew seemed pointless in Valhalla. Didn’t recruit anyone after a point
Agree with you. For me, Odyssey still the best AC.
I'm still toward the beginning of Valhalla but it's just so bleak and monotonous. By this point in Odyssey, I was already putting a glass eye in a goat's butt, under the beautiful Greek sunlight. Video games.
I felt the same, but once things start picking up in England, I think you'll find the narrative structure in Valhalla to be quite good.
Norway is admittedly cold bleak hell but once you get to the rolling hills of England (and some other amazing locations without spoilers) it is such a breadth of fresh air.
Ah okay, I'll stick with it then! I got addicted to Watch Dogs Legion in the meantime lol
I find the goat and gat the Eye back + Xbox Achievment
You can’t judge if you’re still in Norway. You’re less than 3% through the game
I prefer the story of Odyssey. Valhalla overwhelmed me because to get abilities, skill and weapon you have to do more stuff. But both of them likes me
Odyssey is amazing. By far the all time best AC game
It's my favorite, but it's subjective. I love the history of ancient Greece more than Viking history. Origins was amazing too IMO.
@@goatwarrior3570 Agree with you. Origin is nice, but Odyssey is nicer. Cassandra is nicer. In odyssey, eagle is not only scout, it is killer. In addition, we had chance to see Atlantis, Hades, Elysian fields... Odyssey is more open world than Origin... and many more pros. in favor to Odyssey.
@@aleksandartodorovic7996 agree that odyssey is much better than origins, but I prefer Bayek and Senu
How the hell is Kassandra a contender being the new Ezio? She is a pre established character with no character traits because the player is supposed to decide that. This even bit the devs in the ass when the dlc forced you to have a kid and all the ppl who role played as a homosexual got mad. If anything, Bayek is a new contender for being the new Ezio.
kassandra had the wit and heart that ezio did, she does it even better. I’ve played every game in the series and kassandra is the best one in my opinion but by personality bayek is along the lines of Connor both of which I do love.
Kassandra has the best potential imo
@@noscotti she’s a set character with blank slate choices. So no she doesn’t have heart and wit, you chose her to have be more nice to people. It’s like saying the Dragonborn has heart and wit
@@SilenceStabber Bayek, Edward, Arno, hell even another Altair game would be a lot better than having another game with a character with a blank slate personality. They are by far the worst protagonist because they have not pre established personality
I feel like Valhalla took many of the positives from Origins and Odyssey and combined them while stripping the game from many things people complained about in Odyssey. Odyssey's map is incredible, regardless of your thoughts on the game. It's a fun map, so explorable and actually fun to explore too. Feels a bit like RDR2 (although nothing compares to RDR2's open world so far) I felt like Origins map was kind of dull over all, except for a few notable areas like Alexandria and Cyrene. Pretty, but lifeless. I feel like Valhalla's map is a step down from Odyssey but a step up from Origins in explorability. Odyssey has the better setting of the three in my opinion. What I liked in Origins is back in Valhalla: the assassination effectiveness and the arrow effectiveness. It makes it easier to do stealth. I liked the Eagle's functionality better in Odyssey than I liked the hawk or the raven in Origins and Valhalla. That bird (so far) is pretty useless, which is an adjustment, especially when I just finished Odyssey. The main storyline is better in Valhalla than it was in Odyssey, because it feels more grounded/real and I feel like the quests give you so much to work with than they did in Odyssey. That being said, I loved the idea that Kassandra essentially went from literal nothing to a demi-goddess. I got really attached to her and her journey. I'm not as attached to Eivor's quite yet. I loved the armor system in Odyssey... mainly your ability to adapt your armor's look. That was so fun. IDK... I'm loving Valhalla so far. I'm very entertained. I haven't really played that much of it yet, so I'm sure it'll get better as I go.
I think that origins is the best in terms of wild life animals would eat each other and you could see it with Senu very lively world. Also the arena of Origins was amazing!. Odyssey had an amazing naval system I loved swimming in the waters of Greece, also the mythical creatures were really nice. Valhalla is good but it has many problems. The game glitches a lot, the AI is dumb as hell I always play with nightmare difficulty to have a challenge but Valhalla does not give me any, those things really messed up my experience in the game. The game is great you are this raider viking that wants to make his clan stronger it’s good but then again, I was disappointed that Grendel was not a mythological creature. Also HUGE problem for me: when you upgrade armor sets it changes their color, I hate it ‘cause I have a red hood and the legendary upgrade makes it blue. It’s a good game but with many issues.
Finally a good critical comment about these games actually describing their settings and gameplay. I loved them all (Origins/Odyssey/Valhalla) but it annoys me a little how much hate those games get for not being AC 2 and Ezio and etc. Odyssey is in my top tier games ever no matter what everyone says.
@@Francita__C To be fair , in terms of story and characters these games aren't that good compared to the older ones(and I'm not only talking about the Ezio games).
I have yet to play Valhalla, so I am not saying which game is better just yet...but Odyssey is THE apex of this series so far, and that portion of Ubi has always been the best with AC games! I for one absolutely love the 60-80 hours I put into Odyssey, both at launch and in DLC, and truly felt like my $$ was well spent for once! One thing no one talks about is the Modern Day, which makes or breaks any AC game, and not since AC3 have we seen such immense attention put forth into that crucial aspect like we did in Odyssey...what I hear is Valhalla has amped up that portion as well unlike every other AC game the devs had put out, which gives me hope overall!!
Odyssey was my favourite AC game and one of my favourite games of 2018 so i'm looking forward to checking out Valhalla eventually
You haven’t played good games play god of war 4 or origins or black flag
@@simpnap5977 God of War was my GOTY and I got Black Flag day on 360. Don't assume you know me lad
@@simpnap5977 I actually think Odyssey is one of the best AC games, and I've played every single one. Its different and it's great in it's own way. I wouldn't put it above, AC2, origins, or black flag.
@@DividedWeakness listen I played odyssey I liked then I played origins unity black flag and I instantly loved them I played 200 hours of this game it was just so Grindy and the upgrade cost is insane at level 80 also the story is so lame I have defeated the game I can say it’s not an ac game but you can think ur opinion idc play Valhalla and see the difference
im playing oddyssey and start play valhalla too,i think odyssey still better so far.
Pc?
I played and love origins then after a few weeks I started odyssey. and just couldn't get into it. I dont know why maybe the game felt almost exactly like origins without shields to make it worse.
ac origins was the last "assassin's creed" game
@@ernestohernandez9370 No shield but the dodge mechanic is better, it’s just like Witcher 3 🤷🏻♂️
@@ernestohernandez9370 I actually looked up "is valhalla the same as odyssey" and got to this video. I swear these last AC games have all been the exact same with reskins/miniscule updates. Then again I haven't played the new one but it definitely seems extremely similar.
Love them both. I enjoy their differences.
I personally loved both of them.
My biggest hope, is they more with the "Visions." Ik they are kinda centric to the plot, but it would be awesome to see more of the other 6 remaining realms of existence. Or anything more with Norse Mythology for that matter.
Did you play the first game like 7 games?😂
I love both games but my all time favourite in the series has to be ODYSSEY over 170 hours spent on that game and still cant get enough
I'm enjoying Valhalla way more than I did Odyssey. I'm 60 hours in and not even close to bored yet. After about 50 hours into Odyssey i got bored and put it away for about 4 months until i went back to finish it.
My experience with Odyssey almost put me off bothering to get Valhalla at launch thinking it would be the same as Odyssey. I'm glad I gave Valhalla a go now.
Exactly I'm doing all the side missions because I don't want to beat the story, I'm lvl 340 btw
Odyssey is way better
I think Valhalla is a step down from odyssey in terms of immersion and combat in my opinion. I was so captivated by the spartan lore, exploring and combat in odyssey and Valhalla just doesn’t feel the same
In terms of immersion? How could you immerse yourself into a plastic copy-pasted world of Odyssey?
Combat is also better is Valhalla. No more fucking scratching damage sponges for 15 minutes.
The story and characters are way better in Valhalla tf? Valhalla literally brings back so many old gameplay mechanics and the story connects to and mentions so many of the previous titles which connects the lore together fixing odysseys shitty mistakes with that random ISU bs they pulled and not even mentioning anything having to do with AC at all, Valhalla was way more immersive, combat wise they're both questionable, but Valhalla by far has a better story.
@@degeleagel420 Story where the obvious villain becomes the next hero. A god and father to Goddes of Death, World Serpent who kills Thor and Fenrir who will destroy the world. Indeed sounds like someone worthy of being the next HERO! No matter what choice you make it will end the same. Not to mention they killed off Layla. Valhalla also doesn't care about history and the order of the ancient tree is so predictable and easy to kill.
He said the skill tree was bigger, but it isn't actually. It just looks much bigger than it was. The skill tree from Odyssey could be made to look just as big.
I like Odyssey way more. Walking trough Athens and Sparta was so nice and the skills were way more usefull.
Odyssey for sure for me. Kassandra is a way better protagonist, Greece is a more interesting place, and combat feels better too, Valhalla is sluggish as hell, I feel like I'm controlling Arthur Morgan from RDR2.
Dude really just said Kassandra is the new Ezio 😂
Meanwhile Bayak is just like: Press X for Doubt
Odessey and origins are both way Underloved and underrated , love those games
so far I loved odyssey more. But I have barely played Val on ps5. I actually liked the loot and all the customization of odyssey I enjoyed going for god rolls and stuff. I know its not for everyone but I dont know where to go and really what I need to do on Valhalla I dont know weather to stay in dream world longer or go out in regular area. No direction
Don’t get why they changed the skill tree and loot system. Wanted Valhalla to be good and it’s just not a touch on odyssey
I felt they improved on the loot system (though they sure made few sets of armors compared to Odyssey which is sad). The skill system on the other hand really was a let-down from Odyssey since it doesn't allow creativity as much and lots of the minor nodes just are filler to increase your general power level so the scaling between skull->red->normal enemy levels work.
@@ZahhibbDev thought it was lacking. No 1h swords or 2h hammers was also disappointing
Valhalla is miles better than odyssey it is imo a shitty ac game prob the worst ac game of all time
@@mikewazowski3227 shit the fuck up. Aco is better than acv. Aco it's a 9.2/10 game. Better.
For anyone wondering. Valhalla has this weird tendency to feel like Nu-creed and Old creed simultaneously. Old characters from the Desmond days are front and center. There’s more focus on the Assassin’s order in ways that throw back to the older games as well. Of course as I type this they pretty much say the same thing.
thats the point....OG fans will love valhalla and newbies will love odyssey cause odyssey was fun but no assassins or lore about anything other than some random isu shit
So true
Which hopefully means Assassin's Creed will be back to normal in the next installment
Valhalla was the 1st AC I’ve ever played. After 70+ hours decided to check out Odyssey. 3-4 hours in, Odyssey looks better, seems more polished and Kassandra’s definitely a better character. I’ve seen multiple side-by-side on the visuals. The character models seem better on Odyssey. Valhalla has a “cartoony” look to it and close ups are night an day, with some exceptions. Fulke and Alfred models seemed better than others. Also, not sure if it’s the voice acting, but I played as female Elvoir. The character felt flat. Finally, too much content in Valhalla. First world, I know but, how many times do we need to talk to Ranvdi? I found myself skipping dialogue towards the end.
Honestly you are joking right? you have to be
by the way Kassandra was the better Deimos
Sorry did he say that Kasandra is a character
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Shout out to Norwich! love how my hometown is represented in this. So cool. How they have the wall around it which is present today (although very damaged) is amazing. Im guessing this is before Norwich castle was built as it just has a long house on the centre hill instead. Very cool.
And thus begins the slow march towards the pedestrianisation of the city centre.
@@randysgutful eugh... don’t get me started mate haha 😂
Born and bred Ledecestreshire here. 😂 the attention to detail on local town names and rivers is really impressive actually.
Just passing Chiswick roundabout aha
@@petrofsko 😂 I was hoping the castle Dominic Cummins visited during quarantine was gonna be In it. I just took a short horse ride to test me eyes.
you can hate me, but i love the Odyssey never got bored playing with Alexios., ACO have always special place in my heart and I love exploring Greece
agree 2500 hours în odyssey
Odyssey is the best
North is nice... but, I prefer sunny Mediterranean more than mostly could and snowy north. So, for me, Assassin's Creed Odyssey still the best of all AC. In addition Cassandra looks much better than any other AC character (including Viking lady :-) ).
Valhalla is a return-to-form for the franchise, where story is concerned at least. The gameplay and exploration is much improved as well, collectibles now being locked behind simple but enjoyable puzzles. Not happy about the amount of bugs at launch and sub-par optimization, specially on PC.
Last AC game I actually enjoyed was Black Flag for some reason. I'm a bit tired of inventory management and loot fests lately.
On a side note, this girl has beautiful eyes ^^ Kinda got me distracted a few times.
I have over 1100 hours into Odyssey and have 100% it twice including all DLC. I'm at 62 hrs in Valhalla and struggling to finish.
Same
If you multiply your number of hours (1100) by 3, you get the number of hours I "spent" playing A C Odyssey!
I don't know if this is a good thing, or I should be worried !!
2500 hours în odyssey
I enjoyed both titles, but I prefer Odyssey for the replayability.
same here. I played Odyssey 4 times.
Are you saying Valhalla is a 1 time game,cause i haven't baught it yet, odyssey i played for like 2 yrs
@@KingGreen78 as it is now, yes, but that may change with DLC.
Edit: Valhalla does have multiple endings, so from that perspective it may be replayable for some people.
2500 hours în odyssey
Valhalla Better Assasins Creed game
Odyssey Much better game. I think of Odyssey was just called Odyssey then I think it would be viewed different. Also if they had an extra year like Valhalla had then they could have made bandit camps look different as well as having more substance in some side missions.
Odyssey if one of my favorite games ever.
After all that sweet talk in beginning, his father gets killed .... skip several years later and find myself navigating the waters after the crew rescue , Eivor and his crew talking about how unjust his father death was .... OH ! BTW ! time for a raid stop. Lets kill these poor lads here for 3 silvers.
That kind of incongruity killed it for me right there.
I liked Odyssey much much more.
Agreed but raiding for three silver was atleast better then valhallas world wealth,mysteries you had to go through a maze to find the dumb chest then find out it needs keys now you gotta go back for the keys back through the maze for one ingot and you need three for a single weapon lmfao
And atleast in odyssey when you pick alexios you dont get called a woman and every guy is not trying to fuck you hahaha dont get me wrong i love the game but odyssey was much more engaging with the story imo
@@rick_rivas20 so from what everyone's saying they enjoyed not having to try playing assassin creed games
@@rick_rivas20 lol it's the opposite in valhalla everyone guy wants to fk eivor but at the same time he has a gf
@@rick_rivas20 facts it was pretty clear that the romances leaned toward the female character despite the male VA being better
i find Valhalla to be the more interesting of the two, I like how the main story is set up like separate episodes in a series and the pacing is good. World events are varied and interesting. I really like the dark ages England setting, reminds me of game books I used to read when I was a kid.
Overall I'm very pleased with Valhalla.
I really don't understand why people don't like Alexios. He's my favorite other than Ezio. I've gotten away from the crazy loot system because I got Ezios armor which has an overpowered ability
Haven’t played the other AC games but I’m loving Valhalla right now. I also love how it runs on PS5 4K 60fps with HDR. Absolutely beautiful.
Play Odyssey next. You're welcome
I'm still using an i7 930@4ghz 12gb ram with msi Rx 480 8gb I got from overclockers UK in June 2010 still playing odyssey enjoying more than origins nearly as good as blackflag I prefer med and carribean so not to excited about dull drabb England I'm in Scotland 🏴 UK same weather and country basically crapp do I'll wait for heavy sale valhalla
I will always love Kassandra and the beautiful Greek setting but I am also very excited for Valhalla, sounds like they have sorted some of the more off-putting elements - such as constantly having to manage the bloated weapon inventory
How can a person in their right mind can compare Kasandra to Ezio is beyond me !!!
Something tells me this guy isnt a real ac fan
@@rileywalker5460 yup, got that right
kassandra is my favorite assassin from all the games by far
@@noscotti she isnt even an assassin shes a mercenary and she never gets title of assassin its the worst ac character in the worst ac game
@@rileywalker5460 being in the creed doesn’t make you an assassin, assassinating people does
More to discover it felt like in oddysey. Valhalla felt like not enough climbing
Valhalla is already shaping up to be one of my favorite AC games easily. The characters, the combat, and OF COURSE raiding and pillaging with your band of hardened Viking warriors is refreshing and fun.
Valhalla is a better story as an AC title and is enjoyable enough but odyssey had a better fight system and also naval combat . I liked odyssey much more but Valhalla technically is more faithful to ACS fans
AC ODDESSY IS STILL KING TO ME IM IN NO RUSH TO PLAY VALHALLA WHICH AYS ALOT TO ME I STILL LOVE CASSANDRAS SKILLS VOICE AND WORLD
@@Lilly_1 would you say it is more like origins? I mean, I recently finished origins and couldn’t get in to odyssey after 10 hours. Whenever I hit an enemy with a sword, I felt like I was hitting them with a sponge, where as in Origins, the melee attacks felt heavy as if I was actually causing damage. Also, the walking animation was huge for me. It just didn’t feel right in odyssey.
@@Lilly_1 sorry but Valhalla lools like a havck n slash mess instead of a combat system
I like the Odyssey side quests more than Valhala World Events by far.
I prefer Valhalla because each event/side quest is unique, each of them had memorable moments. In odyssey I felt that there were many reused quest structures. It’s just a Linear A to B type of quests in my opinion.
@@aungsandoonkhaing2768 right. Valhalla have less quests but they‘re more unique. Odyssey have thousand quests. I‘ve played Valhalla for 100 hours and now I play Odyssey for over 30 hours.
Odyssey is far the superior game. I have about 20 hours in Valhalla and im still struggling to find real enjoyment. Odyssey was for me just about the best AC ever, and i have played them all. I especially liked the RPG elements like the skill tree and the gear upgrades. The replacement in Valhalla is rather lackluster and feels like a after thought. The game world feels very empty in Valhalla, and not at all vibrant and lush like Odyssey did. I highly doubt i will give Valhalla a second playthrough, where as i gave Odyssey 2 already and are still finishing a third with easiley over 300 hours sunk into it. Thankfully i play the game through Ubisoft+ and didn't spend a pile of money on this crappy followup.
Yes. I am in the same boat, 🚣♀️ pun intended, but I do not understand why or how there are so many positive reviews on a game that is so dry, repetitive, and with no form of reward system in place.
Likely means you didn’t play the first 8 games
@@MrDSyR I played literally all of em. Even the sideways ones.
I prefered Odyssey due to customization. Valhalla has like 9 sets only not including cash shop and barerly any customization.
Just finished valhalla took 71 hours and when I was about 60 hours it was too much I got bored and it felt like I had to finish it because of the money I spent not because it's fun
I am playing through Valhalla rn and so far I like Odyssey better
i'm an AC fan but Valhalla is the same level as Odyssey
Assassin’s Creed Valhalla is a decent game but I have never experienced so many bugs in a new release before. Since it’s come out I have had 3 crashes, multiple corrupted save files, and got stuck on a mission where the objective disappeared and I couldn’t advance to the next part.
Can't wait for Valhalla. Within 1.5 years or so.
It’s worth it right now bro
Wait till Spring , im sure it’ll go on sale with the add ons they have planned
I beat Odyssey and am about 20hrs into Valhalla and I like Valhalla better. There is less gear which makes finding gear more rewarding than in Odyssey. The map isn't as cluttered as Odyssey. Valhalla has a settlement to manage. Valhalla side quest don't clutter the menu screen
The biggest difference for me is the sailing, i feel like a good 40% of my total time in Odyssey was sailing to an island just to sync a viewpoint. Valhalla ( i know its a different location ) doesn't overwhelm the player with a million tiny islands to visit. Another thing is in AC Odyssey is i loathed the boat travel, boat battles were never worth the time or the loot and just awful. With the new raid system in Valhalla along with the rivers. and settlement, it make traveling fun and worth it.
I loathe sailing in Assassins Creed games which is why I loved Odyssey. It takes about 10 minutes to sail across the ENTIRE map corner to corner. Spent about 5% (probably less) sailing in Odyssey (completed it Platinum). Looking forward to Valhalla too, looks awesome!
2 years passed...and look at what people saying about valhalla! "Too Much Repeatative Side Missions" which Odyssey didn't had such! but only thing id say Valhalla did better is putting the village option! which is perfect! but still Odyssey much better! even today