Orange over gold. The gold is a bit dirty looking. Also the new 32’s were to be seen at the Worlds xcm last year with Andrew L’Esperance and Hayley Smith running them.
1:45 Engineer here 🧑🔧 it's most likely not AI generated. The Fox engineers probably used topology optimization. This is a tool/technique based on the FEA (finite element analysis), where small pieces of material are removed from the original part to reduce weight, but still withstand the occuring loads. This leads to the fancy shapes of the parts.
First thing that sprung to mind was "oh they're going fancy using topology optimisation" and when the said AI I was like nah, this is the marketing people talking there's no way the designers would say this is AI.
As for the question of fork adjustability, personally I've always thought that compression damping is a bit rubbish really. Because essentially the size of the internals of forks is pretty small in dimensions and the results of squeezing oil through and playing with the speed that happens at, generally seems to crush the sensitivity of the fork and any beneficial effects are rather pointless if the fork isn't tracking the ground and actually damping the transmission of shock to the rider. I've personally found that a simple open bath fork with rebound damping only, adjusted only by adding or removing oil from the oil bath and playing with the weight of the oil has always produced the best results for me personally. I will add that I'm no hardcore rider, but I am a mechanic. My favourite fork of all time, because of the awesome upgrade it was at the time was the Fox 32 Vanilla R. Now that's as simple as a fork can be but wow was it responsive, and the damper worked amazingly, going from a 120mm air fork to the 140mm coil vanilla improved my riding massively. So yeah I'm not really sold on these highly adjustable, massively expensive dampers to be honest, I'd rather the research went into improved durability and longevity.
Wide open can feel great at times but it can wallow in corners and feel harsher on larger hits even where you don't bottom. You kind of bounce off the air spring instead of blowing off some of that momentum on the way down.
@@anthonyvizzo1456 I haven't gotten the chance to experience what you mean since i've not yet had forks at full performance (in short, first bike had a blown fork and on my current one i'll replace the old ones for the chance to run mullet and get damping adjustment since the ones on this one are kinda dead), but i feel like that's a non-issue for casual riders who just wanna have fun where comfort is peak just below versatility.
I’m looking forward to Dangerholm sanding down a pair of gold 32 SC! 😂 I’m sticking with my Öhlins RXF36’s being an average rider who’ll be unable to tell the difference in shim stacks or dampers on my 5yr old bike 🤘❤️🌈🕊️🌍
Gotta admit.. I’ve never messed with fork settings aside from air haha. Give me a fork with the right travel, and a fork that holds air, and I’m a happy guy.🎉
The reverse arch... Manitou has been a proponent of it for ever! and it's always been frowned upon. Now suddenly Fox jumps on in and it's cool? 🙄 I'm off to buy a Manitou Mezzer pro fork now...
All this suspension technology is baffling. My set up on my last four bikes has been, air pressure middle what manufacturer recommend, all the dials i count how many clicks and set them all to the middle, both front and rear. Then i never touch them again. 🤣
Damn, you didn't even bother experimenting a bit with rebound or damping? Hear me out: open the compression a bit and increase air pressure to compensate, it'll feel smoother and still resist on jumps and stuff. You can have a lot of fun tryng stuff, and it's all in reach of your hands, there's not really much of a reason not to do it imo
This is this thing I see everywhere. People buy the latest trendy fork and ride. Then some try my fork and say: wow! it works amazing! I have to buy a new fork (whatever the trend is) and I ten fiddle around with their settings and they're so surprised and almost disappointed they don't need to buy a new fork 🙄😄
@@Ferrari255GTO Haven't even bothered with extra or less tokens either. Can't be bothered researching, as every time I have tinkered, I either blow through the travel or wash out in flat corners. My current bike could probably be capable of better set up ( mondraker crafty RR E 2023 model) but don't have the patience too.
GRIP X2 damper, FOX have moved away from their previous VVC system (Variable Valve Control) for the compression adjuster, which was only introduced a few years ago with the GRIP2 damper The Variable Valve Control in the compression stage primarily influences the high-speed setting. VVC uses a leaf spring which presses against an ovalized track on a cover at the top of the shim stack. As you turn the HSC knob, the spring rotates from the widest to the narrowest part of the oval, increasing the spring rate in the process, leading to a progressive increase ir damping force without a corresponding increase in breakaway force. In theory, this allows you to increase big-hit resistance without losing sensitivity, offering a wider range of adjustment with only 7 shims in the stack, without the need to open up the fork to replace shims. Furthermore, FOX updated the base valve through which the piston rod displaces the oil - this has grown from 20 mm to 24 mm in diameter. This allows the actual shims to regulate the oil flow better, and thus to increase adjustability. FOX still rely on the VVC system for the rebound damping, however. The new 2025 FOX GRIP X2 damper allows for the following adjustments: Low-Speed Compression (LSC): 18 clicks High-Speed Compression (HSC): 8 clicks Low-Speed Rebound (LSR): 16 clicks High-Speed Rebound (HSR): 8 clicks Of course, you can still add volume spacers to the positive air chamber, and FOX also retained the bleed ports on the back of the lowers, which allow you to equalise the pressure inside the fork with atmospheric changes
Weird it has taken another brand so long to do reverse crown since Manitou have been doing it for like 20something years and the benifits have been touted for that long. Patent expirey or something?
#quiz - It doesn't sound like that long ago - but it was 2001 when the Fox FORX Suspension Fork came out in Grey with Blue graphics. I'm going to say that Brian Lopes used them in the GT Factory team? (I think he won the 4X World Title on them?).
To me, a fork is a fork, it goes up, it goes down. How fast, slow, harsh or soft or any of that doesn’t matter. As long as it works as a fork should, then this new trickery from fox is ok in my opinion
Also worth noting they changed the Fork bushing design, same diamiter and width as the old ones so backwards compatible but supposedy more sensitive and allows oil to flow better.
Hi guys, great show as always. With regards to the new Fox Dampers, personally I think they should sort out there assembly issues before anything else. The excess grease issue is widespread. If I didn't know about it I would have rejected my Fox 38s as they were shocking brand new, and I couldn't tune them at all. Once they were stripped and cleaned they are like butter, but this should not need to be done on a brand new £1000 fork! Love all the shows and all presenters. Keep up the great work Love Jeffers
Regarding cost for the updated Forbidden bike vs The Atherton bike from last week that I'm sure the "thoughts on pricing" thing was about: The Forbidden bike isn't claiming to be affordable. It's carbon. Compare the build kits. The Forbidden's build kit is pretty good straight out of the gate. I don't think people were complaining about "the pricing" per se. They were complaining about the attempts to normalize a $5000 USD bike as "affordable." It's not. That word has never meant whatever a $5000 bike is. It might be an awesome bike very much worthy of that $5000 price tag but it's not "affordable" and to participate in attempting to shift the mindset to view that $5000 price tag as "affordable" is irresponsible.
The fact they sell a lot proves they are doing something right but I don't use fox factory forks because they are too expensive and fragile, service intervals are ridiculous, they should work on that instead of removing features to save money in the name of user interest, I don't like that company, does it shows? 😂
As with the recent launch of the Sram electronic transmission there is bound to be a certain amount of sales hype. However, the Sram system from riders reports in use has gone down well. Back to the Fox forks, since owning my Atherton AM.130 I've move from nil fork set up knowledge to being a suspension nerd and loving keeping the ride log details etc. Fox 34 factory Grip2 at moment, seriously thinking to 'upgrade' to the new Factory Grip x ...34 or 36 that is the question.
AI generate the arch shape? Bollocks. This is just a stress simulation software. AI would generate a new fork and do your taxes on the side, call for your next dentist apointment. AI is something that can think for itself and not just follow a set of instructions.
From my armchair, what I've been reading and seeing in reviews is the Rock Shox unit is easier to adjust compared to an equivalent Fox. Also, Rock Shox Buttercups deal with the rough, small, juddering bumps with a bit more supple damping compared to Fox. So it's an educated guess that Fox have decided to simplify adjustment/controls and add some supple bump damping into their 36. Anyone else have the same thoughts?
Well, if i understand correctly, Fox is more "hardcore race" inspired whiel rockshox engineers a bit more for the public side, so it would make sense for RockShox to be the smoothest and most adjustable. Either way i like them both, i got a kashima DHX2 Factory Series recently and i love it, took me a while to get used to the agressive rebound but i'm really happy with it
I don't know if the new Fox dampers are marketing BS. I'm still trying to get my head around The high and low speed damping on the forks and shock. On Blake's old bike.
my dream damper would have lots of range but be able to set 3 presets. My Grip 2 damper adjustability but open, medium, hard "memory" positions that I adjust and set.
This was in the online groups yes all the breakdowns of the GX2 to replace the Grip2 and the GX to replace fit 4, They have done a New VVC and FOX updated the base valve through which the piston rod displaces the oil - this has grown from 20 mm to 24 mm in diameter. This allows the actual shims to regulate the oil flow better, and thus to increase adjustability. FOX still rely on the VVC system for the rebound damping, however. The new 2025 FOX GRIP X2 damper allows for the following adjustments: Low-Speed Compression (LSC): 18 clicks High-Speed Compression (HSC): 8 clicks Low-Speed Rebound (LSR): 16 clicks High-Speed Rebound (HSR): 8 clicks Of course, you can still add volume spacers to the positive air chamber, and FOX also retained the bleed ports on the back of the lowers, which allow you to equalise the pressure inside the fork with atmospheric pressure
£80 for a bike tyre🤯🤯 wow! everything to do with this sport is a con.. Anyone who says most bike stuff is value for money has got more money than sense. Ridiculous prices now
Hmmm. I relly think that most people arent skilled enough to feel a riding difference between a performance and factory fork. Let alone the old damper and new damper.
I like the new look. Now I’ll take out a loan against my home to buy one. Kidding. Maybe when my face heals completely from my oral jaw surgery I’ll buy one. Then I’ll be able to ride again.
Oh man, I would love a damper deep dive! I'm in that camp where I would think I know something if I didn't know I don't! Would be great to see terms like "compression rate of 1m/s" Related to real riding situations. Haha!
Fox first mountain bike shock was the ALPS-1 in 1991, it was Gold. Fitted to Cannondales. Then in 2001 they introduced the fox fork in a silver grey metalic colour ✌🏽
#askgmbntech hi there, I have a shimano deore brake caliper that's been leaking oil and contaminating pads. I have a spare magura caliper ( cracked the lever body by over tightening the bolts ) that I'm thinking about using to replace. The question is, which brand fluid would be better, red shimano or blue magura? Cheers
Didn't Fox consider muddy rides when they got Skynet to design the new forks? Or are they only designed for dry Californian rides? Not crappy muddy UK rides.
The challenge will be, as a result of AI, how to ensure that your product is unique and noticeable in a world where every single design will be optimised by AI, surely resulting in identical solutions and products. Surely AI will only ever reach one solution to the parameters we tell it to process right? Surely there is only one way to make something optimally and no two AI systems will arrive at different solutions, as there's only one correct way to do it? The world is going to look very different in 100 years from now that's for sure.
It's a scary thought, but perhaps as AI learns shapes might change? AI could also learn what shapes are appealing in design and integrate that into the design. It's mad to think what the future will look like 🤖
@@gmbntech This isn't really 'AI', it is statistical modelling - feed in parameters and model the output. Granted that is what most AI tools do... but there is no LLM sitting at the back of this design.
I think the gold forks just look cheap, did they get kids to use spray cans from the local DIY store🤮🤮🤮🤮 Fox's next colour scheme ...bright pink? Or maybe they'll being back the dog 💩 brown back.
Yeah, they don't look great... What makes the kashima stand out is the shimy surface, wich is a horrible idea as sneezing near it would scratch it. It's just a way to make some noise with marketing anyways
Would you choose the new gold Fox Fork lowers over the orange or black? Let us know in the comments! 👇
Orange over gold. The gold is a bit dirty looking. Also the new 32’s were to be seen at the Worlds xcm last year with Andrew L’Esperance and Hayley Smith running them.
No!
1:45 Engineer here 🧑🔧 it's most likely not AI generated. The Fox engineers probably used topology optimization. This is a tool/technique based on the FEA (finite element analysis), where small pieces of material are removed from the original part to reduce weight, but still withstand the occuring loads. This leads to the fancy shapes of the parts.
Ya AI is a buzzword now for computer assisted, which they have been doing for years anyways.
First thing that sprung to mind was "oh they're going fancy using topology optimisation" and when the said AI I was like nah, this is the marketing people talking there's no way the designers would say this is AI.
Owen: it’s almost 3 smarties 😂
I have no idea still how forks work, but thanks :D
All I know air goes into one tube, rebound goes into the other :D
Don't you worry, if you can bring your bike to shops they will figure it out for you XD
As for the question of fork adjustability, personally I've always thought that compression damping is a bit rubbish really. Because essentially the size of the internals of forks is pretty small in dimensions and the results of squeezing oil through and playing with the speed that happens at, generally seems to crush the sensitivity of the fork and any beneficial effects are rather pointless if the fork isn't tracking the ground and actually damping the transmission of shock to the rider. I've personally found that a simple open bath fork with rebound damping only, adjusted only by adding or removing oil from the oil bath and playing with the weight of the oil has always produced the best results for me personally. I will add that I'm no hardcore rider, but I am a mechanic. My favourite fork of all time, because of the awesome upgrade it was at the time was the Fox 32 Vanilla R. Now that's as simple as a fork can be but wow was it responsive, and the damper worked amazingly, going from a 120mm air fork to the 140mm coil vanilla improved my riding massively. So yeah I'm not really sold on these highly adjustable, massively expensive dampers to be honest, I'd rather the research went into improved durability and longevity.
Wide open can feel great at times but it can wallow in corners and feel harsher on larger hits even where you don't bottom. You kind of bounce off the air spring instead of blowing off some of that momentum on the way down.
@@anthonyvizzo1456 I haven't gotten the chance to experience what you mean since i've not yet had forks at full performance (in short, first bike had a blown fork and on my current one i'll replace the old ones for the chance to run mullet and get damping adjustment since the ones on this one are kinda dead), but i feel like that's a non-issue for casual riders who just wanna have fun where comfort is peak just below versatility.
Manufacturer: How much gold you want?
Fox: Yes.
Just bought a Fox 36 Performance, I'll be happy just to set it up and ride.
I have that fork, happy with it.
I’m looking forward to Dangerholm sanding down a pair of gold 32 SC! 😂 I’m sticking with my Öhlins RXF36’s being an average rider who’ll be unable to tell the difference in shim stacks or dampers on my 5yr old bike 🤘❤️🌈🕊️🌍
Gotta admit.. I’ve never messed with fork settings aside from air haha. Give me a fork with the right travel, and a fork that holds air, and I’m a happy guy.🎉
The reverse arch... Manitou has been a proponent of it for ever! and it's always been frowned upon.
Now suddenly Fox jumps on in and it's cool? 🙄
I'm off to buy a Manitou Mezzer pro fork now...
Pace did it first...
I’d like to see an upside down fork. My best friend had one on an older bike. Definitely looks more like a dirt bike front fork.
All this suspension technology is baffling. My set up on my last four bikes has been, air pressure middle what manufacturer recommend, all the dials i count how many clicks and set them all to the middle, both front and rear. Then i never touch them again. 🤣
Damn, you didn't even bother experimenting a bit with rebound or damping? Hear me out: open the compression a bit and increase air pressure to compensate, it'll feel smoother and still resist on jumps and stuff. You can have a lot of fun tryng stuff, and it's all in reach of your hands, there's not really much of a reason not to do it imo
This is this thing I see everywhere. People buy the latest trendy fork and ride. Then some try my fork and say: wow! it works amazing! I have to buy a new fork (whatever the trend is) and I ten fiddle around with their settings and they're so surprised and almost disappointed they don't need to buy a new fork 🙄😄
@@Ferrari255GTO Haven't even bothered with extra or less tokens either. Can't be bothered researching, as every time I have tinkered, I either blow through the travel or wash out in flat corners. My current bike could probably be capable of better set up ( mondraker crafty RR E 2023 model) but don't have the patience too.
GRIP X2 damper, FOX have moved away from
their previous VVC system (Variable Valve Control) for
the compression adjuster, which was only introduced a
few years ago with the GRIP2 damper
The Variable Valve Control in the compression stage
primarily influences the high-speed setting. VVC uses a
leaf spring which presses against an ovalized track on a
cover at the top of the shim stack. As you turn the HSC
knob, the spring rotates from the widest to the
narrowest part of the oval, increasing the spring rate in
the process, leading to a progressive increase ir
damping force without a corresponding increase in
breakaway force. In theory, this allows you to increase
big-hit resistance without losing sensitivity, offering a
wider range of adjustment with only 7 shims in the
stack, without the need to open up the fork to replace
shims.
Furthermore, FOX updated the base valve through
which the piston rod displaces the oil - this has grown
from 20 mm to 24 mm in diameter. This allows the
actual shims to regulate the oil flow better, and thus to
increase adjustability. FOX still rely on the VVC system
for the rebound damping, however.
The new 2025 FOX GRIP X2 damper allows for the
following adjustments:
Low-Speed Compression (LSC): 18 clicks
High-Speed Compression (HSC): 8 clicks
Low-Speed Rebound (LSR): 16 clicks
High-Speed Rebound (HSR): 8 clicks
Of course, you can still add volume spacers to the
positive air chamber, and FOX also retained the bleed
ports on the back of the lowers, which allow you to
equalise the pressure inside the fork with atmospheric changes
Weird it has taken another brand so long to do reverse crown since Manitou have been doing it for like 20something years and the benifits have been touted for that long. Patent expirey or something?
i am sure that the manitou patent ran out
I still have my first Fox Float 100 RLC I got in 2002. They are matt slate grey with black decals with blue text "Fox Forx" and the model name in red.
#quiz - It doesn't sound like that long ago - but it was 2001 when the Fox FORX Suspension Fork came out in Grey with Blue graphics. I'm going to say that Brian Lopes used them in the GT Factory team? (I think he won the 4X World Title on them?).
Great show 😊
Thank you 👍
To me, a fork is a fork, it goes up, it goes down. How fast, slow, harsh or soft or any of that doesn’t matter. As long as it works as a fork should, then this new trickery from fox is ok in my opinion
#quiz, the first ever fox fork had silver lowers/crown, and vanilla gold lowers
Prototyped year 2000
When will Fox offer a wireless dropper is the real question
Hmm when they make "a dropper" that works well and isn't done after a couple hours of use...
@@LaurentiusTriarius wait, is it a common issue? Never heard about that, most people just spend their time wankin to how light their dropper is
🤣😂
Also worth noting they changed the Fork bushing design, same diamiter and width as the old ones so backwards compatible but supposedy more sensitive and allows oil to flow better.
2007 E150 triple clamps that came on the Specialized Enduros. Super light, stiff and plush. We’re perfect for Whistler!
I believe the Fox RLC was a grey-silver color. I do know they came out in 2001 and were ridden by Brian Lopes.
Remember the 32 Vanilla R? I think that's around the same period? Fox were a real upgrade back in those days, they were the damper everyone wanted!
Hi guys, great show as always. With regards to the new Fox Dampers, personally I think they should sort out there assembly issues before anything else. The excess grease issue is widespread. If I didn't know about it I would have rejected my Fox 38s as they were shocking brand new, and I couldn't tune them at all. Once they were stripped and cleaned they are like butter, but this should not need to be done on a brand new £1000 fork!
Love all the shows and all presenters. Keep up the great work
Love Jeffers
Regarding cost for the updated Forbidden bike vs The Atherton bike from last week that I'm sure the "thoughts on pricing" thing was about:
The Forbidden bike isn't claiming to be affordable.
It's carbon.
Compare the build kits. The Forbidden's build kit is pretty good straight out of the gate.
I don't think people were complaining about "the pricing" per se. They were complaining about the attempts to normalize a $5000 USD bike as "affordable."
It's not. That word has never meant whatever a $5000 bike is. It might be an awesome bike very much worthy of that $5000 price tag but it's not "affordable" and to participate in attempting to shift the mindset to view that $5000 price tag as "affordable" is irresponsible.
i am so glad that the new 32's come in black as well that gold is horrible
The fact they sell a lot proves they are doing something right but I don't use fox factory forks because they are too expensive and fragile, service intervals are ridiculous, they should work on that instead of removing features to save money in the name of user interest, I don't like that company, does it shows? 😂
The first fox fork was grey/white and blue decals
As with the recent launch of the Sram electronic transmission there is bound to be a certain amount of sales hype.
However, the Sram system from riders reports in use has gone down well.
Back to the Fox forks, since owning my Atherton AM.130 I've move from nil fork set up knowledge to being a suspension nerd and loving keeping the ride log details etc.
Fox 34 factory Grip2 at moment, seriously thinking to 'upgrade' to the new Factory Grip x ...34 or 36 that is the question.
Normally, shims control high speed damping and orfices/ needles do low speed damping. You're welcome.
First Fox forks were in grey/silver color with blue stickers and they come out in 2001
AI generate the arch shape? Bollocks. This is just a stress simulation software.
AI would generate a new fork and do your taxes on the side, call for your next dentist apointment. AI is something that can think for itself and not just follow a set of instructions.
We need Owen introducing a new weekly commentary, "It's time for another Interesting View with Steve Jones." 😀
From my armchair, what I've been reading and seeing in reviews is the Rock Shox unit is easier to adjust compared to an equivalent Fox. Also, Rock Shox Buttercups deal with the rough, small, juddering bumps with a bit more supple damping compared to Fox.
So it's an educated guess that Fox have decided to simplify adjustment/controls and add some supple bump damping into their 36.
Anyone else have the same thoughts?
Well, if i understand correctly, Fox is more "hardcore race" inspired whiel rockshox engineers a bit more for the public side, so it would make sense for RockShox to be the smoothest and most adjustable. Either way i like them both, i got a kashima DHX2 Factory Series recently and i love it, took me a while to get used to the agressive rebound but i'm really happy with it
I don't know if the new Fox dampers are marketing BS. I'm still trying to get my head around The high and low speed damping on the forks and shock. On Blake's old bike.
#quiz - Weren't they grey/silver with blue graphics?
my dream damper would have lots of range but be able to set 3 presets. My Grip 2 damper adjustability but open, medium, hard "memory" positions that I adjust and set.
This was in the online groups yes all the breakdowns of the GX2 to replace the Grip2 and the GX to replace fit 4, They have done a New VVC and FOX updated the base valve through
which the piston rod displaces the oil - this has grown
from 20 mm to 24 mm in diameter. This allows the
actual shims to regulate the oil flow better, and thus to
increase adjustability. FOX still rely on the VVC system
for the rebound damping, however.
The new 2025 FOX GRIP X2 damper allows for the
following adjustments:
Low-Speed Compression (LSC): 18 clicks
High-Speed Compression (HSC): 8 clicks
Low-Speed Rebound (LSR): 16 clicks
High-Speed Rebound (HSR): 8 clicks
Of course, you can still add volume spacers to the
positive air chamber, and FOX also retained the bleed
ports on the back of the lowers, which allow you to
equalise the pressure inside the fork with atmospheric pressure
£80 for a bike tyre🤯🤯 wow! everything to do with this sport is a con.. Anyone who says most bike stuff is value for money has got more money than sense. Ridiculous prices now
Yeah, i'm still buyng 26" tyres for around 50 bucks a piece and it's not even the super good stuff, more like DH tacky pattern on a trail casing
First Fox forks have been in silver colour.
Fox forks used to be Grey
Quiz answer: white.
They were white . And came in flavor. "Vanilla"
Hmmm. I relly think that most people arent skilled enough to feel a riding difference between a performance and factory fork. Let alone the old damper and new damper.
Push HC97 FTW!
I like the new look. Now I’ll take out a loan against my home to buy one. Kidding. Maybe when my face heals completely from my oral jaw surgery I’ll buy one. Then I’ll be able to ride again.
Still a better design than Charger 3
Cash - ima 😬😅
Cash ima Bank- 0
😂
The frst Fox fork was in 2001 and was called f100 or f100x I believe!?
#quiz was that first fox fork white ?
2001, I think it was metal color, Aluminium or steel, not sure
The first Fox Forks were silver I think...
First colour would be grey or silver.
Oh man, I would love a damper deep dive! I'm in that camp where I would think I know something if I didn't know I don't!
Would be great to see terms like "compression rate of 1m/s" Related to real riding situations. Haha!
Fox first mountain bike shock was the ALPS-1 in 1991, it was Gold. Fitted to Cannondales. Then in 2001 they introduced the fox fork in a silver grey metalic colour ✌🏽
gray
#askgmbntech hi there, I have a shimano deore brake caliper that's been leaking oil and contaminating pads. I have a spare magura caliper ( cracked the lever body by over tightening the bolts ) that I'm thinking about using to replace. The question is, which brand fluid would be better, red shimano or blue magura? Cheers
Use peanut oil!
New gold colours with the kashima looks so cheap…. Like something you’d find on a kids bike
does AI knows what happes with mud¿?
The arse is now on the rear.....
Wait, it wasn't?!?!
Do the added shims increase the bounce over the boob bumps?😁
Didn't Fox consider muddy rides when they got Skynet to design the new forks? Or are they only designed for dry Californian rides? Not crappy muddy UK rides.
The challenge will be, as a result of AI, how to ensure that your product is unique and noticeable in a world where every single design will be optimised by AI, surely resulting in identical solutions and products.
Surely AI will only ever reach one solution to the parameters we tell it to process right?
Surely there is only one way to make something optimally and no two AI systems will arrive at different solutions, as there's only one correct way to do it?
The world is going to look very different in 100 years from now that's for sure.
It's a scary thought, but perhaps as AI learns shapes might change? AI could also learn what shapes are appealing in design and integrate that into the design. It's mad to think what the future will look like 🤖
@@gmbntech This isn't really 'AI', it is statistical modelling - feed in parameters and model the output. Granted that is what most AI tools do... but there is no LLM sitting at the back of this design.
Let's be honest, the "special" golden fork legs don't look that good...
I think the gold forks just look cheap, did they get kids to use spray cans from the local DIY store🤮🤮🤮🤮 Fox's next colour scheme ...bright pink? Or maybe they'll being back the dog 💩 brown back.
idk why but gold lowers just look dirty in my opinion
Yeah, they don't look great... What makes the kashima stand out is the shimy surface, wich is a horrible idea as sneezing near it would scratch it. It's just a way to make some noise with marketing anyways
Yeah - but the bad kinda dirty
She literally has nothing of value to say. Just “marketing BS” the whole time.
Those all Kashima forks are all about coulda not shoulda
Not a fan? 🤔
First!
🥇
Copying Manitou doesn't make it new , makes it copying .
Marketing bs 100%