I have a ps5 but recently purchased a series x and since I've played on series x in dolby vision I've been enjoying it more. No messing around with tone mapping just set it to dolby vision and it looks great
Series X will just set EVERYTHING to Dolby Vision if you do it in the Xbox settings? I figured movies with it would but i figured no one had it built in games or anything let alone say the menus. Can u explain to me? I’m about to set my Series X up this weekend
The Dolby v2 just means it’s using version 2 of Dolby vision which if I’m not mistaken is the recent one the v1 is the older one you can change which version you use . For Dolby vision only content
It’s because the PC is not on auto it’s outputting a specific peak brightness the tv dosnt understand. When you force 10,000 on the tv everything lines up. To fix this just have the pc setting to auto that way the tv and PC can talk to each other and make the right adjustments.
I just commented this but asked for it from factory and specifically w a Series X and then every other thing like UHD movies, Standard TV, and Dolby Vision settings from factory 😂
I must admit, at first i didnt like you. But when i viewed more videos of you, you are oke man! Nice video's and nice to see your deep love for correct HDR :)
Playing Apex I can’t change the gamma. Changing the colorimetry to BT2020 is a huge improvement for me on HLG. How you set video range or gamut is a preference. Huge huge improvement!
If you like it go for it, I would recommend you to instead leave the colorimetry on Auto and if you like the Saturated colors use Color Gamut Native saturation 50 warm 50 with HLG
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Apex is very washed and bland. It doesn’t look saturated to me. The colors are just popping. It looks more like the S95B before the update.
The solution for washed out colors is to lower the black level raised, try FINE TUNE DARK AREAS -16, if that's too much try -5. If you are not using VRR try instead Screen Brightness (black level) 46 and if that's too much try 49
Hello, I have been watching your channel for a while now and you are doing a super job. I would like to know if there is any general setting for PC HDR on OLED or do you have to calibrate always separately for each game because I wanna connect my PC to my 65B1 OLED. Have a nice day
If the content is trying to output 10000 and the display can't, tone mapping is necessary and either the game or the TV needs to do it, in this case the game sliders don't change the MaxCLL being 10000 so the TV has to tone map, and that's what is happening by selecting Mastering Peak 10000
Say you have the following scenario: a game like cyberpunk where maxing the slider does 2000 nits. Now say you did that, and set hdmi override to 2000 nits. Would that look better than setting in the in-game slider to 1000 nits and setting hdim override to 1000 nits? or should they look the same/similar?
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Got it. So on this 27GR95QE-B (that gives you zero control over tone mapping), the best I could do is match the in-game sliders to whatever tone curve the panel decides to use, even if it's not maxing the in-game slider, right? That's all I can do? Example would be cyberpunk. The panel uses a 500 nit tone curve so i'd set 500 in game. (I assume 500 would be displayed at maxtml. Idk why it chooses a 500 curve). Hopefully I cna figure out some way to change the tone mapping curve it uses. Also, when you say cyberpunk tone mapping is messed up, why is that? Because maxcll still goes higher than the value you set?
Not always, watch my upcoming video about REVillage HDR. Sometimes, the Game Tone mapping is so bad that it's better for the display to clip the highlights and max out the ingame slider (REVillage video).
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Ok looking forward to the video. I'm not sure what is going on with the in-game sliders in resident evil games. I couldn't even get HDR to work correctly. even when i maxed the sliders and took a screenshot with wcg app, it was showing ony like 87 nits. So something is wonky with HDR on those games lol.
Hey plasma , I am playing it on hgig in pc lg c4 48 inches Should i also need to change the peak from auto to 10k? Apart from this the in game hdr is set to 790 nits after windows calibration And paper white to 200
It works for everything, that doesn't mean it's the best option. You need to know the MaxCLL of the content then make sure if you are going to use Tone mapping OFF that the Auto Mastering Peak is actually the same as MaxCLL (maximum peak brightness that the content is trying to output). To figure that out on the PS5 take a screenshot and open it on a Windows 11 PC with the HDR WCG image viewer app. The best option for gaming is HGIG but if the game MaxCLL is 10000 you can't use that.
HLG for non HDR supported games is great. For Native HDR games use HGIG if the game has sliders to adjust the peak brightness to 800 or the game supports system level calibration.
I don't see any difference. Can you make a comparison picture to picture side by side, please? By the way Ragnarok is coming. 55 minutes more then I can play and I can stream it!
I will try to do it side by side on the next one. The difference is that by default the clouds and sun aren't visible by default because the game is trying to output more than what the TV can show.
so I realized in some game I could not see the fog as I could on my va panel on the va there was a lot of nice looking fog on my c3 oled I did see almost no fog at all is that the thing ?
"Colorimetry" was what I believe you and another TH-camr said to change to BT 2020 in the past... You have it on auto now. Should Mastering Color be kept at "BT 2020d65" instead all the time Or only on certain games? Sorry just want little more clarification on when to change Colorimetry and Mastering Color (I'm on ps5)
Don't ever change it, I was just testing to see if it was making any difference, in this secret menu everything should be on Auto but in this case the game is trying to output 10000nits and the Mastering Peak isn't adjusting accordingly. Changing to BT2020 while on HDR makes no difference because the TV is already on BT2020 st2084, I showed that in the video
And I never recommended to force BT2020 on SDR, my recommendation for more saturated colors was to use Native color gamut instead of Auto, but I no longer like the overly saturated colors, I was used to my Plasma TV and using Native on SDR makes the OLED look similar to the Plasma, but I never use SDR on the OLED anyway
Is it possible for you to make a video configuring the TV from factory with an Xbox Series X as well as the regular non HD settings for normal tv and HD settings for 4K UHD movies and for Dolby Vision as well?
There is a HDR calibrator program on windows store. Calabrated using the app and now it even shows peek brightness as 800 nits. I only googled the c1 peek brightness. I think it said 800 nits now Just follow the forms and youtube says. just using rratings settings really.
The HDR calibration app only has an effect on Auto HDR supported games and some new HDR games like Gotham Knights, Plague Tale Requiem and Death Loop. Horizon Zero Dawn is trying to output 10000 nits no matter what you set on the HDR calibration app
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 10000 is uesless if you're not outputting DV. DTM On/Off can only go up to 4000 which TV then has to tone map down to what panel can actually display which is most commonly 800 nits on newer LG OLEDs.
This will work on the PS5 too, if a game is trying to output 10000 nits try Mastering Peak 10000 and use Tone mapping OFF. To know the MaxCLL information (what the game is trying to output) you need to take a screenshot on the PS5 and open it with a Windows 11 PC using the HDR WCG image viewer app
In this case it doesn't matter what device you are using, if it's a blue ray movie and you know the MaxCLL information just use Mastering Peak= MaxCLL and Tone mapping OFF
Love watching your videos! You should make a short list of popular games that are like this (10k nits). Haha if we do the work ourselves then we won't watch the videos 😁. I'd rather watch a video!
are these games really using the entire bt2020 color triangle? We know movies barely tap into it, but do games actually use 100% of it, and the best bt2020 tv is like 80% which is the a95k?
No, it's not necessary for all games, only for MaxCLL 10000 games like Horizon Zero Dawn. You need to know what the game or content is trying to output by taking a screenshot and opening it with the HDR WCG image viewer app.
You must spend more time trying to fix PC HDR, than playing games, when I upgraded to my C1 from my aging Plasma, I thought all these issues would be over with G-sync making it easier to dial in a games graphics settings and HDR giving me the best picture possible.
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 I want to work with you, need you to shoot a video for us. May i have the honor to work with you? Paid collab. May i know your contact email?
The peak brightness is max out out of the box and it is up to 800 nits on the LG C1, if you mean Full screen brightness or average brightness level then yes, on SDR you can get 400 nits full screen by Turning on Module HDR on the service menu, but I don't recommend it. Watch this and see if it helps you
Your videos make me want to pull my eyeballs out and play games in brail. Impossible for any layman to spend this type of energy "fixing" their games. Kudos and good video, but I think you only prove how awful HDR is in gaming.
No matter what the content is you need to know first the MaxCLL to make a decision about Settings, movies usually do 1000 or 4000, also most HDR movies are DCI P3.
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the joys of pc hdr gaming
4 months trying to make HZD HDR look good
I have a ps5 but recently purchased a series x and since I've played on series x in dolby vision I've been enjoying it more. No messing around with tone mapping just set it to dolby vision and it looks great
Series X will just set EVERYTHING to Dolby Vision if you do it in the Xbox settings? I figured movies with it would but i figured no one had it built in games or anything let alone say the menus. Can u explain to me? I’m about to set my Series X up this weekend
That might be true if all games supported Dolby Vision natively, but most do not..
Everything looks way too yellow with dolby vision
@@Chapperinothen set colour temp to warm 1
Agreed, dolby vision looks perfect with 0 tweaking..
The Dolby v2 just means it’s using version 2 of Dolby vision which if I’m not mistaken is the recent one the v1 is the older one you can change which version you use . For Dolby vision only content
Thanks!
It’s because the PC is not on auto it’s outputting a specific peak brightness the tv dosnt understand. When you force 10,000 on the tv everything lines up. To fix this just have the pc setting to auto that way the tv and PC can talk to each other and make the right adjustments.
Unfortunately, the PC and TV don't talk to each other no matter what , and Auto goes to null, which defaults to 4000
Can you just make 1 video of your updated gaming settings from start to finish? Including tv settings and gaming settings. That would be awesome
I will
I just commented this but asked for it from factory and specifically w a Series X and then every other thing like UHD movies, Standard TV, and Dolby Vision settings from factory 😂
@@plasmatvforgaming9648is that out yet? i hadn’t seen your reply to his before i sent my comment
These LGO have many secrets glad a have one now 😁
I must admit, at first i didnt like you. But when i viewed more videos of you, you are oke man! Nice video's and nice to see your deep love for correct HDR :)
Don’t worry I’ve liked you since the start 😂
will you do a summarize video or comparison with other tips and which one you prefer ?
Sure I will, I'm waiting until I stop discovering things, I have a huge improvement for HDR brightness for dark HGIG games coming
Playing Apex I can’t change the gamma. Changing the colorimetry to BT2020 is a huge improvement for me on HLG. How you set video range or gamut is a preference. Huge huge improvement!
If you like it go for it, I would recommend you to instead leave the colorimetry on Auto and if you like the Saturated colors use Color Gamut Native saturation 50 warm 50 with HLG
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Apex is very washed and bland. It doesn’t look saturated to me. The colors are just popping. It looks more like the S95B before the update.
The solution for washed out colors is to lower the black level raised, try FINE TUNE DARK AREAS -16, if that's too much try -5. If you are not using VRR try instead Screen Brightness (black level) 46 and if that's too much try 49
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 I understand that. I’ve tried everything with Apex. This is perfect. Thanks!
for me BT2020 doesn’t basically nothing, is it only going to improve gaming?
Hello, I have been watching your channel for a while now and you are doing a super job. I would like to know if there is any general setting for PC HDR on OLED or do you have to calibrate always separately for each game because I wanna connect my PC to my 65B1 OLED. Have a nice day
Yes, here it is th-cam.com/video/VFpjph2Nlns/w-d-xo.html
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 oo nice and Color Profile seeting you have too movie yt how set this Color Profile by PC?
The Windows 11 HDR calibration app creates a color profile. It only works in supported games though, the trick I shared works for everything
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 so I dont need set color profile hdr ?
No
Nice video, i dont have hdr tone mapping below auto dynamic contrast like you have on my c1, and reason why??
I have no idea why.
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I don't understand why HDR10 works like this. Anything actually properly mastered at this many nits looks worse on anything that cannot display it...
If the content is trying to output 10000 and the display can't, tone mapping is necessary and either the game or the TV needs to do it, in this case the game sliders don't change the MaxCLL being 10000 so the TV has to tone map, and that's what is happening by selecting Mastering Peak 10000
Great video. How do u get your internet browser to look like that?
I shared that here
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@@plasmatvforgaming9648 thnks king!
Say you have the following scenario: a game like cyberpunk where maxing the slider does 2000 nits. Now say you did that, and set hdmi override to 2000 nits. Would that look better than setting in the in-game slider to 1000 nits and setting hdim override to 1000 nits? or should they look the same/similar?
2000 looks better, limiting the ingame slider is tone mapping on the game (which is messed up) plus tone mapping on TV.
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Got it. So on this 27GR95QE-B (that gives you zero control over tone mapping), the best I could do is match the in-game sliders to whatever tone curve the panel decides to use, even if it's not maxing the in-game slider, right? That's all I can do? Example would be cyberpunk. The panel uses a 500 nit tone curve so i'd set 500 in game. (I assume 500 would be displayed at maxtml. Idk why it chooses a 500 curve). Hopefully I cna figure out some way to change the tone mapping curve it uses.
Also, when you say cyberpunk tone mapping is messed up, why is that? Because maxcll still goes higher than the value you set?
Not always, watch my upcoming video about REVillage HDR. Sometimes, the Game Tone mapping is so bad that it's better for the display to clip the highlights and max out the ingame slider (REVillage video).
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Ok looking forward to the video. I'm not sure what is going on with the in-game sliders in resident evil games. I couldn't even get HDR to work correctly. even when i maxed the sliders and took a screenshot with wcg app, it was showing ony like 87 nits. So something is wonky with HDR on those games lol.
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Just curious, what exactly about cyberpunk's tone mapping is bad?
Hey brotha I really appreciate your videos!! You help me get everything out of my LG c1!! I was just wondering... what is your PS5HDR settings
I don't have a PS5 but the only thing you have to set on the PS5 is the System level calibration for games that support it. I'm on PC
Hey plasma ,
I am playing it on hgig in pc lg c4 48 inches
Should i also need to change the peak from auto to 10k?
Apart from this the in game hdr is set to 790 nits after windows calibration
And paper white to 200
The best for this game is to either use RTX HDR or force Win11 AutoHDR using the Leodedge app
I have a Lg Oled Evo C3 and I tried your settings but the result is completely different from yours, how is this possible?
Mastering Peak Maxcll work with Tone mapping OFF or Dynamic Tone Mapping.
It should be the same on the C3/G3
Have you played Disco Elysium? It has a slow paced story, but it's really good. The music and humor is also very good.
I will definitely give it a try, I'm playing Monkey Island now
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Lol, what a coincidence. I just downloaded Return to Monkey Island on Game Pass.
So would this work if I’m watching a 4K Blu-ray on the PS5?
Yes
Tanks again for the vídeo, i hope it works on my LG C1 55" with my PS5 games or only works for the Horizon Zero Dawn?
It works for everything, that doesn't mean it's the best option. You need to know the MaxCLL of the content then make sure if you are going to use Tone mapping OFF that the Auto Mastering Peak is actually the same as MaxCLL (maximum peak brightness that the content is trying to output). To figure that out on the PS5 take a screenshot and open it on a Windows 11 PC with the HDR WCG image viewer app.
The best option for gaming is HGIG but if the game MaxCLL is 10000 you can't use that.
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 ok, so it seems to be a little complicated, so i still use your other tutorial with HLG on Secret Menu
HLG for non HDR supported games is great. For Native HDR games use HGIG if the game has sliders to adjust the peak brightness to 800 or the game supports system level calibration.
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 OK, thanks again
I don't see any difference. Can you make a comparison picture to picture side by side, please? By the way Ragnarok is coming. 55 minutes more then I can play and I can stream it!
I will try to do it side by side on the next one. The difference is that by default the clouds and sun aren't visible by default because the game is trying to output more than what the TV can show.
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Alright thanks. :)
I may give this a go on my C1. Before I do, is there any risk of burn in by messing with that setting?
Not at all, that is just doing tone mapping at a different target
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 thanks pal. Appreciate it.
so I realized in some game I could not see the fog as I could on my va panel
on the va there was a lot of nice looking fog
on my c3 oled I did see almost no fog at all
is that the thing ?
Yes, it's called clipping
"Colorimetry" was what I believe you and another TH-camr said to change to BT 2020 in the past... You have it on auto now. Should Mastering Color be kept at "BT 2020d65" instead all the time Or only on certain games? Sorry just want little more clarification on when to change Colorimetry and Mastering Color (I'm on ps5)
Don't ever change it, I was just testing to see if it was making any difference, in this secret menu everything should be on Auto but in this case the game is trying to output 10000nits and the Mastering Peak isn't adjusting accordingly. Changing to BT2020 while on HDR makes no difference because the TV is already on BT2020 st2084, I showed that in the video
And I never recommended to force BT2020 on SDR, my recommendation for more saturated colors was to use Native color gamut instead of Auto, but I no longer like the overly saturated colors, I was used to my Plasma TV and using Native on SDR makes the OLED look similar to the Plasma, but I never use SDR on the OLED anyway
Is it possible for you to make a video configuring the TV from factory with an Xbox Series X as well as the regular non HD settings for normal tv and HD settings for 4K UHD movies and for Dolby Vision as well?
For regular content th-cam.com/video/c45Uc8ofqxY/w-d-xo.html
I don't have an Xbox, but if you watch more of my videos, I guarantee you will know for sure what I would use with an Xbox
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 okk il check out the channel!
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 same for the others?
Check the video I shared for movies
There is a HDR calibrator program on windows store. Calabrated using the app and now it even shows peek brightness as 800 nits. I only googled the c1 peek brightness. I think it said 800 nits now
Just follow the forms and youtube says.
just using rratings settings really.
The HDR calibration app only has an effect on Auto HDR supported games and some new HDR games like Gotham Knights, Plague Tale Requiem and Death Loop. Horizon Zero Dawn is trying to output 10000 nits no matter what you set on the HDR calibration app
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 10000 is uesless if you're not outputting DV. DTM On/Off can only go up to 4000 which TV then has to tone map down to what panel can actually display which is most commonly 800 nits on newer LG OLEDs.
U need to show things with c1 and playstation 5
This will work on the PS5 too, if a game is trying to output 10000 nits try Mastering Peak 10000 and use Tone mapping OFF. To know the MaxCLL information (what the game is trying to output) you need to take a screenshot on the PS5 and open it with a Windows 11 PC using the HDR WCG image viewer app
In this case it doesn't matter what device you are using, if it's a blue ray movie and you know the MaxCLL information just use Mastering Peak= MaxCLL and Tone mapping OFF
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 thank you
Love watching your videos! You should make a short list of popular games that are like this (10k nits). Haha if we do the work ourselves then we won't watch the videos 😁. I'd rather watch a video!
are these games really using the entire bt2020 color triangle?
We know movies barely tap into it, but do games actually use 100% of it, and the best bt2020 tv is like 80% which is the a95k?
I don't have an instrument to know for sure but I believe most HDR games don't have a single color outside rec709, let alone bt2020.
You can always change the color Gamut to Native and you might get some of those colors, it's not accurate but most HDR games are a mess anyway
And if so is it on all games?
No, it's not necessary for all games, only for MaxCLL 10000 games like Horizon Zero Dawn. You need to know what the game or content is trying to output by taking a screenshot and opening it with the HDR WCG image viewer app.
You must spend more time trying to fix PC HDR, than playing games, when I upgraded to my C1 from my aging Plasma, I thought all these issues would be over with G-sync making it easier to dial in a games graphics settings and HDR giving me the best picture possible.
Sometimes no playing at all, just testing.
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Takes the fun out it sometimes, all knowledge learned is good knowledge, never hurts to expand the mind.
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 In that case, thanks for sharing your knowledge
Is it working on lg cx too?
It should, try it and let me know
How to collab with you?
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 I want to work with you, need you to shoot a video for us. May i have the honor to work with you? Paid collab. May i know your contact email?
Any advice to increase tv brightness in games ?
The peak brightness is max out out of the box and it is up to 800 nits on the LG C1, if you mean Full screen brightness or average brightness level then yes, on SDR you can get 400 nits full screen by Turning on Module HDR on the service menu, but I don't recommend it. Watch this and see if it helps you
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thing is you shouldnt eber touch that secret menu leave everything on auto to not mess up the source
You don't have to touch that secret menu, you can just play the game the way it comes if you don't mind the clipping
Are you Cuban? Your accent sounds pretty cuban.
Yes
Your videos make me want to pull my eyeballs out and play games in brail. Impossible for any layman to spend this type of energy "fixing" their games. Kudos and good video, but I think you only prove how awful HDR is in gaming.
If you want a set and forget settings that work for every game on PC th-cam.com/video/NBQnZbXTjVc/w-d-xo.html
Very nice. I'm getting 45 fps on average in this game. With BFI on it should look at least like 90 fps then.
BFI doesn’t work at 45fps on LG OLED. Only 50, 60, 100, and 120.
@@bryangosling629 aha, good to know 👍
not a good setting for videos or movies kills the colors
No matter what the content is you need to know first the MaxCLL to make a decision about Settings, movies usually do 1000 or 4000, also most HDR movies are DCI P3.
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 thats why its left on auto. to much of a pain for little gain
Don't worry about it, you don't have to touch this secret menu ever, unless you want to fix an example like I showed in this video