Moral of the story: If you're going to insist someone use your logo on their products, give them all the assets to do so, don't make them guess at anything.
I'm probably too young to know this for sure, but I bet industry standards at the time weren't at the point yet where you could just "share" your 3D model with anyone. I have different engineering experience, but whenever you have to deal with old PLCs or legacy hardware at work, it's usually a nightmare to even interface with it -- let alone modify it. Every company had their own proprietary HMIs (and i mean everything from language, software, connectors, to even comm protocols -- since the serial port was already an attempt at standardizing communication, if you can believe that).
gordon ramsay: what's so fucking complicated!?! 8:04 you've cut through it you thick fuck. 9:29 get that fuckin donkey outta theeere 12:06 look at the mess!!
That really does give Conker's "Stupid logo!" line new meaning, knowing all the rules in place (and likely difficulties nailing down the details with Nintendo). Possibly Rare subtly venting...
The fact that some companies bothered with making their own 3D models instead of just using an image despite Nintendo not providing proper assets really shows that they cared about their games. The logo only shows for a few seconds but somebody had to sit down to model and program it in there
Worth mentioning: Originally OOT got it _completely_ wrong (red and blue on top, green and red on bottom, red faces opposite each other), and they updated it in the later revisions of the game to match the other logos in use. It didn't even match the logo on the front of the console!
The documentation from Nintendo you showed mentioned that developers could contact Nintendo to get an Alias file of the logo. (Alias being a 3D modeling package from back then) I dunno if maybe it did not have colors and it had only geometry data, but they could get access to a model it sounds like.
Yeah, that's true. It was the GameCube's start up, similar to the PS2, the Xbox Original and the Xbox 360 just to name a few. At least it made it easier for developers.
You'd have thought it was some obscure trademark reason that didn't allow them to use the real logo. But it was just Nintendo not providing enough info.
I'm very glad this topic got a second video. I felt the first was lacking in background and explanation, and this one did a good job of both clearing up the confusion around the first video and expanding upon its topic in a more comprehensive manner. Good job.
Just for the fun of it I had to try creating a 3D version of the logo myself while watching this. And it was really easy to get it right. I don't know why so many artists failed there :D
Honestly I feel like a video like this should not have my interest, but it's just so well done. It was a joy to watch from beginning to end and stroked my curiosity
1:27 I'm nitpicking here, but wouldn't DK64 & Diddy Kong Racing be considered 2nd-party games because they were developed by Rareware, not Nintendo? The way I always thought of it was: 1st party games are ones developed AND published by Nintendo, 2nd party games would be games published by Nintendo, but under another developer (Rareware, HAL, etc) & 3rd party games would be developed & published by a different studio.
The entire story of Conker's Bad Fur Day is a metaphor for Rare's frustration with Nintendo's game design decisions. They felt the entire concept of a collectathon was a bad idea (ironic considering that Rare made the best collectathons). Which is why Conker's Bad Fur Day is a game about collecting money which you never use resulting in Conker getting everything anyone could ever want, but losing everything he wanted. It culminates in a completely empty and soundless black screen followed by a really morose credits roll to say to the audience, "Congratulations, you collected everything in a video game. Here's what you get: nothing." So, starting the game by demonstrating the frustration and hatred they've built up for the logo over the years of using it is pretty hilarious.
I guess it's just hard to wrap one's head around the lack of joined reds: The blue-faced Ns that have solid green on top have a green-red split on bottom, and the green-faced Ns that have solid blue on bottom have a red-blue split on top?!
@@groszak1 I assume the N64 has a pseudorandom number generator. If not, you could base it on the save data. It wouldn't be random, but it could be different every time.
@@Monody512 PRNGs need a seed, or they'll return the same sequence every time. I know there is an obscure seed source in the NES PPU, for which I made a tech demo called "Pretendo". But I don't know if there's one in the N64 RSP (shader) or RDP (triangle filler).
@@DamianYerrick Alright, then the second method I mentioned above should work. Every time the game is booted, read a value in the save data, display a logo variant based on that, then write the value incremented by one. As long as the battery doesn't die and nobody takes the time to write down the whole sequence of likely at least 256 logos, it'd appear random.
@@lepidotos which funnily enough is also redundant most of the time. apostrophes for possession are so pointless in fact that a few well-renowned authors refused to use them. it's believed that the reason we have it is by a mistake: either that people assumed that it was a shortening of his (Reese his pieces, Reese's pieces) or that it marked an elision of an e that used to be there in some, but not all, genitive forms, and later got added to all of them for no reason. so really I'd argue we should never have an apostrophe-s. it'd make it a lot easier.
@@aislingoda6026 It's for names that end with the letter S so you know that there is a possessive S at the end of it, like for example Johannes's. I guess it's to preserve the name because it'd look weird with Johanneses.
@@F0nkyNinja Yeah, names are probably a good enough reason to keep the apostrophe, so you don't get confused on which part is the name 🤔 never thought about that
This vid made me go and model it for myself just to see if I could get it right. I can only assume they were crunching or the tools were shit to work with.
That logo was cool, but when I was a kid it always confused the fuck out of me, it almost looked like on of these wonky perspective stairs, you know the ones, where it intersects wrong yet does meet, an would be impossible to use in real life, if even build.
rotate to the left (counter-clockwise when viewed from the top) I have a problem with that sentence because it can not be both. When turning to the left and viewed from the top, the logo spin clockwise.
Honestly considering how many rules there were for 3d models of the N64 logo I'm shocked Rare got away with as much as they did. I imagine by Conker's Bad Fur Day they were just like "We made some of the best games on this system, we can do whatever we want." And Nintendo just gave up
So weird that Rare did the logo three different ways at three different times. I still think it looks best in B&K, where the red is balanced more with the blue.
The top gear rally 2 is pretty obvious I think, would have done exactly like that. In every side all three colors are shown in a rotating position equally to the rotation of the logo.
A Powerpuff game on the N64? Seems like it must've been made when the N64 was being phased out, because I swear Powerpuff came out in the early/mid 2000's and would've been on the Gamecube rather than the N64.
"in first party Nintendo games" *first references 2 games made by a 3rd party company* even if the logo is correct, it doesnt change who made the games and their assets.
Well, Rare were 2nd party at the time - iirc Nintendo owned a 49% stake in them - so they definitely weren't 3rd party. I do agree that it's a pretty silly mistake to make though, especially when Banjo and Conker have incorrect logos despite being also made by Rare.
The official logo only makes sense as a 2d image, not a 3d object. As a 2d image, all of the faces are neatly broken by color. There's not a single overlap where you have the same color, this is why the third slanted face is green instead of red, as if it was red, it would blend with the slanted face in front of it, which would have taken away from the cube illusion. To add to this, the green N and the green slanted face is broken up by both the red slanted face and the yellow square, which is also why the logo has four colors. If the original logo was designed to be 3d, they would have used an additional color color. Yellow being on the x-y plane, blue being on the y-z plane, and green being on the x-z plane, leaving red and the missing fifth color to be on the two orientations of the non-planar faces. Honestly, I think they should have swapped the red and yellow, have the base cube be RGB, then have the non-planar faces be yellow and either magenta or cyan; we only see two orientations of the non-planar faces, so the sixth color would be out. This would have prevented all of these issues, as each face orientation has a defined color, none of this red/green/blue nonsense on the slanted faces. Of the two colors for the fifth color, magenta would work better. The non-planar faces face two planes at once, all of them face the x-y plane, which in my example would be red, while one of the two faces the x-z plane, green, and the other faces the y-z plane, blue. In the RGB color space, red and green mix to be yellow, and red and blue mix to be magenta; we never see an orientation that would face x-y and y-z, so we would never see cyan. From a design perspective, this would work well for the 3d variant, and would also work for the 2d variant, and you could flawlessly create the 3d version from the 2d image; it also works well with color theory. The official logo only works in 2d, once you go to make a 3d variant, there's no clear model to follow, which causes confusion, and the theory of how the slanted faces are colored just does not work in 3d, while it works fine in 2d.
So for everyone who's confused as fuck. Here's a really simple formula on how to make the official N64 logo. Green face - Red on top. Blue on bottom. Blue face - Green on top. Red on bottom. The back face should be the same color as the front. About the right top side of the N and bottom left side of the N, you may ask. They are part of the back face of whatever is connected to, so should be the same color as the face it is connected to. Also the poles should all be yellow, including the bottom that's about it. My god, no wander Conker said it was a stupid logo. This is like Rocket Science or getting stuck on a error code on a script for hours until you realized you misspelled that code. No wander over a third of N64 games got the logo wrong. They should've just paste a picture of the logo instead as the startup, instead of a full 3d spinning N64 logo model if they're not sure about the coloring.
The bottom actually alternates between red and blue if you look closely at the N64DD, Majora's Mask, or even Banjo... If we are going to be as pedantic as this video is.
@SublimeHawk6 They provided instructions that any use of the N64 logo in games had to follow how it looks in the official artwork, but there was no reference model provided, so it was nearly impossible for the developers to get it right. A reference model would likely only take up a few kilobytes, they could have included it with the devkit software.
6:25 because it is a solid color and it looks strange and loses the 3d effect when you dont color it in a diferent color! Omho they needed another color to insides. On 9:46 it shows as if te N leg grows .
Moral of the story: If you're going to insist someone use your logo on their products, give them all the assets to do so, don't make them guess at anything.
^
Nintendo should've given each game the correct model
@@Knux5577
Yeah, mine was just a more general way to say it.
I'm probably too young to know this for sure, but I bet industry standards at the time weren't at the point yet where you could just "share" your 3D model with anyone.
I have different engineering experience, but whenever you have to deal with old PLCs or legacy hardware at work, it's usually a nightmare to even interface with it -- let alone modify it.
Every company had their own proprietary HMIs (and i mean everything from language, software, connectors, to even comm protocols -- since the serial port was already an attempt at standardizing communication, if you can believe that).
I mean a bunch of em couldn't even get "counterclockwise" right, js
Moral of the story: If you leave anything ambiguous, people WILL fuck it up because people are lazy and stupid.
This is one of the most complicated logos in gaming history.
Its so hard to guess which one was the original
gordon ramsay: what's so fucking complicated!?!
8:04 you've cut through it you thick fuck.
9:29 get that fuckin donkey outta theeere
12:06 look at the mess!!
That really does give Conker's "Stupid logo!" line new meaning, knowing all the rules in place (and likely difficulties nailing down the details with Nintendo). Possibly Rare subtly venting...
Rare likes venting a lot in their games
The entirety of Conker's Bad Fur Day is Rare venting about Nintendo.
Judging by how they got it right for Banjo-Tooie, Perfect Dark, and I think Diddy Kong Racing... it was definitely intentional for CBD.
The fact that some companies bothered with making their own 3D models instead of just using an image despite Nintendo not providing proper assets really shows that they cared about their games. The logo only shows for a few seconds but somebody had to sit down to model and program it in there
Its probably to keep everything consistent lol
@@bonkboi420 It's ironic how it backfired in the end
Worth mentioning: Originally OOT got it _completely_ wrong (red and blue on top, green and red on bottom, red faces opposite each other), and they updated it in the later revisions of the game to match the other logos in use. It didn't even match the logo on the front of the console!
The documentation from Nintendo you showed mentioned that developers could contact Nintendo to get an Alias file of the logo. (Alias being a 3D modeling package from back then) I dunno if maybe it did not have colors and it had only geometry data, but they could get access to a model it sounds like.
Wouldn't doubt that they charged for the model
I never knew that was so much confusion for the Nintendo 64 logo. It's not as simple as their other logos like the GameCube.
Yeah, that's true. It was the GameCube's start up, similar to the PS2, the Xbox Original and the Xbox 360 just to name a few. At least it made it easier for developers.
Wow that Tetrisphere logo looks soooo bad. They didnt even try xD
RikiZ8 it was actually a really fun game
I love how the GameCube just did away with this problem by having its own console start-up animation.
plot twist: Nintendo did this on purpose as a secret social experiment.
I'm pretty sure this topic could even end up in some random IQ test on internet.
Another video on this! So weird how complicated this logo is
Yeah I wonder what they were thinking
File it under: stuff I never noticed in my 23 years of owning an N64 until Snooplax told me.
This explains it much better than the other video
Man, how the hell did anyone not catch that error on Top Gear Rally 2? You can clearly see it in the game itself!
Wow I didnt even know it was deep like that with the different logos lol
You'd have thought it was some obscure trademark reason that didn't allow them to use the real logo. But it was just Nintendo not providing enough info.
not allowed to use their logo for an officially licensed game
allowed to produce a game that Nintendo puts on cartridge
yeah, that makes sense
@@HappyBeezerStudios Who knows, they could have licensed the games but not their logo. Trademark law is complicated.
@@Lovuschka Then why would they be able to use the picture of the logo, but not a model?
@@SenshiSunPower I have no clue.
The more I look at the thumbnail, the more my head hurts
please don’t use smooth shading on the N64 logo
I was bothered by this too lol
it gives it that "aged garbage" aesthetic lol
Well it's the look that those old games had, so I don't blame him
@@MrMoon-hy6pn the logo isn't meant to be shaded anyways
Rocking the Mario Party Jungle music... so good!
8:04) This video is making me wonder if the developer did this as a result of their frustration trying to create the damn thing lol
Snoop-L-A-X back at it again. Glad this is still going on!!
Tetrisphere doesn’t even have the faces right, I’m not talking about the color, I’m talking about how it’s modeled, it looks so wrong.
I'm very glad this topic got a second video. I felt the first was lacking in background and explanation, and this one did a good job of both clearing up the confusion around the first video and expanding upon its topic in a more comprehensive manner. Good job.
0:22 The “Miyamoto” comment cracked me up 😆
i never figured a weird shape would have so many inconsistencies across games
Loved the subtle reference to panenkoek. Did anyone else catch that?
I wonder why Nintendo didn't ship their logo with their dev kits.
The poor Lego game developer did what he could
The start of the video it sounded like Watch For Rolling Rocks .5 A Presses
Definitely inspired by it.
Now it makes sense *why* Conker saws it in half.
The most important questions actually is: What color is the bottom of the n64 logo?
The world may never know.
First vid I've seen and I already joined notification squad. Nice to see this kind of content!
Now I have to open my Nintendo 64 and see if there's anything wrong in there.
0:15
An A press is an A press, you can’t say it’s only a half
To answer that we need to talk about parallel universes.
Ok TJ *Henry* Yoshi
Just for the fun of it I had to try creating a 3D version of the logo myself while watching this. And it was really easy to get it right. I don't know why so many artists failed there :D
Probably the artists not wanting to put too much effort into recreating a logo Nintendo should've given the assets for to begin with.
Honestly I feel like a video like this should not have my interest, but it's just so well done. It was a joy to watch from beginning to end and stroked my curiosity
But first, we need to talk about parallel universes.
Ok seriously was the intro basically a rewording if that? Since it really sounded like it lol.
Yes, it was.
Never knew the N64 Logo was the most convoluted symbol imaginable, trying to figure this out is like a rubix cube.
1:27 I'm nitpicking here, but wouldn't DK64 & Diddy Kong Racing be considered 2nd-party games because they were developed by Rareware, not Nintendo? The way I always thought of it was: 1st party games are ones developed AND published by Nintendo, 2nd party games would be games published by Nintendo, but under another developer (Rareware, HAL, etc) & 3rd party games would be developed & published by a different studio.
The entire story of Conker's Bad Fur Day is a metaphor for Rare's frustration with Nintendo's game design decisions. They felt the entire concept of a collectathon was a bad idea (ironic considering that Rare made the best collectathons). Which is why Conker's Bad Fur Day is a game about collecting money which you never use resulting in Conker getting everything anyone could ever want, but losing everything he wanted. It culminates in a completely empty and soundless black screen followed by a really morose credits roll to say to the audience, "Congratulations, you collected everything in a video game. Here's what you get: nothing."
So, starting the game by demonstrating the frustration and hatred they've built up for the logo over the years of using it is pretty hilarious.
I guess it's just hard to wrap one's head around the lack of joined reds: The blue-faced Ns that have solid green on top have a green-red split on bottom, and the green-faced Ns that have solid blue on bottom have a red-blue split on top?!
If I made an N64 game, I'd be tempted to have the logo be a random one of these variants on each startup just to mess with anyone who noticed.
How would you randomize it in the first place?
@@groszak1 I assume the N64 has a pseudorandom number generator.
If not, you could base it on the save data. It wouldn't be random, but it could be different every time.
@@Monody512 PRNGs need a seed, or they'll return the same sequence every time. I know there is an obscure seed source in the NES PPU, for which I made a tech demo called "Pretendo". But I don't know if there's one in the N64 RSP (shader) or RDP (triangle filler).
@@DamianYerrick Alright, then the second method I mentioned above should work.
Every time the game is booted, read a value in the save data, display a logo variant based on that, then write the value incremented by one. As long as the battery doesn't die and nobody takes the time to write down the whole sequence of likely at least 256 logos, it'd appear random.
So this is why the switch logo is in black and white
Umm you mean red and white right?
well its kinda both
Can still be drawn in Binary.
i fucking died at the pannenkoek2012 refference once i realized what was going on xD love this, subbed!
1:20 Top Gear Rally 2's like "fuck you I'll use an entirely different color altogether"
I always assumed most of these logo screens in games were just a pre-made asset they add in.
It's minor but "logo's" doesn't need an apostrophe
Thanks I changed it
@@Snooplax not just "doesn't need", straight up shouldn't have-an apostrophe-s ending is the possessive form.
@@lepidotos which funnily enough is also redundant most of the time. apostrophes for possession are so pointless in fact that a few well-renowned authors refused to use them.
it's believed that the reason we have it is by a mistake: either that people assumed that it was a shortening of his (Reese his pieces, Reese's pieces) or that it marked an elision of an e that used to be there in some, but not all, genitive forms, and later got added to all of them for no reason.
so really I'd argue we should never have an apostrophe-s. it'd make it a lot easier.
@@aislingoda6026 It's for names that end with the letter S so you know that there is a possessive S at the end of it, like for example Johannes's. I guess it's to preserve the name because it'd look weird with Johanneses.
@@F0nkyNinja Yeah, names are probably a good enough reason to keep the apostrophe, so you don't get confused on which part is the name 🤔 never thought about that
This vid made me go and model it for myself just to see if I could get it right.
I can only assume they were crunching or the tools were shit to work with.
That logo was cool, but when I was a kid it always confused the fuck out of me, it almost looked like on of these wonky perspective stairs, you know the ones, where it intersects wrong yet does meet, an would be impossible to use in real life, if even build.
the all red bottom dose look better
makes it have better colorspread
Tetrisphere's logo makes me feel sick
I was kinda expecting it to be some sly anti-piracy thing
Though finding out it was just guess work due to a lack of info is amusing
Note: on the Wii virtual console, you don’t have to pause the game for too long, you just need to open the home menu and then exit it.
2:30 0.5 revolutions per second is 30rpm not 16 what
nintendon't math
I never noticed this at all in the games or packing lol.
The Aidyn Chronicles logo was spinning the wrong way too haha
This is the mandela effect, but actually real
3:20 The Dev Kit should come with an physical desktop model of it.
This logo is hellish to make.
Glad the GameCube went for something simpler.
rotate to the left (counter-clockwise when viewed from the top)
I have a problem with that sentence because it can not be both. When turning to the left and viewed from the top, the logo spin clockwise.
0:22 miyamoto call you a idiot
Honestly considering how many rules there were for 3d models of the N64 logo I'm shocked Rare got away with as much as they did. I imagine by Conker's Bad Fur Day they were just like "We made some of the best games on this system, we can do whatever we want." And Nintendo just gave up
the Donkey Kong 64 Kiosk Demo game (demo, not complete) uses green on the bottom instead of blue
Aidyn Chronicles also broke the rules by having the logo spin the wrong way
So weird that Rare did the logo three different ways at three different times. I still think it looks best in B&K, where the red is balanced more with the blue.
couldin't they just look at an official game with a 3d logo?
I'm gonna put most of the blame here on Nintendo. The 3d logo seems to be underspecified.
The top gear rally 2 is pretty obvious I think, would have done exactly like that. In every side all three colors are shown in a rotating position equally to the rotation of the logo.
Oh my god I just realized the entire first minute of this video is actually "watch for rolling rocks 0.5xA presses"
You should check the N64 logo in your channel logo. It shows the bottom colour as red also.
Why the fuck did you ask this question, now my brain has explode
Conker's Bad Fur Day's logo was batshit crazy.
A Powerpuff game on the N64? Seems like it must've been made when the N64 was being phased out, because I swear Powerpuff came out in the early/mid 2000's and would've been on the Gamecube rather than the N64.
the first episode came out in 1998, two years after the launch of the n64 in 1996
I wonder if it would of just been best for the logo to just be the normal vectors being shown as color, that way it'll have the same end result
Tetrisphere’s rule breaking is even more aggregious because Nintendo published it.
Why wasn't Nintendo offering an official 3D render of the logo?
Instead they made a complicated logo and just giving a picture.
I don't need sleep
I need answers
I had no idea there were even different models.
"in first party Nintendo games" *first references 2 games made by a 3rd party company* even if the logo is correct, it doesnt change who made the games and their assets.
Well, Rare were 2nd party at the time - iirc Nintendo owned a 49% stake in them - so they definitely weren't 3rd party.
I do agree that it's a pretty silly mistake to make though, especially when Banjo and Conker have incorrect logos despite being also made by Rare.
The official logo only makes sense as a 2d image, not a 3d object.
As a 2d image, all of the faces are neatly broken by color. There's not a single overlap where you have the same color, this is why the third slanted face is green instead of red, as if it was red, it would blend with the slanted face in front of it, which would have taken away from the cube illusion. To add to this, the green N and the green slanted face is broken up by both the red slanted face and the yellow square, which is also why the logo has four colors.
If the original logo was designed to be 3d, they would have used an additional color color. Yellow being on the x-y plane, blue being on the y-z plane, and green being on the x-z plane, leaving red and the missing fifth color to be on the two orientations of the non-planar faces.
Honestly, I think they should have swapped the red and yellow, have the base cube be RGB, then have the non-planar faces be yellow and either magenta or cyan; we only see two orientations of the non-planar faces, so the sixth color would be out. This would have prevented all of these issues, as each face orientation has a defined color, none of this red/green/blue nonsense on the slanted faces.
Of the two colors for the fifth color, magenta would work better. The non-planar faces face two planes at once, all of them face the x-y plane, which in my example would be red, while one of the two faces the x-z plane, green, and the other faces the y-z plane, blue. In the RGB color space, red and green mix to be yellow, and red and blue mix to be magenta; we never see an orientation that would face x-y and y-z, so we would never see cyan.
From a design perspective, this would work well for the 3d variant, and would also work for the 2d variant, and you could flawlessly create the 3d version from the 2d image; it also works well with color theory. The official logo only works in 2d, once you go to make a 3d variant, there's no clear model to follow, which causes confusion, and the theory of how the slanted faces are colored just does not work in 3d, while it works fine in 2d.
nice pannenkoek reference in the beginning
Why is this what explodes my mind
5:18 Playstation 1 startup
Could you tell us more about the logo's dimensions?
At 2:08, what game showed the spinning Nintendo 64 logo if you left it paused for too long?
it wasn't a game it was the console itself.
Why does the thumbnail look like a Mandela effect video?
They made their sides red because red is the color aside form yellow that the logo lacks the most.
So for everyone who's confused as fuck. Here's a really simple formula on how to make the official N64 logo.
Green face - Red on top. Blue on bottom.
Blue face - Green on top. Red on bottom.
The back face should be the same color as the front. About the right top side of the N and bottom left side of the N, you may ask. They are part of the back face of whatever is connected to, so should be the same color as the face it is connected to. Also the poles should all be yellow, including the bottom that's about it.
My god, no wander Conker said it was a stupid logo. This is like Rocket Science or getting stuck on a error code on a script for hours until you realized you misspelled that code. No wander over a third of N64 games got the logo wrong. They should've just paste a picture of the logo instead as the startup, instead of a full 3d spinning N64 logo model if they're not sure about the coloring.
What happened to the n64 logo in monopoly?
Video appreciated!
Oh I just realized the N64 logo is shaped like the controller
I assume that Nintendo had blue because it contrasts with the green N.
Well this is interesting i never see it (because i play n64 games in emulator, my firts videogameconsole is the playstation 1).
It should show up in an emulator
@@circuit10 i mean i never put attention in this...my bad
2:03 Source?? Found nothing of this
The bottom actually alternates between red and blue if you look closely at the N64DD, Majora's Mask, or even Banjo... If we are going to be as pedantic as this video is.
Why couldn't Nintendo just provide a 3D model for the logo with the devkit software?
@SublimeHawk6 They provided instructions that any use of the N64 logo in games had to follow how it looks in the official artwork, but there was no reference model provided, so it was nearly impossible for the developers to get it right. A reference model would likely only take up a few kilobytes, they could have included it with the devkit software.
For anyone interested here is the page in the N64 SDK manual with game submission requirements n64devkit.square7.ch/info/submission/ntsc/01-02.html
6:25 because it is a solid color and it looks strange and loses the 3d effect when you dont color it in a diferent color! Omho they needed another color to insides.
On 9:46 it shows as if te N leg grows .
0:15
I get the reference