@@Jando_Fett im thinking the chair is on a rising platform from his basement ? or he climbs over the empty space in front of him but i dont see scuff marks so he must climb over with socks on or bare feet
You'll spend 10x what the sale will go for just to rebuild the fanbase, market to a new fanbase and bring it to LGS' and cons again. Year 3 of the rebuild and you MIGHT break even that year. Without the preorder and KS funds and stimulus checks, it would take a ton of personal capital or a hefty business loan. Interest rates are ridiculous right now. Though it makes for easy content, i would not suggest this business route.
I happen to agree with you, through comment section interactions with him he seems to not be bothered with managing a failed business because he has many years of running his own business. I do think you're absolutely right though buying the IP is the easy part, you need some way to gain a new fanbase because the existing one is PASSIONATE but small. And the most common way new players join is from other card games. If you're going to consider marketing to players/ skilled players your best bet is releasing reprints of older cards in a new starter deck and paying the winners of the large TCG events (that never got payed) to show good will. But if you want speculative buyers and a second hand market again you effectively have to start over. Redesign the cards (so it's harder for proxy companies to duplicate heck I can make convincing proxies with this design there is a reason the og pokemon border didn't stick around) make sure your first printings aren't made by an etsy sweatshop that will share the OG printing tile with a known proxy printing company, And if you somehow manage to make a second hand market again do a set that sells the rarest cards in a new foiling with new art so A they are once again available to the community and B it leaves the original prints with a value. TLDR there is a lot of work he has to do But since metazoo is asking for duplicate bids after revealing highest bids they are either nowhere near the amount of money they need or are getting much higher bids than they expected and want more.
@clarkecreates Legacy is already designed, it's a lot of reprints. It is unsure if it is printed yet though. I hope it's revived, but not by someone who will kill it or ruin their financial situation just as quick.
Thanks for the update! Interesting to hear that there are serious bidders out there. I hope whoever wins the bid, takes you up on your offer and brings you in. Good luck to you!
eBay has constant sales. Saw these videos three weeks ago. I have dove deep in my research and I’m taking the risk. Buying tons of 1st edition sealed product for dirt cheap. May go to zero but I love the art and the game mechanics. If anything good happens from a purchase price will double in a day. Buy the fear people high risk high reward could go to zero don’t care
@magicbanding1095 some of the artwork, like the Dragon of Encanto Falls, Mothman, and Loveland Frogman art nice in my opinion. Yes there are others that look like they are illustrated by kids with crayons, and the borders are loud and unnecessary, but there are some artworks I like.
Nick for President (of MetaZoo) 2024 (or the face of MetaZoo)! I'm so hopeful we'll see a revival of MetaZoo someday in the future. I've clung to my shiny cardboard, plushies, and skateboard decks for dear life since it's death and am itching to open new product lol. I've been lurking in the shadows of the community for so long that I'm starting to feel I want to do like a collection video someday haha. Nick gives me strength! 💪
Honestly can’t imagine a “pre established” although poorly ran company would sell the IP and physical product for 100k. Would think there’s people lined up to pay 100k for the chance to revive it but who knows. Seems like 100-300 total would be a cheap investment for people to attempt
I would reach out to the printing company's, who knows man they might just tell you what they have and if they'll sell it ect. I'm not surprised they're saying they have a bunch of offers. I think MZ is an absolute steal.
Nick its been interesting to see you go through this journey - I am esp interested from a business perspective. Hell I have never posted and I have been watching your bodybuilding videos for years and I'm sending this message in appreciation of all of the content and now this new potentially exciting move for you.
As someone who worked on the game itself. Look at cryptid nation 1 and the sets thay followed. It started off as such a shit game mechanicly that it required a whole network of people to understand and mantain the rulings. Those people are all gone. You also need very strong next level leadership to take this on.
The reason why Mike and the zoo got a bad wrap is because they did not communicate well and did not give proper respect and value to LGS and their core booster sets. If you become head of the business and the new zoo fails, you would not be in that situation because you do communicate well and aren’t in this for money. At the end of the day you can always tell a persons intent by what they do. Mike’s actions show this was more about the money. Your actions show that this is a passion and you want the idea to live. I hope you become part of zoo 2.0!
I don't think any store is going to carry Meta Zoo again. You probably have a small group of die hard fans that'll stay around, but your looking at a small print to order size fan base.
“Maybe a company has the resources that I don’t have…” is correct. This is why speculation is silly because it sounds like it’s going to be more expensive than 100K. I’ve been watching your channel for a while and I gotta say, you’re getting way ahead of yourself man, and honestly, it sounds like it’s not going to be you making this purchase, just based off of what you said…but good luck anyway. No disrespect ✌️ 🤓
none taken. Nothing has changed in regards to the cost though it still seems like it's going to go for very low. It's more about the time it would take me to even get to touching the ip. There's so much other shit to deal with immediately after purchase it's just too much for one person.
@@nicksstrengthandpokemon6353you know there are a ton of people that would help at a distance with anything they could, be it processing paperwork or reviewing numbers, calling places to facilitate product movement etc. feel free to hmu i’ll help any way i can 👍
i'd be into investing in metazoo but when your bankrupt they have no say who buys it when it comes down to it, they have no say the bank owns them. But my initial thoughts are how many bridges with distributors have they burned beyond repair and LCS. I just think sadly metazoo is dead no matter what happens seems like they really burned many bridges
As one of the few people who backed Metazoo on KS and followed Mike before the project, Metazoo was never an IP and the game isn't worth bringing back. Let it die
It quite literally was IP based on the definition and if other people wanna bring it back then who cares. Sounds like you were left carrying those KS bags. Stop being butthurt and let people enjoy shit.
@@Bruul619completely agree, it was a cash grab. There was never any real IP or fandom to it. Things like Pokemon and Yugioh succeed because there is a franchise and real game to be played. Metazoo was made to prey on those into the crypto space during the peak of collectibles/covid money
mike might have done a poor job but that doesn’t mean there isn’t lore published or a Very playable game. how did they host 4 towers and a cup if it wasn’t playable? that’s preposterous. best gameplay on the market.
Nick strength and pokemon should be changed to Nick strength and Metazoo 😂. Sorry but all these unknown rumored or people or bidding is just all too sketchy for me. Gg and goodbye metazoo
Hey Nick, I always watch the channel, I like you and what you do, but I have a few pointers for ya: 1. Could you change the name of the channel to: Nick's Strength and MetaZoo 2. This isn't 2021, no one cares about MetaZoo, and without Rudy pumping it there's no way it'll ever succeed... do the research for yourself. 3. Umu, who you once mentioned you wanted to partner with even said many times before in his videos that MetaZoo has no intellectual property protections due to the fact that they are just using common fantasy characters. Yes, I know Disney created a multi billion dollar business this way by stealing already popular books and characters, but I highly doubt MetaZoo could replicate their success. 4. I don't know you personally, but you seem too nice to get into this kind of business. You have to have no soul like the Rudy's and Mike Waddell's of the world in order to even compete in this kind of business, let alone succeed. I mean look at Magic: The Gathering, they eventually sold to a soulless corporation known as Hasbro just to survive and thrive... if you could call it that. You really want to risk becoming evil just to own a crappy card game? 5. If I were you, I would just stick with TH-cam. It's essentially free money. You just sit in front of a camera, look pretty, and talk about whatever you want and get paid for it... why would you actually want to work for a living? 6. Your girlfriends brother can get a job without a license. Tell him to stop making excuses, and get a job. Maybe you can give him a job to help out with your channels... he needs to do something and stop making excuses.
Somehow you are wrong, but I understand why you feel that way. Surprising no matter how mismanaged this game was there manages to be a small niche community who truly does care for it, and truly miss this goofy little tcg
Metazoo stretched themselves too thin too fast. Too many exclusives, promos, special editions, skateboards, clothing, comic, it was just too much too quickly. If Metazoo does come back they need to create their own mythic/monster creatures instead of ripping from other stuff. Things unique to Metazoo.
In just 3 years MetaZoo created an absurd amount of products. MetaZoo is based on cryptids and folk lore that exists in this world. Then they drew it in a unique Pokemon style character design. If they didn't have real world inspiration it wouldn't be MetaZoo!
People thinking someone’s going to buy metazoo and restart the game are crazy. If someone buys it, the only thing they’ll do is take the existing inventory, sell it off, make a quick buck, and that’s it. Let’s be real people.
@Supersizeshake there's no recouping that money. Everyone and their mother has sealed product going for pennies. Purchasing more dead product won't amount to a quick flip.
@@tmxcomics I don't think they mean that they will make bank but places like Hill's Wholesale Gaming often buy remaining card inventory and then sell boxes for cheap (they bought out Decipher's warehouses after they went under, etc). This is why you could buy boxes of Harry Potter TCG, Score DBZ CCG, VS System, SWCCG and others from them for like $20-40 a booster box for years before stuff started creeping up around COVID.
@@stropes. too much work for even a small team. The margins are paper thin, especially with travel and storage costs. Besides that, you are trying to sell to a very small audience items they already have. Sealed boxes are abundant and are selling for 20-30 bucks in droves.
@@tmxcomics Sure, those are the same margins Hill's used to sell VS System at too and it's because they got it all for dirt cheap. Just depends on how much they can get it for at the end of the day and the asking price may be too high. For reference, I bought sets like Marvel Knights for $15 a booster box there years back.
Your passion for Metazoo is unmatched Nick. We're so lucky to have someone like you in the community
thanks bro
Argos a-gone-amous should buy it and refund us too
Has Argos not refunded people?
@@writerblocks9553 Argos got an early warning sold most of his stuff then ran while the price wus still ok?? That's what I think 🤔
asking again how you get behind that desk to sit in the chair
He’s actually stuck there
@@Jando_Fett im thinking the chair is on a rising platform from his basement ? or he climbs over the empty space in front of him but i dont see scuff marks so he must climb over with socks on or bare feet
lool I was thinking the exact same thing. He must have crawled under haha!
He actually showed during one of the livestreams that it's much more space behind the left side of desk and it's just camera angle.
Everytime Nick respawns its behind the desk in that chair
You'll spend 10x what the sale will go for just to rebuild the fanbase, market to a new fanbase and bring it to LGS' and cons again. Year 3 of the rebuild and you MIGHT break even that year. Without the preorder and KS funds and stimulus checks, it would take a ton of personal capital or a hefty business loan. Interest rates are ridiculous right now. Though it makes for easy content, i would not suggest this business route.
I happen to agree with you, through comment section interactions with him he seems to not be bothered with managing a failed business because he has many years of running his own business.
I do think you're absolutely right though buying the IP is the easy part, you need some way to gain a new fanbase because the existing one is PASSIONATE but small.
And the most common way new players join is from other card games.
If you're going to consider marketing to players/ skilled players your best bet is releasing reprints of older cards in a new starter deck and paying the winners of the large TCG events (that never got payed) to show good will. But if you want speculative buyers and a second hand market again you effectively have to start over. Redesign the cards (so it's harder for proxy companies to duplicate heck I can make convincing proxies with this design there is a reason the og pokemon border didn't stick around) make sure your first printings aren't made by an etsy sweatshop that will share the OG printing tile with a known proxy printing company,
And if you somehow manage to make a second hand market again do a set that sells the rarest cards in a new foiling with new art so A they are once again available to the community and B it leaves the original prints with a value.
TLDR there is a lot of work he has to do
But since metazoo is asking for duplicate bids after revealing highest bids they are either nowhere near the amount of money they need or are getting much higher bids than they expected and want more.
@clarkecreates Legacy is already designed, it's a lot of reprints. It is unsure if it is printed yet though. I hope it's revived, but not by someone who will kill it or ruin their financial situation just as quick.
year 10 break even
Thanks for the update! Interesting to hear that there are serious bidders out there.
I hope whoever wins the bid, takes you up on your offer and brings you in. Good luck to you!
eBay has constant sales. Saw these videos three weeks ago. I have dove deep in my research and I’m taking the risk. Buying tons of 1st edition sealed product for dirt cheap. May go to zero but I love the art and the game mechanics. If anything good happens from a purchase price will double in a day. Buy the fear people high risk high reward could go to zero don’t care
Been investing in crypto for six years. This shit don’t scare me and the upside could potentially be spectacular from here
I truly hope you are successful. I also have a lot of old metazoo product 😅
The art is bad.. my opinion
@magicbanding1095 some of the artwork, like the Dragon of Encanto Falls, Mothman, and Loveland Frogman art nice in my opinion. Yes there are others that look like they are illustrated by kids with crayons, and the borders are loud and unnecessary, but there are some artworks I like.
I encourage you to purchase things you enjoy but please don’t view cards as investments.
Hey babe new Nick video!
No matter who buys MetaZoo, one thing is clear: MetaZoo hire Nick and make him a VP!!
Happy to see that there are people with the money and the vision to know that metazoo is worth taking a chance on!
Nick for President (of MetaZoo) 2024 (or the face of MetaZoo)! I'm so hopeful we'll see a revival of MetaZoo someday in the future. I've clung to my shiny cardboard, plushies, and skateboard decks for dear life since it's death and am itching to open new product lol. I've been lurking in the shadows of the community for so long that I'm starting to feel I want to do like a collection video someday haha. Nick gives me strength! 💪
Somebody bring the zoo back to life, so I can start collecting again. Get the artists back and lets roll. Zoo 2.0 comin soon.
Surprised that there is a lot of people making offers on Metazoo Guess it is a good thing, just hope whoever buys it has good intentions.
I really want the SCP set to come out.
Me too.
I've been obsessed with the SCP stories for years. And I was so excited for a TCG set to be coming out.
saaaaaammmmeeee
Yokai island :’)
Rudy should buy it and give us all our money back 😂 thanks for keeping us updated man!
Rudy’s entire TH-cam existence has been pushing bad product on his audience for his monetary gain.
@@jlo2o199 that is absolutely not true lmfao.
@@blastingoff thats why they call em timmies cuz thats exactly what rudy chan has done
METAZOO 🎶 Magic is real 🎶
Magic is everywheeere 🎶
Bro.....I needed this video for the end of this work week. We need you to be the face of Metazoo. My friends in Louisiana are definitely behind you.
It feels like there may be light at the end of this tunnel after all.
Thank you for the update. Keep us posted.
Thanks for the info.👍
I am hopeful you have a chance to be involved in Metazoo you are so inspiring to all of us and I hope all your dreams come true
Pure
Just imagine got to pay for your screamer kits and legacy again? 😊.
Sounds like it’s going to be more expensive than Nick thought.
more like more of a headache. I have no idea what kind of number it will sell for, I just know they want at least 100k
Hopes and dreams are usually the most expensive acquisitions.
Honestly can’t imagine a “pre established” although poorly ran company would sell the IP and physical product for 100k. Would think there’s people lined up to pay 100k for the chance to revive it but who knows. Seems like 100-300 total would be a cheap investment for people to attempt
I would reach out to the printing company's, who knows man they might just tell you what they have and if they'll sell it ect. I'm not surprised they're saying they have a bunch of offers. I think MZ is an absolute steal.
You could always offer individually and then partner up afterwards
Would you say the inventory is worth it? Even though you can't give us specifics
I hope you get an opportunity to partner up with eventual buyer! Fingers crossed :)
Nick its been interesting to see you go through this journey - I am esp interested from a business perspective. Hell I have never posted and I have been watching your bodybuilding videos for years and I'm sending this message in appreciation of all of the content and now this new potentially exciting move for you.
Promos look great!!
NICK HERE WITH YOUR BANKRUPTCY NEWS
As someone who worked on the game itself. Look at cryptid nation 1 and the sets thay followed. It started off as such a shit game mechanicly that it required a whole network of people to understand and mantain the rulings. Those people are all gone. You also need very strong next level leadership to take this on.
The only youtuber that should buy it is Rudy. 😅😂
id like to own a share as well. maybe even become a distributor for my area.
So what did Mike want to talk to you about?
Regarding Topps Chrome, is there any chance that a second series is sitting out there ready to go to market once this is all done?
I've heard nothing else about it
@nicksstrengthandpokemon6353 fingers crossed, for either them to exist or for you to bring Metazoo back! Keep up the great work man 👍
Yeah, I wouldn't want to be the next Mike Waddel if I was them XD.
Didn't know how else to message you but today I got a letter from Pryor & Mandelup, L.L.P. its a "notice of bankruptcy case filling"
Same here came to post this same thing. Maybe we get our money back? What a miracle lol
You dont extend if you have a flood of offers. The deadline would have stuck. They are desperate
It'd be cool for the new sets to see the light of day, but that may just be wishful thinking😢
The reason why Mike and the zoo got a bad wrap is because they did not communicate well and did not give proper respect and value to LGS and their core booster sets.
If you become head of the business and the new zoo fails, you would not be in that situation because you do communicate well and aren’t in this for money.
At the end of the day you can always tell a persons intent by what they do. Mike’s actions show this was more about the money. Your actions show that this is a passion and you want the idea to live.
I hope you become part of zoo 2.0!
I hope it comes back somehow. Have so much Zoo sealed products.
Do you know for sure there are lots of offers or are they just saying that to get you to go up?
I found something out about the actual game part of metazoo recently
There is absolutely no way LGS are going to risk this game again. Such a massive waste of money imo
No worries LGS won't be around for metazoo 2.0 😢
I don't think any store is going to carry Meta Zoo again.
You probably have a small group of die hard fans that'll stay around, but your looking at a small print to order size fan base.
“Maybe a company has the resources that I don’t have…” is correct.
This is why speculation is silly because it sounds like it’s going to be more expensive than 100K.
I’ve been watching your channel for a while and I gotta say, you’re getting way ahead of yourself man, and honestly, it sounds like it’s not going to be you making this purchase, just based off of what you said…but good luck anyway.
No disrespect ✌️ 🤓
none taken. Nothing has changed in regards to the cost though it still seems like it's going to go for very low. It's more about the time it would take me to even get to touching the ip. There's so much other shit to deal with immediately after purchase it's just too much for one person.
@@nicksstrengthandpokemon6353you know there are a ton of people that would help at a distance with anything they could, be it processing paperwork or reviewing numbers, calling places to facilitate product movement etc. feel free to hmu i’ll help any way i can 👍
i'd be into investing in metazoo but when your bankrupt they have no say who buys it when it comes down to it, they have no say the bank owns them. But my initial thoughts are how many bridges with distributors have they burned beyond repair and LCS. I just think sadly metazoo is dead no matter what happens seems like they really burned many bridges
LGS will be bankrupt soon 😢
I love metazo...!
As one of the few people who backed Metazoo on KS and followed Mike before the project, Metazoo was never an IP and the game isn't worth bringing back. Let it die
This is just a fact. It was never a playable game
It quite literally was IP based on the definition and if other people wanna bring it back then who cares. Sounds like you were left carrying those KS bags. Stop being butthurt and let people enjoy shit.
@@Bruul619completely agree, it was a cash grab. There was never any real IP or fandom to it. Things like Pokemon and Yugioh succeed because there is a franchise and real game to be played. Metazoo was made to prey on those into the crypto space during the peak of collectibles/covid money
mike might have done a poor job but that doesn’t mean there isn’t lore published or a Very playable game. how did they host 4 towers and a cup if it wasn’t playable? that’s preposterous. best gameplay on the market.
@Jworry literally have so many fire cards now that it’s fell out. in love w my collection and still have a deck ready
Soo...still going to honor our presale items? 🤣😂 would really like my native streamer kit
Nick strength and pokemon should be changed to Nick strength and Metazoo 😂. Sorry but all these unknown rumored or people or bidding is just all too sketchy for me. Gg and goodbye metazoo
Hey Nick, I always watch the channel, I like you and what you do, but I have a few pointers for ya:
1. Could you change the name of the channel to: Nick's Strength and MetaZoo
2. This isn't 2021, no one cares about MetaZoo, and without Rudy pumping it there's no way it'll ever succeed... do the research for yourself.
3. Umu, who you once mentioned you wanted to partner with even said many times before in his videos that MetaZoo has no intellectual property protections due to the fact that they are just using common fantasy characters. Yes, I know Disney created a multi billion dollar business this way by stealing already popular books and characters, but I highly doubt MetaZoo could replicate their success.
4. I don't know you personally, but you seem too nice to get into this kind of business. You have to have no soul like the Rudy's and Mike Waddell's of the world in order to even compete in this kind of business, let alone succeed. I mean look at Magic: The Gathering, they eventually sold to a soulless corporation known as Hasbro just to survive and thrive... if you could call it that. You really want to risk becoming evil just to own a crappy card game?
5. If I were you, I would just stick with TH-cam. It's essentially free money. You just sit in front of a camera, look pretty, and talk about whatever you want and get paid for it... why would you actually want to work for a living?
6. Your girlfriends brother can get a job without a license. Tell him to stop making excuses, and get a job. Maybe you can give him a job to help out with your channels... he needs to do something and stop making excuses.
metazoo is dead dude, no one wants to buy it or collect it over pokemon. its like the wish version
Wrong
@@NoahCloud_SumZer0 ok buy up dude 🤣🤣🤣
false
Somehow you are wrong, but I understand why you feel that way. Surprising no matter how mismanaged this game was there manages to be a small niche community who truly does care for it, and truly miss this goofy little tcg
Would you like to buy my pokemon so I can buy more metazoo?
Metazoo stretched themselves too thin too fast. Too many exclusives, promos, special editions, skateboards, clothing, comic, it was just too much too quickly. If Metazoo does come back they need to create their own mythic/monster creatures instead of ripping from other stuff. Things unique to Metazoo.
In just 3 years MetaZoo created an absurd amount of products. MetaZoo is based on cryptids and folk lore that exists in this world. Then they drew it in a unique Pokemon style character design. If they didn't have real world inspiration it wouldn't be MetaZoo!
Your love for the game is not enough to get me back into it, sorry.
that's ok
It's like a toilet fire.
People thinking someone’s going to buy metazoo and restart the game are crazy. If someone buys it, the only thing they’ll do is take the existing inventory, sell it off, make a quick buck, and that’s it. Let’s be real people.
@Supersizeshake there's no recouping that money. Everyone and their mother has sealed product going for pennies. Purchasing more dead product won't amount to a quick flip.
@@tmxcomics I don't think they mean that they will make bank but places like Hill's Wholesale Gaming often buy remaining card inventory and then sell boxes for cheap (they bought out Decipher's warehouses after they went under, etc). This is why you could buy boxes of Harry Potter TCG, Score DBZ CCG, VS System, SWCCG and others from them for like $20-40 a booster box for years before stuff started creeping up around COVID.
@@stropes. too much work for even a small team. The margins are paper thin, especially with travel and storage costs. Besides that, you are trying to sell to a very small audience items they already have. Sealed boxes are abundant and are selling for 20-30 bucks in droves.
@@tmxcomics Sure, those are the same margins Hill's used to sell VS System at too and it's because they got it all for dirt cheap. Just depends on how much they can get it for at the end of the day and the asking price may be too high. For reference, I bought sets like Marvel Knights for $15 a booster box there years back.