The History of the Palantíri - Artifacts of Arda
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- The Palantíri of Tolkien's legendarium serve to drive character motivations and connections towards one another throughout the stories. Thank you all so much for watching, let me know your thoughts in the comments below! A big thanks to all the online artists whose visual works make this video possible!
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Men of the West aye dude I just would like to know just timeline around time when men became nazguls til like fall of arnor
Ok, that was a wonderful presentation on the Palantiri, but I have to think that -- at least once in a while -- they would be used for a kind of "prank call":
1st - contact another Palantir owner so they are seeing through your stone.
2nd - roll your stone down a bowling alley into the pins.
3rd - run behind the ball to keep the connection open, while their viewpoint is spinning madly around them
4th - call out cheesy taglines or puns, like "So, does that turn your world?" or "It's all about to come crashing down around you!"
5th - this will "magically" discover if they really do have a sense of humor... and a strong stomach.
Men of the West I have been subscribed since your first videos and the content never gets stale. I appreciate the way you connect with the audience as few youtubers do that. I really enjoy your channel and the middle earth content and I look forward to the new videos. So I thank you for making your channel kind of a home for us LOTR nerds. Keep up the great content man, I appreciate it.
Men of the West what would happen if you put on all twenty rings, two on each finger?
Nicholas Eickman you would go boom and be orc food
New Palantir, who dis?
I know it's like the Skype of middle earth
I can see the fellowship finding one and prank calling saruman while drinking ale and smoking pipe weed lol
( ring ring) saruman :who is it
(Fellowship laughing in background)
gandalf : ( girly voice) uhm hi is this saruman
Saruman: this he
Gandalf: umm I'm Shelly the girl you met last month in the pub...
Saruman: uh...
Gandalf: I got some news... I'm pregnant with your baby
Saruman: (hangs up)
Gandalf: (fellowship dying laughing) 🤣🤣🤣
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I remember back when you had to get off the palantir when someone in your house wanted to go online
Myrdred Deceiver 😂😂😂😂😂
Lol, I can see the fellowship finding a palantiri and prank calling saruman while drunk and high on ale and pipe weed
( ring ring) saruman :who is it
(Fellowship laughing in background)
gandalf : ( girly voice) uhm hi is this saruman
Saruman: this he
Gandalf: umm I'm Shelly the girl you met last month in the pub...
Saruman: uh...
Gandalf: I got some news... I'm pregnant with your baby
Saruman: (hangs up)
Gandalf: (fellowship dying laughing) 🤣🤣🤣
I thought the Palantiri were created by the elves to start a bowling league with men and dwarves. The dwarves won the first season and thus won the animosity of elvenkind ever after.
I don't care if it is a TH-cam comment. This. Is. Canon
Lolol. MARK IT ZERO DURIN!!
Hi I’m looking for the kid who can’t and doesn’t get this joke
This comment wins the Tolkien internet today. Love it.
"That which looks far away" = television, quite literally.
In a French comic book parody of the lord of the rings the Palantiris are literally TVs and can display TF1 a French channel :D
@@amapola629 So sauron controls the media?
@@alecmisra4964 Yes and he is actually former President Nicolas Sarkozy because it's a left-wing comic
They are round smartphones. And you need willpower to not get lost in the net.
Lol, I can see the fellowship finding a palantiri and prank calling saruman while drunk and high on ale and pipe weed
( ring ring) saruman :who is it
(Fellowship laughing in background)
gandalf : ( girly voice) uhm hi is this saruman
Saruman: this he
Gandalf: umm I'm Shelly the girl you met last month in the pub...
Saruman: uh...
Gandalf: I got some news... I'm pregnant with your baby
Saruman: (hangs up)
Gandalf: (fellowship dying laughing) 🤣🤣🤣
Shadow of War has overused the word "Palantíri" so much I can't stop hearing Celebrimbor saying it in my head.
One time I was trying to get information on a captain from a worm and Celebrimbor goes who leads the search for the palantia
Luckily Shadow of War is not canon, so if you are not planning to play it again, then watch LOTR movies or read books - that word is not used there very often :D
@@Mithrandir1983 Unnecessary dumb comment lol
@@OfficialRedTeamReview Unnecessary dumb response lol
@@Mithrandir1983 Awww, hurt your feelings
Can you do a character History of Eomer? He has always been one of my favorite characters and it's kind of hard to find good info on him.
1:55 MTG-Mirari. “It offers what you want, not what you need.” -Braids
Old times :’)
Came here to point this out; well done. I think it's an awesome use of the MTG art.
Hearing you talk about the needed willpower to use a Palantir reminded me of Aragorn vs. the Mouth of Sauron in Return of the King. They lock eyes, and the MoS looks away after a minute having lost the battle of wills. Could you do a video on Willpower and Magic in the Lord of the Rings?
To be fair, Aragorn was a Numenorian, meaning that he had elven blood on his veins.
@@KlavierMenn True, but the Mouth of Sauron is a Black Numenorean. It's somehow the same, but evil
"There is only one Lord of the Stones and he does not share pebbles!"
SonGara I laughed too loud at this shit while my gf was mid sentence into something I wasn’t paying attention to 😅
True
Lol I can see fellowship finding a palantiri and prank calling saruman drunk and high on ale and pipe weed
( ring ring) saruman :who is it
(Fellowship laughing in background)
gandalf : ( girly voice) uhm hi is this saruman
Saruman: this he
Gandalf: umm I'm Shelly the girl you met last month in the pub...
Saruman: uh...
Gandalf: I got some news... I'm pregnant with your baby
Saruman: (hangs up)
Gandalf: (fellowship dying laughing) 🤣🤣🤣
Pippin: oh look a bouncy ball!
Sauron: Rawr
Gandalf: FOOL OF A TOOK!
Pippin: Dude that was trippy af
Sauron wanted his shiny ball back, only that, understand Hobbit? SAY ONLY THAT!
Lol, I can see the fellowship finding a palantiri and prank calling saruman while drunk and high on ale and pipe weed
( ring ring) saruman :who is it
(Fellowship laughing in background)
gandalf : ( girly voice) uhm hi is this saruman
Saruman: this he
Gandalf: umm I'm Shelly the girl you met last month in the pub...
Saruman: uh...
Gandalf: I got some news... I'm pregnant with your baby
Saruman: (hangs up)
Gandalf: (fellowship dying laughing) 🤣🤣🤣
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I really enjoyed this video, I've actually been waiting for it. The rock of Anor caught my attention because of the fact that it's damaged by the fire easily despite being almost indestructible. Plus, I'm wandering if it'd be likely to find the missing Palantiri using the other ones. Palantiri are, without any doubt, fascinating artefacts.
The damage is not so much physical as it is metaphysical- Denethor exerted so much of his power of will into the stone he permanently set it to 11 and bricked it.
I guess you learn something new everyday. I never knew that Gildor and company were returning from the tower Hills palantir
stevemonkey6666 Same here! That blew my mind when I saw that!
Another great video and I think I've enjoyed nearly all of them so far. The Palantiri are certainly intriguing! At their base, they're a Tolkienesque crystal ball of sorts and they have some key functions in Lord of the Rings. I had forgotten that some of the stones had essentially less capability and glad that you highlighted that.
To me, the neatest illustrations of the seeing stones always surrounds how characters interact with them. They're the key to the Saruman-Sauron semi-alliance and it seems clear to me that they must've communicated before Saruman's forces attacked Rohan in earnest. Pippin surreptitious use of one really drives the plot. It's also interesting that it just had to be Pippin! When he looks into it, Sauron thinks he's seeing the Ring bearer. Subsequently, he speeds up his plans and so Aragorn finds himself breaking away from the group and taking the Paths of the Dead.
The moment when Gandalf hands it to Aragorn, with some warnings of course, it is one of the many "Arthurian" moments of LotR. Aragorn's use is the most interesting to me. He simply does not immediately gaze into it. He changes into what must've been more "kingly" attire, retires to a place by himself, and reveals the stone. It was a struggle but eventually, he wrenches control of it from Sauron and so sees his plans. It's one of the times where Aragorn, through his actions, marks himself as a very special character and the best among men.
Denethor has also been using one and we don't seem to know as much about what he saw but it seems clear that Sauron's been manipulating him for quite some time. Sauron allowed Denethor to see how ready Mordor was for war and who knows what Sauron was able to see. It culminates in a Denethor who, having already guessed who Aragorn really was years and years ago, also becomes hopeless in Gondor's chances in an all-out war. The Palantir at Minas Tirith helps make him into the worst possible leader Gondor could have.
Thanks for sharing and please keep these coming--very enjoyable and thought provoking!
Ending is perfect. Never thought of the stones as a comment on modern communication/war. Another reason why i subscribed! Keep going :)
Great video. Really wanted a in-depth discussion of the Palantiri. Thanks for the video and can't wait for the next video.
Currently listening to the Silmarillion as an audio book. It is so great that you have these videos to help get that full immersion. It really makes these characters and events really come alive and bee so real. Just listened to the story of Beren and Luthien so that video was super nice to listen to. Keep doing what you do. these are great vids.
I really enjoyed your this video and will be sharing it with my magical kin. Also truly appreciate your ending comments. It's a great comfort to hear that you have drawn wisdom and compassion from such an amazing and epic story.
Do one on the ghost armies!! I'm curious to see you clarify things on that
There was more here than I knew before, having not read the Lost Tales. Thank you and keep up the good work!
I want to thank you for you work! I do really love Tolkiens world and it's nice to watch your content. Keep on that great work.
Sauron disliked this video :(
ricky simmons so did saruman
Now it's melkor, Ungoliant AND Sauron
ricky simmons, nope Sauron liked it, even he couldn't deny its awesomeness.
No, i liked that video
Dark Lord Sauron
Well, speak of the devil! (almost correct, actually.)
Hello Dear Mellon,
Love the new Videos on the Artifacts of Middle Earth!!!
And I Love to see More Like This!!!
Thanks Marion Baggins :)
1 - The initial poem makes me wonder if it was inspired by/derived from 'I Saw Three Ships'
2 - The Palantiri are likely a direct inspiration for Maerlyn's Rainbow in Dark Tower; I can also see them as a partial inspiration for Harry Potter's Mirror Of Erised, with the potential to become lost while gazing into it.
3 - I'd like to see a video by you about Denethor; While John Noble did a magnificent job, the film could not capture the character's complexity, particularly with how the varying degrees of Numenorean blood affected him, his sons and Aragorn.
Palantiri are based on the already abundant myths and legend about crystal balls.
Once more : for those ( like myself ), that are searching since years, all these explanations, concerning so many facts , and artifacts !!! Well done !!!
Great video as always! Keep up the amazing work!!
i enjoy your commentaries after the videos. they echo with hope for us in our time.
I also remember reading or hearing somewhere that the stone of osgilith could eavesdrop on the others
It's a Master Stone, so it controlled the Ithil,Anor and Orthanc stones.
Great video! Learned a lot and loved it! Thank you! Please do more like this!
I appreciate your commentary. I've always loved the palentieri (I know, spelled wrong, it's almost midnight lol) but your commentary brought them to life in a whole new way
This is one of the best from Yoystan
[Thule]. Sauron, fearful of falling again for lack of knowledge, obtained the Ithil stone and entered it resulting in unmatched knowledge--enlightenment. This bound him to the stone just as he had been bound to the one ring and the humanoid form he took before the Last Alliance defeated him. He thought this knowledge would give him enough control over the relatively ignorant being of Middle Earth to enslave them. As other authors during the early 20th century, Tolkien uses this and other motifs to warn against the occult movements, the ones largely responsible for the WW in their lust for knowledge and power, just as Sauron and Saurman were responsible for the War of the Ring.
Thanks so much for this video Yoystan some of my most favorite artifacts in the Legendarium are the Palantri Stones and I have quite a fascination with them my favorite Palantri stone is the Elendil one too! :)
Good stuff I just watched like 14 of your videos! Keep it up!
I love this channel, keep up the good work!
I love your quote at the end of the video. All so true, my friend.
Absolutely love your content mate, keep up the good work :)
Great job on the videos, keep up the good work! LoTR lore is so fascinating
Also, a video on Narsil/Andúril would be pretty interesting
Loving your research and presentation style. Keep up the good work!
Just found your channel it's really good and I've been binge watching your video
Fantastic. You're getting better at this lark.
Lore compilations are definitely my favorite videos.
It's weird hearing you use years in explaining this like it happened on earth at that time lol "in 2002 this happened" I'm just wondering why I wasn't there to partake in it.
Elric different ages for different folks
This is such awesome work!!! Keep it up man!
I really enjoyed your literature videos on the lord of the rings. Are you going to be doing more videos like them? And if so, what topics will they cover?
Can't wait for the next vid. Keep it up! 💗
Great video brother god bless keep it up this is my favorite channel
I would like to know more about the war of wrath
Awesome video. This is my favorite item in Tolkien's legendarium
Great vid. I'd like to make a suggestion for the little notes you put throughout your videos though. You should really put a black outline or a black drop shadow on them. Makes it far easier to read.
These ARDAfacts are awesome!
Amazing video and so detailed and in depth! Impressive! :)
Excellent. More, more, more. Please!
Great vid...I always wondered about the Palantiri and the others since Gandalf mentioned that they were not all accounted for
Really interesting, love these vids, keep it up!
Keep up these sweet videos, love them. Btw: has anyone else noticed that the fan art of minas morgul at 7:58 looks like a wizzard flipping you off?
thank you for all ya doing for tolkiens work all my love
another brilliant rendition sorry I'm late lol and thanks for the recommendations of some new reading material
I really love the idea of artifact videos, some of the objects were every bit as intriguing to me as the characters.....maybe the iron crown of the Great Enemy?
Fantasic video! I would love to see everything we know about what happens in the fourth age, espescially what isn't mentioned in the appendixs
good idea for a theory video... the Hobbits eventually assimilate with the men, the Dwarves, who knows?
Cant believe you just arose from nowhere and filled every LOTR cravings of mine
These are great! I listen to you and Arachir and his Lore videos. You should consider using music from the movies like he does. I feel like that adds a lot of depth. Cheers!
Great video once again.
Loved this video!
basically: middle earths SKYPE. XD awesome video, as always. i can really HEAR that you are TRULY passionate about this, as I am, which makes it SO much better! :D keep up the amazing work!
Another great reference book is the Complete Guide to Middle-Earth by Robert Foster, a revised version released after the release of the Silmarillion. I don't know if it is still in print, I've had mine for close to 40 years.
Pippin: Oh what's this let me look into it
Sauron: DODGE!!!
Sauron: This is NOT a toy, you teen!
Pippin: You heard Mr. Saruman!
Do a video on Anguirel and Anglachel (the swords made from a fallen meteorite one was used by Turin Turambar)
Saleh G fuck yeah
A video about Eol or Maeglin would be awesome! BTW Eol forged these swords.
Very very good and interesting!!!Cheers
Dude, I never knew how much I wanted to know this. Thanks
More magical artifacts!!!
I finally bought the silmarillion! Can't wait to read it!
Feanor is a truly enormous figure among the Noldor and the palantiri were his creations - trinkets made in his apprenticeship in the tutorship of the Valar. He stands, in my mind as one of Tolkien's changes in the thread of the song. What do you think? Feanor stands at the gate of science and magic.
Excellent videos, you should do videos on the races of elves, succession of kings of each elvin race, Númenorians and the Kings of Arnor and Gondor. Also you should do videos on the chieftains of the Dúnedain.
Love these videos!!!
Knowledge is power and knowing where your allies and enemies are and what they're thinking/doing is a huge advantage.
The exclusivity of the Palantiri to the elite of Middle Earth/Arda sadly underlines the notion that these were instruments of control and domination. After all, what would a powerful noble do with the power of seeing into his subject's thoughts and watching them from afar? And since there was a hierarchy amongst the stones, that notion is further underlined.
It's a crystal ball... sometimes able to see into the future, but really was for seeing far distances. Kind of like Skype or cell phones today.
Not necessarily "lording over" anyone. But a faster than signal networks to transmit messages quickly over long distances.
How one uses technology or fantasy-ology is what determines evilness... other than the one ring. That is pure evil since its essentially most of Sauron's twist evil doing spirit. The ring's a dick, and like a dick it can grow and shrink... and it betrayed Isildur, growing and falling off his finger, exposing his position to Orcs who quickly killed him. Some objects are people or beings stuck inside them. The one ring is one of them. So those objects are inherently evil as there's an evil person/being inside of it.
the stones had an internal mechanism that allowed only those with a right to use them. Hence unless deputised by the king someone would beed great strength to use it
@@SantomPh Also you can use shrouding technique to stop people from spying you using Palantir, how this was achieved no one know being long forgotten.
Another great video. thanks.
With Laptops, tablets or smartphones in conjunction with Skype and TH-cam today we have our own Palantírs. Even better when you think about it as ours have audio.
I bet Tolkien didn't see that coming! :-)
use skype its easier, ents and heavy lumps use trunk calls
or the ents could just use iCones...
Btw! You have officially (and already) joined the gang of my favorite TH-camrs! (Chris Stuckmann, HelloGreedo, The Flick Pick + Men of the West!)
AlternativeMovies Thank you, I am truly honoured! I really like Chris Stuckmann and The Flick Pick, they are fantastic reviewers!
'It takes an iron will to use a palantir."
"Fool of a Took!"
That probably says a lot about Hobbits.
You don't need an iron will just to use it , like any automated tool the work is done the moment you "boot up".
You do need an Iron Will to wrest full control of it from a domineering mind like Sauron who can probe you mercilessly. Luckily he ran into Pippin rather than Gandalf, so Sauron got nothing of value. Denethor never lost control of the Anor Stone for the same reason, he has an iron will and is also the rightful user as the Ruling Steward.
Nice work dude thanks
The Tolkien companion and unfinished tales are now on my list to read
Hold up, 9:46, this is only in the movie that Saruman shows the Palantir to Gandalf in the Fellowship of the Ring. Am I wrong? In the books it is a pretty big "A-ha!" moment for Gandalf when Wormtongue chucks the Palantir, and Gandalf finally comprehends the connection that had existed between Orthanc and Barad-Dur. Yoystan, you are the undisputed man, and do such great work! If I didn't love the heck out of these videos I wouldn't bother commenting and bringing this up.
These are great videos you do on LOTR, very detailed and informative stuff. Any chance you would consider doing a character history for Celebrimbor? As a more "casual" fan of LOTR who has only read the main trilogy (and The Hobbit many years ago) but none of the other accompanying texts like the Silmarillion, it would be really interesting to see you work your magic on a video that shows how Celebrimbor's background in the original lore differs from his story in the Shadow of Mordor/War games. But perhaps there's not enough info on that character to justify dedicating a full video to him.
Hey, could you do a theory about if Saruman's Uruk-Hai reached the Fellowship a little earlier and managed to capture Frodo and bring the One Ring back to Saruman?
Tathem Relag Saruman would have kept the ring for himself and invaded the shire and stop Sauron
Props for using the Mirari ^^
I agree with you. Since the Elendil stone was not used for other than reflection by both elves and men, it was not corrupted. Thanks for the video. Blessings.
Another excellent video. We men of the West will overcome this present morass...
Please do more artifacts videos, this was great, maybe some legendary weapons or armor for the next vid?
Heh, one of those pictures was the Mirari from MTG, not a Palantir. Close enough looking I suppose.
Steve Ward I noticed that too
Oh cool haha yeah finding pictures for this video was tough. Close enough haha
I'm about 99% sure that WOTC and Hasbro have that image copyrighted
Noticed that as well. Had to check the comments :D
I also noticed that. I was gonna make a comment about it until I saw your comment.
thanks, another good video.
love your videos man but 2 mins in the photo shown is of the mirari from magic the gathering. its a magical wish granting object in the world of its name sake and has a tendency to inspire greedy dark thoughts and actions like the one ring from Tolkien's work keep on moving on love your videos just thought you might like to know.
i am encouraged by your concluding thoughts.i agree that we use insight and communication for power and Manipulation over others and that this world would be a better place if we could use it for reflection and Inspiration.i think These are themes that Tolkein does so well to present his Readers..one example is....the scouring of the Shire can draw many parallels to the industrial revolution
Wow, great video
Yoystan i was wondering when you would get to the great spiders perhaps somewhere around the upcoming scarefest that is next month
Joshua Mae Great question! I do some about them soon I promise. Next weekend will be an Epic Character History on Ungoliant and in the coming months I'll do a Giant Spiders of Middle-Earth video at some point. I'll also add that to my next Facebook poll to see if everyone wants that one or others sooner rather than later. Thank you for the support my friend!
Men of the West ☺ thank you and good luck at God speed
+Men of the West that would be awsome. Can u also do more on elves and feanor and the silmirls?
Vary informative good sir
have any more of these planned? this was awesome
I heard the word user so many times in a short amount of time it gave me PTSD from my Teamspeak days.
Great video